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Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome back to another week of dirty Rush.

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Speaker 1: We already went through the rush process with you guys,

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Speaker 1: but now we're going to get into what life is

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Speaker 1: like after the rush process. We're going to dive into

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be a pledge in a sorority.

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Speaker 1: And here we have Ava with us. She is going

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Speaker 1: to tell us her pledge story.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 3: So I went to a small school in Connecticut, a

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Speaker 3: small private school, and our rush was very similar to

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Speaker 3: everything you guys spoke about before. You know, you saw

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Speaker 3: the different sororities. The rush for us was the easy part.

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Speaker 3: We basically like went into different rooms, you met the girls,

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Speaker 3: you know, you got to know them, you had conversations,

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Speaker 3: and then you got a bid. So the sorority that

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Speaker 3: I got a bid for was a was a Jewish sorority,

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Speaker 3: And the easy part was the rushing, and once you

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Speaker 3: got a bid, it was crazy. So some of the things,

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Speaker 3: like instantly there were I think there were like eight

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Speaker 3: or nine of us.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so, very your pledge class was very.

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Speaker 3: Small, really really small.

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Speaker 1: Do you mind, like you don't have to, of course,

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Speaker 1: but do you mind disclosing maybe what sorority you were

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Speaker 1: in or yeah, sure, I was in eight by oh okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean very very well known sorority.

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Speaker 3: Though very well known sorority, a really great sorority, you know.

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Speaker 3: But I think our school did things a little bit differently,

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Speaker 3: maybe because it was smaller. This was also back in

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Speaker 3: two thous like early two.

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Speaker 1: Thousands, okay, got it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So we kind of pledge like a fraternity. We

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Speaker 3: were hazed from day one. So the second you got

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Speaker 3: your bid and you accepted, you had to get apack

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Speaker 3: and in your backpack you had to carry a brick

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Speaker 3: the entire time, which was sounds like, oh, that's kind

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Speaker 3: of strange, but that was nothing. You had to carry

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Speaker 3: a brick. You had to carry like a ziplock with

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Speaker 3: anything that one of the sisters could want you had

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Speaker 3: to have in that ziplock at all times, so that

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Speaker 3: could be like cigarettes, hair fings, chapstick whatever.

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Speaker 1: You were like their assistant.

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Speaker 3: We we were definitely like their assistant.

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Speaker 1: I want to say you were like there, but I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that's a lot.

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Speaker 3: We were fully there, Like we had to at the

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Speaker 3: or a text from them, we had to leave whatever

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Speaker 3: we were doing to either. There were so many things like.

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Speaker 1: If they yeah, that is kind of crazy because that

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Speaker 1: does give fraternity it's their eternity. Yeah, because even my

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Speaker 1: freshman year of college, it was me and my roommate

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Speaker 1: would receive phone calls at like four am, one am

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Speaker 1: And that gives very frat like rather than sorority life

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Speaker 1: because that didn't happen to me and we rushed at

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Speaker 1: the same time.

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Speaker 3: And like, once you hear everything that I'm going to say,

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Speaker 3: the fraternities had its ten times worse. So like we

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Speaker 3: had it bad, but the fraternities had it way worse.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so okay. So some of the things we had

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Speaker 3: We had to so our campus like the some of

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Speaker 3: the dorms were like apartments, so they would say I

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Speaker 3: want cheetos right now, and you would have to steal

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Speaker 3: from other people's dorm rooms. Like you'd have to go

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Speaker 1: Crazy and like oh my god. So it's not like

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Speaker 1: you enter the store.

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Speaker 3: That your room could have been the store. It was

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Speaker 3: like I want chocolate chip cookies, go find them, like

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Speaker 3: drive around, clean their apartments, do their homework and papers. Wow,

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Speaker 3: And again that was the easy stuff.

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Speaker 1: How long was your pledging process?

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Speaker 3: It was around six weeks, so it was a while.

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Speaker 3: And during that time you had to be there. You

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Speaker 3: worse as it went on. We went into Hell Week,

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Speaker 3: which was like the last week of pledging. Even before

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Speaker 3: at Hell Week, actually, one of the things that we

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Speaker 3: had to do was like they would say sizzle like bacons.

