1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of The Doug Gottlieb 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: three to five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: boxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR Boom. What Up America, 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fuck Sports Radio. I hope you're having 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: a great day. The Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast live every 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: single day, same bad time, same bad channel. Uh what 10 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: should we talk about? Hey, guys, you want to talk 11 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: some baseball? Kyles Shober hitting four home runs last night? 12 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: You going to do that? Or we could talk some hoops? Right, 13 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: we talked some college football after last night. Whatever do 14 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: you guys want to talk about? Oh? I know Micah Parsons. 15 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: So Micah Parsons is a Green Bay packer. And let 16 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: me just let me just give you a little insight 17 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: into my life. Right, I know a lot of people. 18 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: That's inarguable. I think most people you get to our 19 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: age and you know a lot of people. Now, I 20 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: know a lot of people in sports and in entertainment. 21 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: None of this is new information, right, none of it 22 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: is new information. But I do know a lot of 23 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: people in sports. I do know a lot of people 24 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: that are influential in sports, especially in the sport of football. 25 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,919 Speaker 1: And so what happened was two days ago John Cood, 26 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: who works in State in radio, tweeted out Micah frickin' Parsons. 27 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: So people lost their mind and they came to me 28 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: because they think, well, you know everything. I'm not an 29 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: NFL insider. I don't purport to be. It didn't make 30 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: any sense to me at all, right, that the Cowboys 31 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't just sit tight and go, hey, if we can 32 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: come to an agreement, you play this year, then you 33 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: become a free agent next year knowing you can franchise tag. 34 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: That was my thoughts. I was wrong. So maybe we 35 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: need an explanation why, by many people's estimation, the best 36 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: defensive player in football was traded a week and a 37 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: half before the season was going to begin. Here's Jerry Jones, 38 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: owner the Cowboys, explaining why the deal was made. 39 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: So we have the highest paid player in the NFL 40 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 2: at quarterback, and we made that commitment last year and 41 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: we're proud we made it and had everything to do 42 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: with this decision. Everything it is give us every opportunity 43 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: with Dak Press Good and Lamb and the base that 44 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: we've got to win now. This give gives us a 45 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 2: better chance to be a better team than we have 46 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 2: been the last few several years since Michael has been here. 47 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: Not any negative on Michael, but we're trying to get better. 48 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: We're trying to stop the run and stay in the hunt. 49 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: I am very excited about, very excited beyond any consideration 50 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: of a regret of the consideration that we got in 51 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: this trade and of the player. I'm very excited about that. 52 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: It is more in keeping within my mind what's in 53 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: the best interests of the Dallas Cowboys. 54 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: So it's all that wording is really interesting, right, What 55 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: does it all mean? What does it all mean? First, 56 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: let me take it to Jeane Slater. She's the NFL 57 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: network reporter on the Cowboys. She's still a podcast on 58 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: the Cowboys as well, so she's dialed in there. She 59 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: had this to say on the Herd in regards to 60 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: Michaeh Parsons and how he was how he was perceived 61 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: in in the Cowboys locker room. 62 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: The truth of it is the building one here. Starting 63 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: about two years ago, we started hearing frustrations within the 64 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: locker room. And when I say frustrations, I don't want 65 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 3: to sit here and say that Micah Parsons is a 66 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: problem player. He certainly doesn't have problems off the field. 67 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 3: It's more of In talking to former coaches, one of 68 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: the concerns was does he love football or he does 69 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: does he love the idea of being a football player 70 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 3: that gets the accolades, then gets the camera and the podcast. 71 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 3: And there would be frustration when they were in meeting 72 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 3: rooms and he would drift in and out. I would 73 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 3: describe it as just real he needs a coaching staff 74 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 3: that's really going to dive in and invest in him. 75 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: We saw that with Dan Quinn. We saw Mike Zimmer 76 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 3: sort of buy in as much as he could, you know, 77 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 3: last year. But he's that type of player that just 78 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: requires a lot of buying and attention. And I think 79 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: it started to wear on the locker room. Let me 80 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: change that. I know it were on the locker room 81 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: because in talking to previous coaching staffs in exit interviews, 82 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 3: there were a number of players who came to them 83 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 3: and said we have to do something about Mike. 84 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: We have to do something about Micah was actually that 85 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: was actually uttered. So in some ways this is about culture, 86 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: which is honestly the same reason that the MAVs moved 87 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: off of move off to Luka Dongic. I think the 88 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: problem with it becoming about culture is that if he 89 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: was this big of a problem, if his problems outweighed 90 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: his production, then why did you offer him a five 91 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: year contract worth forty million dollars per year. Again, we 92 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: can get into how everything went sideways. We can get 93 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: into the fact that Jerry tried to negotiate without the agent, 94 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: and it would allow me to speculate, Hey, I don't know, 95 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: maybe maybe Jerry got ticked because Parsons was a bad 96 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: actor in this deal. And I don't mean that he 97 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: was a poor actor. I mean he's a bad actor 98 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: from the standpoint of he started the negotiations without his agent. 99 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: Then when the negotiations got came to a head, then 100 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: he ran back to his agents like, Hey, they're trying 101 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: to negotiate without me. I don't know. That's a possibility. 102 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: What doesn't make sense about the Cowboys, about what Jane 103 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: Slater's saying and I'm not saying in any way that 104 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: what Jane Slayer's saying is not accurate. But the idea 105 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: that the Cowboys moving off of Micah Parsons makes them 106 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: a better team because he was killing their culture, because 107 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: he's not truly invested in being a great football player, 108 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: just being a Micaeh Parsons, big personality. That sounds great. 