1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: What two three brights down in the middle of the feeling. 2 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Hello's topball down in the one yard line? How about that? 3 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: That is the ultimate kabash and we are underway. Hello everyone, 4 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: welcome back to another episode of the Action Network NFL podcast. 5 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm Matthew Friedman, the editor in chief of Fantasy Labs. 6 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: We survived the first wave of free agency. In here 7 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: with me to break down all of the NFL transactions 8 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: from last week is Ian Hart. It's the director of 9 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: the Fantasy Labs NFL platform and an Action Network analyst. 10 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: You can follow him in the Action Network app at 11 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: Iheartitz also used the app to get real time odds 12 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: and track your bets for free. Ian, how's it going. 13 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: Good man, I'm ready to talk about something that actually matters. 14 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: Get away from these brackets for a second. 15 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, if people can notice, Ian is on his phone, 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: and that is because Ian, you are traveling right like 17 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: right now, you are in Las Vegas. 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: I am in Las Vegas. It's going to be a 19 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: nice little week here in the warm weather. Seventy nine 20 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: degrees out here. Quite the upgrade from Columbus, Ohio. 21 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, are you? Are you going to the Action Network party? 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: At the Palms. 23 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: I will be at the Action Hour party at the Palms. 24 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: I think anyone who is Anyone's going to be there, 25 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 2: so yes. 26 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: And the good thing is that if you are in Vegas, 27 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: you the listener, not you Ian. If you are there, 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: it is on Wednesday, it's totally free, one free. 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That is go 38 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: dot Actionnetwork dot com Slash Madness Dash Party and RSVP there. Ian, 39 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: Let's jump into the show. And I should say I'm 40 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: a little bit jealous that you are going to go 41 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: to the party and have so much fun there, But whatever, 42 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: I sold your on in the cold of Iowa. That's 43 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: just that's what I do. Okay, let's get into the show. 44 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: First trade, we should talk about first transaction, the Odell 45 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: Beckham trade, going from New York to the Cleveland Browns, 46 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: making them immediately one of the most interesting team in 47 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: the league, as if they weren't already really interesting. But 48 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: Ian give us some breakdown on this. 49 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: I actually found the only guy in America that thinks 50 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 2: the Giants won this trade in Airport Bar last night. 51 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: According to him, according to m obj is a diva 52 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: locker room distraction with the time my opinion, he's the 53 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: NFL's best wide receiver and somehow just got traded for 54 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: next to nothing. I mean, good you got you got 55 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: a first and third round pick. I mean I'm not 56 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: I'm not exactly the biggest Jabriel Peppers fan in the world, 57 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 2: but I mean he's I guess can be a good 58 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: replacement for land and Collins. But I just don't think 59 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: there's a single world where you can say, at the 60 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: Giants won this trade or even really came close. And 61 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: now we got Baker Mayfield with I don't know, maybe 62 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 2: one of the better top three receiver sets in the 63 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: AFC in terms of Obj Landry, I guess Dave Nijoku 64 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: as well. So I don't have enough good things to 65 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: say about this. I know you've done some looks at 66 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: Obij's props right now, but I think Steiling is the roof. 67 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it would be really hard to say 68 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: that Odell Beckham isn't moving into a better situation and 69 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: that the Browns don't get better with this trade. You know, 70 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: the Giants are rebuilding, so I guess from that perspective, 71 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: I kind of get it, but it's just it's a 72 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: tough situation for them all the way around. I really 73 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: like what this does for Beckham and that he has 74 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: an ascending quarterback. I think, you know, Mayfield last year 75 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: was better than than Eli Manning has been over the 76 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: last two years. I think Manning will continue to decline. 77 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Mayfield is just going to get better. 78 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: So it's a It's a great situation for him and 79 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: I think for OBJ I think we should expect for 80 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: Beckham to see something similar to what we've seen out 81 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: of him over the past, you know, five years, basically 82 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: what he's averaged in his career. I think that's pretty 83 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: close to what he's going to average. With Mayfield. I 84 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: think the big question though, is whether he's going to 85 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: see fewer targets, and I think that's probable given that 86 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: he does have a target hog across the field for 87 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: him and Jarvis Landry. But I think this is really 88 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: good things for Mayfield. And then if you look at 89 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: the Giants offense, I don't think anyone there is really 90 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: helped all that much except for Evan Ingram. I think 91 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: we will probably see Stirling Shepherd get pretty close to 92 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: the year you said he's seen in the past when 93 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: OBJ is out, but it's not as if that's really 94 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: done all that much for him as a fantasy asset. 95 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: But Evan Ingram has seen a huge boost in production 96 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: when OBJ has been out, so I think it's it's 97 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: very good for him. But yeah, that's what I'm thinking here. 98 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: Any final thoughts on OBJ. 99 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the Evan Ingram call, and he's definitely 100 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: had superior splits with OBJ out. The problem is the 101 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: Giants offense as the whole has just been so much 102 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: worse without OBJ, which makes sense. You take away your 103 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 2: team's you know, best playmaker with all due respect to Saquon, 104 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: and yeah, the whole team gets worse. They average four 105 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: fearer points per game in twenty games without Beckham since 106 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen. I mean, Eli's splits with without Beckham are 107 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: just brutal. I mean, and honestly, Eli put together statistically 108 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: his best season last year that he's had in the 109 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: last three or four years, but even that wasn't really 110 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 2: close to what Mayfield was able to put up. So 111 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: it's a one of those situations where, I mean, Saquan 112 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: is going to have the volume, but other than that, 113 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: I think I'm I'm laying towards just trying to stay 114 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 2: away from this offense as much as possible because it's 115 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: definitely got the look of a train wreck right now. 116 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, to put some perspective on Baker Mayfield, like, I 117 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: think there's a he's not gonna win MVP, but I 118 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: think he has like a shot of doing it. Eli 119 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: manning with Odell Beckham junior, like before he declined. So 120 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: in his like twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen seasons, he 121 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: had close to forty three hundred yards thirty touchdowns in 122 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: about fifteen interceptions per year with Beckham. So I think 123 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: Mayfield just kind of inherently on his own, could do 124 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: better than that. And then you add the fact that 125 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: this offense is getting offensive coordinator Todd Mounkin, who with 126 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers last year had the offense that was number 127 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: one in passing yards, number three in passing touchdowns, and 128 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: it was highly aggressive in throwing the ball down the field, 129 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: which I think is an area where both Beckham and 130 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: Mayfield have success. And then if they are able to 131 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: get their timing down, I think like their success together 132 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: could just be very synergistic. So I'm really excited specifically 133 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: about what this means for Mayfield. I think Beckham is 134 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: more or less the same as long as he has 135 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: a fairly competent quarterback. But I think this is great 136 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: for Mayfield. 