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<v Speaker 1>Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 2>vicious felonies. These episodes are based on. These are our stories.

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<v Speaker 2>Done done hoo doy who I've never said that. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's that's messed up. An SVU podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Lisa and I am Kara, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>our podcast where we talk about episodes of Law and

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<v Speaker 1>Order SVU the true crimes they're based on. Sometimes we

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<v Speaker 1>interview guests from the show and up top we just

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<v Speaker 1>chit chat about what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>And boy we are how is evacuating your family during

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<v Speaker 2>a giant fire that's still not apprehended.

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<v Speaker 1>We're two weeks into this fucking year, and like we

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<v Speaker 1>don't even have Trump yet, you know what I mean, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't even know if I'm prepared.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I watched the defense guy be like examined

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<v Speaker 2>by the Democrat like by the Congress or whatever, and

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<v Speaker 2>they he doesn't know anything. He doesn't know any alliance,

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't know the words Like I don't know them.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't repeat them. But like I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 2>be the director of of defense. I like, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>know anything, Like how is this allowed? And why are

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<v Speaker 2>the Republicans on tape raping children? All of them? Like

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<v Speaker 2>why not? One of them is like, I mean, we

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<v Speaker 2>can't have this guy being charge, Like I don't, I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't. They're like that one smart guy. I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand. But like he's cheated.

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<v Speaker 1>He's cheated on two wives and had a kid with

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<v Speaker 1>one of them. Out of way, It's like, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you hearing about mel Robbins too? Do we have

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<v Speaker 1>to cover her? Let them? You don't know about this?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>She's this like psychologist, Like she might not have a degree.

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<v Speaker 2>She's an inspirational speaker, but she's all over TikTok, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like she's like a tit she got. But she's someone

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<v Speaker 2>that was like eight hundred thousand dollars in debt. Her

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<v Speaker 2>life was a mess, she changed everything and now is

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<v Speaker 2>like a millionaire podcaster, right, and she has these this

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<v Speaker 2>she's just everywhere or maybe just in my algorithm. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>she's just like everywhere, her books everywhere. But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know how it connected to anything. Oh she was

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<v Speaker 2>just talking about like someone called in for advice on

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<v Speaker 2>Chelsea Handler's podcast of like feeling hopeless and like everything

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<v Speaker 2>being terrible and blah blah blah, and it was just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the thing that you're probably experiencing right now

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<v Speaker 2>in La of like all the big stuff. Let that

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<v Speaker 2>you can't change these people. You can't change what's happening

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<v Speaker 2>in government, like the collapses, like things are out of control.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, we can be hopeless and it's fine if

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<v Speaker 2>you are. Honestly, I'm not Mel Robbins. I don't give

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<v Speaker 2>a shit. But it's like the community, the people are

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<v Speaker 2>coming out. Yeah, like places are like we have enough donations.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's just like you're seeing actual community come together

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<v Speaker 2>and help each other in small, manageable ways that you can.

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<v Speaker 2>People's houses are burned down, they have nothing, like there's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing we can actually do, but people are helping and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't it just is wild. And then I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 2>the someone in your leadership. It was like thinking target,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's like I just hate everything in government and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just she's not original saying it. I can't even

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<v Speaker 2>you know, listen, I but it's just a small collective, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>people and seeing people come together and is the one

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<v Speaker 2>the inspiring thing we can have before the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>insurance companies buy. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been unfortunately inspiring in ways that might make you

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<v Speaker 2>feel less hopeless.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but thank you for everybody who has has messaged

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<v Speaker 1>me asking how my family is.

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<v Speaker 3>We were we were okay.

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<v Speaker 1>We're about ten miles nine miles from the closest fire,

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<v Speaker 1>and our house was very smoke. Our power went out,

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<v Speaker 1>so we did leave and go somewhere with better air,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we moved to we went to Long Beach

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<v Speaker 1>and then we moved south down to closer to like

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<v Speaker 1>the San Diego area for a day. And then once

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<v Speaker 1>our power was back on and I heard that the

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<v Speaker 1>air was improving in La, we came back like we

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<v Speaker 1>were gone for two days and it's just been scary

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just been sad, Like I just know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people that have lost their homes. But we

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<v Speaker 1>are doing okay, And like you were just saying, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been so inspiring, so amazing to see everybody mobilizing, like

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's doing stuff to help. Like honestly, I have two

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<v Speaker 1>bags of clothes like sitting marked with everything that's in them,

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<v Speaker 1>what size they are sitting on my coffee table because

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody has too much right now, like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of not in terms of cash, everybody can use more cash,

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<v Speaker 1>but in terms of like goods, people like I've been

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<v Speaker 1>given so much and everybody I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people that have been displaced feel like in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>goods donations, they feel like pretty taken care of. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're gonna shout out some gofundmes at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of.

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<v Speaker 2>The money for sure. Money is all so like the

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<v Speaker 2>labor of at all, Like people have to sort through

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<v Speaker 2>everything and organize it. And so of course you wrote

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<v Speaker 2>on the bag, what's up, Like that's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>But like one of my mom groups, like two of

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<v Speaker 1>my mom groups joined forces and created a store that

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<v Speaker 1>was up and running in like three days of all

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<v Speaker 1>like really nice clothes for women and kids and men

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<v Speaker 1>for anyone, for people, clothes for adults, like toys, toiletries,

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of shit that you could just go shopping

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<v Speaker 1>at this store. So instead of people just like bringing

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<v Speaker 1>you shit that you're like, cool, this isn't really my style,

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<v Speaker 1>or like what am I going to do with this

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't fit?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we did. The synagogue had like just clothes

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<v Speaker 2>and you could go and fix that up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And they had that mobilized up and running for

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<v Speaker 1>like in two days, and like it's going, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>all week in.

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<v Speaker 2>La one video and it started and I was like

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<v Speaker 2>about to be mad that it was like sill, like

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't get it at first, but it was a

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<v Speaker 2>guy being like, I'm going to donate all my squish

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<v Speaker 2>mollows and he went to a store our JUnit and

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<v Speaker 2>it was like boxes and boxes and boxes, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like what And then you see the kids jumping

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<v Speaker 2>in and picking out their toys and hugging the squish

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<v Speaker 2>mallows and then I'm like the kids lost everything. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't have schools, And then I lost it, but like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's like a toy, Like yeah, I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yeah, I dropped off a bunch of school

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<v Speaker 1>supplies at a school at a drive yesterday. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just trying to get things like but everybody

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<v Speaker 1>really feels like they're helping, except for the people that

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<v Speaker 1>are on the internet spouting misinformation and conspiracies about why

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<v Speaker 1>La deserves this or whatever. So appreciate it's not even

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<v Speaker 1>to give them time honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate everybody's well, you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I also told our friends like I was, I was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I was texting a little bit, but that

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<v Speaker 2>the kids were at like a trampoline park. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I was like, that's so funny because to

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<v Speaker 2>the kids, this is gonna be one of the best

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<v Speaker 2>weekends of their lives and they have no idea. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously there's gonna be trauma. But it just reminded me

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<v Speaker 2>because in like O nine or twenty ten, there was

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<v Speaker 2>a horrific blizzard in Chicago and like people froze to

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<v Speaker 2>death on shore drive in their cars, like there was devastation.

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<v Speaker 2>It changed the way like snow days were administered from

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<v Speaker 2>then on, like in terms of like, well it's not

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<v Speaker 2>risk it. But our friends at the best party ever

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<v Speaker 2>and we got hammered, and I had a big sleep

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<v Speaker 2>over at my house and we watched movies all like

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<v Speaker 2>the blizzard that devastated and people died, not comparable to

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<v Speaker 2>the fires at all, but like just such a good memory.

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<v Speaker 2>And with the kids, it's like they're just gonna remember Sandy, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they were so excited to just be at this, like

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<v Speaker 2>we stayed at like you know, the equivalent of like

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<v Speaker 2>a residence inn where like you know, you have like

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<v Speaker 2>a room and a living room and like so that

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<v Speaker 2>we can like maybe not be with our kids twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four or seven, and like they were like all got friends.

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<v Speaker 2>The video the dads were jumping. I got a video

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<v Speaker 2>of the dance. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. Everyone was like

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<v Speaker 2>all of our friends are at this hotel. Like so

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning, they'd be like, can we go have

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<v Speaker 2>breakfast with all of our friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they were like having They love hotels. They

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<v Speaker 1>like they yeah, they felt like they were on vacation.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, like I've been talking to

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of parents that are like, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>telling your kids? Like I'm just like I had a

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<v Speaker 1>friend text me and go, we've just been telling our

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<v Speaker 1>friends our kids that this is a windstorm. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, everybody do your own thing to each

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<v Speaker 1>their own. Of course, you know your kid better than

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<v Speaker 1>anyone else. But like I tell my kids, I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>honest with them, Like I told them everything. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>there are these big fires, some people have lost everything.

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<v Speaker 1>You're very lucky, you know, Like I'm telling them everything

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<v Speaker 1>and then people are like, we just told them that

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<v Speaker 1>we had.

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<v Speaker 2>A power outage. Is that weird? And I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna hear stuff at school, and I think you'd

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<v Speaker 1>rather hear it from your parents in like a thoughtful

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<v Speaker 1>conversation than like I'm not showing them charred remains, but

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<v Speaker 1>like you know what I mean, like I'm telling them

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>This could be you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like I'm trying to get them to donate some

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<v Speaker 1>of their stuffies, which has been difficult, but we did

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of a few Paw Patrol stuffies for a

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<v Speaker 1>family that had a Paw Patrol fan.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been like, Okay, there's been comics who have lost

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<v Speaker 2>their homes and I understand, like I do get the

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<v Speaker 2>sentiment of kill the rich. Obviously, you know Luis g Fan.

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<v Speaker 2>He's innocent though, but alleged. But like Billy Crystal, losing

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<v Speaker 2>his house is not the establishment, you know what I mean? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like Billy Crystal will be okay, but I'm sure he

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<v Speaker 2>has better memories than you do and he deserves to

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<v Speaker 2>have them, like he hosted the Oscars. I'm sure there's

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<v Speaker 2>envelopes but like we can still feel sad for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Mandy Moore losing her house even though she's on a

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<v Speaker 2>TV show like the I don't it's not just.

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<v Speaker 1>Anymore GoFundMe for her in laws and people went after her.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, do you think Mandy Moore has the

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<v Speaker 1>money to rebuild everybody's life in her entire family? Like

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<v Speaker 1>her in laws needs some help, like she reposted their GoFundMe,

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<v Speaker 1>Like everybody is going, I don't know. Everybody feels out

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<v Speaker 1>of control at times like this, I think, And and

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<v Speaker 1>they want to like be like they want to like

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<v Speaker 1>exercise control by telling everybody like how they need to

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<v Speaker 1>be doing this and that and spending on on on

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<v Speaker 1>and publicizing one and and whatnot. And it's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>everybody needs to just take a step back and look

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<v Speaker 1>for how you can help. But we don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>dwell what else has been going on?

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to dwell? Okay, I will, I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>I guess switch quickly. I was doing a show well

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<v Speaker 2>still with the Fires. I was doing a show at

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<v Speaker 2>Union Hall, one of my favorite places to perform, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do a show in tel February seventh BT

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<v Speaker 2>Dubs and when does this come out? My special is

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<v Speaker 2>on Netflix or coming out night Owl? I am desperate

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<v Speaker 2>get over it, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Please A special night Owl on Netflix comes out in

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<v Speaker 1>one week from today. If you have not gone to

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<v Speaker 1>your TV and set the remind me whatever button it is,

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<v Speaker 1>just go to your Netflix now and go be boop

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<v Speaker 1>remind me. That way, it will just pop up on

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<v Speaker 1>your Netflix. You don't even have to think about it

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<v Speaker 1>on the twenty eighth, because yes, thank you are getting here.

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<v Speaker 2>We're worry we gotta get this baby in the top ten.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also so nervous. I'm trying to like be on

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<v Speaker 2>all everyone's podcasts. I'm messaging every friend I have that's successful,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, do I have this many things to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about? I do? But it is like Jesus Christ,

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<v Speaker 2>people are gonna be sick of my ass. But so

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<v Speaker 2>Gavin Mattz put together a show to give money to

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<v Speaker 2>fire stuff, like I said, yes, of course, I show up,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm kind of like, I don't know, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I should be killing harder. I'm a little annoyed,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm having fun, you know. I'm like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a nightmare. I go well, obviously in California it's worse,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like trying to be charming, but I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on? Two people had seizures in the back

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<v Speaker 2>of the showroom and two comedians were whole Emil Waqim

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<v Speaker 2>Ricky Vellez holding up a woman seizing and then Ricky's

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<v Speaker 2>like I kept being like sh because I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>no one was telling me. They were taken out of

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<v Speaker 2>the back of the room. Yeah, a one woman's ease

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<v Speaker 2>and foul and then another and like chances that's not

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<v Speaker 2>a massive venue, Like what are the alls of two people?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm up there being like what that was a

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<v Speaker 2>good one? Guys, what's going on? You guys are giving

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<v Speaker 2>me nothing. I think people are watching women's seas in

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<v Speaker 2>the back. But I'm like, I guess it's good they

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<v Speaker 2>hit it for me. But I went back behind that

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<v Speaker 2>current and everyone was like, you will not believe what's

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<v Speaker 2>been going on. Because I also felt like I was

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<v Speaker 2>on stage longer, like usually they're really tight on time there,

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah, because I was like, am I going crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>But I am a professional, like I know kind of

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm at, So I did feel like I was

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<v Speaker 2>I knew it was more than ten minutes, so now

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<v Speaker 2>it all makes sense. But I was up there for

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<v Speaker 2>a while being like, all right, I guess they want

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<v Speaker 2>me here longer, you know, like because I knew the

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<v Speaker 2>next comic was there. So yeah, it' all like kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Of wow and both during your set. Yes, it's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I hope they're okay. Yeah for your donation

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<v Speaker 2>to the victims of the fire. And I hope you

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<v Speaker 2>could afford your ambulance ride. Yeah, yeah, I guess maybe

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<v Speaker 2>we should figure out how to reach I've been kind

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<v Speaker 2>of making light of the situation, but yeah, two people

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<v Speaker 2>did have seizures.

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<v Speaker 3>If you know the people that have the seizures, please

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<v Speaker 3>let us know that they're own.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let me know. I don't mean to make light

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<v Speaker 2>of it. It is just like a why you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a story. It's a story. I tell stories. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a brag, so I well, I guess I'll

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<v Speaker 2>do a Luigi update. A Luigi update. The trial date

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<v Speaker 2>has been moved from January eighteenth to like February seventeenth,

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<v Speaker 2>because the defense, Yeah, the defense actually needs more time.