109 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: Why ya from forty million dollars guaranteed per year? Why 110 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 1: did you come to an agreement that that? That hasn't 111 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: been answered for me, but I can tell you from 112 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: a Green Bay, Wisconsant perspective. Does the idea of him 113 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: needing a podcast, needing attention, wanted to get likes? Does 114 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: that should that be troublesome? Yeah, it doesn't fit with 115 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: how the how the Packers role doesn't fit without the 116 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: Packers role. But the argument the Packers can make, whether 117 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: it works long term or not, is, hey, you're making 118 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: forty seven million a year, now, you don't need a podcast. 119 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: I do think a good young locker room, actually an 120 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: older locker room is probably the best place for that 121 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: type of act, a younger locker room. It can go 122 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: either way. But the part of the argument that doesn't 123 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: make sense from the Cowboys perspective is I hear it. 124 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: I get it. He had a podcast he you know. 125 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: The messaging is, I don't know if he loves football 126 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: as much as just loves the benefits of being a 127 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: football player. 128 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 4: That is. 129 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: Those are keywords for coaches to hear, because you want 130 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: somebody who loves what they do, you love what you do, 131 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: then you don't have to worry about him quitting on 132 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: a fourth down play when all is for not football 133 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: guys like guys that want to play football that are 134 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: grinders that love playing football. Basketball, same thing, baseball, same 135 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: thing we talk about all the time. You have to 136 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: have guys that love it and not everybody's gotta love it. 137 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: But at his position, at his price tag, he's gotta 138 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: love it. I get it. But I'm struggling with the 139 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: If he drove everybody so crazy, why did they offer 140 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: him such a big deal, then come to an agreement 141 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: on the deal. If you didn't want him and you 142 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: wanted this to play out as such, you could have 143 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: moved him, or you could have gotten as much out 144 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: of him as you wanted this year. Make him play 145 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: under that contract. Fine, if he doesn't play, play hardball 146 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: instead you bailed. You got a really good player, you 147 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: got two picks. But it doesn't make sense in terms 148 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: of how they handled everything. I get it, Micah Parsons 149 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: is this new generation. It's no different than in baseball, 150 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: guys that like to callac around the bass pass, guys 151 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: that handle things different. The old guard doesn't like it, 152 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: and eventually the new guard becomes the old guard, and 153 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: they don't like it either. And I don't know what 154 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: happens with his podcast or the podcast, or if he 155 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: tones it down a notch or tones it down to notches. 156 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. What I do know is that the 157 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys up until very recently desperately wanted him to return, 158 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: and we're willing to make him the highest paid non 159 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. That to me, does not scream 160 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: of a guy who they're concerned about what he does 161 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: for their culture. Now, if you're if you're if Jerry 162 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: Jones is forget what he's saying. What he's thinking is 163 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: this allows us to load up for next year. And 164 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: by you know, by paying Clark, you know, pennies in 165 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: comparison to what you would have had to pay Micah, 166 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: we save money, We get more draft picks up on talent. 167 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: That all sounds great, but don't tell me your aims 168 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: are to be competitive when you lose the best defensive 169 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: player in the division, maybe the best defensive player in 170 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: the NFL, and you replace them with a good player 171 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: nine years in nothing and a guy who lacked the 172 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: pass rushing that Micah Parsons had. 173 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 5: This is the best of the Done Dot Leap Show 174 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 5: on Fox Sports. 175 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: Radio Stug Gottleab Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Uh 176 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: I think yeah. We got Jared Smith upcoming. Jared Smith's 177 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: our Fox Sports Radio betting analyst. He'll join us here 178 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: just after we get to Monsey, but before we can 179 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: get to Monsey, well, we will get to Monci. We 180 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: like to do this every Friday, especially in NFL season 181 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: college football season. Everyone has a line that they look 182 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: at that just jumps out at them and you need 183 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: that kind of nudge from a friend. That's what we 184 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: provide with something we call the Gambler. Ah, the Gambler 185 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: one pick, one pick, that's it's all. You get one 186 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: pick that you want to tell the entire world here's 187 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: how you make money this weekend. 188 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 4: Kids. 189 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: Let's start with Jason Stewart. He likes the Jay stew 190 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: team parlay. What do you got, Jase. 191 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 6: Two for today's Jay's two team parlay. You need to 192 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 6: run to the betting window. It's today. It's a two 193 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 6: team parlay today that includes the Georgia Tech Colorado game. 194 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 6: Georgia Tech travels to Colorado and coach Prime Georgia Tech's 195 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 6: actually favored on the road by four points. I want 196 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 6: you to take the Yellow Jackets, and I need you 197 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 6: to pair it with another team to complete your Jay's 198 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 6: two team parlay. And I want you to look at Waco, 199 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 6: Texas where Auburn travels to Baylor. They are facing the 200 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 6: Baylor Bears. I want Baylor in this game. They're getting 201 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 6: a point at home. And just a memo to Auburn fans, 202 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 6: Bo Jackson is not walking through that door. So Baylor 203 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 6: to Georgia Tech and the Jay's two team parway tonight. 204 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 6: Thank me on Monday. 205 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 7: Months all right, So a big matchup this week is 206 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 7: gonna be nine LSU and number four Clemson. And the 207 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 7: big story at least in this you know, as they're 208 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 7: getting ready for the new season, is that LSU's offensive 209 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 7: line has not been the greatest. It's been the talk 210 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 7: of town, and it's been struggling. And then they're arguably 211 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 7: gonna face the best defensive line maybe in Clemson, and 212 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 7: so I know this is a top ten matchup, which 213 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 7: maybe is a little scary to touch. But I am 214 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 7: taking Clemson in this first game between these two to win, 215 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 7: just outright. 