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Speaker 3: Like it's just like.

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Speaker 1: Embarrassing, you know, and yeah, I mean, what are you

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Speaker 3: Yes, And like they would have fraternities come in and

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Speaker 3: they would tell you to sizzle like bacon.

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Speaker 1: And it was just like demeaning, you know, yeah, of course,

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Speaker 1: I mean especially when the Frock guys come in. It's

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Speaker 3: That's embarrassing, and like they would you had to they

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Speaker 3: the Greek alphabet. You had to know the Greek alphabet,

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Speaker 3: burned them, then like all hell broke loose. You were

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Speaker 3: yelled at. There were punishments, like physical punishments like push ups,

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Speaker 3: jumping jacks. You would have to sit against the wall

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Speaker 3: like real, were.

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Speaker 1: You in boot camp?

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Speaker 3: Like what I know exactly, it was like we were

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Speaker 3: in boot camp. So then as we so are, we

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Speaker 3: the dorms had our room, any thigh rooms, that's like

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Speaker 3: our house.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, so like it so that the school could so

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Speaker 1: like Panhell could like monitor it in a way.

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Speaker 3: Not at all because there was no monitoring, okay, just

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Speaker 3: because we were such a small school and there were

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Speaker 3: no houses, so they just gave each of us a room.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting because I know a lot of like other

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Speaker 1: like because I don't I don't know what's if you

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Speaker 1: don't mind, I mean, I if you don't mind sharing,

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Speaker 1: it totally up to you. But I know the other

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Speaker 1: smaller schools in Connecticut, like Fairfield or Sacred Heart. Actually

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Speaker 1: I don't even think Fairfield had Greek life, if I'm

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Speaker 1: not wrong, But Sacred Heart they had like rocks, rocks

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Speaker 1: like represented their sorority, but I don't think they had

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had like a dingy, old dusty basement room.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: It's like old car.

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Speaker 1: You had like chapter and stuff in there.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, we had Chapter in there. But so what happened

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Speaker 3: was during hell week, they took away all of our

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Speaker 3: go to our dorm rooms, and so we would have

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Speaker 3: to sleep in the chapter room in the base a

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Speaker 3: week for a week. But they told us you're not

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Speaker 3: can't go in the back room. So for a week.

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Speaker 3: We and you weren't allowed to sit on the couches

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Speaker 3: And so that was the one time in my life

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Speaker 3: where we survived on adderall. We all took adderall.

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Speaker 1: I could only imagine.

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Speaker 3: So remember, if you don't have a dorm room, you

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Speaker 3: don't have a shower, so you were not allowed to shower.

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Speaker 3: And what they would do is they would come in

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Speaker 1: Well and I've heard about this within like fraternities, but

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Speaker 1: I've never heard this with sororities before ever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we would have to walk around, like I

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Speaker 3: same one time, just to like try the smell, like

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Speaker 3: I can still smell it. Imagine like mayo mustard ca

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Speaker 1: No, that's mortifying. And then going to class. I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: A class like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and not sleeping that on top of not sleeping, of.

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Speaker 1: Course, how are you even focusing everyone's looking at you

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Speaker 1: throughout campus? Probably thinking you smell. But like because your

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Speaker 1: campus was a smaller school, did they knew that, Like

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Speaker 1: they knew that this was happening to you.

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Speaker 3: I knew, like this is what happens when you go

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I would have I would have given

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Speaker 1: you a medal of honor. This is like reminding me

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Speaker 1: of Special Forces.

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Speaker 3: Which I love. By the way, I'm watching it, Oh

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Speaker 3: so thank you. But yeah, I mean it there were

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Speaker 3: many times where like we the six of us, would

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Speaker 1: What were you allowed to draw?

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Speaker 3: I mean yeah, if you'd remember it was such a

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Speaker 3: Like there was no coming back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone would have known.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and like those five girls like they were my

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Speaker 1: I mean after going through that, you're like trauma bonded.

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Speaker 3: No, for sure, Like I mean the things like if

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Speaker 3: we wanted to drink water, we have to like miaw

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yeah, but did things turn around after this?

