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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 2: Friday edition of the Clay Travis en Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 2: kicks off now and we are fired up this Friday.

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Speaker 2: We've got a lot going on. Give you a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a roadmap. We've got the Wisconsin State Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court nominee Brad Schimmel joining us in the second hour.

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Speaker 2: It's a big deal up in Wisconsin because if the

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Speaker 2: left winds control of the state Supreme Court there, they're

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Speaker 2: going to redraw congressional maps. We're going to lose a

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Speaker 2: couple of congressional seats, and as you know, we've only

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Speaker 2: got a three seat majority right now, so it is

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Speaker 2: a big deal that we hold the line in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: Also got to hold the line in Florida's sixth where

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Speaker 2: Mike Waltz gave up his seat. We're going to have

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Speaker 2: on that contender on Monday. Try to get the word out,

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Speaker 2: and that really is all of you. All we can

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Speaker 2: do is blast this out across the country onto our

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Speaker 2: five hundred and fifty wonderful affiliate stations, as one does.

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Speaker 1: Clay was great.

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Speaker 2: I walked out of the gym this morning and this

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Speaker 2: guy without even breaking stride because I was hustling to

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Speaker 2: get back to the studio and he's going by me

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Speaker 2: and he just puts his hand up for high five.

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Speaker 2: He goes, I love clam buck Man. Awesome, keep going

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Speaker 2: like he knew I was on the way. So I

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Speaker 2: got a high five here in South Florida. I love

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Speaker 2: it down here. Florida, you are beautiful. Is a great place,

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Speaker 2: and it's all hands on deck in Florida six. To

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Speaker 2: make sure we don't give up that seat. We've also

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Speaker 2: got Kirk Cameron joining. We'll talk to him about entertainment,

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Speaker 2: Disney Wokeness going into a particularly rough period here, which

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Speaker 2: is fantastic. And Steve Hilton, buddy of ours, on his

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Speaker 2: new book on the collapse of California. So we're stacked.

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Speaker 2: We got a ton. I don't even mentioned this one

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Speaker 2: yet though, the deep dive that Brett Baar did last

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Speaker 2: night on Fox News. We'll get into this right away

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Speaker 2: because you need to know what's going on. There's some

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Speaker 2: very important insights, but also additional details about what the

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Speaker 2: plan is here, right so what have they found? But

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Speaker 2: also how long is Elon going to be doing this?

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Speaker 1: What are the.

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Speaker 2: Next steps for this? So let's dive into some of this.

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Speaker 2: So Brett sat down last night with Elon and a

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Speaker 2: bunch of the senior Doge team and they talked about

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Speaker 2: a whole range of things. Let's go to cut two here,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Brett asked him straight up, what is the

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Speaker 2: most astonishing stuff that you have found as you are

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Speaker 2: looking for waste, fraud and abuse in the government?

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Speaker 1: Cut too?

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Speaker 3: What's the most astonishing thing you've found out in this process?

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Speaker 4: The sheer amount of waste importing the government, it is astonishing,

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Speaker 4: It's mind blowing. Just we were teely encounter wastes of

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Speaker 4: a billion dollars or more casually, you know, for example,

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Speaker 4: like the simple survey that was literally ten questions survey

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Speaker 4: that you could do with survey monkey counshu about ten

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Speaker 4: billion dollars for that for just the survey. A billion

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Speaker 4: dollars for a simple online survey do you like the

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Speaker 4: National Park? And then they've hit me no feedback loop

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Speaker 4: for what would be done with that survey. So let's

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Speaker 4: say we're just going to nothing.

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Speaker 1: So much waste to Clay, I really think that we

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Speaker 1: are not giving Elon Musk enough credit for what he

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Speaker 1: has decided to do here. Producer Ali was talking about

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Speaker 1: it off the show earlier. But you're about to have

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Speaker 1: a baby, you and your wife, Carrie. I've got three

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Speaker 1: boys at some point in time. And I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of you think of us as whipper snappers because

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Speaker 1: you're in your sixties or seventies and you're listening to us.

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Speaker 1: But I know that you have been through that evolution,

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Speaker 1: and some of you are younger than us, and you're

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Speaker 1: not going to have seen this worldview yet. But at

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Speaker 1: some point in time, whatever success or failure you might

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Speaker 1: have in your personal life, whatever trials and tribulations you

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Speaker 1: might have personally, you start to recognize. And this is

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Speaker 1: certainly going to be ironic for two guys who gets

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Speaker 1: sit in front of a microphone and talk about our

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Speaker 1: recognize that you're not the centrality of the world. People

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Speaker 1: have this recognition at different points, and that in some way,

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Speaker 1: your job, I like to think, and I think many

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Speaker 1: of you have had this recognition realization is to try

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Speaker 1: They're doing it because they want to set the table

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Speaker 1: I couldn't stop thinking about that, Buck as I watched

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Speaker 1: the Doge interview. Credit to Brett Bayer for sitting down

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Speaker 1: and doing this interview. I don't believe it's possible. Buck.

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Speaker 1: If you got ninety five percent of Americans to sit

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Speaker 1: hard for almost everyone who watches that interview not to

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Speaker 1: say thank you. You guys are doing things that are

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Speaker 1: not particularly partisan in nature. You're just trying to spend

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Speaker 1: all of our money, all of our taxpayer money, in

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Speaker 1: the most expeditious, sufficient manner possible.

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Speaker 2: Imagine for a second that the Treasury was on fire.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was just it had caught fire, and

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Speaker 1: To put out the fire.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't you just say thank you for doing this? No,

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Speaker 2: what Democrats do is they say, you're wasting too much water.

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Speaker 2: Why are you focusing on this area? Why all they

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Speaker 2: do is complain, you know why, because they actually don't

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Speaker 2: want him to succeed. Elon got into this. This is

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Speaker 2: cut seven, Clay. We've been making this point here all along,

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Speaker 2: which is they never tell you what the problem is, right.

