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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone. It is the local Toy Dealers KSR. Postgame

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Speaker 1: show Cats get annihilated in Nashville forty five to seventeen

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Speaker 1: in a game that probably wasn't even that close. If

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Speaker 1: we're all being honest, you can give a shout. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna let you guys do a lot of the talking

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Speaker 1: after this first segment, in part because you know, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't really know what the sentiment of the fan

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Speaker 1: base kind of is at this point. It was it's

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Speaker 1: a really odd thing. I went into this game sort

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Speaker 1: of thinking Kentucky had a real shot. I thought for

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Speaker 1: certain it would be close. And it was never close,

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Speaker 1: and Kentucky was really after the first quarter, never in it.

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Speaker 1: Diego Pavia did whatever he wanted, produced probably one of

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Speaker 1: the great individual performances against UK football ever, most passing,

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Speaker 1: your second, most passing yards against UK since Peyton Manning

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Speaker 1: back in nineteen ninety seven, made some couple of amazing

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Speaker 1: deep throws, and he was hugely significant to the game.

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Speaker 1: But Kentucky just in general was off awful offensively, nothing

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Speaker 1: I mean until the fourth until basically mop up time.

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Speaker 1: Kentucky's offense was non existent. Defensively, you saw for the

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Speaker 1: first game, you really saw the impact of having all

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Speaker 1: the guys hurt in the secondary. But but you know,

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Speaker 1: there's hurt and then there's I mean, the first guy

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Speaker 1: that got beat was a veteran in Hardaway, so it

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Speaker 1: wasn't even one of the young guys playing. It was

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Speaker 1: just a disaster. I mean, Kentucky got completely annihilated. And

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Speaker 1: it's really the first time Vandy has annihilated the team

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Speaker 1: this year. They've played so many close games, but it

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Speaker 1: happened in this one, and you know, so now you're

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Speaker 1: left in a weird situation. Kentucky was I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: morale or well, I know, morale around the team and

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Speaker 1: the program had not been lower than it was three

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Speaker 1: weeks ago or four weeks ago since Joker Phillips was

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Speaker 1: the coach, which of course led to a fire. And

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Speaker 1: then you win three straight games, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: if people were, you know, gung ho, but certainly the

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Speaker 1: dogs kind of got called off a little bit and

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Speaker 1: people were like, Okay, well things have improved. We like

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Speaker 1: Cutter Bowley, I still don't know about where the program

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Speaker 1: is long term, but at least it's been stabilized. And

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Speaker 1: I said the only thing that can't happen is to

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Speaker 1: get blown out these next two games, and they got

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Speaker 1: blown out in the first game. So you're five and six,

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Speaker 1: and you play a Louisville team next week that themselves

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Speaker 1: is reeling, that has lost three straight, that got blown

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Speaker 1: out today against SMU, maybe as many points, maybe not

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Speaker 1: as thoroughly as we did, but still thirty eight to seven,

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Speaker 1: and the you know, the Battle of the Bluegrass next week,

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Speaker 1: the Commonwealth Cup. I guess is two programs reeling, two

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Speaker 1: programs with fan bases frustrated, and I guess the question

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Speaker 1: will be which one will end up more frustrated. I

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Speaker 1: was sitting here trying to think of what that line

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Speaker 1: will be going into it, and I really have no idea.

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Speaker 1: I guess Louisville will be a favorite, maybe like three

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Speaker 1: and a half. Maybe that's just a guess, though I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Usually you'd have some idea. I really don't know.

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Speaker 1: I would say Louisville maybe three and a half, something

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Speaker 1: like that. But for Mark Stoops, the Louisville game is

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Speaker 1: probably the difference between a frustrating ultimately mediocre season, which

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Speaker 1: would occur with a win a bowl game where you

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Speaker 1: would get another month of practice, a chance to keep

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Speaker 1: momentum well, if not keep it going, at least keep

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Speaker 1: the program from suffocating, and a fan base that would

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Speaker 1: be still not happy, but go well, at least we

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Speaker 1: beat Louisville three years, three times in a row on

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Speaker 1: their home field and made a bowl game a loss.

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Speaker 1: And you get the scenario that we have been dreading

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Speaker 1: since July, which is a five and seven purgatory season

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Speaker 1: with no bowl, no momentum, losses to your rivals, and

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Speaker 1: a fan base that would like to see a change

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Speaker 1: most likely and then won't get it. That is the

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Speaker 1: worst option, and it's an option that I think if

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Speaker 1: they lose to Louisville, is very very likely to happen

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Speaker 1: with an athletic director that I think is very likely

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Speaker 1: to not be the athletic director at the end of

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Speaker 1: the at the end of the school year. And so

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a week where there's a pivot where

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Speaker 1: Kentucky football can go one of two sort of dramatically

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Speaker 1: different directions. I don't think Mark Stoops is going to

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Speaker 1: get fired regardless, but I also wonder if at five

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Speaker 1: that is now reeling. I don't know how you build

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Speaker 1: up a fan base in that offseason. So it's a

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Speaker 1: tough spot, and it comes on the heels of a

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Speaker 1: tough week for UK sports after a very embarrassing loss

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Speaker 1: Saturday to Vanderbilt. So the women's team won beat Louisville

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Speaker 1: since twenty fourteen. Kenny Brooks team, by the way, is

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Speaker 1: really good. Did you watch any of that game, Billy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw him pull away in the second one.

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Speaker 1: Good like we got we block like every shot the

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Speaker 1: women's see, that's what. That's got to be the tallest

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Speaker 1: women's team I've ever seen. And they looked really good today.

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Speaker 1: But besides that, it's kind of a not that happy

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Speaker 1: and uneasy UH Kentucky fan base. So a lot on

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Speaker 1: line next Saturday in UH in the former Papa John Stadium,

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Speaker 1: and I really don't know what's gonna happen. Eight nine

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Speaker 1: you have to say. Uh, We've got to stop letting

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Speaker 1: Ryan pick in the KSR parlay. We have to because uh,

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Speaker 1: Shannon's pick already won. My pick is winning. Western's beating

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Speaker 1: LSU right now, Billy three to nothing, that's right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Ryan's pick is getting annihilated, which was Georgia Tech.

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Speaker 1: Remind he doesn't get to pick.

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Speaker 2: Again, Okay, I'll remind you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to quit giving him a chance because

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Speaker 1: he he's like trying to get every tech question wrong

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Speaker 1: on the act. It's hard. It's as hard as well

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Speaker 1: getting him all right, yet he does it on these

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Speaker 1: picks A five nine, twenty two eighty seven. By the way,

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Speaker 1: before we go to break, I'm sure they're nice people,

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Speaker 1: but those two announcers by the end of the game,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure I'd ever I was ever more ready

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Speaker 1: to stop listening to two people talk than Mark Jones,

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Speaker 1: who I think it's pretty good, and who is the

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Speaker 2: Something they run out of things to say or something.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, they said six seven, one hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty times, and they like, we're trying to use, you know,

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Speaker 1: big vocabulary words and diego Pavey's mom. I mean, that

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Speaker 1: was the most tedious broadcast. And what was weird is

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Speaker 1: the first quarter flew by, so quarters two through four

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Speaker 1: took like four hours and by the end of it,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure those two guys are nice, but I

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Speaker 1: was like, I can't, I cannot listen to the two

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Speaker 1: of you talk anymore. That was a that was a

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Speaker 1: tough watch from as a Kentucky fan. Hef, I'm nine

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Speaker 1: twenty two eighty seven. We will take your calls. Tough

