1 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature Future production of I Heart Radio. I'm 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show, we're talking 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: about the cuts most adorable animals who love to murder. 5 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: I think so many animals are cute, so I've had 6 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: to really imagine, like, what is objectively speaking, the cutest 7 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: animals out there who also just love to kill. We're 8 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: talking about murderers with big old puppy eyes, murderers who 9 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: look like cute little bunny rabbits mixed, which Huah was, 10 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: and murderers who look completely inconspicuous, like something that snow 11 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: white would have land on her hand and then impale 12 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: her on a steak. Joining me today to talk about 13 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: this is producer, director, podcast host of Shooting Threes, and 14 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: my friend Jack Greenberg. Welcome, Hey, thank you for having 15 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: me talking about some cutie. Yes, we're going to talk 16 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: about some cuties. The inspiration for this is that you 17 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: mentioned to me that you love the blackfooted cat. I 18 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: love that little murderer. Yeah, we have talked about him 19 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: recently on the show, so I didn't want to do 20 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: a whole episode, uh with a minute, but I do 21 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: want to briefly go over, like, what do you find 22 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: so appealing about the black footed cat? As if I 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: need to ask? I mean, come on, I mean, I 24 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: mean it's obvious look at the little thing. But I've 25 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: been I've been spreading the gospel about this cat before 26 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: for for years now. I came out, I came across it, 27 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: and I've been telling people and and and he's blown 28 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: up recently, and I'm proud of him. I too, have 29 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: been talking about this little guy for years. So I 30 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: also feel like I like the blackfooted cat before he 31 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: was cool, but no gate keeping here. I loved that 32 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: now a big thing. No, no, I I think for 33 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: me it was Uh. There is a picture of him 34 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: looking real angry with just mutilated bird. Oh, I love, 35 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: that's my favorite one. I know exactly which photo you're 36 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: talking about. He's got like a birdie stuffed right in 37 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: his mouth and just in the body of a little 38 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: tiny cat who's like it's a wildcat, but it's like 39 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: half the size of a house cat. It's teeny tiny. 40 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: It's it's it's truly like kidens yes and looking and 41 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: it's it's the cutest thing. And I think I just 42 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: uh yeah, as a as a as someone on the 43 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: smaller scale of humans, I just I really appreciate that, like, uh, 44 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: you know, don't count these guys, right, they're athletes. Uh, 45 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: they're incredibly uh savvy, and they're dangerous. But also I 46 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: want one. Bridget is saying that she is dangerous and 47 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: loves murder. Dangerous. Yeah, I am not to be reckoned 48 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: with small people can be killers too. Don't judge a 49 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: book by Yeah, I'm really sick of people discounting me 50 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: and what I'm capable of. Uh. And it's and it's 51 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: extreme violence. Well, if it makes you feel better, I've 52 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: always kept one eye open with you around, Bridget, like 53 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: I've always thought maybe you know, yeah, like as as 54 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: someone who has no business uh and yells a lot 55 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: that I will fight people. Yeah, you've got a glint, 56 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: You've got you've got the glint in your eye, you know, 57 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: the one that the blackfooted cat has in that photo 58 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: with the bird stuffed in its mouth, that sort of murderous. 59 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: But you have that. Now, I don't think you would 60 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: ever murder anyone simply because I fail to see how 61 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: that would benefit you know, And uh, I've truly have 62 00:03:55,120 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: run away from fights that have happened for being honest, 63 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,839 Speaker 1: and I'd like to think I'm tough, and these these 64 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: tiny cubs make me believe that I could be tough. 65 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm proudly a whimp. I'll just say it right there. 66 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm I'm just I'm absolutely The fancy way to say 67 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: it is like, oh, I'm pore violence, but really I'm 68 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: a huge whimp. But it's great. Yeah, yeah, it's just when, yeah, 69 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: at some point you realize there's no way that it's 70 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: a good outcome for you right exactly to start it. 71 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: There's no yeah, to start it, to be a part 72 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: of it, to even be within like ten ft. But 73 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: I'll finish it. But I'll finish it, you know, finish 74 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: it by running away. I'm the kind of person. Yeah, 75 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm the kind of person where people are fighting near me. 76 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: Like if I'm at a concert, I will get sucked 77 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: into a mosh pit by like accident, like gravity just 78 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: like pulls the smallest person near it. I just have 79 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: to like, I just have to like excuse myself because 80 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm like I'm going to get I'm going to get 81 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: punched in the face, even though away my face, my 82 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: face is a magnet for stray balls. Okay, that sounds bad, 83 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: but I mean like like like people footballs, ping pong balls, baseballs, yeah, 84 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: get hit. Yeah, you know there are people by every 85 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: single type of sports related ball. It will happen. Yeah 86 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: they're there are people that are just like magnets. Uh 87 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: and yeah, they're generally like unassuming five ft four women 88 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: who are just like magnets for like just straight shit 89 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: falling on that right right. It's like it's like, you know, 90 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: like send me your errand projectiles. Yeah, and it will, Yeah, 91 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: it will land on me somehow. So I got to 92 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: excuse myself. But I like that these guys, they're they're brave, 93 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: they're yes, I love They're an inspiration really yeah really 94 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: on my dream board. I wish to be this murder someday. 95 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: So we are we are not talking about the blackfooted 96 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: cat as my which as I love them. We have 97 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: talked about the recently. I think I had I think 98 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: the pot. The title is like when the it's about 99 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: cat play. It's like when the cats play, when the 100 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: mouse is away, the cats will play, and it's got 101 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: I've got a cat expert on. We talked about cats. 102 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: I bring up the blackfooted cat. We talk about cat evolution. 103 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: It's good stuff. Check that out if you want to 104 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: hear more about the blackfooted cat. But we are talking 105 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: about some equally adorable animals who also just are absolutely 106 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: bloodthirsty and love killing. The first one is one of 107 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: my I say this so much, but it's always true. 108 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite animals. This is the car sire. Yeah, 109 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: they look like aliens. They yes, they have you know, 110 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: the it's it's the eyes. I do got to say. 111 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: It's the eyes. It's the eyes. It's the eyes, it's 112 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: their little weird e t hands. Yes. Yeah, they're adorable aliens. 113 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: I think cuter than they Yeah, especially the etz doesn't 114 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: have fur, He's just got the skin. So yeah, and 115 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: that was really where Steven Mr. Spielberg went wrong. But 116 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: these guys they got it right. They covered themselves and 117 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: fur like all animals I believe should right, I mean 118 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: we should also, I think that that was an oversight 119 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: for humanity. You know, we should just be um, which 120 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: makes makes it sound like I'm a furry, which no 121 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: offense to furies. I am not. However, I'm not even 122 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: talking about like an animal like human just Harry all over. 123 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, doesn't it essentially? Yeah, if 124 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: only it just makes everybody more approachable. Yeah, there we go, 125 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: So yes, depending on your perspective, Tarsiers are one of 126 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: the cutest or freakiest looking little animals out there. They 127 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: are a family, so multiple species of little itty bitty 128 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: primates owned in Indonesia, the Philippines, Malaysia, and Brunei. And yes, 129 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: they got gigantic eyeballs. They have mouth like ears. Different 130 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: species have different sized ears. Sometimes they're kind of little, 131 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: sometimes they're actually a little bigger, but they're always sort 132 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: of like these little mouse like ears. They've got long 133 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: fingers and toes those sort of their hands and their 134 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: feet are sort of like not quite how we you 135 