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<v Speaker 2>I was reading an article in a Baltimore paper where

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<v Speaker 2>am I the Baltimore Sun. I'm sure I'm a fucking

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<v Speaker 2>subscriber and that's why I can read it. Okay, I can't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta check in with the business manager be like

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<v Speaker 2>how many papers am I subscriber?

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<v Speaker 3>We need rocket money on the case here.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's actually good for the defense because they need

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<v Speaker 2>more time to build the case. And the Pennsylvania date

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<v Speaker 2>has been like stopped because basically you go to court

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<v Speaker 2>to like plead not guilty and guilty, but you can

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<v Speaker 2>do it not in court by being like, we understand

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<v Speaker 2>the charges and this is how we plead. Okay. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so February seventeenth it's been moved, which is good because

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<v Speaker 2>I have a busy Saturday because I was gonna go,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do have a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Of seventeenth of February. That's gonna be a Monday. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be like the start of the real trial.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not like the grandeur.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, no, it's still not This is gonna take

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. It's gonna be I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it's good. I don't know exactly, Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I was just wondering might not appear in federal court

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<v Speaker 2>till mid February. It's the one of the defense attorneys says,

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<v Speaker 2>this is standard operating procedure and and they said this

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<v Speaker 2>is good, like they need more time. It benefits the defense.

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<v Speaker 2>The longer the case drags, it puts more pressure on

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<v Speaker 2>the state to try and get a verdict. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and it says he comes from one of the wealthiest

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<v Speaker 2>families in Baltimore. Yeah. So honestly, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>read you guys, like any paper that uses the photo

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<v Speaker 2>of him screaming. I'm like, I don't, I'm not using it.

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<v Speaker 2>But oh, can I tell say one thing that I please?

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of court, So, Jeredika watched this movie the other

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<v Speaker 1>day with Nicholas Holt that's out now. It's on Max

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<v Speaker 1>and it's called jur Number two. Okay, okay. Clint Eastwood

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<v Speaker 1>directed it was he truly looks like the crypt keeper.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not even rude. It's just the side by side.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, I know, And like, oh wait,

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<v Speaker 1>that's so funny because when I was watching the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>the main wife in the movie, her name is Zoey Deutsch,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, who is Zoey Deutsch? Like how

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<v Speaker 1>do I know HER's daughter, Leah Thompson's daughter, and her

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<v Speaker 1>husband is a TV director who directed a movie director

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<v Speaker 1>and a TV director, and he's directed Tales from the Crypt. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just Wow. That's like a fucking IMDb backflip. I

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<v Speaker 1>just did and I was insane. So but he directed

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of wonderful which is how he met Leah Thompson.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they had Zoey Deutsch and she's in this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>So this movie, I mean, fast forward if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want spoilers, but like it's literally if you just watch SVU,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, this movie doesn't make any sense based on forensics.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the premise of this movie, Like essentially the premise

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<v Speaker 1>of the movie is that a guy gets on a

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<v Speaker 1>jury and then realizes he may have committed the crime.

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<v Speaker 1>He committed the crime that is on on the thing

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<v Speaker 1>for but it's like the way they have her accused

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<v Speaker 1>being murdered is not the way he murdered her. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's like forensics would tell you that, and so the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing makes no sense. It's like shot in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that looks like very lifetime to me, Like and

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<v Speaker 1>you go on the Rotten Tomatoes and it's got like

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<v Speaker 1>a ninety one percent, and I'm like, I just can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe so many people like this movie. It's based, it's

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<v Speaker 1>well acted. Oh Tony Collette is the fucking prosecutor. The

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<v Speaker 1>guy from Mindy Project who's oh my god, movie Grit

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<v Speaker 1>has a new game, Casey. Have you played it? It's

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<v Speaker 1>called Movie Snake. It is the best thing ever.

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<v Speaker 2>It is so good that I play it on my

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<v Speaker 2>Google Chrome, then play it on my phone to try

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<v Speaker 2>to get better, and then I play it on both Safaris,

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<v Speaker 2>like I keep just trying to get a better and

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<v Speaker 2>better and better score because it's so fucking fun. It's

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<v Speaker 2>basically one actor, So let's say it's Julia Roberts and

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<v Speaker 2>then it's a snake. You don't see the next category,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can't the first time I play, I try

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<v Speaker 2>not to like skip forward to like see what works best,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I try to just play it naked, but it'll

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<v Speaker 2>say like a category and you keep going through the

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<v Speaker 2>snake of categories. And obviously it just was really fun

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<v Speaker 2>because it's the actors you really know, Like you know

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Damon's catalog, you know Tom Cruise's catalog. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 2>can really have fun picking and choosing. So shout out

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<v Speaker 2>to the movie group people for I'm more new games.

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<v Speaker 2>You just keep coming at me. And I can't wait

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<v Speaker 2>for Reese Witherspoon because I just watched Little Nikki last

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<v Speaker 2>night and she's in that. She plays an angel and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about to get an incredible score.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I wonder if they're sick of me

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<v Speaker 3>dming them.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you like, I love movie snake. I just googled

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<v Speaker 2>my streak, by the way, and I did not get

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<v Speaker 2>the I did not get the result.

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<v Speaker 3>That I wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, but like a penis No, it was just a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of huge snakes from movies like Anaconda or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that I don't want to see an a

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<v Speaker 1>Conda in the theater. Oh, Jennifer Lopez Yeah, and John Volloy. Yeah. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I would just say if you're like, if you're even

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<v Speaker 1>a freshman at sv University, like you do not need

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<v Speaker 1>to watch your number two? It's like whatever, but what

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<v Speaker 1>else is going on? That was my review my movie corner.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I'm I'm gonna watch the Dana Mora Escape

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<v Speaker 2>Show because Melanie, who is in charge of Simpsons Trivia,

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<v Speaker 2>told me it is good and her her boyfriend did

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<v Speaker 2>lighting for it, so I like being connected. I like, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's exciting. I also did go back to Simpsons Trivia,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had the time of my life just playing,

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<v Speaker 2>just playing. Oh yeah, I said, you guys were going

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<v Speaker 2>and we had a great time. And I hope, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope. I'm like so busy when my special comes

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<v Speaker 2>out and popular. But also I do hope I'm free

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<v Speaker 2>that night so I can go to Simpsons Trivia because

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<v Speaker 2>I did have so much fun and we did better

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<v Speaker 2>than I thought. But I also am an idiot. It's

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<v Speaker 2>crazy because one of the cattle, like one of the

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<v Speaker 2>themes was Snow, and I watched every Snow episode. Then

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<v Speaker 2>while I was getting ready for that for that night,

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<v Speaker 2>I watched a bunch of them again. Took notes. Two

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<v Speaker 2>of the questions about an episode I watched before I

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<v Speaker 2>left the house had no recollection.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I like, you were overloaded.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, because I was like, oh, I know

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<v Speaker 2>this answer, and then they're like, but how did he

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<v Speaker 2>break his COCKSIX? And I go, I don't know, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it was just so annoying, but I had just watched it,

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<v Speaker 2>so annoyed. Oh my god, I am talking about bad movie.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do love Nicholas Holt. I do really, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a big fan of his.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved the I like him. It was that foodie

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<v Speaker 1>one that I loved, the menu y. I love that, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's very talented. I just and he's He's

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<v Speaker 1>good in the movie. The acting is not the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just experts. It's also got the MINDI Project guy,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that was like her love interest in the

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<v Speaker 1>MINDI part.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you know, Hannah, I have Christmasina.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's cute too, Like it's star studded, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>just like, why isn't it good? Why is it based

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<v Speaker 1>on something that like could not be real? Like later

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<v Speaker 1>they try to say, oh, well, the guy who did

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<v Speaker 1>the autopsy did for autopsies that day. That's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of autopsies. And I'm like, but you're gonna maybe put

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<v Speaker 1>this guy away for like, like you'd redo the autopsy,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know. No one is like it's and

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<v Speaker 1>then the in the movie, the prosecutor starts to investigate,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when you're like, they don't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>The prosecutors only care about winning.

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<v Speaker 2>They do not they are not going out to see

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<v Speaker 2>if maybe they were wrong, Like that's not happening. Oh no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>well I watched its terrible movie, so bad that I

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<v Speaker 2>could not even finish, even in the background while I

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<v Speaker 2>was doing other things. It was that bad. But star

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<v Speaker 2>studded so it's so weird, and I think the reason

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<v Speaker 2>it got me, not that that's this podcast, is because

0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:05.560
<v Speaker 2>this guy made She's all that and the guy just

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<v Speaker 2>bought the script. Get over it.

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<v Speaker 3>Get over it sounds familiar.

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<v Speaker 2>So bad, But listen to this cast. Kirsten Dunce, Ben Foster, Cisco,

0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Shane West, Colin Hank, Zoey's Sildana, Mila Kunis, Swoo Scerts,

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<v Speaker 2>Ed Bagley, Junior, Martin Short, Carmen, Electra Coolio like and

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<v Speaker 2>this guy, Dove Tiffenbach, who is from SVU episodes That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I know him and from a Harriet the Spy.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's you know it truly is. Oh wait, Melissa

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<v Speaker 1>Sage Miller is in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I because I don't know who that is.

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<v Speaker 2>She's one of the forgettable das from SVU. She took

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<v Speaker 2>the strawberry.

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<v Speaker 3>Blond that you're like, who the fuck is this like.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you fucking kidding me? Oh my god, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to cut this as a clip. Casey, the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>I fucking you're like, I swoop because I didn't get you.

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<v Speaker 3>She's Jillian Hardwick.

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<v Speaker 2>She is third in the IMDb photos and I skipped

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<v Speaker 2>her because I go, well, that's an unknown who didn't

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<v Speaker 2>go anywhere. And she is in the show that we

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<v Speaker 2>do a podcast about. Are you fucking kidding? And we

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<v Speaker 2>call her the forgettable da she is forgettable. That is

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<v Speaker 2>why you don't have a career, bitch. Sorry, yeah, Ada,

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<v Speaker 2>Jillian Hardway. Oh my god, Oh my god, this is

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<v Speaker 2>the best moment of my life. Like this is electric.

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<v Speaker 2>Eleven episodes of SVU skipped over even saying her name.

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<v Speaker 2>She's redacted in your mind. Oh my god, this is

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<v Speaker 2>like the best moment of my life. Oh how she

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<v Speaker 2>was a mister Woodcock. That's funny. Oh that's a good

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<v Speaker 2>one for Billy Bob Thornton if.

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<v Speaker 1>He ever comes on movie grid is that Susans is

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<v Speaker 1>mister wood No, that's a different movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Never mind. Okay, but what I did want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>and it does have to do with our podcast, kind

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, So I went to the first, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a brag. So I went to the Met an artist

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<v Speaker 2>that I owned three pece from him, and then he's

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<v Speaker 2>gifted me one piece as well. He was at the

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<v Speaker 2>he was in a Met, he was in an exhibit

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<v Speaker 2>at the Met, Damians Damian Davis. So we and it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, So we did a pilgrimage to the Met

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<v Speaker 2>on a Sunday, on a.

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday upper eating, I mean side on a Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I'm just saying, like that's commitment. That means you

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<v Speaker 2>really want to see someone because it is packed.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye, not the way I love to do things.

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<v Speaker 2>But the exhibits till February seventeenth, it's Flight into Egypt,

0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:35.600
<v Speaker 2>Black Artists in Ancient Egypt eighteen seventy six to now.

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<v Speaker 2>And what it's cool is they had like a TV

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:41.720
<v Speaker 2>situation playing an old sketch of Richard from the Richard

0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Pryor Show, which I don't even know was a show,

0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:46.359
<v Speaker 2>and it's like it seems very Chappelle show, Key and Peel,

0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:48.400
<v Speaker 2>like what a lineage, But it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was a sketch about like.

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<v Speaker 2>How they like find a tomb and realize that the

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<v Speaker 2>civilization started with black people, so the white people. One

0:23:57.320 --> 0:23:59.920
<v Speaker 2>of which is Robin Williams, close him in a tomb

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<v Speaker 2>and burn everything to hide it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh my god, that's cool.

0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 2>And what was cool was like Damien's piece was in

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<v Speaker 2>the same room as like next to a Kara walker

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:16.200
<v Speaker 2>and in the same room as a Basquiacht, Like, oh,

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 2>that's so and obviously like probably other very well known

0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:23.280
<v Speaker 2>artists that I just don't know, but like yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I heard two women walking towards the Damien's piece

0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 2>going oh, I want that, like pointed him and then

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:33.159
<v Speaker 2>like read about. I mean, it was like I can't

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<v Speaker 2>believe I know someone with a piece at them in

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 2>the met Like I just can't awesome, that's cool. I

0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:43.360
<v Speaker 2>truly can't believe it. And then on the way there

0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't even believe my luck I found an exhibit

0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:50.879
<v Speaker 2>that was I So we're walking past the modern photography.

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this place is huge, so like you have

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<v Speaker 2>to walk across the thing Jesse Crimes corrections and it's

0:24:56.680 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 2>a whole room of our made by this guy, Jesse Crimes,

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:05.879
<v Speaker 2>who was incarcerated for five years, and it's basically the

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.800
<v Speaker 2>art he made on the inside with decks of cards, soap,

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 2>newspaper clippings and photos and pebbles from the yard and straying,

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:18.240
<v Speaker 2>and it's like his whole thing was they can take

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:19.879
<v Speaker 2>everything from you, but not your.

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 3>Ability to create.

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:25.439
<v Speaker 2>Wow. And but the art was just okay, yeah, like

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:27.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, limited resource considering the materials.

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, limited resources.

0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:34.200
<v Speaker 2>But it was also like the power of photography and

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:40.200
<v Speaker 2>like just different photos of like peoples, mugshots and collages

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.679
<v Speaker 2>with like famous people and newspapers. I don't know. I

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:47.160
<v Speaker 2>just like couldn't believe. I found like a prison art

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 2>show on my on the way and I did write

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:53.160
<v Speaker 2>to Luigi to let him know about the exhibit.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you communicating with Luigi snail mail or is

0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 1>there any Yeah, I'm writing No, No, I'm writing cards,

0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:00.880
<v Speaker 1>like okay, I'm writing.