137 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. That's a good point of Monkin. And yeah, 138 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: Baker naugets a throw to anyone's idea of a top 139 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: five wide receiver. I mean, last year we saw these 140 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: deep balls going to Shard Higgins and Brashad freak compariment, 141 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: and Baker kind of made it work. So now he's 142 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: finally getting a talent around him to really thrive. And 143 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: I don't hate that MVP call Matt. I mean, we'll 144 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: see what the odds come out at. But if he's 145 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: not a top five candidate. I'll definitely lay down some 146 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: bones on that. 147 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to the next guy. The number one 148 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: free agent in the class by almost anyone's definition or 149 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: kind of metric of looking at guys was Le'Veon Bell 150 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: after sitting out the twenty eighteen season and at this 151 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: point what seems to be a horribly misguided decision, at 152 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: least from a financial perspective, but he is signed with 153 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: the Jets. What should we take away from this? 154 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: The great news for us fantasy players the world is 155 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: that we got another workhorse, three down RB back in play. 156 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: I mean, and look, I've seen a bunch of Leveon 157 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: Bell stats and breakdowns him versus James Connor pretty similar 158 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: as rushers. I'm not denying that Leon's maybe running ability 159 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: isn't top three in the league or anything. I always 160 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: thought the part that separated him as a playmaker was 161 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: his ability as a receiver. I mean, he lines up 162 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 2: as a wide receiver and the slot really just looks 163 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 2: as pure as any other of these guys. And I 164 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: mean his original, I guess case for one of the 165 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: bigger contract was that his production was out of an 166 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: RB one and as a wide receiver too, So I 167 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: mean it backs up on the film and he joins 168 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 2: Larry Center, Marshall Fock, and Roger Craig as the only 169 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: running backs ever with at least three seasons with seventy 170 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: five or more catches. So I'm sure we'll see some 171 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 2: guys like McCaffrey break into that. But still, Leveon Bell 172 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: was truly ahead of his time in terms of just 173 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 2: revolutionizing the running back position getting all those targets. You 174 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,599 Speaker 2: can't ask for a better fantasy spot for him to 175 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: go to the Jets because they were missing a running 176 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 2: back and behind Robbie Anderson, I like Chris herndon the 177 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: tight end, but they were really missing a number two 178 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: receiver as well. And we'll see what Jameson Crowder can 179 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 2: bring them the slot. But I think in terms of workload, 180 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: he couldn't have asked to go to a better team. 181 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: And I don't know. 182 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: I like these Jets to make a little bit of 183 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: a comeback this year. I think Darnold played a lot 184 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 2: better as the season went on. I mean, he was 185 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: the youngest I believe quarterback since Mike Vick to even 186 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: start as a rookie, so we shouldn't have expected the 187 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: most absurd first season anyway. 188 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 3: And I mean, maybe I'm a little. 189 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 2: Over optimistic on a guy that just sat out a 190 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: year and you know, reportedly ballooned up to Round two 191 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: fifty or so, but I have real high expectations for 192 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: Bell to step back in as a top five running back. 193 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. I have some thoughts on this, and they align 194 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: with what you said. I think he's going to be 195 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: very undervalued this year in redraft leagues, specifically by the 196 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: people who've drafted him last year and who just don't 197 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: even like they're two burn you know. So I think 198 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: there's already going to be like a tenth to a 199 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: twelfth of the market that is just too low on 200 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: him because of what happened last year. And then I 201 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: think they're going to be people who think that because 202 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: he's going to a situation that is clearly a step down. 203 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: I think, just in terms of what you expect from 204 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: the twenty and nineteen Jets offensively versus the twenty and 205 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: thirteen to twenty and seventeen Steelers, obviously the Jets are 206 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: not going to be as prolific in scoring points because 207 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: of that difference. I think there are people who will 208 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: downgrade Bell, But what is important is that he's going 209 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: to get a lot of touches. I think, almost as 210 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: many touches as he was given previously. The thing that 211 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: does give me a little bit of pause is Adam 212 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: Gase as the offensive play caller. The Dolphins under his 213 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: oversight did play slower, not just slower than the Steelers, 214 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: but just kind of slower in general. But I still 215 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: think Bell is going to be the guy who's seen 216 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: a lot of touches, and there aren't, as you said, 217 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: that many guys who really get that type of usage. 218 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: So I mean, I think it's fair for him probably 219 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: to get around twenty touches per game. He's probably still 220 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: going to be utilized heavily in the passing game, especially 221 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: because as he said, they don't have a lot of 222 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: other options there, at least options that are firmly established. 223 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, I like what he's able to do. And 224 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: I think the time off isn't going to be as 225 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: big of a factor as people think. So there could 226 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: be a couple of ways in which you would go. 227 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: You would either say, Okay, he's spent a year away 228 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: from the game not getting hit, not you accumulating hundreds 229 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: of touches, so he might be fresher. That's like one 230 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: way someone could look at it, or they could say, like, yeah, 231 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: he's out of shape. I think people are going to 232 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: skew to the out of shape side on this, and 233 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: that could be another thing that makes people devalue him 234 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: in drafts. But if you look historically, and it's not 235 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: as if we have a huge sample of guys who 236 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: have sat out for a year for non injury reasons, 237 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: but the guys who have done it have been guys 238 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: of a high caliber. So John Reagan did it in 239 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty when he was in a contract holdout with 240 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins. He basically made the Hall of Fame 241 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: because of everything he did after that season. And he 242 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: was old, by the way, like he was thirty when 243 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: he held out. We saw Adrian Peterson miss fifteen games 244 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: of the twenty fourteen season because of suspension. The next 245 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: year he came back, he was thirty years old, and 246 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: he led the league and carries rushing yards and rushing touchdowns. 247 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: We saw Marshaun Lynch retire, you know, quote unquote retire 248 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, come back in twenty seventeen, and he 249 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: had I wouldn't say it was a great season, but 250 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: he had over one thousand yards from scrimmage seven touchdowns, 251 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: and he looked actually much better in the second half 252 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: of that season. He had over ninety scrimmage yards per 253 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: game in the second half, like maybe he was kind 254 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: of working his way back into shape. And he was 255 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: a thirty one year old when that happened. We also 256 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: saw Ricky Williams sit out two seasons, one for retirement, 257 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: one for suspension. When he returned, he played into his 258 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: thirties and he was still a pretty good player. And 259 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: then I mean, this is a slightly different situation. Bo 260 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: Jackson sat out as a rookie because he didn't want 261 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: to play for the Buccaneers. He just went and played baseball, 262 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: and then the Raiders drafted him the next year. So 263 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: there are guys like every time we've seen a guy 264 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: of a high caliber sit out a season for something 265 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: other than injury, when he's returned, he's actually been pretty productive. 266 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: So like, I'm really not all that worried about conditioning 267 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: for bell or anything like that. He's still twenty seven, 268 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: you know, he's I would say, like in his running 269 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: back prime. I think he has another season or two 270 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: of good usage where we should expect him to be 271 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: pretty productive. So that's where I'm at on Le'Veon Bell, 272 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: but obviously this opens up more holes, I would say, 273 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: not holes, but opportunities for the running backs who are 274 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: left with the Pittsburgh Steelers. What are your thoughts on 275 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: those guys. 276 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure what to think here, because we've 277 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: seen both James Connor and Jalen Samuel. Samuel's perform at 278 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: a high level in this offense without Bell. I mean, 279 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: you know, Pittsburgh gonna make the playoffs last year, but 280 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 2: I don't think that was. 281 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 3: Really because Belle wasn't there per se. 282 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: I mean, they were still getting plenty of production out 283 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 2: of there's running backs, and they do need some more 284 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: obviously pass catchers, which I think Samuels has the edge 285 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: over Connor with that base. You know, we've seen that 286 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: going back to college production as well. But at the 287 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: same time, every single time one of these Steelers running 288 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: backs has missed time, we see the next guy up 289 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: going immediately and Harry, you know, eighty percent snaps and 290 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: a three down workload. So I'm not saying it's not 291 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 2: in their best interest to do some sort of a 292 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: committee with James Connor and Jalen Samuels, But right now 293 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: I'm leaning towards James Connor kind of being that three 294 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: down guy again. Maybe not playing ninety percent of snaps 295 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: like he was for stretches, but I don't think it's 296 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: crazy to think we could see Connor, you know, seventy 297 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: percent snap club and you know, really getting around maybe 298 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: not twenty touches per game, but at least fifteen are selling. 