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Speaker 1: We have a positive episode of the Mets Stuff Podcast.

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Speaker 1: The Mets win a series against the Seattle Mariners, a

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Speaker 1: All right, James series win something we haven't had many

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Speaker 1: It's tough to have a guy who like blew three

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Speaker 2: Like the fact that he was trying to pull that

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Speaker 2: You know, you're not gonna really see these guys three

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Speaker 2: But two like a big respect in him knowing he

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Speaker 2: has lean on that pitch. Nolan McLain threw nineteen curveballs

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Speaker 2: And trip A through nineteen combined curveballs. It's amazing to

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Speaker 1: I do have a genuine question and maybe this is

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Speaker 2: He's freaky with how this works. He's certainly freaky with

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Speaker 2: pitch like this is it's a frisbee. It's got sixteen

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Speaker 1: Those are insane. The swings that these guys were taking

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Speaker 1: The movement on that thing. I'll tell you what, James,

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Speaker 1: well you pitch it. I'm pissed at how good he is.

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Speaker 1: But also this is like the this is what.

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Speaker 2: You want with David Searings as your executive because everything

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Speaker 2: him to maintain his rookie eligibility because well, I mean, there,

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Speaker 2: but what could stop Noan McLay from being Rookie of

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Speaker 2: You're like, damn, but that sweeper it moves just more

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Speaker 1: He's fucking awesome six. He's really good. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: did make changes at Triple A. So this wasn't like

430
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Speaker 1: if we went back to June when we really had

431
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Speaker 1: these issues and we started pitching Paul Blackburn and Frankie

432
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Speaker 1: Montas and these guys. Nolan MacLean wasn't this version of

433
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Speaker 1: himself yet there were adjustments being made, There were changes.

434
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Speaker 1: I think he probably could have been up two weeks ago.

435
00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:08,720
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, but early deadline anyway, You're like, Okay, God,

436
00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,840
Speaker 1: it's so he's so good at his job. It's so

437
00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,840
Speaker 1: good that makes me hate him. But that's sleepy Stirs.

438
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Speaker 2: That's another one that I wanted to shout out, my

439
00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,640
Speaker 2: guy Rob, Rob who knows everything. He uh. He said

440
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Speaker 2: that looking back through Nolan McLain from the last few weeks,

441
00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,359
Speaker 2: he changed his arm angles slightly to kind of get

442
00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,680
Speaker 2: more of this horizontal break and that armside moving and

443
00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,560
Speaker 2: the glove side moving, the other pictures on some of

444
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Speaker 2: those pitches, so adding more run to that fastball, adding

445
00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,560
Speaker 2: more to that sinker. And it was a lot of

446
00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,199
Speaker 2: talk about also the color in the change up, but

447
00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,320
Speaker 2: he never even used those pitches. It was just all

448
00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:37,800
Speaker 2: about the curve. He used the cutter a little bit,

449
00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,080
Speaker 2: a little It was all about.

450
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Speaker 1: The curveball sweeper.

451
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Speaker 2: He only wound up throwing. How many of these colors

452
00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:42,119
Speaker 2: did they throw in this game?

453
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Speaker 1: I don't remember any change up. It was combined.

454
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Speaker 2: It was five percent of his total pitches. To color

455
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Speaker 2: in the change.

456
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Speaker 1: It was all that curveball.

457
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Speaker 2: Even the amount he was able to consistently use that

458
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Speaker 2: sweeper against the lefties was impressive. That was his primary

459
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Speaker 2: pitch at thirty six percent usage rate, like it was

460
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Speaker 2: in the zone a lot too, which should be But yeah,

461
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Speaker 2: he should be throwing that pitch as much as humanly

462
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Speaker 2: possible because discus thing. Also is funny that he made

463
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Speaker 2: his debut against the Mariners. We've camped him a lot

464
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Speaker 2: to Matt Brash because, like I've been saying on Twitter

465
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Speaker 2: for like two years, as one of the best sweepers

466
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Speaker 2: on earth. People like, how could you say that? Like

467
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Speaker 2: you don't know what you're talking about him? Like, because

468
00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,199
Speaker 2: we have day like you have to the second he

469
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Speaker 2: threw one of them in the spring breakout almost two

470
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Speaker 2: years ago.

471
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Speaker 1: Now it's like bad and you fell out of our chairs.

472
00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,520
Speaker 1: They were like, hold on that. This guy, this guy

473
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Speaker 1: was a two way player. Not just that was is

474
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Speaker 1: at the time. He actually was literally and at that

475
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Speaker 1: moment or two ways. You can also feel a two.

476
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Speaker 2: Way player in this about him because again, how well

477
00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,159
Speaker 2: he was fielding the position. It felt like he was

478
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,400
Speaker 2: good at managing the highs and lows on the mound.

479
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,960
Speaker 2: He seemed like calm, cool and collected.

480
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Speaker 1: He also, I was fucking yoked, He's fucking brolic this dude.

481
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Speaker 1: I also loved the simplicity of his of his wind

482
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Speaker 1: up in his release as Bang Bang Throw, And he

483
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,480
Speaker 1: even was touching the ninety six ninety seven, which while

484
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Speaker 1: the fastballs as bad shape like throwing, that helps a lot,

485
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Speaker 1: but it's it's such a he's a strange he has

486
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Speaker 1: a strange profile, but it works uncomfortable at bad. It

487
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Speaker 1: works so well with.

488
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Speaker 2: Those two breaking balls together, and it has me giddy

489
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Speaker 2: about what could be happening here with Nolan McLain.

490
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really really excited to watch his next start.

491
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Speaker 1: And also I don't know a little poetic that Nolan

492
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Speaker 1: McLain lives. Paul Blackburn dies as metafad and it's like

493
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,399
Speaker 1: it was almost probably with that moment. Yeah, probably couldn't

494
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,639
Speaker 1: find two different pictures normal Clay and Paul Blackburn right now.

495
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Speaker 1: One guy who's like all juice, all movement, all stuff,

496
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Speaker 1: and Paul Blackburn's just like like like we said when

497
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Speaker 1: we traded for him, he's gonna give up seven hits

498
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Speaker 1: four and runs over five and a third innings and

499
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna have six beers and you're gonna be all right,

500
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 1: let's go hit boys. It's a lot of beers.

501
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Speaker 2: But I also I respect Paul Blackburn a lot because

502
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,120
Speaker 2: he was kind of rehabbing his whole time, knowing how

503
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Speaker 2: long the Mets were taken to call him up, knowing

504
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,160
Speaker 2: that once he got called up, he would get Dafane.

505
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 2: And he was spending all of his time with these

506
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 2: guys like sprot and McClain in that Triple A rotation,

507
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 2: and he was still hanging out with them, helping them,

508
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 2: like you're sharing wisdom. Steve Gupps talked about that a

509
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 2: lot on Friday, So that was That's a good professional

510
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,639
Speaker 2: moment from Paul Blackburn. But there's also a good lesson

511
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Speaker 2: for all of us that you don't have to make

512
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 2: Paul Blackburn trades anymore. With what it seems like we

513
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 2: have coming up the pike here, the fact that McClain

514
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,400
Speaker 2: could walk in and do this, I think we're gonna

515
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 2: see Sproke this year. Jonah tom walks into Triple A

516
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,640
Speaker 2: and fucking dominates again. Even with the new bat, even

517
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 2: with the new baseball, it's just fastball. Even against Triple

518
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Speaker 2: A hitters. He didn't even have to go deep into

519
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 2: his bag for a their pitch. It was just fastballs

520
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 2: and change ups, and he said, good luck, guys, hope

521
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,399
Speaker 2: you could maybe hit it. He's not even throwing the

522
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Speaker 2: curve ball, which is one of the most which is

523
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Speaker 2: a discussing pitch, like it's there's it's we're gonna start steamroll.