0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I've written to a few of I only have one

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:07.840
<v Speaker 2>friend that's been supportive, and everyone else is like pretty

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 2>upset by my choices. One friend said, I will pray

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 2>for you. One shook their head. No. But I just

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 2>couldn't believe it, and that's awesome. It was just cool,

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 2>a beautiful day at the met And I also just felt,

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:32.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is like terrible to say, well, you know,

0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 2>you're in the fires of la But I just can't

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 2>believe I live a train ride away from the met Like.

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:42.359
<v Speaker 3>It is Yeah, that's that is cool.

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like to be an art It's like yeah,

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 2>And that's how I felt in Chicago, like I love

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:50.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I love the Art Institute. But and it's

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 2>so funny because I saw a painting and I go, wait,

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:54.160
<v Speaker 2>that's in Chicago. This George Sarah is not fucking hero

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:56.439
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck? And it was one of his like

0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 2>like getting ready ones. It was like a study. It

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:04.400
<v Speaker 2>was like one of the prequels to the Final and

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:07.440
<v Speaker 2>I was like, damn, I'm like so smart. Yeah, the

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 2>last year the Art Institude in.

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 3>Chicago is amazing, Like I love that museum.

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 2>No, it was just a very special day and also

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 2>connected with what we do and what we're interested in.

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 2>So it was like that's cool. Anyway, any business, before

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:33.919
<v Speaker 2>we wrap up, We've got night Owl on Netflix coming

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 2>out in one week from today. The time I had

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 2>like a really fun experience with my sales associate at

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 2>T Mobile, but I think since we're at thirty minutes,

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 2>we could save that for a different day. The one

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 2>little funny thing I'll say about it and then this

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 2>will be a to be continued for next intro. But

0:27:56.600 --> 0:28:00.080
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm not good with technology. It panics me.

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like it's it's a trigger for me. So

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm like stressed. I have to get this upgrade. But

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 2>my sister got this great deal. I gotta go get

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 2>a new phone. And I'm like panicked and something glitch

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 2>like while it's sharing information, I'm like, what's the mirroring?

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:19.119
<v Speaker 2>Like is all my photos the files? And I'm like

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 2>flipping out. He goes, No, I understand. The iPhone twelve

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 2>merge was a wild time. A lot of people lost

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot. He goes. I get a lot of people

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.680
<v Speaker 2>your age, real stressed. But things are different now, That's

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 2>what he said to me. Things are different now, he goes.

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 2>He goes, I get a lot of people like you,

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 2>stressed out, but like all of your photo everything will transfer.

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Do not worry.

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<v Speaker 1>He's okay, okay, babe, Everything's gonna be okay, all right

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>before we leave though. Also, Lisa has a ton of

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 1>tour dates. You can go to the link in her

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Instagram bio for those or you know that's messed up.

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Live dot Com has like all of our Instagram bios

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 1>that lead to calendars and stuff like that. And then

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 1>we are going to be doing a live show in

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 1>DC on following Lisa doing a weekend there, so go

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 1>see Lisa do stand up. And then we're doing a

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>show on February twenty third, so go grab tickets to that.

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 1>We love coming to d C. And yeah, it's going

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>to be at the Improv again. We always do a

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 1>different episode, so if you've come before, come again, and yeah,

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 1>let's get started.

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Baggage Season ten, episode eighteen. I'm really excited. This also

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 2>reminds me there's a show called Baggage and it was

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 2>referenced and I think season one of Girls. You know

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 2>you have like big baggage, medium baggage, little baggage. Have

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 2>you heard of this?

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 2>So in Chicago, I had a friend and every New

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Year's Day we would get together and watch Baggage. And

0:29:55.920 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 2>it was a game show hosted by Jerry Springer and

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 2>basically it's like a dating show and a man or

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 2>woman and then there's like three people, three contestants, and

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 2>they have a giant suitcase and they reveal your like

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 2>big baggage.

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm remembering this and then you.

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Pick which one you can't deal with, and then one

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 2>gets eliminated, and then it's like medium baggage, and then

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 2>you have to pick someone before you find out what

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 2>the small bag, like what the biggest baggage is or

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 2>the you know, the like, yeah, the most fucked up

0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 2>and then you like decide are you going to date

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 2>that person or not? But it's it's unhinged. Oh guess what.

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 2>You can watch it now and then watch it on

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 2>Pluto TV on all these new fast channels they're letting

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 2>you watch baggage.

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 1>I totally remember this now that you're bringing it up.

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, it's coming back to me, like.

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 2>And I remember. I feel like I remember Shoshana's baggage,

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 2>like her most crazy one was that she didn't doesn't

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 2>love her grandmother, and then one was that she was

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 2>a virgin, and then I don't remember what the other

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 2>one was.

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 3>Wow, I what do you remember?

0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 1>What they ever were on the on the Springer Show, Like,

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>were there ever any like crazy ones? Like I feel

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 1>like there was one that a guy was like I

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>was in Joe for Murder. Never mind, but maybe I'm

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>making that up.

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:11.720
<v Speaker 2>That would be in I remember any of them, but

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 2>we yeah, we would eat I think wings Stop and

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 2>pizza and it was just it was I think we

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 2>only did it like two years in a row, but

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 2>it was nice. But this is not that. This is terrible.

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 2>This is terrible and obviously unlocked a huge fear. I

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 2>am traveling and this is something that will like, did

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 2>I already give something away? Listen, I don't care. This

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 2>is the most horrifying episode. So we're in a sexy

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 2>old time warehouse elevator and it's the type of elevator

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 2>that would be in a nineties movie about a woman

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 2>cheating on her husband with like a sexy art guy,

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:48.240
<v Speaker 2>and obviously something goes wrong and like the Diane Lane

0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 2>movie Unfaithful, yeah, perfect murder. Like there's always just like

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 2>an old timey sexual elevator because the guy always.

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Lives in like a massive yeah loft that he's like

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and you have to like crank the elevator yourself.

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I actually just recently went to a bar where

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 2>they behind the bar they were cranking with the rope

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 2>the food from the kitchen. It was like a circular

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 2>police system. Yeah, I mean I felt like I was

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 2>on a pirate ship. Yeah, I got a lie. Wow, okay,

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 2>so cool. So yeah there and we hear chatting and

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 2>it's between a young woman explaining art to a white

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 2>haired man who is pawing at her, grabbing her. She's

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 2>pushing them away, but she still tries to like talk

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 2>about art. Every piece is unique. He's now fully in

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 2>a rate mode. He's trying to get her. She's like screaming,

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 2>and then she goes, Casey, Hi, I've brought someone to

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 2>see your ceramics, and then oh god, Casey is dead.

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 2>And not only is she did she is naked, eyes open,

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 2>bruised up, tied up in like a BDSM style, tyings

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 2>marks on wrist ankles. She has red hair. It's very scary,

0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 2>and the cameras start, you know, flashing. It's Judah Ciper,

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 2>friend of the pod, and she's the lead on the

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 2>science side the scene, and this apartment has a lot

0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 2>of plans, like full jungle vibes. She was really ahead

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 2>of her time. And then Finn and Stabler arrive at

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 2>the scene and she gives them the lowdown. This is

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Casey Chapman. She's twenty eight. Did you think about Tracy

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Chapman when you saw that name? No, that's I should

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 2>have though. That's how it's scy that they did.

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Casey Chapman is pretty funny, Like, I mean, I'm going

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 1>to Tracy Chapman fan my whole life.

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 3>That's crazy.

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 2>I miss that. I never cared. It's fine. It's just

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:37.239
<v Speaker 2>like word associations, you know. Yeah. So she's twenty eight

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 2>and she's an up and coming ceramics artist, so I'm

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 2>sure she has wealthy parents as well. There's no sign

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 2>of forced entry, so Finn, you know, it's like he

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:48.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, conned his way in obviously, but there is

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 2>a window open, and Stabler is like, this is fucked.

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 2>He goes tortured, hog tiede and posed for shock value.

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 2>This is not the first vict And then we find

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 2>out not the first victim, April Silva. The same thing

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 2>happened to her three weeks ago. And they both have

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 2>their lips glued shut as well. And then they see

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 2>he you know, is learning he's leaving less behind, and god,

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:14.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 3>There's it's really really graphic. It's really a lot.

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Basically there is her back is burned from hot water,

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 2>so it's like scalding hot water, and Finn goes and

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 2>he's just winding up, and Stabler goes, well, we need

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 2>to shut him down, and we go into credits, of course,

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 2>and we're in Melinda's house and there are you know

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 2>what my dad asked me during I went to see

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 2>them on New Year's And my dad goes, when did

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 2>you like that? So Dad like or me, but he

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 2>was like, why do you do this show about our podcast?

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.919
<v Speaker 2>He goes like why Cray like, why do you learn

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 2>about this? And I go, Dad, I made you take

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 2>me to a murder cereal like a cerealcular wax museum

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:02.319
<v Speaker 2>when I was a child, Remember I watched OZ and

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 2>you would take me to the library and ed get

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 2>like forensic Psychologists book. I'm like, none of this is

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 2>ringing a bell that I've been doing this for ever,

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Like it's so crazy to me. That's so funny. He's like,

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 2>and I'm a criminal justice. I'm like, I also majored

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:22.360
<v Speaker 2>in sociology, like the study of people and how like yeah,

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:26.880
<v Speaker 2>why they do things? Effect Yeah, like I I you know,

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:30.279
<v Speaker 2>maybe he's just older or doesn't remember, or it's just

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:32.319
<v Speaker 2>too much. But it was such a dad thing of

0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 2>like when just start doing this And I'm like you've

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 2>been here for all of it for decades.

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, like my parents will give me something canoeing related

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:43.320
<v Speaker 1>like every year, and I'm like, I was a canoeing

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:44.839
<v Speaker 1>counselor twenty years ago.

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:46.200
<v Speaker 3>I have other interests.

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:47.359
<v Speaker 2>They'll just think of.

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Remember one thing that you like and be like here

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 1>it is forever like and then just ignore the other

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 1>things that you've been clearly interested in.

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 2>It was just so funny. I'm like, I just care

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:03.560
<v Speaker 2>about injustice and I don't know it's sick, but yeah,

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:05.840
<v Speaker 2>we'll see. I just can't believe I'm going to about

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 2>to be like a woman in the court stands. Okay,

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 2>So we're in Melinda's house and the well because then

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm only I'm so acab and my dad

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 2>was like, why why are you so anti? And I

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 2>go all right, let's go. So then it was just

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 2>like every it was the ed Kemper police trials. It

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 2>was like, what was the upstate New York one where

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I kept it scaping. We'll Colleen stand too, but like

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:33.120
<v Speaker 2>I just like kept going bad, like all these cases

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:35.319
<v Speaker 2>that we've covered, and I'm a pothead. So it was

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 2>like the fact that I remembered as many as it.

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't make stuff up. My thing is like,

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 2>why would you trust your children less than Russian television?

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean?

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:51.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my parents trust me less than Fox News.

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't make sense. Like, I don't understand why you

0:36:57.440 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't listen to your kids who you ran who? Like

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:03.360
<v Speaker 2>you paid for my college.

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I know, that's such a good point. It's like you

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:09.080
<v Speaker 1>created me.

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 2>You don't have any faith in anything I have to

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:19.920
<v Speaker 2>say or my thoughts. Yeah, but anyways, back to this horror,

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:21.960
<v Speaker 2>back to the scalding backwood. Yeah.

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:24.240
<v Speaker 3>Woman, so we're talking about pubes.

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's it. Melinda's house baby. She says, there's no

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 2>foreign hairs or fibers on the body, but there were

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 2>pubes in the carpet. Score, so running DNA Now she

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:39.440
<v Speaker 2>died from strangulation. Bummer. She died thirty four hours before

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:41.720
<v Speaker 2>she was found. She was also punched in the face.

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Like the first victim, the new one was not sexually assaulted,

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:50.360
<v Speaker 2>but her butthole was glued shut. Like what, Like, Kara,

0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:53.799
<v Speaker 2>how much of this episode's in the true case? Not

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 2>that's not in it? Okay, because who came up? Like

0:37:57.680 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 2>I think the writer of this needs to be put

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 2>on a watch. I don't trust this motherfucker. You're crazy

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:05.360
<v Speaker 2>gluing buttholes and that's not part of the real crime.

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:08.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like we already did the lips being glued shut,

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 1>which I was like horrific, Like there's something just horrible

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:14.359
<v Speaker 1>about that. And then you're like, can we add something else?

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 1>How can we up it? Glue their butthole shut as well? Yeap,

0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 1>let's glue the butthole shot. Like what are we talking about?

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:26.080
<v Speaker 2>My god? Okay, So anyways, it's just upsetting to think

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:29.800
<v Speaker 2>someone is going through something like that. So and then.

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully the butthole was glued shot postmortem. I just have

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:35.719
<v Speaker 1>to say that I'm hoping that that was a postmortem.

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:41.240
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, you know the answer and Edma Linda

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:45.239
<v Speaker 2>goes it took an acetone levage to get the scope in.

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Should I have left that detail out? Like I don't know?

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Or should I let the audience know that she said that.

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:54.279
<v Speaker 2>I so levage is underline and I spelled it right

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 2>from the episode. Levage is something that they invented. But

0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:02.760
<v Speaker 2>I know exactly what she means. But oh god, Okay,

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 2>So he's gluing a holes shut, he's torturing hot water.

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 2>They better find the sicko and fast. Sailor is shocked

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:12.239
<v Speaker 2>that there's no rape, so that means probably his dicked

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 2>in work, and that's what leads to like more rage.

0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 2>So like anytime he can't rape, there's more anger involved

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:21.720
<v Speaker 2>because his dick sucks. And then two women have nothing

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 2>in common, like except they do live in Harlem, and

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 2>then in walks in this guy, Victor Moran, Detective Rictor

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Moran for major crimes, and he lists sophomore parts of

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 2>the city. Okay, he's just like blah blah blah blah,

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:36.359
<v Speaker 2>and there are more and he has a flash drive

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:40.319
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, here's you know, the info hogtie all

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:43.279
<v Speaker 2>mouse glued shut like this is it? Two raped, but

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 2>not all of them and the ones that not raped

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 2>all have a butthole like this is like glued like

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:53.600
<v Speaker 2>this is a thing, a pattern, Victor Moran so and basically,

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, he has to debase these people, humiliate them,

0:39:56.400 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 2>whether he rapes them or not. And he's being helpful informative,

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:03.400
<v Speaker 2>and Finn's like, well, why didn't you say anything sooner?