299 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: You know, that was RBRON production from last year. So 300 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: I'm still all about investing in this backfield even without 301 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: Bell Nab. 302 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want both of these guys. I think they 303 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: will start to skew a little more towards giving both 304 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: of them touches, and I think that would come at 305 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: the expense of the wide receivers. You know, you lost 306 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, You lost one hundred and sixty to one 307 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty targets over the last you know, five 308 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: to six years. I think what's going to happen is 309 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: they instead of passing and just redistributing all of those 310 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: targets to other guys, I think They're going to lean 311 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: a little bit more on their running backs and then 312 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: also give some of those targets to Samuel's so I 313 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: could see more two back sets with both of them 314 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: on the field, and I could just see them running 315 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: a little bit more. So, even if James Connor doesn't 316 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: get let's say, like eighty or ninety percent of the 317 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: work the way that Leveon Bell did a few years ago, 318 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: you could still have James Connor with a strong running 319 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: back one type of season. And you could also see 320 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: Samuels as a guy who gets his production as a 321 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: change of pace back or someone who actually kind of 322 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: plays sometimes as a slot receiver because he does have 323 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: that versatility to play as a fullback and then to 324 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: move out and play as a receiver if they need 325 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: him to. So I want both of those guys. 326 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: And also if God forbids something happens to either of them, 327 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: then we have just a surefire lock and load RB 328 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: one again. 329 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, talk about Deshaun Jackson. Wasn't a free agent, but 330 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: was traded and there was always some speculation as to 331 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: whether he would finish his contract in Tampa Bay. He 332 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: has been traded back home to the Philadelphia Eagles, the 333 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: team that drafted him in the second round over a 334 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: decade ago Ian, What are your thoughts on this trade. 335 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: I think this was a huge, huge trade and really 336 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: positions the Eagles to be the favorites of the NFC East. 337 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: I think they easily have the best and most explosive 338 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: pass offense. Now, look at when the Eagles have been 339 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 2: great over his last two years, obviously one Super Bowl 340 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, and a big part of their offense. These 341 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: guys weren't consistently getting fed the ball, but they always 342 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: had one of Tory Smith or mac Collins on the field. 343 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 2: They'd have Alshon, Jeffery on the other side, Nelson ag 344 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 2: Lor and the slot Zach Ertz a tight end ag Lord, 345 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: can you know he can stretch the field a little bit, 346 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 2: but we have seen him be better in the slot 347 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: throughout his career when he can work his quickness a 348 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 2: little bit better. He struggled on the outside and Ertz 349 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: and Jeffrey obviously aren't really known as field stretchers, and 350 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 2: just having that deep threat forced defense to stay. Honestly, 351 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 2: opened up that middle area of the field for both 352 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 2: Ertz and Jeffrey, and they didn't have that last year. 353 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 3: They tried to have it. 354 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 2: They have Mike Wallace and mac Hollins again to start 355 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 2: the year, but both those guys were on ir By 356 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 2: I think it was Week three, so they really had 357 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 2: to play the entire entire season with Jordan Matthews as 358 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: their de facto field stretcher. Carson Wentz made it work 359 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: for a little bit. I mean, it wasn't they weren't atrocious, 360 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 2: but now they're pretty much substituting Jordan Matthews with the 361 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: league's reigning leader in yards per reception. I mean DJ 362 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 2: actually averaging eighteen point nine yards per catch last year, 363 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 2: and he has also literally increased the yards per tenth 364 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: of every single QB's ever played with compared to what 365 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: they were producing previously. 366 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 3: So again, they were. 367 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 2: One of the best offenses in the league when they 368 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 2: had Tory Smith and mack Hollins serving as a field stretcher, 369 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 2: and now they pretty much got the absolute richest man 370 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 2: version of either of those guys they could imagine. 371 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 3: So I'm really excited what they're going to do there. 372 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 2: And then also adding in that this this will help 373 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 2: Dallas Goddard I think uptensively get in the field more. 374 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: I think we'll see more al Shon, Jeffrey, Deshaun Jackson, Dallas, 375 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 2: Carter zach Ertz two by two sets, and there are 376 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: weapons all over the place on this Eagles offense. If 377 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 2: they can figure out their backfield, I think a little 378 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 2: more look out. 379 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think it's a great move, not 380 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: even so much for Jackson, although I think this does 381 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: benefit him in that he never really had a strong 382 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: connection with Jamis Winston, but a great move for the 383 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: Eagles and everyone else in that offense. And as you've 384 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: mentioned this, this is something that in the past when 385 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: he's been on the field. It's not just that his 386 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: quarterbacks have displayed a strong outside of Winston a strong 387 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: connection with him, although most of them have. It's also 388 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: that it opens up everything else for the rest of 389 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: the people on the offense. So his quarterbacks have done 390 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: better when he's just on the field, able to distract 391 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: the defense and make them have to account for him deep. 392 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: So I think this improves obviously, Carson Wentz. I think 393 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: it improves the prospects for literally all of the other 394 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: players on that offense. But I think it is good 395 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: for Jackson too, and that I mean, he just wasn't 396 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: able for whatever reason, to connect with Jamis Winston. But 397 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: I think he will be able to connect better under 398 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson's offense, So I still wouldn't like project him 399 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: for like a thousand yards receiving or something like that. 400 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: I think he will do more or less. Probably let 401 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: me phrase that he will do more than what he's 402 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: done the last couple of years in Tampa Bay. But 403 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going really to approach a 404 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: thoutd arts, but I'd say like eight hundred to nine 405 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: hundred is probably fair for Tampa Bay. This is pretty exciting, 406 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: I think in that it opens up Chris Godwin a 407 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: lot who previously was splitting snaps with Deshaun Jackson, and 408 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: then there are many snaps now to go around, in 409 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: part because also Adam Humphries is gone, so Godwin. I mean, 410 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: I think this is a situation where I don't want 411 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: to say like he's a top twenty receiver in redraft leagues, 412 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: but like wherever he is going, he provides value, So 413 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: like he's someone I'm really targeting for redraft What about you? 414 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred percent. 415 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to figure out exactly how this Tampa 416 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 2: Bay offense is going to look because I have very 417 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: high expectations for how they to perform with braz Arians 418 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 2: there and his you know, downfield attack. We saw it 419 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 2: in Arizona. He really made stars out of John Brown, 420 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 2: He got the most out of Michael Floyd. Obviously almost 421 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: brought Larry Faicchild back from the dead by moving him 422 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: to slot and really allowing him to flourish there. And 423 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 2: now we're looking at it, like you said, Humphreys has gone, 424 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: we have Oj. 425 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: Howard and Cambray. 426 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 2: Arians didn't really get a tight end super involved during 427 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 2: his time in Arizona, But I also don't think he 428 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: had a tight end with the type of talent as 429 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 2: Oj Howard, So keeping that in mind a little bit, 430 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: but are starting through wide receiver sets right now, are 431 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: looking like Mike Evans, Chris Goblin, and I think for 432 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 2: Shad Perryman, who they signed, that's kind of like the 433 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 2: fact that a field stretcher. But with that in mind, 434 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: I think we could see Chris Goblin in that starting 435 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: slot role and it'd be very just match up friendly 436 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: for him because we've seen the Marshawn Lattimore's of the 437 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 2: world and all these number one corners typically travel with 438 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 2: Mike Evans on the outside so even if Evans is still, 439 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 2: you know, the leader in targets on that team, I 440 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: don't think there's any reason why both Evans and Goblin 441 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 2: can't go over triple digital targets, and Goblin could be 442 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: that guy that has the better matchup every single week 443 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 2: if the number one cornerbacks continue to stay on the 444 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 2: outside with Evans, because we've seen him produce, and whenever 445 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: Djacks has been out, I mean six games without him, 446 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 2: Goblin was able to get at least ninety eight yards 447 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: and four of those games you know has scored. I 448 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: believe it was four touchdowns in those six games. So 449 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of production. We've seen it. It's just 450 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 2: been a matter of opportunity, and now he's going to 451 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 2: have all the opportunity you can handle ideally. So I'm 452 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: just really curious about if arians is gonna make him 453 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: kind of a younger and more explosive Larry Fitzgerald, or 454 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: if we'll see him more on the outside and perhaps 455 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 2: more OJ or someone to be named in the slot. 456 