216 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Clemson as a as a dog, gonna win the game. Right, 217 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: that's the pick. Yes, Okay, I like it. I mean 218 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't pick it, but I like it. 219 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 6: That's a good. 220 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: But I do like it. Okay, I'm going to go 221 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: with a pick from a game. Again. I'm not a 222 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: big Oklahoma fan, right, I don't think they should have 223 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: left the Big twelve, and Brent Vennables has really struggled 224 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: and I think he'll always struggle with the mentality the 225 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: Oklahoma fans expect double digit wins or else. When you're 226 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: now in a league where you're you're just kind of 227 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: a team, you're not middle of the road, you're incredibly accomplished, 228 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: but let's be honest. You're not in Alabama, you're not 229 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: viewed as Texas, you're not Georgia. You're somewhere notch below there. 230 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: They went out and got John Matier, plus they got 231 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator. They're taking on Illinois State. I mean 232 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: this is a game of complete mismatch in terms of salaries. 233 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: Oh you has a loaded, loaded, loaded up on defensive line. 234 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: They should be absolutely nasty. They've won eighteen consecutive home openers. 235 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: I famously lost to TCU and five when they had 236 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson as the air running back. In your last 237 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: home opener, they'll win. They're a thirty two point favorite, 238 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: they'll win, they'll cover. That's right. I'm giving you advice 239 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: to bet on o you. It doesn't happen often, probably 240 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: won't happen the rest of the year, but you can 241 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: do it and you'll be happier for it. Ryan, you 242 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: got one. 243 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 4: I think personally that the Buckeyes are gonna dog walk Texas. 244 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 4: I think it's not even gonna be close. 245 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: Dog walk Texas. Yeah, dog walk Texta are a point 246 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: a half favorite. So you're taking Ohio State to win 247 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: and to cover. Correct. 248 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 6: Yes, I think arch Manning is overrated. 249 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean it's hard. I mean he's so well 250 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: thought of with two starts under his belt, I don't 251 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: think he's where they think he's going to be on Saturday. 252 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: But will see Okay, you know we do. Now now 253 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: we get to sing for a taste of your whiskey. 254 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: Oh there we go. No, wend, Come on, I can't 255 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: hear you sing? Ryan? No, when to walk away? Give 256 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: me some basin run. You never count show money when 257 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: you're sitting at the table. Time enough account. It's the 258 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. One of my 259 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: favorite parts of Friday is a guy who has worked 260 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: himself into incredible physical condition, plus his mental condition is 261 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: ready ready to win you some money. Is our Fox 262 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Betty Analyst Go host a Fox Sports Radio 263 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: countdown to kick off with Rich Hornberger and Brian Know. 264 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: That's each Saturday nine am to do an Eastern time 265 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: listen live on any of our Fox Sports Radio Philips 266 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: or the iHeartRadio Apatol presented my bet MGM Jared. Let's 267 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: start with last night, the Big ten goes zero to 268 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: four against the spread. Now, there's lots of different ways 269 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: you can take it. As a Vegas expert, what does 270 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: that look like to you? 271 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 8: Well, first of all, look at the opponents, right, Miami, Ohio, Buffalo, Ohio, Cincinnati. 272 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 8: You know, not exactly murderer's row. And then you kind 273 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 8: of look at the teams that were playing last night. 274 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 8: They were all kind of the teams that you expected 275 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 8: to be in the middle of the Big Ten. I 276 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 8: think Nebraska maybe had the highest expectations of all of them, 277 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 8: and so let's isolate that game specifically. Nebraska really struggled 278 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 8: to move the ball, and I think that's going to 279 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 8: be kind of the vibe in the Big Ten this year. 280 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 8: I just don't think there are a lot of elite 281 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 8: playmakers outside of the Big Three. In fact, I think 282 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 8: you can pretty much rename the conference to the Big 283 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 8: three this year. It's Penn State, It's Ohio State, and 284 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 8: it's Oregon, and I just don't see a lot of 285 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 8: contenders outside of those Big three. I mean, you look 286 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 8: at Nebraska, Nebraka. 287 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 4: Had a lot of love. 288 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 8: Right. You get Matt wool year three del Royola, you know, 289 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 8: kind of a sending maybe he can take that step forward. 290 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 8: This year. They struggled to protect Royola with max protect scheme, 291 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 8: like six seven guys in the protection scheme, and he 292 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 8: was still under pressure, struggling to find receivers downfield. They 293 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 8: gained less than five yards per play. They needed an 294 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 8: interception late and that's not a good Cincinnati team. 295 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 4: So I do have concerns. 296 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 8: About the Big Ten. Don't look at the win loss record, right, 297 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 8: it's the against the spread number. Are they exceeding expectations 298 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 8: so far? Four games in? It is early, but not 299 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 8: a great record for the Big Ten so far? 300 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: Fair enough? TEK got leap show here on Fox Sports 301 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: for Jared Smith is our guest, is our Fox Sports 302 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: radio betting analysts. Let's just get right after it, right, 303 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: Ohio State Texas? Who do you like? 304 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 8: Yeah, this is a fascinating game, and we've seen some 305 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 8: money come in on Texas over the last twenty four 306 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 8: hours or so. The interesting part about Week one dog 307 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 8: These lines have been up for months, so the market 308 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 8: now the limits are pretty low, usually in the offseason. 309 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 8: So the sharp betters have had their chance to bet 310 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 8: Texas plus two and a half have had their chance 311 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 8: to bet Ohio State if they want. Is a slight 312 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 8: favorite much the entire summer. And then what do we 313 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 8: see over the last twenty four hours when books start 314 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 8: to take larger wagers. Well, the larger bets start to 315 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 8: come in, and then you start to see where some 316 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 8: of the real action is and Texas is getting some 317 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 8: love here. I think when you look at this game 318 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 8: from a far right head coach coordinators for Ohio State, 319 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 8: that's going to be a problem. You get both coordinators gone, 320 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 8: and I think that, to me is the biggest edge 321 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 8: in this game for Texas, where they have a little 322 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 8: more continuity quarterback. I would give you Ed starts Manning. 