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Speaker 1: Like so after they basically just treated you, like horribly

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Speaker 3: But you had to feel like you went through it

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Speaker 3: there because they all went through it, so they so

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Speaker 3: if you didn't go through it, you didn't deserve to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the worst I've ever heard was sitting

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Speaker 1: on a washer or dryer naked. But who knows if

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Speaker 1: that's even true. I mean maybe because the things that

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Speaker 1: you're telling me right now, I actually can't even fathom

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Speaker 1: that this happened to you.

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Speaker 3: They took one of my clutchesters one night and we

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Speaker 3: had to go on a scavenger hunt to find her,

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Speaker 3: and she was wasted, crying, like they got her beyond wasted.

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Speaker 1: That's so scary because that happened at the school that

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Speaker 1: I went to, and the pledge ended up dead. So

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Speaker 1: you know, it's like that stuff gets very crazy because

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Speaker 1: that's when you know sororities and fraternities I think, get

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Speaker 1: a little out of hand and like never know when

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Speaker 1: enough is enough. And then at the end and then

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Speaker 1: ultimately take it too far. Maybe they don't mean to,

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Speaker 1: but like then it's like they look at it as

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Speaker 3: Well, that's what it was. For the sisters. It was

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Speaker 1: Well, Eva, I'm so sorry that happened to you. That's

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Speaker 3: Listen to your stories on here and I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 1: Like you're like, that's light work. This is nothing compared

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, and we didn't experience any of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the night that we got in it

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Speaker 1: So I give you a lot of credit.

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Speaker 3: That's use dishwashers so on your hair, like that's what

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Speaker 3: Like growths and not something I would ever sign up

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well, Ava, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, and I'm happy listening to everyone's

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Speaker 3: great job.

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Speaker 1: I think you're taking it home. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: If you are Team Jeremiah, you probably need some help

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Speaker 4: in the love department. Listen to I Do Part two

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Speaker 4: to help correct your choices in men. Listen to I

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Speaker 4: Do Part two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or

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Speaker 1: Hi Paige, and welcome to Dirty Rush. I am so

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to tell you about them white fun. Oh

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Speaker 2: them's there's a multitude. Yeah. Okay, I was a new

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm a sophomore. Awesome and my big So if

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Speaker 1: Oh I know. And then you're going on like speed

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Speaker 2: Exactly the best idealized version of yourself. But anyways, a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, and especially if she knew everyone, she

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Speaker 2: My first one was reading a limerick to the Fiji

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Speaker 2: It was hilarious. It was like nine pm. She's like,

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Speaker 2: along those lines, there's also performing a happy Birthday ballad

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. But wait, so she made you like

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, this was a whole Greek event. It was.

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Speaker 2: Fair? That's a fair I guess. I never really looked

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Speaker 2: And I think it's just like the same way they

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Speaker 1: So did the rest of your pledge class get treated

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Speaker 2: This is just like.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like this it's a little weird.

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Speaker 1: Not to Okay, I mean listen, if you enjoyed it

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Speaker 2: It it was for me, so I feel like.

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Speaker 1: You're a confident person.

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Speaker 2: I just was kind of like, oh, I live on

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Speaker 1: I'm not that deep good mentality.

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Speaker 2: I'm like pretty close with the girl that I performed

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, asking for but itch ointment and just following

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Speaker 2: There was some snapchats like swipe up for a tvh

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00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 2: like like just embarrassing stuff to put on like your sociiyeah.

443
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 2: One of one of the highlights was I petitioned for

444
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 2: animal rights in front of this like fountain on campus.

445
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, that was actually pretty fun because I dressed

446
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 2: as a I dressed in a gorilla suits and no

447
00:22:54,640 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 2: one would recognize me. And also, okay, yeah, channel lot

448
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: of free time, let me tell you to come up

449
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 2: with these things.

450
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, she was definitely brainstorming a lot. But

451
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Padre, I give you a lot of credit.