524
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Speaker 2: And we mentioned a little bit towards the end of

525
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Speaker 2: last episode about we're the best pitching depths. I don't

526
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Speaker 2: want to talk about twenty twenty six. It's funny you

527
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Speaker 2: think about how crowds this rotation already looks like heading

528
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Speaker 2: into twenty twenty six, between guys under contract and minor

529
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Speaker 2: leaguers who have to get shots.

530
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Speaker 1: I do also love that prior to McLain coming up,

531
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Speaker 1: the whole conversation is about like, oh Stern's and his

532
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 1: pitching lab. He doesn't actually know what they're doing down there.

533
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Speaker 1: There's actually nobody making it work. And then you see

534
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Speaker 1: one of the guys that actually is the pitching lab,

535
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Speaker 1: like Mantos, is Stunk. There's no doubt that's been a

536
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Speaker 1: failure thus far, and I think the Mets expected to

537
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Speaker 1: get more out of him, and clearly they have, and

538
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 1: you also didn't get a spring training. I do think

539
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: that's a big reason why him and Manaiah both stink.

540
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 1: We've seen that with Blake Snell in years past. It

541
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Speaker 1: takes these guys a long time to get warm.

542
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Speaker 2: I told you, guys this from a really shitty one,

543
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Speaker 2: probably the shitt this episode we've done. When I was

544
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: in a hostile kitchen Vietnam the day of Mania or

545
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 2: one of them got hurt. I was like, you kind

546
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 2: of have to erase these seasons now, like anything we

547
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 2: get from these guys is sadly house money. Just like

548
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 2: the idea of call that last year to get that

549
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 2: serious injury when you're beginning to ramp up, that's so

550
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 2: bad because that's the first time you've put stress on

551
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 2: yourself physically in months, and then you instantly break like

552
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 2: you're you're you're fucked.

553
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Speaker 1: But where I was going to put a ball on

554
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: my pitching lab rant is that as soon as you

555
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Speaker 1: see one of the guys who's actually been in the

556
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Speaker 1: pitching lab for years, the guy that's like gonna be

557
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Speaker 1: the poster child for like this is what we can

558
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: do to you you're like, oh shit, And then you

559
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 1: look at Jonah Tong, you look at Brandon spro, you

560
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 1: look at the guys that they have in the miners.

561
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Speaker 1: Would you say Brandon Gerton made his double A debut

562
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Speaker 1: and looked phenomenal, struck out like ten guys. That's where

563
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Speaker 1: you start to really see what the actual pitching lab

564
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Speaker 1: is and all of a sudden, everybody's dead ass quiet

565
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: about what's going on with these Mets pitchers because you're

566
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Speaker 1: excited about Nolan McLay in the future.

567
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Speaker 2: John the Santucci strikes out eleven in Double A. We

568
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Speaker 2: couldn't even fit him into the navel mention of our

569
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Speaker 2: top ten people.

570
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Speaker 1: People were mad we didn't have him in there, Like

571
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Speaker 1: no Santucci love he's a two pitch pitcher.

572
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Speaker 2: Still, well, if he had the change up in college,

573
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Speaker 2: he hasn't thrown him much as a pro. But there

574
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Speaker 2: also could be a thing like these other guys where

575
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Speaker 2: he has to rediscover that pitch because of other things

576
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Speaker 2: that we've changed. So it's just that if you guys

577
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Speaker 2: haven't go back and listen to market as top ten

578
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 2: prospects that came out on Saturday, just because it's it's

579
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Speaker 2: starting to get crazy.

580
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Speaker 1: The guys that we got down there. We have four

581
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Speaker 1: top fifty guys. No, there's something a monster building.

582
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Speaker 2: And that's always the biggest thing with these organizations like this,

583
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 2: this Mets team, this entire Mets era, these last three years.

584
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Speaker 2: I mean between this year, last year, next year. It

585
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Speaker 2: feels like what the Dodgers felt like in like twenty

586
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Speaker 2: twelve twenty thirteen. The difference was they had Clayton Kershaw. Like,

587
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Speaker 2: if we had one of the best pitchers of all

588
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 2: time on these teams, like we'd be winning a lot

589
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 2: more regular season games. So Jacob de Gram, Yeah, that

590
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 2: was like if we still had Jacob de Gram, and

591
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: that was kind of what was happening right now. But

592
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 2: it's like it's it's kind of just like throwing a

593
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 2: lot of shit with the Walt the major league team,

594
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: seeing what sticks. Like, I know, we have an agent

595
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 2: core that we like, but it's like it's it's really

596
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: about what's going on right now in the background this organization.

597
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 2: How much better a lot of is because you say

598
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Speaker 2: about Nolan McLean the pitching lab. Nolan McClain pitches like

599
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: he was built in a pitching lab and he kind

600
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Speaker 2: of was because he was barely a pitcher when we

601
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 2: got him, like he was a college closer.

602
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Speaker 1: It was like, was he closer?

603
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: Now he might have started, I'll tell to check that

604
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Speaker 2: right now.

605
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Speaker 1: I think I think he was a reliever. I thought

606
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Speaker 1: he was a reliever. I don't know about closer.

607
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 2: But it's just like you got you literally put this

608
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 2: guy in a pitching lab and as a two way players.

609
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Speaker 2: This is his first full year of pitching and he's

610
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Speaker 2: done this much to get better. This quickly walked into

611
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 2: a major league field. It gets a good lineup. This

612
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 2: Maner's lineup is good. It's deep, good, lots of very

613
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Speaker 2: talented lefties, the probable American League MVP. It's like you

614
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Speaker 2: you get through that top five, it's a bit of

615
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: a gauntlet. And then they stacked the lefties in the bottom.

616
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Speaker 2: It was what six five six lefties in his lineup

617
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Speaker 2: on Saturday. They knew what to do to get out

618
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Speaker 2: Nolan McLain. It's just like, oh, now you got something.

619
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So McLain only actually started three games in college

620
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Speaker 1: as a pitcher. Wasn't sprote and Christians got both reliever

621
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Speaker 1: is well at point Christian Scots not spread Okay, but

622
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Speaker 1: that's I mean still oh for sure. And I think

623
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Speaker 1: that a lot of those big time college programs, he

624
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: gets some crowd rotations and they don't have as much

625
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Speaker 1: time for development like the major league teams have. They

626
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Speaker 1: can't really play the long game in college with these

627
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Speaker 1: guys you kind of got. There's another picture who's been

628
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Speaker 1: great recently that was Reliever in college. I can't remember

629
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Speaker 1: right now. Is Brian Wu No, it was w I

630
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Speaker 1: think I think I think.

631
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Speaker 2: Something about Schlitzler too, maybe like that, but it's.