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Speaker 2: They always either lie about something that's not happening, or

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Speaker 2: they just say in general, this is unconstitutional, unconstitutional, you

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Speaker 4: Usually when they attack doors, they never attack any of

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Speaker 4: the specifics, so they'll say what we're doing is somehow

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Speaker 4: unconstitutional or legal or whatever. We're like, well, which line

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Speaker 4: of the cost savings do you disagree with? And they

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Speaker 4: you'll see just outrageous things one outrageous thing after another.

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Speaker 1: Clay.

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Speaker 2: They are exposing themselves, the Democrats, all the time, because

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Speaker 2: they don't want this stuff to happen. They benefit, they

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Speaker 2: With all these NGOs and all this nonsense that's been

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Speaker 2: the great self looking ice cream cone. And they have

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Speaker 2: completely exposed themselves here. It's like, what, remember, I asked

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Speaker 2: Senator Rampaul this yesterday, is there a single Senate Democrat

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Speaker 2: who actually wants to cut spending? He said no, flatly, No.

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Speaker 2: They want to take us over the cliff. They do

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Speaker 2: not want this to stop. They do not want the

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Speaker 2: get under control. They're just putting us on a highway

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think we should play a bunch of

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Speaker 1: these cuts again. I give credit to Brett Bayer. I

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Speaker 1: talked about Elon giving back to the government. He didn't

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Speaker 1: need this. He's already got Tesla, he's already got SpaceX,

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Speaker 1: He's got like five different companies that he's running full time.

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Speaker 1: But he says he's got about one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 3: You technically are a special government employee and you're supposed

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Speaker 3: to be one hundred and thirty days. Are you going

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Speaker 3: you're going to do?

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Speaker 4: Or well, I think we will accomplish most of the

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Speaker 3: So in that timeframe one hundred and thirty days, and

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Speaker 5: Days, or not really a report.

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Speaker 4: We are cutting the waste important real time. So every

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Speaker 4: day that passes, our goal is to reduce the waste

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Speaker 4: prod by four billion dollars a day, every day, seven

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Speaker 4: days a week, and so far we are succeeding.

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Speaker 1: Let me also play this buck because you probably are

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Speaker 1: getting some of this. There's a lot of fear mongering

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Speaker 1: going on out there, and I understand a lot of

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Speaker 1: you rely on Social Security if you are past retirement age,

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Speaker 1: There is a great deal of fraud. People try to

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Speaker 1: take advantage of elderly citizens, as you well know, they

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Speaker 1: know what's real and what's not. They said that one

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Speaker 1: of the things they've discovered is people who are Social

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Speaker 1: Security recipients will get more, not less money because of DOGE.

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Speaker 1: And also there is just so much dishonesty out there.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to Cut five first. This is almost half

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Speaker 1: of all phone calls every day to Social Security are

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Speaker 1: from people who are committing fraud, he says, trying to

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Speaker 1: get information flipped so they can start to steal your

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Speaker 1: social Security Cut five.

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Speaker 6: The two improvements that we're trying to make to Social

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Speaker 6: from fraud that they experience every day on a routine basis,

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Speaker 6: and also make the experience better and I'll give you

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Speaker 6: one example is a social security One of the first

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Speaker 6: things we learned is that they get phone calls every

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Speaker 6: day of people trying to change direct positive information. So

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Speaker 6: when you want to change your bank account, you can

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Speaker 6: call sercial security. We learned forty percent of the phone

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Speaker 6: calls that they get are from fraudsters.

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Speaker 5: That's right, almost have.

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Speaker 1: That's staggering, buck And it makes sense, right because they

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Speaker 1: want to get your deposit check direct to their bank

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Speaker 1: accounts and steal your money. And this is why I

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Speaker 1: it's important. Cut three Musk says we're actually protecting social security.

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Speaker 1: Don't listen to the fear mongering.

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Speaker 3: How do you reassure people that what you all are

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Speaker 3: doing is not going to affect their benefits.

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Speaker 4: Now, in fact, what we're doing will help with their benefits.

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Speaker 4: Legitimate people, as a result of the work approach will

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Speaker 4: receive more social security, not less. When emphasize that as

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Speaker 4: a result of the work appage, legitimate recipients of social

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Speaker 4: security will receive more money, not less money. All right,

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Speaker 4: size that point and let the record show that I

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Speaker 4: said this and it will be proven out to be true.

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Speaker 4: Let's check back on this in the future.

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Speaker 1: I just buck when I kept watching this, the amount

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Speaker 1: of waste and fraud and just general incompetence. If you

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Speaker 2: The two biggest things that Trump is doing tackling from

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Speaker 2: I have. We have heated debates in my family. I'm sure,

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Speaker 2: I'm like fixing the TV. Laur Travis is not driving anyway.

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Speaker 2: Can see like you if you let Clay give you

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Speaker 2: a ride to the airport, you're just sort of chatting.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about fun stuff. You know, Clay's very entertaining fellow.

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Speaker 2: And then you just see on the spin on the

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Speaker 2: You're like, is that one hundred and fifteen? Is that

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Speaker 2: what's going on? Because I think that's not the speed limit, Clay.

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Speaker 1: I I will say, in my wife's defense, she is small.

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Speaker 1: She's five two five three. I never really thought about this.

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Speaker 1: Lots of smaller women who drive like SUVs because they

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Speaker 1: have the kids in the car and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: Like they can't actually see over I'm told this is true.

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Speaker 1: They can't actually see over the hood very well. She

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Speaker 1: can't park, like she can't like.

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Speaker 2: You ever like put a couple of phone books on

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Speaker 2: the seat for or something, or what do you do?