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Speaker 1: night for UK football. This is the Local Toy Dealers

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Speaker 1: KSR postgame show. Welcome back. It is the Local Toy

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Speaker 1: Dealers KSR postgame Show. I would say twenty percent of

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Speaker 1: the comments on the text Machiner about Diego Pavi's mom,

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Speaker 1: which should give you a sense of how often she

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Speaker 1: was on the telecast. I'm trying to think, Billy, I

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Speaker 1: can't think of a parent ever being on that much. Ever,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I no, I mean, I can't. I when

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Speaker 1: I try to think of the parents that have been

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Speaker 1: on broadcast, the most Christian Lightner's mom when she had

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Speaker 1: that neck b which is before your time, but her

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Speaker 1: like with her eyes beadd in, like her neck brace

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Speaker 1: that was on a lot during that run. Donna Smith,

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Speaker 1: I guess you could say during the Saul Smith Era

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Speaker 1: was on a lot, but I don't remember a game

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Speaker 1: ever where I saw they must have gotten a memo

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Speaker 1: out to him in the second half because they didn't

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Speaker 1: do it as much in the second half. But in

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Speaker 1: the first half. I mean, that was more than Taylor Swift,

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Speaker 2: It was egregious.

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Speaker 1: It was agreedious. She really was egregious, like and nothing

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Speaker 1: against that woman. I'm sure she's a lovely person, but

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Speaker 1: that that I don't think I can ever remember that ever.

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Speaker 1: It was like every play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was way too much. And Theovonne was there

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Speaker 2: for senior night as well.

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Speaker 1: I think Theovonne thinks he's on the team. Like, what's

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Speaker 1: crazy about the Vonn is he is my age? You know,

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Speaker 1: so I think I think people just think he's in college.

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Speaker 1: But I mean he you know, he's having fun though,

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Speaker 1: So I guess that's good. One person, rights, Matt. This

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Speaker 1: just shows how bad the teams we beat were. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but no, I don't you know, I don't buy that

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Speaker 1: Auburn almost beat this Vanderbilt team a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: like literally should have beat him. So you know we

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Speaker 1: that was a good win for us. Florida was a

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Speaker 1: good win for us. This was an awful loss. One

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Speaker 1: person rights, Matt Cutter. Bowley is the real deal. Our

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Speaker 1: coaching staff stinks, but he is a real player. I'm

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Speaker 1: surprised he came back in, but it shows what a

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Speaker 1: tough kid he is. I'm excited about having him next year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's the he is. He is Kentucky football

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Speaker 1: going into next season. Like we were saying, what are

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Speaker 1: they gonna sell the fans in the offseason, He's it

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Speaker 1: he is exciting, and uh, kudos to him for coming back.

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Speaker 1: I'm really shocked that he did, and hopefully he gets

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Speaker 1: us a win against Louisville next week.

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Speaker 2: Rough night for Hamden though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it was a rough night, terrible, especially the

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Speaker 1: first half offense really was atrocious. But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: Hampden took a step back. I think that's fair and

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Speaker 1: I think his future, no matter what happens with Mark

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Speaker 1: stoops Bush, Hamden's future probably comes down to Saturday, because

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Speaker 1: if Mark Stoops comes back and we're five and seven,

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Speaker 1: the pressure is gonna be for a move to be made,

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Speaker 1: and he'll probably end up being Bush. Whether that's fair

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Speaker 1: or not, it probably will be unless Cutter Bowley really

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Speaker 1: then he might be back. So we'll see who's at first. Zach, Zach,

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Speaker 1: go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Zach, Hey, guys, and know, I'm just want to know

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Speaker 3: when it come to the n I L and things

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Speaker 3: like with a team like Vanderbilt, when you know, for years,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm thirty one and overlays seeing that Vanderbilt

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Speaker 4: A game that we would win.

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Speaker 5: And we see now that Bandy is paying these you know,

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Speaker 5: getting the quarterbacks coming in and doing that. We got

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Speaker 5: our guy on Twitter doing these things and you know,

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Speaker 5: comes in, gets that opportunity, throws an interception for a

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Speaker 5: way that could be you know, could be swinging for

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Speaker 5: the game.

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Speaker 3: And I'm just realizing.

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Speaker 1: What we mean a gull on Twitter. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what you're talking about. A gull on Twitter? What do

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Speaker 1: you mean?

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Speaker 3: Zacha? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, getting the money and

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Speaker 3: getting things like that gets his opportunity to come after

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, we we failed in the n I

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter down forty five to three to Vandy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you, if you accept my premise a

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Speaker 1: minute ago about the next five years, we'll determine the

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Speaker 1: next twenty five. And maybe people don't. But let's just

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Speaker 1: if you accept that premise. Is this the leadership that

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Speaker 1: you think is that group? Are these the visionaries for

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Speaker 1: the future? You know? I think that's fair in a question, man,

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Speaker 1: what's next? Will will go ahead?

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Speaker 6: Will hey?

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Speaker 11: Matt uh? I think something does go by the wayside?

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Speaker 11: Talk about this Diego pavia Is. When they brought him

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Speaker 11: in last year, they brought with him his tight end

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Speaker 11: you last hours, his head coach Jerry Kill ends up

444
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Speaker 11: in this cordineraor Tim Beck. That helped him out a

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Speaker 11: lot with the true contrdy stuff. If you before the

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Speaker 11: game he was gonna have the amount of rushing guard

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Speaker 11: that he end up having. I always thought we were

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Speaker 11: in a good spot because I didn't imagine him throwing group.

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Speaker 11: I mean four savty six, how many yards?

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Speaker 6: That was a bull? That his hard thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he had some plays. Now, he had some plays

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Speaker 1: that I think there wasn't much we could do about, right,

453
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Speaker 1: I mean, Jajo Hardaway is clearly not as fast as

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Speaker 1: that guy, and Poby put him right on put it

455
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Speaker 1: right on the money. Probably not much you can do

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Speaker 1: about that, but in general, you're exactly right. You wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have thought Pobby's gonna throw for four to sixty three

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Speaker 1: or whatever it was.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, and and the pivoting to looking towards next week.

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Speaker 11: Trying to be as OPPOSITECND. I watched as much as

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Speaker 11: I could could do my toddler of the Louisville game

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Speaker 11: for our game, and as much as he talk about

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Speaker 11: what we did in garbage time. It did seem like

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Speaker 11: I've had at least some fight, and I don't know

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Speaker 11: if I could say the same.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they quit, they completely quit, So you're exactly right,

467
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Speaker 1: like we certainly can win that game Saturday. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: the call like they've quit. First of all, we don't

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Speaker 1: know if Miller Moss is gonna play. It is clear

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Speaker 1: that the dudes behind him are worse, all right, So

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Speaker 1: I think their fans really don't like Miller Moss, but

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Speaker 1: I think they saw today that whatever's behind them is worse.

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Speaker 1: So you might get a Miller Moss that the fan

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Speaker 1: base doesn't like, or a couple guys who don't look

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Speaker 1: good at all. I don't know what the status of

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Speaker 1: their running backs will be they did not play. It

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Speaker 1: looks like they've quit. So we should win that game? Well,

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Speaker 1: I say should. We certainly can win that game. So

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Speaker 1: as bad as this was that team, we're playing Saturdays

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Speaker 1: a lot worse. So we do. I mean, we still

481
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Speaker 1: have a shot of winning that game. We need to

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Speaker 1: do it, actually, because I think if we lose this

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Speaker 1: programs that are real crossroads that I don't really want

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Speaker 1: us to be in. Is Western still beating LSU they are?

