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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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Speaker 1: There's Charles w Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry laughing at me,

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Speaker 1: and uh, this is stuff you should know the podcast.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Welcome, Welcome every one. That welcome friends. That

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Speaker 1: was one of the best false starts we've ever had.

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Speaker 1: It was like four and one. That was weird. Jerry

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Speaker 1: hit record and Josh went, Chuck, you gotta welcome people

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Speaker 1: on the podcast. I forgot. Hey, hey, man, you're sure

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Speaker 1: it's taking me back. Man, it's taken me back to

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Speaker 1: July exactly five years and three hundred and sixty days

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Speaker 1: before my birth. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: calculated that really quickly. Yeah, that was pretty chuck as well,

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Speaker 1: I believe it or not. No, Yeah, you know I

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Speaker 1: was born in the seven I know, is it seventy

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Speaker 1: or seventy one. It's a nice round number, seventy one.

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Speaker 1: I do remember all the Space race stuff though, from

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Speaker 1: being young. Yeah, I remember the tail end obviously for sure. Well,

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Speaker 1: we had already won when I was around. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: kind of already one since I was around, but it

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Speaker 1: was still like a big deal. It's still doing the

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Speaker 1: victory lap basically. Yeah. When I was around, it was

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Speaker 1: Space Shuttle, Space Shuttle, Space Shuttle, and as an adult,

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Speaker 1: I've not seen two of the space shuttles in person. Uh,

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Speaker 1: launches are just like in the hangar. The commission was

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Speaker 1: in the hangar. That's pretty cool, tho things are? He

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Speaker 1: was very cool. Yeah, yeah, they're really neat. I've never

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Speaker 1: seen one. You definitely should. There's one at the New

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Speaker 1: Air and Space Museum at Dulis Airport. I think it's

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Speaker 1: Enterprise maybe or Endeavor, and then um. You can also

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Speaker 1: see one at Kate Canaveral Kennedy Space Center, which I

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Speaker 1: highly recommend to anyone who's even remotely interested in space,

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Speaker 1: space exploration or the history of space. Kennedy is the

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Speaker 1: place to go. It is awesome. I've been to and

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Speaker 1: can recommend the Naval Air Station Museum in Pensacola, Florida. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and I've been Huntsville. But have you been to Space Camp? No? Man,

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Speaker 1: that's where Space Camp is, right Huntsville. I think so.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. If it's just look inside that movie

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Speaker 1: the movie was big. I never saw it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean I was at the right age where a movie

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Speaker 1: about kids in space was kind of perfect. So what's

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Speaker 1: that Huntsville then? Is it like just the the that's

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Speaker 1: like the rocket place, that's where they did the the

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Speaker 1: original stuff, right. I think Huntsville's before Kennedy. We should

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Speaker 1: know this stuff. I think it was in conjunction with it,

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Speaker 1: if not before it. But yes, so it was a

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Speaker 1: space center and I think it still is. Marshall is

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Speaker 1: in Huntsville. It's getting on to a great start anyway.

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Speaker 1: You like space. I like space. We're not like space

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Speaker 1: junkies or anything like that. We don't like Intravene Slee

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Speaker 1: injected space now like Tom Hanks. You know, we never

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Speaker 1: produced a mini series about it or anything like that,

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Speaker 1: but you know, it's an interesting thing. I think after

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Speaker 1: researching how the space race worked, it occurred to me

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Speaker 1: that there's at least two other episodes that we should

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Speaker 1: do how the moon landing worked, where he did did

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Speaker 1: they fake the moon landing? Which was a pretty good one,

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Speaker 1: but we should do one like assuming that it actually happened,

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Speaker 1: and then uh, the International Space Station or just space

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Speaker 1: stations in general, like the history of the like Skylab Mirror,

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Speaker 1: you know, the I S s. Totally should Okay, so

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Speaker 1: we'll do those people we have committed ourselves, like John

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Speaker 1: Kennedy committed America to put a man on the moon

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Speaker 1: by the end of the sixties. So we're going to

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Speaker 1: do our podcasts on space stations. Yeah. So, like I said,

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Speaker 1: you took me back to July nine, So let's take

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Speaker 1: everybody back. Do you want to get in the way

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Speaker 1: back machine? Oh? Man? Yeah? Well the stuff this thing

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Speaker 1: and did you leave like a halfy eating cheeseburger in here?

