1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Somewhere tonight, a Wells Fargo guard and acts Wells Fargo 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: guard is on the run with seven million dollars in cash. 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: On the night of the robbery, I had chased a 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: burglar from Flatwish Avenue all around Charter rope Terrace and 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: was frustrated that he got away with like a bike 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: and maybe a VCR. It's September twelve. Jack Casey is 7 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: two years into a thirty year career with the West 8 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: Harford Police Department in central Connecticut. On this night, he's 9 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: looking for a robbery suspect and a local housing project 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: when he takes a call for a robbery in progress. 11 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: It comes in and then we gave the code for 12 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: a robbery, and then they gave the address, and I said, oh, 13 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: I'm right down the street. I'll be there within seconds. 14 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: So of course I jumped back in my cruiser. I 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: drive up the street. I'm probably here in half an it, 16 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: so I'm thinking, okay, I got a good shot of 17 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: getting these guys. Casey rolls up to what is an 18 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: unmarked Wells Fargo depot near the Hartford town line. To 19 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: an outsider, the one story building appears empty, no signs, 20 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: nobody around. When he arrives. There's no clear or obvious 21 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: indication of trouble either. The steel overhead garage doors are closed. 22 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,639 Speaker 1: Everything appears to be quiet, But Casey is the first 23 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: officer on the scene and knows better than to go rogue. Plus, 24 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: he understands, if you've got the guts to rob a 25 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: secured warehouse full of money, chances are your arm to 26 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: the teeth. Telling them on the radio, hey have then 27 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: come out, they said, we're trying. By then a couple 28 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: of other officers started showing ups, and now we're setting 29 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: up a perimeter because as far as we're concerned as 30 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: the active robbery, and there's a lot of cash on 31 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: the line. Inside that nondescript window list building, there is 32 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: over thirty million dollars on any given day, a good 33 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: portion of which is brand new money banded bills consecutive 34 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: numbers wrapped in plastic fresh from the Federal reserve, ready 35 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: to be distributed into the population. Dispatch tells Casey to 36 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: make his way towards the building's rear entrance, so he does. 37 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: Then a door swings open to reveal a visibly shaken guard. 38 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: You can tell he had some marks on his face 39 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: from the tape or whatever. I think he had a 40 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: handcuffed angling off of them, and he was really really 41 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: upset and he saw I've been robbed. We've been robbed. 42 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: Turns out there were two security guards held hostage during 43 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: the robbery. One appears to have a swollen upper lip. 44 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: The other still has some tape stuck to his hair 45 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: from being tied up. Their clothes are ruffled, and then 46 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: they start telling me a story. The guard they worked 47 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: with put a gun to their head, retinum, hand coffed on, 48 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: tied them off, put him on the floor, loaded up 49 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: a bunch of money, and left. So I said how 50 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: much let He said five million? And I'm like, what now, 51 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm aggravated because some guy just stole a bike. For 52 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: two hours, I can't find a guy, and at the 53 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: same time, this guy is stealing five million dollars. That 54 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: was the initial thought in a frenzy to report every 55 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: detail of the crime scene during those crucial first hours. 56 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: Early police reports listed the monetary loss at five million dollars, 57 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: but as it turns out, the amount of money was 58 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: far greater. The thief actually got away with a total 59 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: of seven million, seventeen thousand one hundred and fifty one dollars, 60 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: an amount equivalent today to nearly nineteen point six million. 61 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: At the time, it was one of the largest cash 62 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: heists in US history. But stealing seven million dollars, well, 63 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: that was just the beginning. My name is em William Phelps. 64 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: I'm an investigative journalist and author of more than forty 65 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: true crime books. What you were about to hear is 66 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: the true story of a heist, one that funded an 67 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: international independence movement and sparked an investigation spanning nearly four decades. 68 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: This is White Eagle. It was a Monday night in 69 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: mid September. Two Wells Fargo guards, twenty five year old 70 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: Victor Harraina and twenty one year old Tim Girard. We're 71 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: getting ready to call it a day. They were en 72 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: route from Bridgeport, Connecticut to the smugglers in a bar 73 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: and restaurant in Rocky Hill, Connecticut, the last stop of 74 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: their long day before heading back to the Wells Fargo 75 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: depot in West Harford, Connecticut and clocking out. It's a 76 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: repetitive job, with grueling hours on the road, driving to 77 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: various banks and businesses around Connecticut and Massachusetts to pick 78 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: up money and loaded into an armored vehicle, one stop 79 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: after another, pick up load, pick up load, and at 80 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: the end of the day the reverse unload count unload count. 