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Speaker 1: Do we have any chance of having Ryan's pick come back?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I gotta check the score of that game.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty eight fourteen. Okay, it was twenty eight nothing,

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Speaker 1: so now it's twenty eight fourteen. All right, Well maybe,

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Speaker 1: uh we'll take a break A five nine two aight, oh,

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Speaker 1: twenty two eighty seven. It is the Local Toy Dealers

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Speaker 1: KSR postgame Show. Welcome back. It is the Local Toy

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Speaker 1: Dealers KSR postgame show. So I decided to look billy

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Speaker 1: at the u ks board on the show thread for

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Speaker 1: this show. Okay, so on KSE board that's like the

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Speaker 1: KSR plus uh the message board. And first of all,

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Speaker 1: not a group of of Mark Stops fans. I think

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Speaker 1: it's fair to say, and not necessarily a group of fans,

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Speaker 1: at least of what I've said on the show. So

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Speaker 1: I'm going to answer a couple of these because I

501
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Speaker 1: do think like most of the call most of the

502
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Speaker 1: callers so far haven't been too negative. So I just

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Speaker 1: want to answer a couple of these. One person said so,

504
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Speaker 1: one person rights, Matt thinks he's back no matter what.

505
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Speaker 1: So that's really exciting. That was Jay Wilson. I don't

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just want somebody to tell me where

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Speaker 1: the thirty seven million dollars is gonna come from if

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Speaker 1: we're five and seven. If we were three and nine,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they had a choice. But if we're

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Speaker 1: five and seven, My question for you is who's going

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Speaker 1: to pay that money? Because everybody skips over that piece.

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Speaker 1: We have one booster who, in theory could pay that money,

513
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Speaker 1: and he is very and they are very close to

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Speaker 1: Mark Stoops. I don't know who you all think is

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Speaker 1: gonna pay it. I'm not sure that I think Mark

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Speaker 1: Stoops at five and seven it's a good decision for

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Speaker 1: him to come back. But if he wants to, I

518
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Speaker 1: don't think Kentucky. I don't know where that money's coming from,

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Speaker 1: do you.

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Speaker 2: Billy, No, No, But I mean three wins, five wins,

521
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Speaker 2: it's the same amount of money. I guess it's just

522
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Speaker 2: the sentiment.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think three wins. I think UK would have

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Speaker 1: had no choice. But you know, James w that guy's

525
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Speaker 1: on Twitter. He really, he really doesn't like us, Billy Matt, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's nice. That's what I recognize. Matt shows in the

527
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Speaker 1: first ten minutes of the show. He's clueless about the

528
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Speaker 1: pulse of BBN when it comes to football. Plus, he

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Speaker 1: isn't gonna say Stoop should be fired because Stoops is

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Speaker 1: his boy. The narrative that Stoops and I are somehow

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Speaker 1: friends is always odd to me. I mean, I haven't

532
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Speaker 1: talked to Stoops in a year, well not a year,

533
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Speaker 1: but probably six to eight months, because I mean, I

534
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Speaker 1: don't know what to say to him because like things,

535
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Speaker 1: we've been very critical of him. Vince was my boy,

536
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Speaker 1: but Stoops I like him, but we're not friends. When

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Speaker 1: he leaves, I'll probably never talk to him again. As

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Speaker 1: far as the pulse of BBN, the pulse of BBN,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, you have to balance more than just

540
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Speaker 1: like the folks that are hardcore, like the people that

541
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Speaker 1: post on message boys are on social media. We're hardcore fans,

542
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Speaker 1: all of us. The majority of fans are casuals. The

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Speaker 1: majority of fans, that's the people who pack Commonwealth Stadium

544
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Speaker 1: and they are unhappy about the part about this, but

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Speaker 1: they're not gonna pay thirty seven million dollars to buy

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Speaker 1: them out. And maybe you are, James W but I

547
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Speaker 1: don't know how much you contribute. But where is that

548
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Speaker 1: money you're going to come from In a year where

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to pay twenty two million in rev share,

550
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Speaker 1: you would have to hire a new coach, you would

551
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Speaker 1: have to and I think Adam Luckett said there's like

552
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Speaker 1: eight six to eight million you'd have to pay an

553
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Speaker 1: assistant coach buy out, so that thirty seven is more

554
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Speaker 1: like forty five. Where's it coming from? Like, where's it

555
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Speaker 1: coming from? I don't know. I mean, if you know,

556
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Speaker 1: tell me, but I don't know. So I think the

557
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Speaker 1: fans can be like I want to change, but there's

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Speaker 1: a there's a financial reality that's part of it. And

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Speaker 1: that's the part that I think is harder to come

560
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Speaker 1: up with. Who's up next? Craig and Glam, Craig and Guam,

561
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Speaker 1: how are you and Matt.

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Speaker 12: I think we can come up with that money already

563
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Speaker 12: seven million, if Garrett can get his money up.

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Speaker 1: That's true. A lot of this would be Garrett.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, and I think that I think that it's unfortunate

566
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Speaker 12: that this is the reality of UH Kentucky's position in

567
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Speaker 12: SEC football right now. But we went to a we

568
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Speaker 12: went to a Buffalo wing cookoff, and we took.

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Speaker 7: A veggie trade tonight.

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Speaker 1: You did for Billy.

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Speaker 7: Kentucky.

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Speaker 12: Kentucky went to one.

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Speaker 1: Well, I thought you, I'm sorry, I've lost my trade.

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Speaker 1: Thought yet You're exactly right. Although Billy's veggie trade was

575
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Speaker 1: more successful, and this veggie trade did nothing but kill

576
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Speaker 1: us our momentum. I mean, this is a momentum killer

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Speaker 1: for a program that had gotten a little bit of

578
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Speaker 1: it going. I'm with you, Craig, this is an absolute dud. Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I think I feel like Cutter was just had his

580
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Speaker 12: mind on the NBA tonight.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. I am proud of Cutter for

582
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Speaker 1: coming back. I don't know if that was smart Billy,

583
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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, but you know the color

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Speaker 1: that said those dudes, Cutter was still playing, Willie Rodriguez

585
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Speaker 1: still playing at the end. Those two guys are gonna

586
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Speaker 1: be a big key for the future of Kentucky football,

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Speaker 1: you know. Jared Jeff Pikoro said on the post game

588
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Speaker 1: he thinks Willie could be the best tight end pass

589
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Speaker 1: catching tight end to ever play here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had an aggressive tackle late. It's good to

591
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Speaker 2: see him still playing. I would just go to Cutter

592
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Speaker 2: at this point and ask him if he wants Bush

593
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Speaker 2: Hampton as the offensive coordinator. I would allow him to

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Speaker 2: make the decision.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think. I mean, when I think

596
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Speaker 1: of the best pass catching tight ends here, Jimmy Whalen

597
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: is the one that comes to to mind. Some of

598
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Speaker 1: the old timers probably can give me ones that are

599
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: right there with him. But Willie's good that That's that's

600
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Speaker 1: very high praise from Jeff. Who's next, Dwayne, Dwayne? What's up,

601
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Speaker 1: Team Matt?

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Speaker 13: I got about ten things for you, but I'll keep

603
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Speaker 13: it short and making down to three. First thing, I

604
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Speaker 13: went to the restaurant after the redo, wings Burgers, top notch, phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. I appreciate you.

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Speaker 13: Because before when I went I was like, yeah, these

607
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Speaker 13: are okay, but now they're like top notch tonight's game.

