1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. This is the best of with 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 2: There's an update from the Daniel Penny case. You all 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 2: recall Daniel Penny is facing manslaughter charges for the choking 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 2: death of Jordan Neely. This was something that for a 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 2: lot of New Yorkers and people who have been New 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: Yorkers and spend a ton of time in the New 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: York Subway like me, they're very strong feelings about this. 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: Penny is a marine and he gave for the first time. 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: He came forward and released a video. I think he 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: realizes that the politics of this are going to effect 12 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: and the perception of it's very much going to affect 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: the outcome. So he's put a video out where he 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: describes what it was like. 15 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: That day. 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: When Neely came on the subway. I would just note 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: for all of you before before we hear from Penny 18 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: from this video, he says that or it should be 19 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: pointed out that the media has been trying to convince everybody, 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: let's see Ann and others that Jordan Neely was a 21 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: beloved Michael Jackson impersonator. That was the story they were 22 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:25,639 Speaker 2: going with. What they left out is that Jordan Neely 23 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: had recently punched an elderly woman in the face, shattering 24 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: her nose in her eye socket. That Jordan Neely had 25 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: been arrested many many times over the years and was 26 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: known to menace people on the subway system. And that's 27 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 2: that's in a subway system where I would note in 28 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: case anyone's hasn't seen this. Just over the weekend, this 29 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: story broke where a twenty nine year old woman on 30 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: Friday nine pm. So after the show finished airing at 31 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: nine pm on Friday, the Chambers Street subway station subway 32 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,919 Speaker 2: station I've spent a ton of time in. A woman 33 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: had to fight off a stranger who exposed himself to 34 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: her in a subway car, punched her, pinned her to 35 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: the ground, and tried to rape her. The man escaped. 36 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: She was able to fight him off, but the obviously 37 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: she had she had injuries. He punched her in the 38 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: face he escaped. He is described as a man with 39 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: a dark complexion between the ages of thirty and forty, 40 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: five foot six inches tall, wearing a sweatshirt and pants. 41 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: That's the full description they gave of him. 42 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: But this is what it's like to be on the 43 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: subway clay for people these days. Twenty nine year old woman, 44 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: some crazy guy pulls his pants down, punches her in 45 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: the face, and tries to rape her right there on 46 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: a that's the Chamber Street sub that's a very crowded, 47 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: very you know, nine o'clock on a Friday night, all right, 48 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: So that's the reality of New York the States. Somebody 49 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: that just happened. Daniel Penny saw a lunatic threatening people, 50 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 2: and so he decided to step in and do something. 51 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: And he's put out a video where he's telling you 52 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 2: this is what it was like on that subway. 53 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: Play it. 54 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 3: You could see in the video there's a clear rise 55 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 3: and fall of his chest indicating that he's breathing. I'm 56 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 3: trying to restrain him from him being able to carry 57 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 3: out the threats. And then some people say that this 58 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 3: was about race, which is absolutely ridiculous. I didn't see 59 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: a black man threatening passengers. I saw a man threatening passengers. 60 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: That's a lot of whom were people of color. A 61 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: man who helped restrain mister Neali was a person of color, 62 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: and a few days after the incident, I read in 63 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 3: the papers that a woman of color came out and 64 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: called me a hero. 65 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 4: What. 66 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: I don't believe that I'm a hero, but she was 67 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: one of those people that I was trying to protect. 68 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: I think, I think that Daniel Penny is a heroic guy. 69 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: He wasn't trying to hill Jordan Neely, He made that clear. 70 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: He says he was just applying the force necessary to 71 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: get him to stop being a threat. And Clay, this 72 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: guy was running around the subway, according to other eyewitnesses, 73 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: threating to kill people and saying he would go to jail. 74 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: And he is a violent criminal with a long criminal history. 75 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: And what is it? 76 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: So the New York DA wants you to wait and 77 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: see if you get stabbed in the face before you 78 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: can do anything. That's the rule now in New York. 79 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 4: Look the reason he got charged because he's white. I mean, 80 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 4: this is the reality. And this to me ties in 81 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 4: with the Trump case as well, Buck, because what we 82 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 4: have is an anecdote and narrative driven justice department in 83 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 4: many parts of this country. And what I mean by 84 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 4: that is it's not the facts, it's not the consistent 85 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: application of justice no matter who the person is. It's 86 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 4: a design and then a search for a narrative to 87 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 4: fulfill the design, And let me explain exactly what I'm 88 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 4: mean by that. When Joe Biden comes out and says 89 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 4: domestic extremism, right wing terrorist, white supremacist are the biggest 90 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 4: threat that exists in this country, he is grabbing his 91 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 4: megaphone and yelling that to every prosecutor and every investigator 92 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 4: anywhere in the country. And if you are told by 93 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: your boss that this is the priority, you are going 94 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 4: to go out and you are going to find evidence 95 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 4: that supports the premise under which he's making the case, 96 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 4: even if it is not justified by the raw data. 97 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: And that's the case with Daniel Penny. 