81 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: Victor Harraine had been at it for a little over 82 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: a year, Tim Gerard just six months. Guards made just 83 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: four dollars and seventy five cents an hour, which was 84 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,679 Speaker 1: about a dollar higher than minimum wage at the time, 85 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: but a fraction of the millions of dollars in cash 86 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: they collected and handled each day. For whatever reason, they 87 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: were shorthanded, probably because it was a lousy job and 88 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: Ed mahoney has been a reporter for thirty years, many 89 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: of which have been spent at the Hartford Current. He 90 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: was part of the team that want to pull a 91 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: Surprise in the late nineties for coverage of what was 92 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: at the time a rare occurrence, a shooting rampage in 93 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: which a Connecticut State Lottery employee killed four senior supervisors 94 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: and then himself. Mahoney's covered politics, local news and is 95 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: no stranger to complex investigative crime stories. He explains that 96 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: the two guards that night were in a rush to 97 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 1: get back to the depot Monday night football was on TV, 98 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: and their boss twenty five year old Jim McKean wanted 99 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: to go home and watch the San Diego Chargers play 100 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, but being understaffed, everything was already 101 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: behind schedule, and there was a half a ton of 102 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: cash that still needed to be counted and stacked. According 103 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: to police reports, when the guards got back to the 104 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: depot around nine o'clock, Victor offered to unload the money 105 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: by himself. His partner Tim refused because he'd gotten into 106 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: trouble in the past for leaving early. He decided to 107 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: stick her out, so Victor thought it would be he 108 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: and one of a person in the view pub. It 109 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: turns out it's Heat and two others. Boss Jim McKean 110 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: was waiting inside the dispatch office, sitting at a desk 111 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: to the left of the vault where the money collected 112 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: by the guards was to be kept. He had one 113 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: half of the vaults combination, Victor had the other. After 114 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: Victor helped open the vault, he went back to the 115 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: truck and began unloading the cash they'd collected that day. 116 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: Bags of coins which stayed unload later, and twenty six 117 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: bags of currency, which was brought into the vault on 118 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: a wheeled cart. There are two ways to enter the 119 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: building's dispatch office. The main way is via a keypad 120 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: entrance through double steel doors and an observation port. The 121 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: other is through a bolted door that opens into the 122 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: garage area, though it can only be unlocked from inside 123 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: the dispatch office. Basically, the only way to gain access 124 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: to all that cash was to already be inside. They're 125 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: sitting there and they're counting these millions of dollars and 126 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: stacking it up and making notes and writing up paperwork 127 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: and running it through adding machines and stuff like that, 128 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: and Victor kind of manivorous himself behind this boss is 129 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: sitting at the table and slips out the boss's pistol 130 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: province holster and says, okay, guys, I'm not fooling around. 131 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot you if you don't do what i'm 132 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: gonna tell you to do. He slapped the other card 133 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: and said, hey, this is no joke. And they hear 134 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: him loading a shotgun and a handgun. So you know 135 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: what you're thinking in your mind, you're gonna be executed. 136 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: Boss Jim McKean would later tell police that he thought 137 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: he was going to be killed. Quote all I said 138 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: was Vic, and he said, Jim, I've got nothing against you. 139 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm just tired of working for other people. It looks 140 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: like he had everything with him. He needed to restrain 141 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: one person, but there were two people, so for example, 142 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: had one pair of handcuffs, so he had to, you know, 143 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: use the handcuffs and conversation with some tape and some 144 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: rope and stuff like that. Both men were gagged in 145 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: order to lie on the floor. Jim McKeon's hands were 146 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: handcuffed behind his back. Tim Gerard was hog tied with 147 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: white adhesive tape and nylon twine. Police Chief Francis Reynolds 148 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: spoke to reporters the following day. Coach were then placed 149 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: over their heads, at which time Greena advised the men 150 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: that he was going to give them a shot that 151 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: would put him to sleep. It looks like he injected 152 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: them both, but neither one of them got knocked out, 153 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: So maybe it's because he divided at those for one 154 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: person among two people. That solution doctors would later analyze 155 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: through tests was allegedly a mixture of aspirin and water. 