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Speaker 1: This is Danny Martinez and you're listening to the latest

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Speaker 1: episode of Fish Bites. We have an exciting one today.

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Speaker 1: We have our first guest that's going to be joining us.

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Speaker 1: You know, in the first episode and in the second episode,

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Speaker 1: I told you that I wanted us to have a

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Speaker 1: different type of podcast. Here, a fan of the voice

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Speaker 1: with the voice of the fans. This is something that's

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Speaker 1: exclusive really to Fish Bites. I still have not found

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Speaker 1: any other podcast that has this vision, and I'm excited

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Speaker 1: that we can put this vision into play. Starting today,

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Speaker 1: Tony Baldez is going to give us some really beautiful insight.

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Speaker 1: He's actually worked an intern with the Marlins before, but

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Speaker 1: he's a lifelong fan that grew up basically with the fish.

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Speaker 1: He was very young when the Marlins became an expansion organization.

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Speaker 1: He's gone through the highs, he's gone through the lows,

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna give us some really in depth insight

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Speaker 1: on what it is to be a fan and his perspective,

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Speaker 1: and that will be for today, his perspective, but for

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Speaker 1: the other five individuals on the list that have very

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Speaker 1: contacted me, For those of you that are listening that say,

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Speaker 1: you know, Danny sounds like a nice guy. I think

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Speaker 1: I could do this with him without any pressure. Let

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Speaker 1: me know. Let me know, because the same way that

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Speaker 1: Tony is gonna just sincerely bless your ears today with

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Speaker 1: some solid information, I want you all to have that

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Speaker 1: same opportunity. All right. We're of course also going to

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Speaker 1: look at pitching performances of the week, trending position players

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Speaker 1: of the week, and then two dialogue segments today, which

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Speaker 1: will be relatively quick because we have to get through

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Speaker 1: them before Tony calls. And the first one is something

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Speaker 1: that went by my time I'm a few weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: and it created a lot of conversation and I've decided

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Speaker 1: to put it onto the podcast to give you my impression.

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Speaker 1: It was the question of, you know, do you prefer

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Speaker 1: the hate and shade the Marlins are getting now or

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Speaker 1: the emptiness of the Laurier years, basically saying, do you

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Speaker 1: prefer any kind of attention even though it's been incredibly

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Speaker 1: negative and we'll talk about whether that's fair or not,

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Speaker 1: bit more baseball oriented. It's a question about the farm

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Speaker 1: system right and earning their stripes. Myself, Ethan and Ian

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Speaker 1: of the farm system, but this is more so MLB

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to give you my opinion on that.

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Speaker 1: We're going to start off with the pitching performance of

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Speaker 1: I am right now looking at my document in front

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Speaker 1: Pablo Lopez is my pitching performance of the week. But

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Speaker 1: I could see that Sandy is pitching eight scoreless innings

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Speaker 1: quick look at what Sandy is doing. So Pablo Lopez,

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Speaker 1: Sandy's the pitcher of the week, because I mean going

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Speaker 1: record in year two of a rebuild where sixty seventy

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Speaker 1: percent of the team will be different within a year. See,

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Speaker 1: leads to emotionless thoughts. I much rather you be very

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Speaker 1: not over when you argue frequently. It's over when you

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Speaker 1: no longer care that you argue frequently. If that spouse

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Speaker 1: launching and reaction of the rebranding that took place this

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Speaker 1: offseason with the ownership change. Tony. I'm really looking forward

432
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Speaker 1: to getting your perspective on that. But I actually want

433
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Speaker 1: to start off with two things. First, brother, thank you

434
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: for coming on. And second, you know, I want you

435
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: to take the floor and just tell me a little

436
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: bit about your Marlins fandom, how it all began, and

437
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 1: how it's changed over the years or grown over the years.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, like I would imagine, like a lot of

439
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: little kids growing up in Miami, we we didn't have

440
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 2: baseball when I was when I was younger, I'm thirty three,

441
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: So the ninety three season I was, I was five

