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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about a lizard who was found eating

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Speaker 1: a newborn baby, a mom who helped her son plan

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Speaker 1: a school attack, ten inmates that escape through a prison toilet,

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Speaker 1: a veterinarian who was found dead after a viral video

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Speaker 1: was leaked of him kicking a horse, and an accidental

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Speaker 1: injection of a chemical during an epidoral procedure. All that

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Speaker 1: more on today's episode. Let's get started. This is like

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Speaker 1: crazy story episode. Let's get started with this lizard story.

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Speaker 1: I mean, every episode has crazy stories, but this is

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Speaker 1: just like outrageous. First, we have a monitor lizard was

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Speaker 1: that they really know how the newborn baby got there.

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Speaker 1: They think that maybe a mom had it and it

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Speaker 1: was abandoned, and they don't know if it was born

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Speaker 1: like stillborn or if it was born alive. So they're

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Speaker 1: currently testing the pieces of the newborn baby. Yes, pieces,

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Speaker 1: because that's what this monitor lizard was doing to this baby.

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Speaker 1: I guess when we think of lizards in this country,

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Speaker 1: they're not. They're not like that. Well when I think

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Speaker 1: of lizards here, they're they're smaller, right, or like maybe

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Speaker 1: you have like a little iguana thing now, like when

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Speaker 1: size of a cat. This one was six and a

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Speaker 1: half feet long, so pretty big. Yeah, this is a

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Speaker 1: really disturbing story upon somebody, you know, somebody came upon

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Speaker 1: the scene and thought that the lizard was eating a fish,

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Speaker 1: realized what was going on. They don't know where the

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Speaker 1: baby came from, like you were saying, They don't know

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Speaker 1: if it was stillborn or abandoned or what was going on,

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Speaker 1: but certainly a disturbing scene, they're saying. Monitor lizards typically

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Speaker 1: live in canal, swamp, sewers and ponds in Thailand. They

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Speaker 1: mostly feed on fish, snakes, frogs, or scraps of food

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Speaker 1: left by humans. Obviously the lizard doesn't know the difference

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Speaker 1: between those things and the little baby. But they're typically

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Speaker 1: only aggressive when threatened, and they have a mildly venomous

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Speaker 1: bite sometimes that could carry harmful bacteria. So there's people

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Speaker 1: that have the miss pets on Instagram. Well, there's lots

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Speaker 1: of people that have pets I mean, did you not

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Speaker 1: watch Tiger King. Nobody should have pets like that. That

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Speaker 1: guy in the story we talked about last week shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have had a kangaroo in South Carolina. Yeah, but that

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Speaker 1: was a zoo. I don't think that was just like

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Speaker 1: I thought that was like a petting zoo. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: it's like, what is a petting zoo? Isn't it somebody's

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Speaker 1: charge for people to come see that. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: not all the time, I don't think, but whatever really

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Speaker 1: fucked up. Yeah, So they're looking at the pieces of

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Speaker 1: the baby now to determine first if it was like

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Speaker 1: maybe if they could do DNA and see who the

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Speaker 1: this lizard started ripping it to pieces or if not,

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Speaker 1: because if the baby was alive, then they're going to

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Speaker 1: be looking for the mother to press charges against her.

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Speaker 1: Clearly they should do that, because that's I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: already messed up to if you want to have a

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Speaker 1: stillborn that's fine, but like to leave a live baby

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Speaker 1: laying in the middle of wherever that that happened, that

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Speaker 1: you should go to jail for that for the rest

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Speaker 1: she should definitely go to jail. Let's move on to

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Speaker 1: this next story about this thirty three year old mother

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Speaker 1: tactical gear for her thirteen year old sons planned mass

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Speaker 1: casualty attack at his middle school. I can't I can't

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Speaker 1: obviously part of the problem is the parents. You never

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Speaker 1: normal family life. No, I mean this it all starts

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Speaker 1: with the adults, right, Yeah. But the more information about

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Speaker 1: And this was like a reward system for him babysitting

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Speaker 1: his younger siblings? Was her buying him these things? Look

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Speaker 1: you think any of the parents knew that any of

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Speaker 1: this was going on? No, you send your kid to

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Speaker 1: what is the gain? I mean, I had a situation

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Speaker 1: So then the kid goes and I guess he was

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Speaker 1: And I'm called the cops and I guess was he

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Speaker 1: why who's watching these kids? Like that's the thing, and

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Speaker 1: All right, so, I guess there was this vat I

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Speaker 1: don't even know how this video went viral, but there

431
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Speaker 1: was this vetin area that was taking care of a

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Speaker 1: horse and then all of a sudden, on the video,

433
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Speaker 1: he started kicking the horse and the video went viral,

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Speaker 1: and obviously like he was not dealing with the response

435
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Speaker 1: very well. He later went on Facebook and apologized and

436
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Speaker 1: was or was like not really apologizing, but he was

437
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Speaker 1: defending why he was doing that, which everybody's just like, yeah, dude,

438
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: like no, we saw the video. I don't, but there's

439
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Speaker 1: no person in the world that's just kicking a horse

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Speaker 1: for any kind of reason. And then, you know, just

441
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Speaker 1: because of the pushback he was getting, he disappeared one day. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so he ended up disappearing shortly after issuing the Facebook apology.