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Speaker 13: I wasn't expecting a whole lot because Vanderbilt was playing

609
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Speaker 13: for a lot more than we was. So it was upsetting,

610
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Speaker 13: but it wasn't that bad.

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Speaker 1: And do you do you really you really weren't that upset?

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Speaker 13: No, Because as I was watching it, I was like,

613
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Speaker 13: as things kept happening, I'm like, yeah, yeah, And I

614
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Speaker 13: mean offensively, we didn't play good at all, and defensively

615
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 13: we got burned a couple of times, and it, I

616
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Speaker 13: mean it just trickled down. And we had then that

617
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Speaker 13: play when uh, when Cutter went out and they brought

618
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Speaker 13: in Calzada and he threw that pass into the end

619
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Speaker 13: zone and that guy was definitely past interference and they

620
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Speaker 13: never called it. I was like, that could have.

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean there were a couple of those calls,

622
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Speaker 1: like I don't think he got that first down early

623
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Speaker 1: in the game and that could have been past interference.

624
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: But they were way better than us there, I mean

625
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: a call here or there is just rearranging deck chairs

626
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: on the Titanic. I mean we were getting we got

627
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Speaker 1: some Absolutely, they could have scored a honestly if they

628
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: really pushed the if they really kept their foot on

629
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Speaker 1: the gas, they could have scored eighty.

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Speaker 13: I mean, I absolutely agree with that. So, I mean

631
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 13: we was out class tonight. But there was a couple

632
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 13: of things that but no, it really wasn't. It didn't

633
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Speaker 13: really bother me the whole game, like because it just didn't.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 13: I don't know why, but I just wasn't bothered.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, well, I appreciate the call. By the way,

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Speaker 1: one more thing on that chas arthread, there's people who say,

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Speaker 1: and I want you to speak to this uh Billy,

639
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: that we don't take anti stoops calls? Do you? How

640
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: do you screen the calls? Tell everybody in case they

641
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Speaker 1: don't know.

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00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: Yes, we have six lines that are open, and I

643
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Speaker 2: take them in order that I get them. So there's

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Speaker 2: no at.

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Speaker 1: The moment he hangs up, hang out for one, we

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Speaker 1: get another call, so we put the people that are on.

647
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Speaker 1: I intentionally tell Billy on every show put who like,

648
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: do I tell you to not take anyone's call? No? No, never,

649
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: I would we So if you are like, I am

650
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: so done with stoops except just call. But like this

651
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: part of the reason why I say that the fan

652
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: base is not what you always what everyone thinks is

653
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: because like on these calls, this is the most like

654
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: whoever calls is on whereas you know sometimes in other

655
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: forms it's self selecting. But I do I did expect

656
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 1: people to be more negative on this, but so far

657
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: you've heard the same calls I have. Who's next?

658
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: And I've been burned in the past. There's no way

659
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 2: I'm taking calls out of order anymore.

660
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: Well you deserve that. Yeah, I go, excuse me, Who's next?

661
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 1: Ja l jail, go ahead, jail?

662
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 14: Thanks man taking my call. I got two things and

663
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 14: I'll get off there. What worried me Man about more

664
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Speaker 14: than anything is I just think if we bring Stoop's back,

665
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 14: we're gonna lose a lot of players. And I heard

666
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 14: you say something earlier about you didn't think if we

667
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 14: got you know, beat pretty good by Louisville or whatever,

668
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 14: that they were still they were still bringing Stokes back.

669
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Speaker 14: But what worried me more about it than anything is

670
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 14: he was talking about Willy row Reeves, who I love,

671
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Speaker 14: and I heard you say something. I heard that you know,

672
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 14: they was bragging on him. Don't you think that some

673
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 14: of these top programs are gonna come after him, and

674
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Speaker 14: I let me say one more.

675
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Speaker 7: Thing then I'll leave you.

676
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 14: About the kid from you? How about the kid from

677
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Speaker 14: New Jersey. I can't think of his name. It was

678
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 14: playing so well because even on the field of.

679
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Speaker 9: That, I don't know who taking Mikyle appreciates you, brother.

680
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Speaker 1: Appreciate the call. Who's he talking about there? Do you

681
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: know kid from New Jersey? I'm not sure now I'm

682
00:38:53,440 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: not sure either. Yeah, you know. Yeah, the first part

683
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: of what he said, the kid from New Jersey threw

684
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Speaker 1: me off. I tried to answer his first one. What

685
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: was it?

686
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure.

687
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm sitting here to going.

688
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 2: Through the after somebody cutter was a cutter?

689
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, I think those kids. I think cutters back

690
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: Willie Rodriguez. I can't say that I know but kids

691
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: from Kentucky. Right. But will he have other opportunities? Yes,

692
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: of course he will, I think. And again, in this

693
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Speaker 1: rev share world where we're gonna have every school is

694
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Speaker 1: gonna have money, including us, I think the dudes part

695
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: of the part of what I hear coaches say. And

696
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if this will be true or not.

697
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: We'll have to let it play out and see. But

698
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: coaches believe that the fact that all these schools are

699
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: gonna have rev share money means they'll be able to

700
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Speaker 1: keep their guys who want to stay and give them raises.

701
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna assume that's probably true. So while I do

702
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: think there'll be other schools that want them, I think

703
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: Willie'll come back now for his senior year. Allah Dane Key.

704
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: Might he go somewhere else, Yeah, I could see that,

705
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: but he's just I believe he's just a sophomore. I

706
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: would expect those guys, because they're from Kentucky, to be back.

707
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Speaker 1: I would assume Kentucky will take guys like Willie Rodriguezn't

708
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: Cutter Bowley and make bringing them back a priority. One

709
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Speaker 1: person on the show thread here this is Sam, says, Matt,

710
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Speaker 1: didn't you say a while back that the money was there,

711
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: uh for a buyout? Yes, when we were under the

712
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Speaker 1: assumption we were going to finish three and nine. I

713
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Speaker 1: mean the amount of people who have, let me give

714
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Speaker 1: you the realities of k athletics. There are only a

715
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Speaker 1: handful of people who give the amount of money to

716
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: football where anyone where that where like they kind of

717
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: make the decisions. That's just the reality. Basketball is a

718
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: little different because there are a lot of people that

719
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: give money and it's more spread out football. In order

720
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Speaker 1: for a change like this to occur, you're gonna have

721
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Speaker 1: to have a handful of people who are behind it.

722
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Speaker 1: And I think there had been an acceptance early in

723
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Speaker 1: the year, especially after that South Carolina and Georgia game,

724
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: that if we finished three and nine, we can't continue this.

725
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: But I think after they won some of these games,

726
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: some of those people who you have to remember, really

727
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: like Mark Stoops, have friendships with him. It's part of

728
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Speaker 1: the reason the reason we have a roster at all

729
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: is a handful of people. There's only a handful of

730
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Speaker 1: people that use that paid the anial that got us

731
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Speaker 1: a roster at all. I think those people, and I

732
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: think Mark Stoops got reinvigorated, and I at that point

733
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: am not sure that money exist Now. Now if we

734
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Speaker 1: lose by thirty to Louisville, then that might be a

735
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: different situation. But yes, things changed from when we it

736
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: looked like we were gonna become three and nine. Just

737
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: remember what it was like then. We were getting destroyed.

738
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: It felt like the teams it was about to quit.

739
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: We had the cows outa thing. It's different now, even

740
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: though today was a huge step back. Who's next, Ed,

741
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: go ahead? Ed, Ed, Yes, sir, yeah, can you hear me? Yes?

742
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: I can.

743
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 15: Okay, Hey, I'm ready for change, and let's get a

744
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 15: go fund. They going with the fans.

