WEBVTT - The $7 Million Man

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<v Speaker 1>Somewhere tonight, a Wells Fargo guard and acts Wells Fargo

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<v Speaker 1>guard is on the run with seven million dollars in cash.

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<v Speaker 1>On the night of the robbery, I had chased a

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<v Speaker 1>burglar from Flatwish Avenue all around Charter rope Terrace and

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<v Speaker 1>was frustrated that he got away with like a bike

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe a VCR. It's September twelve. Jack Casey is

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<v Speaker 1>two years into a thirty year career with the West

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<v Speaker 1>Harford Police Department in central Connecticut. On this night, he's

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<v Speaker 1>looking for a robbery suspect and a local housing project

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<v Speaker 1>when he takes a call for a robbery in progress.

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<v Speaker 1>It comes in and then we gave the code for

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<v Speaker 1>a robbery, and then they gave the address, and I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm right down the street. I'll be there within seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>So of course I jumped back in my cruiser. I

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<v Speaker 1>drive up the street. I'm probably here in half an it,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm thinking, okay, I got a good shot of

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<v Speaker 1>getting these guys. Casey rolls up to what is an

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<v Speaker 1>unmarked Wells Fargo depot near the Hartford town line. To

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<v Speaker 1>an outsider, the one story building appears empty, no signs,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody around. When he arrives. There's no clear or obvious

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<v Speaker 1>indication of trouble either. The steel overhead garage doors are closed.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything appears to be quiet, But Casey is the first

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<v Speaker 1>officer on the scene and knows better than to go rogue. Plus,

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<v Speaker 1>he understands, if you've got the guts to rob a

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<v Speaker 1>secured warehouse full of money, chances are your arm to

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<v Speaker 1>the teeth. Telling them on the radio, hey have then

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<v Speaker 1>come out, they said, we're trying. By then a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of other officers started showing ups, and now we're setting

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<v Speaker 1>up a perimeter because as far as we're concerned as

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<v Speaker 1>the active robbery, and there's a lot of cash on

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<v Speaker 1>the line. Inside that nondescript window list building, there is

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<v Speaker 1>over thirty million dollars on any given day, a good

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<v Speaker 1>portion of which is brand new money banded bills consecutive

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<v Speaker 1>numbers wrapped in plastic fresh from the Federal reserve, ready

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<v Speaker 1>to be distributed into the population. Dispatch tells Casey to

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<v Speaker 1>make his way towards the building's rear entrance, so he does.

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<v Speaker 1>Then a door swings open to reveal a visibly shaken guard.

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<v Speaker 1>You can tell he had some marks on his face

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<v Speaker 1>from the tape or whatever. I think he had a

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<v Speaker 1>handcuffed angling off of them, and he was really really

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<v Speaker 1>upset and he saw I've been robbed. We've been robbed.

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<v Speaker 1>Turns out there were two security guards held hostage during

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<v Speaker 1>the robbery. One appears to have a swollen upper lip.

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<v Speaker 1>The other still has some tape stuck to his hair

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<v Speaker 1>from being tied up. Their clothes are ruffled, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they start telling me a story. The guard they worked

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<v Speaker 1>with put a gun to their head, retinum, hand coffed on,

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<v Speaker 1>tied them off, put him on the floor, loaded up

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of money, and left. So I said how

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<v Speaker 1>much let He said five million? And I'm like, what now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm aggravated because some guy just stole a bike. For

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<v Speaker 1>two hours, I can't find a guy, and at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, this guy is stealing five million dollars. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the initial thought in a frenzy to report every

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<v Speaker 1>detail of the crime scene during those crucial first hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Early police reports listed the monetary loss at five million dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>but as it turns out, the amount of money was

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<v Speaker 1>far greater. The thief actually got away with a total

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<v Speaker 1>of seven million, seventeen thousand one hundred and fifty one dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>an amount equivalent today to nearly nineteen point six million.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, it was one of the largest cash

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<v Speaker 1>heists in US history. But stealing seven million dollars, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that was just the beginning. My name is em William Phelps.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an investigative journalist and author of more than forty

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<v Speaker 1>true crime books. What you were about to hear is

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<v Speaker 1>the true story of a heist, one that funded an

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<v Speaker 1>international independence movement and sparked an investigation spanning nearly four decades.