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: know how primates have the sort of like hand feet 136 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: thing where it's like they kind of look like human hands, 137 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: kind of look almost like human feet. These are quite different, 138 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: so they're they're much more primitive. But their hands, just 139 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: like you said, they're et hands. They have really long, 140 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: spindly fingers, and yeah, like their knuckles are kind of bulbous, 141 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: and their toes are also really long and spindly, so 142 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: they kind of they actually look like frog feet. To me, 143 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: they they're like a hybrid of a mouse, a frog, 144 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: and a monkey with eyes the size of ping pong balls. Yeah, 145 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: that did a bunch of molly. They're raging right now. 146 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: And for our younger listeners, Molly is just a nice 147 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: person who likes to party. It's a nice lady. It's 148 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: a nice lady, you like. So they tend to be 149 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: very small. The largest species tend to grow around six 150 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: inches long or fifteen centimeters, with tails that are longer 151 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: than their bodies and spin leaf fingers. So that's not 152 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: that big. And those are the large those are the 153 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: big ones. Those are the big boys. Yeah, you got 154 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: like the little there's a little furby looking one that 155 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm guessing it's a smaller guy. Yeah, you want to 156 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: hear about the yeah. Yeah. The smallest species of tarsier 157 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: is the pigmy tars here found in Sulawesi, Indonesia, who 158 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: is about four three of four inches big, which is 159 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: like millimeters and weighs less than two grams. So that 160 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: is like literally just a palmful. Yeah, it's like six 161 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: paper clips. It's a little Yeah. I've got this picture 162 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: and it's just some dude holding one of these little guys. 163 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: He doesn't look particularly happy to be held. They don't 164 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: love me. Um, but yeah there's rage behind those eyes. Yeah, 165 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: behind those big glassy eyes. Yeah. We'll talk more about 166 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: that rage later. But like, yes, they don't like to 167 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: be handled. Um, buddy is just kind of like peek 168 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: it out from behind this guy's hand, go like what 169 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: the hell? Man, Yeah, put me, put me down. But 170 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: he's he's tiny and full of rage. Yeah, in which 171 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: those are my favorite companies. I mean again telling on 172 00:10:55,520 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: yourself here. So yeah, yeah, so about those huge eyeballs. 173 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: Their eyes are so large they are often bigger than 174 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: their brains. Their eyeballs are bigger than their whole entire brain, 175 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: like a Pixar character. I feel like that's a weird 176 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: disc to Pixar, Like your character's eyes are bigger than 177 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: their brains. It's like, I mean, I just think of 178 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: like Baby Dory where I like saw that they got 179 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: a ratio wrong here. Yeah, that's absolutely true. Yeah, when 180 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: you look at there's you know those like things where 181 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: they people take popular cartoon characters and do a fake 182 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: like skeleton of them, Like here's a skeleton or Pikachu 183 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: or Garfield or whoever, And it always looks like really 184 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: funky because the actual internal anatomy of a cartoon would 185 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: look weird. Yeah, yeah, it's head would like topple it. 186 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: The uh the skull of a tar sere looks made up. 187 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: It does not look it looks like one of these 188 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: like look skulls. Yeah, it looks like a pokemon. It does. 189 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: It's it's eye socket. It's like, so why are their 190 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: eyes so disconcerting? Lee huge? So while they seem like 191 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: the cutest, most harmless of the primates, they are the 192 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: only living species of primate that is entirely carnivorous. Yeah, yeah, 193 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: those are carnivorous, little tiny teeth. So other primates tend 194 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: to be omnivorous, herbivorous, or frugivorous, frugivorous for frugivorous either 195 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 1: anyway you want to say, you know, however, I'm feelings. 196 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: But the tar Seer family are nocturnal predators, killers who 197 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: lurk in the night. So there are nocturnal predators like 198 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: wildcats who do not have these are tunishly huge googly eyes. 199 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: So what the heck is going on? I imagine you asking, yes, 200 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: what the heck is going on? Thank you for asking, 201 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: Thank you for asking. So tar sears don't have a 202 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: tipetum lucidum. So the tupeedum lucidum is a reflective layer 203 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: behind the retina that you see in a lot of 204 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: nocturnal or crepuscular animals. So nocturnal means you're active at night. 205 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: Crepuscular means you're active at donn and dusk, so twilight. 206 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: So these are animals like cats, raccoons, deer, dogs, and 207 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: many more. And that's why when you look at your 208 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: kitty cat at night it's got those glowing demonic eyes. 209 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: Has nothing to do with their deal with Satan. It's 210 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: all that tapedum lucidum that is behind the retina that 211 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: is reflected. It's like a mirror, a biological mirror that 212 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: reflects light back outwards. I was just assuming that was 213 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: them trying to be cuter for right, But alright, alright, 214 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: try hard cats, Yeah yeah yeah. But by reflecting light, 215 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: the tapetum lucinum essentially doubles the amount of light hitting 216 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: the photosensitive cells on the retina, so that light hits 217 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: the photosensitive cells like your rods and cones, mostly rods 218 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: for night vision. Um it hits the rods going in, 219 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: and then it gets reflected back out and hits them again. 220 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: So you're you're actually doubling like the amount of light 221 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: you're getting in your eye just by having this reflective layer. 222 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: It's really clever. Yeah, no, they just got I'm just 223 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: like staring at this thing. It's the strangest looking skull 224 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Right, and so for these guys, right, uh, 225 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: this is how. This is how a cat is able 226 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: to have eyeballs, have night vision, that reflective layer without 227 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: having huge, ping pong eyeballs. Like imagining a cat with 228 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: the size of these eyeballs is kind of funny and 229 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: a little scared. But but humans and primates do not 230 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: have the tupedum lucidum. They don't have this. We don't 231 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: have this reflective layer. So but wouldn't it be cool. 232 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: It would be very cool. We could have shiny eyes 233 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: in the night and like. But this is including the 234 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: tarsier family. So tarsiers don't have that reflective layer so 235 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: to be able to see well enough at night to 236 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: precisely locate and catch prey. Instead of this clever mirror trick, 237 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: they just big old eyeballs big old eyeballs. That was 238 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: just make them big, just make them, just make them big. Yeah, 239 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: that's kind of have a camera lens work, so they 240 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: just got like a full Yeah. Yeah, that is funny 241 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: where it's like how do you get like with a 242 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: telescope or camera lens, it's like how do you get 243 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: get it to see better at night or distances? Is 244 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: like make it bigger, make it longer, make it bigger. Yea, yeah, yeah, 245 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: that that is interesting. Like your your experience as a filmmaker, 246 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: how do you have you ever shot stuff at nighttime? Yeah, 247 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: they're there are cameras that are that they make that 248 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: are specifically good at shooting in low light, and it 249 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: kind of the sensor on the lens kind of works 250 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: in a similar way where they just they technology has 251 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: figured out how to make these sensors as big as possible. Yeah, exactly, 252 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: And so I mean it makes it makes the camera 253 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: super sensitive when you move it, you have to adjust 254 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: a lot. But yeah, yeah, it's it's the same thing. 255 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: If you look at the center of the camera, it's 256 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: just like a massive little mirror inside. Yeah. That's amazing. 