745
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 14: We can get we can make change and that's all.

746
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: All right, thank you.

747
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 16: Ed.

748
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Speaker 2: Cameron Miller's from New Jersey.

749
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Speaker 1: That's him. He played a little bit tonight, not a lot,

750
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: but or I think he I think he got played

751
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,959
Speaker 1: a little bit. Well. The announcers, I believe, mentioned him once.

752
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: Did you see the pass in the Harvard Yale game

753
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: that they called a completion? It's online. The ball bounced

754
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: twice twice, it bought. The ball bounced twice and the

755
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: receiver caught it, and they still called it a touchdown,

756
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: called it a completion. Wat's the play? The guy drops

757
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: it and I think it bounces twice and then he

758
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: keeps running and they catch it and call the touchdown.

759
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: And I assume at the Harvard Yale level they don't

760
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: have replay.

761
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, they don't have replay there.

762
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: Well, I mean they certainly have the money for it,

763
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: but I don't know if they if they do it

764
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: for the football games, but I saw it earlier tonight

765
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: on social media, and assuming it was an AI, which

766
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: I don't think it was, it was one of the

767
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: worst football call, maybe the worst football call I've ever

768
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Speaker 1: seen in my life. Who's next, Let's go to Rick, Rick,

769
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Speaker 1: go ahead, Rick, call him that.

770
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Speaker 17: But the only thing I had to say about this

771
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 17: whole football deal I've watched it for years is Mark

772
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 17: Street's facial expression throughout the last two quarters was terrible.

773
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 17: It was he just looked beat down. Yeah, and then

774
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 17: at the end at the conference thing he done afterwards

775
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 17: he said, well, Cutter Boley's got a good future ahead

776
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 17: of him. He didn't say or anything he said Cutter

777
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 17: bowl with a future?

778
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: Was that in the press conference or with Tom?

779
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 17: With Tom? I think I was listening too.

780
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I didn't hear that, But that's interesting.

781
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: I didn't if he said that, that's his interesting wording.

782
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 17: Well, that's what that's he said. Gunner Bully has done great.

783
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 17: He's come on and come back, you know from the

784
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 17: angry thing there, and then he said he's got a

785
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 17: great future ahead of him.

786
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he does. I think that future's here, I'd

787
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: be very surprised. I mean, could he could? Could he?

788
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: I mean, anything can happen. I appreciate the call. Anything

789
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: could happen. I remember two years ago John cal Perry did

790
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: an interview on a Tuesday said arm in arm with

791
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: Mitch and they talked about how they were going to

792
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: rebuild the program, and on Saturday was gone, right. So

793
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: so anything can happen. But I would be I I

794
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: think there's a very very good chance. I believe Drew

795
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: and Ryn and I'll put it this morning at ninety

796
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: percent that Cutter Bowie would be back next year. And

797
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: I think that's true almost regardless of who the coach is,

798
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: because I don't think they would hire a coach without

799
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: seeing what he wanted. So I think you'll I would

800
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: be very surprised, very surprised, Billy if Cutter's not the coach.

801
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think is not backed. I don't think

802
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: Stoops's comments there were pointed to anything. It was just

803
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: him given prise to Cutter.

804
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay a Feb nine, two eight oh twenty two

805
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Speaker 1: eighty seven. Uh, we're gonna I guess we're going a

806
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: little long here, But We're gonna do that, and we

807
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: will take a break and come back for a final segment.

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Speaker 1: This is the Local Toy Dealers KSR Postgame Show Welcome Back.

809
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: It is the Local Toy Dealers KSR Postgame Show A

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Speaker 1: Feb Nine, two eight oh, twenty two eighty seven. Uh,

811
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Speaker 1: the Georgia Tech it is twenty eight fourteen or I'm

812
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: I'm still hoping for Ryan's sake, Georgia Tech can come back.

813
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 2: What was a line do you remember?

814
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: Uh? It was I think two and a half for

815
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. Uh. You asked me a question right before

816
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: we went to break and ask it again there because

817
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a.

818
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 2: Good gan right after we went to break.

819
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, right after we went to break.

820
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Speaker 2: Well, I was just saying that you really do have

821
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 2: to walk a fine line being friends with coaches when

822
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: you have to also be the postgame show host and

823
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: make comments like.

824
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: But I'm not I keep saying this, I'm really not

825
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: friends with I've been friends with two people, Dwayne Peev

826
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: who's gone and Vince Merrill, who's gone. And you know,

827
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Speaker 1: there was a time I had a decently close relationship

828
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: with Cal but then that ended. But yes, I mean

829
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: it's almost impossible. I mean I barely know Mark Pope,

830
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: like we've we've talked a handful of times. But the

831
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: number one thing is to like be true to what

832
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: I think, because you can't do this job otherwise. But

833
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: I also, like, you know, I think Kentucky's in a

834
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: really difficult spot. They have a fan base face that

835
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: has some people. Probably a majority of the fans are

836
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: kind of over Stoops, but a majority of the donors

837
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: like Stoops, so you gotta Usually it's the other way around,

838
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: by the way, usually the donors are the people that

839
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: push coaches out. But here that most of our donors

840
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 1: are donors because Stoops brought them in. I don't think

841
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: Billy people think about that. Yeah, Like the biggest football donors,

842
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: most of them did not donate to UK football before

843
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: Stoops got here. He brought them in. So it's just natural.

844
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: It's gonna be harder for them to flip on it.

845
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 2: But we can't be beholden to the donors.

846
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: Okay, So then where do you get the money if

847
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: you don't get it from the donors when you're already

848
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: having to the school for the UK Athletics used to

849
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: be self funding. We actually used to give money back

850
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: to the school, but now because of NIL we have

851
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: to give twenty two million dollars in rev share For

852
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: the first time since I've been doing this, UK has

853
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: had to take a loan, and UK Athletics, I think,

854
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: took a loan to kind of catch up with all this.

855
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: So when you say I agree with you, we shouldn't

856
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: be beholden to the donors. But if you have to

857
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: pay a thirty seven million dollar buyo, how do you

858
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: do it if you don't get it from the donors?

859
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:35,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure.

860
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: I mean, well, the Hey, you can't just skip over that, right,

861
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: You can't just skip over that, Like you have to

862
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: come up with the money. That's like going I'd like

863
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: to buy a car. Well I don't have the money.

864
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: You can't just skip over that.

865
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you did save yourself a lot of money not

866
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 2: having to pay cows buyout, but that's not you know, money,

867
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: they're available.

868
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: But the money was there for cows buyout if they

869
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: wanted to.

870
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 2: Do it, cause the donors want and Cal gone see.

871
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 1: I mean, like that's the thing Cal had col had

872
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 1: actively made the donors mad. The donors like Mark Stoops

873
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: that makes it hard. I'm not saying that he should

874
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: come back. I think objectively, I feel like I've said

875
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: this a lot. I think objectively it would be better

876
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: for Kentucky football in a lot of ways if there

877
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: was a change of direction. But I also know there

878
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: are a lot of practical problems for making that happen.

879
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: Whereas last year. Last year was a flip, some of

880
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: our fans won it, or two years ago, some of

881
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: our fans wanted to keep cal but the donors were done.

882
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: And this is just the opposite situation.

883
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: Well, the conference pays out money every year, but this

884
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 2: revenue share, Dad's put a wrinkle into things because that's

885
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 2: a lot of money you've got to give back to

886
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 2: athletes that you could be using for buyout instead those two.