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<v Speaker 1>This is White Eagle. It was a Monday night in

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<v Speaker 1>mid September. Two Wells Fargo guards, twenty five year old

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<v Speaker 1>Victor Harraina and twenty one year old Tim Girard. We're

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready to call it a day. They were en

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<v Speaker 1>route from Bridgeport, Connecticut to the smugglers in a bar

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<v Speaker 1>and restaurant in Rocky Hill, Connecticut, the last stop of

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<v Speaker 1>their long day before heading back to the Wells Fargo

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<v Speaker 1>depot in West Harford, Connecticut and clocking out. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>repetitive job, with grueling hours on the road, driving to

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<v Speaker 1>various banks and businesses around Connecticut and Massachusetts to pick

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<v Speaker 1>up money and loaded into an armored vehicle, one stop

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<v Speaker 1>after another, pick up load, pick up load, and at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day the reverse unload count unload count.

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<v Speaker 1>Victor Harraine had been at it for a little over

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<v Speaker 1>a year, Tim Gerard just six months. Guards made just

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<v Speaker 1>four dollars and seventy five cents an hour, which was

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<v Speaker 1>about a dollar higher than minimum wage at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>but a fraction of the millions of dollars in cash

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<v Speaker 1>they collected and handled each day. For whatever reason, they

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<v Speaker 1>were shorthanded, probably because it was a lousy job and

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<v Speaker 1>Ed mahoney has been a reporter for thirty years, many

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<v Speaker 1>of which have been spent at the Hartford Current. He

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<v Speaker 1>was part of the team that want to pull a

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<v Speaker 1>Surprise in the late nineties for coverage of what was

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<v Speaker 1>at the time a rare occurrence, a shooting rampage in

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<v Speaker 1>which a Connecticut State Lottery employee killed four senior supervisors

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<v Speaker 1>and then himself. Mahoney's covered politics, local news and is

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<v Speaker 1>no stranger to complex investigative crime stories. He explains that

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<v Speaker 1>the two guards that night were in a rush to

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<v Speaker 1>get back to the depot Monday night football was on TV,

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<v Speaker 1>and their boss twenty five year old Jim McKean wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to go home and watch the San Diego Chargers play

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<v Speaker 1>the Kansas City Chiefs, but being understaffed, everything was already

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<v Speaker 1>behind schedule, and there was a half a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>cash that still needed to be counted and stacked. According

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<v Speaker 1>to police reports, when the guards got back to the

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<v Speaker 1>depot around nine o'clock, Victor offered to unload the money

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<v Speaker 1>by himself. His partner Tim refused because he'd gotten into

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<v Speaker 1>trouble in the past for leaving early. He decided to

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<v Speaker 1>stick her out, so Victor thought it would be he

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<v Speaker 1>and one of a person in the view pub. It

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<v Speaker 1>turns out it's Heat and two others. Boss Jim McKean

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<v Speaker 1>was waiting inside the dispatch office, sitting at a desk

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<v Speaker 1>to the left of the vault where the money collected

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<v Speaker 1>by the guards was to be kept. He had one

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<v Speaker 1>half of the vaults combination, Victor had the other. After

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<v Speaker 1>Victor helped open the vault, he went back to the

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<v Speaker 1>truck and began unloading the cash they'd collected that day.

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<v Speaker 1>Bags of coins which stayed unload later, and twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>bags of currency, which was brought into the vault on

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<v Speaker 1>a wheeled cart. There are two ways to enter the

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<v Speaker 1>building's dispatch office. The main way is via a keypad

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<v Speaker 1>entrance through double steel doors and an observation port. The

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<v Speaker 1>other is through a bolted door that opens into the

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<v Speaker 1>garage area, though it can only be unlocked from inside

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<v Speaker 1>the dispatch office. Basically, the only way to gain access

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<v Speaker 1>to all that cash was to already be inside. They're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there and they're counting these millions of dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>stacking it up and making notes and writing up paperwork

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<v Speaker 1>and running it through adding machines and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and Victor kind of manivorous himself behind this boss is

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<v Speaker 1>sitting at the table and slips out the boss's pistol

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<v Speaker 1>province holster and says, okay, guys, I'm not fooling around.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna shoot you if you don't do what i'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you to do. He slapped the other card

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<v Speaker 1>and said, hey, this is no joke. And they hear

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<v Speaker 1>him loading a shotgun and a handgun. So you know

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<v Speaker 1>what you're thinking in your mind, you're gonna be executed.