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Speaker 1: I mean she does. She has a couple of pillows

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Speaker 1: to try to elevate her so that she can see

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Speaker 1: over the front of like the suv that she drives,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not kidding, like she uses I don't know,

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Speaker 1: do you trust? I don't really trust the cameras, you

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Speaker 1: know that tell you like, hey, are you going to

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Speaker 1: be safe? You can back up? You know, every car

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Speaker 1: now has like a super convoluted camera system. So when

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Speaker 1: you pull into a parking lot and everything else, I

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Speaker 1: don't really trust those things because it feels to me

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Speaker 1: like they beep when you are in no danger whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: You know, the early you're like six feet away from

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Speaker 1: something and it's like bababy babaye, and then there's actually

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Speaker 1: someone behind you and it doesn't do anything like I

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Speaker 1: feel like much of it is flawed, so I don't

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Speaker 1: really trust it. She uses the system a little bit otherwise, buck,

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Speaker 1: Like she tries to pull into a Chick fil A

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Speaker 1: parking lot and she takes like eight spots. I mean,

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Speaker 1: she cannot see the lines to be able to correctly park.

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Speaker 1: And she says it's because the car's too big and

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Speaker 1: she can't see over the hood. I've never had this problem.

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Speaker 1: All right onka, are you ready to talk to ukream

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Speaker 1: war now?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Just making sure so in the Bretbear Elon Musk interview.

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Speaker 2: Elon was passionate on this, and I was I was

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Speaker 2: setting this up before and pointing out that you know,

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Speaker 2: some of you have been telling us you don't understand

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Speaker 2: Russia's the AGGRESSI no, we understand Russia's the aggressor. Well,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing about that that we don't understand. We understand

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Speaker 2: Russia's is the bad guy. We understand that Putin is

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Speaker 2: is a you know, machiavellian in the worst sense.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Probably, you know, he's a malignant narcissist. I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of bad stuff you could say about him.

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Speaker 2: He's an authoritarian, et cetera, et cetera. All true. We

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Speaker 2: get that. Okay, there's not and yet we want the

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Speaker 2: war to end. And the people that pretend like they

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Speaker 2: have a better idea than ending the war never have

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Speaker 2: an answer for what do they want to do? They

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Speaker 2: wanted to keep fighting. Here's what Elon says about this mentality.

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Speaker 2: He said it about specifically Senator Mark Kelly, who talks

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Speaker 2: a big game play it.

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Speaker 4: There will be a negotiated peace. And the thing that

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Speaker 4: we should be concerned about is we should have empathy

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Speaker 4: for the thousands of people that are not every day

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Speaker 4: in trenches for no movement in the in the lines,

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Speaker 4: so the borders remained the same for the past two years.

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Speaker 4: Thousands of people have died every week for nothing, for what?

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Speaker 4: And I take great offense at those who those who

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Speaker 4: put the appearance of goodness over the reality of it.

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Speaker 4: Those who virtue signal and say, oh, we can't give

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Speaker 4: in too Russia, but have no solution to stopping thousands

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Speaker 4: of kids die every day. They just want that to

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Speaker 4: continue forever. Have contempt for such people. I don't want

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Speaker 4: to make that clear. Yeah, so you're because they're butt

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Speaker 4: you signaling and their lack of a solution means that

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Speaker 4: kids don't have a father. It means that parents lost

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Speaker 4: a son for what.

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Speaker 1: Nothing. I think that's really well said, and I think

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Speaker 1: it goes to the morality that's actually in bed in

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Speaker 1: this argument. You and I talked about this on the

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Speaker 1: show when everybody was suddenly angry at jd Vance and

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump for how the meeting in the Oval Office

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Speaker 1: went with Zelenski. I still have yet to see anyone

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Speaker 1: argue to me that Ukraine can win this war. And

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Speaker 1: if they can't, then why are these people dying.

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Speaker 2: You know, I was trying to think of good things

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Speaker 2: to watch lately because we've been talking and we've been

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Speaker 2: trashing Snow White, which everybody is.

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Speaker 1: It's like the worst movie on IMDb ever now rated.

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Speaker 1: It's getting completely destroyed. It deserves it. McClay.

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Speaker 2: I watched Surviving Blackhawk Down the last few days, which

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Speaker 2: is somebody who read the Mark Boden book and then

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Speaker 2: saw the movie. And I've probably seen that movie fifty times,

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Speaker 2: and every Special Forces and every Special Operations guy I

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Speaker 2: know says that's the most realistic war movie for that

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Speaker 2: era they've ever seen. Really interesting context from the Surviving

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Speaker 2: black Hawk Down. Sorry, I'm gonna tie this in a second.

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Speaker 2: The other thing that I've seen not long ago on

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Speaker 2: Netflix that I thought was really, really good was the

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Speaker 2: All Quiet on the Western Front movie that they did.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen that one? You told me that was good,

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Speaker 2: and well, well, it's it is. And I find World

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Speaker 2: War one fact. Everyone World War two is like the

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Speaker 2: great evil of the world being defeated by America. Yes, everyone,

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Speaker 2: World War two gets a tremendous amount of historical focus,

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Speaker 2: and with good reason. World War one is is fascinating

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Speaker 2: and also horrific. And what you get from all quiet

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Speaker 2: on the Western front is there are phases at which

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Speaker 2: this war is over, basically, and everyone knows it, and

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Speaker 2: they need to figure out what they're gonna do, the

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Speaker 2: people in charge. But because they're not willing to make

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Speaker 2: some of the last concessions or whatever, there are some

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Speaker 2: final offensives where people are you know, cutting half by

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Speaker 2: machine gun fire and burned to death by you know,

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Speaker 2: by flamethrowers and artillery rounds and you know, chemical weapons,

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Speaker 2: and it's horrific and it shouldn't happen, and it's in

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Speaker 2: the final days and there's something awful about that. And

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Speaker 2: so what Elon's I think referring to here is, oh,

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Speaker 2: what we're going to give Ukraine another six months to

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Speaker 2: try to get a little more land here? How many

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Speaker 2: tens of thousands of young men killed?