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good question about where he's going to play. 457 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: For me, I'm I'm just gonna it's not if I'm 458 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: gonna ignore it. But I'm pretty much going to ignore 459 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: it because I think wherever he plays, he's gonna get 460 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: the targets, whether it's inside or outside. If he's inside, 461 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: that is definitely interesting because a lot of teams kind 462 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: of try to hide their weakest cornerback in the slot, 463 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: and I think Godwin will destroy whoever he's going against 464 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: if he's in the slot, if he's outside. I think 465 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: what that means is that we might see more two 466 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: tight end sets, even though that is like totally something 467 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: that Arians never did. I think we could see Oj 468 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: Howard we're basically playing as a slot receiver with Cameron 469 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: Brad playing as the kind of blocking inline tight end. 470 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: One guy maybe to keep an eye on. You mentioned 471 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: Rashad Perryman. Another guy who's interesting is Justin Watson, who 472 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: was an incredibly productive player in college at Pennsylvania. Drafted 473 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: in the seventh round because he was a small school guy, 474 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: but he's big and he's athletic. We know that Bruce 475 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: Arians really privileges speed, and Watson is a guy who 476 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: does have a lot of speed for his size. So 477 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: he's someone I know they signed Perryman, but I think 478 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: Watson is better than Perryman, I would give Watson a nod. 479 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,239 Speaker 1: So if this is an offense that we're interested in 480 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: and we think there's the potential maybe for three receivers 481 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: actually to be viable, Watson is someone to keep in mind. 482 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a good point. I agree with you. 483 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: Wherever Goblin ends up lining up, I think he's going 484 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: to be the number two pass game target. He'll be 485 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 2: getting plenty of targets regardless. But yeah, it's gonna be 486 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 2: interesting keep an eye on who emerges as their kind 487 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: of go to field stretcher, because we saw how quickly 488 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 2: Smoke Smoky Brown with Arizona was able to kind of 489 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 2: bust some big plays and Bruce Arians you know, no 490 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: risk and no biscuit offense. And if it is Perriman, 491 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: if it is Watson, I'm not saying those guys will 492 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 2: have kind of week to week consistency in season one, 493 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 2: but those could be the guys, you know, with a 494 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: sub four K salary on DraftKings that we attack because 495 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 2: of that high ceiling. 496 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we we didn't really even mention Mike Evans yet. 497 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if the trade really opens up much 498 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: for him. He's already I think, you know a top 499 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: end guy who could challenge for fifteen hundred yards, you know, 500 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: which is what he got last year. So I think 501 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: it's just kind of more of the same for him. 502 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with there. 503 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: I mean, he's we should expect maybe a little drop off, 504 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 2: and I'm not sure if we should expect to drop 505 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 2: off in the offense. I mean, we seeing DeShawn Jackson 506 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: to elevate, you know, for all the reasons we talked 507 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: about Philly improving just having that type of speed on 508 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: the field, if they're not able to replicate that, I 509 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 2: could see that being a problem for someone like Evans 510 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 2: who doesn't necessarily have the wheels to get loose on 511 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 2: his own all the time. But at the end of 512 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 2: the day, we've seen Winston and him have the type 513 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: of chemistry, and he's so dang big anyway, it's hard 514 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: to keep him away from the ball. So I'm pretty 515 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: confident Evans and Goblin I gonna be able to figure 516 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 2: it out regardless of how the rest of it plays out. 517 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: All Right, this is kind of a tangential question, but 518 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: is Mike Evans a Hall of Famer? 519 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 2: Yes, he's one of four receivers. I believe of forty 520 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: touchdowns since twenty fifteen does not get their respect. 521 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 3: And yeah, like you said, at fifteen. 522 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 2: Hundred yards last year, he had a slightly down. It 523 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 2: seems like twenty seventeen just from his standards. But what 524 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 2: the guy's been in the league. I think five years 525 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: he's I mean, he's also on that short list of 526 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: amount of one thousand yard seasons and your first five 527 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: years and everything he's done at this point screams Hall 528 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 2: of Fame receiver. And I think with his size, at 529 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: the very least, he can keep being a red zone 530 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 2: threat for years to come. If Brandon Marshall could score 531 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 2: fourteen touchdowns when he was like thirty with the Jets, 532 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: I'll see why Evans can kind of keep up that 533 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 2: kind of pace as he gets older. 534 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think he has a real shot 535 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: of an undervalued shot. People just don't respect him. And 536 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: he's one of only three receivers in NFL history with 537 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: a thousand yards receiving in each of his first five seasons. 538 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: The other two are Randy Moss and AJ Green, you know, 539 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: and like I think Green is probably a Hall of 540 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: Famer two. But I mean, Evans has to keep it up. 541 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: But what he's done to this point is pretty incredible, 542 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: and he just doesn't get the props for it. Bringing 543 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: it back to Deshaun Jackson, it will be I think, 544 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: definitely nice to see him, you know, finish his career 545 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: in an Eagles uniform. On the topic of clothing, I'm 546 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: going to talk about Mack Weldon. Oh yeah, It's been 547 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 1: a while since I had the privilege of getting to 548 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: talk about Mack Weldon to a captive audience. But now 549 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: once again I get to talk about how comfortable I 550 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: am and how good I look. Am I mac Daddy 551 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: Weldon hoodie. I hate shopping for clothes. I hate shopping online. 552 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: I hate shopping for clothes online. 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Tevin Coleman with the 590 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: forty nine ers, what do you think? 591 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: I love it from like an on field standpoint, because 592 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: Tevin Coleman's awesome. I was tweeting during free agency just 593 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: looking at some of his routes he's run as a 594 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: receiver in the slot. He's so smooth, he's so explosive, 595 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: you know, really ranks highly in a bunch of efficiency measures. 596 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 3: But we've never seen him get. 597 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: The volume to really go all the way and become 598 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: a true RB one with it. And we're not going 599 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 2: to get that volume in San Francisco now. I mean 600 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: we've seen basically with Kyle Shanahan calling the shots in Atlanta. 601 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 2: With Coleman, his ceiling was pretty much like an RB 602 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 2: twenty and he was only getting there through sheer efficiency 603 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 2: and just being a baller. And I'm not saying he 604 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: can't continue to do that. But right now, we've got 605 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,239 Speaker 2: Jack McKinnon there still, we got Matt Brader is still there, 606 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: we got Raheem Moser still, We've got Kyle Yuschek still 607 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: who's playing a ton of snaps. So it's one of 608 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: those situations where, Yeah, Tevin Coleman definitely helps the forty 609 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,959 Speaker 2: nine ers offense because he's such a great playmaker, but 610 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a tough guy to get behind fantasy 611 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: unless they cut Jack McKinnon. And because I haven't doved 612 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 2: in the contract a ton, but it looks like most 613 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 2: of his guarantees already been paid. 614 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is the real question. Are they going to 615 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: keep McKinnon. I think Brada has kind of locked in 616 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: his role a little bit. I think it would be 617 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: weird for them to have McKinnon and Coleman to pay 618 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: both of those guys and to let Brita go. So yeah, 619 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: it's a little bit hard to know what is happening 620 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: with that backfield because there are legitimately now five guys 621 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: who might end up getting some action at some point. 622 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Tyrell Williams, Tyrell the Gazelle signing with 623 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: the Raiders. 624 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 2: Down gray for him going from philp Rivers and Derek Carr. 625 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 2: But gotta give Tyrell his help props. He trails only 626 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 2: Julio Jones, Tyreek Kill, Tyler Lockett, and Gronk among players 627 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: with one hundred plus targets since twenty fifteen and yards 628 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 2: per target. I mean, yeah, he's been a field stretcher, 629 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 2: but it's even like adjusted for average target deaf a 630 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 2: little bit. I mean, he's just truly been really efficient 631 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 2: whenever the ball is thrown his way. I think there 632 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: is a chance here that we can see Ab and 633 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 2: Tyrell be the Marii Cooper and Michael Crabtree duo that 634 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: are both getting, you know, one hundred and twenty plus 635 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: targets per year. 636 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 3: I'm just not positive though. 