156 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: The two guards later told police Victor appeared highly agitated. 157 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: He turned on the intercom to hear if anyone was outside. 158 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: Tim Gerard said, when he started to wriggle around, Victor 159 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: hit him a few times and warned both men that 160 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: they had accidentally choked themselves if they tried to break 161 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: free their incapacity of their tape. They're tied up to 162 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: their light on the ground, and they just hear him 163 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: going back and forth, and they hear zippers like somebody's 164 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: filling up great big, huge gym bags or sleeping bags 165 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: with cash. It's actually hard to believe someone pulled it off. 166 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: Victor Haraina emptied the steel vault of all currency with 167 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: the exception of one and two dollar bills. He then 168 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: loaded approximately between nine hundred and twelve pounds of cash 169 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: into a buic less saber parked in one of the 170 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: deposed loading bays, conveniently out of public view. All this 171 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: within just ninety minutes. What he was doing was he 172 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: was loading up the cash into bags and stuffing it 173 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: into the car, and it got to the point where 174 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: there is so much I mean, there was barely off 175 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: room for him to get into the car. There was 176 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: so much cash in it. So much. In fact, Victor 177 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: not only had to take out the car, spare tire 178 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: and bumper jack to make room for the money. He 179 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: also left behind a few currency bags worth hundreds of 180 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars. Victor then got into the buick, beat 181 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: the horn twice, and drove out of the Deepot parking lot. 182 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: Of course, there's a national alert again Jack Casey, that 183 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: goes out all across the country. So when we enter it, 184 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: we say, you know, arm robbery, West Hartford seven million, 185 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: that's going to catch the eye of most police departments, 186 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: especially along the corridor. By that point, Victor Harraina already 187 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: had a solid lead ahead of law enforcement, we thought 188 00:11:55,679 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: that night because they're heat accustomed tight up. He probably 189 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: figured he's got a lot of time because he's thinking, 190 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: all these guys are probably gonna get found in the morning. 191 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: So the fact that they were able to wiggle free. 192 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: Did the alarm have helped yet there? But we figured, okay, 193 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: that he doesn't have as much time as he thought. 194 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: He's not that far ahead of us now. But as 195 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: it turns out, he was far enough ahead to get away. 196 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: The search for Victor Harraina began almost immediately after police 197 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: responded to the scene. Today, they might have found him 198 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: within hours, but in it was far easier to vanish. 199 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: GPS tracking wasn't available to civilians yet three nine eleven, 200 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: people traveled more freely and could pay with cash, and 201 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: it would be another twenty years before the majority of 202 00:12:55,480 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: the population carried cell phones in their pockets. Was also 203 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: a chaotic time in the nation. Less than two weeks 204 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: before the robbery, the Soviet Union shot down a Korean 205 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: Airlines flight, killing everyone on board, including a U. S congressman. 206 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: At the time, there was concern about what it all 207 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: meant for the US and whether the Cold War would 208 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: heat back up. President Reagan called the attack barbaric. Our 209 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: first emotions are angered, disbelief and profound sadness. While events 210 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan and elsewhere have left few illusions about the 211 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: willingness of the Soviet Union to advance its interest through 212 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: violence and intimidation, all of us had hoped that certain 213 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:48,599 Speaker 1: irreducible standards of civilized behavior nonetheless obtained. In West Harford, 214 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: police were busy and rattled. The town had recently been 215 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: terrorized by a serial arsonist who had been sending fires 216 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: to local synagogues. We're having a series so arson's in 217 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: town that appeared to be targeting the Jewish neighborhood. They 218 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: were high profile cases. We were getting a lot of 219 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: heat with them, and it was a lot of hours 220 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: beginning put into it. We were flat out. Steve Luby 221 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: was a detective with the West Tarford Police Department. He 222 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: worked in the Special Investigations Division, a small team mainly 223 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: focused on narcotics cases, internal affairs, and arson's the ladder 224 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: of which wholly occupied Luby's time that summer. He says, 225 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: up until then, West Tarford was a fairly quiet place 226 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: to work. It was primarily a sleepier suburb of Harvard. 