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Speaker 1: Is that worth? On both sides? War is always hell,

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Speaker 1: But dying in a war after it's always already been

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Speaker 1: decided as indefensible. And whatever you think about the war

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Speaker 1: in Ukraine and Russia, it's been decided. Russia is going

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Speaker 1: to gain territory. As I said, we're just arguing about

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Speaker 1: where the wine is going to be drawn at this point,

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Speaker 1: How in the world can anybody justify any death or

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Speaker 1: any dying that's occurring in this war at this point

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Speaker 1: in time, we should have an immediate ceasefire and it

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Speaker 1: seems beyond any doubt. And for people who are arguing

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Speaker 1: on the other side, they're actually the immoral ones. I

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Speaker 1: think at this point, well, this is what I think

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Speaker 1: why Elon was so and I agree with him. Look,

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Speaker 1: Elon's done a lot for Ukraine. Ukraine has only been

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Speaker 1: able to have communications and which is absolutely essential for

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Speaker 1: this war, which is really a lot of it is

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Speaker 1: coordinating artillery and drones. That's really what this trench warfare is.

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Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of the footage of it and

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Speaker 1: reading about it, and it's because of Starlink that they

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Speaker 1: even had communications. So Elon has done more for the

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Speaker 1: Ukrainian Once again, isn't this fascinating? The people who are

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Speaker 1: so Slava Ukrainian have the flags and everything, they're trashing Elon. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: Elon's done more than all of them combined, all of

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Speaker 1: them combined, for the Ukrainians, and he wants the war

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Speaker 1: to end. And they want to say that you're selling

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Speaker 1: out to Russia, your Putin's puppet. These people are intellectually

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Speaker 1: and morally unserious. It's totally true. By the way, we'll

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Speaker 1: take some of your calls. We've got loaded guest situation here.

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Speaker 1: Big battle going on in Wisconsin that could determine the

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Speaker 1: fate of the House majority. We'll discuss all that and more.

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Speaker 1: Plus we've got Kirk Cameron, legendary nineteen eighties TV star

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Speaker 1: in studio. I think producer ally has gotten dressed up

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Speaker 1: again because he was her crush in nineteen eighty six.

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Speaker 1: And Steve Hilton will join us. Good dude thinking about

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Speaker 1: running for governor of California. We'll talk about his latest book.

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Speaker 1: All that's still to come in the Friday edition of

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Speaker 1: the program. The meantime, can't get to Hillsdale College. Quite

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be listening to one of these Hillsdale College lectures.

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Speaker 7: Geek out with the guys on the Sunday Hang with

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Speaker 1: Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show, our number two

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Speaker 1: Friday edition of the program. We are happy to be

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Speaker 1: hanging out with you and we've been talking about I know,

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Speaker 1: we just had an election in November. We've got a

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Speaker 1: couple of big special elections to pick congressmen in Florida's

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Speaker 1: first and sixth congressional district that are important. On Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: we also have a major judicial election in the state

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Speaker 1: of Wisconsin probably the number one battleground state in all

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Speaker 1: the nation. Right now, Wisconsin decided by thirty thousand votes

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Speaker 1: for President Trump. Every single Senate seat comes down to

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Speaker 1: the margins. Our friend Derek Hovedy lost by a tiny pinprick,

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Speaker 1: our friend Ron Johnson won by a small margin up there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is just an absolute battleground of all battlegrounds.

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Speaker 1: And we are joined now by the latest battleground race,

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Speaker 1: which is the Republican side, Judge Shimmel running for reelection,

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Speaker 1: running for election to the Wisconsin Supreme Court. For people

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Speaker 1: out there, Judge Shimmel, who don't understand what the stakes are.

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Speaker 1: All over the country, money is being spent on this race.

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Speaker 1: But certainly everybody in Wisconsin needs to get out and

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Speaker 1: vote because we know this is going to be close.

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Speaker 1: We've got a monster audience in Wisconsin. We love all

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Speaker 1: of you. We hung out with you at the RNC,

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Speaker 1: have had a fabulous time. Judge Shimmel. What do they

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Speaker 1: need to know about this race and its importance?

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Speaker 8: Well, first off, it's great to be on with you.

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Speaker 8: I am part of that major audience in Wisconsin. Every day,

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Speaker 8: my launch break between my morning trial calendar, and afternoon

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Speaker 8: trial calendar. I've got you guys tuned in every day.

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Speaker 1: So it'scit for that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, what's at stake today? What's that stake in this race?

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Speaker 8: The Liberals have taken over the Wisconsin Supreme Court and

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Speaker 8: they are using it as a way to take over

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Speaker 8: the United States Congress. Right now, my opponent was on

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Speaker 8: a national zoom call with billionaire liberal donors from across

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Speaker 8: the country offering up if she gets on the court,

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Speaker 8: she will turn two Republican congressional seats into Democrat congressional seats.

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Speaker 8: And now the House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries just earlier

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Speaker 8: this week confirmed the same thing. They're using this court

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Speaker 8: to change the district maps for congressional seats to jerrymander

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Speaker 8: them in two seats that are better for Democrats. You know,

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Speaker 8: the really interesting thing is, as Hakim Jeffries complained about

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Speaker 8: these maps in Wisconsin, you said they were jerrymandered. The

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Speaker 8: maps in Wisconsin for our congressional seats were drawn by

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Speaker 8: Democrat Governor Tony Evers. These aren't Republican maps. But what

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Speaker 8: they're learning, what they've found out, is that they move

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Speaker 8: the maps to make them harder for Republicans, and those

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Speaker 8: Republicans still won because they're because Democrat ideas, the liberal

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Speaker 8: ideas are not prevailing with Wisconsin voters. We're tired of

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Speaker 8: this nonsense. Well they got that, they got it handed

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Speaker 8: back to them last November. So now they're going to

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Speaker 8: work harder to make these seats even tougher by using

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Speaker 8: the court to do it. That's why this got nationalized.