323 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 8: I know everyone wants to pretty much give him the 324 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 8: Heisman Trophy already. I'm not there yet, but I do 325 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 8: think he has an edge over Julian Saying. And then 326 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 8: you obviously look at the trenches, and I think that 327 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 8: is where Texas has a big edge in this game. Now, 328 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 8: don't get me wrong, Ohio State is very talented, but 329 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 8: they lost both tackles in the draft. They're shuffling around 330 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 8: a ton of talent. They're right tackle Austin Several barely 331 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 8: played last year. In fact, he played guard for most 332 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 8: of last year. They've got another transfer coming in from Rice. 333 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 8: Their other starting tackle, Philip Daniels, came in from Minnesota, 334 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 8: so both tackle positions did question for Ohio State. That's 335 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 8: where Texas eats. They are fantastic rushing the passer. Colin 336 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 8: Simmons was an All American last year. They have some 337 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 8: great linebackers coming back as well. Anthony Hill had over 338 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 8: one hundred tackles, almost seventeen for a lost and eight sacks. 339 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 8: And then the guys that Texas got up front, Travis 340 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 8: Shaw from UNC, Moron Watson from Syracuse, and Brevard from Purdue. 341 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 8: I mean these are like, you know, all big ten, 342 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 8: all true freshman type players that they were able to 343 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 8: get in the transfer portal. I think defensively, this is 344 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 8: going to be an absolute slug fest. I give Texas 345 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 8: the edge. The line movement makes sense when I bet it, 346 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 8: and am I very excited to bet this game now 347 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 8: that it's a pick them. No, you missed the move 348 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 8: on Texas. But I do think they go into Columbus 349 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 8: and get a win revenge game two. Right, they lost 350 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 8: their last game against Ohio State in the Cotton Bowl 351 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 8: last year, so they've been thinking about this one for 352 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 8: a long time. 353 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: Jared, let's go to a couple of the big games 354 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: Clemson LSU. 355 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 8: Yeah, I absolutely love this matchup, right, Just bet the 356 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 8: Tigers and you're gonna win. I think when you look 357 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 8: at the line movement, when you look at the line movement. 358 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 8: Clemson is starting to get a little bit more love 359 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 8: in the market than I would like. You know, we're 360 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 8: out to four and a half now. Everyone loves Clemson 361 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 8: this year, and I understand they've got the most returning 362 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 8: production in all of college football. Dabo's finally getting transfers in. 363 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 8: How about that, He's finally adopting the transfer portal. What 364 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 8: a novel concept for a head coach in Division one 365 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 8: football in twenty twenty five. But when I look at LSU, 366 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 8: I do kind of like this roster. I mean, they 367 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 8: lost a lot defensively up front, but they brought in 368 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 8: Pyburn from Florida. They brought in Patrick Payton from Florida State. 369 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 8: They brought in Jamari Butler from the Braft. I mean, again, 370 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 8: these are kind of all conference caliber players up front 371 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 8: on the defensive line. So I do think Clemson is 372 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 8: fantastic upfront as well. Maybe they have the best trench 373 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 8: both offense and defense in the country, But I think 374 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 8: LSU will be able to hang with them. The question 375 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 8: is ken they's very new, maybe inexperienced LSU receivers get 376 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 8: open against a very very good clumpson secondary. In fact, 377 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 8: I would argue this is the best secondary in college football. 378 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 8: I think downs in Ohio State's the best overall player 379 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 8: perhaps on the defensive side in the second aary in 380 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 8: college football. But you've got Terrell and Hampton elite duo 381 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 8: with cornerback. I think Terrell might be an All American 382 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 8: this year. And then Khalil Barnes replaces the Mickens kid 383 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 8: who went to the draft. So I think you've got 384 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 8: a really good secondary for Clemson. LSU's receivers are intriguing. 385 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 8: Chris Hilton returns he missed all of last year with 386 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 8: an injury. I think he gives them a little bit 387 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 8: of explosion that they were lacking last year. They bring 388 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 8: back their best receiver, Aaron Anderson, who led the team 389 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 8: in receiving yards last year. Nick Anderson, another Anderson transfers 390 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 8: in from Oklahoma, very intriguing prospect. Missed all of twenty 391 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 8: four with an injury, but in twenty twenty three at 392 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,959 Speaker 8: twenty one yards per reception. So I'm fascinated by the 393 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 8: matchup ls u's receivers. I think Nuss Meyers a really 394 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 8: good quarterback, especially in the SEC against this very good 395 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 8: Clemson secondary. I think whoever gets the better of that 396 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 8: matchup iLINK Clemson. But I think whoever gets the better 397 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 8: of that matchup will win this game. But I think 398 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 8: LSU is. 399 00:21:58,960 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 4: Very live here. 400 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 8: I think for if this thing continues to stretch out 401 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 8: the five or maybe even six, I think you come 402 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 8: back on LSU before. 403 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: Saturday Convicts versus the Catholics. Notre Dame, Miami, Miami, big 404 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: time Carson Beck, big time quarterback transfer, same for you know, 405 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: Notre Dame has done this before with the quarterbacks. Who 406 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: do you like and why? 407 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, we're off the three now, so we're starting to 408 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 8: get some love on Notre Dame. 409 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 4: I think the strength. 410 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 8: Of Miami's team is their offensive line. We don't necessarily 411 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 8: think of that when we think Miami, right, we think 412 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 8: a little more flashy, a little more show and go. 413 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 8: But this is a Miami team, and Alex Mirabal, the 414 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 8: offensive line coach for Miami, deserves a ton of credit. 415 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 8: Four starters back for them, including they're all conference tackle myoga, 416 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 8: including they're all conference guard Cooper and they got this 417 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 8: here Mark el Bell six nine three forty, who's going 418 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 8: to play the other tackle spot? McCoy the other returning 419 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 8: starter the Miami offensive line should be very good this year. 420 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 8: They should dominate a very bad acc in most of 421 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 8: their games. But this is the Notre Dame defense that 422 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 8: we know is very gap assignment sound. We saw it 423 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 8: in the playoff last year. I think they overachieved what 424 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 8: we expect the sal of their talent to be. The 425 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 8: question for Notre Dame is they are replacing a lot 426 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 8: of really talented players, but also very experienced players. Mills, 427 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 8: Kaiser in the secondary, Morrison and Watch. Those guys are 428 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 8: all in the NFL. And they also replaced their coordinator, 429 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 8: al Golden. Chris Ash the new coordinator. The new defensive 430 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 8: coordinator for Notre Dame, Herban Meer, said in the offseason 431 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 8: that this was the coordinating higher of the entire offseason. 