887
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: I think if there was not here, if they didn't

888
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: have to pay the twenty two million, then that's a

889
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: different situation. But you know, if you're balancing a budget,

890
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: you all of a sudden got twenty two million dollars

891
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: added to your budget with no like, with no what's

892
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: what's the word I'm looking for? You had no like notice.

893
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: It just happened right like like almost overnight, And I

894
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: just think a lot of schools are having to deal

895
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: with that, and the ones that are having to also

896
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: do that and pay buyouts, they got to have some

897
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: donor to pay for it. I think at LSU, wasn't

898
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: it the case like a couple of guys paid for it.

899
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: LSU is a whole different situation.

900
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 1: But all these schools that got rid of their coaches,

901
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: they had like one or two donors step up and

902
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: pay the buyout. And I just don't know if Kentucky

903
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: has that. Who's next, James, James, Go ahead, James, How.

904
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 18: You doing that?

905
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 17: Man?

906
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:53,959
Speaker 1: I'm good.

907
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 18: You know how we talk about in basketball they play

908
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 18: for the name on a free instead of one on

909
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 18: the back. Yes, I think we need more kids like that,

910
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 18: more kids from Kentucky like Cutter.

911
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. But I mean if we had a team full

912
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: of guys from Kentucky, we'd lose every game by fifty.

913
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: I mean, we got the best kids from Kentucky. The

914
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: best kids from Kentucky can compete with anybody. The problem

915
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: is this state produces like eight of those a year,

916
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: maybe ten, and some of them are gonna go to

917
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: one or two of them will be from the Catholic

918
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: schools in Louisville and they're gonna have dreamed of going

919
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: to Notre Dame or Ohio State and so Kentucky. And

920
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: then you're gonna have a couple of kids from Louisville

921
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: who are gonna want to go to U of L.

922
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: So when it all comes out, like we'll get like

923
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: half of them, which will be like four or five,

924
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: you can't build a roster like that in the SEC.

925
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 18: I can get. I understand that part, but it just

926
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 18: seems like with his recruiting or where we are based at,

927
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 18: it seems like it'd be so easy for him to

928
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 18: get players out, especially where he's from Ohio Youngstown.

929
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: Well he did, but the guy that recruited Ohio, they

930
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: were kind of guy that recruit Ohio went to Louisville.

931
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: But the other part of it is like you have

932
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: to remember the states, sir, we compete against. Do you

933
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: know how many athletes come from Texas, Louisiana, Florida, Alabama, Georgia.

934
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: They produce it. They produce, Yeah, I mean they produce

935
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I bet you in the state of Georgia

936
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: there's one hundred dudes that are as good as the

937
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: top five or six from Kentucky. That's just like, that's

938
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: just the reality of being in the SEC.

939
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 18: I agree, but we at least have to get them

940
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 18: to buy into that idea. I agree with that for sure.

941
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: For they are You're exactly right, appreciate the call. For sure,

942
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: you do you have to do that that I agree with. Uh,

943
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: let's do five more.

944
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 2: Who's Tennessee up twenty eight to zero on Florida right now?

945
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: First half? Yeah, I kind of felt like that was

946
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: gonna be a route but Florida because but you know,

947
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: Florida played Old Miss really close last week, but it

948
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: just felt like Tennessee was gonna pound them. Who's next one?

949
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 2: Joel is up next?

950
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: Joe, We'll do five more? Go ahead, Joel.

951
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 7: Hey, let's let's make sure we're clear on something. The

952
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 7: difference between a five and six Kentucky team and a

953
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 7: three and eight Kentucky team are two horrible SEC teams

954
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 7: who fired their coaches mid season. Are you kidding me?

955
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 7: We just got manhandled and embarrassed by Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt are

956
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 7: we are? Are you serious?

957
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: Yeah? What are you talking about me? Or are you

958
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: talking about uk.

959
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 17: UK?

960
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean.

961
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 7: We just got embarrassed. We did not get it. They're

962
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 7: good teams everything else, but who I don't care no more.

963
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 7: I am, I am, I am fed up. I'm over it.

964
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 7: I don't care if we beat Louisville fifty and go

965
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 7: to some bull crap dunkin Donuts bowl. I'm not watching.

966
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 7: I'm done. I don't care. I understand about the money,

967
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 7: I get.

968
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: That, but I say something respectfully back to you. You

969
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't have. You wouldn't have called this show if you

970
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: didn't care. You care like you you.

971
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 7: Can't No, I care because I want to say good,

972
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 7: just like enough. But I want to think it's not true.

973
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 1: It's not true that it's not true that you don't care.

974
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: You care. You know, nobody stands up and calls. Nobody

975
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: calls a postgame show after we lose forty five to

976
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: seventeen and gives a completely reasonable opinion, but hang on,

977
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: hang On gives a completely your opinions reasonable. But you

978
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: do care. So once we acknowledge that you care, because

979
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: you care, so then the question there's a question here.

980
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: The question then the question becomes how if you were

981
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 1: Mitch Barnhardt, what would you do? No, having the set

982
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: of facts that I've told you and that you seem.

983
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 7: To agree with what would you agree? I totally agree,

984
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 7: then what would you? But how's everybody else doing it?

985
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 7: And I get what you're saying about boosters and everything else.

986
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 7: Maybe the boosters need to step up and say, Okay,

987
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 7: we love Mark. Look, I'll be the first to tell

988
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 7: Mark spoots Spoots, I'll shake his hand. I appreciate some

989
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 7: of the I want.

990
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: To go through this with you, but just take the

991
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: emotion down a notch and just talk this through with me, okay,

992
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: because I think that's a good conversation. All Right, I'm

993
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: putting you in charge. You're Mitch Barnhart. What's what's your

994
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: first name, sir? It's Joel, Joe Joe. You're the A D.

995
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: You believe that there needs to be a change, but

996
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: change MAKEE talk me through how you're gonna do it.

997
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 7: Well, first of all, I don't know.

998
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 1: The answer, right, Okay, fair enough?

999
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 7: Okay, It's like, okay, I don't know the finances. Okay,

1000
00:55:58,520 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 7: so give me an.

1001
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: Idea, give me some ideas. Okay.

1002
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 7: First of all, first of all, let's let's go through

1003
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 7: the past. Okay, let's go through the last few years.

1004
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I can't do anything about the past. I

1005
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: want you go let's go forward, going forward. I think Mitch,

1006
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: if you got him in church and got him to

1007
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: like promise that he wouldn't lie, Mitch would tell you

1008
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: given that contract to Mark was a mistake. But it's

1009
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: but that exists. Okay, So now what do we do?

1010
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 7: We got to figure something out with the money.

1011
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: Okay, So how are we gonna do it? Though? Figure

1012
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 1: not a figure something out? It's not a solution. What

1013
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: are we doing?

1014
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 7: So are we going to are we going to rely

1015
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 7: on because we can't find the money, We don't have

1016
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 7: the money. We don't want to pay somebody out thirty

1017
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 7: forty one million dollars in sixty days that we're going

1018
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 7: to put a product out there with the same coach.

1019
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: But you just haven't given me a solution. And that's

1020
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: my point. It's it's easy to I am not saying.

1021
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm you're probably stronger in your position than

1022
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: I am on it. But I'm not saying you're wrong.

1023
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: But I'm saying to you, just saying, Okay.

1024
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 7: But I'll tell you what, I'm probably one of twenty

1025
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 7: to thirty and forty thousand to probably build this way,

1026
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 7: all right? So what so, where's you're gonna hitch it is?

1027
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 7: It's gonna hit you in a pocketbook next year when

1028
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 7: season tickets come around and I'm nobody.