98 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 4: I would submit to you that if this is a 99 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 4: black guy putting that is putting this guy in a 100 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 4: choke hold, none of us ever hear about it. Not 101 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 4: only does this story not result in charges, not one 102 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 4: person listening to us right now even knows it happens, 103 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 4: because black on black violence almost. 104 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:58,679 Speaker 1: Never makes the news. 105 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 4: The only reason this is a story and the only 106 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 4: reason these are charges that were brought is because Daniel 107 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 4: Penny's a white guy. Same thing happened with Donald Trump. 108 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 4: The only reason Donald Trump is getting charged is because 109 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 4: of his political background. 110 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: Right now, You. 111 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 4: Can argue, as we did, that Trump behaved in a 112 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 4: reckless fashion to allow himself to be charged because they 113 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 4: were going through everything he had done with a fine 114 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 4: tooth comb, trying to find something to get him on. 115 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 4: But that is what happens when narrative overtakes justice. Buck, 116 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 4: There's a reason why lady justice is blind. Go look 117 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 4: at the scales of justice. You should not be applying 118 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 4: justice based on the identity of the accused. 119 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 2: There is a huge incentive for the Democrat Party and 120 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: the Democrat machinery to constantly. 121 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: Create this fear of. 122 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: White racist violence all the time, the biggest threat to 123 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 2: the country. Joe Biden went to a historically black college 124 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: and said white nationalism or white supremacy is the biggest 125 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: threat to America right now. That's the President of the 126 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: United States saying that what is this rooted in? Where 127 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: is this actually happening? Well, as we know, it's actually 128 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: quite rare that there is an incident of interracial violence 129 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: where a white person is you know, kills a black 130 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: person in a criminal context. It's actually statistically quite rare. 131 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: Most violent crime is within the same race. But if 132 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: you're looking at interracial crime as Elon Musk shared the 133 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: data on this. It is disproportionately ten to one black 134 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: on white. That's statistics FBI. 135 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: You can look at that. 136 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: The Democrat Party. Remember when Elon shared that, they all, 137 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, he was sharing FBI dot gov data. 138 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: If you want to have a conversation about what's happening 139 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: based on data, I think we should all be able 140 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: to look at and discuss the data. No one denies 141 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: that's the data. You know what they did clar talking 142 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: about intraracialist well, hold on, that was in the conversation. 143 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: The conversation was interracial violence that Elon Musk was winging on. Okay, 144 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: So in this case, though, I think why it's so 145 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: important for Daniel, I mean Daniel Penny. I think it's 146 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: somewhat unusual for someone to make a statement like this 147 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: when they're under indictment, they're facing a manslaughter. 148 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: I would not advise it as an attorney. 149 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, but but he did it, and it's out there 150 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: and here's what he wants every him to know. Though, 151 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: because the media doesn't want people to know this. Jordan 152 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,599 Speaker 2: Neely was not just threatening to murder people. He was 153 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: threatened to murder people including black and brown people on 154 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: that subway car, meaning this was about fellow human beings, right, 155 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: this is about people of all different races. 156 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: This is what he's saying. 157 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 5: Also, one of the individuals who helped hold Jordan Neely 158 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 5: down was a black guy. Yeah, so the narrative of 159 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 5: racism here becomes really complicated. Daniel Penny steps in to 160 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 5: stop a guy from threatening to kill people, including black 161 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 5: and brown people, and the guy who helps him hold 162 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 5: Jordan Neely down. 163 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: Is a black guy. 164 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 2: So the racism narrative, you have to work really hard 165 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: to try to find this as a racist incident, which 166 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 2: is the whole basis for Bragg's prosecution here, and. 167 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: We all know it. 168 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Buck the data actually reflects And again this 169 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 4: goes to the data. 170 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: This is the factual evidence. 