WEBVTT - SYMHC Classics: Five First Flights

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Saturday. Today is the anniversary of the Wright brothers

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<v Speaker 1>first controlled, powered sustained flight, which took place on the

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<v Speaker 1>outer banks of North Carolina in three So Today's Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>classic is our episode five, First Flight, which talks about

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<v Speaker 1>the Wright brothers first flight, as well as the flights

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<v Speaker 1>of four other aviators. Near the beginning of this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>we note that the people were talking about it in

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<v Speaker 1>it are all men, but that we have a whole

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<v Speaker 1>section of our website devoted to women in aviation. Sadly,

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<v Speaker 1>the format of our website totally changed a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>We no longer have that round up page, but we

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<v Speaker 1>do still have all those episodes and they include people

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<v Speaker 1>like Jackie Cochrane, Harriet Quimby, Bessie Coleman, Beryl Markham, Lillian Bland,

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<v Speaker 1>the Night Witches, and the women Air Force Service pilots.

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<v Speaker 1>So enjoy Welcome to Stuff you missed in History Class

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<v Speaker 1>production of My Heart Radio. Hello, and welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tray cy Vee Wilson and I'm Holly fry So, Holly,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I have been hosts of the show for

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<v Speaker 1>a little over four years. Now is that all actually?

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<v Speaker 1>Now that I think about it. Some patterns have emerged

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<v Speaker 1>in the comments that we get when we share stories

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<v Speaker 1>on particular topics over those UH coming up on five years,

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<v Speaker 1>like mentioning Paul Revere prompts comments about Sybil Lettington, who

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about in Six More Impossible episodes. UH posts

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<v Speaker 1>about George Gordon lord Byron usually get replies about his

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<v Speaker 1>daughter Ada Lovelace, who has also been the subject of

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<v Speaker 1>a past episode. UM. Anytime we post anything about the

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<v Speaker 1>Right Brothers, we get lots of comments about other people

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<v Speaker 1>who are not at the Right Brothers who we should

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about. Yeah, various levels from hey did you

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<v Speaker 1>know about too? You're horrible and you ignored these important people. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So one reason for all these Right Brothers comments is

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<v Speaker 1>that the Right Brothers First has a lot of qualifiers

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<v Speaker 1>on it. People flew in balloons well before the Rights

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<v Speaker 1>took to the air in a plane. There were a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of gliders before them, as well as including ones

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<v Speaker 1>that they designed while they were working toward powered flight.

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<v Speaker 1>Powered dirigibles also predate powered airplanes, and there were also

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of heavier than airplanes that managed to get

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<v Speaker 1>up off the ground, but not necessarily in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that you could describe as flying falling with style. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So when people say that the Right Brothers were first

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<v Speaker 1>in quotation marks, uh, there's a series of very particular

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<v Speaker 1>circumstances we're talking about. We're talking about an aircraft heavier

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<v Speaker 1>than air that achieved a sustained and controlled and self

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<v Speaker 1>powered flight with a person on board. All that stuff together,

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<v Speaker 1>and really a lot of these distinctions are kind of arbitrary.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also some legitimate conversation to be had about just

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<v Speaker 1>how controlled the White Wright brothers first flights really were. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there was some careening involved in some cases. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about all of that today and some of

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<v Speaker 1>the other folks who come up pretty often as people

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<v Speaker 1>who maybe should be considered to have flown before the

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<v Speaker 1>Right Brothers. And we're going to say right from the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning that all the men that we're talking about today,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all really remarkable in their own way, regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>whether we get to say first before their achievement. And

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<v Speaker 1>we also want to know that even though the people

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<v Speaker 1>that we're talking about today are all men, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a whole women in Aviation tag on our website that

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<v Speaker 1>has lots of groundbreaking female aviators as well. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>leaving them out, but we're gonna art just as a

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<v Speaker 1>level set with the Right Brothers. So even among people

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<v Speaker 1>who agree that they were first, there is still something

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<v Speaker 1>to disagree on, and that's whether Ohio, where the Right

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<v Speaker 1>Brothers were from, or North Carolina, where they refined their

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<v Speaker 1>glider designs and took their first powered flight, should get

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<v Speaker 1>most of the credit. Whether this interstate disagreement is good

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<v Speaker 1>natured or not really depends on who you ask. And