442
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 2: or six years old. So I was at a very

443
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 2: interesting time in my youth where I was basically a

444
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: sponge for whatever caught my interest, and just so happened

445
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 2: at the same time I was playing baseball. You know,

446
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: Optimus Keeball, you know what you do. I have five

447
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 2: years old and all of a sudden, you know, we

448
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 2: get a major league franchise, and my parents took me

449
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: to a couple of the first games against the Dodgers

450
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 2: in ninety three, and from there it was it was

451
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: love at first sight basically, so I went from from

452
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: a fan back in ninety three all the way through

453
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 2: ninety seven, the downtrodden years of ninety eight and the

454
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: early two thousands into two thousand and three, so much

455
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:51,959
Speaker 2: so that I wanted to explore a career in sports

456
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,959
Speaker 2: and in Baseball League, which led to an internship with

457
00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 2: the team in twenty ten. You know, because everyone everyone

458
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: thinks that they want to work in sports and it's

459
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: a sexy job, and so that's kind of where I trended.

460
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 2: But I missed, honestly that I worked in the media

461
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: relations department, so I was up in the press box,

462
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 2: and I missed being a fan, like I missed being

463
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: able to cheer for the team. So my fandom really

464
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 2: has never died per se. It was muted for that

465
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: one season, and then I just missed being a fan

466
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: and I went back to to, you know, to being

467
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Speaker 2: a fan. So yeah, that's that's my that's my history

468
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Speaker 2: of being a Martin fan. It's been since since day one,

469
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 2: the ninety seventeen I was in fifth grade. It was

470
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Speaker 2: the first team I really actually fell in love with

471
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: when I was a kid. So, you know, ninety eight hurt,

472
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: not not as much as thousand and sixth day, but

473
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Speaker 2: THUTN six was a little bit better because of Handy

474
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: when the Rookie of the year and the promise that

475
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Speaker 2: that that that that that team showed at the time.

476
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,239
Speaker 2: So yeah, that night seventeen was the perfect amalgamation of

477
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: my age and my love for baseball and you know,

478
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 2: winning franchise.

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00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 1: That's awesome. So, I mean, you know it sounds it

480
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: sounds like you grew up with the team, right, I

481
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: mean you have yeah, you have that very It's not

482
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's common, but it's it's a very

483
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: beautiful story of being young and then having this expansion

484
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: franchise being built in your hometown with that and then

485
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 1: just being able to be raised with that club. Do

486
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: you think that? And you kind of hit it at

487
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: it a few times there that you went we went

488
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: through the different rebuilds, right, Like, while you're growing with

489
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: this team, while your life is changing, this team also

490
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: changes with you. You have very high highs, extremely low

491
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: lows that we know about when we're talking about then

492
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: this particular part of your fandom, right, So the changes

493
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: that have happened recently, which we don't have to highlight

494
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: because everyone and their mother knows what the changes have been. Right,

495
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Speaker 1: what is your perspective towards the changes? And I'll let

496
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: you take it wherever you'd like, whether it's on field,

497
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: off field. What is this particular path right now? Like

498
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Speaker 1: for you Tony the fan.

499
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 2: Well, like like I would imagine the majority of fans.

500
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: When when Jeffrey Laurier put the team up for sale,

501
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: I think it was three seasons ago before before last season,

502
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: I was excited because, you know, Jeffrey Laurier no being

503
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 2: you know, no, he just he just he just wasn't

504
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 2: a pleasant person like that. That and that or the

505
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: way the organization was going just there was no light

506
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: at the end of the tunnel and it was stagnant

507
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: like that since two thousand and three. We had the

508
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Speaker 2: good years of four and five, which we were fairly

509
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: competitive mm hm, and then we had the years I

510
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: think it was nine and tenty ten where we were hovering.

511
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: On five hundred and we had impressive field.