171 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 4: And I bet in the back of Daniel Neely's ahead, 172 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 4: even if he doesn't acknowledge it, police are actually less 173 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 4: likely to use violence against black defendants as a percentage 174 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 4: of violent acts. 175 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: It's a big Harvard study they did. They're like, why. 176 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: Would the left takes that and they try to undermine 177 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: that study all the time now, but it was a 178 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 2: big study. 179 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, why would that be the case, it's because 180 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 4: there are I think probably a lot of police listening 181 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 4: to us right now that know that they're going to 182 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 4: be held if you're a white guy to a different 183 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 4: standard if you use violence against a black person, and 184 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 4: you would be if you use violence against a white person. 185 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 4: Because again, Buck, it's not only that Daniel Penny is 186 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 4: getting charged because he's a white guy who choked a 187 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 4: black guy. It's that if he had choked a white 188 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 4: guy out, this wouldn't be a story either, right. The 189 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 4: only way this becomes a story is if a white 190 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: guy does this to a black guy. 191 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: Black guy does it to a black guy. 192 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 4: Nobody pays attention in black on black violence happens so 193 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 4: frequently the. 194 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: Media never covers it. 195 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 4: White crazy guy Daniel Penny puts him in a choke, 196 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 4: Coldeney dies one billion percent, Buck, this. 197 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: Never becomes a story either. 198 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 4: The only reason I would love to hear people who 199 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 4: are in media try to justify this because Buck. The 200 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 4: argument they would make is, well, systemic racism is such 201 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 4: an ever present reality that when we see acts like 202 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 4: these we much call them out and cover them. But 203 00:10:54,320 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 4: to your point, it actually is a wildly outlier incident 204 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 4: that isn't actually representative of danger that exists in New 205 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 4: York City or any city in America. Black people, by 206 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 4: and large have almost nothing to fear from white people 207 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 4: if you just look at it on a data basis. 208 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 4: And by the way, almost none of us have anything 209 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 4: at all to fear from police either. I always like 210 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 4: to use this stat but because it blows people's minds. 211 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 4: You know, if you're an unarmed person in America today, 212 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 4: regardless of your race, but including if you're black, White, Asian, 213 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 4: or Hispanic, you are more likely to be killed by 214 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 4: a bee, wasp, or hornet than you are by a 215 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 4: police officer. That blows people's minds. Unarmed, right, because you're 216 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 4: not then trying to typically create any sort of issue 217 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 4: with a weapon. Would you ever be afraid to walk 218 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 4: outside of your house because you were afraid that you 219 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 4: were going to get stung by a bee and die? 220 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: Of course not. We fear things that aren't real because 221 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: of the media. 222 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: I remember after Ferguson Don Lemon, formerly of CNN said that, 223 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: and he was crying when he said this, that some 224 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: nights when he goes homes hell, when he goes home, 225 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 2: he calls his mom just to let her know that 226 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: he got home safe because he's so scared about police 227 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: violence against him. Don Lemon said that who lives in 228 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: a I don't know. I would just put it out there, 229 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: probably a four or five million dollar apartment on the 230 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: Upper West Side of Manhattan. I think he's okay walking home. 231 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: I don't think the cops are coming for um. But 232 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: you know, but this is this is what it is. 233 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 2: It's a Oh, I'm a victim. 234 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm a victim. It's so scary the cops. A victim 235 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: of the cops. 236 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, there are lunatics running around the city, stabbing people, 237 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: raping people, doing crazy stuff. 238 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 4: But it's the cops and it's white racism. That's the problem. 239 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 4: That's another good one here. Don Lemon connected in some 240 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 4: ways one of ESPN's highest paid announcers. It's a guy 241 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 4: named Mark Jones. He's lost his mind. He's super racist. 242 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 4: In the wake of the George Floyd incident, Buck he 243 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 4: went on social media and he said he would no 244 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 4: longer accept a police escort on college campuses when he 245 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 4: called a game because he didn't know when a police 246 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 4: officer would decide to kill him. 247 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. 248 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: I mean This is a This is a maniacal really 249 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: like a faith based belief that people have bought into 250 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: this cult like ideology of the threat of white racism 251 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 2: killing them or the threat of police killing them. This 252 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: is completely insane. 253 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: Think about that, buck these guys. 254 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 4: For people out there who are sports fans, you get 255 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 4: a police escort so you don't have to sit in 256 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 4: traffic so you can go into the stadium and call 257 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 4: the game, and then you get a police escort when 258 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 4: you leave so you can get to the airport faster. 