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:05.800
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, I don't know. He came in pretty helpful,

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 2>but he goes, uh, well, sorry, it took me, like,

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, second to get it together. And then he

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:14.080
<v Speaker 2>goes because it's all different, like the first one used

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 2>her own belt, second one scarves, third rope he brought,

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 2>so there's always a turn. And then Stabler goes, well,

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:21.759
<v Speaker 2>when I looked all this up in the system, I

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:23.719
<v Speaker 2>didn't find it. Now we hate victim Ran. He goes,

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 2>I blocked it. And then they go, oh, you're a

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:28.400
<v Speaker 2>glory hog. So he like blocked people being able to

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:33.439
<v Speaker 2>get information because he wanted to solve it. What the fuck? Yes?

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Bad, Yeah, it's bad and it it yeah, because why

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:42.320
<v Speaker 1>is that even an option? Why is there an option

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 1>in the system that you can block information from other

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>precincts finding it?

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like he does know it's about them, but then

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:51.840
<v Speaker 2>it's like why clog And he goes, I've been working

0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:52.560
<v Speaker 2>this for six months.

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:56.839
<v Speaker 3>I didn't want anybody in my way. Yeah okay, and he.

0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:58.919
<v Speaker 2>Goes, you see every fifty five days now it's down

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:03.000
<v Speaker 2>to every nineteen. And Stadler's like, cool, now get lost.

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 2>We got it from here and Major and he goes,

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Major Crime says it's mine, this is this is what

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 2>we talked about last This is what we talk about.

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Why can't men be more like women? They're like, they're

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 2>just always taught not to be feminine, and it's like,

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 2>this would be a moment where I think women would go, oh,

0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 2>let's share information, let's get this.

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Let's get collab, let's get let's collab, let's throw it down.

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:26.839
<v Speaker 2>That's ice.

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:28.279
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna find this guy.

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:32.359
<v Speaker 1>Yes, girl, come over, bring wine, We're gonna figure this out.

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:35.359
<v Speaker 2>Truly, I'm gonna be talking about the way they fight

0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:38.239
<v Speaker 2>over this case for about thirty five minutes, Like I

0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 2>am so livid at how much time, and and not

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:44.239
<v Speaker 2>only that, Craigan's gonna be He's in his own fight.

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:47.840
<v Speaker 2>So basically, then the morang goes, well, my boss is

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:52.319
<v Speaker 2>talking to your boss. Mature, mature. So Cragan's in with

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:55.520
<v Speaker 2>the chief of D's and Craigan goes, no, it's mine,

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:58.720
<v Speaker 2>my squad can do it. How dare you? You get promoted?

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:00.799
<v Speaker 2>And the first thing you do is me over my

0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:07.399
<v Speaker 2>desk and so and so. Then they waste more time

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:09.800
<v Speaker 2>fighting who gets it? Munch is there, and finally Finn

0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:12.840
<v Speaker 2>is like, can we get a suspect profile? Then? And

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:16.360
<v Speaker 2>he goes okay, okay, great. So then Moran goes, okay,

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 2>I think Latino black mail late twenties, early thirties, Stablers

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:23.759
<v Speaker 2>poop Poo's. The infhone goes, yeah, yeah, you're not the

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:27.880
<v Speaker 2>only cop who spent time in Quantico and walks off,

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:32.799
<v Speaker 2>and it's just like okay, and then his response is, well,

0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm the only cop working at Sport, so you blocked it.

0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 2>But if you didn't block it, they could have been

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 2>working on it. So then Craigan and the chief of

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 2>D's walk out yelling, and he's like, stay out of

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Moran's way and give him what he wants. And they're

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 2>both bald. It's just like bald on bald crime. And

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 2>then again even the bosses aren't like, Hi, hey, how

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 2>about we all work together to solve this horrific serial

0:42:57.640 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 2>killer who is like torturing women in Stabler gives him

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:03.600
<v Speaker 2>the box of info and is pissed and he's like,

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:06.120
<v Speaker 2>you're using these victims to get a gold star from

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:08.960
<v Speaker 2>your boss. And it's like, well, you're doing the same thing,

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 2>but now it's gossip time. Stabler goes, I hear you

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 2>don't know how to play nice with people, and he goes,

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm just better working alone, and then he goes, you're

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:20.719
<v Speaker 2>willing to risk more victims because you can't share. Come on,

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 2>and he screams, this is my only priority. You have

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:26.719
<v Speaker 2>so many sex crimes. Go do your other work and

0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:30.800
<v Speaker 2>give me privacy. Sabler walks to Finn, who has a witness. Okay,

0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:33.800
<v Speaker 2>So Deborah Huggins lives one floor below, she works nights,

0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:38.160
<v Speaker 2>and she found their card during while they were canvassing,

0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 2>and so Finn is going to keep Major Crimes busy

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 2>while Stabler is going to go work the case alone

0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:49.240
<v Speaker 2>and not involve him in it. So again like foolishness,

0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Munch walks in and goes, fuck the pubes from the

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:54.799
<v Speaker 2>carpet aren't in the system. Maybe we can do a

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:58.600
<v Speaker 2>familial match, and Victor Moran goes, why are you asking me?

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Just go do it, and mons like geez okay, yes sir,

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 2>and Finn hates him too. In Major Crimes, by the way,

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:11.400
<v Speaker 2>it is an actor named Delroy Lindo, and so Victor

0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:14.239
<v Speaker 2>gets very America's next top model, and he goes, I'm

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 2>trying to catch a killer, not make friends, and then

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Finn says, by yourself and Vic asks, you think I'm

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 2>out of line, and then this is more ice than Finn.

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:27.759
<v Speaker 2>He goes from the minute you got here, and so

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:31.080
<v Speaker 2>I hope, since you know, I hope he learns something.

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 2>This is a mess. So they go see Debrah and

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:35.320
<v Speaker 2>she's like, I think I might have seen the killer.

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:37.759
<v Speaker 2>I saw a guy waiting for the elevator. He was

0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:40.080
<v Speaker 2>in a maintenance uniform but no company name, and so

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 2>that gave me alarm bells. He was black, twenties, lanky,

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 2>and then in the elevator, she also noticed no toolbox.

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 2>So she got Karen with him and then started asking

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 2>questions and he wouldn't answer them, and she hurried into

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:54.839
<v Speaker 2>her apartment. She's gonna sit with a sketch artist and

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:59.200
<v Speaker 2>get it going. So now immediately we get a phone call.

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:01.480
<v Speaker 2>That's someone that looks like the sketch is getting chased

0:45:01.480 --> 0:45:03.440
<v Speaker 2>by a group of people and they look like they're

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:06.280
<v Speaker 2>out for blood, and this is all moving very fast.

0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 2>He's getting beat up. Finn and Stabler arrive at the scene.

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:12.400
<v Speaker 2>They like rip people off of him, and then he

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:15.680
<v Speaker 2>looks he looks like the picture and the guy that's

0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 2>in charge of the mob beating him up is named Peanut,

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:19.720
<v Speaker 2>which is a fun detail.

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:21.400
<v Speaker 3>I love that. I love Peanut.

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:23.720
<v Speaker 2>It's like the person who wrote this, I was pissed

0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 2>about the glued butthole, but I'm back in with the peanut. Yeah,

0:45:26.719 --> 0:45:27.800
<v Speaker 2>you got me with Peanut.

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 1>This reminded me of Richard Ramirez, how like a random

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 1>like crew of people in the neighborhood just chased him down.

0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 2>That's how he got caught. Like, I love that the neighborhood. Baby,

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 2>don't fuck with us. So basically, Peanut's like, yeah, we

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 2>recognize him from the news. We were all playing basketball.

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:45.439
<v Speaker 2>He was going into the building where my granny lived,

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:47.959
<v Speaker 2>and then they see he has lock picks on him

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 2>and they're gonna put him in lock up, and he

0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:53.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, and he thinks but he thinks the cops.

0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 2>He goes like, thanks for saving my life, and Stabler goes,

0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:58.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if I'm happy about this, and

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.560
<v Speaker 2>the guy gets confused, like what. So we're in cement

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:04.319
<v Speaker 2>room bars and he's so beat up, and they think

0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:06.200
<v Speaker 2>it's him. They're being mean to him. They're really going

0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 2>out of him. He's like, I'm chill, this is chill.

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:11.280
<v Speaker 2>But then he slips and goes I always wear gloves.

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:13.719
<v Speaker 2>And then he asks for a lawyer. He goes, I'm

0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 2>getting a raw deal. He starts crying, and Finn does

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:18.319
<v Speaker 2>the classic oh you think this is a raw deal,

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:20.720
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna get it raw in prison. You're gonna get raped.

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:23.960
<v Speaker 2>He's crying. He's like, we're gonna fucking rape you in prison.

0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna throw the table like there. I hate when

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 2>they do. Yeah, I hate that tactic. And then you know,

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:34.640
<v Speaker 2>so then the guy peas himself. He's so scared and

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:37.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it's not our guy. Okay. So then they

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:39.319
<v Speaker 2>come out and Craigan's like, what the fuck was that?

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:41.759
<v Speaker 2>And they're like, well, social workers said his biggest fear

0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 2>was prison, so we decided to pounce.

0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:47.480
<v Speaker 3>On that lean up and he so fucked up.

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:51.479
<v Speaker 2>And then finally cabots there and the only one making

0:46:51.560 --> 0:46:54.960
<v Speaker 2>sense a woman. She goes like that jellyfish of a

0:46:55.000 --> 0:46:57.960
<v Speaker 2>person did not commit these brutal crimes, like come on,

0:46:58.080 --> 0:47:01.360
<v Speaker 2>you're wasting my time. We need a murder kit or

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:04.080
<v Speaker 2>leave me the fuck alone, and then she leaves. Munch

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:06.000
<v Speaker 2>walks in and says that Chief of Dez is here

0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:09.960
<v Speaker 2>and Granddaddy is mad. So then the squad comes out

0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 2>and he's yelling like, how dare you take this case?

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 2>I told you you were off of it, and I

0:47:14.480 --> 0:47:16.760
<v Speaker 2>wish Cabot was here to like help them work together.

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:19.920
<v Speaker 2>So the baldies fight, and then we get a reveal

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:23.920
<v Speaker 2>maybe why our friend has anger issues. Basically Victor Moran's

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:26.759
<v Speaker 2>kid is in the hospital and so you know you'd

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:30.320
<v Speaker 2>rather but yeah, be with your kid maybe at but whatever.

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:32.880
<v Speaker 2>So he's invested in the case because his life is

0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:36.360
<v Speaker 2>too sad. So then they're you know, at the end

0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:40.520
<v Speaker 2>of the day though, like the offices, the PPEs, what

0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 2>are the what are the name the PPOs? What is

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:49.439
<v Speaker 2>the p one? Pp one? Ppeah? Oh all one pp

0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:51.640
<v Speaker 2>cares about his results at the end of the day,

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:54.680
<v Speaker 2>just get fucking results. And we have a guy in there,

0:47:54.760 --> 0:47:57.680
<v Speaker 2>so let's go, you know, keep nailing this guy. They

0:47:57.680 --> 0:47:59.839
<v Speaker 2>go in. He's in the corner. He split his own

0:47:59.880 --> 0:48:02.480
<v Speaker 2>thre wrote he was so scared of jail he decided

0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:04.799
<v Speaker 2>to slit his own throat and then he said, I

0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 2>didn't mean to hurt anybody, and while he's falling into unconsciousness,

0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 2>and then Finn takes takes that as a confession. So

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Stabler is like, gonna visit the hospital where Marana is

0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:17.279
<v Speaker 2>with his daughter, and she's been like this for five months.

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:20.080
<v Speaker 2>There's a car accident. She's twelve years old. It's very sad.

0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:23.080
<v Speaker 2>He does a monologue, he's you know, he chokes up.

0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:25.920
<v Speaker 2>She's supposed to have a life. And now Stabler sees like,

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:30.319
<v Speaker 2>maybe now that you know his wife is dead and

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:33.440
<v Speaker 2>his child is on a ventilator, that maybe they can

0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:37.640
<v Speaker 2>work together. So Stabler says, solving this case won't bring

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 2>your daughter back. Okay, what a dick, And Sailor's like,

0:48:41.520 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 2>this case isn't about you. It's not about your family.

0:48:44.480 --> 0:48:47.239
<v Speaker 2>You gotta you can't pull away from the squad. You

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:50.239
<v Speaker 2>need to work with people. We and you not getting help.

0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:53.000
<v Speaker 2>The victims pay for it. He gets up and says

0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:54.960
<v Speaker 2>I can do a good job, and Sailor goes, well,

0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:59.040
<v Speaker 2>stop blaming everyone for your shitty situation. Yeah, how many

0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:01.080
<v Speaker 2>things do you think you miss because you're in grief?

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 2>And then he goes how many fresh eyes could have

0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:07.239
<v Speaker 2>helped this? And he goes, Okay, okay, I'll we'll all

0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:11.400
<v Speaker 2>work together. Phone rings another body. So that's a bummer

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:13.600
<v Speaker 2>because that means the suspect, which we knew was not.

0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:16.560
<v Speaker 2>He pissed himself and slit his own throat. It's not

0:49:16.640 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 2>the same guy that glues buttholes and tortures women. Okay,

0:49:20.640 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 2>so the suspect they have is wrong, and uh oh,

0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:28.520
<v Speaker 2>this time the woman is burned. So this is Sarah

0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 2>bral and Victor goes, well, you want to know why

0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:34.799
<v Speaker 2>they he burned her, and we do. So what I

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:36.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't mention earlier was there was a leak to the

0:49:36.960 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 2>press and that there was DNA found, So the press,

0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:43.680
<v Speaker 2>we don't know who leaked the story. It's really fucked up,

0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:47.360
<v Speaker 2>but basically that the cops had DNA from the Pubes

0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 2>was told on the news. And so now he burned

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:55.359
<v Speaker 2>the woman, So now there's no Pubes traumatic music. So

0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:58.120
<v Speaker 2>the balls are chatting and it's confirmed. You know, they

0:49:58.160 --> 0:50:02.600
<v Speaker 2>take a deep sigh. She was burned alive while he

0:50:02.719 --> 0:50:06.480
<v Speaker 2>was in custody, and that's because of like the breathing,

0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:11.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, like the contents wrongs and so so that's

0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:15.760
<v Speaker 2>Melinda info. And but like, what did the suspect confess

0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 2>to then? And that was burglary. And then a dude

0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:21.040
<v Speaker 2>was there and they fought and the victim died of

0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:23.759
<v Speaker 2>a heart attack, so that's what he So this is

0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:26.440
<v Speaker 2>a big scrub. This is a big scrub. But Victor

0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:29.239
<v Speaker 2>defends him and finally he's like, all right, fine, now

0:50:29.280 --> 0:50:33.640
<v Speaker 2>we'll work together. I thought the hospitals when they decided

0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:37.360
<v Speaker 2>to work together, but I guess they needed another woman burned.