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Speaker 1: He was found dead two weeks later. His car had

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Speaker 1: been found abandoned with his wallet, keys, and phone near

445
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Speaker 1: the water's edge of Lake Mead, and then they searched

446
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Speaker 1: it for a while ended up finding his body. It

447
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: turns out he died by suicide after injecting himself with

448
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Speaker 1: the euthanasia drug. Yeah, so he injected himself with pentobarbital,

449
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: which is also something that would be used for a

450
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Speaker 1: lethal injection, let's say. But they said that he died

451
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Speaker 1: from drowning, So I don't know if he injected himself

452
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Speaker 1: and then he had went into the water or did

453
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Speaker 1: it at the same time or whatever. But they were

454
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Speaker 1: saying that they had to use dental records to identify

455
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Speaker 1: his body, so he was probably decomposed bloated parsonally skeletonized

456
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Speaker 1: maybe like depending how long he was in there, because

457
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Speaker 1: it could get pretty hot there. So so yeah, that's

458
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Speaker 1: that's I mean, that makes me think that he understands

459
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Speaker 1: that he definitely did that and was guilty. Like I

460
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Speaker 1: don't know, I don't think anybody was misunderstanding what he

461
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 1: was doing and what's going on there that you're kicking

462
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Speaker 1: a horse in the head that it needs treatment from

463
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: your abuse when it's trying to when you're supposed to

464
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Speaker 1: be treating the horse. I mean, this is obviously the

465
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Speaker 1: guy's sick, like he's supposed to be helping animals and

466
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Speaker 1: he's hurting them. But you hear this from time to

467
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: time of doctors hurting patients and you know, going into

468
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: a specific thing like you want to take care of

469
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: kids and help kids, and then you hurt the kids

470
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: like it happens. And sometimes when there's people that do

471
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: stuff like this, these kinds of fields are like easy

472
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: for them to have access to do things like this. Whatever. Uh,

473
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Speaker 1: it just it's sad for people that have animals that

474
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Speaker 1: were his patients and thinking about your animal getting beat

475
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: like that is upsetting, you know. All Right, So our

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Speaker 1: last story of today comes out of Morocco, and it

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Speaker 1: is an insane story of a thirty two year old

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Speaker 1: woman who went into a hospital in full term labor

479
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Speaker 1: and was scheduled for an epidural in preparation to have

480
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Speaker 1: vaginal delivery. And somehow when they were put they put

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Speaker 1: the epidural catheter into this woman's back. Instead of putting

482
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: saline in, which is what they were intending to put in,

483
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: they grabbed a chemical called chlorohexidine, which is an aniseptic,

484
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Speaker 1: and injected that into her epidoral space of her back.

485
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Speaker 1: I mean, how does this even happen? So that wouldn't happen,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say wouldn't. The chance of that

487
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Speaker 1: happening in America at least is less likely because number one,

488
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Speaker 1: they've said they don't even want to use chlorohexidine on

489
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Speaker 1: people that are getting the needle in the back because

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Speaker 1: they don't know what that chemp, just the needle passing

491
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Speaker 1: through that chemical. They don't know what that chemical could

492
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Speaker 1: do to the spinal cord into the brain. Right now,

493
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: that's something you would use to clean the skin before

494
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Speaker 1: you would do some kind of a procedure. The reason

495
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Speaker 1: they don't know what this chemical does to the brain

496
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Speaker 1: is because there's never cases of people injecting it into

497
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Speaker 1: somebody like this by accident. So maybe this could be

498
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Speaker 1: as part of the case study of what happens. But

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00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 1: this was three millileaters injected, which is a lot. Okay,

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00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 1: so in comparison to like a needle passing through a

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00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: drop of it. You know, So in America at least,

502
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: that chemical chlorohaxtegn shouldn't even be anywhere near this setup.

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Speaker 1: And in America all of this stuff is supposed to

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Speaker 1: be labeled and so things like this don't happen. I

505
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: don't know if you remember we talked about a story

506
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: months ago about a woman who was getting one of

507
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Speaker 1: those those testing done for fatill Yeah, I remember, trust me,

508
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: because that was like horrific thinking about that happiding. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And instead they injected this acetic acid chemical that's used

510
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Speaker 1: to do cervical biopsies or I forget exactly what it was,

511
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: but it's a similar thing of like grabbing the wrong

512
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Speaker 1: thing by accident. And of course this has happened over

513
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: time the history of medicine, which is why they just

514
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: come up with new things all the time to just

515
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Speaker 1: make that not happen with color coded things and this

516
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Speaker 1: and that. So in this particular hospital in Morocco, they

517
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Speaker 1: said that they had this alien in a container labeled,

518
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: and then they had the chlorohexidine and a container labeled.