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<v Speaker 1>both states have references to flight, and the Right Brothers

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<v Speaker 1>flyer on their license plates and their state quarters. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Right Brothers started experimenting with flight in the late

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen nineties. Wilbert wrote to the Smithsonian and to ask

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<v Speaker 1>for all the prior research that they had on it,

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<v Speaker 1>saying that he was quote an enthusiast but not a

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<v Speaker 1>crank overall, though you know, aside from talking to the

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<v Speaker 1>Smithsonian and whatnot, they were comparatively quiet about what they

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<v Speaker 1>were doing. Other innovators, including Samuel Langley of the Smithsonian.

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<v Speaker 1>We're making very public attempts at flight, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>actually Langley that the Smithsonian first supported as being able

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<v Speaker 1>to claim first flight status. The Right Brothers, on the

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<v Speaker 1>other hand, were tinkering, refining, and learning from their mistakes,

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<v Speaker 1>all without a lot of fanfare. This would become doubly

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<v Speaker 1>true after their first successful flight, at which point they

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<v Speaker 1>became very secretive, especially once they were embroiled in a

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<v Speaker 1>patent or over their flight control system. So the Right

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<v Speaker 1>Brothers shows the outer banks of North Carolina as their

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<v Speaker 1>testing ground because the constant wind helped with the lift.

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<v Speaker 1>They first refined the gliders that they were working on

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<v Speaker 1>until they were satisfied with their aerodynamics, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>turned their attention to power, developing a lightweight gasoline engine

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<v Speaker 1>UH and a propeller. The end result was the six

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<v Speaker 1>five pound eleven point eight one horsepower Flyer, which they

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<v Speaker 1>tried to use for a powered controlled flight with a

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<v Speaker 1>person on board on December fourteenth, three. This attempt at

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<v Speaker 1>kill Devil Hills with Wilbur flying did not go well UH.

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<v Speaker 1>Other than creating a wheeled undercarriage. They launched the flyer

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<v Speaker 1>from a wooden rail, which it traveled down on a

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<v Speaker 1>wheeled dolly on December fourteenth. Wilbur climbed too sharply after

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<v Speaker 1>leaving that rail, and the flyers stalled and crashed. They

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<v Speaker 1>had it repaired in time for another attempt on December three,

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<v Speaker 1>and at about ten thirty five in the morning, Orville

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<v Speaker 1>made a brief and as we noted at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the show, somewhat careening hundred and twenty ft or

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six meter flight stayed aloft for about twelve seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>They had set up a camera ahead of time, and

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<v Speaker 1>John T. Daniels activated the shutter to take the now

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<v Speaker 1>famous picture of the flyer aloft with Wilbur running alongside

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<v Speaker 1>of it. They tried three more times that day, taking turns,

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<v Speaker 1>with their best attempt being there last of the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>Wilbur flew eight hundred fifty nine feet that's about two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty two ms in just under a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the flyer pitched and, in Orville's words quote, darted

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<v Speaker 1>into the ground. They sent their father a telegram that

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<v Speaker 1>night to tell him the news. Unfortunately, back in their

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<v Speaker 1>base camp, a gust of wind flipped the flyer over

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<v Speaker 1>and wrecked it, and at that point it was too

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<v Speaker 1>badly damaged to be easily repaired, so that put a

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<v Speaker 1>temporary into their attempts at flight. The Rights kept refining

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<v Speaker 1>and improving their designs from there, testing and making adjustments

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<v Speaker 1>as they went. On October five, n five, they flew

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight kilometers near Dayton, Ohio in the right flyer three.

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<v Speaker 1>This was its own type of first a flight measured

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<v Speaker 1>in kilometers instead of meters was a feat at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Next we are going to talk about perhaps the rights

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<v Speaker 1>most fanciful challengers was self taught French engineer and aviator

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<v Speaker 1>at Claimant Adair. He was born on February four, eight

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<v Speaker 1>forty one, and like a lot of the other early aviators,

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<v Speaker 1>he got his start with ballooning. He made his first

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<v Speaker 1>heavier than aircraft in eighteen seventy three, which was hold

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<v Speaker 1>on a tether kind of like a kite. He also

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<v Speaker 1>studied birds and bats, and they would go on to