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Speaker 2: What would also have what were the other implications for Obviously,

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Speaker 2: the congressional issue is front and center right now. My

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Speaker 2: understanding is Elon is going to be helping the campaign

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Speaker 2: in this and this is truly getting national level attention

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Speaker 2: right now because Wisconsin such an important state, such a

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Speaker 2: critical swing state for both congressional control in the midterms

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Speaker 2: and then as we know, in the next election cycle,

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Speaker 2: Wisconsin is going to be a battleground again. In addition

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Speaker 2: to the congressional gerrymanderin concern what are some of the

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Speaker 2: other things that will come before this court and if

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Speaker 2: it were a left leaning court, could be problems to

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Speaker 2: take Wisconsin in the wrong direction, whether it's just in

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Speaker 2: the day to day business of it or in the

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Speaker 2: next presidential election cycle.

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Speaker 8: Well, this court's already been messing with voter integrity laws.

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Speaker 8: They created a new way of looking at our Wisconsin

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Speaker 8: statute that permits these ballot drop boxes that can be

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Speaker 8: put out. The legislature did not authorize that. This court

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Speaker 8: decided they want them because it opens up opportunities for fraud.

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Speaker 8: It opens up all sorts of opportunities for ballot harvesting,

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Speaker 8: which would be illegal in Wisconsin. But those are the

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Speaker 8: things they want. They want to get rid of that.

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Speaker 8: We have got major battles dealing with the relative powers

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Speaker 8: between the legislative and executive branch in Wisconsin. Similar to

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Speaker 8: what's going on at the national level between President Trump

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Speaker 8: battling out between what is his authority as the chief

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Speaker 8: executive versus what some of these district courts are doing.

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Speaker 8: We're seeing those same kind of battles happening in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 8: They're going to go after our voter id law. They're

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Speaker 8: going to go after our if we call it Act ten.

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Speaker 8: It's a law that you may remember back in twenty eleven,

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Speaker 8: all those huge protests at the Wisconsin Wisconsin Capital, those

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Speaker 8: are over Act ten. Act ten put some limits on

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Speaker 8: the negotiating powers of public employee unions has nothing new

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Speaker 8: with private sector unions, just public employee unions who were

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Speaker 8: effective for negotiating with themselves. We're looking estimates say that

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Speaker 8: that's going to cost Wisconsin taxpayers. Well, we've saved that

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Speaker 8: law has saved them in over thirty billion dollars. We're

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Speaker 8: looking at that being turned right back to taxpayers if

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Speaker 8: that comes down. These are the issues that are going

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Speaker 8: to be in front of this court. The opponent was

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Speaker 8: the lead lawyer going after Act ten when she was

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Speaker 8: in private practice, she was a lead lawyer going after

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Speaker 8: our voter ID law. She called it raconian. These are

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Speaker 8: all issues that are going to end up in this court.

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Speaker 8: And she's out signaling file these lawsuits and you'll get

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Speaker 8: a good turnout.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Judge Brad Schammel. If Trump's voters turn out,

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Speaker 1: you will win. Democrats very often are better at the

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Speaker 1: special elections, at these non traditional let's call it that

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Speaker 1: voting times. What is your message to people out there

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Speaker 1: who voted for Donald Trump and want Trump's agenda to

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Speaker 1: be implemented, because, as you said, if they rewrite these

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Speaker 1: house districts, basically what Democrats are doing is they're thinking

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Speaker 1: we'll take away the House from Republicans and that will

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Speaker 1: be the roadblock to Trump's agenda. Have I gotten that right?

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Speaker 1: But I think that's important for you to kind of

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Speaker 1: lay out for people who may not understand the larger

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Speaker 1: stakes here.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. I think that's why President Trump has weighed in

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Speaker 8: on this race. When we talked last Friday before he

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Speaker 8: announced his endorsement, he asked me straight up, Brad, what

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Speaker 8: do you think about activist judges? And they told him,

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Speaker 8: mister President, the whole reason I'm running is to end

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Speaker 8: the reign of activist judges on our Wisconsin Supreme Court.

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Speaker 8: We have to restore our courts to objectivity, judges who

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Speaker 8: will follow the law, not make the law from the bench.

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Speaker 8: And that was when President Trump said, were good, then Brad,

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Speaker 8: you've got my phone complete endorsement. We have to prevent

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Speaker 8: the movement that is restoring America from bypassing Wisconsin because

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Speaker 8: we've got partisan judges on our Supreme Court who are

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Speaker 8: just doing everything they can just put up a roadblock

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Speaker 8: to everything that conservatives try to do to make our

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Speaker 8: states stronger and better and more prosperous and safer. My

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Speaker 8: opponent is a horrible Madison leftist who has had a

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Speaker 8: terrible record on criminal sentence, saying she goes way back.

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Speaker 8: She was chief legal counsel for former Democrat Governor Jim Doyle,

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Speaker 8: who did a lot of damage to our state. She

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Speaker 8: was leading the charge on all that as his attorney.

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Speaker 2: Were speaking to Brad Shimmel, Judge Shimmel, who is running

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Speaker 2: for this critical Wisconsin State Supreme Court seat, and this

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Speaker 2: election is coming up in just a matter of days.

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Speaker 2: It is very tight right now, and it's very important.

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Speaker 2: We're not just the future of Wisconsin as a state,

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Speaker 2: but the future of the United States Congress and the

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Speaker 2: control thereof for the Trump agenda. So as goe with Wisconsin,

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Speaker 2: perhaps so goe with the Congress. It's very important for

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Speaker 2: all of us to understand what these stakes are and

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Speaker 2: to that end. To that end, Judge Shimmel, I'm wondering

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Speaker 2: what kind of money are the Democrats thrown into this,

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Speaker 2: and what are some of the We know that this

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Speaker 2: is one of these situations where they're going to pretend, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's just all about Wisconsin from the Democrat side, But

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Speaker 2: they're getting New York money, Hollywood money, all over the

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Speaker 2: country they're piling in. I'm sure, So what are the

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Speaker 2: numbers like, and what are you seeing?

