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Speaker 1: Hey there everybody. It is Saturday, April fourth, and we

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Speaker 1: still do not know the fate nor whereabouts of a

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Speaker 1: US service member shot down in Iran yesterday. With that,

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Speaker 1: welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Wanted to

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Speaker 1: give you a quick update on what we've been seeing

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Speaker 1: in Iran. And all eyes robes, all thoughts, all efforts

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Speaker 1: right now really are about finding this missing US service member.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there is literally a race to find this airmen.

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Speaker 2: We know that one missing crew member was immediately rescued

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Speaker 2: or with relatively quickly was rescued within Iran after that

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Speaker 2: F fifteen fighter jet was shot down by Iranian missiles,

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Speaker 2: and so yes, this other airman is.

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Speaker 3: Now somewhere unknown.

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Speaker 2: There has been a massive effort to try and find

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Speaker 2: this airman there. It's believed to have crashed in a

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Speaker 2: mountain region. This is near the borders of Kuwait in Irq.

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Speaker 2: It's described as basically southern Iran. But it's pretty difficult

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Speaker 2: to rain and so there's a lot to try and

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Speaker 2: figure out. But there are systems in place the military,

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Speaker 2: the Air Force prepares for situations, scary situations just like this,

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Speaker 2: and certainly a tremendous amount of effort has been going

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Speaker 1: And this is not the first time that an F

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Speaker 1: eighteen fighter has gone down in this war with Iran,

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Speaker 1: but it's the first time one's been shot down by Iran.

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Speaker 1: If a lot of people will remember ropes, I think

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Speaker 1: it might have been the first week even that we

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Speaker 1: had three F fifteen e's go down with friendly fire.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people might.

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Speaker 3: Remember that, yeah, in Kuwait.

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Speaker 2: So yes, this marks the first time a US aircraft,

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Speaker 2: a fighter jet, has been taken down by enemy fire

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Speaker 2: and has crashed in enemy territory. So right now we

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Speaker 2: know that these aircraft, these F fifteen's, have emergedency locator beacons,

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Speaker 2: so that beams up to a satellite immediately following a crash,

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Speaker 2: or even a pilot ejects so that planes helicopters can

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Speaker 2: pinpoint the exact location where the crash happened. Now we've

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Speaker 2: seen pieces of this crash site and pieces of this

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Speaker 2: fighter jet on social media because Iranians have already found

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Speaker 2: some of the records. So people know the US knows

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Speaker 2: and Iran knows where that aircraft crashed.

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Speaker 1: They know exactly almost where that plane went down. They

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Speaker 1: have obviously systems upon systems and redundancies to make sure

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Speaker 1: of these things. But this pilot, these still excuse me,

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Speaker 1: the pilot and the crew member. And to give you

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Speaker 1: an idea what we talked about here, folks, just think

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Speaker 1: the original top Gun Maverick and Goose. This is the

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Speaker 1: type of scenario we're talking about in the plane we're

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Speaker 1: talking about. This is a fifteen e latest generation of

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Speaker 1: a crew member sitting in the back of weapon specialist.

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Speaker 1: Now it's my understanding, Rope, it's the pilot who has

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Speaker 1: been recovered, and it's the service of the weapon special

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Speaker 2: Yes, that is what Actually, the BBC specifically referenced that

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Speaker 2: the missing airment is in fact a weapons system officer

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Speaker 2: and the pilot was the one who was rescued pretty

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Speaker 2: quickly after the crash happened.

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Speaker 1: And so we are talking about this one fighter jet

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Speaker 1: that went down. But we do need to mention here

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Speaker 1: that before we get into more details about this rescue

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Speaker 1: So robed yesterday Essentially, two US military aircraft were shut

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Speaker 1: shot down by Iran and shot down robes days after

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Speaker 1: the President and Hexseth told us iron essentially didn't have

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Speaker 1: the ability to do this.

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Speaker 2: Yes, both the President and Hexeth told us it was

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Speaker 2: pretty much impossible for what happened on Friday to have happened.

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Speaker 3: And yes, they shot down an A ten Warthog correct.

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Speaker 2: So this is one of the big planes that is

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Speaker 3: Fighter jet or even a helicopter.

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Speaker 2: They go in tandem oftentimes to make sure to protect

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Speaker 3: But it too was shot down.

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Speaker 2: Thankfully both of those or it was actually one pilot

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Speaker 2: the plane crashed in Kuwait, I believe.

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Speaker 3: So the good news is.

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Speaker 2: Even though we lost another plane, which is fairly humiliating

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Speaker 2: given what the rhetoric has been coming out of the

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Speaker 2: that search is just frantically underway right now.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to I mean, look, we've seen around on

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Speaker 1: but it's hard to understand what we think about the

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Speaker 1: size of this country. It is more than double the

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Speaker 1: size of Texas, is what we're talking about, and it's

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Speaker 1: more than twice the size of Texas. He's trying to

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Speaker 1: that's true, pay attention to it that often. Quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: no offense to weal asking. But there's just another place

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Speaker 1: a lot of us haven't been to. But just trying

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Speaker 1: this place is that right now, Robes, there's everybody knows

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Speaker 1: a Yes, it's war, but Robes, this is stuff we're

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Speaker 1: only used to seeing in movies. That's exactly what's playing out. Literally,

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Speaker 1: the movie is called Behind Enemy Lines, was it not?