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<v Speaker 1>influence his aircraft designs. Adair's first powered aircraft was a

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<v Speaker 1>monoplane that he named Aol after al of Greek mythology,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was granted a patent for it on August eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>On October nine, eighteen ninety, it left the ground and

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<v Speaker 1>moved about a hundred and sixty five feet that's about

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<v Speaker 1>fifty meters. But this wasn't really so much a flight

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<v Speaker 1>as it was a hop he'd successfully made a vessel

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<v Speaker 1>that could go in the air and come back down,

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<v Speaker 1>but it couldn't stay in the air in any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of meaningful way. There claimed he made another more successful

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<v Speaker 1>attempt in September of the following year, although historians generally

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<v Speaker 1>doubt that that one actually happened. In eight two, a

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<v Speaker 1>Day was granted a subsidy from the French Minister of

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<v Speaker 1>War to work on another aircraft. The result, after a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of iterations, was the Avian three, an another monoplane

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<v Speaker 1>with twin twenty horsepower steam engines with foot pedals to

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<v Speaker 1>control the rudder, the rear wheels, and the speed of

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<v Speaker 1>the propellers. There was also a crank that could change

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<v Speaker 1>the positioning of the wings. This aircraft never really made

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<v Speaker 1>it off the ground. On October twel it traveled around

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<v Speaker 1>a circular track in Satsori, France, but it never really

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<v Speaker 1>lifted off. It did briefly come off the track during

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<v Speaker 1>a test on October four, but it didn't remain airborne.

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<v Speaker 1>This was you could imagine as like if something hit

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<v Speaker 1>a hit a bump and sort of leapt up in

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<v Speaker 1>the air. It was that level of yeah, because this

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<v Speaker 1>project was being funded by the Ministry of War. The

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<v Speaker 1>government had a representative witnessing these tests, and that general's

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<v Speaker 1>assessment that witnessed them was that though the Avon three

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<v Speaker 1>had not successfully flown, those tests should continue. The Ministry

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<v Speaker 1>of War disagreed and it cut its losses at sixty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand francs. The avance he eventually made its way to

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<v Speaker 1>Muse desal Emitier in Paris, but in nineteen o six,

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<v Speaker 1>out Berto Santos Dumont, who you're going to talk about next,

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<v Speaker 1>made Europe's first public airplane flight. So claiment and air

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<v Speaker 1>was really frustrated that he had not gotten here first,

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<v Speaker 1>and he started claiming that he had made a successful

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<v Speaker 1>flight aboard the Avian three, having gone at least three

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<v Speaker 1>or ninety meters during those October fourteenth tests. He offered

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<v Speaker 1>no substantiation for this claim, though, and it directly contradicted

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<v Speaker 1>what the general had reported. Flight historians generally agree that

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<v Speaker 1>this is a fabrication, trying to get in on that

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<v Speaker 1>um that's sweet, sweet first money. Of all the aircraft

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<v Speaker 1>that we're talking about today, Adairs looked the least like

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<v Speaker 1>a conventional airplane. He fashioned his with wings pattern after

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<v Speaker 1>a bat and the avy On three's propeller blades looked

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<v Speaker 1>like feathers. It looks like if a tiny race of

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<v Speaker 1>forest creatures in a video game tried to make an airplane,

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<v Speaker 1>which to me sounds delightful and I wish they all

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<v Speaker 1>looked that way. It is pretty delightful. There will be

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of it as part of the art for

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<v Speaker 1>this on our website. So it doesn't appear that he

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<v Speaker 1>ever actually made a successful sustained flight, but he did

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<v Speaker 1>succeed and innovated in other areas, including in telephone technology.

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<v Speaker 1>He gave a demonstration of his stereo telephone device at

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<v Speaker 1>Paris Exposition of Electricity and he earned a patent for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Later that same year. Adair died into Lose a March

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<v Speaker 1>fifth n So next we are going to get to another, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty fascinating character. That is Alberto Santos Dumont. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about that after a break. Unlike Claiman Adair, who,

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<v Speaker 1>as we said earlier, was self taught, Alberto Santos Dumont

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<v Speaker 1>was formally try in physics and mechanics, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>in chemistry and an astronomy. He was born in Brazil

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<v Speaker 1>on July seventy three, and he was the son of