632
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Speaker 1: Just and it was just funny though, just bigger talk

633
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: about college baseball, like how different that game is because,

634
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Speaker 1: like you mentioned, they don't have the time to develop truthfully,

635
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: these guys. It's like, man, you like had these guys

636
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: on your roster, you threw them one inning at a time.

637
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: Are you fucking stupid?

638
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 2: But also think about the embarrassment of richards for those

639
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: top level programs, so they can't do that. Carson Bench

640
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 2: was a picture in college too, him and Nola Clay roommates.

641
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: And another cool thing about Nolan McLain. I saw a

642
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: tweet that I said it too. I'm not gonna sho

643
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Speaker 2: have the person now because it was it was fun

644
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: with fun, with fun, with basic statistics. But he is

645
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Speaker 2: the guy whos also going to get tons of ground balls,

646
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Speaker 2: and you can see that.

647
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Speaker 1: The way that again, oh yeah, that was bad. I

648
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Speaker 1: was rough here.

649
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Speaker 2: You can't just add those together because the ground ball

650
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Speaker 2: rates by bad balls and strikeout rains play the appearances,

651
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Speaker 2: but the fact that he's going to be able to

652
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 2: work those breaking balls low on the zone, the fact

653
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 2: that sinker is a bowling ball, the fact that the

654
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: four team is more run than ride, which again isn't great,

655
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Speaker 2: but that's also ground balls. If he can be like

656
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Speaker 2: a fifty five percent ground ball twenty five percent strikeout rate, huge,

657
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Speaker 2: that's almost did You don't really leave a lot of

658
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Speaker 2: space right there here, there's actually do damage against you.

659
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Speaker 1: And that's in that game.

660
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Speaker 2: The managers had no barrels as well.

661
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Speaker 1: So it's just he's it's not like what Framber and

662
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Speaker 1: like Logan Web do basically strike out twenty five percent,

663
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Speaker 1: get fifty five percent ground ball, well furs Frambers travers

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Speaker 1: to go framberget I'm remember going like twenty eight sixty

665
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Speaker 1: two percent.

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Speaker 2: It's like you literally can't do anything. You can't do

667
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: anything against him, you have no chance. But it's it's

668
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Speaker 2: a funny, funny, funny profile. But again maybe there's i'd

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Speaker 2: be Framber has a crazy curve bump, he doesn't have

670
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Speaker 2: a sweeper. The fact that mclin could do both of

671
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Speaker 2: those things as distinctively as he can, it's it's a

672
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Speaker 2: special feel for spin. I don't really top of my mind.

673
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Speaker 2: I don't know which other picture has something like that.

674
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Speaker 1: I remember Jackson job out of the draft had crazy spin.

675
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Speaker 1: I don't know what it's been at the major league level,

676
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Speaker 1: but like in high school, he was putting up corl

677
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,479
Speaker 1: ezy crazy rpm. So there's there was a guy who

678
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: was doing a lot of spin. He's not pitching a

679
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: major league baseball anymore, he's in a foreign country, but

680
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: he had a lot of spin, a lot of spin.

681
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: He was pretty good doing spin. But it's just this

682
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: is the kind of thing this team needed. You need

683
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 2: the jolt of energy, you need something sid Also, it

684
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: helps to change the clubhouse around a lot of stuff

685
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: we've been talking about.

686
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Speaker 1: Now Lindor's hitting, it's like, okay, let's do that. Brett

687
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: Baty started to hit now too, And if you get

688
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: you get marks. A home run.

689
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 2: Mark Fantes hits these opposite field home runs every two

690
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 2: weeks and you're just like, please, please.

691
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Speaker 1: Just come back, please do it.

692
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 2: Because Ryan Reso looked over matching as Brian Will a

693
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: bad match up for him. Well, baby, was a good

694
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 2: match for him. The fastball stop zone.

695
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Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna let you.

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Speaker 2: Get off this easy. You gotta give Gregorisola some credit.

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Speaker 1: I will. Gregorso has been fucking awesome as met I

698
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: I was more worried about Gregory Soto because of the

699
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: history of what I've tweeted out about Gregor Risoto, the

700
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: fact that I dogged him so hard when the Phillies

701
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: got him, and I was right. He was horrible in Philadelphia.

702
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: He's like a huge reason why their runs ended quickly,

703
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: like they were not able to get any left handed

704
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: guys out because Gregor Risoto was there. That was my fear.

705
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Speaker 1: He's been phenomenal. I obviously want him to be good.

706
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Speaker 1: He's done a really, really good job. I've been impressed.

707
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: I still don't know how he gets right handed batters out,

708
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: but lefties. He's money and that's that's his job. That's

709
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: what we need him for to get Bryce Harpro out

710
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: to get Kyle swar Brown, to get Freddy Freeman in,

711
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: Shoheo Tani out.

712
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Speaker 2: And it's fantastic that Mendoza pulled mcclan when he did

713
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Speaker 2: before the third at bat from Josh Naylor, who had

714
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Speaker 2: gotten around on him, had a hard hit ball but

715
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 2: didn't didn't get a base hit, especially after he really

716
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: couldn't even touch Kyle Roley and any of those at

717
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: bats he had against him. Lenden face Blue rodgric Is again,

718
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: who's nowhere close to any of his at bats.

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Speaker 1: That was perfection. And then the two. I love that

720
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: Mendoza got booed too, because that's good on the Mets fans. Yes,

721
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: to not care about what the Mets fans at the

722
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: game should not be worried about situations and what's going on.

723
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Speaker 1: They were like McLean's pitching, well, I want more of him.

724
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Speaker 1: That's good. Mendoza not caring what the fans want. Going

725
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: with the process. That's all we've ever wanted from this

726
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: team and Carlos Mendoza's manager. Just trust the process, please

727
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: and the people in the city field.

728
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Speaker 2: One of the quickest and well coordinated booze to cheers

729
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,479
Speaker 2: because it was a boo for the walk, and then

730
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: the second McClean started coming towards the fans, he got

731
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: a massive cheer. We gave Pillan McLain three different standing ovations.

732
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: I've rarely ever seen a picture get a curtain call,

733
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: but like this, and and Diacomo tweeted out, like Matt's

734
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: rookies to give up no runs and strike eight batters abuse.

735
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: It was just McLain and Harvey and this. I'm not

736
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: comparing these two people, but this is a similar feeling

737
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Speaker 2: that I got when I watched him for the first time,

738
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Speaker 2: being like holy shit, like this guy's good, Like he

739
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: stepped on the field and he was good, and we

740
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: had not had that with a pitching prospect.

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Speaker 1: In so long. It's been so I mean, you were,

742
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Speaker 1: you were jazzed for Christian Scott last year. You were, oh, damp,

743
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: I can't wait for Christian Scott next year. But then

744
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: he got hurt.

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Speaker 2: Nolan mclaney's I'm not gonna say.

746
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Speaker 1: That, but I'm.

747
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Speaker 2: Just saying, like that's what killed the vigor for It's

748
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: probably so pumped about Scott last year, so I can't

749
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Speaker 2: wait for sports come up to tongue Right after that

750
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: Tong's the one I'm actually keeping a sharp eye on

751
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, the fact that he walked in the

752
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: Triple A and he just went fuck you and dominated,

753
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: and he has to be added to the forty man

754
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: roster this year because he's Rule five elgible. So why

755
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Speaker 2: not when you have two weeks to establish playoff eligibility

756
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Speaker 2: for these guys to put a picture on this team?