259 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 4: He said he wouldn't. I don't know if he's accepting 260 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 4: it or not. He said he wouldn't accept the police 261 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 4: escort anymore because he was afraid that a police officer 262 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 4: would kill him. What in the press box while you're 263 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 4: calling a game, when they're helping to dodge you through 264 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 4: all the traffic so you can manage to get in 265 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 4: and out of the stadium, that stays out. 266 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 2: We'll take police escorts anytime, anytime you out go for it. 267 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 4: Anybody wants to give me a police escort anywhere at 268 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 4: any time, I. 269 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: Will gladly accept it. 270 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 4: This is why I wish, by the way, somebody would 271 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 4: just run for president I wish there were a Republican 272 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 4: candidate who would pick up this platform and run on it. 273 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 4: That we need to spend more time in schools not 274 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 4: focused on critical race theory and demeaning and denigrating America, 275 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 4: and just giving people tools that they could actually use. 276 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 4: One of my favorite stats out there. I'm going to 277 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 4: keep beating the drum on this on the show because 278 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 4: I'm hopeful that people are going to pick it up 279 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 4: and run with it. Do you know that if you 280 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 4: graduate from high school, if you get married, and don't 281 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 4: have any children before the age of twenty five, do 282 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 4: you do those three things? 283 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: Think about that. 284 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 4: Those are three things that almost everybody out there can accomplish. 285 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 4: Your poverty rate in America is virtually zero, no matter 286 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 4: what your race, sex, religion, sexuality, none of that, none 287 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 4: of all these identity politics things where people constantly want 288 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 4: to find victims. Do you know if you graduate from 289 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 4: high school, that's something that every kid should be able 290 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 4: to do. Graduate from high school, don't have a kid 291 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 4: before the age of twenty five, and get married. If 292 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 4: you can accomplish those three things, your poverty rate in 293 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 4: America is zero. That's pretty crazy, isn't it. That we 294 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 4: don't just spend more time telling kids in high school, hey, 295 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 4: you know what, it's important to make good decisions and 296 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 4: a lot of different choices in your life. But if 297 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 4: you get three big ones right, graduate from high school, 298 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 4: don't have a kid before twenty five, and get married. 299 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 4: If you can manage to do all three of those things, 300 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 4: which virtually everyone in America should be able to manage, 301 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 4: you will have can't guarantee you're gonna be rich, but 302 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 4: I can virtually guarantee you're not gonna be poor. Doesn't 303 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 4: seem like that high standard, And we're not saying people, hey, 304 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 4: you've got to go get a master's degree in engineering, 305 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: you've got to go to school till you're forty two 306 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,239 Speaker 4: years old and get triple PhDs. 307 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. In reality, you. 308 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 4: Just have to graduate from high school, which isn't that 309 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 4: hard to do, graduate from high school, don't have a 310 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 4: kid before twenty five years old, and get married. Your 311 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 4: poverty rates almost zero. That'd be a heck of a message, 312 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 4: wouldn't it. Personal responsibility, individual work ethic, give kids very 313 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 4: attainable goals. I'm not saying that should be the ceiling. Certainly, 314 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 4: I want people to graduate from high school and go 315 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 4: on to gain much more. But if you just focus 316 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 4: on that and give people attainable goals. Once they attain 317 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 4: those goals, they can try to climb that ladder of 318 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 4: success even more. But just give them those attainable goals 319 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 4: to begin with. Focus on that hammer at home. Personal responsibility, 320 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 4: individual work, ethic freedom. These are the tenets of American 321 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 4: life that lead to success, no matter who you are, 322 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 4: or where you're born, or what your mom or your 323 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 4: daddy did. We don't hear enough about that from our 324 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 4: political leaders. 325 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: I think at some point we're going to have to 326 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: pull together a list of the dumbest things ever said 327 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 2: on the View. It would be it would be a 328 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: fierce competition. We could do like a March Madness bracket 329 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: for like the and have people vote that dumbest things 330 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: ever said on that show. 331 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: Isn't it so interesting? As well? 332 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: ABC likes to take itself Oh my Disney, right, isn't 333 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 2: that right? 334 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 335 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 2: Takes itself very seriously in the news division, and you 336 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 2: know ABC News and George Stefans and the whole thing, right, 337 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 2: it's all, oh, the We're the news for people that 338 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: are just into journalism, and they put this show on 339 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 2: the air every day with no compunction. No uh, no 340 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 2: remorse I think is a better word, whatsoever, where they're 341 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 2: making everyone who watches it dumber. And really they're making 342 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: everyone who watches that show. Uh, you know, you guys 343 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: have all experienced. I'm not gonna lie. I I remember 344 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 2: way back in the day, like before the internet was 345 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: even such a big thing, some of the stuff that 346 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 2: would be I'm not talking about the spicy stuff, but 347 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: some of the stuff that would be on HBO, like 348 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: really late at night. 