512
00:28:53,880 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly September collapse. But other than that that franchise

513
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: was just in a stagnant place of being ten fifteen

514
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: games under five hundred, you know, around you know, they

515
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: were the Dolphins syndrome, you know, not good enough, absolutely

516
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 2: good or right exactly and not bad enough to make

517
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: a difference. So this rebuild for me, or builds as

518
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: they're calling it, just feels different because they went all

519
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: in on it. They went you know, they they went

520
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: against I would imagine they went against their their better

521
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: notions of just blowing it up, knowing or maybe not

522
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 2: knowing the history of what US fans have been through

523
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: in this in this town and just going full board

524
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: with it, knowing that Lauria and Samson depleted the minor

525
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: league system a Maryland systm was horrendous, and you guys

526
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: talk about it all the time on the podcast, how

527
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: we were bottom one or two in terms of in

528
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: terms of our farm system and these guys come in

529
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: and just two seasons we're in we're in the mid teens.

530
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: And that's not even with any significant bats for any

531
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Speaker 2: significant I say significant person you know, as in terms

532
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: of young guys if we have money and we have isan,

533
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 2: but in terms of like the young nineteen and twenty

534
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: year olds on on the on the offensive side. So

535
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: this is this build up of our minor league system

536
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: was just with the pitching side. So there's this direction, there,

537
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: there's there's there's like I said, light at the end

538
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: of the tunnel. I think what destroyed the Francis and

539
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 2: I hate to bring this up was Hoda Fernandez passing

540
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: away MH and David Sampson has mentioned that a lot

541
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: as well on the Levator Show when he's when he's

542
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: when he guested on it, he said that Fernandez dying

543
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: through a wrench in all the plants, that's that's that

544
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: kind of led Gloria to foll On try to sell

545
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: the team, and he has tried to sell it before.

546
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: But you know, when I was there in twenty ten,

547
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: he said that that there was an offer made by

548
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: the Arisons that just never went anywhere. But I think

549
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: with holl they with Hoosey passing away, that was really

550
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: the pushing the pushing point for him. And you know,

551
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: like I said, this, this rebuild is is trending in

552
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: the right direction. Now, if Monte comes up and Isthon

553
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: come up and they don't perform, then we're we have

554
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: serious problems. But let those problems arise, right People People

555
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: are just assuming that because it's the Marlins, because they're real,

556
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: because they're rebuilding, it's just not going to work. People

557
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: aren't giving the organization and and Gary Dembo and their

558
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: juter to the benefit of the doubt, which they deserve,

559
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: because who are you to tell? Who are you to

560
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: say that? Then I let they don't do a good

561
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: job of doing this, you know what I mean?

562
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: Right right? Yeah, And I'll hit on a few things, Mata.

563
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: You're definitely not alone with the Lauria's situation. And and

564
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: you know we're not talking about his character or anything.

565
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't pretend to because I don't know. I don't

566
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:56,959
Speaker 1: know Jeffrey Laurier personally. But yeah, when when when it

567
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: was told or when it was first reported that he

568
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: was going to sell, I could tell you exactly where

569
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: I was. I was in Trinidad and Tobago because I

570
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: had he had, because my wife's come there and I

571
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: had just ended, I had just ended a visit there

572
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: and her and I were on like the tarmac about

573
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: to fly back Hope. When right before I lose service,

574
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: I see, I think it was either Forbes or maybe

575
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: it was the Herald put out a headline and that

576
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: was the headline, you know, Lauria selling the Marlins. And

577
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. I was so excited I had

578
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: to go on on Twitter and it wasn't again because

579
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: of Lauria. I mean, we could talk a lot about

580
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: Lauria and whether he was invested or not, and it

581
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: would all be speculation. But what we can definitely talk

582
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: about without speculation is that him selling produced hope. And

583
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: here's the catch. It produced hope, but too many I

584
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 1: guess I'm gonna say, I don't want to say casual,

585
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: but too many fans that weren't as dialed in maybe

586
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: as they needed to be produced. Hope that was going

587
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: to happen was that Bill Gates was going to buy

588
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: the team and spend two hundred and fifty million on

589
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 1: payroll and you know, be able to undo everything that

590
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: Lauria and the trades that depleted the farm system kind

591
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: of left us in the hole. And so then Colado

592
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: when this happens, right, and like you said, Jeter and

593
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: Sherman and this ownership group, look, part of it is

594
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: going to be financial, of course, but they took a

595
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: calculated risk. I would hope that their projective analysts understood

596
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: that if they did another rebuild, this city would feel

597
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,239
Speaker 1: the way that it feels I would hope that they

598
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: had enough intelligent people in the executive front office and

599
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: again those projective analysts that are going to say, if

600
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: you take this route, it's not going to be easy.