757
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Speaker 2: Who you know for a factor is when thirteen best

758
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Speaker 2: pictures in the organization, you know it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? What's the issue? Right?

760
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Speaker 3: look a little jacked.

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, and Crats, you are jacked and you

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Speaker 1: Where's Nolan MacLean right now in the in the starting

782
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: pitcher trust tree after one start? Where are you putting them?

783
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: On the Mets? Yeah? On the Mets? Where's he one? Two, three, four,

784
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: five six? Where you either one or two with go

785
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: that go that?

786
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: Actually Peterson, let's see Peter Peters has had a couple

787
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: bad ones in a row. But I guess at this

788
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: floor right now is three.

789
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: That's kind it. Yeah, he's at at least the third.

790
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: Although Clayholmes look pretty good tonight, because when people want

791
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: to act like Clayholmes, like I when people and now

792
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: I love this is my favorite thing in Met's fancy

793
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 2: this time here the grades flip the off season raids

794
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: and saying like Clay Holmes, f Clay Holmes has like

795
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: a three six ra for one hundred and thirty the

796
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: innings that he was a reliever. We said this last episode,

797
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: we'll say this episode, if he pitches well next week,

798
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: we're going to say in the next episode, this is

799
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: such a fucking incredible win for the Mets Clay Hoolmes.

800
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: If you took Clay Hoolmes off this team and just

801
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: replaced him with nothing, we'd be even worse.

802
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: We'd be under the place with Paul Blackburn, the other

803
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: guy who would have been instead of him.

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00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: It may his baby Kntan. I understand that one the

805
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: go back and forth with that. But the other thing

806
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 2: to watch with McClain now is the fact that he

807
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: is already at a career high in an innings. We're

808
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: already at one hundred and nineteen. Last year he threw

809
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: one hundred and ten.

810
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say, at some point, you got to

811
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Speaker 1: set a career high. Oh no, setting career highs expected.

812
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: But I don't think these guys are gonna let them

813
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: go more than like twenty twenty five percent past the

814
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: career high, which is why that the anger comes now

815
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: from us being like where has this guy been? But

816
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: that's something to watch where I do think that at

817
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: the at least see him cap Clay Holmes wise around

818
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: seventy eighty pitches, I think, but you're gonna keep letting

819
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: a pitch but you can't. It's interesting now because he's

820
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: well pass he's not well passed, but he's passive already.

821
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: So I do wonder how long they let him go

822
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 2: because I think tom him this year. I think I

823
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: think one to fifty could be the high end of it.

824
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: I think one forties where they call it forty mornings

825
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: and then last year, yeah, I think forties A lot

826
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Speaker 2: of innings.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but he's got to do it at

828
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Speaker 1: some point. They gotta do it at some point.

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Speaker 2: All these guys and Tong Tong, but Almar Tong to

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Speaker 2: the one hundred and eight last year was one hundred

831
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Speaker 2: and thirteen, so he's got the same. So that's why

832
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: you got limited bullets in these guys. At some point

833
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: they have to come to the major league level. And

834
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Speaker 2: that's my ball prediction of Leva. As we do this

835
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Speaker 2: Pitching prospect Talk, Nolan McLain wrap up Jonas Song is

836
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Speaker 2: going through a.

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Speaker 1: Pitch for the Mess this year. Okay, I hope you're right.

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Speaker 1: I hope I see it, and that means I think

839
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Speaker 1: that means good things if we see Jonah tongue.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully, I mean, or it's a Laska's last car we

841
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: could pull. And I guess the last thing from this series.

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Speaker 2: First of all, the Lit League stuff is awesome. They did

843
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: a great job.

844
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Speaker 1: That's great everything he did. That the video of McNeil

845
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Speaker 1: sliding down the hill at Williamsport on the cardboard and

846
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: the little kid who is just absolutely chirping this shit.

847
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: You scared McNeil and I love him calling him McNeil too.

848
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: You scared McNeil. You worried, you got you can't do?

849
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Speaker 1: Is you worried about this? You scared unbelievably you guys

850
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: didn't see it. The Mets posted on all their social

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00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: media this little eight year old ten year old is

852
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: just chirping the ship. I have McNeil, and I think

853
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: it got to him. McNeil played a great game today.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, I mean, you'll play the great game. The

855
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 2: whole team played the great game. I guess a really

856
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: good picture in George Kirk. They popped George Curbs the

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Speaker 2: ra up like a full run. It's a It's just

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Speaker 2: now the problem is that leaving this game.

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00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: The only thing I'm thinking about is Francisco al for.

860
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: Us that yeah, sucks, sucks because they we we've her

861
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: initial reactions are not good, and we're going for the

862
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 2: MRI tomorrow.

863
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: So it seems like he's done again.

864
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 2: And for some reason, for some reason, when Sue Alphas

865
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: runs the bases, his thumb ligaments get in the way.

866
00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: I don't know how, I don't know why. But this

867
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: second that happened, and he was going like this, like yeah,

868
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: the fact that he just got really hot and he

869
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: was already blazing, ready to like be the difference maker

870
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: in this line up again, and then this happens, his

871
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: fourth serious hands injury already in his career, between both

872
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: of his hands.

873
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: It's just it sucks. No, it absolutely took the wind

874
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: out of my sales there.

875
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 3: That was.

876
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: That was a tough one. I guess. I guess maybe

877
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: Kevin Parada maybe gets his chance one to.

878
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just probably go right with the Hey,

879
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: he's gotta.

880
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: Be had need to add to the forty man roster.

881
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: I think this year, right, I mean I think so

882
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: Probablysa's that year. It's just the fact that this sucks.

883
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: The fact that that's and that's how it goes is horrible.

884
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: Because he has especially Yeah, because we can see the

885
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: difference now in what Francisco Alvarez is, where he's still

886
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: not even there yet, but you're getting the glimpses versus

887
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: what Louis Torenz is. Where Louis Trenz is a backup catcher.

888
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: He gives you the throwing out runner's ability that is

889
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: elite in baseball. Louis Frens hasn't. Yeah, I was about say,

890
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he's got an extra base hit since May,

891
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: like it feels like forever. And truthfully, as much as

892
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: I love Luis Trends as a backup, I can't watch

893
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: him play every day. I cannot watch a platune of

894
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: him and Hayden Sanger for the rest of the year.

895
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: I will be not feeling great. That's hitting a picture basically,

896
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: and Alfreds is lacing the ball.

897
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: We finally put him back up towards the top of

898
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: the oiler. Now he's behind Jeff hitting sixth is his

899
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 2: hops is back like to eight hundred.

900
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: It's it's just so good.

901
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: It was happening so perfectly at the right time, exactly

902
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: when we needed him to step back, step back up

903
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: and be great. And that to lose him is again,

904
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 2: I can't.

905
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. It's horrific.

906
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 2: If he's out there, he could be out the rest

907
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: of regular season. Sure, I think he's probably after the

908
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: rest of the regular season. You guys hopefully will know

909
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: while you're listening to this, so either we will sound

910
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: really stupid or will probably sound really stupid. But it

911
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 2: just it feels like, based on the initial language they're

912
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 2: using about this, it seems terrified. Yeah, it seems very bad. Also,

913
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 2: we'll mention it was the game on oh Sunday game

914
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: for ciscolndor hardest hit ball of the season by two

915
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: four miles an hour, nice hard than any ball he

916
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: hit last year.