432 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 8: I think he's a little biased because he obviously coached 433 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 8: at Ohio State. But I am interested to see what 434 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 8: Ash can do because I do think that there is 435 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 8: some really good talent here at Notre Dame. Tricky spot 436 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 8: early in the year, you're down in the humidity in Miami. 437 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 8: I think now that we're out to three, I think 438 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 8: now you're going to start to see some of the 439 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 8: Hurricanes love come in and you got to give credit 440 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 8: to their offensive coordinator Shannon Dawson. 441 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 4: He took cam. 442 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 8: Ward Zuo, star recruit from Incarnate Word to Washington State 443 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 8: one year at Miami number one pick. Now, the sum 444 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 8: of Carson Beck's parts, I think are important. I view 445 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 8: Beck as more of a distributor, not a playmaker. Car 446 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 8: Pat Moore a playmaker. He can make plays and kind 447 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 8: of run around the pock and do all these crazy things. 448 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 8: I think Carson Beck needs the sum of his parts 449 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 8: to be better, and Miami lost a little bit of 450 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 8: talent there, especially at the receiver position. Restrepbo and George 451 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 8: are both gone. Isaiah Horton transferred to the BAMA. 452 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 4: I think Daniel's the kid. 453 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 8: They got from LSU, is an absolute stud. I like 454 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 8: the back Fletcher. I think it's three. I like Miami Doug, 455 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 8: but I'll be honest. Of the three games this weekend, 456 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 8: this one feels the most toss upy, and I think 457 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 8: the weather down there Miami, as you know, can absolutely 458 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 8: play a Factorysi Ken. 459 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: It should be a great weekend. You're gonna have a 460 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: great show. If you like what you hear from Jared Smith. Obviously, 461 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: you know it's more than just about lines and trends. 462 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: It's about knowledge of the actual teams. Tune into count 463 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: Down to Kickoff with Rich Ornberger's former pro Brian no 464 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: airs each Saturday between nine am and New Eastern Time. 465 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: Listen live on any of our five sports radio affiliates 466 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: or on the iHeartRadio presented by bet MGM Jared good Luck. 467 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for join us. 468 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 5: I appreciate that Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 469 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 5: talk lineup in the nation yet catch all of our 470 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 5: shows at foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 471 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: It's the Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Mark 472 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: Dominic's up coming in about five minutes, so I think 473 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: I can answer this question pretty easily, right, how are 474 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: things in Green Bay? I mean, look, Green Bay, Wisconsin 475 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: has trademarked. The Packers own the trademark for Titletown, USA, 476 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: thirteen titles. In ironic timing, my basketball team ran the 477 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: steps at Lambeau at six am today, I can tell 478 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: I cannot. I haven't been able to pull every Packer fan. 479 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: But what was missing for the Packers, and we talked 480 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: about it a bunch was a pass rush, and you 481 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: got one of the most dynamic pass rushers, if not 482 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 1: the most dynamic pass rusher in any conversation of it, 483 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: at twenty six years old, now playing for the Green 484 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: Bay Packers, and they gave up Frank Clark, who good 485 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 1: player nine years. Obviously he had some baggage when he 486 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 1: left college. He hasn't had I don't believe he's had 487 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: any baggage in the pros. Respected guy, but not a 488 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: guy that strikes fear in the hearts of offensive coordinators 489 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: or quarterbacks. Parsons does. So, how are things in Green Bay? 490 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: They expect them to win a Super Bowl or get 491 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl? It was the okay, if we're 492 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: not going to make a move for go out and 493 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: sign a wide receiver. They drafted a wide receiver in 494 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: the first round, first time they did that over twenty years. 495 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: And then they traded for the best defensive player in 496 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: football who's yet to truly reach his prime, and gave 497 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: him the biggest contract in the history of sport for 498 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: a nine quarter back. You know ed. Policy took over 499 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: as president of the team, and yesterday they had Mark 500 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: Murphy who now works with us at Wisconsin. Green Bay 501 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: mark Murphy's retirement, so he was the He's the outgoing 502 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: president and Ed Policy, who's you know is his dad? 503 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: Carmen Policy used to run the San Francisco forty nine ers. 504 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: Ed's been in Green Bay for a long time. But 505 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: when he was asked about Brian Goodenkunst and he was 506 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: asked about the coaching staff, he has said there haven't 507 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: been extensions given. Well, now everybody you know good and Cunst. 508 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the motivator or the fact 509 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: that Parsons was out there. He's also represented by Mogetto, 510 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 1: who's the same agent who represents Shordan Love. However it 511 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: came to be, Yeah, there's pressure, but there's also just 512 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,959 Speaker 1: expectation because they got a lot of talent. Now they 513 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: got an elite, elite pass rusher. I'll be interested to 514 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: hear what Mark Dominic thinks of this deal, of how 515 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: it came to be. What do we not know about 516 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons that we're knowing now and does that affect 517 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: how we should look at him as a player. Let's 518 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: welcome in Mark Dominic. We mentioned former Gentlemen manager Tampay Buccaneers. 519 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: When you when somebody texted you or you saw on 520 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: social media, or maybe you saw on TV that Micah 521 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: Parsons was dealt, you know, ten days for the regular 522 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: season or a week really before some of the regular 523 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: season kicks off. What was your immediate reaction. 524 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 4: It was, you know, it was surprised, right. I really 525 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 4: felt like the Cowboys were going to try to find 526 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 4: a way to hold on to them. But certainly the 527 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 4: value for where Micah is was nowhere near where the 528 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 4: Cowboys wanted to go. And I'm sure you know, knowing 529 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 4: his agent, who's one of the top agents in the NFL, 530 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 4: he had a good pulse of what other clubs were considering, 531 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 4: even though you legally can't know that. And I think 532 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 4: that's what made this thing hold up. And you know, 533 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 4: when I go back and look at this trade from 534 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 4: the lens of the Packers, it's hard not to like, right. 