637 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 2: And the real unfortunate thing and all this is that 638 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: Jordy Nelson's gone, so, oh my gosh, we got to 639 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: deal with another season of Seth Roberts in the slot 640 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: and just ruining our DFS lineups every week. It doesn't 641 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,719 Speaker 2: look like Jared Cooks are going to resign there at 642 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 2: the moment. But I'm just the ideal if all these 643 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 2: targets go to AB and Tyroll Wills. But I've I've 644 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 2: learned a long time ago to not assume anything with 645 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: Derek Carr in the center. 646 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, or John Gruden as the head coach. One thing 647 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: that I think is an underrated possibility because I like 648 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: Tyrell has had a lot of potential. He is a 649 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: guy who has I believe a thousand yard season under 650 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: his belt. There's a non zero chance that Ab declines 651 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: a little bit faster than people think he will in 652 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: that Tyrell really really becomes like the like the Juju 653 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: function for this where a lot of attention gets shifted 654 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: to Antonio Brown and Tyrell Williams is able to benefit 655 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: from that. I think there's a chance that that happens, 656 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: but at like a minimum, we're talking about a guy who, 657 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: over the last three seasons his average over eight hundred touchdowns, 658 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: sorry not touchdowns, over eight hundred yards per year. So 659 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: there's some potential there with him. Let's talk about mark 660 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: Ingram going from the Saints to the Ravens. 661 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: I guess best case scenario for both parties. I mean, 662 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 2: we saw the big difference last year. They went away 663 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: from Alex Collins. They went to Gus Edwards once Lamar 664 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 2: Jackson took over. The big reason for that was Alex Collins. 665 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 2: God bless the guy. I love watching the way he runs, 666 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: but has a big time tendency of trying to cut back. 667 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 2: You know, he would take a lot of plays that 668 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 2: would end up being tackled for a loss and then 669 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 2: he'd make up for it with a bigger run. But 670 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,479 Speaker 2: wasn't exactly what the Ravens wanted in an offense that 671 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 2: struggled so much to pass the ball. 672 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson under center. 673 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: Gus Edwards was the opposite, wasn't able to bust big 674 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 2: plays when he finished the year number one in success right, 675 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: you know, he consistently gets you positive yardage. That's what 676 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: mark Ingram's been for the last three years. He's finished third, first, 677 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 2: and fifth in success rate over the last three seasons. 678 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: And we've also seen him provide some home run hitting ability. 679 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 2: I mean he's a little bit older, but at the 680 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 2: same time, he's never had over two hundred and thirty 681 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 2: carries in a season. I think it's something like Todd 682 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 2: Gurley only has about two hundred and eighty fewer carries 683 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: than Ingram, even though Gurley came into the league something 684 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 2: like four years later. So I think Ingram's still relatively 685 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 2: young in terms of just wear and tear on his body. 686 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 2: And I'm a little concerned if he'll get enough snaps 687 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 2: to truly get. 688 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 3: A fifteen to twenty touch workload. But I think if. 689 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 2: That's there, he has all the makings of being a 690 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: potential RB one. 691 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's going to continue to get the touches. 692 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to have the touchdowns he's 693 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: previously had and that has been a fairly significant source 694 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: of his fantasy value. And then also he's gotten like 695 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: that kind of underappreciated number of targets over the last 696 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: five years. As you know, a guy who plays in 697 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: an offense with a quarterback who really likes to spread 698 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: the ball around. So he's a good receiving back, and 699 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: I think that means that he's going to be on 700 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: the field more. But I don't think he's going to 701 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: get the targets from Lamar Jackson, who I think is 702 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 1: like less inclined to check it down to the running 703 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: back and more inclined just to run the ball. But 704 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: we have seen the efficiency, the added efficiency that a 705 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: running quarterback adds to the running game overall and to 706 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: running backs that are next to him in particular, So 707 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: I do think it is a good fit for Ingram 708 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: in that sense. All right, let's talk about Cole Beasley 709 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: and John Brown signing with the Buffalo Bills. I don't 710 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: know what do we have to say about two guys 711 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: who are going to have Josh Allen throwing them the ball. 712 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was really hoping that smoke he could have 713 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 2: gone somewhere literally pretty much anywhere other than Buffalo. But 714 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 2: maybe not if Josh Allen can just get a little 715 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 2: more accurate, which I know is like the one thing 716 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 2: that we shouldn't assume quarterbacks can really improve on. But 717 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 2: the one thing is he did lead the league with 718 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 2: a nineteen point eight percent deep ball rate. I mean, 719 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 2: no one was really throwing the ball down field more 720 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 2: often than Josh Allen in between his wild scrambles, So 721 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: I'm not confident he can really put it accurately to 722 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: John Brown. But at the same time, if anyone can 723 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 2: run down these wild deep balls. Maybe it is smokey, 724 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: so it's gonna be inconsistent. I think I'm not overly 725 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 2: optimistic on Josh Allen taking a massive jump as a 726 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 2: passer in the year two, But I have way more 727 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 2: optimism for John Brown becoming a fantasy relevant guy than 728 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 2: Cole Beasley at least too. Look, I mean, Beasley, you know, 729 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 2: he's similar as Adam Humphrey, is just super consistent. He's 730 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 2: catching over seventy percent of his targets. At the same time, 731 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 2: he's never finished higher than the PPR Watch receiver thirty three. 732 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 2: That was even in that Cowboys year where Dad's was 733 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 2: hurt for a lot of time. It was almost the 734 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 2: best case scenario. So I really don't see a scenario 735 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 2: where Beasley is gonna be a fantasy relevant player. I 736 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 2: think him being there, more than anything, just hurts Zay 737 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 2: Jones's outlook, because I think it's gonna be Robert. 738 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 3: Foster and John Brown still on the outside. 739 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 2: But the good thing is the Bills are getting some 740 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 2: weapons because we should give Josh Allen a little bit 741 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 2: of a credit in terms of that offense. Really had 742 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 2: known from the throw to last year. I mean, he 743 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 2: pretty much made Robert Foster into at least a decent 744 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 2: fantasy contributor towards the end of the season. And hey, 745 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 2: Josh Allen was the QB one I believe those last 746 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 2: five weeks when he was running the ball every other play. 747 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: So at least he has some more weapons this year. 748 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 2: We'll see, We'll see how it works out. 749 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: All right, Golden Tate with the Giants. 750 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 2: I know he's still got the yards after catchability, but 751 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 2: he's aging. We saw what happened when he went to Philly. 752 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 2: He wasn't getting fed nine targets every game. And I'm 753 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 2: not even sure he's gonna line up because Sterling Shepherd 754 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 2: has been their primary slot receivers. So again mentioned this earlier, 755 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 2: but I'm not even sure if it matters where he 756 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 2: lines up. This is one of those situations where again 757 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 2: I'm targeting Saquon maybe a little bit of Evan Ingram, 758 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 2: like you said, but I think going out after a 759 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 2: Golden Tate isn't quite the thing to do. 760 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting like a team like the Patriots has 761 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 1: been able to get away with playing slot receivers like outside, 762 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: but yeah, and having like basically multiple slot receivers on 763 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: the field, but I don't know if the Giants are 764 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: going to be able to do that with certainly Shepherd 765 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,720 Speaker 1: and Golden Tate because you know, at this point Eli 766 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: Manning isn't you know? Tom Brady, Yeah, and I saw. 767 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 3: I think Chris Raybond had a good tweet. 768 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 2: Who's looking at the yards per route run for these 769 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 2: guys from the slot and from the outside. I believe 770 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 2: both Shepherd and Tate had similar figures, So I'm not 771 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 2: saying they can't still have some success on the outside. 772 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 2: The bigger thing is just this offense as a whole 773 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 2: without someone like Obj to clear out that area for 774 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 2: these more underneath dudes. 775 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 3: And again, it's still Eli throwing the ball. 776 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's a good point. Nick Foles signing with 777 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: the Jaguars, what do you think. 778 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 2: I think we've seen at this point that Foles is 779 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 2: going to kind of be a boom or bust fantasy option. 780 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 2: The question I have is who's going to benefit the 781 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 2: most among his receivers, because don't forget we got Marquise 782 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 2: Lee coming back after we missed the whole season. Dede 783 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: Westbrook had a really good year two and the guy 784 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 2: I'm pretty high on was their third round pick from 785 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 2: last year. It might have been second, but DJ Chark 786 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 2: out of LSU, who ran a four to three, one 787 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 2: of the premier field stretches. 788 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 3: From that class. 