917
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 6: As well.

918
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: He's swinging the bats so much better. It's so obvious,

919
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: like when he's when he's pulling those balls down the

920
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: line is right hand, you know that swing's going well

921
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: because at times his right handed swing does get very

922
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: very very long. Lefty, I feel like, you know when

923
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: he's well, like pulling the down line, I love it.

924
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: That's where I think he still is his best. But

925
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: it's those line drives up the middle to that like

926
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: left center field ish gap where it's not really going

927
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: the other way, No, as a left. The upside when

928
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 1: he does those like to the to the left center

929
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: field gap as a left, those are phenomenal. That's where

930
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I think he's pretty locked in. And

931
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, the ops is creeping back up to

932
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: eight hundred, which is where like Ellie dels Ops is

933
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: and like all the good shortstops in baseball. With the

934
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: defense that Lindor continues to give us, and the fact

935
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: that he's the only shortstop in major league baseball history

936
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: to have twenty twenty five seasons in his major league career, insane.

937
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy again, we had been upset with

938
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: how he's playing, but now that it looks like he's

939
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: starting to heat up, it's it's nice to see Francisco

940
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: Lindoor back.

941
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: It's also insane to me that people still get like

942
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 2: I'm using like the most ferocious sarcastic air quotes here,

943
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 2: like scared about Francisco, Like how many years do we

944
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: have to do this and have the same like rickham

945
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: roll with him, like you know he's gonna cold, you

946
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: know he's going to get hot, you know he's gonna

947
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: be worth five or at the end of it, you

948
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 2: know he's gonna have around eight hundred ops and play again.

949
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: I know he made another error, but play good shortstop defense.

950
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 2: A shortop defense is starting to tick in the wrong direction,

951
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: I think. But he's also like I think one of

952
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: the oldest starting shortstops in the Leak. I'm pretty sure

953
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: about that.

954
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 1: He also still I think is like ninetieth percent tile

955
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: in OA at the position. So it's like he may

956
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: not be like Dansby Swanson where you're seeing like sixteen

957
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: oh a shortstop anymore, but like six sevens pretty elite.

958
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 2: Still we're also we are getting some not really actually

959
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: but I was hoping to see the bat speed is

960
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: stranded up for the Lindor but actually it's not really

961
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: just still holding fast between seventy and seventy one all season.

962
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: It's kind of what he is.

963
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, it's hot, but again, if he's productive now,

964
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: he is productive brand Nimost hitting against Like now we're

965
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: starting to see like what this lineup feels like when

966
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 2: he can't click and doing against a good pitcher in

967
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: George Kirkby twelve hits a million hard hit balls, like

968
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 2: it was just over and over and over and over again.

969
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: There was there. There's a common denominae denominator here, James.

970
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: And when we do our series pre for the Nationals,

971
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: you have your duty to fulfill again, which is to

972
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: tell the Mets hitters what is happening, because we've now

973
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: done it with four pitchers and they've hit all of them.

974
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: They've hit every single one. So you gotta there's a

975
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: lot on your shoulders right now because we know maybe

976
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: some guys aren't really doing their jobs as well as

977
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: you are.

978
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 7: There.

979
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, messed up advance scouting the James shadow game plans,

980
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: but then it was cool with the wo game plan.

981
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 2: You could see what I was saying where it's just

982
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: like it's It was also so funny having him versus

983
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 2: McLain because they're the opposite pictures. If you combine them,

984
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 2: the best picture in the history of the sport. You

985
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: combine those guys, you get like Sandy Kofax. But it's

986
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: just the fact that who is just I'm going to

987
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: throw you seventy percent of fastballs behind the zone, good luck,

988
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: and McClain's like I'm spinning everything like you're never even

989
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: gonna be able to see it, but it is.

990
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: It was, It was really cool watching. I just got

991
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: the fact that for Cis Crawver's asking Hurt now to

992
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: take the wind out of our sales. After I maybe

993
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: he'll be okay, Maybe he'll be okay, Maybe he'll be

994
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: That's that's what we'll have to be. Are we we're

995
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: gonna do our media marvel because yeah, I have one

996
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: that's separate what we're gonna do. But there's one massive

997
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: one that we have to do. Take take it away, James.

998
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: So I want to get just one out of the

999
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 2: way quickly. I don't know how intently you were watching

1000
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 2: Sunday Night Baseball.

1001
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: With with With When Rob Manford got in the booth,

1002
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: he had no sound on.

1003
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 2: So he was talking about expansion coming to Majorleague Baseball,

1004
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: which they've be talking about this for years now. We

1005
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: think it's going to happen, whether it be Nashville, whether

1006
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: it be Vancouver, Vegas.

1007
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: We know it is getting.

1008
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 2: We know there's going to be two new teams in

1009
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: baseball probably the next five years.

1010
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: He said.

1011
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: When that happens, it will be an opportunity to geographically

1012
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: realign the divisions WHOA, and then we'll get the Super Division.

1013
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 2: Matt's Yankees, Red Sox Phillies to the rest of our lives.

1014
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 2: And what's going to be the teams with war It's

1015
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: going to be the teams of four of the six

1016
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: highest payrolls. We're going to play each other all the time.

1017
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: We're going to absolutely cannibalize each other for the rest

1018
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 2: of our lives.

1019
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 1: It's a good thing. The salary caps coming. It won't

1020
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: actually matter then, I guess it's going to make everything fair, right,

1021
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: the salary cap. That's the reason you have it there,

1022
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: that's it. No one know one's going to be spending

1023
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: money Moore, So the Pirates can still spend twenty million

1024
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: dollars in and still be bad. Perfect. But yeah, no,

1025
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: I like the chaos. Like if I'm playing Home the

1026
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: show that's sick, that's awesome. Mets, Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies

1027
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: in real life, I don't want that. I mean, we

1028
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: talked about it before with some people were like the

1029
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: Mets when interleague play like was not as prevalent, it

1030
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: was crazy that we just like played the Yankees all

1031
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: the time, Like that was a major disadvantage when every year, Yeah,

1032
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: like the Nationals get to play the Orioles like two

1033
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: like terrible teams were beating the shit out of each

1034
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: other every single game. Mets are like, what if we

1035
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 1: play one of the best teams in baseball ever every

1036
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: single year.

1037
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: I think if we realigned geographically, I'd like it. I'd

1038
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: like to petition to be part of the National League Central.

1039
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: I'd love to be a part of the Central. Let's

1040
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: be the Central, just take Let's take City Field and

1041
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 1: move it over there. Let's be in the National Legue Central.

1042
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: Let's send the Bruis to the East and see how

1043
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: each of those teams do for the next decade.

1044
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: You think that a Bruise will be the best team

1045
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: in baseball if they're playing the NA least. Yeah, I

1046
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't want to talk about the brewis

1047
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: black magic. I don't want it. I don't even want

1048
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: to which they didn't. They didn't fucking help us today, whatever, whatever,

1049
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: But tell people about the real media marvel this week? Yeah,

1050
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Brandon Tierney just went on w f A

1051
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: N and basically had one of the craziest things I've

1052
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: ever heard said on public radio, just straight up talking

1053
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: about Juan Soto not being the age that Juan Soto

1054
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: claims he is, which.