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Speaker 1: Something is funky? Yeah, I thought that might keep. It's

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Speaker 1: just go back in time to when that burger was fresh,

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Speaker 1: good thinking. Will you share it with me? You obviously

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Speaker 1: only wanted half. Well that's why we all know we're kidding,

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Speaker 1: because Chuck didn't leave behind a half of cheeseburger. Silly. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So Chuck, here we are. I assume this is yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do a dramatic reading of the transmission between mission

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Speaker 1: control and the lunar Landing Module I'll be mission control.

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Speaker 1: Then I'll beat eagle. Okay, thirty seconds uh in prencies

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Speaker 1: righte off, We copy you down, Eagle. Here's a tranquility

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Speaker 1: base here. The Eagle has landed, Roger, tranquility. We copy

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is. We're all wearing short sleeve shirts with ties. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we're all cool under pressure. We've got flat tops and

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Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know. I didn't know actually

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Speaker 1: Moon that we know of, um, the there was a

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Speaker 1: That's why they had. As Tom Wolfe put it, the

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Speaker 1: right stuff. Great great book, great great movie, I've never

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Speaker 1: read the book, but the movie is amazing, so good.

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Speaker 1: If if you're out there and well, if you're a

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Speaker 1: listener mail from someone in Michigan that did the garbage

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Speaker 1: it must have been a Midwestern thing. Okay, so I'm

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Speaker 1: not insane in either is my father? No? But see

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Speaker 1: the Right Stuff people, really really great movie that encapsulates

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Speaker 1: uh leave on Helm, isn't it is that? Yeah? Great?

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Speaker 1: But I mean, like, why leave on helm he acts?

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Speaker 1: Mark movie a couple of years ago, shoot Shooter, Shooter, Sniper.

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Speaker 1: a nice So the Space Race, it was this kind

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't like let's see how much work we

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Speaker 1: seen that footage of those girls like on the Vomit

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Speaker 1: comment or something similar? Girls? Yeah, there's three girls in

423
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Speaker 1: a seat and one of them throws up and it

424
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 1: just goes right back into her face, and this kind

425
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: of hovers there. Have you not seen that? No, I

426
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 1: gotta send that to you. Is there real? Yeah? Yeah, man,

427
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: it is gross. What are they doing putting girls in

428
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: the vomit comment? They what? No, I mean not like

429
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: seven year old girls? Women? Women. We heard from our

430
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: feminist listeners and they said girls is better than females.

431
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: Girls is successible. I'm just coming with that. No, no, no no,

432
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Speaker 1: I'm still amazed that people just say female if they're

433
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Speaker 1: not talking about like a study or something. You know,

434
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Speaker 1: I've been listening over there and anyone say that it's

435
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: actually very very common female male. Yeah, it's very common.

436
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: You've done your own, uh an impromptu survey just by

437
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: being alive, man, being awake. Yeah. No, And it wasn't

438
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: like the vomit comment, Like, I don't think it was

439
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: the one that like Ron Howard wrote on it was

440
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: a right at Disney. It's basically it looks a lot

441
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: like a light aircraft that's doing a nose dive, but

442
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 1: they're they're basically waitless for a second, So it's obviously

443
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: not a light aircraft. But it just looks small. But

444
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: that girl just pukes in her own face. It is

445
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: so gross, all right, So just to clear it up,

446
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: Chuck wasn't saying that women should not be allowed in

447
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: vomit comments, and Josh wasn't saying that the women in

448
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: the vomit comments were seven year old. I think that

449
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: does well, put thank you. So the Soviets scored the

450
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: second point as well. Second touchdown Big one April twel

451
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty one. They actually put cosmonaut uh Euri Gagarin

452
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Speaker 1: uh into space and he was the first man in

453
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: space and the first man to orbit the Earth, and uh,

454
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: that was egg on the face of the US at

455
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: that point on fourteen nothing. Yeah, I think if you

456
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: could like give him a couple of touchdowns for that one,

457
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: you should nothing. Yeah, I mean, like Urie was the

458
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: first person in space and again apparently America could have

459
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: been the first. But it's actually better that, um, I guess.

460
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: Von Braun said, we need to schedule a more test

461
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: than the percent certain about putting a human in here,

462
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: and um they they they added one more test, which

463
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: pushed Alan Shepherd's Freedom seven flight back by a couple

464
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: of months, which put it a month after Uri Gagarin's flight, Right,

465
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: so we could have done it. But even if we had,

466
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: the Russians still would have basically beaten us. They would

467
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: have gotten at least some points even for being second,

468
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: because Alan Shepherd's flight was basically shot up into a

469
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: suborbital edition and came right back down. It was a

470
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes suborbital space flight, which you can do now

471
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: if you've got like a hundred grands pretty much. Um,

472
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: what you'r Garon did was he shot up into actual

473
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: Earth orbit and orbited the Earth, the entire Earth once,

474
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: and then came back down a hundred and eight minutes later.