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<v Speaker 1>a wealthy coffee planter. When he was eighteen, he went

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<v Speaker 1>to Paris to study. He was twenty five when he

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<v Speaker 1>started experimenting with ballooning, making his first ascent in Paris

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<v Speaker 1>on July four in a balloon he had named Brazil,

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<v Speaker 1>and he quickly started trying to figure out how to

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<v Speaker 1>build a practical balloon that could be steered so. At

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<v Speaker 1>that point, as you may recall from our numerous episodes

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<v Speaker 1>on balloon ing, most balloons could change altitudes, but they

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<v Speaker 1>were really at the mercy of the wind when it

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<v Speaker 1>came to the direction of their travel. Figuring out how

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<v Speaker 1>to make a reliably steerable balloon required him to rethink

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<v Speaker 1>basically everything from the shape of the balloon itself, to

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<v Speaker 1>the materials it was made up, to the system used

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<v Speaker 1>to steer, to the engine used to drive it. He

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<v Speaker 1>wound up designing his own three point five horsepower gasoline

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<v Speaker 1>powered internal combustion in that being one that was safe

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<v Speaker 1>enough to use an hydrogen filled bag of gas, which

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<v Speaker 1>at the time was quite a feat like making an

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<v Speaker 1>internal combustion engine that was was safe enough and reliable

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<v Speaker 1>enough to not set that bag of gas on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a big deal, and the Santos Dumont number one,

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<v Speaker 1>his first attempt at a steered balloon, ascended on September eighteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>He tinkered with the design and the Santos Dumont number

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<v Speaker 1>three ascended on November eighteen ninety. He was able to

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<v Speaker 1>steer it around the Eiffel Tower several times before landing.

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<v Speaker 1>On October nineteenth, nineteen o one, the Santos Dumont number

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<v Speaker 1>six took off from Saint Cloud, circled the Eiffel Tower

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<v Speaker 1>and returned, and under thirty minutes was earned the Aero

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<v Speaker 1>Club of France's Deutsch Prize, which had been announced more

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<v Speaker 1>than a year before in an effort to inspire aeronautical innovation.

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<v Speaker 1>This prize, which I mean this was an accomplishment for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>They basically this prize at a hundred thousand francs, which

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<v Speaker 1>they did because they didn't think it was actually possible

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<v Speaker 1>that anybody would pull it off. So he won that

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<v Speaker 1>prize and distributed a quarter of it to his crew

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<v Speaker 1>and then gave the rest of it to the Parisian poor.

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<v Speaker 1>And at first they actually tried to deny him the

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<v Speaker 1>prize because it took a minute in twenty five seconds

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<v Speaker 1>to secure the aircraft at the finish line, putting the

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<v Speaker 1>trek just over that thirty minute mark. He offered to

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<v Speaker 1>do the whole thing over again, and the judging committee

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately reversed their decision. So this was the first really

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<v Speaker 1>effective demonstration of a practical airship. Previous attempts at airships

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<v Speaker 1>had been a lot more limited than this design. But

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<v Speaker 1>after this success, Santos S. Dumont decided that dirigibles were

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<v Speaker 1>way too influenced by weather condition to ever by weather

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<v Speaker 1>conditions to ever become a truly workable method of transportation.

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<v Speaker 1>So he turned his attention to heavier than airplanes. So

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<v Speaker 1>back in Brazil he did the fourteen bees or if

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at its fourteen dash b I s and

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<v Speaker 1>that's a boxy looking biplane with a twenty four horsepower motor.

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<v Speaker 1>It looked boxy because it was designed from box kites,

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<v Speaker 1>and unlike the Wright brothers who used a wooden launching

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<v Speaker 1>rail to become airborne, he wanted to make an aircraft

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<v Speaker 1>that could take off under its own means. His first

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<v Speaker 1>attempt to do so, in July of nineteen o six failed.

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<v Speaker 1>Another attempt on September seven barely left the ground, and

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<v Speaker 1>then a few days later he made it a meter

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<v Speaker 1>off the ground. And every time he would sort of

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<v Speaker 1>address the problems that came up. Whatever he discovered that

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like it was preventing him from reaching its successful flight,

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<v Speaker 1>he would refine the design and then he would try again.