349 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you know I did. 350 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: I watched Leprekahn for once, okay, like it was leprechan 351 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: in Space, you know Leprechaun movies. 352 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: I'd space. 353 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 2: They made five Leprekahn movies, just see you out. Five 354 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 2: was Leprekahn in the Hood, which I did. At some point, 355 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 2: the tiny Leprechahn was smoking a marijuana cigarette. I want 356 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 2: to get into this. So, but back in the day, 357 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 2: if you had, like if you were in a family 358 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: that had HBO sometimes late at night, you watch things. 359 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 2: You're like, I am getting made dumber by watching this, 360 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 2: Like I'm actually brain cells are dying off and my 361 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: cognition is being slowed by this. 362 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: I think that that happens when people watch the view, 363 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: I really do. 364 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 2: I think that it feeds people talking points that make 365 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 2: them less likely to think that are untrue, and that 366 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: are overall a net negative for discourse. 367 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: I think it serves no purpose. 368 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:46,479 Speaker 2: Other than to make very ill read, ill informed people 369 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: on the left, particularly obviously appealing mostly to women, feel 370 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: better about their ignorance and their prejudices. With that in mind, 371 00:19:54,840 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 2: Joy Behar, Joy Beija here or she is, everybody, I 372 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: just want you to listen to this gem that Joy 373 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: came up with. 374 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: Listen to it. 375 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 6: And he's one of these guys who you know, he's 376 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 6: like Clarence Thomas, black Republican who believes in employing herself 377 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 6: by your bootstraps rather than to me understanding the systemic 378 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 6: racism that African Americans face in this country. Another minoritist. 379 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 6: She doesn't get it. Neither does Clarence, right, and that's 380 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 6: why they're Republicans. 381 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, so, Joy Bahar, white female multimillionaire Joy Bahar knows 382 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 7: more about what it is to be a black man 383 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 7: in America than Senator Tim Scott or Clarence Thomas. 384 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 2: That's quite a that's quite a stretch. I have to 385 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: say that's an interesting one. 386 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 4: Look, Joy Bahar could disagree with Tim Scott's candidacy in 387 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 4: an intelligent fashion if she were not an imbecile. But 388 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 4: this is the kind of racism that actually exists. You 389 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 4: are completely invalidating Tim Scott and Clarence Thomas and their 390 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 4: perspective by saying they don't understand what it's like to 391 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 4: be black men in America. You could disagree with the 392 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 4: pick yourself up by your bootstrap's mantra, which it's worth 393 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 4: mentioning has been a black mantra going all the way back. 394 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: I think to W. E. B. 395 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 4: Dubois back in the day, it may have been pronounced 396 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 4: du voice back in the day. 397 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. 398 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 4: I wasn't an expert in you know, early nineteen hundred's, 399 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 4: late eighteen hundred's black empowerment. But Booker T. Washington, there 400 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 4: are tons of black leaders who have advocated zealously for 401 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 4: generations that the best way for the black, the black uplift, 402 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 4: the best way to build from slavery and develop economic 403 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 4: opportunity is actually through individual self reliance. That has been 404 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 4: an incredibly strong argument for generations in the black experience, 405 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 4: and certainly there are people who would oppose it far 406 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 4: more intelligently than joy Behar. But Buck, this is what 407 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 4: passes for left wing. You heard everybody. I think we 408 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 4: cut it off before the end. But joy Behar was 409 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 4: applauded by that audience. This is, as I believe George W. 410 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 4: Bush said, the soft bigotry of low expectations. The idea 411 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 4: here is that Tim Scott and Clarence Thomas, two very 412 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 4: successful black men. One is Supreme Court justice, the other 413 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 4: a senator, both of whom were raised in extreme poverty, 414 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 4: who have lifted themselves up to among the highest levels 415 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 4: of American government. That they're unique individual experiences and what 416 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 4: they have learned that allowed them to achieve what they 417 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 4: have is somehow not a permissible opinion to have in America. 418 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 4: And also joy Behar's expectation that those men would not 419 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 4: be aware of what racism is or what the cost 420 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 4: of racism can be is also. 421 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: Just It's flagrantly insulting. 422 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 4: But joy Behar said what many different people on the 423 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 4: left believe this is actually racist. 424 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: Where does it also leave people? 