452
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: I mean, your confidence is through the roof because anyone else,

453
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I feel like any other

454
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: girl would not be okay with this. It would be

455
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: absolutely mortified to do any of these things. So I

456
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: mean kudos to you because it takes I think a

457
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: girl with high confidence and a girl with a high

458
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: I don't give a attitude or what people say or

459
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: think about me to do any of these things.

460
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I don't know if I if I

461
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 2: should say, like what school I'm at, but I'm at Berkeley.

462
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 2: There's a lot of there's weirder shit going on out there,

463
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 2: petitions or rights, like I would say, like maybe like

464
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 2: six people like did a double take, like not it

465
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 2: was kind of like a normal day. It was a

466
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 2: normal day in Berkeley.

467
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 1: They're like, Okay, there's somebody else chanting about something that

468
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: they believe in today. Okay.

469
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 2: Really helped with the embarrassment factor, and like there it

470
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: could be it would be a lot weirder somewhere else.

471
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: That's so funny.

472
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: Wrote more book reports for these pledge tasks or like

473
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 2: pledged tasks. Then I have my entire career pat school

474
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 2: so far about children's books that she left me in

475
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: my like room decor situation. And then I also wrote

476
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 2: a book report about it was like a self help

477
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: book about klepto being a kleptomaniac. Kleptomaniac, that's a whole

478
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 2: nother can of worms. My roommates and I were like

479
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 2: running around frats stealing things, which was probably not great either.

480
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and this is all this is all

481
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: set up from your sorority.

482
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 2: No that the stealing was on her own CORNERO.

483
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: Oh, like you just wrote a book report about being

484
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: a kleptomaniac.

485
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 2: A self help book. She knew. I was like, I

486
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 2: didn't know she was, and she was like, yeah, my

487
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: little is like cle I'm gonna give her this book.

488
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: Oh no, I really hope the ceiling phase is over. Yeah, yeah, okay.

489
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: Cool incident and then we retired.

490
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: We were like, yeah, you got like you got like

491
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: a nice high from it. It made you like it

492
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: was exciting.

493
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was like dead Okay, I don't know because

494
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 2: my big was saying, you might want to talk about

495
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: this separately. But there was like a whole composite like

496
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 2: hostage situation, Like we had this composite from a frat,

497
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: like held hostage from the frat for months, and our

498
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 2: next door neighbor was a pledge in the frat and

499
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 2: like six months after we stole it. He broke into

500
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 2: our room to take it back, and there's there was like.

501
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 5: It was one night, and then the composite went back

502
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 5: to the frat, and then we went back into the

503
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 5: frat and stole it, and they like chased us down

504
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 5: the street and then so we sent one of our

505
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 5: other neighbors in to like distract them, and then skill

506
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 5: the fence and got the composite back.

507
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: It was Yeah, God, the.

508
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 2: Kleptomaniac book was probably important for us to read.

509
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I could see that. Well. I mean, aside

510
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: from all of that, I'm happy, I'm happy you have

511
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,959
Speaker 1: self reflected on being a kleptomaniac. I'm also happy that

512
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: your big gave you what was it, a self.

513
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 2: It was a self help book.

514
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, why did you need self help for being

515
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: a kleptomaniac? Yeah, got it. Okay, So the cleptomaniac thing

516
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: that is solved. But other than that, like the fact

517
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: that you embraced doing all of these tasks for yourself

518
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: is saying a wild, wild amount about your character. You're

519
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: very confident, You're clearly very funny and just kind of

520
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: live in the moment. So I mean embrace it, because

521
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: I don't like a lot of girls in your situation

522
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: would have taken it as well as you did.

523
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: So are you saying you wouldn't petition for animal rides?

524
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: Maybe not? No, wait that's bad because I love animals.

525
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: But I just I would definitely be embarrassed on campus

526
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: while doing it.

527
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: Fair fair, fair, fair.

528
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

529
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: It was yeah, definitely a learning experience, but it was fun.

530
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: So when your big was actually revealed to oh wait,

531
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: you didn't know who your big was the entire time

532
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: that she was making you do this, Oh my god.

533
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: So the but then, so this was during like your

534
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: speed dating process, because then how did she like lock

535
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: you in? You know what I mean?