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<v Speaker 1>On October twenty three, nineteen o six, the fourteen Bees

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<v Speaker 1>took off, traveled about sixty meters at about three ft

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<v Speaker 1>in the air, and then landed. A flight on November twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen o six, flew two and twenty. Both of these

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<v Speaker 1>were obviously after the December seventeen three Right Brothers flight,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was in fact inspired by that success. The

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<v Speaker 1>reason that people point to Alberto Santos Dumont over the

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<v Speaker 1>Right Brothers is that this whole distinction of the wheeled

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<v Speaker 1>undercarriage on the fourteen Beasts versus the wooden launching rail

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<v Speaker 1>that the Right flyer was using. The argument is that

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<v Speaker 1>the Rights flyer doesn't count because the plane relied on

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<v Speaker 1>separate pieces to take off rather than an integrated set

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<v Speaker 1>of wheels that were actually part of the aircraft. They're

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<v Speaker 1>also some very passionate Santos Dumont supporters who argue that

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<v Speaker 1>the rights didn't fly in three at all, suggesting that

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<v Speaker 1>all their secrecy was really a cover up, and that

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<v Speaker 1>there continued use of a launching rail was evidence that

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<v Speaker 1>they had never really perfected their earlier designs. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I would go so far as to

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<v Speaker 1>say that's accurate, But in terms of this was a

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<v Speaker 1>self contained aircraft that took off an or its own

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<v Speaker 1>power rather than using a launching rail I got in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion is that actually has some merit. Yeah. Santos

0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Dumont didn't stop with the fourteen Bees. He went on

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<v Speaker 1>to design the Demoisille or Dragonfly, a practical light aircraft,

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<v Speaker 1>and he published the plans for anyone to use to

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<v Speaker 1>build their own. But in nineteen ten he was seriously

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<v Speaker 1>hurt in a plane crash, and that led to him

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<v Speaker 1>having a number of ongoing physical issues and it kept

0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:31.280
<v Speaker 1>him from ever flying again. He had also genuinely, passionately

0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:34.520
<v Speaker 1>loved flight, and he was terribly dismayed at the growing

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<v Speaker 1>use of aircraft in warfare, and he was especially upset

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<v Speaker 1>by because he felt like he was personally responsible. There

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<v Speaker 1>had been so many developments and aviation that were either

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<v Speaker 1>his or that built off of work that he had done,

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<v Speaker 1>and in addition to the lingering effects of the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ten crash, he also became seriously ill. He died by

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<v Speaker 1>suicide on July twenty thirty two. In addition to the

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<v Speaker 1>aviation awards he earned during his lifetime, he was a

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<v Speaker 1>charismatic showman who became something of a celebrity. Contemporary accounts

0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:10.280
<v Speaker 1>also describe him as flamboyant and somewhat feminine, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>been some speculation about what his sexual orientation might have been. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>he is still a highly revered figure in Brazil, known

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<v Speaker 1>as the father of the Brazilian Air Force. Multiple roads

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<v Speaker 1>and schools, as well as the town he was born in,

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<v Speaker 1>have been named after him. Now we will move on

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<v Speaker 1>to Richard Pierce, who, for our first year or so

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<v Speaker 1>on the show was the person most often mentioned when

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<v Speaker 1>we brought up the Right Brothers. He was a New

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<v Speaker 1>Zealand aviation pioneer born on December three, eight seventy seven.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a mostly self taught inventor and farmer, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was granted his first patent in nineteen o two

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<v Speaker 1>for a new style of bicycle that used pedals that

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<v Speaker 1>you pushed up and down rather than in a circle.

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<v Speaker 1>He invented a lot of other devices to including a

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<v Speaker 1>potato planter and a needle threader. Thinking about what it

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<v Speaker 1>would be like to ride a bike where you had

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<v Speaker 1>to push the pedals up and down. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a StairMaster bike. That seems sort of mean, but

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<v Speaker 1>probably not. He was also working on ideas for powered flight.

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<v Speaker 1>His first airplane design was a low profile monoplane made

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<v Speaker 1>of bamboo wire, canvas and steel tubing. On his first

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<v Speaker 1>attempt to fly it, he took off from the road

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<v Speaker 1>adjacent to his farm on the South Island. He flew

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<v Speaker 1>fifty yards or so and then he crashed into a

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<v Speaker 1>gorse fence. So there were some witnesses to this flight.