789 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 2: And I think if any of these guys are gonna 790 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 2: be able to run down these deep balls from Folds, 791 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 2: it could be Chark. 792 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 3: But I don't know who you think ends up believing 793 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 3: this team in targets. 794 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: Oh that's a hard one. I mean, I guess I 795 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: would say in targets it would probably be Lee, but 796 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 1: I don't really think of him as someone I want 797 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: on my team because I don't trust his upside. I 798 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: would rather take your shot on someone like Dde Westbrook 799 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: because I think he has the field stretching ability, but 800 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 1: also given that he plays in the slot, I think 801 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: he will have easier matchups and he can also I think, 802 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: have some easier targets and then kind of turn that 803 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: intoers after the catch. So I think pretty easily prefer 804 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: west Ryan Fitzpatrick signing with the Dolphins. 805 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 2: So fits magic last year, and we cannot overstate just 806 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 2: how good he was as a Fantasy contributor. I mean, 807 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 2: obviously he fell off the cliff and a couple starts, 808 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 2: but he was a top five TV and four of 809 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 2: the seven starts. His nine point six average yards per 810 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,240 Speaker 2: pass attempt was literally the third best mark ever among 811 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 2: quarterbacks would throw at least two hundred passes in a 812 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 2: single season. 813 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 3: So I had easily the best year of his career. 814 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 2: And I don't know, I don't think we suld necessarily 815 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 2: assume he's going to just crash back to Earth as 816 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 2: a terrible quarterback. 817 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 3: And he's got some weapons in Miami. 818 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I was really hoping they get Tyrod or 819 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 2: Kyler Murray and become this really really fast of offense 820 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 2: because look at all these guys. They got Albert Wilson 821 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 2: to Keem Grant, DeVante Parker even like Kenyan Drake and 822 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,399 Speaker 2: Mike Jioseki. All these guys are four four four three 823 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 2: guys even, and their speed all over the field. We'll 824 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 2: see how the new offense looks and everything, but I 825 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 2: think I think Fitzpatrick was going to be able to 826 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 2: enable one of these receivers to be a pretty consistent, 827 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,479 Speaker 2: fancy contributor. I did even mentioned Kenny Stills who could 828 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 2: be the front runner for that role, but I'm not 829 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 2: sure who it's going to. 830 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: Be Yeah, I mean guaranteed there's at least one week 831 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: where Fitzpatrick wins a GPP for someone. You know, you 832 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: just kind of need to stack him with one of 833 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: his receivers every week, and like, one week it's going 834 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: to happen. Dante Moncreef signs with the Steelers. 835 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 3: I like Moncreef and Indy. 836 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 2: He wasn't able to get stuff going on in Jacksonville, 837 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 2: but he averaged almost a half touchdown per game in 838 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 2: thirty one career games with Andrew Lux, so we've seen 839 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 2: him have some red zone success as long as his 840 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 2: quarterback pretty much hasn't been Blake Bortles or Jacobe Brissett. 841 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 2: At the same time, James Washington's already on the outside. 842 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 2: Jujus obviously a fed. We talked about the running backs earlier. 843 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 2: Vas McDonald's could be another guy that's going to see 844 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 2: a target uptick, and I'm just not really all that 845 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 2: convinced that Dante moncus could be able to approach triple 846 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 2: digit targets. I got to look at the contract a 847 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 2: little closer, but I don't know. I'm pretty sure it's 848 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 2: just a one year deal and it's not a situation 849 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 2: where we should necessarily expect him to walk into a 850 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 2: top two or three pass game role. 851 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree. I think he will have a 852 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 1: couple of blow up games, but not anything we would 853 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,720 Speaker 1: be able to count on. And I would be surprised 854 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 1: if he does emerge as the like the solid, clear 855 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: number two receiver. I think James Washington has a better 856 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: shot at that. A guy who is interesting. We talked 857 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: about him last week, Devin Funches with the Colts, and 858 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: I think he actually will probably play like that old 859 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: Dante Moncrief role. What are your thoughts with him? 860 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. You said it. 861 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 2: He's locked in as their number two wide receiver in 862 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 2: that offense, just pacedime them not really having anyone else. 863 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 2: I mean, people kind of scoffed at that big thirteen 864 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 2: million dollar number he's getting for just one year, but 865 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 2: Indy has so much cap room it really didn't matter 866 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 2: as much and it is just one year. So but 867 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 2: with that said, six or four two hundred and thirty pounds, 868 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 2: we've seen what Luck does with any tight end they 869 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 2: put on the field. Funch is you could, and he 870 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 2: was playing tight end in Michigan at first. I mean 871 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 2: you can just call him an overly athletic tight. 872 00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 3: End if you wanted to. 873 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 2: I'm not sure, as I guess you'd call that an 874 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 2: insult to someone who claims to be a wide receiver. 875 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 2: But I think it's going to matter in Indian I'd 876 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 2: like to hear your take here, Matt, because I think 877 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 2: Devin Funch has finishes with more touchdowns than Eric Ebrom 878 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 2: next year. 879 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: That's probably a fair take, Like I think you will 880 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: certainly finish with more targets. I think the big question 881 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: is how much is Ebron going to be on the field. 882 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: Are they going to do the thing where they'd limit 883 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: his snaps? Does Jack Doyle return and play a lot 884 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: of the snaps and kind of relegate Ebron to more 885 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 1: of a specialized role. But I'll still go with Ebron. 886 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,479 Speaker 1: He's just, I think, so dynamic in the red zone, 887 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 1: and he already has an established connection, And I think 888 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: like it's easier to bet on Ebron doing something similar 889 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: to what he did last year than to bet on 890 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: Functious succeeding when we've never really seen him have much success. 891 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: So I'll go with Ebron. But I think it's going 892 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: to be close. Adam Humphries signing with the Titans. 893 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of the cool Beasley thing. I mean, 894 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 2: adding one of these guys that so good at getting 895 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 2: open and consistently catching it. Obviously great for the quarterback 896 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 2: and great for the offense. But I don't think we're 897 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 2: gonna see any fantasy relevance here. He got at least 898 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 2: fifty five passes for at least six hundred yards in 899 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 2: each of these past three years. But at the same time, 900 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay was number four in pass attempts last year, 901 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 2: Tennessee was thirty first, so we got the Lady Walker 902 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 2: coming back as well. I mean, it seems like Humphrey 903 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 2: is going to enter a season as a number three 904 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 2: pass game option and one of the league's most run 905 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 2: heavy offenses. So I'll be staying away in pretty much 906 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 2: all forms of fancy. 907 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 1: Peyton Barber resigning with Tampa Bay, which I think is 908 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: actually a really underrated under the radar signing because there's 909 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 1: a real chance he could just end up being the 910 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: lead back there again. 911 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, at least a start. 912 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 2: I mean, we have seen I mean some of the 913 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 2: guys and that Bruce arians fed in Arizona, like Andre 914 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 2: Ellington washed up Chris Johnson. He wasn't afraid the feature 915 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 2: of these backs that didn't necessarily have David Johnson esque ability. 916 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 2: With that said, I think because they don't have a 917 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 2: pack that's like David Johnson, I don't think they're done 918 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 2: addressing the position. And we could see them Tiger running 919 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 2: back earlier in the draft, but maybe not because they 920 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 2: still got Ronald Jones. It was their second round pick 921 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 2: last year. So it's an interesting situation. 922 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 3: But I'm with you. 923 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 2: I mean, it wouldn't be shocking if Barber enters Week 924 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 2: one as the starting running back. 925 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: All right, sticking in Tampa Bay, Breshad Perryman we mentioned 926 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: him earlier, has signed with Tampa Bay. What are your 927 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 1: thoughts on him? 928 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 2: I mean, he's always had all the talent. That's why 929 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 2: he was a first round pick, six foot two two 930 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 2: and twelve pounds of four to three speed. I don't 931 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 2: see why he couldn't have a few splash weeks. He's 932 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 2: going to be working. 933 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 3: Behind Godwin and Evans at least. 934 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 2: I know you like Watson to potentially beat him out, 935 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,720 Speaker 2: but there's an outside scenario where he could be Arian's 936 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 2: new Smoky Brown and give us a few splash weeks. 937 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that could happen. Geronimo Allison has re 938 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: signed with the Green Bay Packers. What are your thoughts? 