535 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 4: I mean, they tried Lucas van Ness in the first 536 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 4: round that didn't work out. Now they know they're getting 537 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 4: Micah Parsons. There is something with Micah Parsons that maybe 538 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 4: the Cowboys didn't love, maybe something off the field or 539 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 4: things like that. But two things that really stand up 540 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 4: to me, Doug. Number one, I think it's the right 541 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 4: move for the for where the Green Bay Packers are 542 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 4: right now. I think that they're really trying to say, hey, 543 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 4: we can go get this right now. We think that 544 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 4: we can catch the Detroit Liones, but catch the NFC 545 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 4: as well, and you know, giving up two ones Kny 546 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 4: Clark's going to be a loss. But Carl Brooks is 547 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 4: a player that people don't know who he is unless 548 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 4: you're a Packer's fay. He's done a really good job, 549 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 4: but he's had the opportunity inside. The other thing that 550 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 4: says for the Cowboys is, you know their former first 551 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 4: round Thick Smith, Mozzie Smith. It obviously hasn't worked out, 552 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 4: and that's why they had to make Kenny Clark part 553 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 4: of the deal. 554 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: Okay, let's get to the off the field stuff. I 555 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: mean i'd heard some of it and usually was wrapped 556 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: around you know, he's always in a podcast, he's tweeting something, 557 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: he's in the middle of something. But if they were 558 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: really bothered by it, why they offer him such a 559 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: big contract before, you know, before this whole thing blew up. 560 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's good. You know, all the adage 561 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 4: that you know, I been around before. As you know, 562 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 4: do guys like football do they love football or do 563 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 4: they live football? Right? And I know that sounds a 564 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 4: little bit corner, but there's a lot of guys out 565 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 4: there that really likes football but don't love it, and 566 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 4: there's a lot of guys that love it that don't 567 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 4: live it. I think Micah Parsons is completely blessed in 568 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 4: terms of his athleticism, but I do think the Cowboys 569 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 4: feel like he loves football now and lives football. And 570 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 4: when you're going to just obliterate the market the way 571 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 4: that that just happened, you got to make sure that 572 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 4: every piece of every ounce of his body is exactly 573 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 4: what you want to be. And maybe the Cowboys just 574 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 4: couldn't get themselves there. Maybe they didn't want to be 575 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 4: the people that would, you know, change the market overnight 576 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 4: at that position. I mean, look right now, I mean 577 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 4: it's like MaTx Crosby just did a deal a couple 578 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 4: months ago, and people like, wow, now that deal looks sad. 579 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 4: It's just it's it's such a huge move by the 580 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 4: Packers financially too, that have so much ramifications for so 581 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 4: many players and so many teams to deal with the 582 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 4: next great pass rusher, and how you're going to try 583 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 4: to Trump Micah Parsons, So you know, I felt like 584 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 4: there was whispers too behind the scenes that you know, again, 585 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 4: I think he loved it. I don't know if he 586 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 4: lived it. 587 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: Okay, what should expectations be in Green Bay? 588 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've said all along. I really thought that the 589 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 4: factors who closed the gap or could close the gap 590 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 4: on the Detroit Lions. And I felt like, you know, 591 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 4: even one of those teams could represent in the NFC 592 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 4: for this Bowl. And this just makes you feel that 593 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 4: much more even confident that the Packers have that ability, 594 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 4: because when you look up and down the roster, you know, 595 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 4: the one thing that I think, like I said, with 596 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 4: the Lucas vns like him, you know, playing but not 597 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 4: really becoming the pass rushers, they've been looking for the 598 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 4: outside impact player. They now have that player. And you know, 599 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 4: I think that that was along with this offense. I 600 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 4: think they're gonna be able to do offensively. I love 601 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 4: their offensive line, what they've done there. They've got the 602 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 4: back end covered up really good. I think Evan Williams 603 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 4: is a sleeper safety that people will get to know better. Obviously, 604 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 4: David mckinnie's a great player. I just think that they've 605 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 4: really been focused on their offseason and how they wanted 606 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 4: to handle this. You know, they went out and got 607 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 4: Nate Hobbs and corner, and they got Aaron Banks offensive line, 608 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 4: and I think this team's ready to compete. I see 609 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 4: them right there with the Detroit Lions, and maybe this 610 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 4: made them one step closer because they just got a 611 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 4: guard that's probably going to get them the ball back 612 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 4: on offense, you know, two or three more times. 613 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: A game, no, no question. Okay, So let's look at 614 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: the rest of the league, most of these other Just 615 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: what what'd you think about the deal that the Bengals 616 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: pulled off? Right? Kind of obviously he's at a different play. 617 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: Alexander's at a different point in his career than Michael Parsons. 618 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: Parsons only twenty six years old, still coming into his prime. 619 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: The thought is that maybe he's going out of his 620 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: prime but only not even extent and simply kind of 621 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: double your money for a year. What do you think 622 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: about what the Bengals did? 623 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 4: Well, I think it already looks good, right, It already 624 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 4: seems like the Bengals did the right thing now, you know, 625 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 4: moving his salary up great. You know, I think that's 626 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 4: it's a win for Trey Hendrickson. He got at least, 627 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 4: you know, what is a fourteen to fifteen million dollar 628 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 4: raise this season. So now I was going to get to, 629 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 4: you know, at least the right vetter around thirty million dollars. 630 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 4: You know that Micah Parson's sitting at forty eight or 631 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 4: forty seven, excuse me, just certainly seems eclipse. And so, 632 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 4: you know, I think it's a win for both and 633 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 4: that one, I think it's fair for the Bengals to 634 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 4: get him to that in mark, but it also allows 635 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 4: Trey to go be free agent next year and say, hey, look, 636 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 4: you know, I'm I'm TJ. Watt. I've got maybe one, 637 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 4: you know, three four more years in me wants to 638 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 4: prove and if you could put together anything near what 639 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 4: he did, you know over the last three years, two years, 640 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 4: you know, it's gonna be hard to look at Trey Hendrickson, 641 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 4: you know, back to back seventeen and a half sax 642 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 4: seasons that he can't go command of an a bigger number. 