1055
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 7: Now most of you will not believe me if you

1056
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 7: gave me a chance to put him on the Yankees

1057
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 7: right now, for the contract he signed with the Mets,

1058
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 7: or the contract that the that the Yankees offered. My

1059
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 7: answer was, would be now and will be forever. I'm good, pass.

1060
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 7: I think he's great for the Mets. I think you

1061
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 7: got him at the right time. I think you needed

1062
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 7: that for all the things Salad I talked about, perception,

1063
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 7: blah blah blah.

1064
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm good now.

1065
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 7: I'm not good to the point good about the Yankees, tam,

1066
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 7: and that's a cashman thing. But fifteen years of this, honest,

1067
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 7: how do you?

1068
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't.

1069
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 7: Does he look twenty six? Does he? I'm being honest, like,

1070
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 7: I are you doing the old album pools? I shouldn't

1071
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 7: even start. He's gonna get me in trouble. But does

1072
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 7: he look twenty When you're twenty six, you still have

1073
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 7: a youthful glow? Does he look twenty six? Yeah, but

1074
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 7: he's been in baseball for like seven plus years. I

1075
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 7: gotta give him a little bit more of a well

1076
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 7: so he's remember when he came in, he looked a

1077
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 7: little bit more of a baby face. Now he's now

1078
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 7: he's grown into his own Okay, I got it, and

1079
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 7: I can't prove it. But listen, in my own mind,

1080
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 7: while I don't know for sure that I don't, I

1081
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 7: I think that there's a good sham thick of this

1082
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 7: whole deeper. I think that there's a chance, a good

1083
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 7: chance he's not twenty six. I'll say it whatever, I won't,

1084
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 7: I won't lie. I'm sure that there's plenty of baseball

1085
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 7: players that their ages are different, Oh greed, but we're

1086
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 7: talking about this one and height and weight as well.

1087
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: Not gonna make any claims because this is a podcast.

1088
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: Everything's alleged. But that's a pretty insane comment to make

1089
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 1: about a young Latino player that I don't think gets

1090
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: made about young American players. Pete Alonso hasn't had a

1091
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: good head of hair since he was like twenty one.

1092
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if there was ever questions about the

1093
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: age of Pee Alonso based.

1094
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: On the way that he looks, for sure, But they're

1095
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: also there always have been though those kinds of things said,

1096
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: because there are just different record keeping processes in these countries,

1097
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: and there's like a It is a logical fallacy, but

1098
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: it does make sense that if you're a sixteen year

1099
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: old but you're actually eighteen years old, you just make

1100
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: more money in those places. But then shout out to

1101
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 2: a great member of the mes community. Casey at the

1102
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: Bat did a great thread with every single public photograph

1103
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: that wan so Thos ever had face. He went to Facebook.

1104
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: He got Facebook pictures. Oh yeah, going by the year

1105
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 2: and showing when Wanso's photographed himself looking at his age

1106
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: when he was clearly a teenager and he's supposed to

1107
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: be a teenager, looked like he was clearly his early twenties.

1108
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 2: He's supposed to be his early twenties. And now the

1109
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: fact this guy's been on major league weight regimens and

1110
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 2: like for years now, the fact that he's like a

1111
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: buff twenty six going on twenty seven year old, people

1112
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: can't believe it.

1113
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: It's just like, guys, the way.

1114
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: That Brandon Tierney was doubling down on this for a

1115
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 2: player that we have to say probably too often, it's

1116
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: been objectively so good this year and want so though incredible,

1117
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: only play in Major League Baseball right now to have

1118
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: thirty home runs of twenty stolen bases.

1119
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a youthful glow.

1120
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: According to Brandon Tyranny, who for some reason is the

1121
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: expert on these kinds of things, so allegedly, now we

1122
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: have to be spreading these absolute, these lies with no

1123
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: basis reality whatsoever. That want so's lying about it. It's just

1124
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: the way people feel like we have done this bit

1125
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 2: in this podcast the past, specifically with the Albert Pooles thing,

1126
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 2: just because we know that when Octavia d'otel talked about

1127
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: playing youth baseball, Albert pooholes that they were in the

1128
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: same league and Pools's list is like five years younger

1129
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: than Dotel. So that's like, that's a funny thing. Like

1130
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: a lot of these kids do play up, but the

1131
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: fact that is that much, it's funny. But yeah, so

1132
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: Casey at the bat, it was just it was pictures

1133
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: and pictures of Wan so they're going through.

1134
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: A whole thread about how young he was.

1135
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: Got one from twenty seventeen where Wan Soa looks like

1136
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: a child when he should have been like a seventeen

1137
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: year old.

1138
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a nineteen year old, nineteen year old twice seventeen.

1139
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: It's pretty insane again to publicly make those statements. It's like, again,

1140
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: I think you guys know the word I'm thinking of. Yeah,

1141
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: not gonna say it because it's crazy. But to say

1142
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: that publicly, it's like it's like a self report. It's

1143
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: so bizarre. Why you would ever already take that, I know,

1144
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: but why would you ever make that your claim. This

1145
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: isn't even like like again all publicity, good publicity, whatever,

1146
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: Like WFAN sucks. We know that that radio station is

1147
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: like a joke with what they say ninety nine percent

1148
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: of the time on the airwaves, and they're doing anything

1149
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: to stay relevant, and we're feeding into it because we're

1150
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 1: talking about them. But I don't think anybody who heard

1151
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 1: Brandon Tierney say that Wansta he thinks Wansda is older

1152
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: than he actually is, is like, you know what, I

1153
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: gotta tune in to see what this guy's got to

1154
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: say next week because I think he's just speaking the

1155
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: facts that we don't get from anybody else.

1156
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same type of COVID language that we

1157
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 2: told you guys bad last week when John for Sheldo

1158
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 2: calls David certain slick.

1159
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's those when people call Wansta lazy. Yeah, like,

1160
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: objectively speaking, he's not lazy because he's stealing base, he's

1161
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: running bases better than he ever has. And also it's

1162
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: really funny because it drives my dad nuts when people

1163
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: like get on soda for being lazy not running out

1164
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: the ground balls to first base, all that kind of stuff.

1165
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: Pete like hits ground balls, doesn't run the ball every

1166
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: single time in the ball Yeah, McNeil didn't run it out.

1167
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: Brandon Nimo, I know. Big thing with Sodo would right,

1168
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: was he's the last guy out of the dugout every

1169
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: single time I was at like three games in the

1170
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: last week. Brandon Neimo's out of the dugout last a

1171
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: lot of times. Brett Baty's been out of the dugout last.

1172
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just aren't out first. Like it's crazy, the

1173
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: cherry picking, the terminology and the language that's used when

1174
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: you talk about Wan Soto first to some other players

1175
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball, specifically Brandon Tierney's language that he use. Yes,

1176
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: it's very specific.

1177
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: I think you guys know what we're getting at here,

1178
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: because it seems like things that are not being said

1179
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: about other players who do similar things, it's not worth them.

1180
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: And again, while so though just got the first twenty

1181
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 2: steel season, the only thirty twenty hither in major League Baseball.

1182
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: That is fucking crazy to think about it.