601
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: That would be might hope. Now, if they still did

602
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: that with that information, then you know what, a tip

603
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: of the hat to them because they made what they

604
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: felt was the right baseball decision even though they knew

605
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: the backlash was going to come back. And like you highlighted,

606
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: now there is hope, right. I mean, look a top

607
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: thirteen farm system, like you said, even before having meaningful bats,

608
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: which I'll even add, even before having a meaningful rebuilding

609
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,239
Speaker 1: draft because this is the first year that they're going

610
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: to be able to take advantage of a draft coming

611
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: off of a rebuilding year. You know, every single day

612
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: that you look in the miners, there's pitching that is

613
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: I mean, if we had this kind of pitching talent

614
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: with that previous offensive core, the rebuild doesn't happen. But

615
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: because of the trades, we didn't have that. So I'm

616
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: with you. I'm with you on the fact that there

617
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: is hope, but it's also just it's not blind. You know,

618
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: there are objective reasons to say that this can work.

619
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: And my hope is that as a fan base, we

620
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: start realizing that, we start realizing that the on field

621
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: product does envision some sort of plan. Now related to that,

622
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: the off field has changed a lot as well, right,

623
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: and like like I said in my introduction, part of

624
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: where you can really come into play here is giving

625
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: us that perspective of what you thought, what you thought

626
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: the feeling or the flavor or the taste was of

627
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: the rebuilding or rebranding. Rather on the business side, right,

628
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: the media portion of it, the fan look at, you know,

629
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: very Miami centric, geographic centric, very pro or heavy Hispanic

630
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: centric rebranding. What was your impressions around that topic and conversation.

631
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 2: My initial impression was the the backlash that the organization

632
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: was receiving on from the non hit I don't say

633
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: not Hispanic but non Miami Dade Corra fans, that it

634
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: was too Hispanic, that it was to Miami. My my

635
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 2: thought is, what what do you want them to do?

636
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: It's not like they were getting flooded by fans from

637
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: Little Havana. It's not like it's not like the stadium

638
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: was filled forty thousand stands every day, you know, it's

639
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 2: so they had to try something else, right, they had

640
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: to try something else. And honestly, I mentioned this to

641
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: you on Twitter a couple of a couple of weeks ago,

642
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: I was on I was at Disney last month, and

643
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen more Marlins hats than

644
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 2: I saw with the new logo a couple weeks ago

645
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: in Disney, there was at least and this isn't Orlando,

646
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: this is Gator Country, this is they don't even know

647
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: about Major League Baseball were there? This is I literally

648
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,959
Speaker 2: saw at least five or six hats with the new logo,

649
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 2: and we all kind of gave each other, you know,

650
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: a little nod. Right. It was It was fun I

651
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: found it very interesting how you would walk around places

652
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: like that that you wouldn't see one Lauria era Martin's hat,

653
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: but you wouldn't see, you know, the art deco. Honestly

654
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 2: pretty ugly logo.

655
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: Right. It's funny because if it's the Yankees fan, right,

656
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: the Yankee fan could hear this right now and say

657
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: you saw five hats, we see fifty, and it's true, yeah, exactly,

658
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: but we would never ever see the twenty twelve to

659
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: twenty and seventeen logo. Ever, I mean I would never

660
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: go out anywhere in public, not even in Miami. I

661
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: would walk into a barbershop in Miami and you know,

662
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: you'd see the heat, you see the Dolphins. You would

663
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: never see that logo. So even there, yes, there's there's

664
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: a new sense of optimism, even with something as simple

665
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: as a rebranding.