475
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, straight up and down in fifteen minutes or

476
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: up full orbit of the Earth and back down a

477
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: hundred and eight minutes. I mean it's actually good that

478
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: we came second in that anyway, And that chuck that

479
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: lit the fire beneath America's bottom, like we gotta get going, yeah,

480
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: because think about it, I mean, like we're down three touchdowns.

481
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: Who wrote this one? Craig Freud and Rich right, he

482
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: points out, like this is the time of the followed

483
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: the McCarthy trials. Um, the people did not like the Soviets.

484
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: America really wanted to dominate, and we were getting our

485
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: butts kicked publicly by the USSR and it was demoralizing.

486
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: But rather than let ourselves get beat down, Kennedy got

487
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: with NASA and said, what can we do to beat

488
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: these guys? That's right, because not only with those two

489
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: things were they beating us, but they at one point

490
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: during UH this time had more hours in space, this

491
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: one rocket than all of ours put together. Yeah, so

492
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: we were getting trounced bad. So they were basically just

493
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: doing like victory lap after victory lap, like they would

494
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: send guys up in orbit the Earth one after the other. Yeah.

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00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: At the end of the UM the Vostok UH program,

496
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: which was their first program, I believe, yes, their first program.

497
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Speaker 1: By the time they finished it, they had not only

498
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: sent the first man in his space, they sent the

499
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Speaker 1: first woman in his space, Valentina Tereshkova, and she orbited

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Speaker 1: the Earth forty eight times in Vostok six. During the

501
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: Mercury program, I think the best we came up with

502
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: was Gordon Cooper doing twenty two times around the Earth.

503
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: So they were just crushing us um and just racking

504
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: up the points left and right. That's right. So America says,

505
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: you know what, we should develop something a new program,

506
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: and that's how it works. You know, they have a program,

507
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: it does what it does over a period of years.

508
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: Then they retired that they start up in newing. The

509
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: new program was the Gemini program, and the Soviets started

510
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: the Voss called program on a little bit and they

511
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: again got out to a little early lead with that

512
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: program because they were the first to send multiple cosmonauts up,

513
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: sent three into vols called one and then had a

514
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: spacewalk before we did Alexei Leonoff and Volscott two March

515
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Speaker 1: eighteenth nineteen. So there's still they're still beating us at

516
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Speaker 1: this point. They are, but by this time, just a

517
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: couple of weeks after Alan Shepherd's first flight and while

518
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: we're still just reeling from the the the Ryga Garan flight,

519
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: Um Kennedy came out onto the news and said, you

520
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: know what, we're going to be the first to put

521
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: a man on the Moon, and we're gonna do it

522
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: before the decades out. He kind of declared that the

523
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: finish line almost like whoever does this and it's gonna

524
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: be us. We'll win and this is a substantial gold

525
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: is set. I mean, like we've been beaten twice and

526
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: like you said, trounced um by the Soviets, and now

527
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: we're suddenly saying like, oh yeah, let's go to the moon.

528
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: Let's see who's first to the moon. And uh that

529
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: set the foundation for everything to follow. That began the

530
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Speaker 1: Gemini program, which, like you were saying, the Mercury program,

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Speaker 1: Each program was designed to kind of prove that we

532
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,239
Speaker 1: could do with certain step. The Mercury program proved that

533
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: a human being could go into space and safely come

534
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: back down, could orbit the Earth. These next two programs,

535
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: I guess the next Soviet program, what is it again? Yeah,

536
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: that one proved that a person could survive out in

537
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: space outside of a space capsule or space transport um.

538
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: And the Americans had Gemini, which ultimately bridged the gap

539
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: between Mercury program and the Apollo program, which would put

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00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: us on the Moon. And both the vox Shot and

541
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: the Gemini programs were like putting multiple people in space

542
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: together to work and do neat stuff, that's right. And

543
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: uh so with Gemini early on we were like, all right,

544
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: you guys are beaten into the punch. You're getting people

545
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: up there, and you can fly around the Earth a

546
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: bunch of times. You got the quantity part down, But

547
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: we've got to focus on quality here in the US

548
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: and learn how to do things up there like change orbits.

549
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: Can you do that? Rusky? And they said, and yet

550
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: And so all of a sudden we were flying around

551
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: up there, changing orbits, um rendezvousing with other spacecraft, docking

552
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: with rockets, and you can fly around the Earth as

553
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,239
Speaker 1: much as you want, but we're actually putting putting our

554
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: work into practice, like you know, what's it gonna take

555
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: to get on the moon. Since someone up there for

556
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: two weeks and dock with someone else, change orbits, fly

557
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: that thing around. And we were able to do that successfully.