0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:41.040
<v Speaker 2>So now they're going to work together. And Craigan goes, wow,

0:50:41.080 --> 0:50:43.719
<v Speaker 2>you finally saw the light. And he goes, yeah, maybe,

0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:46.520
<v Speaker 2>and Craigan goes, you're not a team player, Moran. You

0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:49.839
<v Speaker 2>hold anything else back and I'll have your ass and

0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:53.200
<v Speaker 2>then okay. It's like Moran's like hands up, all right, dude,

0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm ready to work. I'm ready to work. Stabler

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 2>has his thinking face on and just looking and looking

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:01.680
<v Speaker 2>and he sees something. So him and morand get Cooken.

0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:06.160
<v Speaker 2>All victims, same age, but very racially socially and professionally

0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:09.520
<v Speaker 2>and physically different all over the place, Like but what

0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:12.120
<v Speaker 2>are the what are the similarities? Like what are the

0:51:12.160 --> 0:51:15.160
<v Speaker 2>ones that he did not sexually assault? Like what's what's

0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:20.360
<v Speaker 2>going on there? And so basically like one the Morgue photos, blonde,

0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 2>but she had a red hair, and then also like

0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:26.200
<v Speaker 2>one of them, didn't have natural pubes, Like the pubes

0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:28.439
<v Speaker 2>and the hair color didn't match, he didn't rape them,

0:51:28.560 --> 0:51:32.160
<v Speaker 2>so and like one had fake tits and so basically

0:51:32.200 --> 0:51:38.200
<v Speaker 2>he hates like fake tits, not natural colored hair stuff

0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:42.120
<v Speaker 2>like that. So so that changes the profile, Moran says

0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:44.799
<v Speaker 2>to over forty, you know, because he probably got into

0:51:44.840 --> 0:51:50.000
<v Speaker 2>his psychosexual types when he hit puberty, which happened before

0:51:50.080 --> 0:51:53.440
<v Speaker 2>plastic surgery was like so common and dyeing your hair

0:51:53.440 --> 0:51:56.840
<v Speaker 2>and whatnot. So that's why his type. I mean, this

0:51:56.960 --> 0:51:58.640
<v Speaker 2>is sick for them.

0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Like they figure that they get to that shit real quick,

0:52:01.920 --> 0:52:04.080
<v Speaker 1>like they're like, okay, never mind, move the age up,

0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:06.400
<v Speaker 1>like they know everything about.

0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:09.200
<v Speaker 2>This guy suddenly, yeah, just because he like likes the natural.

0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:12.920
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so this also means he's been doing it

0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:14.920
<v Speaker 2>forever and he's been studying, and I bet he's like

0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:18.960
<v Speaker 2>a true crime like junkie. And then Munch comes in

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:23.279
<v Speaker 2>with some DNA. So basically there's like three people with

0:52:23.680 --> 0:52:28.000
<v Speaker 2>DNA that is shared with whoever this person is. So

0:52:28.040 --> 0:52:31.080
<v Speaker 2>they go to one guy. He's yelling about child support

0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:33.400
<v Speaker 2>and then he does have a brother, but the brother

0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:36.280
<v Speaker 2>is dead so it can't be him. So then Munch

0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:39.440
<v Speaker 2>also obviously does not like this. It's an invasion of privacy.

0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:42.359
<v Speaker 2>We're bothering people, and Finn keeps saying there's six dead women.

0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:44.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't give a shit. So then Victor and Stable

0:52:44.800 --> 0:52:46.839
<v Speaker 2>are harassing a woman and she doesn't want to talk

0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:48.880
<v Speaker 2>to the cops. But she has four brothers. She doesn't

0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:51.640
<v Speaker 2>know where they are. Two are in school, one works

0:52:51.640 --> 0:52:53.680
<v Speaker 2>for the airline, and one lives down south.

0:52:54.600 --> 0:52:57.160
<v Speaker 1>So they also just fully bullied her, and we're like,

0:52:57.239 --> 0:52:59.680
<v Speaker 1>tell us or we'll arrest you, like they just they.

0:52:59.560 --> 0:53:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Really like or not being good cops here. No, And

0:53:02.920 --> 0:53:05.960
<v Speaker 2>then someone in jail is also related to him, but

0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:08.759
<v Speaker 2>he's like, well, for fifty dollars if you want info,

0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:11.080
<v Speaker 2>fifty dollars, I need money in here, and Craige goes, damn,

0:53:11.080 --> 0:53:13.320
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna like sell out your brother for fifty bucks,

0:53:13.600 --> 0:53:15.080
<v Speaker 2>and he goes, well, if I thought he did it,

0:53:15.120 --> 0:53:17.239
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't do that. But I know he did it,

0:53:17.360 --> 0:53:21.280
<v Speaker 2>so give me my fifty dollars. And then basically his brother,

0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Tyrese is an active duty military. He's in Afghanistan. It's confirmed,

0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:27.759
<v Speaker 2>and so he didn't Yeah, he got fifty bucks, so

0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:31.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm happy for him. And the dead guy is confirmed

0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:32.840
<v Speaker 2>as well, so it has to be one of these brothers.

0:53:32.840 --> 0:53:35.839
<v Speaker 2>There are crow brothers. There's Mark or Currow who works

0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:38.200
<v Speaker 2>for the airlines, Luke and North Carolina Farmer, and then

0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:40.800
<v Speaker 2>the two others are not in school, ones in rehab

0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:44.040
<v Speaker 2>and the other like, we can't find him, so we're like,

0:53:44.080 --> 0:53:46.720
<v Speaker 2>it was probably this airline guy. We see the picture

0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:52.440
<v Speaker 2>and then we realize. The squad realizes that in every

0:53:52.600 --> 0:53:55.399
<v Speaker 2>crime scene photo there's fresh luggage in the photo. There

0:53:55.480 --> 0:53:58.600
<v Speaker 2>is luggage in the corner of every single like of

0:53:58.640 --> 0:54:01.239
<v Speaker 2>the crime scenes. And then they look in and some

0:54:01.320 --> 0:54:03.600
<v Speaker 2>of the women had just come back from a trip.

0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:06.319
<v Speaker 2>So then I look what he does for the airlines.

0:54:06.719 --> 0:54:09.560
<v Speaker 2>He is a delivery man and he returns lost luggage.

0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:14.960
<v Speaker 2>That's how he gets in. It's so crazy, Like my

0:54:15.000 --> 0:54:17.479
<v Speaker 2>friend just moved into a new apartment and she doesn't

0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:19.880
<v Speaker 2>have curtains yet and it faces another building which is

0:54:20.000 --> 0:54:22.520
<v Speaker 2>like and a lot of people don't have curtains, And

0:54:22.560 --> 0:54:25.520
<v Speaker 2>I was being like, do not always turn off your

0:54:25.560 --> 0:54:28.560
<v Speaker 2>lights when you leave? Keep them guessing, like leave lights on?

0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:31.240
<v Speaker 2>Don't always know, Like so no one knows your schedule,

0:54:31.320 --> 0:54:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Like no one can know your schedule and she's like,

0:54:34.000 --> 0:54:35.799
<v Speaker 2>you need to you need to stop. You need to

0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:39.880
<v Speaker 2>watch less, you need to watch less. And now in

0:54:39.960 --> 0:54:44.760
<v Speaker 2>this moment, it's like, yeah, like I would never allow

0:54:44.800 --> 0:54:50.080
<v Speaker 2>an airline person into your apartment. No, I'll teck me

0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:50.600
<v Speaker 2>when you get here.

0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:53.399
<v Speaker 1>I'll meet you on the street, Like yeah, I mean no,

0:54:53.520 --> 0:54:55.160
<v Speaker 1>we're not doing coming into my house.

0:54:56.000 --> 0:54:59.439
<v Speaker 2>This is like the scariest fucking thing and it could

0:54:59.440 --> 0:55:05.920
<v Speaker 2>be anyone. Oh my god. So okay, so this has

0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:09.680
<v Speaker 2>me scared forever. Okay, he and then he is delivering

0:55:09.719 --> 0:55:12.440
<v Speaker 2>things right now, he has a new victim. Like it's scary,

0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:14.640
<v Speaker 2>it's upsetting, like he is in action. We need to

0:55:14.680 --> 0:55:17.799
<v Speaker 2>fucking get to him. So he locks the door, he

0:55:17.840 --> 0:55:20.960
<v Speaker 2>wheels it in, and she's like, oh yeah, put it

0:55:21.000 --> 0:55:21.680
<v Speaker 2>in the bedroom.

0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:25.400
<v Speaker 1>What She just walks in, turns her back on a

0:55:25.400 --> 0:55:28.400
<v Speaker 1>stranger who's behind her, like crazy.

0:55:28.440 --> 0:55:32.440
<v Speaker 2>And says, go put my suitcase into my bedroom. So

0:55:32.480 --> 0:55:35.719
<v Speaker 2>he locks the door, he wheels it in. He's he's casual,

0:55:35.760 --> 0:55:40.080
<v Speaker 2>he's having fun, casual chats like blah blah blah. She's blonde.

0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:44.520
<v Speaker 2>He looks sneaky. He starts the attack and then Stable

0:55:44.600 --> 0:55:47.480
<v Speaker 2>has him right away. The blonde woman's an undercover cop. Yeah,

0:55:47.640 --> 0:55:51.160
<v Speaker 2>not a real victim, think fucking god, holy shit, you're done, bitch.

0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:54.880
<v Speaker 2>They find everything they need in his van, everything he

0:55:54.920 --> 0:55:58.000
<v Speaker 2>needs for the crime, and on his sheet all the

0:55:58.040 --> 0:56:01.440
<v Speaker 2>female names are circled. He is awful. He is smirking.

0:56:01.800 --> 0:56:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Maran like leaps at him and the dude flinches, but

0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:07.880
<v Speaker 2>still the six smile, confidence silent. He knows not to

0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:10.960
<v Speaker 2>talk to the cops. Maran of course, calls him a

0:56:11.000 --> 0:56:13.239
<v Speaker 2>son of a bitch. And this dude is creepy. His

0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:16.880
<v Speaker 2>name is Nelson Vesquez. He hasn't acted in like fifteen years,

0:56:16.880 --> 0:56:19.520
<v Speaker 2>but what a performance like that? Or yeah, what a

0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:22.600
<v Speaker 2>fucking freak. They have him in cement room bars. He's

0:56:22.640 --> 0:56:24.719
<v Speaker 2>playing the game. He knows. He oh, I don't know

0:56:24.760 --> 0:56:27.640
<v Speaker 2>these women. I don't I love women. Anyone that knows

0:56:27.680 --> 0:56:29.520
<v Speaker 2>me would tell you that I love women. And then

0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Maran ice cold, anybody that knows the real you is dead,

0:56:33.640 --> 0:56:36.400
<v Speaker 2>and you know he's an asshole. He's playing games like oh,

0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:41.560
<v Speaker 2>I feel bad for their families, and they're like ah, there,

0:56:41.640 --> 0:56:43.279
<v Speaker 2>and then they start talking, right, they're trying to get

0:56:43.440 --> 0:56:47.520
<v Speaker 2>is like dick hard, which is like a common threat. Yes,

0:56:49.200 --> 0:56:51.400
<v Speaker 2>so they're like, ah, yeah, you like the hunt. The

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:53.719
<v Speaker 2>only time you feel excitement in your life, the only

0:56:53.760 --> 0:56:57.000
<v Speaker 2>time you feel anything is that moment right before. And

0:56:57.040 --> 0:57:01.360
<v Speaker 2>then she rejects you, and you get raged and punched people,

0:57:01.800 --> 0:57:04.839
<v Speaker 2>and then they're helpless and bleeding and you tie them

0:57:04.920 --> 0:57:08.719
<v Speaker 2>up and then he's like licking his lips and he's like,

0:57:08.960 --> 0:57:10.680
<v Speaker 2>and that's when you know you can have him for

0:57:10.719 --> 0:57:12.880
<v Speaker 2>as long as you want. And then they go, and

0:57:12.920 --> 0:57:14.680
<v Speaker 2>then you look up at what you've done and you're

0:57:14.719 --> 0:57:18.120
<v Speaker 2>pumped with power. You're so proud and you show it

0:57:18.160 --> 0:57:21.320
<v Speaker 2>off with the poses and he goes, you don't know me,

0:57:21.560 --> 0:57:24.400
<v Speaker 2>and then Stabler says, well, we will because we're searching

0:57:24.440 --> 0:57:28.120
<v Speaker 2>your apartment. His face falls. We're going through your private things.

0:57:28.120 --> 0:57:31.200
<v Speaker 2>How do you like that, mister Akurro And he says

0:57:31.280 --> 0:57:34.360
<v Speaker 2>he wants a lawyer now, So shit's getting serious. Finn

0:57:34.360 --> 0:57:37.160
<v Speaker 2>and Muncher at the house. It is clean, clean, clean

0:57:37.240 --> 0:57:40.760
<v Speaker 2>as hell, and a lot of creepy books about forensics,

0:57:40.800 --> 0:57:45.160
<v Speaker 2>transcripts from serial killer courtroom, Like, I don't know, I

0:57:45.200 --> 0:57:47.320
<v Speaker 2>always like, I always want to be the person for

0:57:47.360 --> 0:57:49.880
<v Speaker 2>this podcast that like reads the court documents and the

0:57:49.960 --> 0:57:54.920
<v Speaker 2>FBI reports, and it's like I'm just too I don't know, phone,

0:57:55.080 --> 0:57:59.280
<v Speaker 2>but honey, they're hard to read. I don't know how.

0:57:59.480 --> 0:58:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how these lawyers do it. I don't know.

0:58:02.640 --> 0:58:03.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:58:03.520 --> 0:58:05.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't, I truly don't.

0:58:05.560 --> 0:58:07.160
<v Speaker 1>As someone, my parents used to always be like, you're

0:58:07.160 --> 0:58:08.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a lawyer when you grow up because you

0:58:08.520 --> 0:58:10.720
<v Speaker 1>have to argue, and I'm like, no, not once I

0:58:10.760 --> 0:58:12.760
<v Speaker 1>see what they have to do, like I can't, that's

0:58:12.800 --> 0:58:13.200
<v Speaker 1>too much.

0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:15.320
<v Speaker 3>The reading the cases. The font.