536
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: You speed date and then you like the little will

537
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: rank who they want, and the big will also rank

538
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: who they want. And then if it's like it's like

539
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 2: some weird system, if it's like a perfect one to

540
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 2: one match, you end up with like.

541
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, of course I know that whole system. But

542
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: then how did she get you to do these things

543
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: before knowing who she was?

544
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 2: She knew that I was her little, I wasn't sure

545
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: who was my big, Like I had a feeling it

546
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 2: was this person. And after the task started growing, and

547
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: I knew it was her because like, this is so

548
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: on brand for her.

549
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: So you didn't have big Little reveal.

550
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: This was just the lead up to big little reveal.

551
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: Wait, I really am not understanding how she pulled this off. Then,

552
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: so was everybody else's potential big doing this to their

553
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: potential little?

554
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: No, she was texting through an anonymous.

555
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: Phone number saying like I'm gonna be your big do

556
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: this stuff. Yeah, oh my god, Okay, that's funny. And

557
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: so then how did you feel when your big was

558
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: revealed to you?

559
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: A sense of like, oh yeah, it was right?

560
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: Was it like a sense of relief or like I'm

561
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: happy about this?

562
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: Like I was never mad about it in the first place.

563
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: I thought it was hilarious, but it was like, yeah,

564
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: this makes so much sense. Like I had a feeling

565
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: it was who my big was, and then when it

566
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 2: was revealed, I'm like, yeah, like of course it was you,

567
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: Like only you would do this like clown stuff.

568
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: Fun Our reveal was at the end, but we like

569
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: this is why I was like confused because we speed

570
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: dated like basically all the way up until like the reveal,

571
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: and then like before the reveal, you like kind of

572
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: knew who your big was because if you were like

573
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: vibing with her, like you know, and kind of like

574
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: solidifying it between like the two of you, even though

575
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: you weren't supposed to do that, but like you kind

576
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: of were like, Okay, you're my big, Okay you're my little.

577
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: But it wasn't ever like a secret or like nobody

578
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: could have like played a game on you before the reveal.

579
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you have the speed dating closes like

580
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: probably a week before big Little, and then you have

581
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: that week to like do baskets and do decorading and

582
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: leave flowers.

583
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, of course I was, but that same

584
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: thing with us, But if you vibed with like your

585
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: potential big, like you kind of like had a feeling like, Okay,

586
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: this girl's gonna be my big or this girl is

587
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: gonna be my little and hope that like you obviously

588
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: both choose each other as you're one, two and three

589
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: option obviously, but how your big was able to prank

590
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: you and like tell you to do all these things

591
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: before the reveal of the week leading up to it,

592
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: like we never had that. Yeah, and I don't even know,

593
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: like I feel like if that was happening to me.

594
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm being pranked. Like I'm gonna go

595
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: ask someone in my sorority if this is fucking normal,

596
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: because it doesn't seem normal.

597
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 6: Yeah.

598
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: There's a lot of like secret societies and like secret

599
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: like club stuff too throughout Berkeley Greek life because it

600
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: is such like an old school and it's very it

601
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: was very traditional in the beginning, so it was kind

602
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: of a sense of like not necessarily that everyone was

603
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: doing the same stuff that I was doing, but like, oh,

604
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: this is definitely a sorority thing, and it's definitely real.

605
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: It's not like some random person texting me. But yeah,

606
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: I also just knew that you would do something like that.

607
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 2: She's a clown.

608
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: Well that's hilarious. But Page, thank you so much for

609
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: coming on to Dirty Rush and explaining your story. You're

610
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: definitely a trooper. Let me tell you that. Hi Kensi,

611
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: and welcome to Dirty Rush. I can't wait to hear

612
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: your blood story.

613
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 7: Thank you so much to be here.

614
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: Let's hear it.

615
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 8: Okay, So I feel like this one's pretty generic, pretty basic,

616
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 8: but I go to a school in the South and

617
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 8: SEC school, so Rush there is obviously way more intense

618
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 8: than other regular you know, college and basically everyone rushes

619
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 8: when they're eighteen, super new, super fresh. And I get

620
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 8: into a sorority that I heard that was a little

621
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 8: bit on the crazier side, which I didn't mind.