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<v Speaker 1>It definitely happened, but the details aren't recorded in any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of official account, so there has been a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot of debate about exactly when this flight happened. Pierce

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<v Speaker 1>was a bit of a loner. He never married, there

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<v Speaker 1>weren't really people that he talked to day to day

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<v Speaker 1>about his work, and he also didn't keep a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of written records or notes. Then most cases, when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to things that he worked on. Patent applications are

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<v Speaker 1>the only maaning documentation of what he was doing, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is also why we have way less to share

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<v Speaker 1>about his process than most of the other aviators were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about today. Much later, in nineteen fifteen and nineteen eighteen,

0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:16.399
<v Speaker 1>he wrote two different letters in which he remembered the

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<v Speaker 1>flying having happened in February or March of nineteen o four.

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<v Speaker 1>Researchers reconstructed various bits of eyewitness testimony to arrive at

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<v Speaker 1>a date of March thirty one, nineteen o three, although

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<v Speaker 1>some have also argued that it was actually in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>o two. And this is why for the first year

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<v Speaker 1>or so after we joined the show, he was the

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<v Speaker 1>person so often cited as a counter argument to the

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<v Speaker 1>Right brothers. However, in fourteen, while doing while doing research

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<v Speaker 1>for a book on Pierce aviation, historian Errol Martin found

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<v Speaker 1>an old article published in the Timoroo Post on November

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<v Speaker 1>seventeenth of nineteen o nine, and in this article, Pierce

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<v Speaker 1>himself contractor x the idea that he was flying anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>close to the time that the Wright brothers did. As

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<v Speaker 1>he said to the reporter quote, I did not attempt

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<v Speaker 1>anything practical with the idea until in nineteen o four

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<v Speaker 1>the St. Louis Exposition authorities offered a prize of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars to the men to the man who invented

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<v Speaker 1>and flew a flying machine over a specified course. I

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<v Speaker 1>did not, as you know, succeed in winning the prize.

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<v Speaker 1>Neither did anybody. He went on to describe some tests

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<v Speaker 1>of the machine that he was currently working on, a

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<v Speaker 1>comparatively lightweight craft powered by a twenty five horsepower engine

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<v Speaker 1>that he had designed himself, along with the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the planes components. Even the tests that he described to

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<v Speaker 1>this reporter were more like hops than true sustained flight,

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<v Speaker 1>and Errol Martin suspected that the reason that the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>o two or nineteen o three date persisted for as

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<v Speaker 1>long as it did was because people were looking for

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<v Speaker 1>substantiation that that flight occurred somewhere around that time, not

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<v Speaker 1>six or seven years later. Pierce himself also said that

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't fly before the Right brothers, and that he

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<v Speaker 1>became motivated to work on his own aircraft after their successes.

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<v Speaker 1>So the counter argument that we've heard most often in

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<v Speaker 1>response to Richard Pierce saying that he had not beaten

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<v Speaker 1>the right brothers was that he was just being nice.

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<v Speaker 1>He may have been lovely, he may have just been

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<v Speaker 1>being nice. But like, that's not a very substantive counter argument, right, uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And Pierce died in christ Church on July. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>the other men we've talked about today wound up influencing

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<v Speaker 1>the greater field of aviation in some way, regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>whether their attempts at controlled powered flight were really all

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<v Speaker 1>that successful. And this was less true for Richard Pierce,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was only because being in New Zealand put

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<v Speaker 1>him really far away from where most of that work

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<v Speaker 1>was happening. His plane, though, was pretty sophisticated for the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It had wing flaps, a rear elevator and a wheeled

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:13.159
<v Speaker 1>steerable undercarriage and a propeller with variable pitch blades. Because

0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 1>he was so physically removed for most of the other

0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:18.800
<v Speaker 1>people physically doing this work, though not a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people who were trying to come up with workable aircraft

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<v Speaker 1>actually saw it or got to learn from it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes you wonder if he were closer to those people,

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<v Speaker 1>if his innovations wouldn't have accelerated the development of flight

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<v Speaker 1>in a very serious way, and for a time after

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:38.439
<v Speaker 1>his death, Pierce's work was nearly forgotten. Fortunately, knowledge of

0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:42.199
<v Speaker 1>his efforts did survive. An auctioneer offered his last plane