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Speaker 8: How about this number? Four out of five donors to

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Speaker 8: my opponent don't live in Wisconsin. There we go, that's crazy,

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Speaker 8: that is shocking, right, But another number that's great for me.

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Speaker 8: I've got over seventy five percent of the sitting sheriffs

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Speaker 8: in Wisconsin are publicly endorsing, meaning Democrat and Republican sheriffs

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Speaker 8: because they know my work as attorney general and as

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Speaker 8: a former district attorney in one of our biggest counties

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Speaker 8: in the state. I've got every single law enforcement organization

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Speaker 8: in Wisconsin's publicly endorsing my campaign. That means the organization's

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Speaker 8: representing over sixteen thousand frontline law enforcement officers are publicly

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Speaker 8: backing me. She's got out of state people trying to

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Speaker 8: buy this Supreme Court. I've got the people who take

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Speaker 8: care of public safety in our state who are backing me.

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Speaker 1: We've got people listening all over the state of Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: but in particular wisn are incredible affiliated in Milwaukee, We've

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Speaker 1: been number one for a long time. They do phenomenal work.

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Speaker 1: Jude Schimill, do you think people out there are aware

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Speaker 1: enough of what's going on with this race. Do you

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Speaker 1: get the sense that the base is in the same

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Speaker 1: way they were in twenty twenty four aware of the stakes,

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Speaker 1: or even with that money that's being spent, a lot

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Speaker 1: of it against you. Do you think that a lot

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Speaker 1: of people still don't realize the state at play here

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Speaker 1: and even the fact that this race is happening.

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Speaker 8: I knew that it was going to be tough to

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Speaker 8: get that men's message to penetrate that this April election

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Speaker 8: is every bit is important as November. So I got

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Speaker 8: in this race sixteen months before election day to make

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Speaker 8: sure I got campaigned in all seventy two counties of

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Speaker 8: our state I have. I'm traveling constantly for this last

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Speaker 8: sixteen months, going and getting face to face with voters,

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Speaker 8: and I think it's worked. I've never seen conservatives this

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Speaker 8: fired up about a court race. They get it. We're

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Speaker 8: doing six to eight rallies every day, and at these

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Speaker 8: rallies we're getting huge turnouts. I ask people if you

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Speaker 8: lost any of your energy from November fifth, and they

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Speaker 8: all yell out, no way, not announced. We are with you, Brad.

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Speaker 8: We're fired up. And here's the great news. All we

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Speaker 8: have to do because this race has so much smaller

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Speaker 8: turnout than November elections. If we turn out sixty percent

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Speaker 8: of President Trump's voters from November fifth, I'll win. This

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Speaker 8: thing is not a bad number to have to hear.

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Speaker 2: No, do anything you want, anything you want to tell

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Speaker 2: anybody about the day, the voting, voting hours, the website

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Speaker 2: to go to to contributor help out or anything like that.

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Speaker 2: We just we got a huge audience Wisconsintricty WI SN

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Speaker 2: number one.

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Speaker 1: There. Thank you all wis N listeners.

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Speaker 2: What do people need to know to make sure we

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Speaker 2: get this done and bring you over the finish line?

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Speaker 8: Well, check us out at shimmelforjusice dot com, s C

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Speaker 8: com and you can find out how you can help

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Speaker 8: us make sure we bring home to win. Today is

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Speaker 8: you can still go vote early today in most communities

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Speaker 8: in Milwaukee, they can vote all the way through the weekend,

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Speaker 8: but most communities can't afford to have clerks work all weekend.

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Speaker 8: So for most of my most of your listeners, today

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Speaker 8: is the last day to vote early and then on Tuesday,

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Speaker 8: and we've got to get this done. This is going

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Speaker 8: to be easy. There's the lines will be short, there

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Speaker 8: will nothing bad is going to happen, and you're going

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Speaker 8: to be able to wake up on April second feeling

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Speaker 8: great that you are part of a movement that's going

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Speaker 8: to save our state, just like they were part of

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Speaker 8: a movement to save our nation back on November fifth.

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Speaker 8: We've got to do this again, and this is a

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Speaker 8: turnout race. Got to get our people out. Every vote

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Speaker 8: is going to count. You talked earlier about how close

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Speaker 8: some of our races are. This one is going to

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Speaker 8: be absolutely as tight as all those previous races. Show

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Speaker 8: up and we'll get this done.

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Speaker 1: Judge Shimmel, get it done for him. We appreciate you listening,

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Speaker 1: and we love all of you in Wisconsin. We're asking

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Speaker 1: you one more time keep the battle going and help

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Speaker 1: keep Donald Trump able to do the job that you

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Speaker 1: elected him to do as the chief executive. Judge. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: have a good weekend and good luck on Tuesday.

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Speaker 8: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Take care, Judge Bradshimmel, Wisconsin, Wisconsin Natives. You did it

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Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Our friend Steve Hilton

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Speaker 2: joins us now. He's a political commentator. You know him

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Speaker 2: from Fox. He's an author as well. New book out

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Speaker 2: this week, Cali Failure, Reversing the Ruin of America's worst

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Speaker 2: run State.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Steve, great to have in the program.

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Speaker 5: Hi, guys, great to be with you. What fun? Can

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Speaker 5: I tell you what a pleasure it is?

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Speaker 9: And guess who wouldn't have me on his new podcast

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Speaker 9: to talk about whether or not California is the worst

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Speaker 9: run state in America?

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Speaker 5: Gavin Newsom. What a shame. But it's very good to

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Speaker 5: be here with you.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're not surprised that Gavin Newsom wouldn't have you

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Speaker 2: have you on, given that you recognize the problems not

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Speaker 2: just of California but specifically of Gavin Newsom's leadership. But

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Speaker 2: I wonder, Steve, is it just the way it's going

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Speaker 2: to be there? I mean, one of the problems that

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Speaker 2: we see is the willingness to suffer for ideological reasons,

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Speaker 2: and some of these democrat enclaves definitely in the case

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Speaker 2: of cities like San Francisco, for example, or even New

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Speaker 2: York unfortunately, is much higher than a lot of people

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Speaker 2: would imagine.