939 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: Is he someone that we should count on as a 940 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 1: as a starter for that team. 941 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 2: I think so because we've seen Aaron Rodgers just have 942 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 2: ridiculous success with him at this point. I mean he's look, 943 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 2: Rogers have targeted twenty p players in his career at 944 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 2: least fifty times. Among that group, only Jordan Nelson and 945 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 2: Allison have averaged over ten yards tenant justin yards per attempt. 946 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 2: A lot of the times Rodgers has thrown to him, 947 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 2: it's downfield, so they're pretty fantasy friendly targets. And there's 948 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 2: still holes in that Packers receiving corps because they really 949 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 2: haven't gone out of their way to replace anyone or 950 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 2: ad anyone other than losing Cobs. So I think we 951 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 2: could still see starting three wide receiver sets at Devonte Adams, Allison, 952 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 2: and then one of Marquez Valdas scaling won the rookies 953 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 2: from last year. 954 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: Okay, the next guy, Adrian Peterson has re signed with 955 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins. This terrifies me because he actually had 956 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: twelve hundred and fifty scrimmage yards last year, which is like, 957 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 1: that's a pretty decent season, especially for a guy who's 958 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 1: thirty three years old. He had eight touchdowns. I'm a 959 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: little bit worried that he is going to delay the 960 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: development of Darius Guys, who I'm pretty excited about. But 961 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts with Adrian Peterson? What are we 962 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: potentially going to see out of him next year? 963 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Man, he was good last year and he 964 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 2: was actually playing even better before pretty much the entire 965 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 2: Redskins offensive line got hurt around a week eleven or. 966 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,439 Speaker 3: Twelve or so, around the same time Alex Smith went down. 967 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,919 Speaker 2: So, you know, great job on Ap for really coming 968 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 2: through after the entire league I had written him off. 969 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 2: But with that said, yeah, i mean, not only is 970 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 2: Ap there to take away touches from Geist, but Chris 971 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 2: Thompson's still there to come in on pass downs and everything. 972 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,439 Speaker 2: So it's tough to see Geys really entering Week one 973 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,320 Speaker 2: now with a big role, especially coming off this injury. 974 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 2: The question I guess is how well is that recovery going, 975 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 2: Because I've seen some videos on Twitter and all that 976 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 2: it does seem like everything's fine, But it's curious to 977 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 2: see them. We sign AP because they were so high 978 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 2: on Geis going into last season as a potential three 979 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 2: down guy. But I don't think AP would resign there 980 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 2: if he wasn't assured of at least some early down more. 981 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 1: All right, the next guy, Quarterrell Patterson, has signed with 982 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,879 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. I should just say, I know where 983 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 1: you're going with this, and it's ridiculous, but go ahead. 984 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 2: All right if you will, called the guy averaging the 985 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 2: most stards per rush in the NFL since two thousand, 986 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,240 Speaker 2: minimum fifty carries ridiculous, you can, Matt, But look, Quadal 987 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 2: Patterson has been a running back, and the entire draft 988 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 2: community owes him an apology for calling him a wide 989 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 2: receiver for all these years and trying to turn him 990 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 2: into a bus Because put the ball in the guy's hands, 991 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 2: he makes place. 992 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 3: He's the second best kick. 993 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 2: Returner ever, and he was good enough to get Bill 994 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 2: Belichick and Tom Brady to give him real snaps out 995 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 2: wide receiver as well in pivotal moments of last season. 996 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 2: So hats off Adam Gase. You got yourself a playmaker? Yes, 997 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 2: super Bowl winning Yeah, Naggie, that's on me. Yeah not 998 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 2: Adam But yes, you were thinking of was it like 999 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen. 1000 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 1: Adam Gas That? Yeah, okay, twy fifteen Adam Gase. All right, 1001 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 1: Zack Zinner has resigned with the Detroit Lions. I still 1002 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 1: have a flame for this guy. At some point his 1003 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:59,720 Speaker 1: elite Spark Athletics is going to render all other running 1004 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 1: back options on that team obsolete. Probably not, But what 1005 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: do you think here? 1006 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 2: I just think the big point here is that it 1007 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 2: looks like Detroit's gonna continue to use a committee system. 1008 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 2: ESPN's Matthew Berry had a nice article after the combine 1009 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 2: where he talked to a lot of coaches and he 1010 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 2: said that his sense from both Matt Patricia and Bob 1011 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 2: Quinn was that they're pretty clear out they did not 1012 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 2: intend to give carry On a feature back role that 1013 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,359 Speaker 2: they both believe in multiple backs. So Theo Riddick's still 1014 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 2: there to take away some pass down snaps. And you know, 1015 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 2: I'm not quite a tie as Zach Zentner as you are. 1016 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 2: I like carry On and what he can bring the table, 1017 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 2: but I don't see any of these guys averaging over 1018 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 2: fifteen touches of the game, which is obviously what we're 1019 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:38,760 Speaker 2: looking for in fantasy. 1020 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,399 Speaker 1: I mean, Zach Zentner's twenty eight years old. It's about 1021 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 1: time for that breakout. DeVante Parker has signed re signed 1022 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: amazingly with the Miami Dolphins. 1023 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 2: Man, I was so ready to give up on this guy, 1024 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 2: and now I don't know. Maybe this is what all 1025 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 2: we need is a little bit of Ryan fitzmagic to 1026 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 2: turn around the whole career for Devonte Parker. 1027 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 3: But now I don't think we're gonna see all that 1028 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:02,399 Speaker 3: much here. 1029 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 2: If I had to guess got in my head, I'd 1030 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 2: say Albert Wilson is the guy that emerges out of 1031 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,959 Speaker 2: this as their best playmaker this year. He was really 1032 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,839 Speaker 2: playing incredible last year, was averaging over three yards per 1033 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 2: out run, which is something really only Julio Jones has 1034 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 2: done over the last several years before he got hurt. 1035 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 2: So I'm looking forward to seeing what Albert Wilson been 1036 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 2: doing this offense, more so than DeVonta. 1037 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like Parker has been in the league 1038 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 1: at this point, like we've been waiting on the potential 1039 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: breakout for like seven years, you know it, Just it 1040 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 1: feels like he's been in this limbo state forever. Latavius 1041 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 1: Murray signing with the New Orleans Saints. This one is 1042 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 1: really interesting to me. I had Murray essentially written off 1043 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 1: before free agency as someone no team should really be 1044 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 1: all that interested in, or just I wasn't expecting a 1045 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,319 Speaker 1: team really to be interested in him. But signing with 1046 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: the Saints is interesting because they historically have used a 1047 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 1: committee and he is a touchdown scorer, and if he 1048 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: slots in even as a lesser markie Ingram, that could 1049 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 1: still have a lot of value. What do you think? Yeah, 1050 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 1: I agree with you. 1051 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 2: It's just a question of how close will he be 1052 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 2: used to what we saw with Ingram, Because obviously last season, 1053 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 2: those first four weeks when Ingram was suspended, we saw 1054 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 2: Kamara easily work as the RB one, just with the 1055 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,919 Speaker 2: amount of targets and also just being the crystal clear 1056 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 2: goal line back as well, which is so huge for him. 1057 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 2: But Latavius is definitely at least more competent than those 1058 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,800 Speaker 2: Trey Williams and the types of guys that they tried 1059 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 2: to get in there to replace Ingram for those first 1060 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 2: four weeks. So I don't know if we're going to 1061 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,360 Speaker 2: see as close to a fifty to fifty kind of 1062 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 2: split that we had with Ingram and Kamara, but I 1063 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 2: could see maybe a sixty forty seventy thirty split, whereas 1064 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 2: a lot of people might think that this is now 1065 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,720 Speaker 2: just Kamara's backfield. 1066 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 1: All right, Frank Gore has signed with the Buffalo Bills 1067 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 1: to give them one of the oldest running back backfields 1068 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 1: of all time. What are your thoughts? 1069 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the only point we need to bring 1070 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,879 Speaker 2: up here is that I think Shady McCoy's longtime reign 1071 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,920 Speaker 2: as a very relevant fantasy back if it wasn't already 1072 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 2: dead last year, I think we can go ahead and 1073 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 2: put him down now because all Frank Gore does is 1074 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,360 Speaker 2: come to teams, play well enough and hit all his 1075 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 2: assignments to get snaps. And I don't see either of 1076 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 2: these running backs now playing any amount of significant snaps 1077 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,840 Speaker 2: or get enough touches to be a fantasy factor. And 1078 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 2: yet if they do, now they got to deal with 1079 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 2: Josh Allen voltrig them every time they get close to 1080 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 2: the goal line. 1081 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:30,320 Speaker 1: Anyway, Yeah, I could seriously see Frank Gore out producing 1082 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy this year, which is just kind of amazing 1083 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 1: considering how old Gore is. Jamison Crowder signing with the 1084 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 1: Jets slotted to be their slot guy. What do you think? 