1029
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: This is why I think it's a catch twenty two.

1030
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: I think it's a catch twenty two. I think you're

1031
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: hitting why When the season started, you may remember, Joe,

1032
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: I said the worst what's the worst thing that could happen?

1033
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: Finish five and seven? That's the worst thing that could happen,

1034
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: because I mean, the conundrum.

1035
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 7: The Saturday, the conundrum Saturday.

1036
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: But what if we win?

1037
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 7: Kentucky fans they don't really care about this game of Saturday. Well,

1038
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 7: fans don't really care about it.

1039
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you maybe know how fans are. May

1040
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call, Joe. I'm trying to have a

1041
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: conversation with you, man, I really am, and I like

1042
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: you gotta go back and forth. I agree with you.

1043
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: Kentucky and Louiell fans don't really care about it. But

1044
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna watch it. But five and seven is the

1045
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: worst for the reasons you just articulated. Because you're right,

1046
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: a lot of fans are not gonna buy into the

1047
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: program next year. But I also don't know if they

1048
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: have the money to buy them out, and so here

1049
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: we are.

1050
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 2: You could have like a car wash the car wash, yeah,

1051
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: or you can a former players if they got any money.

1052
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: Now again, this could all change. If we lose fifty

1053
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: to nothing to Louisville, then there might be a universal agreement.

1054
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you. I feel like I'm I'm just

1055
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: telling you the reality of where it is. I'm not

1056
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: making these decisions, but it's a tough spot because I

1057
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: agree with you, fans are fed up. But then you

1058
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: got to find a way to actually pay for all this.

1059
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: Who's next, Dave, Dave, go ahead.

1060
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 4: Dave, Hey, Matt, let's have a quick comment and a

1061
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 4: question for you. I don't think Mark Stoops is the

1062
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 4: coach to lead us into the new era for real,

1063
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 4: because if we get rid of Bush Hammon and we're

1064
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 4: just renting and repeating, it feels like but I'm more

1065
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 4: furious that Mitch, and I'm surprised more people aren't furious

1066
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 4: at him for doing this contract. I understand the time,

1067
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 4: but does he consult with the donors and things when

1068
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 4: he does these contracts? When he did that contract for

1069
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 4: the major bio. Does he consult with the donors about

1070
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:33,959
Speaker 4: that question?

1071
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: Stuffs you know, I don't know about I don't know

1072
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: if he consults with the donors. Here's here's how I

1073
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: think all these contracts occurred. When they happen. I'm with

1074
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: you these kind specifically the col I understand why he

1075
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: had to do the cow one more than I understand

1076
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: why he had to do this stoops one. Specifically, the

1077
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: sixty days part. The sixty days part is where Kentucky

1078
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: is is screwed. Now, there's always the possibility Mark could

1079
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: waive that and say you can pay me overtime. But

1080
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: the problem is the sixty days part. The problem is

1081
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: that it's doing sixty days and how did Mitch let

1082
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: that happen. Well, the only people that have oversight over

1083
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: those contracts is the board of trustees in Eli Cappeluto,

1084
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: And I think anybody who knows anything about UK athletics

1085
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,959
Speaker 1: will tell you that Eli Cappoloto kind of trust Mitch

1086
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: and agrees to what he says. So I guess in

1087
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: theory the board of trustees would be the people who

1088
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: could stop it. But generally speaking, the board of trustees

1089
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: are people picked by the governor. When that contract happened,

1090
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: it was probably half Bevin half Basher people. They're on

1091
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: it usually because like either they're big donors or else

1092
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: their business people or like so you know what I mean.

1093
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: It's not people who are kind of dialed into the

1094
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: day to day. So the reality is Mitch probably had

1095
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: very little oversight in making that decision.

1096
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I'm just I can't. I can't stand that

1097
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 4: he put us in this position. And I know I

1098
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 4: feel bad for Mark Stoops. I appreciate everything he did,

1099
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 4: but like I said, I just don't think he's the

1100
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 4: coach that can take us to the mid tier consistently

1101
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 4: and the you know, doing the sec like being competitive

1102
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 4: in it. And I hate to say that, but that's

1103
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 4: just how I feel. But I'm not just serio as

1104
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:22,439
Speaker 4: it Mitch.

1105
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. I think the a very reasonable

1106
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: opinion is to be upset at Mitch Barnhart for that

1107
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: contract because the sixty day provision is kind of I

1108
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: don't think any other coach in the country has that provision.

1109
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: How did that happen? Now, there's always a world where

1110
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: Stoops waives that provision and then they probably see if

1111
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,439
Speaker 1: it wasn't for the sixty days. I think the buyo

1112
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: would not be prohibitive. The sixty days part is what

1113
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: makes it prohibitive. Maybe Mark Stoops, if he doesn't want

1114
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: to coach here anymore, says I'll waive that you can

1115
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: pay it to me over time, because if that were

1116
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: the case, they could probably do it. But then he

1117
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: has all the leverage. The reality is Mark Stoops has

1118
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: all the leverage in all this. He has all the leverage.

1119
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: And that's why, you know, four weeks ago it was

1120
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: so difficult to see him gone. Now after tonight we're

1121
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: kind of you see where we are? Three more? Who's next? Walker? Walker?

1122
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: Go ahead? Walker?

1123
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 6: Hey man? First time?

1124
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 16: Long time?

1125
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: Who are what's up?

1126
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 6: Man?

1127
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 16: I live down here in Nashville. I was raised in

1128
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 16: Nicholasville and rough day in Nashville. But yeah, you know,

1129
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 16: you keep talking about, yeah, right, the money's there, we

1130
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 16: just keep choosing.

1131
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 19: The wrong guys, like.

1132
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 16: Other than the obvious thing, don't choose the wrong guys.

1133
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 16: Who's making the final decision on the players.

1134
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: It's a great question, I think for I think in

1135
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: recent years it's been Eddie Graham in the last in

1136
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: the last two or three years, I think kind of

1137
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: final call on roster has gone to Eddie Graham. Before that,

1138
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: I think Eddie had a little bit to do with it.

1139
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: I think Vince had a little bit to do with it.

1140
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: And where there were disagreements, Mark Stoops kind of mediated it,

1141
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: and there were often disagreements. But now I think it's in.

1142
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: It's pretty much Eddie Graham that.

1143
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 16: Decides, Yeah, well it's got to be figured out, man.

1144
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: But go gets appreciate the call, and we just lost

1145
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,919
Speaker 1: our parlay as Haines King throws an interception that's run

1146
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: back for a Touchdow Ryan So Ryan Lemon. I felt

1147
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: good about this one too, though, except that pick, but

1148
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: I still thought he was right. I thought Georgia Tech

1149
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: would win this game. Two more. Who's next step, Steven?

1150
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Steven, Oh.

1151
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 19: Yeah, I just had a question for you more on

1152
01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 19: defensive situation. You know how Stoop's was part of state

1153
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 19: coordinator for a while that he came back, and I

1154
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 19: was just wondering, like tonight with watching the defense, why

1155
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 19: he doesn't run a stunt or like he runs more

1156
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 19: of a nickel defense, and tonight with Paba, he could

1157
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 19: just run a stunt and have this defensive ends or

1158
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 19: run a free safety bullets and then come in. And

1159
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 19: I just want your thoughts on that.

1160
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not the guy to asked that. I'm not

1161
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, I could fake an answer, but I'm really

1162
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: not an excellent guy to be able to answer that.