558
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: And that's when we started pulling ahead because the Soviets

559
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: were just doing laps around the Earth. Well, they were

560
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: doing some other stuff they did do, like spacewalks and

561
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But yeah, it was these two programs

562
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: are where we started to pull away. And um, it

563
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: was that Gemini program that we used to to prove

564
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: that we could do things like spend two weeks in space,

565
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: which is how long it would take, Like he said

566
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: to go to the moon and back. Yeah, and the

567
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: Soviets were doing a lot of unmanned missions at the time,

568
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: or sending animals up their data gathering stuff like that. Yes,

569
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: there were a lot of animals sent to space that

570
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: that perished, that never came back, or that came back

571
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: in as fireballs. It's sad. I went to this museum,

572
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: um do you mean? I did? In in l A.

573
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: It's called the Museum of Jurassic Technology. You should go.

574
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: It is the most unique, peculiar museum you will ever

575
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: go to in your life. But one of the exhibits

576
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: is a hall of portraits of Soviet space dogs. Oh

577
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 1: really pretty neat, interesting and sad because they all ended

578
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: up dead. Huh yeah, it's it's sad. But the tone

579
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: of them more is the national pride, Like these dogs

580
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: gave their life the advancement of humans. Yeah. But I mean,

581
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: like if you, if you step back and really think

582
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: about it, these portraits are very much like human portraits.

583
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: Like the dogs are like looking up right, uh, you know,

584
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: into the future, with their chin raised and like their

585
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: their breast you know, proud. Yeah, yeah, and yeah there

586
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: the way they're done, it's neat. Well what they're looking

587
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: at is a dog treat. They're staring at the effect. Yeah, uh,

588
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: that's pretty neat. I'm gonna check that out. Oh you

589
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: need to go, man, go with a child's heart. Well,

590
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 1: I have no choice then, Okay, that's the only heart

591
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: I have. Uh all right. So where we're Project Jim

592
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: and I, we have a little bit of a momentum.

593
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: We we have what it takes. We have the right stuff,

594
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: if you will, to make it to the moon and

595
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: to walk around up there. And that is when Apollo

596
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: one caught fire, which was a pretty big setback in

597
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: January nine seven. Yeah, I mean, like, not only do

598
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: we lose like three of our great astronauts, these guys

599
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: were some of the originals. Um, I imagine that it's

600
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: scared the living daylights out of all the other astronauts

601
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: and all of the people in mission control in NASA

602
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: and Americans like, you know, this is everybody knew it

603
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: was dangerous, but now it was proven like it's deadly.

604
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: So this is a deadly endeavor that we're undertaking here. Yeah,

605
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: they knew that, they knew how dangerous it was. That's

606
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: why all their wives were just you know, no, no,

607
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't mean that might mean more like

608
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: the American public. Oh yeah, like yeah, you're right now,

609
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: we're losing people. Now. These aren't like dogs like these

610
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: are three guys you know, yeah, totally, and people that

611
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: America had grown to love, you know, like national heroes

612
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: at this point, right like the voice you gotta quit

613
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: saying that. And so after the fire, actually they disassembled

614
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: the launch pads but left the posts as a permanent

615
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: memorial to Apollo one astronauts. Yeah, and rebuilt launch pads elsewhere. Alright,

616
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: So at this point, the Soviets are concentrating on, like

617
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: I said, unmanned spacecraft. They're like, all right, you can

618
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: go walk on the moon, but we're gonna send We're

619
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 1: gonna orbit the Moon at least, and we're gonna develop

620
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: some docking systems and um, seeing how long we can

621
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: stay up there. Other David Blaine esque feats of strength, right,

622
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: which is kind of neat Like at some point around

623
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven sixty eight, the Soviets said, it's obvious

624
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: the Americans are going to make it to the moon.

625
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: We're not going to send a man to the moon

626
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: right now within time to be first. So let's pursue

627
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: some other stuff that the Americans aren't doing, Like what's

628
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: the big deal about the moon anyway? Right, And as

629
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 1: it turns out that kind of right, kind of um.

630
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: But humanity as a whole benefited from that decision because

631
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: the while the Americans were perfecting what the Americans were

632
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 1: perfecting things like space shuttles and that kind of stuff,

633
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Speaker 1: things that came directly out of the Apollo program and

634
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: the lunar landing and just that that science. The Russians were,

635
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: like you said, experimenting with things like docking systems, space stations.