1183
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: He's stealing that much because he's older than what he says, James,

1184
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 1: That's always what happens. Guys who are older than they

1185
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: claim steal more. That's usually what happens. Did you notice

1186
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: he didn't have a youthful glow? It's it's kind of

1187
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: like what did a what did clappish say? He felt

1188
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 1: somber um and and fat? You called him fat, too

1189
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: fat and somber.

1190
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: It's just it's it's again, like you know, this is

1191
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 2: going to happen when someone like Juan Solo, who's brash,

1192
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: who's young, who's talented, is the highest paid athletes of

1193
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: all time.

1194
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: You're it's funny like this, you're going to take shots

1195
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: like I I do love saying he's the highest paid

1196
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: athlete of all time because he's ours, But like, hey, av,

1197
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: he's not the highest paid athlete of all time. There's

1198
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: other athletes that beat him in that. Yeah. Yeah, shay

1199
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: Gil is about to make a million a game. Yeah,

1200
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: So I was gonna say, like over a term of

1201
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: a contract, one singular contract given out, Yes, but every

1202
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: player in the NBA, that's any sort of good is

1203
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: going to make significantly more than wan Soto will in

1204
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: that contract.

1205
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, seven hundred and fifty eight. Keep the

1206
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty million.

1207
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: Only if Shay's gonna get be getting paid eighty million

1208
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: dollars a year, he's what twenty five.

1209
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 2: It's also this, that's the similarity too, is that jan

1210
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 2: so though, because he was so good when he was

1211
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 2: so young, got to the major league level where he

1212
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: could sign this kind of contract at this age flat

1213
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 2: micro juniors, you know, the great season, And these are

1214
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: also the same kinds of things that some media members

1215
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 2: say about him. That's weird. That's a weird coincidence that

1216
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 2: he's also could it be it's crazy. Yeah, Well, he's

1217
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: also a tremendous active see lademer Grail make a scoop

1218
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 2: of for his base, do the splits. He's a freak lady,

1219
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: your graduator.

1220
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: But it's just also.

1221
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 2: Similar thing happening right now, Ka tell Martell all of

1222
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 2: a sudden, the guy who again, like there's been some

1223
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 2: conflicting reports, we're not gonna we're not gonna comment on those,

1224
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: but if there's actually a chance that the Diamondbacks train

1225
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: him as one of the best hitters in baseball. That

1226
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 2: would be one of the first off these episodes of

1227
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 2: the Messed Up podcast. But this this language that people

1228
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: use around one so the tone is pervasive, and it's

1229
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 2: a shame because he's so fucking talented. He is so

1230
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 2: good game in and game out. He does so many

1231
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: things to help his team win NonStop every single day.

1232
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: We've already gotten so used to his excellence that it's

1233
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: no longer even amazing anymore. The fact he's sitting around

1234
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: nine hundred ops. But again, the first the only thirty

1235
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: twenty guy in the league, and people like having.

1236
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: A bad year.

1237
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: This is you watch this guy played play baseball every

1238
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: single day. You're kind of amazed by it.

1239
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: The one fifty w RC plus is a bad year

1240
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: for Wan Soto. Just let that sink in. That's sick.

1241
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: That's so awesome. But that's the media marvel for us.

1242
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna move on to the series preview here we

1243
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: got the Washington Nationals's not gonna go two in depth,

1244
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: of course, We're gonna let James tell us what the

1245
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: pictures throw, what the Mets hitter should look like. It's

1246
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: it's been fucking working so We're gonna keep doing that.

1247
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: But what are what are our pitching matches? Nationals are?

1248
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 1: What a weird team they are right now?

1249
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even think where's the word. I think

1250
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 2: they're just and weird, strange like whatever. But pitching matchups

1251
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 2: this series, We've got an off day Monday. We enjoy

1252
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 2: your off day. And we also got six forty five

1253
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 2: star times in Washington, so be mindful of six forty

1254
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: five star times. So six forty five Tuesday Night David

1255
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 2: Peterson versus Jake Irvin, Wednesday six forty five Core that

1256
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 2: I Sango versus Brad Lord, and then Thursday the podcast

1257
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 2: God's Blessed, God's Blessed Us mark a four o'clock star.

1258
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: Time in DC. It's still not even one. What the

1259
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: the fuck?

1260
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 2: Sean and I versus Mackenzie Gore.

1261
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: Ooh Battle of the Lefties, who have been horrible.

1262
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gore's last two starts having good, But I like,

1263
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to see Jake Irvin, who is just

1264
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 2: the absolute the definition of a Mets killer, which sucks

1265
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 2: watch other teams kind of hit him pretty well. Usually

1266
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: most of the time, it's gonna be steadied out like curveballs.

1267
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: Just lots and lots of curveballs.

1268
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 2: He's really he totally lost his slide at.

1269
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: Beginning of the season.

1270
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 2: He found it lately over the last few months, and

1271
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: it's like he's still not really having a good years

1272
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 2: over five. His whip is one point four. But just

1273
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 2: it's going to be lots of curveballs, probably early in counts, definitely,

1274
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 2: especially for the lefties. Look for curveballs in the zone early,

1275
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: almost sick curveball early.

1276
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: Jake Irvin's like exactly why you can't eye test, because

1277
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: if you watch Jake Irvin pitch, you'd be like, pretty

1278
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: good pitcher, Like I think this guy's got some stuff,

1279
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: and then you look at the numbers you're like, oh, okay,

1280
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: I understand what the issue is.

1281
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 2: He has moments of being good, like I still think Jake,

1282
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 2: I think I think it lasts for a long time

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Speaker 2: in the league. Like when you could spend a curve

1284
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 2: ball passes the eye test, you're good until you're like

1285
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 2: fifty like probably more still just rip a currve balls

1286
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: like that. Brad Lawrence another interesting one. He's had a

1287
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 2: good year. It's just it's very fastball, slider heavy, and

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00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 2: the slider, the tight gyro slider, so it's a little

1289
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: bit more platoon neutral, but that's kind of what you're

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00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: going to get from him. It's going to be the

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00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 2: lefties are going to just see so many fast balls

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Speaker 2: and then it's fine fastballs around ninety five, but it's

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00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 2: just you're gonna and then he'll do change up to

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00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: the lefties. But he does that thing like I was

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00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 2: talking about with McLain where his four seam fastball acts

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00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 2: like a two seam fastball. It has natural sink on

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00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: and he's basically a side armoor and it has a

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00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: good bit of armside run.

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Speaker 1: So he's he's expecting he's gonna be a ground ball guy.

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Speaker 2: So that might be the game to attack for attack

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00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: the singles, that's a great game. Watch out for the

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00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: Mark Vientos Brad Lord matchup. That's when I think is

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00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 2: going to because I like that, and I like Ronnie

1304
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 2: against him too. I don't know if we're gonna be

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00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 2: able to get both those guys in the lineup, but

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00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 2: I do like both of those matchups for Bradlore because

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00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 2: the fastball is a sinker and then the sinker is

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00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: a bowling ball and the McKenzie gore, he has lost

1309
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 2: it lately. He found his last two starts. His whole

1310
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: thing is breaking ball consistency and command else's command in general.

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00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 2: Because McKenzie Gore, he's another guy. He looks like he

1312
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 2: could be Clayton Kershaw. Yes, he just doesn't know where

1313
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: the ball is going. Imagine Clay kerschwerl Throy eight miles

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00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 2: an hour, because that's like what mcken's gore kind of

1315
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: could be, especially the new slider he's developed this year.