257 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: I mean I got two of them. Yeah, And that's 258 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: interesting because like, yeah, so, because their eyes are so 259 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: sensitive and there's just so much eyeball, a huge portion 260 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: of their brain, which again is outsized by their actual eyeballs, 261 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: is developed to visual processing. So they've got these brains 262 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: and a lot of it is for visual processing. You 263 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: got your hardware, which is your your eyeballs, and then 264 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: the software has to process all that data. Uh and actually, yeah, 265 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: they got such tiny little skull brains. I know where 266 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: does that brain fit in there? I don't I don't 267 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: even know where. It's a little brain, big guys, little brain. God, 268 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: that's the life, isn't it? Just big old eyes but 269 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: tiny little brains heavenly taking everything. Don't think about any 270 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: of it? Right? That sounds exactly horrifying, But yeah, so, 271 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: So in their eyeballs, like I mentioned earlier, rods, We 272 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: have rods and cones. So those are the generally the 273 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: two types of photosensitive cells in our retina's um. Rods 274 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: do not do much in terms of seeing color. They 275 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: are really good though, in low light conditions at picking 276 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: up on very dim light. So the tar sears don't 277 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: see much in terms of color. Their vision is optimized 278 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:09,239 Speaker 1: for nighttime seeing, and so they can pick up on 279 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: their prey. Also fun fact they can move their heads 280 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: a hundred and eighty degrees in either direction, allowing them 281 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: three sixty degree vision. Whoa okay, twist and they're like 282 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: they have owl next. Yeah, yeah, so's they got bend necks. 283 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: They got bendy necks. They're creepy, little bloodthirsty goblins. I 284 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: love them. Oh my god, that would be so to 285 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: just watch one of these things with these big just 286 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: slowly one eight at you. Yeah, show those those crazy 287 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: predator teeth. That would make The Exorcist like way cuter, 288 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:53,239 Speaker 1: just like I wanna. Yeah, I'm going to remake it 289 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: with these guys. You, your mother, your other sex butts 290 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: in hell. Yeah, I'd be okay if they If one 291 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: of these guys told me that, Yeah, if one of 292 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: these guys was like a little demon, I'm I'm you 293 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: know what, alright, it sign me up for demons. If 294 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: these are what demons are, So that's what they are. 295 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: The Tar series hunting strategy is to stay as still 296 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: as possible, staring into the night, watching for the movement 297 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: of prey, listening with their big ears there independently moving ears, 298 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: trying to pinpoint where their little prey is rustling, staring 299 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: with their huge eyes, standing still as a statue until 300 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: they pounce on their victim from over six feet away 301 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: or two meters. They are incredible leapers as well. There's legs, 302 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 1: very springy. So just like this, I mean, we think 303 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: they're cute, but if you're like a little a little 304 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: guy sharing their territory, someone who would be their prey, 305 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: it's just this huge eyed goblin that's like this gargoyle 306 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: doesn't move and swivel its head like basically three sixty 307 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: degrees and then as soon as it spots you literally 308 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: like flings itself at you. That's truly gargoyles. Yeah, they're 309 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: just like perched in a tree waiting. Still. I love gargoyles. 310 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: I've gotten the opportunity to see some like gargoyles at 311 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: like old churches, and they're they're such they're they're not 312 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: really actually scary. Usually they're usually super goofy, they're goose, 313 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: and yeah, I for some reason I was thinking about gargoyles, 314 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: and I was like, what a strange thing we've done 315 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: to protect our buildings. Not a strange made up but 316 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: I guess we didn't these guys are truly tiny gargoyles. 317 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: Look at even their ears are grimlin stuff. Yeah. So 318 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: they mostly eat insects or arthropods, so like spiders, insects, anything, 319 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: but they will also make a snack out of bats, birds, snakes, 320 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: and lizards. Whoa So I mean, because I was wondering, 321 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: I was like, they you know, they're the size of 322 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: a small rat. It's not like they can like, oh 323 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: so they'll they'll take something down their own size big Yeah, anything, 324 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 1: anything just slightly smaller than them, they will. If they 325 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: can pounce on it and fit it in their mouth, 326 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: then it's it's food. Then good for them, Yes, good 327 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: for them. These are real you know, like boss boss 328 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: bays taking control of the situation. You know, you're little, 329 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: but you can still you know, massacre even smaller animals. Yeah. Yeah, 330 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: so it's just like a stealth attack. They just like 331 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: jump off these things and start shredding, crunching, big crunch, Yeah, 332 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: I mean it is. It is inspirational, right, no matter 333 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: how small you are, there's always someone smaller you can 334 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: fit in your mouth and just crunch down on It's 335 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: it's it's good to know it's good. So it's good 336 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: today or even your own sash pick on people their 337 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: own side. You know, if you can do it, if 338 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: you can get if you can get a biden, you 339 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: can get a biden. You know what I mean. Anything 340 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: is food. They can't be much bigger than the birds 341 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: that they're taking down, some of them. I mean, like 342 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think generally speaking, they would take 343 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: down smaller birds. Um like you know they're they're I mean, 344 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: because they are out there are small birds, you know, 345 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: and I think like in a lot of bird masks 346 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: sometimes it's just feathers, so like you get sort of 347 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, you can get right. So the tarsiers themselves 348 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: are quite small, and they are prey two larger predators. However, 349 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: they will not go down without a fight. Some species 350 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: of tarsiers formed these small family groups. But then when 351 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: they're threatened, they will join with other family groups to 352 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: ward off the predators. So they will join forces and 353 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: all shriek and scream and like try to drive away predators. 354 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: It's fantastic, that's incredible. I was hoping they would become 355 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: like a little tarsier transformer kind of like create a 356 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: big yeah, just like pile off top become a big one. 357 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: To fight. But that's cool too. No shrieking is all 358 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:45,959 Speaker 1: tarsier shape of bigger tarsier. Just fight together. Yeah, just 359 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: like little falling off as they get punched by like 360 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: the other animal. But I love the teamwork. Yeah, teeth 361 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: made out of ever smaller tar series. Yeah no, it's wonderful. 362 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: Teamwork makes the dream work. Ye so earlier, Like I 363 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: mentioned that they do not like to be handled. These 364 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: are I feel like for anyone who's like an introvert, 365 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: these guys are truly like you know, kindred spirits, So 366 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: they are so specifically adapted for their environment. They absolutely 367 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: cannot survive or be bred in captivity. Uh. Their eyes 368 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: and ears are so sensitive, they don't tolerate light, loud sounds, 369 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: and they hate being handled. Uh. In captivity, they will 370 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: sometimes throw themselves against the walls of their enclosure and distress, 371 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: which can be fatal. So, like, you know, leave them alone, 372 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: leave them alone. They're good on their own. They can 373 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: handle themselves. I do. It's hard not to pick them up. 374 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: I know they are adorable, but just know when you 375 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,959 Speaker 1: pick them up, they are they want to murder you 376 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: if they if they could murder you in that moment, 377 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: they would do it without hesitation. Like we joke about 378 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: that with cats, but it's not really true. Like our 379 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: house cats. It's like, ah, you want to murder me, 380 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,959 Speaker 1: but not really. They like you. They want to have 381 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: the food you give them. They like the cuddles. These 382 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: little guys. I'm a hundred percent confident if we could 383 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 1: get in their brains and they see you coming at 384 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: them trying to cuddle them, making a kissy face, they're 385 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: like thinking, like, murder, murder, murder, murder, murder, murder, attack 386 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: your face. They don't Yeah, they don't need you to 387 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: give them food. They love the hunt, they love the Yes, 388 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: they thrive on it. They just they just love killing. 389 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: It's fun. Yeah, and that's all they need. Leave them 390 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,959 Speaker 1: alone in the jungle to kill right exactly and their 391 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: best life murdering snakes hashtag blessed, hashtag murder life, hashtag 392 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: tiny gremlins. Onto another murderous cutie bridget. The world is 393 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: full of the cutest animals who love to kill stuff. 