636
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: They ended up building the Mirror and so after the

637
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: sky Lab. Yeah, we had sky Lab in the seventies,

638
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: which I again go to the National Air and Space Museum.

639
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: There's two. There's one at Dullest and then there's one

640
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: like on the mall in d C. Yeah, it's like

641
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: when it's one of the main Smithsonian museums. They have

642
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: like a model of skylight that you can walk through.

643
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 1: It's so seventies rrific, It's awesome. Yeah. Um, so we

644
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: were experimenting with space stations, but at the same time

645
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: it was very apparent after well, it wasn't the end

646
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: of the Cold War. This is before the end of

647
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: the Cold War, but after we won, after we landed

648
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: on the Moon, apparently the Soviets and Americans said, hey,

649
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: let's see if we can work together, and they actually

650
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: did in a very symbolic but also technically um proficient

651
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: manner the Soyo's Apollo mission of And we'll talk more

652
00:38:48,760 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 1: about that right up in this break man. That music

653
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: that's got me fired up. I know. Wow, we already won,

654
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: even yeah, at least the first time. All right, So

655
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: we left off you were talking about the joint Apollo

656
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: Soya's test project UM, which was a really big deal

657
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: to get together on this, and I'm I'm kind of

658
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: surprised even back then that they had the foresight to

659
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: work together, you know. Yeah, but because then we still

660
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: weren't like great friends his nation in the early seventies, no,

661
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: and space was still a huge question as to whether

662
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 1: or not it could or should or would be weaponized too, Yeah, exactly.

663
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: So for the two dominant superpowers on the planet to

664
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: get together was a big deal. Yeah, And that happened

665
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: in they literally got together in space when an Apollo

666
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: craft carrying three of our astronauts hooked up and docked

667
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: with the Soya's spacecraft with two cosmonauts, and they spent

668
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: a couple of days, uh, you know, working and probably

669
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: getting into one another, maybe drinking vodka. Yeah, they're probably

670
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: We're not so different. We don't have to go to

671
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: space and get drunk. Exactly. It's the best. I like tang,

672
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: you like tank, right, let's put some podka in it. Exactly.

673
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 1: So that was a big deal. And UM, at least

674
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: from that, it proved that we could work together, our

675
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: space agencies could work together, and UM it led to

676
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: this this age of cooperation that grew directly out of

677
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: the rivalry. UM. And like we said, the Russians were

678
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: kind of paying attention to living for the duration in space.

679
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: The Americans big thing was this Space Shuttle. We basically

680
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: had like some cars that we could drive to the

681
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: Moon or space and back. Um, and we kind of

682
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 1: put the two together. Um. The Russians had the Mere

683
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: Space Station and in the nineties their crews had worked

684
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: in the eighties or nineties, I don't remember their crews.

685
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: At least one crew had spent more than a year

686
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: in space. That was huge, super huge because part of

687
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: the goal with all of these is, can we one

688
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: day live in space? Period? And so ultimately this led

689
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: to this joint cooperation led to the International Space Station

690
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: UH in the nineties. Yep. And if you go up

691
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: to the International Space Station, you're gonna see Russians and

692
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: you're gonna see Americans and they're all up there working together. Still. Oh,

693
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: but Chuck, that is possibly changing. Yeah, I guess I

694
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: should have said had been working together nicely, like good neighbors.

695
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: Because is it Russia trying to like evict this now? Well,

696
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: they're basically saying like, hey, you guys can't get up

697
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: there anymore because and we're not going to give you

698
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: a ride. No, well, no, they will give us a ride,

699
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: but it's seventy one million dollars a ride now yeah,

700
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: and um, at the very least, it's humiliating that Americans

701
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: are having to hit your ride from Russians who are

702
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: basically extorting money from us. So is this all at

703
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: the root of it? Is it like just tensions between

704
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: Putin and the US? Yeah, it all came from the

705
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: Ukraine stuff in the sanctions. One of the first Russians

706
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: to be anction was the head of the Russian Space Agency.

707
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 1: So They were like, oh really, you know that's that's

708
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: space station up there, Like, you guys are in trouble now,

709
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: So I wonder is it not going to be the

710
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: International Space Station anymore? I think what Russia is basically

711
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: saying is watch what happens when we stopped giving you

712
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: guys ride right, and then we say, you know what,

713
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: let's just let the space station fall out of orbit.

