WEBVTT - Three X-factors for the Cubs after the All-Star break

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome into Northside Territory File Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Sahadev Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your

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<v Speaker 1>Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick, we are

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about three names that need to step

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<v Speaker 1>up post All Star breaker. I mean, some of them

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<v Speaker 1>have already started to perform really well. We've seen flashes

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<v Speaker 1>of what they can be and how important they are

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<v Speaker 1>to this team. But the first name we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get to. We've talked a lot about pitching in recent episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>We know how important it is to get any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of even average performance right now out of a reliever

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<v Speaker 1>or starter. They just need decent innings to get through

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<v Speaker 1>games because you know, outside of you know, facing Hunter

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<v Speaker 1>Green when he's locked in. This offense has looked pretty

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<v Speaker 1>strong of late. We know what they're capable of, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's a strength of the team. And we saw Matthew

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<v Speaker 1>Boyd look like his best self in his last start.

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<v Speaker 1>The Cubs need that so much more often. They need

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<v Speaker 1>to see that, Like essentially, what they need in this

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<v Speaker 1>second half is what he was in the first half

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<v Speaker 1>last year, or I should say more than the first half.

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<v Speaker 1>It was much of the season. Uh, but it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like we saw it. He was he felt, looked like himself,

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<v Speaker 1>looked like the best version of Matthew Boyd. And just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getting six plus innings right now feels like

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<v Speaker 1>such a big deal for a starter. And he did

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<v Speaker 1>that and racked up some quality strikeouts, limited the walks.

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<v Speaker 1>Just looked like a really good Matthew Boyd. Yeah it was.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets the weather permitting. We'll see how we're recording

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday. I'm in Cincinnati. But he schedules to get

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<v Speaker 2>that last start before the All Star break, and after

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<v Speaker 2>his last outing in Baltimore, he you know, tried to

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<v Speaker 2>find the you know, silver lining in this of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe he saved some some bullets for for later.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that his arms should be relatively fresh down

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<v Speaker 2>the stretch here, we'll see. I mean, Craig Council, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>rarely likes putting it on one player. He always talks

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<v Speaker 2>about the group. He doesn't like separating out. Oh do

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<v Speaker 2>you need like the bullpen to be better or the

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<v Speaker 2>rotation to be better, or is the offensive concerned. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, one of the other won't be good enough.

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<v Speaker 2>But He's Boyd is one of those sort of exceptions

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<v Speaker 2>where it's like, yeah, he's supposed to be a huge

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<v Speaker 2>stabilizing force for this group. We saw it at at

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<v Speaker 2>Camden Yards of just having all this pitch is working,

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<v Speaker 2>having great you know, touch and feel.

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<v Speaker 3>With all of his offerings.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, his point was, you know, you when you're healthy,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to sorry if you're healthy. That's one thing,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's also getting reacclimated at game speed and having

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all of that at your disposal, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was a big step in the right direction for him.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's it's crazy. I mean, this is a guy

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<v Speaker 2>who started their first playoff game last year, he started

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<v Speaker 2>Opening Day, went to the All Star Game, selected for

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<v Speaker 2>Team USA and the WBC like, this is a major

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<v Speaker 2>talent when when things are right, and he just hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>given them a whole lot this year, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>it's clearly due uh, you know to injuries and that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if he's able in the second or after

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<v Speaker 2>the All Star break too, be that guy. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>that really kind of changes the calculus. It doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>they Cubs just sit out the trade deadline, but if

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<v Speaker 2>you have a guy that you feel comfortable starting a

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<v Speaker 2>playoff game.

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<v Speaker 3>That's huge.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I'm looking at his game log here, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a lot of start and stop for him. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>this year. It was a really good start his second start.

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<v Speaker 1>The first start, the peripherals were good. He gave up

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<v Speaker 1>far too many runs, six innings in three and two thirds,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he went out and struck out ten in

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<v Speaker 1>five and two thirds. And that's when I believe what

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<v Speaker 1>was a tricep for him? Bicep There spent so many injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>spent so many injuries, I can't keep track of them all.

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<v Speaker 1>And basically they just they were being extra cautious right

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<v Speaker 1>and shut him down for a little bit. He came

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<v Speaker 1>back in three weeks and then that freak injury happened.