666
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly be I mean as the uniforms look super sharp,

667
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 2: people ten people, you know, you walk around like you said,

668
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 2: you walked off a man now and you'll see at

669
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 2: least two or three people wearing a shirt, wearing a hat,

670
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 2: and it's it wasn't my step before. So I feel

671
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 2: like it's there. I feel like they're on the cusp.

672
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: And you know, with the with the All Star Game

673
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: that happened a couple a couple of years ago, with

674
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: the World Baseball Classes Classic a couple of years ago,

675
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: the passion for baseball in this town is there. I feel,

676
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 2: in my opinion, it's there. Hm, it's just now are

677
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: they going to be able to tap into it? And

678
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 2: is it going to be you know, is it going

679
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: to translate to people showing up at the stadium right?

680
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: And again, Miami is a winner's town. Man. As as

681
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 2: much as we hate to say that, Miam we love

682
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: winners so and the town is right for the taking

683
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 2: now because the Heats think the Dolphins, we won't get

684
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: into that. I mean, uh, the Hurricanes. Sure, but it's

685
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: it's college and it's football, so people are going to

686
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 2: go there anyway. People are clamoring for a professional franchise

687
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: to take over this town. And I think with with

688
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: the new stadium, with all the everything they've done with

689
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 2: the ballpark, with the young core of teap there that

690
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: this team has, and the potential for this team, I

691
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: think it's there. I think the passion is here, and

692
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: I think in a year or two, we're not going

693
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 2: to be having this discussion. You know, your your podcast

694
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: is not gonna be centered around around how fans feel.

695
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: It's going to be you know, straight up, how many

696
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 2: games are from the wildcard? What are our chances or

697
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 2: are we gonna buy? Are we going to be buying

698
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: or selling at the deadline? Who who's available? And it's

699
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: going to be conversations like that and not the ones

700
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: we seem to be having on a daily basis, trying

701
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: to trying to defend ourselves the quote logical fans from

702
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: the people who are ripping us for being fans, you know.

703
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, and you hit it right on the money

704
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: on a few things. Number one, Yes, Miami is right

705
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: for the taking. I mean it just is. You know.

706
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: This is not to say that Miami's a fan base

707
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: is not a die hard fan base or a good

708
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: fan base or whatever the national perspective is at times,

709
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 1: but Miami is a very casual it could be at times,

710
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: aside from the diehards, very front running type of city.

711
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: And if the Marlins can show that this plan which

712
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: has been replicated over the last decade multiple of times

713
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: and at a high success rate of depleting average to

714
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: mediocre team which again that core right only want seventy

715
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: five wins. You always hear me say that, and then

716
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: boosting a farm system going and signing international players, having

717
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: solid drafts, being able to now re engage in a

718
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: city right now when people will see the Marlins and

719
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: it's like, oh great, here come the Fish. When in

720
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: a few years from now, if they're winning, it's okay,

721
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: let's go see the fish. Because that's what Miami is.

722
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: We support a winner better than any other city in

723
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: this country. But man, if you don't win, they'll pretend

724
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: that they never knew you. And that's where.

725
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: Look what happened with the Heat in twenty ten. Yeah,

726
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 2: you know outside of outside two thousand and six, Miami

727
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 2: wasn't a basketball town.

728
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 1: Yep. Waight created this absolutely.

729
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And look what happens when you win for

730
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: a couple of seasons.

731
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Heat fan will say that that's not

732
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: the case. All right, go watch or go find the

733
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 1: two thousand and two, two thousand and three, two thousand

734
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: and four attendants, all right, and you'll see it's it's

735
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: from bottom half of the league to skyrocketed to the

736
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: top four. And it stayed there because Wade of winning culture.

737
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 2: Two thousand nine, when they won fifteen games two thousand

738
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: and eight, I remember what year it was, but there

739
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: was nobody at that arena and they were winning fifteen games.