394 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: So I want to talk about one of the cutest 395 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: foxes in the world, the Finnic fox. Now, these guys, 396 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: these guys are I think these are relatively well known. 397 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: Probably if you're a listener, you've seen one of these guys. 398 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: So these are the little foxes, kind of like sandy 399 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: colored with the big old ears. So they are found 400 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: in the deserts of northern Africa. They are the smallest 401 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: of the Canads, Canaids being a family that includes dogs, wolves, jackals, 402 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: and foxes, so smallest fox, smallest Canad. They're little, teeny 403 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: tiny guys. So they grow to be around fifteen inches 404 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: long or forty centimeters not including their tail, and way 405 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: around two to four pounds, so one or two kims, 406 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: little little babies. It's all ears. Yeah. Yeah, their ears 407 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: are actually bigger than their heads. Sometimes they're like half 408 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: the size of their bodies. They look like fluffy Chiwalla bunnies. Yeah, 409 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: that's a good way of putting it. I don't know 410 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: how they hold these guys out, but it's cute. They 411 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: have the largest ear to body ratio of any canad, 412 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: so uh they are. It just makes what is it 413 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: about big old ears that is so cute? I you know, 414 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. You you wouldn't think it, but like, 415 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, these guys are really working it in particular, 416 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: really do with their cute little foxy face. Uh, it works, 417 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: it just works, it off. It's a good fit. And yeah, 418 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: so like they have um these also little fuzzy tufted footsies, tootsies, 419 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: little people that protect their blue paws from the hot 420 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: desert sand. Just like just absolute cuteness. Yeah, I they are. 421 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: It's like you don't remember the Avatar animal this series, 422 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: Not the Blue Blue People Avatar, but the yeah you know, yeah, 423 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: the Airbender Avatar. They had that little that little thing 424 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: Momo with a huge ears kind of like I don't know, 425 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: kind of similar vibes, not quite. I guess Momo was 426 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: more of a lemur thing. But these got just the 427 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: big the big ears are so big ears and on 428 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: and on any pet. The ears are one of my 429 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: favorite things to play. Yes, yes, uh, and I think 430 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: that's what it is. I bet they're real soft. You 431 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: should probably shouldn't touch them, but I bet they have 432 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: the softest ear I would imagine, yes, yeah, my dog, 433 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: like I really yeah, get getting the scratches on my 434 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: dog ear my dog's ears. It's like these ears are 435 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: just like little cuddle zones. I love them. I love them. 436 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: I wonder what these guys look like wet well, I 437 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: can tell you bridget they should not get what they 438 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: would hate it because yeah, they live in a desert. 439 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: They do not love water. They don't swim really, they 440 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: do not want to really be around bodies of water. 441 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: In fact, they don't even really need to drink that 442 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: much water. Most of the hydration they get is from 443 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: the juices of their victims, so they love killing. They 444 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: will eat small mammals, lizards, birds, get gos. But they'll 445 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: also eat eggs. They'll even eat root vegetables, so they're 446 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: quasi omnivorous. But they but they absolutely love to kill stuff. 447 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: Um but yeah, because water is so scarce in their 448 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: desert environment, they all most of their hydration comes from 449 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: the blood and the guts of the things they kill. Yeh, 450 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: good for them, Just straight lizard gatorade, right, yeah, cool 451 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: and refreshing. Can you imagine like a little coach one 452 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: of these fedix foxes as a coach and then like 453 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: wins the game and they just put dump a big, 454 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: like frothy thing of like lizard guts on lizards. Yeah, alright, 455 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: let's take a break. Everyone gets some lizard guts, So 456 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: let's let's go back to those ears for a minute, though, 457 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: those what are those massive ears doing? Are they flying 458 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: around like planes? I wish so ears actually served two functions. 459 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: One is to actually keep them cool in the desert heat, 460 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: and the other is to stock and locate victims no 461 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: matter where they try to hide. So the obvious use 462 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: of these ears is being sensitive to hearing prey. So 463 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: they can hear arthropods or rodents moving under the sand, 464 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: like buried under the sand, and once they've pinpointed their prey, 465 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: they will find exactly where they are under that stand 466 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: rapid you dig them up and then before they've known it, 467 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: it's it's a murder. I would love to watch it 468 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: dig I bet it's really cute watching them just digging 469 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: the sand, uh, for murdering purposes. But it was a 470 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: little pause, just like here I go, I'm gonna murder. 471 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: That would drive me crazy. Like imagine hearing everything moving 472 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: underneath the ground. It's good for them, but like if 473 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: it's I think even if it's all food, like imagine 474 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: being like full and being like still here, I mean 475 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: my food moving. That's the thing though, when you're in this, 476 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: when you're a little guy, you gotta wrapid metabolism and 477 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: you live in this desert environment, like you, you were 478 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: always hungry, always hungry for murder. So yeah, yeah, so 479 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: they be paranoid. So yeah, but yeah, imagine if you 480 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: could hear, like just to hear a burger scuttle around 481 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: and you're like, I'm gonna get that burger. Yeah. So, 482 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: large ears also means a large surface area where blood 483 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: vessels can spread out and meet the air, which cools 484 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: down the blood as it circulates into the body, so 485 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: it's actually a built in blood conditioner. This is a 486 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: common technique that animals will use to cool down in 487 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: hot environments. So like Gerboa's, which are adorable little like mice. 488 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: They look like little mice that have like kangaroo legs 489 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: and giant ears. They're so cute. African hairs also have 490 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: just gigantic ears. And even when you think about it, 491 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: elephants like those big ears. In addition to being able 492 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: to kind of fan them around, like, that surface area 493 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: allows the blood to cool and get recirculated back into 494 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: the elephants, so it helps keep them cool. That is 495 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: so yeah. I mean, it never fails to like amaze 496 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: me how smart evolution is and the body is and 497 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: like these little tricks. Um, it's like all improv babies play, 498 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: like what if we made Yeah, what if we just 499 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: like really stretched out the ears so they can feel 500 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: the breeze. Yeah, it's it's not even that though. You 501 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: just get a you get a dumbo born one generation 502 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: and then like dumbos like huh, I feel actually really good, 503 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: really cool, and he makes more dumbos and the ladies. Yeah, 504 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: I mean it makes Yeah, I mean it makes sense 505 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: because like I guess, like when you're hot and you're 506 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: just like starfish in bed spread out. Yes, these guys 507 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: are smart. Ears. Squirrels do that sometimes too, to like 508 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: dissipate heat, like where they kind of spread out, and 509 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: it's yeah, I've seen. It's got an actual name. You 510 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: want to know what it is? What is it called spouting? 511 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: No way? Yeah, I remember the Yeah. The first time 512 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: I was amazed. I I saw a squirrel just like 513 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: fully lying on the top of a park bench in 514 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: the middle of the summer, and it was the first 515 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: time I had ever seen anything like that, and I 516 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: was like, are you okay, little buddy. He's like, just 517 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: own business. Just sluten leave melt, leave me alone. Splutin off. 518 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: I can't believe that that really feels like something the 519 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: Internet came up with it, so wild gluten ears so 520 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 1: Fannick foxes are also pretty cute in their social lives. 