0:58:15.400 --> 0:58:20.040
<v Speaker 1>It's the font honestly of the court cases that I'm like, immediately,

0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:22.640
<v Speaker 1>this is I can't read it, like it's not going

0:58:22.680 --> 0:58:23.360
<v Speaker 1>into my eyes.

0:58:24.200 --> 0:58:29.160
<v Speaker 2>It's so bad. But yeah, So then Munch is so smart.

0:58:29.200 --> 0:58:32.120
<v Speaker 2>He sees three frames hanging in this clean, clean, very

0:58:32.160 --> 0:58:35.760
<v Speaker 2>precise home, but the wires are crossed at the top

0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:38.320
<v Speaker 2>at the nail where they're hanging, and he goes, I'm sorry,

0:58:38.360 --> 0:58:41.520
<v Speaker 2>like there's no fucking way it would be crooked, and

0:58:41.560 --> 0:58:43.600
<v Speaker 2>he would allow that if it wasn't for a reason,

0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:46.320
<v Speaker 2>they flipped the art over. It goes from bridges to bound,

0:58:46.480 --> 0:58:50.360
<v Speaker 2>tied and gagged women. Okay, So now Jerry Ryan is

0:58:50.360 --> 0:58:52.720
<v Speaker 2>his lawyer, and of course it's like poor and is legal.

0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:55.160
<v Speaker 2>You can have porn. You can't connect the magazines to

0:58:55.200 --> 0:58:59.200
<v Speaker 2>the crime. They're like, hello, pubes match, there's a link, babe,

0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:03.640
<v Speaker 2>and cabots this ponytail. She's killing it and Petrovsky does not.

0:59:03.760 --> 0:59:06.600
<v Speaker 2>She's like, how the six cases are one case? Like

0:59:06.640 --> 0:59:09.000
<v Speaker 2>what are we doing here? But it applies. It works,

0:59:09.000 --> 0:59:10.880
<v Speaker 2>like if you're guilty of one, you're guilty of all six.

0:59:10.960 --> 0:59:13.840
<v Speaker 2>That's what they're saying, like they're so identical. And Jerry

0:59:13.880 --> 0:59:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Ryan's like, listen, you know he used the bathroom. It

0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:19.160
<v Speaker 2>happens pubes fly and it's like, okay, he went to

0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:21.720
<v Speaker 2>the bathroom. There's not one print, but his pubes are everywhere,

0:59:21.960 --> 0:59:28.000
<v Speaker 2>and she's quick, my client doesn't wash his hands all right?

0:59:28.720 --> 0:59:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Then they fight back and forth, what's like, what is

0:59:31.920 --> 0:59:34.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna happen? And Petrovsky does not like how cocky Jernaly

0:59:34.840 --> 0:59:37.439
<v Speaker 2>Ryan is being like that the case won't go to trial,

0:59:37.480 --> 0:59:39.280
<v Speaker 2>and she goes, how about an alibi? How about that?

0:59:39.800 --> 0:59:42.360
<v Speaker 2>So the time of Casey's murder, there's a witness, the

0:59:42.400 --> 0:59:44.800
<v Speaker 2>mom and the whole Bridge club that says that he

0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:48.400
<v Speaker 2>was at her house and so if he didn't do

0:59:48.440 --> 0:59:50.120
<v Speaker 2>this one, he didn't do all six isn't that what

0:59:50.160 --> 0:59:54.280
<v Speaker 2>you said? Blah blah blah. He grins evilly and like

0:59:54.360 --> 0:59:56.240
<v Speaker 2>she has to dismiss the case and it sucks, so

0:59:56.320 --> 0:59:58.680
<v Speaker 2>we hate him. Stabler and Victor go talk to his

0:59:58.760 --> 1:00:00.960
<v Speaker 2>mom and she works in a coffee and she's like,

1:00:01.000 --> 1:00:03.040
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I know it's about Mark. I'm sorry

1:00:03.080 --> 1:00:05.400
<v Speaker 2>to say my son was with me. I know he

1:00:05.440 --> 1:00:07.720
<v Speaker 2>belongs in prison. I've known this for a long time.

1:00:08.240 --> 1:00:10.080
<v Speaker 2>She's like, he called me out of the blue, wanting

1:00:10.120 --> 1:00:13.360
<v Speaker 2>to come over and there, and you know, she doesn't

1:00:13.440 --> 1:00:15.720
<v Speaker 2>like to be alone with him because he's so scary,

1:00:15.800 --> 1:00:18.520
<v Speaker 2>so she invited her bridge club over so she didn't

1:00:18.560 --> 1:00:20.200
<v Speaker 2>have to hang out with him because he's tied a

1:00:20.240 --> 1:00:22.600
<v Speaker 2>cat to a bust. Once he dropped another from a

1:00:22.640 --> 1:00:25.160
<v Speaker 2>six floor walk up. She goes, he is a mistake

1:00:25.520 --> 1:00:29.640
<v Speaker 2>mine or God's and she says he wouldn't leave and

1:00:29.680 --> 1:00:32.480
<v Speaker 2>she said, like, ugh, it pains her, and he stayed

1:00:32.520 --> 1:00:35.360
<v Speaker 2>the whole day and she's like, just wanted him to leave.

1:00:35.600 --> 1:00:37.800
<v Speaker 3>She's like, he knows I don't like him, like he

1:00:37.920 --> 1:00:38.360
<v Speaker 3>why was.

1:00:38.360 --> 1:00:38.960
<v Speaker 2>He coming over?

1:00:39.120 --> 1:00:40.360
<v Speaker 3>He knows I hate him?

1:00:40.400 --> 1:00:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Like uh, And so that means he planned this, so

1:00:43.920 --> 1:00:46.720
<v Speaker 2>like he plans everything he like learns, he reads, he's

1:00:46.760 --> 1:00:49.000
<v Speaker 2>all the books, Like, what's going on? Something's going on?

1:00:49.120 --> 1:00:52.240
<v Speaker 2>How can they get this guy? So we only know

1:00:52.280 --> 1:00:54.520
<v Speaker 2>how she died because of Warner's d comp So like

1:00:54.880 --> 1:00:57.120
<v Speaker 2>what if the hours are wrong? Like what if there's

1:00:57.160 --> 1:01:00.520
<v Speaker 2>a mistake there? But Melinda doesn't make mistakes? So they're like,

1:01:00.600 --> 1:01:04.920
<v Speaker 2>can can the decomposition have happened more rapidly? So they're brainstorming,

1:01:04.920 --> 1:01:07.280
<v Speaker 2>brains storming, like how could they have gotten like how

1:01:07.280 --> 1:01:09.400
<v Speaker 2>could he have fucked with the decomp and the timing

1:01:09.520 --> 1:01:12.640
<v Speaker 2>and the alibi? They they know it's him and then

1:01:12.680 --> 1:01:15.240
<v Speaker 2>their fate. Oh my god, the Kiln. She did ceramics,

1:01:15.280 --> 1:01:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Casey did ceramics. What if the Kiln was used to

1:01:19.680 --> 1:01:22.400
<v Speaker 2>do this? And I love a Kiln centric storyline. I

1:01:22.400 --> 1:01:24.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know if I'm also should I not be doing

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<v Speaker 2>the l Kiln? No?

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<v Speaker 1>The reason this pocus, Yeah, the reason I suggested this

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<v Speaker 1>episode is because my friend Jackie, who does ceramics, and

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<v Speaker 1>the time I see her, she goes, when are you

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<v Speaker 1>guys gonna do the Kiln episode?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, oh, yeah, we gotta do that one.

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<v Speaker 2>So I put it on the list. Yeah to me,

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<v Speaker 2>it says I forgot about the kiln, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>that's yeah, that's for her, probably sticks out as a memory.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, it's, oh my god, this is the this

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<v Speaker 2>is fucked, this is so fucked. Yeah. So they go

1:01:55.320 --> 1:01:57.080
<v Speaker 2>back in there to do some and they're like, oh

1:01:57.080 --> 1:02:00.200
<v Speaker 2>my god, the window is open, so what is going

1:01:59.880 --> 1:02:03.600
<v Speaker 2>on here? And Cragan's like, but we weren't even onto him,

1:02:03.680 --> 1:02:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Like how would he have known that this alibi was

1:02:06.480 --> 1:02:08.480
<v Speaker 2>going to be needed in the window and the kiln?

1:02:08.680 --> 1:02:11.280
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, well, he studies other cases, Like he

1:02:11.400 --> 1:02:13.560
<v Speaker 2>was just prepared if he ever made a mistake. This

1:02:13.680 --> 1:02:15.360
<v Speaker 2>is like his fucking life, right.

1:02:15.720 --> 1:02:18.320
<v Speaker 1>And so but also how could he have how could

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<v Speaker 1>he have found a victim with a kiln in her apartment,

1:02:23.120 --> 1:02:25.720
<v Speaker 1>like when he has to go to people that have

1:02:25.800 --> 1:02:27.480
<v Speaker 1>luggage that he's delivered, right.

1:02:27.760 --> 1:02:30.080
<v Speaker 2>I think it was random and it was like an opportunity.

1:02:30.120 --> 1:02:32.920
<v Speaker 2>It was like a chance of oppotunety of like oh fuck.

1:02:33.680 --> 1:02:36.320
<v Speaker 2>But maybe he was always doing alibi, like we don't

1:02:36.360 --> 1:02:40.360
<v Speaker 2>know what his journey has been. But also I was thinking,

1:02:40.360 --> 1:02:43.200
<v Speaker 2>like he circled all the women's names, like how does

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<v Speaker 2>he have to do a lot of deliveries in a

1:02:44.440 --> 1:02:45.880
<v Speaker 2>date is he always do the last one? Does he

1:02:45.880 --> 1:02:48.440
<v Speaker 2>look them up online? Like how does he choose? Is

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<v Speaker 2>it in the moment? And then like how do you

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<v Speaker 2>get the other ones? Or are you allowed to be late?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I was, I am curious about like the scheduling

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<v Speaker 2>of it as well. But anyways, so ugh so, but

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<v Speaker 2>thrown out for one murder, it means walks on all

1:03:02.520 --> 1:03:04.360
<v Speaker 2>there's no prince in the kiln? Like, how do we

1:03:04.440 --> 1:03:07.200
<v Speaker 2>prove it? And Finn has an answer. The power company

1:03:07.320 --> 1:03:10.160
<v Speaker 2>just confirmed that Casey Chapman's killawa hours doubled the day

1:03:10.200 --> 1:03:12.920
<v Speaker 2>of her murder, So fuck you, alibi. He was with

1:03:12.960 --> 1:03:16.360
<v Speaker 2>the mom on Sunday, killed her on Monday and then

1:03:16.480 --> 1:03:18.960
<v Speaker 2>thought he got away with it, and so what we

1:03:19.000 --> 1:03:21.000
<v Speaker 2>got him? So they go to the suitcase area in

1:03:21.000 --> 1:03:23.680
<v Speaker 2>a rush and the guy goes what terrorism and they're

1:03:23.680 --> 1:03:27.680
<v Speaker 2>like no, we're looking for Mark and so then he's

1:03:27.720 --> 1:03:30.520
<v Speaker 2>making deliveries. Now, okay, let's say this guy was found

1:03:30.520 --> 1:03:33.040
<v Speaker 2>not guilty. Like he's not even suspended for a week.

1:03:33.160 --> 1:03:36.440
<v Speaker 2>I know, he doesn't miss a day of work, not

1:03:36.560 --> 1:03:38.200
<v Speaker 2>even an internal investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>They've tailed people for way less. This is a fucking

1:03:41.800 --> 1:03:46.520
<v Speaker 1>serial killer. Had they've kept off uniformed officers on guys

1:03:46.560 --> 1:03:48.240
<v Speaker 1>before like, it is kind of wild.

1:03:48.600 --> 1:03:49.760
<v Speaker 3>I definitely clogged that.

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<v Speaker 2>So they got to get to him. Faster's twelve women

1:03:52.200 --> 1:03:53.920
<v Speaker 2>on the list, so they're trying to call him. He's

1:03:53.920 --> 1:03:56.440
<v Speaker 2>not answering. They need to get to the women. Blondeberd

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<v Speaker 2>and then they realized the order of the magazine art

1:03:58.800 --> 1:04:02.520
<v Speaker 2>on his wall was blonde, brunette, redhead, blonde brunette, redhead,

1:04:02.640 --> 1:04:05.120
<v Speaker 2>So who's a redhead? We need to find a redhead.

1:04:05.120 --> 1:04:07.520
<v Speaker 2>So like Finn's looking up the women and then we

1:04:07.560 --> 1:04:09.800
<v Speaker 2>have a redhead. And then so they catch a mid attack.

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<v Speaker 2>She's crying, oh my god, can you believe the luck?

1:04:13.080 --> 1:04:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully this is you know, before she's glued and so

1:04:16.160 --> 1:04:20.800
<v Speaker 2>she's tied and naked, and Stabler covers her with a

1:04:20.840 --> 1:04:23.400
<v Speaker 2>suit jacket and says, you're safe. Now what a gentleman,

1:04:24.400 --> 1:04:27.080
<v Speaker 2>I tie her. Okay, but Moran starts like I would

1:04:27.080 --> 1:04:30.440
<v Speaker 2>be so uncomfortable, like I just, oh my god, I'd

1:04:30.480 --> 1:04:32.960
<v Speaker 2>be like, you can truly look in my pussy untimey,

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<v Speaker 2>like untimy, Oh my god, I just do not like

1:04:38.440 --> 1:04:44.959
<v Speaker 2>restraints in that way. Stress trust, stressful. So okay, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's got Moran starts beating the ship of this guy

1:04:47.440 --> 1:04:49.440
<v Speaker 2>and Stable's like, can you please stop? We cannot, like

1:04:49.480 --> 1:04:52.880
<v Speaker 2>we need him in jail. So then okay, we got

1:04:52.880 --> 1:04:54.880
<v Speaker 2>the guy. We got the guy. So now Stabler and

1:04:54.960 --> 1:04:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Miran meet at the hospital Joys and surgery, and Miran goes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a good thing. And so the good news and

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<v Speaker 2>a cura, you know, they talked and Racurro did confess,

1:05:04.720 --> 1:05:07.120
<v Speaker 2>and he confessed to other crimes in the Dominican Republic,

1:05:07.200 --> 1:05:09.680
<v Speaker 2>so it's a global serial killer. And then all of

1:05:09.720 --> 1:05:12.880
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, Stabler realizes these organs are being taken out,

1:05:12.960 --> 1:05:15.960
<v Speaker 2>they're being donated. His daughter is gone, so this is sad.