740
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: It's just the way it is. There's only one team

741
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 2: that feels a stadium even though they lose and they

742
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 2: torture their fans, and that's.

743
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: The all yep. And that's because of history for yeah,

744
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: absolutely many years. Absolutely, And there's just there's also a

745
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: limited opportunity with the Dolphins you have your eight games

746
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: to go steve them. So you're going to be there

747
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: every Sunday, right, regardless of whether they end up one

748
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: in fifteen or not, that you're eight and eight, you're

749
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: gonna be there. It's very different with baseball. But I

750
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: agree with you. You see the World Baseball Classic there,

751
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: there's a love for the game here. There was a

752
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: special that was circulating around Twitter. It was the University

753
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: of Miami like video tribute that they were doing to

754
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: baseball in Miami, and you see it from the age

755
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: of four to the University of Miami that this is

756
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 1: a pipeline for baseball talent where kids are love from

757
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: t ball to high school everything, and then what it

758
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: just stops at um. It just stops at um because

759
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: quite frankly, we're also a kind of pissed off fan

760
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: base right with the Marlins. They've been pissed off for years,

761
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: They've been hurt for years, they've been betrayed for years,

762
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: and hopefully Jeter and Sherman and the rest of the

763
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: owner the rest of the ownership group really understand that

764
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: that really you're gonna have to win. They've done well

765
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: with the rebranding. I don't mind the Miami geographic centric,

766
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, initial launch. I do think at some point

767
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: they do have to start expanding. But for the first

768
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: year of a rebranding, why wouldn't it be Miami centric.

769
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: That's where the city is located.

770
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: Right, Try to get your neighbors, you know, you need people,

771
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,959
Speaker 2: you need people around the stadium to be to buy

772
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 2: in first before you start expanding. It's it's common business practice.

773
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But you know that anything with the

774
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: Marlins is going to be is gonna be disseminated a

775
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: willing to have different ways. I mean, you know the

776
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: Denbo story where he was upset with the dogs, which,

777
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: come on, if you don't like dogs, that's odd, but

778
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: he just didn't want dogs where the people where the

779
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: players were eating like that. That makes sense to me. Right,

780
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: There's just there's there's a lot. There's a lot that

781
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: happens all right, Tony. So you know, we have a

782
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: few more minutes. Is there anything that is there anything

783
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: else on your mind that you would want to discuss today,

784
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: Anything about you know, the particular stadium upgrades possibly or

785
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: anything that you might tell the random Joe that says, now,

786
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: I'm you know, the Marlins have lost me forever or

787
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: are you just ready to go and have a good

788
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: rest of the Sunday.

789
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 2: I mean, I can, I can. I can talk too.

790
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: I can talk a little bit about about the top

791
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 2: the ballpark upgrades because I I go a lot. I

792
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: have two kids, so I mean right now, my goal

793
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: in life right now is to get one of my

794
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: two kids a lot of baseball as much as like this,

795
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: at least one of them. I just want want.

796
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: It's a good goal. I mean, you know, that's good

797
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: in my books.

798
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 2: So I try I take them, you know, I try

799
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 2: to go maybe once a homestand I'll go to a game,

800
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,479
Speaker 2: especially if it's a longer homestand maybe i'll go too,

801
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: But like a short one like this one, I probably

802
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: can't make it out. But if if what we've heard

803
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: that Jeter took the suggestions from the de Milo Miami

804
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: booths that were around the ballpark last year. I don't

805
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: know if they there, haven't seen them this year. I

806
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: think they were just there last year, and the amenity

807
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 2: and the changes and amenities are based on that. Then there,

808
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 2: I think I think they're listening to the fans, and

809
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: I think it's a good step forward. The ballpark looks great.