643 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 4: So I'm glad it worked out for the Bengals. I'm 644 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 4: excited to see what that team looks like this this fall. 645 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 4: But you know, in the end, it looks like the 646 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 4: Bengals already got the better deal by based off this 647 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 4: Mica Parsons deal. 648 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's that's a no brainer. I mean 649 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: it's incredible the deal that they end up they end 650 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,479 Speaker 1: up getting. Let me circle back to Parsons, when would 651 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: you play him if you're if you're the Packers, he 652 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: saigned a huge deal, but you know, hasn't done anything 653 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: in pads yet and we're getting close to game time. 654 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure Coach Hafley, his defensive coordinators, you know, 655 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 4: chomping at the bit to find out a way to 656 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 4: get him in. You've got to think on third down, 657 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 4: you know, when it's you know, third and twelve, third 658 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 4: and eight, third and fourteen, you know that, hey, look 659 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 4: put my can just say just go go go be 660 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 4: an athlete. I think you're going to see a small package, 661 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 4: right I think week one, uh maybe you know, twenty 662 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 4: to twenty five plays and I think you'll just say, 663 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 4: slowly go up five to ten plays per game until 664 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 4: he's exactly where they want to rotate him through and 665 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 4: keep him fresh for the whole game. So I still 666 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 4: think you're going to see maybe fifteen to twenty. But 667 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 4: he's going to definitely play Week one for the Packers. 668 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 4: You don't make this move. You know, he's an athlete. 669 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 4: You know he's going to be in shape, and you 670 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 4: just you know, you you're excited to have I mean, 671 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 4: this guy's going to create an impact, and you know 672 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 4: it's going to hurt Dallas. They're going to be counting 673 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 4: on a lot of guys that they're hoping, like Overshown 674 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 4: or Sam Williams, guys that they're hoping can kind of 675 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 4: step up somewhat. Well. They know that, as Jerry Jones said, 676 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 4: they'll be better against the run. 677 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 1: I guess, did you what was your reaction to what 678 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: the Browns did in Trady Kenny Pickett and then having 679 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: the rookie quarterbacks be the number two and number three? 680 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 4: Not surprised? I mean, you know, I'm actually you know, 681 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 4: for the for the Browns, you know, they should be 682 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 4: thankful that it's said what happened to Ed o'connelly. Just 683 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 4: can't seem to stay healthy, which is broken, you know, 684 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,919 Speaker 4: some are broken worrist and now and then allows Kenny 685 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 4: Pickett to be at another team, but the Browns at 686 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 4: least get something in return for Kenny Pickett. I think 687 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 4: it makes for a perfect room. You didn't have too 688 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 4: many quarterbacks this where you don't have four quarterbacks sitting around. 689 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 4: You got two young guys learning behind Joe Flacco watching him. 690 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 4: I think it's a win win for everybody. Kenny Pickett 691 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 4: now steps into a spot where it's Gino Smith, and 692 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 4: if something happens to Gino, he's got a chance to play. 693 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 4: And I think that's all it can Picker could ask 694 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 4: for at this point with the opportunities he's been given 695 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 4: in the NFL. So you know, I think it's good 696 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 4: for the Browns to clean up the room, open up 697 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 4: a roster spot, good for the Browns to get a 698 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 4: draft choice. Regardless of whatever it was, it's still a 699 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 4: draft selection. And good for the Raiders because they need 700 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 4: somebody that's got game experience behind Geno Smith, who's not 701 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 4: very young. 702 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins are an interesting team. There's lots of 703 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: talk of some dysfunction there. You know, obviously Tyreek Kills 704 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: a supreme talent, but you know, how how do they 705 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: fit him back in the fold After some of the 706 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: things he said last offseason, It just feels like the 707 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: Mike mean, Daniel thing has just kind of hit a 708 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: speed bump and slowed him down. And it's not the 709 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: same as you know two years ago or even going 710 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 1: into last year. Why is that? 711 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think some of the luster wore off. I 712 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 4: think that you know, there's been lots and lots of reports, 713 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 4: like you're talking about where you know, who's running the 714 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 4: show or how they're running the show. And you know, 715 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 4: I'm sure that mister Ross, who's genuinely been very impatient, 716 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 4: is probably right at that bubble where he's like, hey, look, 717 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 4: you got to be in the playoffs this year, We're 718 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 4: going to make changes again. And then you know mister 719 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 4: Ross is he just doesn't you know, he's very quick 720 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 4: to pull the trigger on people. And so for coach, 721 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 4: I think he's got to come out and they've got 722 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 4: to have a great start to their season and be 723 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 4: able to show that, you know, they still have the 724 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 4: magic on offense, the explosive players, all the things that 725 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 4: you know you want to see. It's I don't I 726 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 4: think it's maybe a little hyped in terms of how 727 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 4: bad it is. Remember, this team gets to start with 728 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 4: the Colts, they play a Patriots team that's you know, uh, 729 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 4: still in the rebuilding phase before they go to the 730 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills and they play the Jets and the Panthers. 731 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 4: So they've got four games here that I look at 732 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 4: and say, if they're four and one, you know it 733 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 4: was gonna be quiet. Even though those are games, I 734 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 4: think they should be favored in all four of those games. Sure, 735 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 4: they still the Cleveland Browns, Atlanta Valkris, So they've got 736 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 4: games in here where they can win. So I'm not 737 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 4: writing this team off as it's a big disaster, but 738 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 4: I do think they've got to get to ten wins 739 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 4: or I don't think Mike makes it crazy. 740 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 1: You know, you know a team we have not brought up. 741 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: This is weird. We have not discussed the entire offseason 742 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. And I bring it up because, hey, 743 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: two years ago, they were what the Commanders were last year. Right, 744 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: you have a bright young coach, you have a talented 745 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: young quarterback who's now going into year three. But something 746 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: happened with them last year where there seemed to be 747 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: regression at quarterback and it didn't seem to be the 748 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: same team. And again it's a team we just have 749 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: not discussed at all. Where are the Houston Texans heading 750 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 1: into this season. 