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<v Speaker 2>So Stabler's like, this is sad, so but it is

1:05:18.480 --> 1:05:20.400
<v Speaker 2>a good thing to help others. And I get that

1:05:20.480 --> 1:05:23.720
<v Speaker 2>a second chance. Everyone needs one. Moran walks off with

1:05:23.800 --> 1:05:26.520
<v Speaker 2>tears in his eyes. We want the best for him.

1:05:26.920 --> 1:05:29.919
<v Speaker 2>And then Stabler watches him go, you know, like touch

1:05:29.960 --> 1:05:33.920
<v Speaker 2>his daughter who's under a sheet, and he's haunted. And

1:05:33.920 --> 1:05:36.720
<v Speaker 2>then the credits roll and that is Dick.

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<v Speaker 3>Who it is a dark one.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he blames he blames the serial killer also

1:05:42.360 --> 1:05:44.400
<v Speaker 1>for what happened to his wife and kid, right, because

1:05:44.440 --> 1:05:47.120
<v Speaker 1>he was. He was out working on the case, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's when his wife got pissed and got in the

1:05:48.960 --> 1:05:51.680
<v Speaker 1>car and they got into the accident. Right, So that's

1:05:51.760 --> 1:05:54.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of why he does the like I care about

1:05:54.160 --> 1:05:58.360
<v Speaker 1>this case more than you bullshit. But it's still crazy

1:05:58.400 --> 1:05:59.960
<v Speaker 1>to be like, no one else can solve it a

1:06:00.000 --> 1:06:02.120
<v Speaker 1>except for me. It's like a level of hubris that's

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully now meeting Stabler, he's learned his lesson. But of

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<v Speaker 1>course I don't think we ever see him back. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think Victor Marin ever comes back for like another collab.

1:06:11.400 --> 1:06:14.320
<v Speaker 2>No, no, he doesn't. But he works, he's working, he's working.

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<v Speaker 2>I like, yes, okay, let's get into this.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a few crimes like listed as what this

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<v Speaker 1>could be about. I didn't really think some of the

1:06:31.600 --> 1:06:33.560
<v Speaker 1>other ones fit some of them. One of them was

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<v Speaker 1>about like a guy who was a serial killer I

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<v Speaker 1>believe in the Chicago area. But he had like a

1:06:38.400 --> 1:06:40.919
<v Speaker 1>he had like a forced confession from the cops, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is more along the storyline of what happened

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<v Speaker 1>to the guy that Peanut kicked the shit out of.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not really focusing on that one for today.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to focus on Francisco Dea cis Pereira, the

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<v Speaker 1>Park Maniac. I will start by saying, this man is Brazilian.

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<v Speaker 1>These crimes took place in Brazil, and it is extremely

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<v Speaker 1>hard to find any English resources about this case. So

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<v Speaker 1>I watched a four part Amazon Prime series called The

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<v Speaker 1>Park Maniac colon the Untold Story. It's all the people

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<v Speaker 1>that it was produced in Portuguese. But then when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>watching it, I'm hearing the English dubbing. They've literally hired

1:07:20.680 --> 1:07:23.960
<v Speaker 1>a different actor for every person. It feels like AI

1:07:24.840 --> 1:07:28.000
<v Speaker 1>did the voice over. The translations are bad, the words

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<v Speaker 1>are like wrong to the subtitles. At times, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like some of the vo people are like laughing when

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<v Speaker 1>they're saying something serious, like they're being like and then

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<v Speaker 1>they found a dead body and you're like, oh my god, why.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's a wild experience to watch, like a

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<v Speaker 1>docu series that you could tell if you were watching

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<v Speaker 1>it in Portuguese is probably very well done and serious

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<v Speaker 1>and it's modern. I think it came out in like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, but the vo of it all, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this is it was like making my

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<v Speaker 1>head spin.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm going with what I could find on this case.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not insanely similar, but I can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of see where people think that this is drawn from.

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<v Speaker 1>But so this all takes place in South Powlo, Brazil,

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<v Speaker 1>which in the late nineties, I guess, there was like

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<v Speaker 1>an epidemic of violence, like fifteen homicides a day, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's just really a brutal time in that city. On

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<v Speaker 1>July fourth of nineteen ninety eight, two young female victims

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<v Speaker 1>are discovered in a state park that's literally just called

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<v Speaker 1>Parque Dostado, which is you know, means state park outside

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<v Speaker 1>of South Parlo, Paolo. It's or it's on the outskirts

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<v Speaker 1>of South Parlow and it's not a very trafficked park,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's very dense. There's hiking trails, but you really

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<v Speaker 1>have to know your way around to get in and

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<v Speaker 1>out of there. They say, they start searching more areas

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<v Speaker 1>of the woods, they find more bodies, and a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of the bodies that they found had just been killed,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they found other bodies of people who had

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<v Speaker 1>been killed months earlier. So this is obviously somebody's like

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<v Speaker 1>dumping spot. One of the victims was Selma Ferreira Kia

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<v Speaker 1>spot just reminds me of Decks. Sure, I know, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think of anything. Oh the New Dexters are

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<v Speaker 1>you watching? I haven't got a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched two or three. I just can't. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>the actor that plays Young Angel is doing an incredible job.

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<v Speaker 2>It is on point, Christian slan Christian Slater. I I

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<v Speaker 2>just am not feeling and I'm realiter in it, like

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<v Speaker 2>young right, the young dad, like Dexter's dad.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really but he's alive, not coming to him in dreams, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the whole thing is like Dexter is a

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<v Speaker 2>teen Okay, Dexter's a teen boy, and it's like and

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<v Speaker 2>the sister, they're in high school or college.

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<v Speaker 1>They're in college. He's in med school when it starts. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I forget when the dad died. Is the dad

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<v Speaker 1>is Christian Slater alive or like ghosty.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, a lot. He's alive. Father. They're both at

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<v Speaker 2>the police station right now together, like you see the

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<v Speaker 2>origin and why he's try why he started bringing donuts

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<v Speaker 2>like you kind of like seeah, so you're like he's

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<v Speaker 2>in his twenties, he's trying to get it together, like

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<v Speaker 2>he thought med school and like cutting people open would

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<v Speaker 2>make him feel better, and it's not. And so it's

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<v Speaker 2>his first kill. It's that.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like that's where we're at. Okay, I might

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<v Speaker 1>still give it a spin, but I would love for

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<v Speaker 1>you to give it a spin. And so the Ghost Angel,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no, it's a narrator. So Michael Sea Hall is

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<v Speaker 1>the narrator. Uh huh, that's how he's still involved, gotcha, gotcha?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let me let us know how you feel. I

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<v Speaker 2>just have was not I'm not, and I'm a Dexter fanatic. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought they did a pretty good job with the

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<v Speaker 2>I love new Blood, the new Blood, yeah, loved it,

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, I wish it was continued with that young

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<v Speaker 2>man and then Dexter's ghost dad or whatnot. And then

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't know why that's not what it is true.

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<v Speaker 2>I was into that kid. I like the park Ranger woman,

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah, that villain that was so good. Like the story.

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<v Speaker 2>I like loved new Blood. That's why I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's why it's like upset.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, back to our little Brazilian Dexter.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh but you meet young like the Emmy like like

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<v Speaker 2>the perverse the perverse, Like it's like a young pervert.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. That's why I want to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>I also kind of want to see what new young

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<v Speaker 1>deb is.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a young Angel is a I mean he well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's such I don't want to say impersonation because that's

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<v Speaker 2>like really it's like truly mannerisms, language cadence, like kills it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm impressed. Yeah, and the wardrobe of like the Young

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<v Speaker 2>Angel is really impressive. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Famously Old Angel married to Liza Colonzias from The Bear

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<v Speaker 1>All These Connects, who was also in the SVU. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're finding all these bodies. One of the victims

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<v Speaker 1>is Selma Ferrera Kiros, who was an eighteen year old

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<v Speaker 1>whose family had been searching for her since she had

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<v Speaker 1>gone missing like the day before, and they had actually

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<v Speaker 1>received they had paged her and then they got calls

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<v Speaker 1>back from a person that was like I need this

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<v Speaker 1>much money to give her back to you, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, let us talk to her, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>like no, and then he would hang up and he

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<v Speaker 1>would call back, but then he just they stopped hearing

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<v Speaker 1>from him. So she was one of the victims they

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<v Speaker 1>found it was very hard to find a comprehensive list

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<v Speaker 1>of all the victims, like of all nine of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But another victim was Rosa Alves Netta, who was twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Raquel Mota Rodriguez, twenty three, was found separately in the

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<v Speaker 1>park months earlier. They didn't connect it as a you

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about the cops fucking up, they didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>There's cop fuck ups all over this. They didn't connect

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<v Speaker 1>this death to these other deaths immediately because even though

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<v Speaker 1>she was found in her underwear, face down in the dirt,

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<v Speaker 1>the coroner said her death was from natural causes. So

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<v Speaker 1>she was just in the in the woods, you know, naked,

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<v Speaker 1>and ended up with her face in the dirt.

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<v Speaker 3>She had, you know, a natural death that way.

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<v Speaker 1>So Raquel's cousin got a call from Raquel saying, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I met this guy named Chico. He's gonna he's actually

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<v Speaker 1>a talent scout. He's gonna take pictures of me for modeling.

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<v Speaker 1>And her cousin's like, don't do that. But she went

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<v Speaker 1>and then other women came forward after saying that they'd

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<v Speaker 1>run in you know that happened with my best friends

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<v Speaker 1>to DM. This was Chicago days, so you know, pre

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen. But like someone was like, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>take photos of you, so we went. We met in

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<v Speaker 1>a public but but I went with her to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just like stood on the side and was watching.

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<v Speaker 1>So nothing like that. I'm glad you went, Jesus. But

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of women came forward saying, oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I've had a run in with this guy who also

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<v Speaker 1>approached me and said he was a modeling scout, blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah to a few. Other victims were Michelle Dos

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<v Speaker 1>Santos Martinez aged twenty e Los Angelo Francisco da Silva

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one, Patricia Gonsalvez Marino, twenty four and so all

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<v Speaker 1>these bodies in this remote park were like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a serial killer on the loose. And so a

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<v Speaker 1>Brazilian magazine called Veja broke the story and they started

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<v Speaker 1>calling the killer the park maniac or the State park

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<v Speaker 1>maniac or also he had the nickname Modo Boy. All

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<v Speaker 1>the bodies were naked, lying face down with their legs spread,

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<v Speaker 1>so similar from the episode in the sense that it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of bodies, it's a lot of women the

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<v Speaker 1>same age, same profile, and that they were sort of

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<v Speaker 1>posed after death.

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<v Speaker 3>There was no butthole glue. They were not hogtied.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not quite as a graphic, but still horrific.

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<v Speaker 1>Police subsequently added those other victims that they had found

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<v Speaker 1>in that area in January in May of the same year,

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<v Speaker 1>so the total bodies found in the park was eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight bodies. Police investigating spoke to many women who had

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<v Speaker 1>a similar account of you know, talking to this modeling

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<v Speaker 1>scout and wanting to take their photo.

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<v Speaker 3>So by mid July, between all the witness sketches and.

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<v Speaker 1>An anonymous tip, police began searching for Francisco dea sis Pereira,

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<v Speaker 1>who was a thirty one year old motorcycle courier, hence

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<v Speaker 1>the moto boy nickname.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why he got that nickname.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're looking for him in Brazil frantically for like

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks, and then on August fourth, nineteen ninety eight,

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<v Speaker 1>he was arrested, I guess on the border of like

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<v Speaker 1>Brazil Argentina. When they arrest him, he is wearing a

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<v Speaker 1>Boston Bruins hockey jersey.

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<v Speaker 3>It's wild.

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<v Speaker 1>After his arrest, he's almost lynched by a mob of

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred, which is seems like a peanut reference as

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<v Speaker 1>authorities transported him to a maximum security prison, they said

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<v Speaker 1>that obviously he was going to be held in solitary

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<v Speaker 1>confinement because he would have definitely been killed by other

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<v Speaker 1>prisoners if he'd been allowed in gen Pop. He had

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<v Speaker 1>also briefly gone to Argentina and passed through several police

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<v Speaker 1>checkpoints without being recognized at all, even though his picture's

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<v Speaker 1>out there, there's this man hunt for him.

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<v Speaker 3>He's going through checkpoints, no one's noticing him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like we hear this about this all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Yorkshire Ripper, Like he was brought in like

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<v Speaker 1>five times for questioning.

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<v Speaker 3>They never got they never know was him.

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<v Speaker 1>Police found also eventually linked him conclusively to the victims,

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<v Speaker 1>in that they found a partially burned ID card in

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<v Speaker 1>a clog toilet at his job, and it is the

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<v Speaker 1>ID card of Selma Ferrera Cairos, who was one of

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<v Speaker 1>his victims, and so he had tried to like flush

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of like evidence down the toilet. Perea initially

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<v Speaker 1>denied being a murderer and told them you have to

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<v Speaker 1>prove it, and then that phrase became like a headline

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<v Speaker 1>on all these papers in Brazil, like you got to

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<v Speaker 1>prove it, but then literally like the three days later,

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<v Speaker 1>after he was arrested on August seventh, he confessed to

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<v Speaker 1>killing nine women. They eight from the park, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as nineteen year old is Adora Frankel who had gone missing.

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<v Speaker 1>And don't worry, he had actually been picked up as

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<v Speaker 1>a suspect in her disappearance because he had forged checks

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<v Speaker 1>from her. And he literally went into police precincts like

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<v Speaker 1>a handful of times to talk about this girl's disappearance.

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<v Speaker 1>And he just told them, oh, yeah, like we dated,

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I had the checks, and they believed him,

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<v Speaker 1>and off he went, and he's like the one that

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<v Speaker 1>killed her. And so after he was arrested, he led

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<v Speaker 1>them to her remains. And her dad had been very

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<v Speaker 1>vocal in the press being like, help find my daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>Where like she was more a lot of the other

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<v Speaker 1>women were not from She was from more of a

1:17:37.600 --> 1:17:40.760
<v Speaker 1>middle to upper class background, so her father had more

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<v Speaker 1>connections and like was on the TV constantly being like,

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<v Speaker 1>help me find Isidora, Like this is not like her,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. And she had gone to South Pallo

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<v Speaker 1>to take a course to become a flight attendant. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's connected at all to the

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<v Speaker 1>baggage man. But like they had been looking for her

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<v Speaker 1>for months, and they had the guy was coming in

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to them all the time. So after his arrest, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he led to her remains and he had doused her

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<v Speaker 1>body in gasoline and burned it three days after he

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<v Speaker 1>had murdered her, So similar to that, I mean, but

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<v Speaker 1>not while she was alive.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as I read, it was a post.