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<v Speaker 1>He's outside of that second start. He just hasn't had

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<v Speaker 1>a start where you're like, yep, that looked really good

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<v Speaker 1>until the Baltimore start, and it kind of went just

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, I think you were asking or the

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<v Speaker 1>group was asking counsel about him, and and council said

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<v Speaker 1>what he needed or what what what he was hoping

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<v Speaker 1>would happen, I think is how he was putting it

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<v Speaker 1>out there and it went and happened. Uh, it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like that progression that you just said it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. It did look great in those first two

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<v Speaker 1>starts after the knee injury. He was fine. They needed innings. Obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>The state of this team is they'll take any type

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, qut decent pitching right now. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it was, and now it looks a lot better

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<v Speaker 1>and build off that, do that that that's what the

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<v Speaker 1>Cubs need, uh, Sunday, and then for the following two months,

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<v Speaker 1>two plus months, two and a half months after that,

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<v Speaker 1>and in October, they need him to be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty five version of Matthew Boyd. We we

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<v Speaker 1>know he wants that. We know he kind of he's

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<v Speaker 1>a he's a really out talked about this. He's extremely friendly,

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<v Speaker 1>kind person, seems like a really good guy. But when

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<v Speaker 1>he's on the mound and like even in post game,

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<v Speaker 1>like when you ask him, like, he has high expectations

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<v Speaker 1>for himself and he also and he's never surprised when

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<v Speaker 1>he's great, Yeah, because that is what he believes he

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<v Speaker 1>is supposed to do. So he he puts the he

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<v Speaker 1>has the same expectations that we're putting out there right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So now he's got to go out there and deliver.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a quick break, come back and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>a bat I think everyone knows, but we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk more about this bat that has to step up

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<v Speaker 1>We have been waiting three months now for Alex Brigman

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<v Speaker 1>to get hot. There was a stretch there very recently

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<v Speaker 1>where he was looking really good. I think the first

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<v Speaker 1>game in bult More, Uh kind of capped off a

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<v Speaker 1>nice stretch and and he he talked a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about that and and how the breaks, the break's not

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<v Speaker 1>coming in an ideal time. He's the last whatever three games.

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<v Speaker 1>We're like you said, we're recording on a on a

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday before Saturday's game. Uh. He is in a

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<v Speaker 1>three game hitless stretch. Uh. And and it didn't look

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<v Speaker 1>great against Hunter Green. Nobody looked great against Hunter Green.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh last night, Uh, Friday night. But what what was

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<v Speaker 1>Where's where's Bregman's head at? What? What was he talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>And how does he kind of view his second half?

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<v Speaker 2>Bely as Tuesday night in Baltimore, and he had a

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<v Speaker 2>nice game and you know, there are a bunch of questions.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>Bregmans, you know, a good talker and he sees the

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<v Speaker 2>whole game, so you can ask him about all sorts

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<v Speaker 2>of different things. But I, you know, it's the time

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<v Speaker 2>of the year where it's like, what about your performance?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, and I just said, is it you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like you're kind of picking it up, getting

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of rhythm. You know, it's All Star

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<v Speaker 2>break coming. Had a bad time here and he sort

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<v Speaker 2>of laughed and said he, you know, spoke with Pete

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<v Speaker 2>Alonzo at first base and the way Bregman recalled it

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<v Speaker 2>was Alonzo says something.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you're feeling better. He's like yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>So goes and you get the All Star break in

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<v Speaker 2>five days and was like, oh perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>And so on.

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<v Speaker 2>You can look at these things a lot of different ways.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're kind of grinding through it, does it make

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<v Speaker 2>sense to take a break and step back for four days?

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<v Speaker 2>Or if you're going off feel if you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you're making progress, do you not want to interrupt that for.

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<v Speaker 3>An All Star break?

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<v Speaker 2>And so CUB sitting coach Dustin Kelly said, basically they

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<v Speaker 2>had looked at these last two weeks before the All

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<v Speaker 2>Star breaks, so leaving Milwaukee, have a home stand at Wrigley,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, this trip to Baltimore and Cincinnati and

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<v Speaker 2>really kind of viewing that as hoping that's a building

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<v Speaker 2>block of really kind of honing in on a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of things. And you know, to be honest, like Bregman

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<v Speaker 2>is so obsessed with this that it's hard to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like like if this guy's constantly sending you know,

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<v Speaker 2>coaches videos anyway, and you know if every swing he

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<v Speaker 2>ever takes is recorded in the in the cage, out

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<v Speaker 2>on the field and VP. Obviously during games there's all

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<v Speaker 2>this tracking technology as well, like well, what's the.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, like now it's really the focus, but just

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<v Speaker 3>it just you know, this is such a.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, weird sport to try and figure out and

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, he did have his thumbs down home

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<v Speaker 2>run during that homestand he's been getting on base, collecting