425 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: So if you're going to negate and think of what 426 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 2: the real mentality is here, and Clarence Thomas writes about 427 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: this eloquently in his autobiography that the truth the condescension 428 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 2: from white liberals was always the thing that he found 429 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: the most galling, the most just you know, really really 430 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 2: deeply bothered him because they thought it was better and 431 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: it was really just about themselves, right, It's about, Oh, 432 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: you know, I'm a good person, so I want to 433 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: go and give people who are you know, less fortunate, 434 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: give them the oh, oh it's all going to be okay. 435 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 2: The condescension that comes across from from from white liberals 436 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 2: is something that is very common, very present. 437 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: But also where does it. 438 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 2: Leave people to say that if you that you shouldn't 439 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 2: try to be bettering yourself, Like, what what's the what 440 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 2: is the alternate theory of the case here? 441 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 442 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 2: What what is Joy Beyer says, Oh, you know, let's 443 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,959 Speaker 2: pull up your bootstraps thing. What's that all about? Like, 444 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: that's not because of systemic racism? So should people give 445 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: up because of systemic racism? 446 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: Is that? 447 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 2: What is the philosophy that they replace? People that want 448 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: to empower every black man and woman, every person in 449 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 2: the country with individual responsibility your life is in your hands. 450 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 2: Life is not fair, Okay, there's a lot of things 451 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 2: that are not fair. You could say that there even 452 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: if you believe in systemic racism, which I do, but 453 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 2: actually not in the way that the left thinks that 454 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 2: systemic racism exists. 455 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: It's actually in a very different direction. But even if 456 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: you believe in. 457 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 2: Systemic racism, okay, life is unfair, you're going to tell 458 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 2: people to just be a victim, to whine all the time, 459 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 2: to expect other people to fix it for them. Because 460 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 2: there are a lot of people. You know, people are born, 461 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: you know, people are born and into situations where they have, 462 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: you know, serious disease they have to overcome. They're born 463 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: into poverty of all different races. They're born with a 464 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: parent who's an alcoholic and who's abusive, or maybe you 465 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 2: know two parents who are abusive and they have to 466 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 2: overcome that. And you can either tell them it's within 467 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: all of our power to become the best version of 468 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: the human being that he or she is, or you 469 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 2: can say, cry wine despair and maybe Joe Biden will 470 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: fix your life for you. It's just not going to happen. 471 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 2: So it actually just infantilizes everybody, everybody, no doubt, that's 472 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 2: exactly what it does. And it also tries to convince 473 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: people that the government is their savior. Right, I mean, 474 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 2: that's the implicity, and that's the point, right, that's that's 475 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 2: the implicit argument of joy behar. 476 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: Is you, you. 477 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 4: Poor minority in this particular situation, you poor black man, 478 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 4: you poor young black child. You have no hope to 479 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 4: succeed in this country because white supremacy is so overwhelming 480 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 4: and stultifying that it dominates every single aspect of your life. 481 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 4: Thus you must beg for help from your government, which 482 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 4: you don't control. I don't know who came up with 483 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 4: the phrase, but I've been using it, and I try 484 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 4: to use it with my boys as often as I can. 485 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 4: The only the only thing you can control, the only 486 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 4: hand you can rely on, is the one at the 487 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 4: end of your sleeve. Right, somebody may give you help. 488 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 4: I hope it happens. I hope somebody extends their hand 489 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 4: and gives you an opportunity that you wouldn't otherwise receive. 490 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 4: But the only thing that you can rely on, the 491 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 4: only hand that you can rely on, is the one 492 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 4: at the end of your sleeve. And so this idea that, oh, 493 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 4: the government's the great savior, Oh the government's going to 494 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 4: ride in and provide something for you that your own 495 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 4: individual work ethic cannot is a lie. And it's also, 496 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 4: to your point, Buck, such a devastating lie because what 497 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 4: it treats and allows you to believe is that your 498 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 4: failure is entire preordained, right like you have no hope, 499 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 4: no aspirational opportunity in life because of something you didn't 500 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 4: control at birth, which is your race, your gender, who 501 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 4: your parents are, where you started. 502 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: It's totally defeating. 