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<v Speaker 1>Boss Jim McKean would later tell police that he thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to be killed. Quote all I said

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<v Speaker 1>was Vic, and he said, Jim, I've got nothing against you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just tired of working for other people. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>like he had everything with him. He needed to restrain

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<v Speaker 1>one person, but there were two people, so for example,

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<v Speaker 1>had one pair of handcuffs, so he had to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>use the handcuffs and conversation with some tape and some

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<v Speaker 1>rope and stuff like that. Both men were gagged in

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<v Speaker 1>order to lie on the floor. Jim McKeon's hands were

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<v Speaker 1>handcuffed behind his back. Tim Gerard was hog tied with

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<v Speaker 1>white adhesive tape and nylon twine. Police Chief Francis Reynolds

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<v Speaker 1>spoke to reporters the following day. Coach were then placed

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<v Speaker 1>over their heads, at which time Greena advised the men

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<v Speaker 1>that he was going to give them a shot that

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<v Speaker 1>would put him to sleep. It looks like he injected

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<v Speaker 1>them both, but neither one of them got knocked out,

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe it's because he divided at those for one

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<v Speaker 1>person among two people. That solution doctors would later analyze

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<v Speaker 1>through tests was allegedly a mixture of aspirin and water.

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<v Speaker 1>The two guards later told police Victor appeared highly agitated.

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<v Speaker 1>He turned on the intercom to hear if anyone was outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Gerard said, when he started to wriggle around, Victor

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<v Speaker 1>hit him a few times and warned both men that

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<v Speaker 1>they had accidentally choked themselves if they tried to break

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<v Speaker 1>free their incapacity of their tape. They're tied up to

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<v Speaker 1>their light on the ground, and they just hear him

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<v Speaker 1>going back and forth, and they hear zippers like somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>filling up great big, huge gym bags or sleeping bags

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<v Speaker 1>with cash. It's actually hard to believe someone pulled it off.

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<v Speaker 1>Victor Haraina emptied the steel vault of all currency with

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<v Speaker 1>the exception of one and two dollar bills. He then

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<v Speaker 1>loaded approximately between nine hundred and twelve pounds of cash

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<v Speaker 1>into a buic less saber parked in one of the

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<v Speaker 1>deposed loading bays, conveniently out of public view. All this

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<v Speaker 1>within just ninety minutes. What he was doing was he

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<v Speaker 1>was loading up the cash into bags and stuffing it

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<v Speaker 1>into the car, and it got to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>there is so much I mean, there was barely off

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<v Speaker 1>room for him to get into the car. There was

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<v Speaker 1>so much cash in it. So much. In fact, Victor

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<v Speaker 1>not only had to take out the car, spare tire

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<v Speaker 1>and bumper jack to make room for the money. He

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<v Speaker 1>also left behind a few currency bags worth hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of dollars. Victor then got into the buick, beat

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<v Speaker 1>the horn twice, and drove out of the Deepot parking lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, there's a national alert again Jack Casey, that

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<v Speaker 1>goes out all across the country. So when we enter it,

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<v Speaker 1>we say, you know, arm robbery, West Hartford seven million,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to catch the eye of most police departments,

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<v Speaker 1>especially along the corridor. By that point, Victor Harraina already

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<v Speaker 1>had a solid lead ahead of law enforcement, we thought

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<v Speaker 1>that night because they're heat accustomed tight up. He probably

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<v Speaker 1>figured he's got a lot of time because he's thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>all these guys are probably gonna get found in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>So the fact that they were able to wiggle free.