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<v Speaker 2>hits during this stretch. His game Wednesday in Baltimore, i mean,

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<v Speaker 2>first at bat, you know, the left fielder makes this

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<v Speaker 2>crash crashing catch at the wall. His last at bat,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a bullet right at the third baseman. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>had a deep fly ball that scored a run and

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<v Speaker 2>advanced to other runners. There are signs he hasn't been

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<v Speaker 2>in that zero because he gets on base, because he

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<v Speaker 2>uh he plays gold Glove caliber defense. But like he

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<v Speaker 2>knows it, like he has not performed up to expectations,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he wants more. You know, he knows he has

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<v Speaker 2>to deliver more. He knows, you know, why he was

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<v Speaker 2>signed here, and just the home run power has not come. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't really know if it will or not,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's certainly from the moment he signed, we knew

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<v Speaker 2>he was gonna be kind of the main characters in

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<v Speaker 2>the story of the season. And you know, he's still

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<v Speaker 2>got some more time to rewrite that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mentioned that it was you know, hitless in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the last three games, and you actually look

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<v Speaker 1>at two of those games and the quality of contact

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<v Speaker 1>was was really nice. It was really the Hunter Green game.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said that, everybody struggled against him. There are signs,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you want to believe, you absolutely should. I

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<v Speaker 1>always I always feel like guys like Bregman, guys who

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<v Speaker 1>have proven it, Guys who you know, when they start

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<v Speaker 1>showing signs, it's like, Okay, this is going to work

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<v Speaker 1>at some point. It may not be perfect. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he ends with the numbers that

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<v Speaker 1>you want him to have. It's it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>what you were saying a few episodes ago. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>just just get you know, be great for whatever is left.

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<v Speaker 1>And if the if the numbers aren't the numbers that

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted at the beginning of the season, who cares?

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<v Speaker 1>Is a team where it needs to be? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>impacting the team down the stretch?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>That may be what the Cubs. That's really all the

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<v Speaker 1>Cubs care about. Now what he's done doesn't really matter anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Just go out there and perform. I think the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>concern whatever three weeks ago, when when this was really reaching,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the dear Hopefully it's in the deer for the Cubs,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Cubs certainly hope is has time caught up

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<v Speaker 1>with them. You know. Is the bat just not as

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<v Speaker 1>good as it once was? I don't think that's the case.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it we can talk about any so many players,

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<v Speaker 1>but we just saw this with Dan sby Swanson and

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<v Speaker 1>and like these things turn quickly, this has not been

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<v Speaker 1>This has been a little bit more of a slow burn,

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<v Speaker 1>and and it seems like it's turning, So it'd be

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<v Speaker 1>huge if it is. Because last episode we just talked

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<v Speaker 1>about Pete or Armstrong. We know how good this offense

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<v Speaker 1>can be. Saya Suzuki's really in a good spot second half.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like Bregman and and if Bush gets a power

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<v Speaker 1>surge and starts hitting for the power we know he

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<v Speaker 1>can hit for uh, this offense could could level up

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<v Speaker 1>even more. It's it's a really good offense, but you

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<v Speaker 1>need you need different guys to step up at different

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<v Speaker 1>moments because other people are gonna slump Pete. Pete isn't

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<v Speaker 1>going to be this hot for the rest of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he will be. Maybe he's just that type of

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<v Speaker 1>guy now, I don't know, but you have to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of assume like he he at least slows slightly h

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<v Speaker 1>But I think there's just no doubt that he's the

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<v Speaker 1>most important of the bats in the second half, as

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<v Speaker 1>far as guys that we haven't really seen perform at

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<v Speaker 1>the highest level. If he can perform at a high level,

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<v Speaker 1>it alters just how good this team can be. We

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<v Speaker 1>know how good their offense is, but if they can

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<v Speaker 1>be even better. Especially with all the injuries on the

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<v Speaker 1>pitching side, it becomes really important. Let's take a break

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<v Speaker 1>and talk about one more pitcher that is healthy right now,

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<v Speaker 1>has been healthy for most of the year, and is

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly important.

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick shouldau Minaga had a pretty rough stretch, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you talk to Craig Counsel, he'll say it's only two

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<v Speaker 1>games because that at the third game that Athletics start,

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<v Speaker 1>just all of a sudden at the very end, he

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<v Speaker 1>gave up some home runs and otherwise he had been

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<v Speaker 1>looking really good. I can't remember exactly what that day

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<v Speaker 1>was like, if it was a windblown home run night

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<v Speaker 1>or not, but either way, I remember, like Craig Council

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty adamant that it's only two bad starts, not three.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the box score looks different. He was really

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<v Speaker 1>impressed with Shoda that night, and he's been since that

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<v Speaker 1>Athletics start. It is six starts with a two eighty

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<v Speaker 1>one era. He looks like a great pitcher. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think we could go different directions with this third person.