714
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: We Russia will still have a space flight program, a

715
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: human space flight program. You guys won't because the International

716
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: Space Station is the only piece of human space flight

717
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: equipment that the United States has because the space Shuttle

718
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: program was scrapped. Wow. Uh so the space Shuttle was scrapped,

719
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: Like you said, um Bush before he left office sort

720
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: of had to read a directive for NASA moving forward

721
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: that is moot now because Obama scrapped a lot of it,

722
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: um Bush want to go back to the moon basically,

723
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: and even some of the people within NASA said, it's

724
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: like Apollo on steroids, and do we really need to

725
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: go back to the moon, Like what can we gain

726
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: from that at this point? So Obama scrapped it and

727
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: redirected NASA's funding towards more rocket technology. Research like how

728
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: can we fire rockets farther and uh, can we refuel

729
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: them in flight? And not just for military, but maybe

730
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: this stuff can be useful, uh, you know in the

731
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: space program as well. So that is the current space program.

732
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: But there's a new space race. Yeah, um ish China. Yeah,

733
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: has come along and very methodically and plaudingly has followed

734
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: and met its space goals. Two thousand three put its

735
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: first man in space. What do you said? They were

736
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: taco nuts, Tyco nuts, Psycho nuts. Yeah. Yeah, one of

737
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: the um I read an article about China's space race

738
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: and they said, so far their space program program is

739
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 1: roughly equivalent to the US and Soviet space program circum

740
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: mid sixties. I saw that too. Yeah, so they're clearly behind,

741
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: but apparently they are making a lot of headway in

742
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: a short amount of time. Plus they have the luxury

743
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: of not having to invent items like microchips from scratch,

744
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: right that people, the Russians in the so in the

745
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: Americans and the space race had to do. Um. The

746
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: fact is, though, if you if you read anything about

747
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: China and it's space ambitions and the United States in

748
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: the state of its current space program, you basically find

749
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: you're sitting around reminiscing about the golden days of Tang

750
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 1: and guests. Grissom. Yeah, we're we're China is basically going

751
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: to dominate space. They're poised to dominate space. They very

752
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: cleverly have started a space uh station program that will

753
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: come online at the same time that the I S S,

754
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: the International Space Station UM makes its fiery ark in

755
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: to the Pacific Somewhere I read, Yeah, the I S

756
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: S is going to come down some time after two

757
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: thousand sixteen, probably two thousand twenty, and the United States

758
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: will have no presence in space any longer. China will

759
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: be the only game in town with the space station.

760
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: And I feel like, I don't know that this is true,

761
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: but I feel like in something like space space exploration, UM,

762
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: that's kind of something that you have to build on momentum.

763
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: Once you use momentum, you really are set back. Like

764
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: all of these people who are working for NASSA who

765
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: have been laid off recently, and as they age out

766
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: and retire and and all of that cumulative knowledge and

767
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: and organizational memories lost. So even if we m to

768
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: ten years from now, five years from now and say,

769
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: whoa we're a spacefaring nation. We need to get back

770
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: out there. We've lost quite a bit already, not to

771
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: mention in the ensuing five or ten years where we

772
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: start to lose exponentially more. Yeah, it takes a while

773
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: to ramp that back up. And my my I agree.

774
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: My fear is this that we're going to take our

775
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 1: typical or what's come to be our typical klectocratic view

776
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: of things and just let private business handle it. We'll

777
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: just let you know, SpaceX handle it. For America. They're

778
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: addicted the money, so they're in their pursuit of money.

779
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 1: Um will benefit as a nation. Well, that hasn't necessarily

780
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: worked out for us with like you know, housing markets

781
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: and stock markets and dangerous chemicals and that kind of thing.

782
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 1: So while I do think that the true space race

783
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: right now is between private industry amongst itself and private

784
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: industry and China, I don't think that as a nation,

785
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: by sitting back and just leaving it to private industry

786
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: and virtually withdrawing our federal dollars from space exploration, that

787
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: the United States is going to benefit in any way,

788
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: shape or form. Well, Yeah, especially when you hear Aston

789
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: Kutcher is going up on Virgin Galactic. How's that helping us?

790
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: It's not Angelina Jolie's up there, though, I don't know.

791
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's neat, but it's it's one

792
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: of those private space travel for the super rich. It's

793
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: just like another thing for the super rich, like owning

794
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: a yacht, Like, how does that benefit me that if

795
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: you've got several hundred thousand dollars you can take a

796
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: suborbital flight, which is basically like a tourist. You know,

797
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: that's not that's not advancing I don't think that's advancing

798
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: our space exploration at all. Just leave it to business.