1163
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: So I appreciate the call. That's probably a that's probably

1164
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: a question for Adam Luckett or Pcoro or something that's

1165
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 1: not my So I'm just not I could fake an answer,

1166
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: but that wouldn't be fair to you. I'll give another

1167
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: one since I w wasn't able to answer that one.

1168
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: So two more. Who's next, James? James? Go ahead, James.

1169
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, So I got a question from Att.

1170
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: Yes, if you it would do you?

1171
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 9: Madd Jones wants here next year?

1172
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: Do I want him? Yes? I think it would be

1173
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: better for I think it would be better for the

1174
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: program for it to be somebody else. Uh okay, so

1175
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: do I think? Well let me just let me let

1176
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: me clarify that, because I'll the difference is like that

1177
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 1: will like get on him. You know, Matt thinks he

1178
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: should be gone. There's I don't do I think he

1179
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: should be fired as of today? My answer would be no,

1180
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 1: because I think firing somebody is a different situation. But

1181
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: do I think in a perfect world it would be

1182
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: better if we started a new regime next year? Yes,

1183
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 1: So that is the that's that's the difficulty for me.

1184
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: I don't think he deserves to be fired, but I

1185
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: also think we need a new coach, and so we're

1186
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: kind of like stuck in my opinion. Now, go ahead

1187
01:05:58,080 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: with the second.

1188
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 9: Point, and you think she'll be here in three years, No, I.

1189
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: Do not know.

1190
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 13: Him.

1191
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 1: I don't think you're wrong. I don't think you're wrong.

1192
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why I want to because I don't

1193
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 1: think he's going to be here in three or four years.

1194
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: That's why I think it would be good to have

1195
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 1: a change now. But do I think Kentucky, with the

1196
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: realities of the economic world, can afford to pay thirty

1197
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 1: seven million dollars today and then go pay another whatever

1198
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 1: it will take to bring a new coach in. Do

1199
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: I think they can do that unless there's something I

1200
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't I don't know where it's coming from.

1201
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 6: Now.

1202
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: If you told me though, if you told me though that,

1203
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: if you if you told me there's a guy out there,

1204
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 1: a booster that we have like some oil guy or

1205
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: tech guy that went to Kentucky that will write a

1206
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 1: check for thirty seven million dollars and sign it and

1207
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 1: walk away. Then I would say then I would say, yeah,

1208
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: we probably to do it.

1209
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,919
Speaker 9: If we lose fifty against Losull Why would they do it? Then?

1210
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: I don't think they will.

1211
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 9: I just it just doesn't make any sense.

1212
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: But I mean again, do you let me ask you

1213
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: a question, sir, do you know who would do it?

1214
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: Do you know who would do it?

1215
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 6: No?

1216
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: I have no.

1217
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 9: Idea exactly, but I would. I would. I would take

1218
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 9: three different coaches the next three years, as long as

1219
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 9: one of them, okay, you can hire.

1220
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: Still would cost us thirty seven million dollars. Though to

1221
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: do that, Who's up next?

1222
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 2: Marcus will end it?

1223
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 1: Marcus?

1224
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 6: Go ahead, Marcus, Hey, buddy, clarify something for me.

1225
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 15: You say that the three wins the administration or Mitch

1226
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 15: I guess what, would have had no no choice but

1227
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 15: to fire March Tups.

1228
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: Yes, that's how I feel.

1229
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 15: Yeah, does two wins really make that much of a

1230
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 15: financial difference where probably twenty thousand more people?

1231
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I think you're looking at it

1232
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: for ye, I don't think I think you're looking at

1233
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: it the wrong way. First of all, I think the

1234
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: amount of people I do think there will be fewer

1235
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 1: people by season tickets next year if they finish five

1236
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: and seven. I don't think that number will be as

1237
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 1: dramatic as you think it will. It won't be twenty

1238
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 1: thousand fewer people. I mean, the reality is that the

1239
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: vast majority of people that buy season tickets will do

1240
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: it anyway. There will, in my opinion, be some, but

1241
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 1: I think it'll be a small amount. I mean, I'm

1242
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: not sure what was the difference in like, what was

1243
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: the difference in season ticket sales last year to this year.

1244
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 15: I want to say I could it was like ten

1245
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 15: thousand or so or something.

1246
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: I don't think that's true. I mean, I don't think it.

1247
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: I thought it was like twelve hundred. Maybe it was

1248
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: ten thousand. If it was, I'll stay in corrected. But

1249
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: I actually think it was it was down, but I

1250
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: don't think it was a massive number.

1251
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 15: Well, let me ask you this. If you say, if

1252
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 15: if it was three, he would have had Mitch would

1253
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 15: have had no choice.

1254
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: I think you have to think about how that would

1255
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: have been. Say that again, what if the donor said, what.

1256
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 15: Now, what if the donors weren't backing that had he

1257
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 15: won three, would the school have still made the change?

1258
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: What if the donors weren't backing.

1259
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 15: What what if the donors were not paying that buy out?

1260
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: I think then though they So this is just my

1261
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 1: take on it. You have to remember, think about these

1262
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 1: weeks when we beat Auburn, Florida and Tennessee Tech. Right,

1263
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: think about what those weeks were like. Now, imagine what

1264
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: it would have been like if we had lost those games.

1265
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: Then I think your guess that ten thousand people might

1266
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: not renew Susan tickets would have become a lot more

1267
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 1: of a thing. There would have been nobody at the

1268
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: Florida game, nobody at the Tennessee Tech game. They would

1269
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 1: have been booed off the field, you know, those kind

1270
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: of things. Like then it's a different situation, you know.

1271
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 1: I think you go back to Joker Phillips. The reason

1272
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: I think Joker ultimately got fired was the scene at

1273
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 1: that UK Vandy game. Were you there? You may, I

1274
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: mean you may have been, no, but there was no

1275
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:18,679
Speaker 1: one there. By the end. It was empty. People were booing,

1276
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: and I think Mitch Barnhardt had a moment where he

1277
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: was like, I just can't do this. I thought if

1278
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: we lost to Auburn and Florida, that would be the

1279
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: Tennessee Tech game. I thought the Tennessee Tech Game would

1280
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: be that moment. It didn't happen. Because it didn't happen.

1281
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: The UK athletic department is so insular they don't really

1282
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: hear from the public. Mitch Barnhardt has said he doesn't

1283
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: read social media, he doesn't read the media. He only

1284
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 1: reads emails. Who emails you know what I mean. So

1285
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 1: I think they needed probably this public moment of fan

1286
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: revolt that ultimately, Sir, I don't think happened. So that

1287
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: to me is the difference between three and eight and

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Speaker 1: five and six. Fair enough, man appreciate the call. That's

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Speaker 1: just my take on it. But I remember going back

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Speaker 1: because I was just starting. I remember going back before

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Speaker 1: that Vandy game and I had someone tell me when

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Speaker 1: Joker Phillips was the coach before that Vandy game. I

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Speaker 1: think Mitch is gonna bring him back. And I believe

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Speaker 1: that year we were like two and ten or something

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Speaker 1: like that, two and nine. I think we only played

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Speaker 1: eleven games in and then that and day happened and

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Speaker 1: it flipped. I don't think that day happened this year.

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Speaker 1: Today was a bad day and we'll have to see

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Speaker 1: what happens with Louisville. So that's my take on it.

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Speaker 1: I think this situation you're hearing is a little bit

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Speaker 1: of why next week is such a big deal. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: folks very much for staying up. Billy, you've been here

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Speaker 1: all day. Go hang out with your fiance and we

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Speaker 1: will see you all later. This has been the Local

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Speaker 1: Toy Dealers KSR post game.

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Speaker 6: Ye