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<v Speaker 1>We could focus on the bullpen, but we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this before, and I think the reason we decided not to,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a good reason, is because it's not about

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<v Speaker 1>one pitcher in the bullpen. It's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>group effort and it's going to be name that we

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<v Speaker 1>probably don't know that it impacts this team, so we

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<v Speaker 1>can't say, like Daniel Palencia, Yeah, he's going to be important,

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<v Speaker 1>but it if he stayed, like if he never gets

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<v Speaker 1>back to his best self, Like, there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>moves made. There's going to be trades that like the

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<v Speaker 1>bullpen is just like this moving you know, ever changing

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<v Speaker 1>unit right now with the way it's it's set up

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<v Speaker 1>due to injuries and ineffectiveness. Showed him Anaga just like

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew Boyd. We know what their ceilings are, we know

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<v Speaker 1>how good they can be. Showed is important for this group.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's he's been pretty damn good alls he's in

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<v Speaker 1>long The overall numbers don't really indicate that because the

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<v Speaker 1>the the bad outings were so bad. Uh, there's an

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<v Speaker 1>eight run game, there's a seven run game, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>five run game, there's a six run game. It's that

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<v Speaker 1>that really skews the numbers. He's been really good and

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<v Speaker 1>he needs to continue it in the second half.

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<v Speaker 2>A council said, Friday ends and snay like before and

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<v Speaker 2>after that stretch, however you want to frame it. He's

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<v Speaker 2>been really good and he thinks he's in a good spot.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean to show to credit he leads the team

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<v Speaker 2>in starts, end innings pitched, and no one's really close

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<v Speaker 2>in either category, and you need look, yeah, it would

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<v Speaker 2>be great if you know tomorrow the Cubs acquired no

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<v Speaker 2>doubt number one starter.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, you do the Asist project.

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<v Speaker 2>There are very few of those guys available, and you

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<v Speaker 2>need pitchers who can help get you to October. And

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<v Speaker 2>Shoda has been you know, if you look at those

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<v Speaker 2>other segments of the seasons, he's been excellent.

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<v Speaker 3>He's been not far off from his twenty twenty four version,

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<v Speaker 3>which was.

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<v Speaker 2>An All Star and you know, a cy Young Award

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<v Speaker 2>caliber performance.

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<v Speaker 3>And so.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Showda's bad moments are you know, he just

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<v Speaker 2>gives up so many home runs that some of the

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<v Speaker 2>online discourse I don't quite understand. It's just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not he's not usable, he's unplayable. And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you watch the totality of his work with the Cubs,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been it's been very good. Now, obviously he's sort

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<v Speaker 2>of spoiled everyone by how excellent it was as a rookie,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, you just hope they can make some

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<v Speaker 2>faster adjustments in August and September.

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<v Speaker 3>If he does go through another rough patch and.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the way last season ended and all of

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<v Speaker 2>the contract back and forth, you know, it wasn't a great.

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<v Speaker 3>Look.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it wasn't kind of the smoothest transition there,

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<v Speaker 2>but showeda went right to work last off season. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't really like reflecting on that or saying like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm back, or that he's you know, proved people wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know he does take a lot of pride

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<v Speaker 2>in what he's done. And you know, again, like is

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<v Speaker 2>he a guy you could trust to go through a

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<v Speaker 2>lineup twice in a playoff game?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, maybe maybe not.

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<v Speaker 2>Your first choice, but not unrealistic to think that he

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<v Speaker 2>can help get you to the playoffs and then be

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<v Speaker 2>a factor in the postseason.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. The home runs, Look, there's a there's a four

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<v Speaker 1>game stretcher where he gave up twelve home runs. He's

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<v Speaker 1>given up twenty two home runs on the season, and like,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve of them, over half of them came in a

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<v Speaker 1>four game stretch. He was not you know, he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>as effective as he needed to be during that stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember talking to Tommy Howneby during that stretch, what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on? Like, what are you working on? And he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>the problem is is that it's not the same thing,

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<v Speaker 1>Like different things were happening. So it's a when it's

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<v Speaker 1>not something where they were overly concerned, and it's also

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<v Speaker 1>not something like where they were like, just do this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the correction. There were some different things going

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<v Speaker 1>on over those starts, and they seem to largely have