227 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: A lot of people would work in Harford that lived there, 228 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: and they would commute back and forth. We had some 229 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: murders periodically, not not nothing like Hartford, you know, the 230 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: arson cases that became like national news overnight. Within one week, 231 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: the arsonists torched two local synagogues, and less than a 232 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: month later, a state representatives house was set on fire 233 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: as she and her family slept. Thankfully, no one was hurt, 234 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: and the cops eventually caught the guy who did it, 235 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: a seventeen year old kid who was a member of 236 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: the first synagogue. Targeted everyone I've spoken to from the area, 237 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: has said it was a terrifying few months with lots 238 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: of national attention. By the time the Wells Fargo Heights happened, 239 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: law enforcement was spent. I was home in bed, trying 240 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: to catch up on some sleep. I got a call 241 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: from dispatch indicating that they wanted me to return to duty. 242 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: When the phone rang, I figured it was another arson 243 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: fire or something that I was going in for. And 244 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: who recalled me? I asked him, you know, what's what's 245 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: this all about? They said, getting her right away. We 246 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: just had a robbery at Wells Fargo and it's a 247 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: huge robbery. You want to address these things earlier she can, 248 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: because you're losing information the longer you go. So we 249 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: have really a sitdown. Was more or less you do this, 250 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: you go here, you do that. Police had a slight advantage. 251 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: Unlike most cases, they already had a suspect, Victor Manuel 252 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: Harrena a five ft six sixty pounds, brown hair, green eyes. 253 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: They had a description of the car he drove away in, 254 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: a green three four door Buick Le Saber, and he 255 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: knew where he lived Warner Street, downtown Hartford, just a 256 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: fifteen minute drive from the Wells Fargo depot, plus they 257 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: learned one critical piece of information about his personal life. 258 00:16:44,240 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: Victor Harrana was due to get married four days At 259 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: approximately twelve fifteen am, nearly an hour after the Wells 260 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: Fargo guards freed themselves and called for help, law enforcement 261 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: approached the multi family building in Hartford where Victor Harraina 262 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: shared an apartment with his fiance. An armed robber in 263 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: possession of seven million dollars in cash was on the lamp. 264 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: There was no risk too small to take. The police 265 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: were armed in the perimeter of the building secured. Jack 266 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: Casey was among those present. We're outside, saying, hey, we 267 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: could steel and get a search warrant if you want 268 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: to consent to a search. Save everybody, about of time. 269 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: If he's not in there, it'll be quick. We'll go in, 270 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 1: we'll get out. Victor's fiancee, Anna Soto, poked her head 271 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: out from the third floor porch. She seemed upset, but 272 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: also cooperative. According to police reports, She allowed the officers 273 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: inside to search the home. I remember the shotgun and 274 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: I was searching the room, and I think it was 275 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: a dover started coming and growling, and I leveled the 276 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: gun and I said, hey, you have to get the 277 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: get the dog, and she said okay, okay, which turns 278 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: out later on it's like she felt threatened by the 279 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: shotgun or whatever. But in any event, at that time 280 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: I opened the closet and nurse big, huge duffle bag. 281 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: So in my mind I'm thinking, wow, it's here. Here's 282 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: the money. So now I'm thinking, okay, he's in here somewhere. 283 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: So now we're looking for him, looking for him because 284 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: we're thinking that's the money. Eventually, after we clear the house, 285 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: we unzipped the baggage shoes, it shoots. The search for 286 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: Victor proof fruitless. Neither he nor the money was inside 287 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: that apartment, though the police did seize a number of 288 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: Victor's belongings, including his bank book and telephone records, an 289 00:18:55,440 --> 00:19:00,120 Speaker 1: address book with directions written inside, a letter written in Spanish, 290 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 1: a road map, a postcard, and most importantly, his passport, 291 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: leaving Victor with even less of a chance a flee 292 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: in the country. His fiance, Anna, said she didn't know 293 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: where he was. She agreed to go to the station, 294 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: even riding in the passenger seat of one of the 295 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: patrol cars, to voluntarily give a statement. Regarding Victor and 296 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: what she knew. Back at the station, Detective Steve Luby 297 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: was waiting for her arrival. I got a sign to 298 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: see if I could talk her into a written statement 299 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: and find out what she knew. Luby was tasked to 300 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: follow up on their two biggest leads at the time, 301 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: what if anything Victor herain A's fiance might know about 302 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: the robbery, and how police could find a getaway car 303 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: with Victor and the seven million in cash tucked away inside. 