521 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,959 Speaker 1: They live in family groups in the den uh and 522 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: that is adorable. They do actually hunt alone though, like 523 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: when when they're out murdering, they do it on their own. Um, 524 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: they don't want their family to see it, right, you're 525 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: too young to see this, junior and then just ripping 526 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 1: the head off of something. But you know, they actually 527 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: will take on prey larger than themselves. They are that 528 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: for the dedicated to the cause of murdering things. So 529 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: they will sometimes like pick out a rabbit and rabbits 530 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: can actually be larger than them. These like hairs will 531 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: be bigger than the Finnic fox and they're like, I 532 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: could eat it. I could do that. That's that's a 533 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: family dinner. That's that's smart. They know a rabbit probably 534 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 1: doesn't have like can't hurt them. It's bigger than them, 535 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: but it probably can't hurt them. Well, it's not necessarily true, though, 536 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: rabbits and hairs will viciously fight back if they can, 537 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: like they have massive hind legs that can really like 538 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: actually shred and tear. Um. So like they are just 539 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: they will defend themselves. I just had an image, yeah, fair, 540 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: I just had an image of like a rabbit trying 541 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: to like back kick one of these things, just like 542 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: flying through the air. Yeah, so truly, Like it sounds 543 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: like fighting a rabbit. That's like that's punching down. But 544 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: I could fight a rabbit a rabbit. I can fight 545 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: a rabbit two rabbits. Yeah, But you know I love 546 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: the toughness, Yes, I love I Yeah, I love that 547 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:17,439 Speaker 1: size doesn't matter that there. Yeah, these are tough little guys. Yeah, 548 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 1: they've got like they've got like big big guy energy, 549 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: but in a little guy. And that's what we love 550 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: to say, that's what we love. So unfortunately, because they 551 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 1: are so cute, people do try to keep them as pets. Um. Yeah, 552 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: so I get it. I definitely sympathize with wanting one 553 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: of these as a pet because, like I mean, cute, 554 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: so cute. Look at it, look at it. It's so cute. 555 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: I want to want I don't know, I want to 556 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: scratch its little ears. I want to carry it around 557 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: the house making airplane noises, going you're like, but I 558 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: don't do that with why the animals. Let me present 559 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,760 Speaker 1: to you just a case against keeping them as pets. 560 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: Here's a few reasons. First one is they smell like 561 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: Satan's butthole. They're peace highly highly potent. They have very 562 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 1: stinky concentrated urine because they use that in the wild 563 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: to mark their territory. And in addition, and also they're 564 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: not drinking a lot of water, right, it's very concentrated, 565 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: very stinky. Good point. Also, they like to roll around 566 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: in their own piss, so you also we mentioned earlier 567 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: they don't like water, so they roll around in their 568 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: own piss. And it's really not recommended that you give 569 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: them baths because they get very stressed out. So you're 570 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: gonna have like this piss covered reeking animal who if 571 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: you try to bathe can give them like a panic 572 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: attack and can be dangerous. So like, ah, yeah, it's 573 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: not a great situation. It's like a newborn baby, I imagine, 574 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: slightly less hard than a newborn baby. Yes, so they 575 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: are not demn yes yeah um, and hopefully your newborn 576 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: baby is not rolling around in its own piss for 577 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: very long h Yeah, it seems unavoidable at a certain age. 578 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: But right right on this show, we're strongly anti child neglect. 579 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, the Finnic foxes are not domesticated. They love hunting. 580 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: They have an omnivorous diet that is very difficult to 581 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: replicate um dogs and cats. Like you may be thinking, like, well, 582 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,720 Speaker 1: they're carnivores. Well, they have lived with us for thousands 583 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 1: and thousands of years to the point where their metabolism 584 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 1: has evolved to be able to eat much more of 585 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 1: our human food such that we can make these like 586 00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: kibble formulations, like we've figured out the diet for well 587 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: maybe not a percent figured out, but like, uh, you know, dogs, 588 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 1: for instance, have gained the ability to digest grain, which 589 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: their ancestors lacked, so and they can have a little 590 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 1: piece as a treat. They can have a little piece 591 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: of salami, but only as a treat, and they can 592 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 1: you know, they can eat some grain. They are still 593 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: they still require meat and proteins. Same with cats, like 594 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,720 Speaker 1: cats need meat and protein, but dogs especially have developed 595 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: the ability to digest more grain than their ancestors. Cats 596 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: are a little less. Cats didn't really change that much 597 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 1: in terms of their dietary needs compared to the untapable, 598 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 1: but dogs definitely have. Uh. Finnic foxes have not been 599 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: domesticated at all, so they're metabolism has not adapted to 600 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: any aspect of a human diet. So you need to 601 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: feed it live insects, live rodents. Uh. You also need 602 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: to do like vegetables. I've like looked at like some 603 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: of these things where like people recommend you feed them 604 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: live baby birds. First of all, I don't know how 605 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: you source that. I don't know where you get them. Um, yeah, 606 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 1: you gotta trapper and also blood everywhere, but everywhere. Again 607 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: they love murdering. Um, so yeah, you wouldn't have to 608 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: be cool with like having your pet like do a 609 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: murder spree every day and like with a side of salad. 610 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: Like that's like that's what your diet is, with a 611 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 1: nice little yeah, with a nice little house salad. Right, 612 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: I'll have the grotesque murder rip a baby bird's head 613 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,919 Speaker 1: clean off its shoulders. Um, and like could I could 614 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: I get some rugula just on the side, right? I 615 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: I just imagine like these people like they're like, oh, 616 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: I gotta leave my house for two hours a day, 617 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 1: said a little bird free in my house? Leave for 618 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: two hours come back to crime scene, right right. I 619 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: don't ask questions. I just let it happen. Yeah, I 620 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: just let a bird loosen my house and see what happens. Also, 621 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 1: if you have one of these guys, you should really 622 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: fill your house with sand. Uh. They love burrowing, I 623 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 1: love scrap digging up sand. So really, to give it 624 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,760 Speaker 1: its best life, you would want to fill room with sand, 625 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 1: put some live insects in there, maybe some scorpions, baby birds, tubers, lamps. Yes, 626 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,720 Speaker 1: and deal with an animal that smells like super piss 627 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: poops in the house and who screams constantly like this 628 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 1: is what they sound like. Oh wow, so imagine that, don't. Yeah, 629 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,760 Speaker 1: leave these guys alone. The potent odor of the pungent 630 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: and potent odor of piss, rewear, dead animals, poop um. 631 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: Not a pet, I'm gonna that's my verdict. Not no, 632 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 1: not a pet. Looks like a pet. Not a pet. 633 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: Not a pet, which is which is the hardest thing 634 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: for people to wrap their head around. Hard. I get it. 635 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: I want to. I get it too. I want to. 636 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: I want to, I really want to cuddle it. Yet 637 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: I want to give one of these guys a nice poop, 638 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 1: right like I want to dress in little sweaters and 639 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: called Benjamin and be like, come on, come, Benjamin, we 640 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 1: we must go to the market for your fresh baby birds. 641 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: They definitely are the kind of like pet where they 642 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: don't you know, if it's names Chris, it goes by Christopher. 643 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: They go by the full Yeah, they go by the 644 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 1: full name. They're distinguished. Imagine it in a bow type 645 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: but don't. Yeah, well you can imagine. I'm not gonna 646 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: you can imagine it, just just yeah, imagine it. Don't 647 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 1: put it in a bow tie. I'm not the tyrant 648 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: of your imagination. I encourage you to imagine it in 649 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: a time, but if you try to make that a reality, 650 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be you know, kind of imagine you'll lose 651 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: a finger. Yeah, and apparently their teeth are super super sharp. 