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<v Speaker 1>been corrected over the last six I believe it's five

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<v Speaker 1>home runs and three of them coming in one game

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<v Speaker 1>against the Mets, So he's going to have those moments.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's annoying for fans to hear this, but

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<v Speaker 1>if he limits them to solo shots, even if it's

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<v Speaker 1>three of them, the Cubs should be able to win

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<v Speaker 1>those games because their offense is good enough. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna work every single time. He's gonna have a bad

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<v Speaker 1>outing here or there. I think the hope going forward

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<v Speaker 1>is they're two things. The hope going forward is those

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<v Speaker 1>games don't comment in the playoffs the really bad ones.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I think the reason for optimism is and

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<v Speaker 1>why you don't really look at it like last season

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<v Speaker 1>is because the stuff's completely different than last season. It's

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<v Speaker 1>back to the twenty twenty five or twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>version stuff wise, the results aren't exactly like twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>The home run is biting him a little bit, it

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<v Speaker 1>more often, and it's sometimes in the tougher situations. But

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<v Speaker 1>it absolutely that Velo being back to where it was

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<v Speaker 1>completely changes where I view him. I like it. Just

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<v Speaker 1>he was not the same picture in this once after

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<v Speaker 1>that hamsterring injury last year. Uh and and he's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, he's he doesn't love to get into

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<v Speaker 1>depth about it, but he put in the work to

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<v Speaker 1>get back to where he was. He's healthy now, he

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<v Speaker 1>feels right. And how do he said it? In spring training?

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<v Speaker 1>I think Schoda may have said it to He just

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<v Speaker 1>there were things he couldn't do with his body. He

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<v Speaker 1>wanted his body to move a certain way and it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't moving that way. And when you're hurt, when or

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<v Speaker 1>you're not fully recovered or whatever's going on, like you

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<v Speaker 1>can't do those things and you're just not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be as effective. This. He's a different picture right now

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<v Speaker 1>and and incredibly important and it comes don't have an

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<v Speaker 1>ace when you know there there are there are not

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<v Speaker 1>that many ones in the game. I wouldn't lock either

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<v Speaker 1>Boyd or showed it into two. But they can pitch

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<v Speaker 1>like twos. They for long stretches of time. You know, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd love to have Ben Brown back, You'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>have Kate Horton healthy. Like these guys all look like

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<v Speaker 1>ones when they're when when they're at their best. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the reality the Cubs are living in right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So Showda and Boyd, these guys have to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>carry the the unit going forward. Who knows what the

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<v Speaker 1>trade line brings, because it's going to be hard. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be really hard to get that impact. Guy

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<v Speaker 1>can't rule it out. We'll see what rumors pop up

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<v Speaker 1>over the coming weeks. But that's that's kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking at, these two guys being the guys that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to carry the bulk of the innings. A

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<v Speaker 1>healthy Jameson Tywn isn't like the same impact as far

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<v Speaker 1>as strikeouts and and and and things like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>like run suppression in general, Like he's going to give

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<v Speaker 1>up his fair share of runs, but he does eat innings,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's important too. But these are the two guys that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would focus on for the second half, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Tyne before we exit, is scheduled to be slided back

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<v Speaker 2>into the rotation after the All Star break, assuming everything

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<v Speaker 2>goes well in his second rehab start this weekend. Like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, another guy just professional a stabilizer.

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<v Speaker 3>Can help cover some.

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<v Speaker 2>Of these innings because it I do think this is

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<v Speaker 2>going to get harder, like stretching out some of these

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<v Speaker 2>bullpen performances, covering for shorter starts, like it's just not

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<v Speaker 2>as sustainable, and as Counsel said in Cincinnati, like it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like they're going to come back from the All

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<v Speaker 2>Star break and the injuries are all resolved, like they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be waiting on a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Other problems will pop up.

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<v Speaker 2>So you need those guys who you get paid to

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<v Speaker 2>cover those innings.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, there's I mean that that Thursday game in Baltimore,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a perfect example of like you just don't have enough.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't keep rolling out the same guys, and solid

0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 1>arms aren't going to always solid but unspectacular relief arms

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<v Speaker 1>like Tyler Ferguson, He's not gonna be perfect. He's going

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<v Speaker 1>to have these games where like he hits you guys

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever happened that that night, and uh it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't ideal, but like they needed. They need more

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<v Speaker 1>arms in the bullpen and they need guys to go

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<v Speaker 1>deeper in games. That's that's absolutely true, all right, Thanks

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<v Speaker 6>That you don't know Ilve

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<v Speaker 3>Bad won lived