622
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: At all, like kind of the party sorority.

623
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, and so I was excited because you know, I

624
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 8: liked doing that in high school, and I was excited

625
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 8: to continue it in college, but with a little bit

626
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 8: more older.

627
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 7: And more mature things going on around me.

628
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 8: And you know, the night of mid day, like the

629
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 8: Earth the night of midnight, and basically they have us

630
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 8: together and then we get separated into pairs. And so

631
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 8: I was with this random girl I've never even met before,

632
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,239
Speaker 8: and we get assigned to this one girl in the

633
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 8: PC above us.

634
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 7: And basically their job is.

635
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 8: For us to get as drunk as they can get

636
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 8: us and then to let us go into the frats.

637
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 7: And so I was honestly down for and it sounded fun.

638
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 7: We all met up. We met up in this basement

639
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 7: that I had no idea existed on campus.

640
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 8: And there's probably about like one hundred and hundred fifty

641
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 8: girls in there, all chanting and yelling songs and drinking

642
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 8: a lot in a lot of beatboxes, because that's what

643
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 8: was sponsoring us secretly. But yeah, that was my first

644
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 8: time having a beatbox at eighteen. I never really drank that.

645
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 8: I don't think any of the other girls did either.

646
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 7: I don't even remember that night to this day. I

647
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 7: really try to picture and think back.

648
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 8: I'm a senior now and that was about three years ago,

649
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 8: but that was probably one of the first times I

650
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 8: blacked out. And I don't know how I got home,

651
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 8: but I know that they did have to take a

652
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 8: picture of us when we were in our bed.

653
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: Okay, so at least they kind of monitored you. They

654
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: kind of wanted to like see where you were and

655
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: not just really let you out and not put any

656
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: like not keep any tabs on you.

657
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, not keep too many tabs on this.

658
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 8: They basically just released us out into the wild for

659
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 8: us to go introduce ourselves to the frat boys. Because

660
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 8: every single frat through that night, so there's probably about

661
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 8: twelve ten frats here, so we had to go to

662
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 8: all of them.

663
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 7: So it was crazy. That was the tap, That was

664
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 7: the whole pot, that was the whole point of it.

665
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: Yes, each one, Yes, I'm sure half of your half

666
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: your punchcast didn't even make it to half of them.

667
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, I only went to three and then I ended

668
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:35,479
Speaker 7: up in bed.

669
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 8: It was it was a surreal experience and it's funny

670
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 8: to think about to try to picture what happened, but

671
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 8: I really can't.

672
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: So I feel like that kind of reminds me of

673
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: my big, little, big little night. Like your bigs are

674
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: getting you super drunk as the little and then you

675
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: go to the frats, but your big is looking out

676
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: for you the whole time, like making sure that you're

677
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: getting into bed safely, that nothing happens to you. But

678
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: you said you didn't really remember the night, but there

679
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: were You said you went to three frats, So was

680
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: there somebody at least monitoring you to make sure that

681
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: you were okay and like kind of tell you what happened.

682
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 8: So when I initially got in, I had friends that

683
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 8: were going to ut prior, so I let them know

684
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 8: where I was going to be that night. So I

685
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 8: wasn't with the people that I had met in my sorority.

686
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 8: I was with my hometown friends at these frats, and

687
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 8: they were basically kind of the ones monitoring me.

688
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: And then so your hometown friends were looking out for you. Yeah, yeah,

689
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: that makes a lot more sense.

690
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 8: Yeah, but I somehow got in contact with the person

691
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 8: I was assigned to because that was their job, and

692
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 8: like if they couldn't get you know, the new PC

693
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 8: to their designated you know, places that they lived at,

694
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 8: they would get in trouble. But yeah, we somehow found

695
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 8: the girl that was supposed to be watching me and

696
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 8: it ended up being fine.

697
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: Wow, well I'm out of here, okay. Honestly, blessed to

698
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: your hometown friends. Hometown friends are always the real ones

699
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 1: that like make sure that you're really okay. I blessed

700
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: to them, and I'm happy that you got home safe. Yes,

701
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: but I feel like that's like weird that they would

702
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: have Like, but they probably did that, honestly, so that

703
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: you guys could have embarrassed yourselves in front of the frats,

704
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: like being so drunk like that for the first time.