0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:46.040
<v Speaker 1>to the Canterbury Aero Club, and aviation engineer George Bolt

0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 1>later bought it and donated it to the Museum of

0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Transport and Technology in Auckland, where a replica is now

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<v Speaker 1>part of their collection. Although it seems unlikely that Pierce

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<v Speaker 1>achieved true sustained flight in his aircraft, modern replicas word

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<v Speaker 1>with ultralight aircraft engines has been capable of flight. So

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 1>we're going to take one more quick sponsor break before

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about our last first flight, which was by

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<v Speaker 1>Gustav Whitehead. So in a weird little irony, Gustav Whitehead

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<v Speaker 1>is not the name who is most often tossed out

0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:30.280
<v Speaker 1>when we mentioned the right brothers, but he is the

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<v Speaker 1>aviation pioneer who has gotten a lot of the most

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<v Speaker 1>first in flight attention in recent years, particularly in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. He was born on January one, eighteen seventy four,

0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and immigrated to the United States from Bavaria. He settled

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<v Speaker 1>in Connecticut and changed his surname to Whitehead. From Viskoff.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea that Whitehead might have flown first has come

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<v Speaker 1>up periodically since the nineteen teens, and the most recent

0:24:56.840 --> 0:25:01.320
<v Speaker 1>big wave of attention came inten and that's when editor

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:04.240
<v Speaker 1>Paul Jackson endorsed the idea that the credit should go

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 1>to Whitehead in the centennial edition of Jane's All the

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:12.960
<v Speaker 1>World's Aircraft. Australian John Brown launched the website Gustav dash

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<v Speaker 1>whitehead dot com that same year, laying out various pieces

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:19.639
<v Speaker 1>of evidence that Whitehead was the first to fly, including

0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>what's purportedly a piece of photographic evidence. So here are

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<v Speaker 1>the claims. On August eighth, n O one, the Bridgeports

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday Harold reported that Whitehead had made a half mile

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<v Speaker 1>flight four days before on August fourteen, aboard a very

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<v Speaker 1>bird like monoplane known as Number twenty one, and as

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<v Speaker 1>still happens today, other publications picked up this story and

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<v Speaker 1>mirrored it in their own pages without doing any additional

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 1>reporting of their own on it. This report listed to

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:54.440
<v Speaker 1>ben as having helped Whitehead in this effort, and those

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:58.639
<v Speaker 1>were James Dickey and Andrew Seeley. In an article in

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<v Speaker 1>American Inventor published April first nineteen o two, Whitehead himself

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<v Speaker 1>also claimed to have flown for several miles over Long

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Island on January seventeenth of that year. He claimed that

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:13.640
<v Speaker 1>flight and another shorter one took place on the same day.

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<v Speaker 1>From there, Whitehead made a failed bid to enter an

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 1>aircraft in the aeronautical competition at the Louisiana Purchase Exposition

0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 1>in St. Louis in nineteen o four. That was the

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 1>same one that Richard Pierce referenced in his nineteen o

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:31.159
<v Speaker 1>nine newspaper interview. Whitehead built several other aircraft between nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>o six and nineteen o nine, none of which, ever,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently flew. When a Scientific American reporter visited him in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen o three, he was actually working on a glider

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<v Speaker 1>and not on a powered aircraft. There were doubts about

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<v Speaker 1>his claims even at the time. A much different article

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<v Speaker 1>appeared in the Bridgeport Evening Farmer in nineteen o two,

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<v Speaker 1>titled Unrealized Dreams Last Flop of the Whitehead Flying Machine.

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<v Speaker 1>It detailed the various grapes of Whitehead's financial backer, Herman Lindy,

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<v Speaker 1>who had invested six thousand dollars in two machines and

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 1>was disappointed in the fact that neither of them could

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 1>actually fly. The Bridgeport Post published a similar critical article

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>on the same day. Whitehead died on October tenth, and

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<v Speaker 1>then in the nineteen thirties, somebody stumbled over that initial

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:25.880
<v Speaker 1>article that had reported that he had a successful flight,

0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>so people started trying to track down confirmation of whether

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<v Speaker 1>he had flown or not. Andrew Seely could not be

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<v Speaker 1>located when he wasn't listed in any local directories. They did, however,

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<v Speaker 1>find James Dickey, who not only said he had not

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<v Speaker 1>witnessed the flight, but also said he was not even there.