652 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: They're like little razors, so like you know how like 653 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: puppy teeth are actually weirdly sharper than Yeah, it's like that, 654 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: but even worse. So like they there bots are apparently 655 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: very bloody and painful. So you know, let's just let's 656 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: seems like a bad pete. Yeah, let's have like an 657 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: imaginary one as our pet, like and imagine it and 658 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: put a little bit of stuffed animal. Yeah, look at 659 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: some pictures and get a stuff. Imagine the smell of concentrated, 660 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: dehydrated piss like in your in your mind. Oh, you 661 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 1: can tell. These guys look like stinky, little stinkers. They're 662 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 1: a little stink guys and they love it. You can 663 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: tell they love it, the little around in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 664 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: you just gotta let them be them. We gotta see them. 665 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: They're so I'm assuming their ears like moved back and 666 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: forth and they don't really like down. Yeah, they don't 667 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: get Yeah. Yeah, it's the full it's it's it's the 668 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:21,399 Speaker 1: full range of cute and horrible grimlin goblin mode. Like yeah, 669 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: absolutely definition of goblin mode. It would kill me to 670 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: see them have like sad, floppy ears, you know. Well, yeah, 671 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: I saw I saw a video of one getting bathed 672 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,439 Speaker 1: and it had like its ears were like pinned back 673 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: and it looked miserable, and it's like, don't bathem little 674 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:44,800 Speaker 1: be stinky. He doesn't bathe them wild if you like, 675 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: that's the thing. If you're going to get one of 676 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: these as a pet, you've got to commit to the 677 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 1: stinky lifestyle. The goblin mode you got to commit to 678 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 1: stink life. Yeah, and you're also gonna stinky. You're gonna 679 00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 1: smell like your house is gonna smell. Yeah. Yeah, I 680 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 1: don't think I I don't you know, these guys can 681 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 1: commit distinct life. I don't think humans should, right, right, 682 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,320 Speaker 1: But if like again, like you, you will smell like 683 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 1: piss and you should accept that. Yeah, what a good message. Yeah, 684 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: leave these guys alone, m smell like yeah, yeah, let 685 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 1: him smell like piss. Let them let them fight bigger animals. 686 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 1: Uh and and and stay in their families and screen 687 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: and like juice box a lizard, suck a lizard up 688 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, exactly, just full caprice, crush it like 689 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,439 Speaker 1: a gatorade bottle and wease all those guts in there. 690 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 1: I love them, I love I love its little tail, 691 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: and it's big ears and it's cute little nose. Bridget. 692 00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: We are onto perhaps the most Stevia say animal in 693 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 1: the world. It is. Yeah, what a little ball. Yeah. 694 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: I think I may have talked about these dudes on 695 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: the show before, but let's talk about them again because 696 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: it's been quite a while, and holy moly, they're the 697 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 1: most insidious, demented Jigsaw killer level murderers out there, and 698 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 1: they are adorable. So the sweet little birdie bird, can 699 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:31,479 Speaker 1: you describe it, Bridget, Yeah, I mean I can kind 700 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,800 Speaker 1: of tell there's some evil behind those eyes. Um and 701 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, it's it's like a pigeon. But if 702 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 1: a pigeon was like a cute little ball, tiny little 703 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 1: ball pigeon with a very erroow dynamic looking tail, which 704 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,320 Speaker 1: I imagine helps them. But the thing, they're very cute, 705 00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:00,479 Speaker 1: They're tiny. It's like a little bird ball, a little 706 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: bird ball. But I immediately do not trust it because 707 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 1: and I have a I have a feeling this is 708 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 1: going to come up. It does have a beak that 709 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:15,359 Speaker 1: comes around, uh into like a very sharp point. Uh 710 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: and that Yeah, it has like this weird little curved beak, 711 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: the tiniest all curved beak you've ever seen. Maybe that's 712 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 1: just for like, maybe that's just for punching a hole 713 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,439 Speaker 1: in your compute son, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, 714 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,240 Speaker 1: it's just yeah, it's just for snacks, just for snacks, 715 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: just just for tearing open like a cutie orange, which 716 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,439 Speaker 1: is about the same size and shape of this guy. 717 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 1: So these are shrikes. So shrikes are a family of 718 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 1: medium to small birds who are mainly found in Africa 719 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 1: and Eurasia, although there are also a couple of species 720 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,360 Speaker 1: found in North America, including the loggerhead and northern shrike. 721 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 1: And I think most of these pictures I've shown you 722 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 1: are the longer head shrike, so they are to look 723 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 1: familiar to me. But also yeah, also yeah, birds can 724 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 1: be hard to identify for me that not a birder 725 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,399 Speaker 1: and wild, but I mean I've done birding and it's hard, 726 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 1: even like some experience, it's difficult. So they are typically 727 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,919 Speaker 1: gray brown and white in coloration with a black beak, 728 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,399 Speaker 1: and they've got a little bandit mask over their eyes. 729 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: They've got the racing, so you know, that's kind of 730 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 1: what makes yeah, you know they're up to something, these 731 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: little zoros Like it's uh, you know it is. I 732 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 1: feel like it's a weird kind of stereotyping with the 733 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 1: bandit mask, but it's like almost always like in nature 734 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 1: when you got someone with a bandit masks, like you're 735 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 1: up to something, because raccoons are all that stuff. Yeah 736 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 1: you're yeah, your eyes are dark. I don't I can't 737 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 1: fully trust you, but it is it's a cool look. 738 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,879 Speaker 1: It's very cute. I mean it's sleek. It's these guys 739 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 1: are sleek as hell. I like their tails. Yeah, they 740 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 1: look like they're fast, they look like they can dive. 741 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 1: They look like a little crime and I do like that, 742 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 1: they really do. Yeah. Yeah that that first picture you have, 743 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,799 Speaker 1: it looks like a little tony soprano bird, which which 744 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 1: you think you think you you come to come to 745 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 1: my Egg's wedding and you you don't even don't you 746 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: don't bring a Google Google Gobba. We'll work on that one. Yeah. 747 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 1: Did you know that um is actually from Capacola and 748 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 1: it got bastardized into Gobba goo? Yeah, yeah it is. Yeah, 749 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 1: it's the same meat. It's Capacola. It's just like yeah, 750 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: it's just like slang or it was like Italian slang 751 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 1: for Capacola. Well, it's like which is one of our 752 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,360 Speaker 1: best words, right because in southern Italy um capitul, like 753 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 1: people sometimes drop the last vowel in words. So Capacola 754 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 1: turned into capacol somehow like got like from the transatlantic 755 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 1: trip from Italy to the US, like it turned into 756 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 1: like Gabba Google or something, and it's like became like 757 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 1: Gabba goole which is one of our best words. So 758 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 1: it really is in this great melting pots definitely look 759 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: like they're complaining about gabba gool um. Yeah and do 760 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,320 Speaker 1: uh yeah, there's there's a line and I in a 761 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,840 Speaker 1: toy story three, I want to say where Miss potato 762 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: Head is packing up Mr potato Head for a trip, 763 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,400 Speaker 1: and she says, I'm packing your angry eyes just in case. 764 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: And these guys definitely have their angry eyes. That's right. Yes, 765 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 1: despite looking just like this little bird that is also 766 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 1: perhaps as mischievous, they are known as the butcher bird 767 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:11,399 Speaker 1: for good reason. So shrikes are carnivores. They love meat. 768 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 1: They not only love to eat meat, they love collecting 769 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,320 Speaker 1: meat and saving it for later. So how do you 770 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,280 Speaker 1: do that when you don't have a fridge or a pantry. 771 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 1: Well ya, shish kebab your victims on spikes? So what? 772 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,400 Speaker 1: Oh wow, their little psychopaths. Yes, so they will catch insects, reptiles, 773 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 1: small mammals, and even other birds and impale them on 774 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 1: spikes wherever they can find spikes, so that could be thorn, 775 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 1: branches or even man made structures like barbed wire. Wow, 776 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 1: they have like little meat lockers. They're like their leather 777 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 1: face essentially, yeah, killers. Yes, so some species do make 778 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 1: sure to kill their ms before impaling them, such as 779 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 1: the loggerhead strike, and they will grab their victim by 780 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 1: the neck inflict a precise bite to the neck, paralyzing them. 781 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: And once they're victim has gone limped with the praise 782 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,879 Speaker 1: neck still in their beaks, they will shake them violently 783 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,280 Speaker 1: until their next snaps. And these strikes these little birds 784 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:34,359 Speaker 1: subject them to a g force similar to a roller coaster. Wow. Horrified, Yeah, 785 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 1: also methodical, but also violent. Yeah, I guess I respected. 