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Speaker 9: Well, you're right, and the ideological is the word. That

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Speaker 9: is why we're in such a mess, you know, with

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Speaker 9: the highest rate of poverty, the highest housing cost, the

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Speaker 9: lowest home ownership, highest cost for gas, electricity, water, everything,

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Speaker 9: it's a disaster, the worst business climate.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's the point.

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Speaker 9: Really, which is that of course across the country we

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Speaker 9: see the video of the unbelievable homeless encampments and people

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Speaker 9: wandering are like zombies, and the crime and toothpaste locked

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Speaker 9: up in walgreens and now the fires, and people see

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Speaker 9: all that, but actually the underlying problems are even worse.

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Speaker 9: It's a failure on every front, and people have been

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Speaker 9: putting up with it, and it's driven by ideology. And

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Speaker 9: that's one of the things in the book I go

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Speaker 9: into a love What is this ideology? It's not enough

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Speaker 9: to just to call it leftism. There's so many different

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Speaker 9: components to it, and we've got to understand it because

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Speaker 9: it's going to spread across the country. That's what's been happening.

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Speaker 9: And if you look at where the Democrats are today,

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Speaker 9: that seems to be where they're gravitating the Bernie AOC thing.

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Speaker 9: That's where the energy is. That's what we've got in California.

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Speaker 9: Now to your question about change, I think people are

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Speaker 9: waking up. You saw even before the fires, if you

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Speaker 9: look at the results last November in the presidential election,

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Speaker 9: even without obviously competing in California, particularly because you're never

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Speaker 9: going to get the electoral votes, Donald Trump got more

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Speaker 9: votes than any Republican for a generation in California. You

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Speaker 9: saw ten counties flip from blue to red, including big

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Speaker 9: counties like Fresno County, the fifth biggest city. And now

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Speaker 9: with the fires. I mean I meet people all the

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Speaker 9: time in Los Angeles. Yeah, Democrats Independence say we can't

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Speaker 9: go on like this. It is just obvious that we

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Speaker 9: need a check, we need some balance. It's been this

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Speaker 9: one party rule for so long. We've got to get

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Speaker 9: some common sense ideas back in there.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you coming on, Steve, but can I talk about

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Speaker 1: this a lot. It's not just that California has fallen apart.

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Speaker 1: It's that and I'm curious what your experience was growing

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Speaker 1: up and what you thought about California. I just came

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Speaker 1: back from San Francisco. It is a beautiful geographic jewel,

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Speaker 1: the likes of which there are not very many of

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Speaker 1: anywhere in the world. La obviously nearly perfect climate. You

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Speaker 1: go on up the coast, Seattle, Portland. It's that left

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Speaker 1: leaning ideas have destroyed some of the most beloved communities

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Speaker 1: in much of the country. What did you think about

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Speaker 1: California as a kid growing up far from California and

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Speaker 1: when did your perception start to change? Because I remember

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Speaker 1: as a college kid, I had never been to California before.

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Speaker 1: I remember going out I don't know, probably two thousand thereabouts,

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Speaker 1: and just being blown away by how spectacular it was.

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Speaker 1: It seems to have really fallen apart only in the

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Speaker 1: last ten or fifteen years, and I know many Californians

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Speaker 1: who will live there feel the same way.

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Speaker 9: So I'll tell you a story about that. So I

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Speaker 9: was totally inspired. I was in the way I put it.

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Speaker 9: I was in love with California even before we moved here.

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Speaker 9: We moved in twenty to twelve. I got my citizenship

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Speaker 9: four years ago. So now I'm a proud American but

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Speaker 9: also a proud Californian. I love California. In fact, there's

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Speaker 9: the story about this is back in the day when

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Speaker 9: I was working for David Cameron, this is before he

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Speaker 9: became Prime Minister, and I was leading our policy development,

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Speaker 9: our political strategy, and there was a cover story in

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Speaker 9: the Spectator magazine. We all know the Spectator website here

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Speaker 9: in America. It's actually a printed magazine, the oldest in

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Speaker 9: the world, actually the political magazine in the UK. They

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Speaker 9: did a cover story on the direction that we were

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Speaker 9: working on for the Conservative Party, and the headline on

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Speaker 9: the story was California Dreaming, and the first lines go

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Speaker 9: on about Steve Hilton, David Cameron's policy guru, is inspired

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Speaker 9: by California and the theme of their policy work is

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Speaker 9: to make the UK more like California. Like this is

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Speaker 9: that fifteen twenty years ago, And the question is is

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Speaker 9: there any political advisor to any politician anywhere in the

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Speaker 9: world who would want to make their country more like

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Speaker 9: California today? And it shows you just how far we've fallen,

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Speaker 9: how quickly with this far left ideology.

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Speaker 5: Dominant in California.

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Speaker 9: But actually the point is all the problems of California

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Speaker 9: are self inflicted and we can turn it around. And

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Speaker 9: actually part two of the book is called Caliphailure, but

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Speaker 9: Part two of the book is called Califuture, and that

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Speaker 9: is my plan for how we actually turn things around

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Speaker 9: and restore California to what it should be, which is

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Speaker 9: the best of America, not the worst, which is what

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Speaker 9: it is now.

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Speaker 2: Now you didn't go on Gavin Newsom's podcast, but I

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Speaker 2: want you to the degree that you can be as

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Speaker 2: objective as you can in telling us, is this guy

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Speaker 2: going to be the leader of the Democrat Party in

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Speaker 2: the next election cycle? Do you see him being able

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Speaker 2: to swindle enough people in the middle that he's able

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Speaker 2: to rise through the ranks and go from being governor

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Speaker 2: to presidential nominee, Because from what I see, he has

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Speaker 2: had some right wing people on his podcast, and he's

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Speaker 2: not abandoning the crazy left positions, but he's at least

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Speaker 2: putting on a show of I'll have a conversation. I'm

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Speaker 2: not that crazy.