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<v Speaker 1>Did the alarm have helped yet there? But we figured, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't have as much time as he thought.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not that far ahead of us now. But as

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out, he was far enough ahead to get away.

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<v Speaker 1>The search for Victor Harraina began almost immediately after police

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<v Speaker 1>responded to the scene. Today, they might have found him

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<v Speaker 1>within hours, but in it was far easier to vanish.

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<v Speaker 1>GPS tracking wasn't available to civilians yet three nine eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>people traveled more freely and could pay with cash, and

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<v Speaker 1>it would be another twenty years before the majority of

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<v Speaker 1>the population carried cell phones in their pockets. Was also

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<v Speaker 1>a chaotic time in the nation. Less than two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>before the robbery, the Soviet Union shot down a Korean

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<v Speaker 1>Airlines flight, killing everyone on board, including a U. S congressman.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, there was concern about what it all

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<v Speaker 1>meant for the US and whether the Cold War would

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<v Speaker 1>heat back up. President Reagan called the attack barbaric. Our

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<v Speaker 1>first emotions are angered, disbelief and profound sadness. While events

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<v Speaker 1>in Afghanistan and elsewhere have left few illusions about the

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<v Speaker 1>willingness of the Soviet Union to advance its interest through

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<v Speaker 1>violence and intimidation, all of us had hoped that certain

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<v Speaker 1>irreducible standards of civilized behavior nonetheless obtained. In West Harford,

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<v Speaker 1>police were busy and rattled. The town had recently been

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<v Speaker 1>terrorized by a serial arsonist who had been sending fires

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<v Speaker 1>to local synagogues. We're having a series so arson's in

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<v Speaker 1>town that appeared to be targeting the Jewish neighborhood. They

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<v Speaker 1>were high profile cases. We were getting a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>heat with them, and it was a lot of hours

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<v Speaker 1>beginning put into it. We were flat out. Steve Luby

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<v Speaker 1>was a detective with the West Tarford Police Department. He

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<v Speaker 1>worked in the Special Investigations Division, a small team mainly

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<v Speaker 1>focused on narcotics cases, internal affairs, and arson's the ladder

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<v Speaker 1>of which wholly occupied Luby's time that summer. He says,

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<v Speaker 1>up until then, West Tarford was a fairly quiet place

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<v Speaker 1>to work. It was primarily a sleepier suburb of Harvard.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people would work in Harford that lived there,

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<v Speaker 1>and they would commute back and forth. We had some

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<v Speaker 1>murders periodically, not not nothing like Hartford, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>arson cases that became like national news overnight. Within one week,

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<v Speaker 1>the arsonists torched two local synagogues, and less than a

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<v Speaker 1>month later, a state representatives house was set on fire

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<v Speaker 1>as she and her family slept. Thankfully, no one was hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>and the cops eventually caught the guy who did it,

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<v Speaker 1>a seventeen year old kid who was a member of

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<v Speaker 1>the first synagogue. Targeted everyone I've spoken to from the area,

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<v Speaker 1>has said it was a terrifying few months with lots

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<v Speaker 1>of national attention. By the time the Wells Fargo Heights happened,

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement was spent. I was home in bed, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to catch up on some sleep. I got a call

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<v Speaker 1>from dispatch indicating that they wanted me to return to duty.

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<v Speaker 1>When the phone rang, I figured it was another arson

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<v Speaker 1>fire or something that I was going in for. And

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<v Speaker 1>who recalled me? I asked him, you know, what's what's

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<v Speaker 1>this all about? They said, getting her right away. We

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<v Speaker 1>just had a robbery at Wells Fargo and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>huge robbery. You want to address these things earlier she can,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're losing information the longer you go. So we

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<v Speaker 1>have really a sitdown. Was more or less you do this,

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<v Speaker 1>you go here, you do that. Police had a slight advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>Unlike most cases, they already had a suspect, Victor Manuel

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<v Speaker 1>Harrena a five ft six sixty pounds, brown hair, green eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a description of the car he drove away in,

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<v Speaker 1>a green three four door Buick Le Saber, and he

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<v Speaker 1>knew where he lived Warner Street, downtown Hartford, just a

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen minute drive from the Wells Fargo depot, plus they

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<v Speaker 1>learned one critical piece of information about his personal life.