786 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm terrified. Yeah, this tiny bird, Yes, that's cute, tiny 787 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 1: bird that I want to hold in my hand right now. 788 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,279 Speaker 1: I really don't. I feel like I would be very 789 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,720 Speaker 1: like I would if they were like a crime boss, 790 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 1: despite them being this little and small, I'd be like, yeah, 791 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 1: whatever you say, boss, Like I would respect them. Oh yeah, no, 792 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 1: even more now. The Tony Soprano of birds right exactly, 793 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 1: you know, like you gotta make a quick you got yeah, 794 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 1: you can got a bow right in the neck. And 795 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 1: and much like Tony Soprano, there's something lovable about it, 796 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 1: but also you know there's an inherent evil they Yeah, 797 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:33,799 Speaker 1: they will kill you if you present them with a complication. Yeah, 798 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 1: in a pretty violent way. Complication is such as being 799 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 1: around when they are hungry. Right, So, uh, then once 800 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 1: they have killed their prey dead in this horribly violent way, 801 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,359 Speaker 1: they will impale them on a spike. So the use 802 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:56,720 Speaker 1: of this like meat locker um helps them eat larger 803 00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:01,399 Speaker 1: prey by like methodically stripping bits of flesh off them, 804 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 1: and also to save the food for later if they're like, 805 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 1: you know, not so hungry anymore, just like you know, leftovers. 806 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 1: And it's like a half eaten freaking lizard on a 807 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 1: spike with its face just in. It's locked in to 808 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 1: what it looked like when it was violently assaulted. It's 809 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,879 Speaker 1: good stuff. Uh. And the doc I sent you I said, 810 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,919 Speaker 1: don't scroll down, but now you can absolutely scroll down 811 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:32,240 Speaker 1: now because you know, yeah, I've got pictures of this business. 812 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:38,879 Speaker 1: And it's it's oh yeah, uh oh my god. Oh 813 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 1: this is horrifying. This is gruesome. This is a crime scene. 814 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:50,359 Speaker 1: These are crime scene photos. It's like from Hannibal. Yeah, 815 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:59,879 Speaker 1: it looks premeditated, I mean it is yeah, yeah, wow, 816 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,359 Speaker 1: oh this is uh yeah, this is these are these 817 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 1: are some violent pictures of the small rodents and other birds, 818 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:17,919 Speaker 1: which is just like yeah, just through the head. Yeah 819 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,879 Speaker 1: like that. I think it's like a I think it's 820 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,400 Speaker 1: some kind of mouth or rat and the spike is 821 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 1: going just right through the right through this. Yeah, they 822 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 1: really uh, I especially this one, the first one. I 823 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 1: how they angled it to impale it and like they're 824 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 1: doing art now. They're like they're it's like an arrangement, 825 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:52,960 Speaker 1: you know, like edible bouquets arranged food. But it's like that, 826 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 1: but like, hey, check out how I've art now, so 827 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to skelet tonight. Is It's also like I 828 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 1: understand they're the branches can be the sharp, but it 829 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,800 Speaker 1: feels like they had to sharpen some of these. I 830 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 1: mean this is like they usually pick out really thorny 831 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,240 Speaker 1: trees like these are that one that's like a thorn? 832 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,360 Speaker 1: So that that is sharp? Yeah? That that's yeah, Like 833 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, definitely, I don't know of them actually 834 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,839 Speaker 1: like sharpening branches. They tend to just like to use 835 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:30,880 Speaker 1: the available spiky things. That's why they they will absolutely 836 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 1: use barbed wire and just like yeah, the barbed that one. Uh. 837 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 1: And maybe it's just this type of that looks barbecued. Yeah, so, 838 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,840 Speaker 1: I mean it's a horned lizard, so it already looks 839 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,400 Speaker 1: kind of dried out. Um, but yeah, I mean it 840 00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 1: could have been there for a few days and for 841 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,720 Speaker 1: a while to become a file a little bit. Actually, 842 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 1: you know, they will do food preparation, so like they 843 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,400 Speaker 1: they will take something that is normally toxic, like a 844 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 1: toxic insects such as the lubber grasshopper, that if they 845 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,960 Speaker 1: ate it immediately it would make them sick. So they 846 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 1: will impale these grasshoppers, leave them dead and impaled for 847 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 1: around three days while the toxin degrades, and then eat 848 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 1: them once they're ripe, essentially once the toxin has degraded 849 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 1: enough during the decomposition, and then like eat them and 850 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 1: they're safe then. So yeah, it's like kind of a yeah, 851 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you know, like letting your wine age, 852 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:41,040 Speaker 1: except it's a dead grasshopper. Yeah, dead poisonous grasshopper. Do 853 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 1: they like I have to feel like their food gets 854 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,480 Speaker 1: poached a lot, or do they like hang out they 855 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,480 Speaker 1: protect it. I mean, yeah, it's an interesting question, I 856 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 1: think because they're like high up in like usually these 857 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,960 Speaker 1: thorny things are sort of like high up so like 858 00:57:56,080 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 1: a typical predator isn't gonna be up there. Um it 859 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 1: maybe get poached by other like predatory birds or other 860 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 1: strikes potentially, Um, but yeah, I mean I think they 861 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 1: will eat it's they will like once they've killed it, 862 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: they will eat it like uh immediately. They will eat 863 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 1: as much as they want until they're full, and then 864 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,960 Speaker 1: like they'll stop eating, go go off do their business 865 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 1: and then come back. And I'm sure sometimes it gets poached, 866 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 1: but you know, yeah, but I but you don't want 867 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 1: to mess with these You don't want to coach one 868 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 1: of these guys. Yeah, like you don't want to go 869 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 1: have your head on a spice. Literally, it's it's it's 870 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 1: truly a crime scene. Yeah. Yeah. And it's funny because 871 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 1: they will impale anything they catch, so like from a 872 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 1: little bee, which there's something cute and sad about that, 873 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,960 Speaker 1: just like this bee that they've been paled um or 874 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 1: to like a large rodent or even a bird nearly 875 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 1: their own sides. Like they will take on birds that 876 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 1: are almost like the same size as them and like 877 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,800 Speaker 1: thrash the um and then it's just it's just it's 878 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:09,040 Speaker 1: it's incredible, like just they are they are the hannibal 879 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:14,440 Speaker 1: Hannibals of of the bird world. Yeah, these guys are 880 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 1: maybe the scariest. They they're I saved them most terrifying 881 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,640 Speaker 1: for last, because yeah, they they're. I mean it is 882 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 1: like it's like hell. It's like things and paled on spikes. 883 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:32,479 Speaker 1: These are hell birds and they just look so proud 884 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:36,440 Speaker 1: of their killing too, just like yeah, I did it. 885 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 1: They're not. They're not even like trying to shirk responsibility, 886 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,440 Speaker 1: like yeah, I did it, I did this, I did this. 887 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 1: Mess with me. It's like if O. J. Simpson had 888 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 1: written a book that said I did it instead of 889 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,640 Speaker 1: if I did Yeah, and with him on the cover 890 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:59,080 Speaker 1: next to his right, like next to the order scene. Yeah, 891 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 1: this is yeah. These are yeah, truly crime scene photos. 892 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,680 Speaker 1: It really is. I've got them in the show notes, 893 01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 1: you know. It's like check them out, check them out 894 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 1: if you want. Like, they're not I don't find I 895 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,840 Speaker 1: don't find their gory, but I think just emotionally there 896 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 1: it's the punch is not the gore. It's not really good. 897 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 1: It's just shocking. It's the emotional gut punch of seeing 898 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,040 Speaker 1: this bird proudly standing next to like one of them 899 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,400 Speaker 1: is European robin, which is one of my favorite birds. 900 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 1: I think they're the cutest birds in the world. It's 901 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 1: just this poor little European robin impaled on a spike 902 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 1: with this like innocent looking bird just being like, yeah 903 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:49,360 Speaker 1: I did that. That was me. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna 904 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,640 Speaker 1: eat it. I'm gonna eat half of it now and 905 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 1: save half of it for later later. Yeah. No, there's yeah, 906 01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:01,400 Speaker 1: they're smart, uh they ration you know. Yeah, no, yeah, 907 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,400 Speaker 1: it's not a it's not a gor thing. It's just 908 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 1: it's shocking to see in the animal king to Yeah, 909 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:15,000 Speaker 1: it's it's something that seems so premeditated. Yeah, yeah, Like 910 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, I feel maybe because you know, I feel 911 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 1: like our culture has a somewhat unhealthy obsession with true 912 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 1: crime these days, like the whole Thomber obsession, and it's 913 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 1: a little bit it's a little ghosh, it's a little unhealthy. 914 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 1: So maybe we could just educate ourselves about nature and 915 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,840 Speaker 1: then get our sick kicks that way, because there's a 916 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:44,200 Speaker 1: lot of serial killers. Yeah, it seems like it, and 917 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,600 Speaker 1: like in like in real life, the last people you 918 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:53,919 Speaker 1: would expect, Yes, exactly. You know, I couldn't have said 919 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:58,520 Speaker 1: it better myself, bridget um, which is why again I'm 920 01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:02,960 Speaker 1: always keeping one open around you, because like you look 921 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 1: very innocent, sweet, right, but there's something, you know, there's 922 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 1: something behind the eyes of all. Yeah, exactly, I'm gonna 923 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,480 Speaker 1: group myself in with them adorable little sweeties. I have 924 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:19,440 Speaker 1: seen you like at because we used to work together 925 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,440 Speaker 1: and there was like a shoot and I remember like 926 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,640 Speaker 1: you would put up signs like be quiet in this 927 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 1: hallway and people would walk on, walk on by, having 928 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:35,560 Speaker 1: loud conversations. And here comes Bridget again, like she's like 929 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,560 Speaker 1: the tarsier of the human world, you know, like it 930 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:44,000 Speaker 1: looks very sweet, very innocent, and then just like destroys 931 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:48,600 Speaker 1: these people literally drift their head off, you know, and 932 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:53,120 Speaker 1: pale them onto bikes. Yeah, if you're talking on one 933 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,959 Speaker 1: of my sets, uh, you know, it goes quiet pretty 934 01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 1: quickly out of the room and then everything is silent, right, 935 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:09,520 Speaker 1: you know, head and pale. It happened, hey, yeah, yeah, 936 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 1: send a p a to clean it up, right, save 937 01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,360 Speaker 1: it for later, yeah, shave it for for for for 938 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:24,919 Speaker 1: the for the craft table. Yeah, just just a bunch 939 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 1: of little birds. Well, Bridget, Before we go, we have 940 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,880 Speaker 1: to switch gears and play a little game I like 941 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:38,520 Speaker 1: to call guess who's squawking? The mry animal sound game. 942 01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,040 Speaker 1: Every week I play a mry animal sound and you 943 01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 1: the listener, and you the guests. So are you ready 944 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,320 Speaker 1: to do it? Are you ready? So? Last week's mr 945 01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 1: Animal sound hint was this? This alarm call is no 946 01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:06,320 Speaker 1: laughing matter. Wow, that sounds like a Is it a 947 01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:15,360 Speaker 1: rubber duck? That's that's right, it's a it's a literal 948 01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:20,240 Speaker 1: rubber duck. It's a it's a rubber ducky gig, give me, 949 01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 1: give me the hint one more time. This alarm call 950 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,160 Speaker 1: is no laughing matter. Laughing matter makes me want to 951 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,560 Speaker 1: say hyena. But that definitely sounds like some sort of 952 01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,680 Speaker 1: bird that noise comes out of a beak I want 953 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:42,400 Speaker 1: to imagine. Um uh oh man, this is another another 954 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 1: just like wrong guess, but I'm gonna go with some 955 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:49,680 Speaker 1: sort of loon. Interesting it is a wrong guess. I 956 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:53,959 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Nonethe last, but this is the alarm call 957 01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 1: of a lama. It's a lama. You got lama. You 958 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:06,160 Speaker 1: got lama, fredge you got the I mean, I have 959 01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 1: never trusted lamas. Uh, They're tricky. That truly sounds like 960 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,240 Speaker 1: it comes out of a beak, it does it does? 961 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:18,720 Speaker 1: Or a horn. It's it's an odd Yeah, it's an 962 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:25,320 Speaker 1: odd yeah sound but yeah, I guess lamas squeak or 963 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:30,560 Speaker 1: squawk orrel Yeah. So. Lamas are social animals, and they 964 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:34,080 Speaker 1: live with a herd in the wild and in captivity. 965 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,600 Speaker 1: They will consider those who live with them as part 966 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:42,320 Speaker 1: of their herd, regardless of species, So similar to donkeys, 967 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,320 Speaker 1: they can be used as livestock guards who will issue 968 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:50,880 Speaker 1: alarm calls and attack predators who try to attack it's herd, 969 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,160 Speaker 1: which could be a group of sheep or other livestock 970 01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:58,320 Speaker 1: that the lama has now adopted and believes it must 971 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:04,200 Speaker 1: protect with the incredible alarm call and with a righteous aggression. 972 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:11,920 Speaker 1: I love llamas as like old timey centuries bodyguard century guards. 973 01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:18,919 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, they're lovely. I love them. Yeah, they're 974 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,600 Speaker 1: They're a strange animal and that seems like a good 975 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:26,439 Speaker 1: job for them. Yes, onto this week's Mr Animals. Sound 976 01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:30,240 Speaker 1: here is the hint. As a fellow introverted redhead, I 977 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:47,120 Speaker 1: sympathize with sometimes wanting personal space. He alright, Bridget, can 978 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,720 Speaker 1: you guess who's squawking? And if you gives correctly. I'm 979 01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,080 Speaker 1: gonna have to bleep you out so everyone else can 980 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:55,040 Speaker 1: have a chance, but people will know if you got 981 01:06:55,120 --> 01:07:01,439 Speaker 1: it right. I feel like that's right. You are absolutely correct. Yes, 982 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,440 Speaker 1: Ah that feels good, but it does. I'll quack you out, 983 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:10,520 Speaker 1: but everyone for the record, Bridget has givest it correctly, 984 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,000 Speaker 1: and don't you forget it. Don't you forget it, or 985 01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:16,960 Speaker 1: she's gonna impale you on a spike on a spike. 986 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,400 Speaker 1: Yeah that's yeah, that's also the way of Bridgets. Not 987 01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 1: not in this podcast, but yes, so very good gifts. Bridget. 988 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being on the show today. 989 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:35,800 Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Ah, thanks so much for 990 01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,720 Speaker 1: having me. It's so fun to talk about animals. I 991 01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:42,080 Speaker 1: love them. Uh, you guys can find me on the 992 01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,960 Speaker 1: Small Beans network. I have a couple of different podcasts there, 993 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,640 Speaker 1: as Katie mentioned, shooting threes right now where me and 994 01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:51,600 Speaker 1: Sarah Griffith are going over movie trilogies. Rough stuff will 995 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,760 Speaker 1: be back soon. Uh, and you know, whenever Fast and 996 01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,240 Speaker 1: Furious comes out, we're gonna be talking about that. And uh, 997 01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,360 Speaker 1: you can you can keep up to date with all 998 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:04,560 Speaker 1: the the movie stuff, producing, writing, directing stuff. I've been 999 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 1: doing over on Twitter at bridget tweets for you know. However, 1000 01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 1: long still kicking. I'm curious about the New Past and 1001 01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,720 Speaker 1: Furious because like I think they were filming it here 1002 01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:20,200 Speaker 1: actually in turn and like parts of it. Probably they're 1003 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,160 Speaker 1: gonna say it's Rome or something, which sucks because like, 1004 01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:26,680 Speaker 1: come on, um, but yeah, there was like a helicopter 1005 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,880 Speaker 1: going around, like making it impossible to podcast where. Yeah, 1006 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,240 Speaker 1: when you're in the vicinity of a fast and furious 1007 01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:37,559 Speaker 1: movie shooting, you know it, and it disrupted disturb everything. 1008 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,680 Speaker 1: It's very disruptive, but for for good costs. So I'm 1009 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,920 Speaker 1: looking forward to that. Yeah, you'll see Katie like poking 1010 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:49,400 Speaker 1: out a window, like shaking her fist on what's the 1011 01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:54,479 Speaker 1: matter with you? Yeah? Uh yeah, Well, thank you so 1012 01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:58,120 Speaker 1: much for joining me today, and hey, thank you for 1013 01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:02,320 Speaker 1: listening to the podcast. You're ears are doing great work there. 1014 01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:05,439 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Uh. If you're enjoying the show and 1015 01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:09,519 Speaker 1: you leave a rating or review, I deeply appreciated it. 1016 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:13,519 Speaker 1: I literally read every single review and they mean a 1017 01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:17,040 Speaker 1: lot to me. I really appreciate getting that feedback. 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