503 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: And this is this is a far less, far less 504 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 2: serious I think than what we're focusing on right now. 505 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: But I come across this and I've I've learned this 506 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: now and you can I never I know who understand 507 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: dan this world very well will agree. Even you know. 508 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 2: Fitness is not fair people have. It is reality. Everyone 509 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: always says, oh, it's about this and that and how 510 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 2: you work. Yeah, that's all true. But some people are gifted, 511 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: some people have more to work with. Some people put 512 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: on muscle faster, some people put on fat faster, some 513 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: people are taller, some people put you know, everyone is 514 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,239 Speaker 2: we are all unique snowflakes. Everyone is different. You can 515 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 2: sit around and complain and be like, why aren't I 516 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: six five and ten percent body fat and have the 517 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: metabolism that, or you can just work the best with 518 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: what you've got and lived the best life you have. 519 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: These are two different philosophies. You can sit around and 520 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 2: complain all day, you know. I mean, Clay and I 521 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 2: wish that we were. 522 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: Just blessed with forever six packs. Well maybe Clay has one, 523 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: but I wish I could dunk a basketball. Buck. 524 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 4: I could have spent every single hour of my youth, 525 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 4: right teenage into my twenties training Remember Jimmy the shoes 526 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 4: that Jimmy on Seinfeld war that we're supposed to make 527 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 4: him like a better. 528 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: Remember the rebock pumps Those were gonna help you jump? Oh, 529 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: I mean everybody got sold. 530 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 4: I mean the idea that if you wear this tennis shoe, 531 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 4: you're gonna be able to jump like Michael Jordan or whatever. 532 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 4: It's a successful marketing ploy, right. But I could have 533 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 4: done everything under the sun. I was never going to 534 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 4: be able to dunk a basketball. I didn't have the 535 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 4: physical ability to do it, right. So I could sit 536 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 4: around and be like oh woe is me? Or like 537 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 4: every other person out there, you try to find something 538 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 4: that you do have a talent in and develop it 539 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 4: to the best of your ability. That's what the goal 540 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 4: of I think about it now, is the goal of 541 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 4: a parent, right, It's what the goal of a teacher 542 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 4: should be. Find unique talents, push kids toward their talent 543 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 4: that allow them to excel. And so this defeating and 544 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 4: we'll play this sunny hostin clip too from the view 545 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 4: when we come back, the left is ultimately selling to 546 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 4: all of your kids and grandkids the idea that they 547 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 4: cannot excel without the help of the government. And that's 548 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 4: a lie. A bunch of people reached out. I meant 549 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 4: to mention this buck not very serious in the grand 550 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 4: scheme of things. Really disappointed that you didn't see the 551 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 4: Fred Savage movie from nineteen eighty nine. 552 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: No, no, no, hold on you, I saw it. 553 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: I just forgot where he's like the video game champ. 554 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: He's playing Mario Brothers. No, no, I know that one. 555 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 4: Super Mario three. I think was when they were officially releasing. 556 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 4: That was like the advertisement for that. I was really disappointed. 557 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 4: I was kind of stunned that. 558 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 2: You didn't immediately. I had forgotten it. I had forgotten it. 559 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,479 Speaker 2: I remember there was a yes in retrospect. I mean, 560 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: there are people who play video games for a living 561 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 2: who have massive social media followings. They have, like, you know, 562 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: lots of fans. 563 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: Do you know this? There there's a whole gamer culture 564 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: out there. These guys make tons of make. 565 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: Crazy money and are like famous in the gamer world. 566 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: I didn't know this is really a thing until a 567 00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: couple of years ago. 568 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 4: Mike, kids watch people play video games all the time 569 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 4: on Twitch. 570 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: Is that where they'll on Twitch? 571 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 4: But also a lot of these guys have YouTube channels 572 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 4: that are really popular to you know, my boys play Minecraft, Madden, FIFA, MLB, 573 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 4: the Show, I mean, all of the Fortnite. 574 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: All of these are wildly popular with my kids. 575 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 4: And there are guys making seven figure salaries just for 576 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 4: instance playing Fortnite. Some guys, I think, making eight figure salaries, 577 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 4: you know, ten million dollars a year to sit around 578 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 4: and play video games. 579 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: It's pretty awesome. Really not a bad life. Say it's 580 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: not bad. 581 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 4: It's tough when you say to your kids, hey, why 582 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 4: don't you stop playing video games and go read a 583 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 4: book instead? 584 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: You can't make it. 585 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 4: You know, like when I was a kid, do you 586 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 4: remember this, Like your parents would be like, you're not 587 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 4: gonna be able to play video games for a living. 588 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 4: And then it was like, you know what, They're true, 589 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 4: Like we're gonna have to find something else to do. 590 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 4: Now the kids are like, Dad, there's tons of people 591 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 4: who play video games for a living, And it's kind 592 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 4: of like as a parent, you step up and you're like, 593 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 4: they're right. 594 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: I had a while ago. I had a lunch. It 595 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: was set up. 596 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: It's a long story, but I had a lunch with 597 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 2: the guy who was the CEO of one of the 598 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: really big gaming companies make some of these games. They 599 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 2: told me like, some of these franchises for these video 600 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 2: games are billion dollar franchise. Oh no, billion with a B. Yeah, 601 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 2: as in that's what they're bringing in in sales in 602 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: a year for a video game. 603 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: Yes, I was. It's amazing. 