705
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: But I'm surprised there wasn't a little more monitoring, just

706
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: like because if like if they if something God forbid

707
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: actually happened to one no, no, yeah, it would have

708
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: been screwed.

709
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, there definitely needs to be a better system set

710
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 8: up with it.

711
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 7: But I mean, you know, it worked, a had a

712
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 7: good time, and then at.

713
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: The end of the day, no one got in trouble,

714
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 2: so that's what mattered.

715
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for real and blessed to your hometown friends.

716
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: But Kenzie, thanks so much for telling us your story.

717
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 7: Of course, thank you so much for having me.

718
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: Okay, hey, Michelle and Grease, we have a big little

719
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: duo here with us on Dirty Rush and they are

720
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: going to be telling us their pledge story. Yeah, Hi,

721
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: thanks for having Usoe Michelle or who's the big, who's

722
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 1: the little?

723
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 7: Michelle is the big?

724
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, so yeah, she picked me up my freshman

725
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 6: year and we've been best friends ever since.

726
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: Oh I love that.

727
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 9: It was a quick transition when you know, you know

728
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 9: sometimes yes, you know you know which actually backsire. Michelle

729
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 9: hired on us and that's part of the story.

730
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: M hm.

731
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 6: And so yeah, when you get your bid right, and

732
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 6: I remember talking to Michelle all during rush and stuff,

733
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 6: and then on mid day your match with like a

734
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 6: bid day buddy, and so they kind of take you

735
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 6: to the whole like post mid day event and like

736
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 6: whatever the sorority had planned. And so we actually went

737
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 6: rollerblading was our bid day event, which was just like

738
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 6: really bonding to say the least, right, and then yeah,

739
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 6: we ended up going to like all the bid day

740
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 6: parties that weekend and like going to everything together. And

741
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 6: then so we kind of knew probably from like that

742
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 6: weekend that we were going to be big and little

743
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 6: and then shelf, you want to take it over.

744
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: And so this is kind of like your speed dating

745
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: getting to know each other.

746
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 5: Right.

747
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 9: So, Okay, the way our sorority does it, which is

748
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 9: probably similar across the board at our school, is you

749
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 9: get a bid day buddy for the actual bid day,

750
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 9: but then once that weekend passes, you're paired with a

751
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 9: new member as an older member.

752
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: Oh yes, okay, this is actually I think similar to

753
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: how I did it. Okay, I forgot the whole bid

754
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: day boddy thing.

755
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 9: Yes, And so they make it a big thing that

756
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 9: like there is no favoritism.

757
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 7: It's honestly great.

758
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 9: Like I look back on it as one of the

759
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 9: most fun times of college. I was so spoiled. I

760
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 9: was being taken out to dinner.

761
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and especially as a freshman, you're like, okay,

762
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: I get a free meal, and if you know, and

763
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: especially if a lot of older sisters wanted to go

764
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: on dates with you. There would be times where you're like,

765
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: you had your breakfast, lunch, and dinner paid for. It

766
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: was amazing.

767
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 9: And then the way like we do it too is

768
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 9: ubers are paid for to parties, like you don't leave

769
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 9: without your We call it a beta. Everyone has a

770
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 9: different name. But it is like princess treatment to the max,

771
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 9: which is such a funny like contrast from the way

772
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 9: that fraternities do it, because oh yeah, they're over here

773
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 9: getting like haste and we're getting spoiled.

774
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 5: M hmm.

775
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 6: I think I see the most money my entire college

776
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 6: experience that like four weeks of whatever that big little

777
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 6: process was.

778
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 9: So it is like painful, but anyways, you get to select.

779
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 9: It's like mutual selection every time. So you get to

780
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 9: select who you want to be prepaired with from the

781
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 9: beginning of the week, and then the younger member also pairs,

782
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 9: and then we have someone that like facilitates that pairing

783
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 9: and that's.

784
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 7: Who you're matched with each week.