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Speaker 1: With Owen Wilson. I mean, even in the last Tom

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Speaker 1: We've seen this scenario. That thing that is dramatized in

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Speaker 1: And there's a US service member scrambling and trying to

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Speaker 1: balance not being captured but also letting Americans know where

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Speaker 1: they might be. This is and this is a high

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you just gave me chills thinking about that scenario,

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Speaker 2: because yes, most of us picture a movie in our minds,

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Speaker 2: but this is happening right now. And look, these Air

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Speaker 2: Force pilots and the technicians with them train and prepare

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Speaker 3: They receive mandatory training.

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Speaker 2: It's called sir s er and it's survival, evasion, resistance,

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Speaker 2: and escape. And so they take this training, they say, repeatedly, periodically,

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Speaker 3: Head out on missions like this one.

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Speaker 2: So this airman has been trained sere Sorry sir, what

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Speaker 1: It's spelled s E r E.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's pronounced sorry I said sair here.

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Speaker 3: But yes, this is the training that they receive.

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Speaker 2: So the hope is that this airman, who is out

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Speaker 3: And look, this is interesting.

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Speaker 2: We are not hearing anything from the Pentagon, from Pete Hegseth,

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Speaker 2: from the President specifically about what's going on, But a

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Speaker 2: lot of folks in the military do know what happens

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Speaker 2: after a crash like this, and when there is a

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Speaker 2: Recovery Response, it begins and para rescue men known as

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Speaker 2: pj's step in. We're not getting official word that this

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Speaker 2: is happening, but the likelihood that you've got basically low level,

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Speaker 3: One thirties flying above as well.

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Speaker 2: Look, they are trying to find where this airman might be,

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Speaker 2: but they're also now knowing that Iran clearly has the

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Speaker 3: So this is a very dangerous and delicate operation.

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Speaker 1: So you have to put more service members, you have

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Speaker 1: to put more equipment in danger to go get one

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Speaker 1: You hear that sometimes nobody left behind. This is ever,

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Speaker 1: it's not just a matter of bringing somebody home and

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Speaker 1: bringing somebody home safely and preserving that American life. But

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Speaker 1: what's at stake now is what if what if this

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Speaker 1: the scenarios the analysts will tell you. If this person

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Speaker 1: they could not tell the world. If they don't tell

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Speaker 1: the world, that means they're using it secretly and behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes and negotiations to really try to get something

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Speaker 1: that ain't Iran. What they love doing is humiliating the

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Speaker 1: try to embarrass the United States and specifically Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: by saying, look, we got you, gad and using that

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Speaker 1: quite frankly, a lot of people will tell you robes.

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Speaker 1: Iran does well and has in its history and is

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Speaker 2: And that is what when you think about Iran, at

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Speaker 3: That was what we heard all the time.

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Speaker 2: I didn't I was old enough to really know all

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Speaker 2: mean that is just the two go together based on

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Speaker 3: So they know how to do this.

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Speaker 2: And look, Iran has told civilians to be on the

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Speaker 3: For the capture of the service members sixty around sixty

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Speaker 2: But they have, as you mentioned, been absolutely doing their

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Speaker 2: best to humiliate the United States on social media already,

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Speaker 2: even without having captured this hostage.

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Speaker 1: As we think about this awful Iranian regime, and then

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Speaker 1: it looks almost some times like our president took lessons

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Speaker 1: you can't prove and insult other folks. So it's interesting

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Speaker 1: to see someone who's the head of the Iranian parliament

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Speaker 3: On it like haha. Basically back at the United States, well,

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Speaker 3: when we come back, we will tell you what we

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Speaker 3: have heard from the White House.

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Speaker 2: As we mentioned, it's not been much, but certainly important

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Speaker 2: information coming from the President after this F fifteen fighter

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Speaker 1: Are folks we continue here on this Saturday, April fourth,

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Speaker 1: what is it six weeks now, we're.

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Speaker 3: Going into the six weeks, going into sixth week, six.

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Speaker 1: Week of the war, and really the story out of

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Speaker 1: the war today and what we should mention that strikes

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Speaker 1: do continue. Iran continues to strike, Israel continues to strike.

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Speaker 1: All that stuff seems to be going on. No, not

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Speaker 1: but certainly the war is still on. But the highlight

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Speaker 1: biggest headline right now is a US service member still missing,

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Speaker 2: And that does make a lot of sense. But it

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Speaker 3: Correct, They said we owned the skies, We owned the skies.

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Speaker 3: Nope, we're all good still. So it's been this war

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Speaker 1: You know, you've mentioned that it this lends less credibility

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Speaker 3: I actually have the dates and the quotes.

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Speaker 2: He said that on March twenty fourth, and then the

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Speaker 3: No anti aircraft systems.

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Speaker 2: They have no anti aircraft equipment, their radar is one

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Speaker 2: So when you say that the same week, and honestly,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that is a big question.

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Speaker 2: And look, the only thing we heard from the President

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Speaker 3: Isn't that true?

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Speaker 2: His silences speak louder than his natual words do oftentimes,

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Speaker 3: They understand what's at stake, and look.

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Speaker 1: These are these are these? I said this to you

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Speaker 3: This stuff is expensive.

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the equipment, but we talk about

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Speaker 2: Just thankfully our pilots know enough about how to eject

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Speaker 1: This is this is as high stakes as it gives.

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Speaker 1: But please keep this. Whatever you think about the Iran war,

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Speaker 1: Right now, it's you have this feeling of fighting right

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Speaker 1: That's where a lot of us are right now and

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I felt my heart racing just thinking about this,

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Speaker 2: bring you any new developments in the meantime, though, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for listening to us, every one. I'm

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Speaker 3: We will talk to you soon