1085 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 2: Okay, Adam Gaze, head coach of the New York Jets, 1086 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,760 Speaker 2: not the Bears. He has featured Wes Welker and Jarvis 1087 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 2: Landry like huge roles during his time in Denver and Miami. 1088 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 2: We've even seen like Eddie Royle back when he was 1089 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 2: with the Bears and Danny Amandola last year still average 1090 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 2: at least five targets per game from the slot. 1091 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 3: A huge Crowder guy. 1092 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 2: But I do think this is a situation where he's 1093 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 2: gonna be getting at least five targets per game. I 1094 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 2: don't think he's really gonna be touching that potential Jarvis 1095 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 2: Landry eight to ten targets. I still think Robbie Anderson 1096 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,439 Speaker 2: will be the number one target getter in New York. 1097 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 3: Anythink ends up leading this team of targets? 1098 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 1: Oh? Man, I think Landry. Sorry, I think Crowder. Actually, 1099 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 1: I agree with you that he's not going to approach 1100 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 1: what Landry was able to do. But as you mentioned, 1101 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,880 Speaker 1: like just even from the time he was the offensive 1102 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 1: coordinator with the Broncos, he was funneling targets to Wes Walker, 1103 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: Eric Decker and Emmanuel Sanders in the slot, and then 1104 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,359 Speaker 1: you know, even a Mondola saw some decent run last year, 1105 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: and I think that we should see probably something like 1106 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 1: in between what Crowder has historically seen and what a 1107 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 1: Mondola has historically seen, just in terms of targets, which 1108 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,719 Speaker 1: I think could still give him something pretty close to 1109 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 1: like ninety five targets, maybe one hundred targets. I don't 1110 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 1: know how rested they are going to be in Robbie Anderson, like, 1111 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 1: I like him, but Darnold didn't really establish a super 1112 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,240 Speaker 1: strong connection with either Anderson or in Nunua. And Gas 1113 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 1: is just a guy who likes the final targets to 1114 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,920 Speaker 1: his slot receiver. And they you know, they did go 1115 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 1: out of their way to sign Crowder when they could 1116 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 1: have signed someone else to play in the slot, So 1117 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 1: I like, I think they actually like him. That's why 1118 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,239 Speaker 1: I'm expecting him to be the guy. But I don't 1119 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,439 Speaker 1: expect it to be like a huge target share. 1120 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 3: That's fair. 1121 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 1: Danny A Mondola h signing with the Lions. What do 1122 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 1: you think it. 1123 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,879 Speaker 2: Would be the most detroit thing ever? If Stafford just 1124 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 2: turns around and starts feeding Amintola like Golden Tate level targets. 1125 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:47,240 Speaker 3: But I really think this is like their move to. 1126 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 2: Not do that anymore, because the two most efficient targets 1127 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 2: of Stafford's career minimum fifty targets have been Marvin Jones 1128 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 2: and Kenny Galladay. I mean, both these guys they can 1129 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 2: really work any area of the field. They got some speed, 1130 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 2: they can go up and get the ball, and we've 1131 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 2: seen both of them do it consistently throughout the career. 1132 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 2: So getting someone out like Golden Tate that was demanding 1133 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 2: so many targets made sense for the overall ceialing of 1134 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 2: the offense. I'll tell you what, though, I'm excited to 1135 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 2: take Marvin Jones about four rounds after Kenny Galladay and 1136 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 2: all these season long drafts because. 1137 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 3: I mean, look, Kenny g is a baller, There's no 1138 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 3: debating that. 1139 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 2: But I think they're still pretty close comparables in terms 1140 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 2: of production for this year, and we have seen Marvin 1141 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 2: do a little bit longer than Kenny. 1142 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, we should think about this and maybe come up 1143 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,600 Speaker 1: with some sort of bet on it. I would bet 1144 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 1: on Galladay out producing him. I mean, I bet you 1145 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,440 Speaker 1: prob that too, But you take the value with Jones 1146 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 1: exactly yeah, okay, the final guy. And actually I think 1147 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 1: kind of significant to talk about Carlos Hide signing with 1148 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, which you know potentially could mean some good 1149 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 1: things for Damian Williams. It's a question of how early 1150 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,720 Speaker 1: do you want to draft him in the seasonal league, 1151 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 1: but there's some potential there. What do you think of 1152 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:57,880 Speaker 1: Carlos Hyde? 1153 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, so just figuring out who this starting running back 1154 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 2: is gonna be in Kansas City's so crucial. Kareem Hunt 1155 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 2: was the PPR RB six before he was cut last season. 1156 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 2: Damian Williams came in was the RB five from weeks 1157 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,879 Speaker 2: to thirteen to seventeen. So originally when Hey got signed here, 1158 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,040 Speaker 2: I was pessimistic towards Williams. I thought it was just 1159 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,680 Speaker 2: a sign that we could see some type of a committee. 1160 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 2: But you changed my mind a little bit because this 1161 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 2: is Hides fourteen since twenty seventeen. He really doesn't offer 1162 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 2: much ability as a receiver. So it seems like Damian Williams, 1163 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,080 Speaker 2: even as a worst case scenario here, we're still looking 1164 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,479 Speaker 2: at a guy that is going to play I would 1165 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 2: think sixty percent of snaps and get most of the 1166 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,399 Speaker 2: pass down work. Is that how you're kind of viewing 1167 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 2: this as well. 1168 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. And Williams, he's a guy 1169 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 1: who in the NFL hasn't had much work, so that 1170 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: you can hold that against him, But I'm kind of 1171 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,400 Speaker 1: taking the other perspective in that, like he's older, you know, 1172 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,719 Speaker 1: relative to what you would typically expect out of the 1173 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: back who like might quote unquote breakout, but you know, 1174 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,840 Speaker 1: he doesn't have much on the tires and in college 1175 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,840 Speaker 1: he was actually really productive. He's a big guy who's fast. 1176 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 1: You know, he has good athleticism, and he does have 1177 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 1: this skill set of being able to catch the ball, 1178 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 1: which is very important for the Andy Reid offense. So yeah, 1179 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 1: he's someone I'm I'm very interested in and will probably 1180 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 1: be targeting in red draft leagues. 1181 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. 1182 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,280 Speaker 2: It's just a matter of I don't know if Wallmes 1183 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 2: will be kind of a consensus first round pick or anything, 1184 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 2: because if. 1185 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,399 Speaker 3: He's not, he's going to be one of those guys in. 1186 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 2: The second or third round where I think he gets 1187 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 2: drafted and everyone kind of groans because they're hoping he'd 1188 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 2: fall to him because I assuming he can't get that 1189 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,319 Speaker 2: sixty percent or so snap role. 1190 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 3: It's going to be nothing but good things now Mahomes offense. 1191 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, right now, he's not a first rounder, but I 1192 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,320 Speaker 1: think he probably should be, and I think the closer 1193 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 1: we get to the start of the season, the higher 1194 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 1: his ADP is going to rise. So yeah, I think 1195 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 1: he's someone to get now if you are in best 1196 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 1: ball leagues, because you probably won't be able to get 1197 00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,480 Speaker 1: him or you won't want to get him later when 1198 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 1: you have to pay a higher price. Ian. 1199 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,960 Speaker 2: Actually, Matt, we have one more guy to talk about. 1200 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,320 Speaker 2: Hot off the press, The Cowboys are giving former Packers 1201 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 2: wide receiver Randall Cobble one year, five million. 1202 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 3: Dollar deal to be their new Lott Cole Beasley. 1203 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 1: Thoughts, Yeah, I'm not really expecting much from him, just 1204 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 1: like I never really expected much from Cold Beavie. But 1205 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 1: it's not like one year for five million. I mean, 1206 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 1: he's not yet thirty. It's not a bad signing. I 1207 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 1: think that's actually a pretty decent signing. They don't have 1208 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 1: much to lose. 1209 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. 1210 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 2: I mean Beasley was talking about once over twenty million guaranteed, 1211 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 2: so at the very least, I mean it's putting an 1212 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 2: approven guy into a position indeed that they were still 1213 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,120 Speaker 2: a tyle slower receiver and talking about putting Alan Hearns there. 1214 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 2: So from that perspective, I'm fine with that. 1215 00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,920 Speaker 1: I mean, the thing is, I think Beasley at this 1216 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 1: point in their careers is probably more athletic than RADL. Cobb, 1217 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 1: even though Cop is younger. 1218 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that's fair. 1219 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 2: It's been a few years since we've seen Cobb kind 1220 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 2: of resemble that early career dynamic playmakers. 1221 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, but not a not a bad signing, 1222 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 1: only five million, that's not bad at all. All right, 1223 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 1: that is going to do it For this episode of 1224 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 1: the Action Network NFL podcast. Please rate interview the show 1225 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 1: on iTunes, Subscribe, unsubscribe, and resubscribe for Ian Hardtz, I'm 1226 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 1: Matthew Freeman, Mattathi Oracle. See you again next episode.