810
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 2: I'm glad the green fans is gone. I'm glad the

811
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: sculpture is gone. That autonationality looks amazing, and the view

812
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: from the automationality is amazing, just being able to walk

813
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 2: around the But even if you if just just go

814
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: to the ballpark, if you just go to the ballpark,

815
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 2: you're gonna get hooked. You're gonna get hooked because the

816
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: ambiente that they have there, the music section, you know,

817
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: probably you're gona probably gonna you go starting pitching performance

818
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 2: on our end, right, So you're gonna you're gonna you're

819
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: gonna have fun at the ballpark. Plain is simple, whether

820
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: you love baseball or not, just because just because of

821
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 2: the what they're trying to do now, the baseball will follow.

822
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: But they have they have the foundation in place with

823
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: the ballpark. Now, you just gotta put a winner in there,

824
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: and they will. I have a feeling that they will.

825
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I agree to me. The ballpark finally

826
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: looks like a baseball park. You know, before it was

827
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: too art centric for me. And I know that there's

828
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people that really like that, and that's okay.

829
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 1: Everyone has a right to their opinion. When it comes

830
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: to style, I get it. It's very Miami to have

831
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: the loud colors, to have the flamingos dancing, all of that.

832
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: I understand all of that. So that's okay for those

833
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: that love the Laurier era ballpark. For me, when I

834
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: go to a ballpark, I want to have a sense

835
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: of beauty behind it. I want a sense of almost class,

836
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: you know. That's the That's the thing that everyone's gotten

837
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: on Jeterano. He's made Marlin's Park look like, you know,

838
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: boring Yankee Stadium. All right. I don't think it's boring

839
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: number one, but if it is, so be it. It

840
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: looks like a ballpark. It's beautiful. Go walk around the

841
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: standing room only area. I mean the food upgrades, I

842
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: enjoy them. I'm a big eater, so I like the

843
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: food upgrades that they have.

844
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: I have.

845
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: One hundred times over asked in that team below campaign

846
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: booth for the changes that we've seen, and for as

847
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: absolutely corny as it sounds, this is the first time

848
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: that you felt heard as a fan in whatever you know,

849
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: in forever, as a Marlins fan, I would say so.

850
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: The fact that they took the thirteen million or whatever

851
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: they took to renovate and to really listen to their

852
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: fans and put out a stadium product, a service product,

853
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: a food product that we were looking for. Is beautiful

854
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: for me because you know what, You're right, the baseball

855
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: will follow. It's not here. Now. You have some that

856
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: you'll see every day they're starting pitching, Brian Anderson Alfaro.

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Speaker 1: You have guys that you can see it. But yes,

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Speaker 1: the majority of the baseball will follow. But like Jeter said,

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Speaker 1: and although he got crucified for it, even if you

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Speaker 1: go out and the Marlins lose, you're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: good time at the stadium. You really will, especially if

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Speaker 1: you go out on a Friday, on a Saturday. You

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Speaker 1: know the party in it podcast. It is a great atmosphere.

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Speaker 1: And it's nice to hear that. You know, I'm not

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Speaker 1: the only because if I say that, then I'm just

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Speaker 1: I'm advocating for the Marlins. But you have no reason

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Speaker 1: to advocate for them. It's just if you're an apologies right, right.

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Speaker 2: So it is it is.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: It's like I said, the environment, the environment they created

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Speaker 2: is top not just first class, really it is first class.

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Speaker 2: Now when the baseball follows hopefully people follow and you know,

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Speaker 2: we get a because it's loud in there when the

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Speaker 2: roof is closed and there's twenty twenty five, thirty thousand

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Speaker 2: people in there.

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Speaker 1: Now that World Baseball Classic experience was their best game

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Speaker 1: I've ever got advantaged.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there will be a home field advantage if we

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Speaker 2: can put a winner in there. We close that roof

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Speaker 2: and there's thirty thousand people screaming and yelling.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, all right, brother, I appreciate you. Man. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure that I'm going to have you back on because

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Speaker 1: you've been great. Thank you for that insight. Go be

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Speaker 1: with those beautiful kids of yours. Have a good weekend,

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Speaker 1: and I'll definitely contact you so we could get back

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Speaker 1: on another day.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, Dani. I appreciate the time.

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Speaker 1: All right, brother, you have a good one, you too,