0:16:44.240 --> 0:17:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Victor Harrana was due to get married four days At

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<v Speaker 1>approximately twelve fifteen am, nearly an hour after the Wells

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<v Speaker 1>Fargo guards freed themselves and called for help, law enforcement

0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:16.800
<v Speaker 1>approached the multi family building in Hartford where Victor Harraina

0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:20.679
<v Speaker 1>shared an apartment with his fiance. An armed robber in

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<v Speaker 1>possession of seven million dollars in cash was on the lamp.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no risk too small to take. The police

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<v Speaker 1>were armed in the perimeter of the building secured. Jack

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<v Speaker 1>Casey was among those present. We're outside, saying, hey, we

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<v Speaker 1>could steel and get a search warrant if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to consent to a search. Save everybody, about of time.

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<v Speaker 1>If he's not in there, it'll be quick. We'll go in,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get out. Victor's fiancee, Anna Soto, poked her head

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<v Speaker 1>out from the third floor porch. She seemed upset, but

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<v Speaker 1>also cooperative. According to police reports, She allowed the officers

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<v Speaker 1>inside to search the home. I remember the shotgun and

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<v Speaker 1>I was searching the room, and I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>a dover started coming and growling, and I leveled the

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<v Speaker 1>gun and I said, hey, you have to get the

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<v Speaker 1>get the dog, and she said okay, okay, which turns

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<v Speaker 1>out later on it's like she felt threatened by the

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<v Speaker 1>shotgun or whatever. But in any event, at that time

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<v Speaker 1>I opened the closet and nurse big, huge duffle bag.

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<v Speaker 1>So in my mind I'm thinking, wow, it's here. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the money. So now I'm thinking, okay, he's in here somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>So now we're looking for him, looking for him because

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<v Speaker 1>we're thinking that's the money. Eventually, after we clear the house,

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<v Speaker 1>we unzipped the baggage shoes, it shoots. The search for

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<v Speaker 1>Victor proof fruitless. Neither he nor the money was inside

0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:50.439
<v Speaker 1>that apartment, though the police did seize a number of

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<v Speaker 1>Victor's belongings, including his bank book and telephone records, an

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<v Speaker 1>address book with directions written inside, a letter written in Spanish,

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<v Speaker 1>a road map, a postcard, and most importantly, his passport,

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<v Speaker 1>leaving Victor with even less of a chance a flee

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<v Speaker 1>in the country. His fiance, Anna, said she didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>where he was. She agreed to go to the station,

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<v Speaker 1>even riding in the passenger seat of one of the

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<v Speaker 1>patrol cars, to voluntarily give a statement. Regarding Victor and

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<v Speaker 1>what she knew. Back at the station, Detective Steve Luby

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<v Speaker 1>was waiting for her arrival. I got a sign to

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<v Speaker 1>see if I could talk her into a written statement

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<v Speaker 1>and find out what she knew. Luby was tasked to

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<v Speaker 1>follow up on their two biggest leads at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>what if anything Victor herain A's fiance might know about

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<v Speaker 1>the robbery, and how police could find a getaway car

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<v Speaker 1>with Victor and the seven million in cash tucked away inside.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a personal kid. She was scared before he

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<v Speaker 1>even got into the background stuff. Guy remember her saying

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<v Speaker 1>she was freezing cold and the office was cold at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, But oftentimes when people are nervous, they kind

0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:09.359
<v Speaker 1>of come across really cold too. So I tried to

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<v Speaker 1>manipulate the heat in the office by putting the paper

0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:15.400
<v Speaker 1>clip in the thermostat and driving it up and got

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<v Speaker 1>her got herself. I wanted to get her comfortable with

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<v Speaker 1>me and see if I could get her relax a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Before he even started his statement, Luby took his time,

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<v Speaker 1>hoping to of course, went over her trust. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>go right to paper. I sit down trying to have

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation because she was frightened, and when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at someone being frightened, you don't often know are they

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<v Speaker 1>frightened because they're part of this? Are they just frightened

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<v Speaker 1>to be now in the police station addressing a crime

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<v Speaker 1>that either they were a victim of or a witness

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<v Speaker 1>to try to get that report on and and I,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was pretty good at getting her comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>She seemed comfortable, and she calmed down. She greeted a statement.