519
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: But then they poured them into cups like dixie cup

520
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 1: type things or sterile little disposable cups. And that's when

521
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: the doctor got confused because both of the liquids were

522
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: clear and used the wrong one. That this is what

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Speaker 1: it says. It literally says this in the article. I mean,

524
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Speaker 1: this is ridiculous, and this is this is a medical

525
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: This isn't like a newspaper article. This is a case

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00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: report study, so it is it is ridiculous. But it's

527
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: also good to hear this because then you're like, when

528
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: people are complaining about how bad medicine is here and stuff,

529
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: you're just like, not, it's kind of bad in other

530
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: places too, So just like relax, all right. So the

531
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Speaker 1: patient gets this inject into her back and rapidly develops

532
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: progressive paraplegia so she can't move her arms and was

533
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: transferred to the ICU. Exhibited severe muscle reduction in muscle

534
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: strength and parises. Is just getting like the pins and

535
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: easels feeling, and then was getting severe persistent headaches. It

536
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,239
Speaker 1: developed acute respiratory distress, which led her to having an

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00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: emergency intubation just so she could breathe. Her imaging showed

538
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: that she was developing fluid on her brain called hydrocephalus,

539
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: and luckily they treated her with steroids and everything like that,

540
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: and within seventy two hours she started to return to normal. Now,

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Speaker 1: the other really interesting part of this case report is

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Speaker 1: that if you remember at the beginning of the story,

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Speaker 1: the whole reason that this happened is because this woman

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Speaker 1: was in labor and getting an epidoral. So they mentioned

545
00:29:54,440 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: nothing in the article about like what happened with the childbirth. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I have no idea because they said that she

547
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: was back to normal and fine in seventy two hours,

548
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: while if she went in in labor, then what happened

549
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: during all that Because it's because you would normally get

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Speaker 1: the epidural before you give birth, So if she got

551
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Speaker 1: the wrong thing injected and immediately started having all of

552
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: these problems, I don't understand where the childbirth fit in

553
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: and they say nothing about it. I read it three times,

554
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: like I just can't find any information about it. I

555
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,479
Speaker 1: don't understand. So that leaves a whole like that's what

556
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: I want to know, Like, well, was the baby fine?

557
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: Did the baby survive? I have real idea. Would it

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00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: even be safe to have a sea section in a

559
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: case like that or push naturally if they have to

560
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: attend to the mother. I think that's a really important detail.

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00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: They know that. I don't know that they would she

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00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: would have been able to give childbirth if she was

563
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: having if she was paralyzed from the waiste up at

564
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: temporarily at least and had no muscle strength. Oh my god.

565
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: But I just like, I literally don't even know what happened.

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00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: It's so weird. So I just wanted to tell you

567
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: guys this because it's it's just a crazy case. And

568
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: and you hear about this from time to time. It's

569
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: usually in other countries that something like that happens, but

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00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 1: I mean it, I'm sure it happens here too, that

571
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: they give You've heard about this before, that like they

572
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: give the wrong dosage of medications. It was happening with

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00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: I forget what it was. It might have been insulin

574
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: or something years ago that the labels for the infant

575
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: in children's insulin was similar to the adult ones, and

576
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: they were giving too much to the babies or something

577
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: like that, Like it was something because it was one

578
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: was like point oh five and one was point oh five,

579
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: or it was just like very confusing and they were

580
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: the same color or something. So they're always trying to

581
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: do things to prevent this from happening, because like when

582
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: you're when you work in medicine, things could get crazy

583
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,959
Speaker 1: sometimes and and mistakes happen because humans are involved. So

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00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: you just want to make sure that there's no way

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00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: for those mix ups to happen. And you can't even

586
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: say that with like you you worked at a restaurant,

587
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: like remember that time I got that I'll never forget

588
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: that at that really good restaurant with a good reputation

589
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia that like put dish so soap instead of

590
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: honey on top of my ice cream. Well, this is

591
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: what slip slip ups happen. This soap is supposed to

592
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: be like a fluorescent color, so there is no room

593
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: to mix them up. Because what happened is you got

594
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: like a palm all of equivalent of soap on your

595
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: dessert when you when they thought it was honey, But

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00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: like I'm saying, that's totally unacceptable because at the bar,

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00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: all of our soap was hot pink, like it could

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00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: not be mixed up with anything. It's the color of pepto,

599
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: Like you can't you can't confuse it with anything. Yeah,

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00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: so I and they and there's the same exact thing

601
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: happens in a lab that there's certain places we don't

602
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: store things together. Everything's supposed to be labeled and dated

603
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: when it was opened and things like that. And I mean,

604
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,239
Speaker 1: like when you have humans involved with anything, something like

605
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: this is gonna happen. But the whole entire time, I

606
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,959
Speaker 1: was just like, oh my god, like this this is

607
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: like medical malpractice on the hugest level, the hugest lawsuit ever.

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00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: And like I don't know if that kind of stuff

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Speaker 1: goes down in Morocco like that, but this, if any

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Speaker 1: case exists, it's this one. Oh totally. Well, Thank you

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