304 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: She was a personal kid. She was scared before he 305 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: even got into the background stuff. Guy remember her saying 306 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: she was freezing cold and the office was cold at 307 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: the time, But oftentimes when people are nervous, they kind 308 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: of come across really cold too. So I tried to 309 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: manipulate the heat in the office by putting the paper 310 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: clip in the thermostat and driving it up and got 311 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: her got herself. I wanted to get her comfortable with 312 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: me and see if I could get her relax a little. 313 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: Before he even started his statement, Luby took his time, 314 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: hoping to of course, went over her trust. I don't 315 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: go right to paper. I sit down trying to have 316 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: a conversation because she was frightened, and when you look 317 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: at someone being frightened, you don't often know are they 318 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: frightened because they're part of this? Are they just frightened 319 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: to be now in the police station addressing a crime 320 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: that either they were a victim of or a witness 321 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: to try to get that report on and and I, 322 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: I think I was pretty good at getting her comfortable. 323 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: She seemed comfortable, and she calmed down. She greeted a statement. 324 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: Luby knew how how important Anna could be within the 325 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: scope of the investigation. He needed to know if she 326 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: was telling the truth, and says after a while he 327 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: got the impression that she wasn't being up front, so 328 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: he took a more aggressive approach. And I told her 329 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: he's got he's got guns. He's out there now. Every 330 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: cop in New England, it's going out over the country 331 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: has his description. If you love him, you don't want 332 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: him to get stopped in the middle of the night, 333 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: some dark corner, some cop panics, he goes for a gun, 334 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: The cop goes for a gun, and in your boyfriend 335 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: ends up getting killed. You know, I tried to use 336 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,239 Speaker 1: that angle to have her be more concerned about, you know, 337 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: not so much protecting him but getting him safe and 338 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: making sure he didn't get hurt when he got apprehended. 339 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: It seemed like a scare tactic. But I'm not sure 340 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: that's what Loubi thought. He says, Anna didn't know what 341 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: she was stepping into because remember, Victor was dangerous. The 342 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: guy was on the run with two loaded guns and 343 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: millions of dollars. I wanted to put down on paper 344 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: that they lived together and that they were engaged to 345 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: be married. And I think the day before she had 346 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: actually gotten the marriage license certificate or something to get 347 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: married or whatever it was from city hall. This was true. 348 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: The couple had planned to marry days after the heist, 349 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: her first marriage Victor's third. It's unclear whether Victor intended 350 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: to go through with the wedding. Still, as far as 351 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: Detective Luby was concerned, Anna Soto had been under the 352 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: impression that they would be married by the end of 353 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: that weekend. He used to call her before he get home. 354 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: They'd be in voice contact a lot during the night, 355 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 1: you know, like two love birds there. You know, he 356 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: was on the phone, she was on the phone, and 357 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: she didn't hear from him. That night. Apparently, according to her, 358 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: we were over relatives of his that, uh, you know, 359 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: he's Apparently, according to her, he was very devoted to 360 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: his mother, who lived in a aim general area in 361 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: the south end of Harvard. He had some brothers that 362 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: were not local that he was not close to. So 363 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: the statement was basically a chance to get get information 364 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: on the family, his routines, any close friends. Surprisingly, she 365 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: he didn't, according to her, didn't have a lot of 366 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: male friends or friends even on the job. He didn't 367 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: get warm with people on job. They didn't go out 368 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: socialize with people that much. And so I'm thinking, my 369 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: cynical minds, thinking that she's covering for some friend that 370 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: might be involved by telling me he doesn't have a 371 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 1: lot of friends. So it went from me feeling that 372 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: she was probably the fiance that's all upset, that knows 373 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: nothing about this, And now as I went on with her, 374 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, she's not giving me everything here he was right. 