0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Luby knew how how important Anna could be within the

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<v Speaker 1>scope of the investigation. He needed to know if she

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<v Speaker 1>was telling the truth, and says after a while he

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<v Speaker 1>got the impression that she wasn't being up front, so

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<v Speaker 1>he took a more aggressive approach. And I told her

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<v Speaker 1>he's got he's got guns. He's out there now. Every

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<v Speaker 1>cop in New England, it's going out over the country

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<v Speaker 1>has his description. If you love him, you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>him to get stopped in the middle of the night,

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<v Speaker 1>some dark corner, some cop panics, he goes for a gun,

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<v Speaker 1>The cop goes for a gun, and in your boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>ends up getting killed. You know, I tried to use

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<v Speaker 1>that angle to have her be more concerned about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not so much protecting him but getting him safe and

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<v Speaker 1>making sure he didn't get hurt when he got apprehended.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed like a scare tactic. But I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>that's what Loubi thought. He says, Anna didn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>she was stepping into because remember, Victor was dangerous. The

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<v Speaker 1>guy was on the run with two loaded guns and

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<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars. I wanted to put down on paper

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<v Speaker 1>that they lived together and that they were engaged to

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<v Speaker 1>be married. And I think the day before she had

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<v Speaker 1>actually gotten the marriage license certificate or something to get

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<v Speaker 1>married or whatever it was from city hall. This was true.

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<v Speaker 1>The couple had planned to marry days after the heist,

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<v Speaker 1>her first marriage Victor's third. It's unclear whether Victor intended

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<v Speaker 1>to go through with the wedding. Still, as far as

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<v Speaker 1>Detective Luby was concerned, Anna Soto had been under the

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<v Speaker 1>impression that they would be married by the end of

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<v Speaker 1>that weekend. He used to call her before he get home.

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<v Speaker 1>They'd be in voice contact a lot during the night,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like two love birds there. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>was on the phone, she was on the phone, and

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't hear from him. That night. Apparently, according to her,

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<v Speaker 1>we were over relatives of his that, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's Apparently, according to her, he was very devoted to

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<v Speaker 1>his mother, who lived in a aim general area in

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<v Speaker 1>the south end of Harvard. He had some brothers that

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<v Speaker 1>were not local that he was not close to. So

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<v Speaker 1>the statement was basically a chance to get get information

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<v Speaker 1>on the family, his routines, any close friends. Surprisingly, she

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't, according to her, didn't have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>male friends or friends even on the job. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get warm with people on job. They didn't go out

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<v Speaker 1>socialize with people that much. And so I'm thinking, my

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<v Speaker 1>cynical minds, thinking that she's covering for some friend that

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<v Speaker 1>might be involved by telling me he doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of friends. So it went from me feeling that

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<v Speaker 1>she was probably the fiance that's all upset, that knows

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<v Speaker 1>nothing about this, And now as I went on with her,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, she's not giving me everything here he was right.

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<v Speaker 1>For the record, here's what Anna said in her statements

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<v Speaker 1>during the first few days of the investigation that on

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<v Speaker 1>the day of the robbery, Victor left home between ten

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen and ten thirty in the morning and caught the

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<v Speaker 1>bus to work. She said, she went with her cousin

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<v Speaker 1>to get the marriage license at city hall, took her

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<v Speaker 1>dogs to the park, and then went home alone. One

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<v Speaker 1>specific detail Louby took note of was that Annac claim

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<v Speaker 1>she had never seen the green Buick Victor used in

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<v Speaker 1>the robbery, and that Victor didn't have any friends who

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<v Speaker 1>owned that type of car. At some point I asked

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<v Speaker 1>her does he drive a Buick at all? This described