785
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 9: And so, like Grace said, I knew that we were

786
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 9: probably gonna end up together in the end, so I

787
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 9: actually took the approach of like I'm going to pick

788
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 9: other new members in my sorority to get to know

789
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 9: everybody else, because I'm only going to be hanging out

790
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 9: with Grace for like the majority of the time after

791
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 9: this small period is over, and so I'm like over

792
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 9: here selecting other girls. I actually tricked her and told

793
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 9: her that I didn't pick her up as my little,

794
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 9: which is another story. But after the reveal, this was

795
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 9: a few weeks after, and I get called into our

796
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 9: sororities MCC, which is like standards, Yeah, and I was

797
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 9: so confused. I hadn't done anything wrong to my knowledge,

798
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 9: and I guess someone was like out to get me

799
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 9: and said that I was favoring Grace and like claimed

800
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 9: her so that nobody else in the chapter could have

801
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 9: her as her little. And I did post a picture

802
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 9: with her on mid day. Wait, that's normal, It's like

803
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 9: is that not allowed?

804
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: No, That's so normal though, because also during rush process,

805
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: if you vibe with somebody and then obviously they come

806
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: into your sorority, you're like yay, like I have my

807
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: potential new member that I wanted in my sorority now.

808
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 9: Right, And even the girls in Standards were like laughing.

809
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 9: But the way we do it is you have to

810
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 9: address anything any type of plane that is sent in.

811
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: So it was all just.

812
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 9: Kind of ridiculous. But it's such a funny testament to

813
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 9: like the rules of sorority. Like everything is about these

814
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 9: strict rules that we have to follow, and it is

815
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 9: just not real life.

816
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: No, it's like this book that we have to follow.

817
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: And then when you get into the real world after

818
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: college and realize that none of this crap matters, it's funny, right,

819
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: I mean, even when you're like five minutes until I mean,

820
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: I would say after your freshman year, you know that

821
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: none of this really matters. But it's just kind of

822
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: like a part of Greek life and a part of

823
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: the traditions and kind of how things work.

824
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 9: No, it totally is. There's also like a lot of

825
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 9: tension during that time. I feel like, because every new

826
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 9: member that just like went through recruitment is like now

827
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 9: comparing like, oh, well, this sorority does this to their

828
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 9: new members, or this person does this.

829
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: But there's a.

830
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 9: Sorority at our school that we tend to have tensions with.

831
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 9: But we had a brat party probably at our school

832
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 9: that hosts the most things, is the most lively, was

833
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 9: our favorite to go to always, and it was pretty

834
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 9: much just us in this other sorority, and I'm there,

835
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 9: I'm having a great time with Grace. We leave, everything's fine.

836
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 9: I'm sitting on the couch after with my guy friends

837
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 9: and they're like, look at this video. It's so funny.

838
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 9: They proceed to show me a video of one of

839
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 9: them peeing on the composite of this other sorority. They

840
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 9: grabbed the frame, put it in the toilet, and peede

841
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 9: on it. The next morning, I waked up to a

842
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 9: paragraph in our group chat with this other sorority, because

843
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 9: we're all pretty close with each other.

844
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: Thinking that, like, you guys set this up.

845
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 9: Yes, so one of my guy friends actually blamed the

846
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 9: entire thing on us, and I just remember thinking, like,

847
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 9: right as things were starting to get good, like we

848
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 9: were all getting along, so well, this happens.

849
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: But honestly, the frats probably did it on purpose. Michelle

850
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: and Grace, thank you guys so much for coming on

851
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: to Dirty Rash and telling me your crazy cirrity life

852
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: stories and your pledge stories. But I'm happy that you

853
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: guys came out on top and found your way to

854
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, but thanks for going on Dirty Rush

855
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: a bye bye. Thanks so much, to all the girls

856
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: for sharing their crazy Pledge stories from all ages, sororities,

857
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: and colleges. We love hearing your stories, so keep them coming.

858
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: Make sure to call us at eight four four two

859
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 1: seven eight Rush again eight four four two seven eight Rush,

860
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: or email us at Dirty Rush at iHeartRadio dot com.

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Speaker 1: Until next time, Love you guys. Bye,