375 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: For the record, here's what Anna said in her statements 376 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: during the first few days of the investigation that on 377 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: the day of the robbery, Victor left home between ten 378 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: fifteen and ten thirty in the morning and caught the 379 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: bus to work. She said, she went with her cousin 380 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 1: to get the marriage license at city hall, took her 381 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: dogs to the park, and then went home alone. One 382 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: specific detail Louby took note of was that Annac claim 383 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: she had never seen the green Buick Victor used in 384 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: the robbery, and that Victor didn't have any friends who 385 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: owned that type of car. At some point I asked 386 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: her does he drive a Buick at all? This described 387 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: the car involved, and she said absolutely no. We knew 388 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: Victor had used that night, had driven a car that 389 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: was not normally his car. The car itself, the Buick, 390 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: It was linked back to the Ugly Duckling or a 391 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 1: rental wreckt or one of those used car beat up 392 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 1: rental places, and you know we were. They were searching 393 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: everywhere for the car. Victor in fact, had driven several 394 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: different rental cars over the past few weeks, all of 395 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: which were from the nearby Ugly Duckling rent a car 396 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: and now defunct rental car company that was once considered 397 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: competition to brands like Budget and Hurts. In August, two 398 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: weeks before the robbery, Victor deposited two cash for a 399 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven Chevy Malibu, only to return it the 400 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: following morning because his quote plans hadn't worked out. Ten 401 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: days later, Victor called Ugly Duckling to reserve another full 402 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: size car for the following Monday, the day of the robbery, 403 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: but he was told the only way he'd be guaranteed 404 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: a car on that day would be to rent it 405 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: over the weekend. That second rental, a nineteen seventy eight 406 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: Mercury Marquis, was again returned the following day due to 407 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: the engine catching fire. As a replacement, Victor was given 408 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 1: a nineteen seventy three buick Less Saber, the roomy sedand 409 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: that police were now desperate to find. For Detective Luby, 410 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: there was one more piece to the history besides finding 411 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: that car. I knew that that car was important in 412 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: the case because it wasn't his and it could indicate 413 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: a co conspirator or someone else involved. The guards at 414 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: at Wells Fargo had indicated that they thought there was 415 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: more than one person involved in this because they could 416 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: hear even though they were restrained and they were away 417 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: from it, they could hear some kind of conversation in 418 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: the background of the depot. There could Victor Harrena been 419 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: working with someone else to pull off the robbery. It's 420 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: completely plausible, and in fact, even more believable looking back 421 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: and closer at the detailed accounts of what happened. There 422 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: was one more thing the guards heard as they lay 423 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: wide awake on the floor while Victor made several trips 424 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: to and from the car. One hank could arguably be 425 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: the result of Victor in a hurry to escape with 426 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: the currency backs. But two consecutive hanks, now that's intentional. 427 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: Why do you beat the horn? He's not saying goodbye 428 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 1: to these two guys, He's saying, I'm coming out. And 429 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: then there's this. The West Tarford Police got word that 430 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: a car matching the description of the one used in 431 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: the heist had been located just outside a local airport. 432 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: It was empty, and of course then the first thing. Second, 433 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 1: you can get a plane in and out. There's no 434 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: tower there, there's no need to report when you land there. 435 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: After hours this season on White Eagle and the money 436 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: shows up. That was traceable money, And I'm thinking myself, 437 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: your son, I think is something that's organized here? If 438 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: she knew she's a great actress, because she was devastated 439 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: the FBI and Connecticut never woke up to this thing. 440 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: It was the FBI in Puerto Rico that put all together. 441 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: They were of folks who wanted Puerto Rico to be 442 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: part of the United States, but other folks felt that 443 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: that was not what they wanted and they wanted to 444 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: be their own nation. Things we could bloat up quite 445 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: a bit, and the FBI decided that they were sick 446 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: and tired of this business. The fact that Puerto Rico 447 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: still being a call on he kind of chose you 448 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: that they didn't get the support that they wanted. I 449 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: was ready to engage in gunfire if it had to be, 450 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: to protect my comrades from from getting caught. This whole 451 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: issue is ignited a firestorm of controversy. What we want 452 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: to know is why did the President make this decision? 453 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: White Eagle has written an executive produced by me Em 454 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: William Phelps and Diheart executive producer Christina Everett. Additional writing 455 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: by Our Supervisor as In producer Julia Weaver. 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