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<v Speaker 1>the car involved, and she said absolutely no. We knew

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Victor had used that night, had driven a car that

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<v Speaker 1>was not normally his car. The car itself, the Buick,

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<v Speaker 1>It was linked back to the Ugly Duckling or a

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<v Speaker 1>rental wreckt or one of those used car beat up

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<v Speaker 1>rental places, and you know we were. They were searching

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere for the car. Victor in fact, had driven several

0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:59.040
<v Speaker 1>different rental cars over the past few weeks, all of

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<v Speaker 1>which were from the nearby Ugly Duckling rent a car

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<v Speaker 1>and now defunct rental car company that was once considered

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<v Speaker 1>competition to brands like Budget and Hurts. In August, two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks before the robbery, Victor deposited two cash for a

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy seven Chevy Malibu, only to return it the

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<v Speaker 1>following morning because his quote plans hadn't worked out. Ten

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<v Speaker 1>days later, Victor called Ugly Duckling to reserve another full

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<v Speaker 1>size car for the following Monday, the day of the robbery,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was told the only way he'd be guaranteed

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<v Speaker 1>a car on that day would be to rent it

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend. That second rental, a nineteen seventy eight

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:46.359
<v Speaker 1>Mercury Marquis, was again returned the following day due to

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<v Speaker 1>the engine catching fire. As a replacement, Victor was given

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<v Speaker 1>a nineteen seventy three buick Less Saber, the roomy sedand

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<v Speaker 1>that police were now desperate to find. For Detective Luby,

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<v Speaker 1>there was one more piece to the history besides finding

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:05.720
<v Speaker 1>that car. I knew that that car was important in

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>the case because it wasn't his and it could indicate

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 1>a co conspirator or someone else involved. The guards at

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<v Speaker 1>at Wells Fargo had indicated that they thought there was

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<v Speaker 1>more than one person involved in this because they could

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<v Speaker 1>hear even though they were restrained and they were away

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 1>from it, they could hear some kind of conversation in

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<v Speaker 1>the background of the depot. There could Victor Harrena been

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<v Speaker 1>working with someone else to pull off the robbery. It's

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:38.800
<v Speaker 1>completely plausible, and in fact, even more believable looking back

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:42.120
<v Speaker 1>and closer at the detailed accounts of what happened. There

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:45.120
<v Speaker 1>was one more thing the guards heard as they lay

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 1>wide awake on the floor while Victor made several trips

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 1>to and from the car. One hank could arguably be

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<v Speaker 1>the result of Victor in a hurry to escape with

0:26:55.880 --> 0:27:00.879
<v Speaker 1>the currency backs. But two consecutive hanks, now that's intentional.

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Why do you beat the horn? He's not saying goodbye

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:07.959
<v Speaker 1>to these two guys, He's saying, I'm coming out. And

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 1>then there's this. The West Tarford Police got word that

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<v Speaker 1>a car matching the description of the one used in

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 1>the heist had been located just outside a local airport.

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 1>It was empty, and of course then the first thing. Second,

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:26.719
<v Speaker 1>you can get a plane in and out. There's no

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:30.200
<v Speaker 1>tower there, there's no need to report when you land there.

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 1>After hours this season on White Eagle and the money

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<v Speaker 1>shows up. That was traceable money, And I'm thinking myself,

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<v Speaker 1>your son, I think is something that's organized here? If

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:51.880
<v Speaker 1>she knew she's a great actress, because she was devastated

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:54.920
<v Speaker 1>the FBI and Connecticut never woke up to this thing.

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>It was the FBI in Puerto Rico that put all together.

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 1>They were of folks who wanted Puerto Rico to be

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<v Speaker 1>part of the United States, but other folks felt that

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 1>that was not what they wanted and they wanted to

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:08.880
<v Speaker 1>be their own nation. Things we could bloat up quite

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 1>a bit, and the FBI decided that they were sick

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and tired of this business. The fact that Puerto Rico

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 1>still being a call on he kind of chose you

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 1>that they didn't get the support that they wanted. I

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 1>was ready to engage in gunfire if it had to be,

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