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00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 2: But of late, the zone rting, that slider and the

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00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: curve ball have just dropped like a rock. So McKenzie

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00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 2: gore is almost like to see a strike pitcher, And

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00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: I think what I mean kind of which is crazy,

1320
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 2: like he has you have to see if you could

1321
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: do that.

1322
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: And who was.

1323
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 2: Talking about I think that Coney ed Warla Prez is

1324
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: talking about that during the game on Sunday about some

1325
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 2: of these pitchers. Maybe I was listening to the Dodgers

1326
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 2: broadcast on Friday when they were talking about it was

1327
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: Randy Vasquez. Yeah, because you basically wanted to just let

1328
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 2: Randy Vasquets throw you to strike because you'll know if he

1329
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: can't do it. Best thing you don't know if he's

1330
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 2: going to is you want to see that strike. But

1331
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:33,959
Speaker 2: then you get up against a guy like Brian Woo

1332
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 2: and even today they met George Kirkby. The approach was great.

1333
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 2: We attacked George Kirby lose the prolific strike throwers. So

1334
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 2: I think that's that's something like attack Jake irv and

1335
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 2: he throws strikes with McKenzie Gore.

1336
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: See if he can throw strikes first offense wise James would.

1337
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: He's been heating up again. He got a little bit cold,

1338
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: but he's been heating up again. See Jabms is still

1339
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: really good. I don't really got anything else to say

1340
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: about this lineup we got.

1341
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 2: There's like some I mean modern Luis Garcia kills the Mets.

1342
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: Oh he's injured, true, I know he's not. He's back.

1343
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: Dylan Cruise. Yeah, Dylan Cruz is back from injury.

1344
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 2: I think people are sleeping on how good Dylan Cruz

1345
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 2: is just because he started to season for nineteen. He's

1346
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: he's an awesome baseball player. And then Riley Adams, some

1347
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: of the fastest bats be in the league.

1348
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: And also kills the Mets. I think he has like

1349
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: forty percent of his major league home runs against the Mets.

1350
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 2: They just dfa Nathaniel Low who's picked up by the

1351
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 2: Red Sox filling the first base voice.

1352
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: Wow, nice goold pick up.

1353
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: And Josh Bell who also kills the Mets in this lineup.

1354
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: But again, just just get on top of these guys,

1355
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 2: just hit them again. Also, can I read you some

1356
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 2: of the names in the bullpen?

1357
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, go for it. I'd like to just hear the names.

1358
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 1: PJ pooland who is that a real name? PJ Poohlan, PJ.

1359
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 2: Pooland Connor Pilkington with a K, Connor with K.

1360
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 1: I know about Pilkington, Orlando Ribalta, that's not one I've heard.

1361
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: Shinosuke Okasara, I do know him. I'll save my comments on.

1362
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: Him so that it's again I'm saying names. But you

1363
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 2: get to these poor stars early. Be aggressive, but you know,

1364
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 2: be aggressive more so on Lord than Irvin than Mackenzie Goore.

1365
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: And then let's just beat the piss out of his bullpen.

1366
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 2: Let's let's let's get the momentum going. Let's walk into

1367
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: Atlanta next week acting like we have something like we

1368
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 2: got chip on his shoulders.

1369
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: Ready to go. You think Brandon Tierney will mention that

1370
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: he doesn't believe schinosk Ogasawara is twenty seven, or do

1371
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 1: you think he's gonna hold that one back?

1372
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 2: We had to do a whole episode about Ronald Acunia

1373
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 2: when when when his own manager called him lazy when

1374
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 2: he's one of the best players in baseball.

1375
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: So it's just it's it's a.

1376
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 2: Whole it's a I'm curious that these people get away

1377
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 2: with what they're doing, even Thore's those guys around the radio.

1378
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 2: So you guys come listen to mess to the podcast because

1379
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 2: we're James better.

1380
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 1: We got Frankie Peppers. I'm checking.

1381
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 2: So now I'm conflicted about Frankie Peppers because we just

1382
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 2: won our first series without Frankie Peppers.

1383
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: Did he send? He said, we sent.

1384
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 2: We're playing okay and the Nationals are good. Good A

1385
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: good test for that, Yeah, it's a good test. So

1386
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: we luckily do have Frankie Peppers.

1387
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: Thank god, gentlemen, this is Frankie Peppers.

1388
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 8: How you're going you don't let the Mets get and

1389
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 8: trust the sauce, gentleman. Finally a series win, a good

1390
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 8: looking series win, and I had bolognies yesterday I had

1391
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 8: Bolognier's today the boys, so he Bolonie's life is good.

1392
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 8: We win the Little League series game, kid gets all

1393
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 8: nervous talking to Pete.

1394
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: It's all good, gentleman. I wish I would be able

1395
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 1: to have gotten the shitty field. I love power too.

1396
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 6: Saturday, I do want to thank Sean and I hope

1397
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 6: you boys had a lovely time at the ball games.

1398
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 6: And hopefully this to sign is something good coming for

1399
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 6: this team.

1400
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 8: We really need it, so we got to keep this

1401
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 8: momentum going. Gentleman, it's bolonies every day till the end

1402
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 8: of the season. I will I will suffer congestive heart

1403
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 8: failure for this team. Whatever, I'm gonna do it anyway.

1404
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 8: Always hope you're doing well. I'll talk to you soon.

1405
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 8: Let's go Mets.

1406
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: It's so nice to hear Frankie's voice after a good series.

1407
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 2: If Frankie does every single day for the rest of

1408
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 2: the season and something good happens, this is now officially

1409
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:06,439
Speaker 2: like cosmic level shit.

1410
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: There's there's a there's gotta be a new like a

1411
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 1: new disease, right a few every day like that's.

1412
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 2: Just being that's anti discrimination.

1413
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: Sorry, sit there for Brandon tyranny.

1414
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 2: But uh I just it does piss me off now

1415
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 2: looking back these last few weeks about how many not

1416
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 2: even fifty to fifty games we lost, how many?

1417
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: Like why are we doing this?

1418
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 2: Because this is this is baseball. We have six weeks left.

1419
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 2: We need to make the playoffs. There is we have

1420
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 2: Steve Cohen going up against Bob Castellini, mister mister twenty

1421
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 2: five billion versus mister under a billion. You can't you

1422
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 2: can't miss the playoffs against this team. It's we could

1423
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: have just squeaked out any of those freaking games, just

1424
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 2: having two more wins. It would feel so good right now.

1425
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 3: But that's it.

1426
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: You gotta look forward, not back. It's just got to

1427
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 2: keep playing gootball. And the National is a good team

1428
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 2: play gootball against.

1429
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: That's baseball, Susan, And that's why you listen to the

1430
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: Mets of the podcast. Here we got to say thank

1431
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: you guys for listening, watching, enjoying. This episode as always

1432
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: another long one, but you guys have been you guys

1433
00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: have been liking these long episodes, so we'll keep giving

1434
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,919
Speaker 1: thing to you, especially because we've got a lot to say.

1435
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,680
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00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: draftneck Mark with the seed. Thank you guys for listening,

1442
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: for watching. We'll catch you all after the national series.

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Speaker 1: Beace out out, guys. Let's go Mets