799
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 1: We'll see. And that's not to say that SpaceX or

800
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: or any of the private space industries aren't working to

801
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: do things beyond send movie stars enriched people to space. No,

802
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 1: they're working to send the rest of us to space too.

803
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: It's just the rich people and movie stars are the

804
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 1: ones who will have the money to hit that first

805
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: price point. But they're doing other things too, though, like

806
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: research or are they not? Uh, Like that's what I

807
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,959
Speaker 1: need to look at. I would imagine that probably most

808
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: of the goals of anything like SpaceX or any company

809
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 1: like that is to is to make money from space,

810
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: so I would guess mining, um, basically selling the services

811
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: to space agencies, colonizing and selling a moon condos. Sure,

812
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: like India, Iran, Um. These countries have space programs as

813
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: well and are entering space themselves. Space X can go

814
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: basically contract for them. Um. Yeah, they're they're doing stuff,

815
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 1: but they're not doing stuff necessarily just for the pursuit

816
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: of science like for the US even Yeah yeah, um,

817
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,959
Speaker 1: I got a couple of things before we finish. There's

818
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: some inventions that sometimes are mistakenly attributed to NASA which

819
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: aren't necessarily true, but our favorites in space. Yeah. Velcro

820
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: is the one I've always heard that's wrong, is it? Yes?

821
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: It was invented in the nineties by a hiker who

822
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 1: um noticed that little birds were stuck to his socks

823
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: and wondered how they stuck. I've heard that story. Look closely.

824
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: This is the true story. Look closely and saw that

825
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: birds have little hooks and his socks have little loops,

826
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 1: and that gave rise to velcon and velcro is used

827
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: a lot by NASA, so it's often wrongfully attributed to NASA.

828
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: All right, this is a fun game, since you you

829
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: know this stuff? Okay. How about Eminem's No, the popular

830
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: candy that melts in your mouth and on in your hands. No,

831
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: they also don't like squish around in space. The candy

832
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: coated shell makes it great for space travel, but not

833
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: invented four space. What about the joystick? Yes, okay, that

834
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: is the direct result of the Space Race and the

835
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: space programs. What about GPS? Yeah, because you can't spell

836
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: Global Positioning satellite without positioning. Yeah it system, isn't it?

837
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: GPS system? Yeah? It uses satellites. So we also have

838
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: the space race bot that one. We also have the

839
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: space face to thank for satellite TV. Uh. What about

840
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 1: um smoke detectors in your home? Yes, because of Space

841
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: program base yeah. Um. What about tang sopping dots, the

842
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: freest dride, the dipping dots. I don't know, man, that

843
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Speaker 1: was supposed to be like the you know, outer space

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Speaker 1: ice cream. It's what the answer? Not tan supposedly, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was developed by NASSA for them.

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Speaker 1: Um Tang. No, it was already around freeze drive foods.

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Speaker 1: The freeze drying process was already around the freeze drive

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Speaker 1: blood to save for later. Um. But then NASA adopted

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Speaker 1: it to start free drying food, so technically you can

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Speaker 1: thank NASA for free drive food. Yeah, and while tang

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Speaker 1: was not invented by the Space program, it was definitely,

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Speaker 1: um heavily marketed as being tied to the space program,

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Speaker 1: and it was a big deal. Like it was like

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Speaker 1: people gave it to their kids because they thought it

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Speaker 1: would make them go into space. Yeah, like stronger and

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Speaker 1: smarter and yeah, pretty much you got what are what

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Speaker 1: are some other? I have one more for you. Have

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Speaker 1: you ever heard there's like this um urban legend that

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Speaker 1: the American Space program and the Soviet Space program both

860
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Speaker 1: had this problem. Um, the the Americans they needed to

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Speaker 1: be able to write in space, but if you use

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Speaker 1: a pen, pens are functioned by gravity, and if you're

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Speaker 1: in zero gravity you can't use a pen Seinfeld, had

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Speaker 1: an astronaut been right, Yeah, So supposedly that NASA spent

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars in coming up with a zero G pen,

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Speaker 1: while the Soviets had a much better idea pencil. Was

867
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Speaker 1: that really? Yeah? Wow, So apparently that's an urban myth.

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Speaker 1: Both programs used pencils to start, but the Apollo one

869
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Speaker 1: fire showed that you don't want anything that's even remotely flammable,

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Speaker 1: like a wooden pencil aboard your spacecraft. So NASA started

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Speaker 1: using mechanical pencils, which were a couple of hundred dollars

872
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Speaker 1: a piece. They were way over paying them for him. Um.