604 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 4: What blows my mind, too, Buck, is they've gotten the 605 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 4: business now where you pay for different upgraded things in 606 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 4: the game itself. Right, Like you're building let's say you're 607 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 4: Madden franchise, Well, you can get better quality players on 608 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 4: your team based on the tokens that you get. 609 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 1: Both from playing and or buying. 610 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 4: You want a new skin, they call it, right, like 611 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 4: a body that you're playing in if you're playing Fortnite. 612 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 4: These these individual games become so popular that they're basically eighteen. 613 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 4: They're constantly churning out cash and money, not just you know, 614 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 4: back in the day, you used to pay fifty dollars 615 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 4: for a video game or whatever it was, and you 616 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 4: owned it. And by the way, you'd have to get 617 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 4: the video game cartridge on blow on it. 618 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: Do you remember that? 619 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 2: How was it that blowing on Nintendo cartridges somehow worked? 620 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 2: I never it was the dust. I remember like slipping 621 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 2: the video game cartes. Anybody who's roughly within ten years 622 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 2: of our age will remember this. And you put it 623 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: in and you want to play like Double Dragon or 624 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 2: you want to play Mike Tyson's Punch Out, some of 625 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,239 Speaker 2: these great original Nintendo games, and it was like you 626 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: had to touch it and like close it perfectly, and 627 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 2: it was a whole thing just to get the game 628 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 2: to work. 629 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: That's right. 630 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 4: And for some reason for people out there who are 631 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 4: around our age, if you grabbed the cartridge and literally 632 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 4: where like the cartridge went in, you just went I 633 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 4: don't know why it worked, but it did. 634 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: And it may be the dust. I don't know what 635 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: it did. 636 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 4: But if you blew like literally just like you know, 637 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 4: expelled the air on it, blew on a heart like 638 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 4: you were blowing out a birthday cake candle, it would 639 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 4: somehow work and and then you put it back in 640 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 4: and it'll be like good to go. 641 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: What was your favorite original Nintendo game? 642 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 4: Well, the original Original Nintendo, no Super Nintendo, Super Mario Brothers, 643 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 4: the but tech Moobil is the greatest in my opinion, 644 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 4: and then techmo super Bowl or super Techmobil depending on 645 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 4: where you lived, are the two, in my opinion, greatest 646 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 4: sports video games of all time. I loved both, and 647 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 4: super Tech Moobil was my favorite video game of all 648 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 4: time on the eight bit Nintendo. 649 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 2: I may be a double dragon guy, be honest with 650 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 2: original or street. I love the fighting. 651 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 4: Games, Mike Tyson RBI Baseball, Oh man, I loved all 652 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 4: those games. 653 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: And there was. 654 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 2: The there was Blades of Steel where you were it 655 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 2: was a hockey game where you could fight a lot of. 656 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: Rember blades of steel. That was great, great game. 657 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 4: Yes, there's a tremendous scene remember in Swingers, the movie 658 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 4: back in the day where they're playing Blades of Steel 659 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 4: and uh, and you know you could make the guy 660 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 4: bleed if you really beat him in the fight. Like 661 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 4: it wasn't like very graphic, but it was like, oh, 662 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 4: you really won that fight, the guy would like bleed 663 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 4: a little bit on the ice. 664 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 2: I also wanted to bring up of all the nightmare 665 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 2: scenarios you have from an event I've never You've never 666 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 2: been to Burning Man, right, you don't strike me as 667 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 2: a burning Man kind of guy. 668 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: I've been. 669 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 4: I've been to the one in Nashville, like outside of Nashville, 670 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 4: what's it called, like, Uh, I don't. 671 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 1: Know, Bonnaroo. 672 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 2: I've been because a burning Man out in the desert. 673 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 2: People got stuck in an eight hour traffic jam. To 674 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 2: leave Hell for me is a traffic jam that's more 675 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 2: than an hour, and I honestly start to lose my 676 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 2: mind eight hours in a traffic jam, you can't move, 677 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 2: you can't go. 678 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 1: Anywhere I might, I don't know. Things would get ugly. 679 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 4: There's probably a lot of illicit substances involved, and you 680 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 4: probably don't feel that good. Leaving Burning Man would be 681 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 4: a lot of hangovers in other words, and an eight 682 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 4: hour traffic to leave would be awful. They have helicopters 683 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 4: that will fly you in and out. I think i'd 684 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 4: probably be a helicopter guy. No telling what that cost, 685 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 4: but I would rather pay than sit in an eight 686 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 4: hour traffic jam. 687 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: Definitely the way to go.