751 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 4: I think in a good shape. You know, they're still 752 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 4: playing a vision that they should you know, besides where 753 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 4: Jacksonville ends up, they should be in pretty good shape. 754 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 4: I mean again, the offensive line right now is a 755 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 4: little concerning for me based off Tunsel not being there 756 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 4: and what that means for them, you know, throughout the 757 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,760 Speaker 4: entire season. But when you look at you know, Nick Chubb, 758 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 4: you know, I still think he's got it in him. 759 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 4: You think about Nico Collins and what you know, he's 760 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 4: a wide receiver one just and now he's got a 761 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 4: chance to really prove it. I like Jaden Higgins, our 762 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 4: second round pick. I think he's going to be a 763 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 4: really good player for them. I think this team's good. 764 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 4: I think there are ten type of win season. But 765 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 4: I just think that I don't feel like they've vastly improved. 766 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 4: I think they just kind of, you know, held held 767 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 4: the line, I guess is the best way to say it. 768 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 4: You know, they didn't really have a lot of collateral 769 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 4: to go do stuff in the draft this year, and 770 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 4: so when I look at the team in general, I 771 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 4: say it's a good team. Is it a playoff team. 772 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 4: I think so are they one and done in the playoffs? 773 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 4: You know, I know it's you know, we haven't started 774 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 4: week one, but you know, I just think that as 775 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 4: you watch the season unfold, uh, it's going to be 776 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 4: I think hard for them to get over ten wins, 777 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 4: just based off of some of the opponents they play where. 778 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 4: I think that they even though they play in the 779 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 4: South and they play in the South, I think that 780 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 4: they're not quite as easily victor as they have been 781 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 4: in the past. I mean, you start off with the Rams, 782 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 4: We're going to learn a lot about them right off 783 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 4: the back against that Rams defense to see what this 784 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 4: offensively looks like. 785 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: Mark Dominic joining us here. Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox 786 00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Eagles open up with the Cowboys game. Talk 787 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 1: about open up that feels like one that they should 788 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: be confident in. But what are reports out of the 789 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: Eagles for their new coordinators. 790 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 4: Sounds like everything's been really good just listening to, you know, 791 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 4: kind of reading the tiles more or less. You know, 792 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 4: beat requires aren't an't going to let anything go by 793 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 4: that they're uncomfortable with, but it sure feels like they 794 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 4: feel very good about where Kevin is coach Kevin on 795 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 4: the offensive side, and obviously Nathaniel has been around for 796 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 4: a long time, and I think that there's a lot 797 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 4: of comfort with what he can do and what he'll 798 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 4: do with this defense. So I think they're probably feeling 799 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 4: very good about where they sit. Look, it's about the players. 800 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 4: It's about putting Jalen Hurts in an opportunity to make plays. 801 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 4: But don't put the whole game on Jalen Hurts hiss shoulders. 802 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 4: You know he can step up in the big games, 803 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 4: but there's times where you know you've got to just 804 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,240 Speaker 4: make it easy for Jalen in my opinion just watching 805 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 4: the tape, and as long as they don't over try 806 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 4: to make him misster playmaker every snap, which they shouldn't. 807 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 4: They've got to obviously take one Barkley back there for 808 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 4: a reason, but I think that they're just going to 809 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 4: ride take one again, and I think that because of that, 810 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 4: it makes a lot easier to the play caller. It's 811 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 4: hard to boo a play caller when he turns around 812 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 4: and hands the ball to take one Barkley. 813 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: Yes, I would, I tend to agree there. Danny Dimes 814 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: starting quarterback at Indy, You mentioned not high expectations for Indy, 815 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,959 Speaker 1: but does just is the way they're doing things bringing 816 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 1: Richardson off the bench. Does that make sense to you? 817 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 4: It's hard, you know, I don't disagree with it, you know, 818 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 4: I think that you know, it's one of those ones 819 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 4: where Danny dimes. You know, it's great for Tyler Warren fans. 820 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 4: If you drafted Tyler Warren, you're gonna be really happy 821 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 4: to have Daniel Jones. If you have Alex Pearson trying 822 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 4: to throw the ball down the field, that's not going 823 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 4: to be a great thing, right, That's not what he does. 824 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 4: He likes to dump the ball off and do the 825 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 4: high percentage passing. That all being said, Chris Ballard's you know, 826 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,240 Speaker 4: been a gym a lot longer than I was a GM. 827 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 4: But every year he's basically had a different starting quarterback 828 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 4: every year he's been the GM of the Colts. That's 829 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 4: incredible to say that a completely different whether it's Philip 830 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,240 Speaker 4: Rivers or Matt Ryan, or whether Andrew Luck or Jacoby Brissette. 831 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 4: You know, it's Richardson now Daniel Jones. It's been amazing, 832 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 4: you know, and that's hard to find any type of 833 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 4: continuity with a football team when you always have a 834 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 4: brand new quarterback under center for the next season, and 835 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 4: I think they're in the same spot where, you know, 836 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 4: I hope for Daniel Jones, but I just feel like 837 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 4: I think defensive quarterors kind of know Daniel Jones. They 838 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 4: know he's going to throw the ball. He's not going 839 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 4: to take shots down the field. That's just not his personality. 840 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,479 Speaker 4: And I think you're just going to try to limit 841 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 4: Josh downs, and you're gonna certainly limit Alex Pierce. But 842 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 4: the big thing is taken away the underneath, taking away 843 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 4: Tyler Warren, trying to take away Taylor catching the ball 844 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 4: of the backfield. That'll be the big thing, and that's 845 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 4: what he loves to do. So I think it's going 846 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 4: to be easier for defensive quarters to handle him than 847 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 4: it would be even a Richardson, who, again I don't 848 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 4: think is a starting quarterback, but at least you had 849 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 4: to respect the running in the athlete that. 850 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,760 Speaker 1: Richardson who is Mark Dominick, twenty years in the NFL 851 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: for an office of scouting. Of course, you managers of 852 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers joined us every week great insight. Mark, 853 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us. We'll talk next week. 854 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 4: Talk next week. Sounds good.