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<v Speaker 1>He did not know any Andrew Seeley, and he had

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<v Speaker 1>never even heard of any flight and that or any

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<v Speaker 1>other Whitehead aircraft. When an interviewer tracked him down in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty six, he said, quote, I believe the entire

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<v Speaker 1>story of the Herald was imaginary and grew out of

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<v Speaker 1>the comments white had discussing what he hoped to get

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<v Speaker 1>from his plane. It's also impossible to go back and

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<v Speaker 1>review Whitehead's notes and schematics to try to replicate his

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<v Speaker 1>aircraft and see if it actually worked, because he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>leave any A few photographs do exist of his nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>o one machine, although all of those show it on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground and not in the air. No photograph is

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<v Speaker 1>known to exist in the machine that purportedly flew several

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<v Speaker 1>miles in nineteen o two, and no photographs exist of

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<v Speaker 1>one of his aircraft in flight. There are photos of

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<v Speaker 1>an unpowered glider as well as one that was flown

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<v Speaker 1>without a person aboard. This new in quotation Mark's photo

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<v Speaker 1>evidence that was alluded to is a really heavily enlarged

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<v Speaker 1>detail of an exhibition that was shown at the Aero

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<v Speaker 1>Club of America in January nineteen o six. This vastly

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<v Speaker 1>zoomed in on picture shows a white blob shaped roughly

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<v Speaker 1>like one of Whitehead's airplanes when viewed from above. People

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<v Speaker 1>looking to support Whitehead's claims did interview a number of

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<v Speaker 1>witnesses between nineteen thirty four and nineteen seventy four. However,

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<v Speaker 1>their statements contradict one another or they're demonstrably false, and

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<v Speaker 1>at least one of them was paid to give that story.

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<v Speaker 1>All of those statements were documented at least thirty years

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<v Speaker 1>after the flight purportedly took place, and meanwhile, his family, employers,

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<v Speaker 1>financial backers, and other people who were working in the

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<v Speaker 1>field of aeronautics at the time generally agree that none

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<v Speaker 1>of his planes ever left the ground. Yeah, accurately reconstructing

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<v Speaker 1>exactly when something happened thirty years or more after it happened,

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<v Speaker 1>when there's not anything actually written down about it to

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<v Speaker 1>jog your memory. That's kind of a tall order. So

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<v Speaker 1>in the Smithsonian published a number of lengthy rebuttals of

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<v Speaker 1>all the various Whitehead evidence, and then Scientific American did

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<v Speaker 1>as well, refuting Whitehead supporters use of its own past

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<v Speaker 1>reporting is support for their claims. So people, basically we're

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<v Speaker 1>pointing to old Scientific American articles being like, well, right there,

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<v Speaker 1>it says that he flew, and then Scientific American was like, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what it says. Supporters often claim that the

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<v Speaker 1>only reason that the Smithsonian won't seriously consider the possibility

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<v Speaker 1>of Whitehead beating the Right Brothers Too Powered flight is

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<v Speaker 1>that the contract they signed for the flyer specifies that

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<v Speaker 1>they won't display a challenge to the Right Brothers claim

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<v Speaker 1>to be first. But, as quoted in The Economist, aeronautics

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<v Speaker 1>curator Tom Crouch said, quote, should persuasive evidence for a

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<v Speaker 1>prior flight be presented, My colleagues and I would have

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<v Speaker 1>the courage and honesty to admit the new evidence and

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<v Speaker 1>risk the loss of the right flyer. This whole disagreement

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<v Speaker 1>did basically lead Ohio and North Carolina to put aside

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<v Speaker 1>their differences and basically both say not Connecticut. Though. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that gets pointed to a lot in

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing is like, look at how many other

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<v Speaker 1>articles say this happened. They can't all be wrong, but

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<v Speaker 1>like they're all articles that are spawned from one account. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're all reporting one article, which continues to be an

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<v Speaker 1>issue in media today when one thing will come out

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<v Speaker 1>and a bunch of other people will re report that

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<v Speaker 1>one thing without doing any additional reporting on their own,

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<v Speaker 1>and then like there's now there's a story that's faults

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