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Speaker 1: And then a man by the name of Fisher, who

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Speaker 1: owned Fisher Pen Company, used his own millions of dollars

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Speaker 1: to create a pressure functioning pen rather than gravity functioning pen,

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Speaker 1: a space pen, which he in turns sold to the

877
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Speaker 1: US Space program and eventually the Soviet space program for

878
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: just a few dollars each. So that millions of dollars

879
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: space pen is a myth that you that's your Paul

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00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: Harvey moment. Uh pencils and hey, shout out to our

881
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Speaker 1: buddy David Reese, who wrote the quintessential books how to

882
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: sharpen Pencils book. Yep, not books, but if you want

883
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: to know about sharpening pencils, that's the way to go.

884
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: There's a book and he will explain that. And he's

885
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 1: a great funny guy than a friend. So yeah, he's good.

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Speaker 1: I always like to plug that. He's got a new

887
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Speaker 1: show coming out. Well, um, what that geo? Oh yeah, yeah,

888
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Speaker 1: what's it about. It's called Going Deep with David Reese,

889
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: where he each episode is like how to open a Door,

890
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Speaker 1: how to make ice, how to Squatterfly, where he goes

891
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Speaker 1: deep into the how too is a very mundane task.

892
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Speaker 1: It's nicely done. Yeah, I can't wait to see it

893
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Speaker 1: for sure. Um, have you got anything else? I got

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Speaker 1: nothing else. So if you want to know more about

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Speaker 1: space race, you can type space and Race in the

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Speaker 1: search part house to first dot com. And if this

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Speaker 1: fascinated you, you should go back and listen to our

898
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: was the mood Landing a hoax episode? Uh? And our

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Speaker 1: episode did Reagan Star Wars program and the Cold War,

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Speaker 1: both of them excellent excellent episodes we've done and you

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Speaker 1: can find them both at Stuff you Should Know dot com,

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Speaker 1: Slash Podcasts, slash archive. And we did a very special

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Speaker 1: television episode about the Private Space Race. So one of

904
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Speaker 1: our ten TV episode Stuff you Should Know featured John Hodgman. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And the gist of the episode is we are have

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Speaker 1: been invited to do some training for private space play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's bax and it's a fun episode. So you can

908
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Speaker 1: get that on iTunes and Google Play and or you

909
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Speaker 1: can stay up until four in the morning and watch

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Speaker 1: it on side. Maybe apparently they do show the late

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Speaker 1: night yeah, like regularly. Yeah cool for weird I'll have

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Speaker 1: to watch those. Uh. If you already said all that,

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Speaker 1: I think it's time, buddy for listening, ma'am. Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna call this, uh breastfeeding from Becky. Hey, guys, I'm

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Speaker 1: a newer fan. I'm so glad to found y'all. I

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Speaker 1: discovered your shows while looking for ways to spend the

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Speaker 1: vast amount of free time I have during my day.

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Speaker 1: Now my husband I just had our first child, Penelope.

919
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Speaker 1: Do you have free time? Well, you know, raising the

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Speaker 1: kid not free. I wouldn't call it free time. I agree. Um,

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Speaker 1: I've discovered that breastfeeding is very time consuming. I think

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Speaker 1: she means while she's breastfeeding is not a lot of use.

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Speaker 1: Basically forced to sit around for long stretches of time

924
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Speaker 1: and able to do anything besides think, read, or listen

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Speaker 1: to podcasts. I feel as if our daughters already leaps

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Speaker 1: and bounds ahead of all the other four month olds

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Speaker 1: out there. This is a while ago, so she's even

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Speaker 1: older than that. She's been educated about how meth and

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Speaker 1: crack cocaine, work, sign language, human cannonballs, the amputation, castration,

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Speaker 1: diplomatic community, etcetera. The list is growing longer as we

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Speaker 1: worked through the archives. Made me wonder if you ever

932
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Speaker 1: thought about doing a show on breastfeeding. I thought at

933
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Speaker 1: first it would be a super weird experience, but I've

934
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Speaker 1: come to really be fascinated by the process. And let's

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Speaker 1: be honest, it's something with which the vast majority of

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Speaker 1: humans have had firsthand experience. So we didn't do breastfeeding

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Speaker 1: doing No, we totally should that. That's a great suggestion

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Speaker 1: as a huge hornet's nest too. Oh yeah, yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: let's step right into it. Let's do it. That's from

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Speaker 1: Becky Breastfeeding Becky. Thank you, Becky, Thanks Becky. Uh. If

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Speaker 1: you want to suggest an episode, we are always up

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Speaker 1: for that. We love great suggestions like Becky's. You can

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