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Speaker 9: Exactly, And I think you should not underestimate him. I

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Speaker 9: know him a little bit obviously watched him closely. And

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Speaker 9: that's the point about him, is that he is like

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Speaker 9: Kambala Harris before, like Joe Biden, like Karen Back. You know,

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Speaker 9: these are machine politicians, Okay they and they will say

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Speaker 9: whatever is politically expedient. But Gavin Newsom says it better

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Speaker 9: than most, and so don't underestimate him in a way.

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Speaker 9: That's why I wanted not partly why I wanted to

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Speaker 9: write the book is like, this is the record that

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Speaker 9: he's presided over. It's a total failure on every front.

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Speaker 9: So yes, you can talk, I mean a good example

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Speaker 9: the difference between talk and action. So he's on, you know,

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Speaker 9: as Charlie kirk On and agrees how unfair is deeply unfair?

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00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 9: Was his phrase about, you know, met biological men and

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00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 9: girls sports. What's he doing about it?

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Speaker 5: Nothing?

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Speaker 9: He's the governor Now. Next week in the state legislature

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Speaker 9: there are two bills up for vote that would stop

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Speaker 9: this madness? Is he going to weigh So far, he's

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Speaker 9: avoided even talking about it. So you've got to pin

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Speaker 9: him down on the actions. And the actions that have

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Speaker 9: happened in California have been a complete disaster.

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Speaker 1: Putting out fires seems like maybe the number one thing

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Speaker 1: that people would expect the government to be capable of

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Speaker 1: and expect the government to be responsible for the fire

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Speaker 1: situation in the Los Angeles area seems to have been

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Speaker 1: for many people a recognition that the policy choices they

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Speaker 1: make Karen Bass, for instance, as mayor have consequences. Do

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Speaker 1: you get the sense that that could change political voting

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Speaker 1: behavior or is it so ideologically committed at this point

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Speaker 1: that people would have to recognize that they made poor choices,

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Speaker 1: and lots of people don't want to acknowledge mistake. How

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Speaker 1: do you get them to change and how the fires

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Speaker 1: potentially impact Well, that's the.

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Speaker 9: Job of campaigning and to bring that home. I mean,

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Speaker 9: I can tell you right now I'm working with Nicole

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Speaker 9: Shanahan on a recall campaign for Karen Bass, because every

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Speaker 9: day that she's there is a disaster. And one of

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Speaker 9: the reasons that we're doing that is to is to

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00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 9: show if we can, if we can pull it off,

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Speaker 9: that the Democrat machine in California, that kind of Democrat

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00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 9: industrial complex of the unions that fund the politicians and

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00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 9: the far left activists and the bureaucrats and all that,

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Speaker 9: that it can be beaten and if we can do

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Speaker 9: it there in Los Angeles for Karen Bass, I think

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Speaker 9: that's a very encouraging sign that people are ready for change.

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Speaker 5: Look, if we don't put it off, I still think

1031
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 5: we should. We need to fight.

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Speaker 9: We need to make sure that people understand. I'll give

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Speaker 9: you a story which really encouraging. Huntington Beach not the

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Speaker 9: biggest city in California, an iconic one serf city USA.

1035
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Speaker 9: So just over four years ago, the council in Huntington

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Speaker 9: Beach was six' to One. DEMOCRAT a friend of, Mine Tony,

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Speaker 9: strickland put together a team of strong. Candidates they in

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty, two they took control of the council four

1039
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Speaker 9: to three on a very strong conservative. Platform they then

1040
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Speaker 9: implemented that they had a lot of, energy just like

1041
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Speaker 9: you're seeing From President trump right. Now they cleaned up the,

1042
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Speaker 9: streets they cleaned homeless, Encompents they prosecuted, Crime they dealt

1043
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Speaker 9: with the nonsense in the schools and the. Libraries they

1044
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Speaker 9: actually put in a ballot initiative for VOTER id which

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Speaker 9: passed then In.

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Speaker 5: November just, now in.

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00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 9: Twenty twenty, four they put forward seven candidates as a.

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Speaker 9: Slate they called themselves The Magnificent seven to show you

1049
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Speaker 9: where they were coming.

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Speaker 5: From they had a clean.

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Speaker 9: Sweep they won all the, seats so in four years

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00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 9: that city has gone from six to One democrat control

1053
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 9: to seven Zero. Republican so it shows what it can

1054
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 9: be done if you actually, fight AND i think that's

1055
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Speaker 9: what we need to show Cross. California that's WHY i

1056
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 9: really do believe change is possible sooner than many people.

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Speaker 2: Think Steel, hilton everybody go check out the Book Calor,

1058
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Speaker 2: failure which also goes Into. Califuture so it's not just the,

1059
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Speaker 2: problems it's also the. Fix And, steve best of luck to.

1060
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Speaker 2: You please come back and tell us how it's all

1061
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 2: going and hang out with us again.

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00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 5: Soon, absolutely thanks.

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Speaker 1: Guys Season steve does great work and it would be

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Speaker 1: transformative for the. Nation if Saying republicans are just even saying,

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Speaker 1: independence it could start to get into positions of power

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Speaker 1: all Over. California AND i do think there's a frustration

1067
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Speaker 1: Over democrat failures in the. Meantime so it's an interesting book. Idea,

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Speaker 1: look my Beloved university Of tennessee volunteers are about to

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Speaker 1: make my, Boss Julie tabot cry because she is a

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Speaker 1: graduate of The university Of. Kentucky but if you disagree with,

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Speaker 1: that maybe you love a lot of The Kentucky wildcat.

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Speaker 1: Players maybe you think they're going to go off and

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Speaker 1: win a third time this year against The university Of.

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Price picks has an app for. That you can

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Speaker 1: more than expected in all of their different. Performances and

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