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<v Speaker 1>Mortem burning, so that's at least like a silver lining

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<v Speaker 1>for the victim. He also told them there was a

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<v Speaker 1>tenth body of a fifteen year old girl and tried

1:18:23.520 --> 1:18:25.400
<v Speaker 1>to like lead them to it, but he couldn't find it.

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<v Speaker 1>And he testified about each killing in detail and said

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<v Speaker 1>he may have lost count of how.

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<v Speaker 3>Many women that he killed.

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<v Speaker 1>So that same magazine, Veja ran a cover story that

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<v Speaker 1>was with the with the headline it was me, and

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<v Speaker 1>they somehow had all these transcripts of his conversations with

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<v Speaker 1>his lawyer and his police and police, and everyone's like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's weird. How did this magazine get all this information?

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<v Speaker 1>So it felt like it was a leak or someone

1:18:52.160 --> 1:18:55.360
<v Speaker 1>in there was talking to the magazine. But that was

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<v Speaker 1>apparently that magazine was like sold out. This story was

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<v Speaker 1>like rocking Sapaolo, Like everyone is wanting to read about

1:19:02.600 --> 1:19:05.960
<v Speaker 1>this guy. He confessed to using shoelaces to strangle his

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<v Speaker 1>victims after sexually assaulting them. He targeted women between the

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<v Speaker 1>ages of eighteen and twenty four. He was apparently from

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<v Speaker 1>the Ted Bundy school. He was very charming. He got

1:19:16.320 --> 1:19:19.360
<v Speaker 1>girls to trust him very quickly. He complimented them on

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<v Speaker 1>their looks and how they're going to be beautiful models.

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<v Speaker 1>One day and a few victims that are in this

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<v Speaker 1>documentary that I watched, they managed to escape him and

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<v Speaker 1>like a bunch some of them were like I was

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<v Speaker 1>in the woods with him, like we got there, and

1:19:33.240 --> 1:19:36.160
<v Speaker 1>they all say that he transformed from this nice, charming

1:19:36.200 --> 1:19:38.360
<v Speaker 1>guy into a monster, like as soon as he got

1:19:38.360 --> 1:19:41.599
<v Speaker 1>into the woods, like he just like fully was juckal

1:19:41.640 --> 1:19:44.040
<v Speaker 1>and Hyde when he got into the woods. One woman

1:19:44.680 --> 1:19:49.559
<v Speaker 1>who was named Sandra Alivera, she was nineteen when he,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, did this model thing. Got her to the

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<v Speaker 1>woods and she was like he had me on the

1:19:55.120 --> 1:19:56.960
<v Speaker 1>ground and was pulling my pants down and was like

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<v Speaker 1>about to rape me, and I told him I had

1:19:59.040 --> 1:20:02.000
<v Speaker 1>HIV and that saved her because he ended up just

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<v Speaker 1>tying her to a tree naked and leaving her there,

1:20:04.760 --> 1:20:07.000
<v Speaker 1>and she went to the cops, and she went to

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<v Speaker 1>the press, but like nothing came of it. And like

1:20:12.840 --> 1:20:14.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of what they were saying too, is that

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning, when these women escaped him, they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to their local precincts and the city's so huge,

1:20:20.320 --> 1:20:22.240
<v Speaker 1>they're not all talking to each other. So maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>also where some of the like, you know, Delroy Lindo's

1:20:26.000 --> 1:20:29.040
<v Speaker 1>character versus Stabler, like they're not communicating the right way.

1:20:29.040 --> 1:20:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Otherwise they would have connected a lot earlier. That this

1:20:31.120 --> 1:20:35.320
<v Speaker 1>was like a fucking cereal And so apparently, yes, once

1:20:35.360 --> 1:20:38.760
<v Speaker 1>he lured them into the state park, he became really violent, biting, strangling,

1:20:38.880 --> 1:20:42.160
<v Speaker 1>mutilating the victims, and he told authorities that he was

1:20:42.160 --> 1:20:45.320
<v Speaker 1>about to start eating his victims if his six month

1:20:45.400 --> 1:20:47.800
<v Speaker 1>killing spree hadn't come to an end, like he was like,

1:20:47.840 --> 1:20:52.640
<v Speaker 1>my next move was to start cannibalizing. So crazy, he

1:20:52.760 --> 1:20:58.440
<v Speaker 1>told a judge Jose ruy borgas Borgos, I was possessed

1:20:58.439 --> 1:21:02.000
<v Speaker 1>by an evil force. Quote he said he had a

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<v Speaker 1>Jekyl and Hide thing going on and that the bad

1:21:04.400 --> 1:21:07.120
<v Speaker 1>side took over. He said quote, I am a person

1:21:07.160 --> 1:21:09.840
<v Speaker 1>with a good and bad personality. Sometimes I am not

1:21:09.960 --> 1:21:12.800
<v Speaker 1>able to dominate this dark side. I pray, I pray,

1:21:12.840 --> 1:21:15.040
<v Speaker 1>but I cannot resist. And then I chase after women.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish that they would not go with me into

1:21:17.280 --> 1:21:20.760
<v Speaker 1>the park, that they would run away. End quote. His

1:21:20.920 --> 1:21:23.880
<v Speaker 1>lawyers went for an insanity defense, hoping for a lighter

1:21:23.960 --> 1:21:26.640
<v Speaker 1>sentence than the thirty years in prison, which is the

1:21:26.680 --> 1:21:30.479
<v Speaker 1>maximum maximum sentence under Brazilian law, and one of his lawyers,

1:21:30.800 --> 1:21:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Maria Elisa Muonhaals, told reporters, my client is guilty, but

1:21:34.200 --> 1:21:38.040
<v Speaker 1>my client is sick. And then like some background on him.

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<v Speaker 1>As a child, he was molested by a family member,

1:21:41.479 --> 1:21:44.320
<v Speaker 1>a female family member, and then as a young man

1:21:44.400 --> 1:21:48.360
<v Speaker 1>he was apparently coerced into homosexual relationships. Again, this is

1:21:48.400 --> 1:21:50.120
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of this stuff is very hard to find.

1:21:50.160 --> 1:21:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I found some of this on the Wikipedia entry for him,

1:21:52.120 --> 1:21:54.960
<v Speaker 1>and it's like not credited, but like there is barely

1:21:55.000 --> 1:21:58.360
<v Speaker 1>anything in English about this and so and then apparently

1:21:58.600 --> 1:22:01.400
<v Speaker 1>what it says at one point a quote unquote goth

1:22:01.560 --> 1:22:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Man tried to rip Francisco's penis off, and so he

1:22:06.080 --> 1:22:09.680
<v Speaker 1>had a fear of losing his penis as well as

1:22:09.800 --> 1:22:15.040
<v Speaker 1>pain during sexual activity from that that encounter. So I

1:22:15.040 --> 1:22:17.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's what turned him into this person.

1:22:17.920 --> 1:22:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure the trauma also of the of the being

1:22:20.200 --> 1:22:24.760
<v Speaker 1>molested as a young child was contributed to that. He

1:22:24.840 --> 1:22:27.879
<v Speaker 1>had also previously been accused of rape. In the documentary

1:22:27.920 --> 1:22:30.439
<v Speaker 1>they talked about a woman that he had tried to

1:22:30.479 --> 1:22:35.080
<v Speaker 1>sexually assault and he was under suspicion for the you

1:22:35.080 --> 1:22:39.519
<v Speaker 1>know Isidora disappearance. But also a lot of the women

1:22:39.520 --> 1:22:41.719
<v Speaker 1>who escaped this guy said they reported it to the police,

1:22:41.720 --> 1:22:43.479
<v Speaker 1>and the police barely paid attention. They said, they got

1:22:43.479 --> 1:22:45.519
<v Speaker 1>a lot of well what were you wearing? What is

1:22:45.520 --> 1:22:47.280
<v Speaker 1>this what you were wearing? Is this what you look like?

1:22:47.280 --> 1:22:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Like a lot of that very old school, I hope

1:22:51.520 --> 1:22:55.680
<v Speaker 1>way of talking about victims. And then again, like I

1:22:55.680 --> 1:22:59.200
<v Speaker 1>said before, the police precincts are not integrated and as

1:22:59.280 --> 1:23:02.320
<v Speaker 1>connected as they are today, I guess, and so a

1:23:02.360 --> 1:23:04.519
<v Speaker 1>lot of the information like just did not get passed.

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<v Speaker 3>And so the sky was at it for six months.

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<v Speaker 1>On December eighteenth, Okay, so he does go to jail.

1:23:11.320 --> 1:23:15.679
<v Speaker 1>He goes to a psychiatric prison facility. On December eighteenth,

1:23:15.680 --> 1:23:18.400
<v Speaker 1>two thousand, a bunch of inmates tried to kill him

1:23:18.439 --> 1:23:20.880
<v Speaker 1>during a prison riot. Four inmates died, but he did

1:23:21.000 --> 1:23:23.880
<v Speaker 1>survive and they moved him to another psychiatric facility. He

1:23:23.960 --> 1:23:28.439
<v Speaker 1>did get the maximum sentence, but guys, the maximum sentence

1:23:28.439 --> 1:23:30.679
<v Speaker 1>in Brazil is thirty years and he's been in jail

1:23:30.720 --> 1:23:33.360
<v Speaker 1>since ninety eight, which means he's getting out in twenty

1:23:33.400 --> 1:23:33.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight.

1:23:35.040 --> 1:23:35.960
<v Speaker 3>In three years.

1:23:36.040 --> 1:23:37.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh, how is he going to be.

1:23:38.120 --> 1:23:41.080
<v Speaker 1>He'll be sixty one. It's not even that old. No,

1:23:41.439 --> 1:23:42.839
<v Speaker 1>he can still commit crimes.

1:23:42.880 --> 1:23:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I gotta keep him in or I gotta do something supervised,

1:23:47.200 --> 1:23:50.360
<v Speaker 2>probate as some I can't even believe this guy's getting out.

1:23:50.479 --> 1:23:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I know, I don't know what, Like, that's just their deal,

1:23:53.120 --> 1:23:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Like thirty years is what you do, so like, and

1:23:55.200 --> 1:23:56.840
<v Speaker 1>he was thirty one when he committed the crime, so

1:23:56.880 --> 1:24:02.200
<v Speaker 1>he'll be yeah, early sixties, so yiker. Anyway, if you

1:24:02.240 --> 1:24:04.640
<v Speaker 1>want to see something truly bizarre, please go watch this

1:24:04.760 --> 1:24:08.679
<v Speaker 1>Amazon doc and listen to all these people's voices, because

1:24:08.680 --> 1:24:11.840
<v Speaker 1>you're like, you're watching the people speak and you're like,

1:24:11.880 --> 1:24:14.000
<v Speaker 1>this looks like a normal person that's probably giving a

1:24:14.080 --> 1:24:16.800
<v Speaker 1>very thoughtful account of what happened, and then the voiceover

1:24:16.960 --> 1:24:19.919
<v Speaker 1>does not match it. At all, like it's all very crazy,

1:24:20.760 --> 1:24:25.679
<v Speaker 1>but seems like it's one of the wildest crime cereals

1:24:25.720 --> 1:24:30.800
<v Speaker 1>that Brazil has seen. So definitely a huge case there.

1:24:30.840 --> 1:24:33.320
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know why we have not been more.

1:24:33.800 --> 1:24:36.879
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we do focus on crimes in other countries,

1:24:36.920 --> 1:24:39.200
<v Speaker 1>but maybe because so much of the reporting was not

1:24:39.240 --> 1:24:42.160
<v Speaker 1>in English. I think we're very obsessed with like British

1:24:42.320 --> 1:24:46.360
<v Speaker 1>killers as well in other English speaking countries, but Canada,

1:24:46.439 --> 1:24:48.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of Canada, but we don't get as much

1:24:48.680 --> 1:24:51.640
<v Speaker 1>of the Brazil coverage anyway. That is the story of

1:24:51.680 --> 1:24:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Francisco deaces Perira. No butt glue but a pretty horrific killer.

1:24:56.400 --> 1:24:58.320
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe he's gonna get out.

1:24:58.880 --> 1:24:59.160
<v Speaker 1>I know.

1:24:59.520 --> 1:25:02.759
<v Speaker 2>Nuts. Well, I guess we'll tell you what we've learned,

1:25:02.800 --> 1:25:07.879
<v Speaker 2>which is no one will ever return my suitcase. However,

1:25:10.000 --> 1:25:12.200
<v Speaker 2>I'll come to the airport. Thinks, yeah, you could just

1:25:12.240 --> 1:25:14.720
<v Speaker 2>hold it, think you yes? And also never go with

1:25:14.720 --> 1:25:18.919
<v Speaker 2>a modeling scout to a second location. Oh my god.

1:25:18.960 --> 1:25:20.160
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, we'll get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do a post mortem. So no guests today, so

1:25:28.240 --> 1:25:30.479
<v Speaker 1>we can just dive right into our post mortem. But

1:25:30.479 --> 1:25:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I did want to point out we did not mention

1:25:32.320 --> 1:25:35.639
<v Speaker 1>in this episode that Marishka's not in it, and according

1:25:35.640 --> 1:25:38.879
<v Speaker 1>to the factoids, it's because she got a lung injury

1:25:39.000 --> 1:25:44.800
<v Speaker 1>doing Wildlife, which was the episode before. So you know,

1:25:45.000 --> 1:25:47.439
<v Speaker 1>our queen was down and out, uh, and that's why

1:25:47.479 --> 1:25:49.160
<v Speaker 1>she's not in this episode. That's why they brought into

1:25:49.160 --> 1:25:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's why they brought into No, they obviously

1:25:51.240 --> 1:25:53.760
<v Speaker 1>knew Delroy Lindo was coming in or they didn't bring

1:25:53.840 --> 1:25:54.679
<v Speaker 1>him in like a pinch hitter.

1:25:54.760 --> 1:25:58.120
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, but like I'm trying to think of that

1:25:58.200 --> 1:26:00.519
<v Speaker 2>episode and what could have happened to her line? You know,

1:26:01.200 --> 1:26:02.920
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like one of those have you seen

1:26:02.920 --> 1:26:05.519
<v Speaker 2>the trend where they'll show an artist, like a like

1:26:05.560 --> 1:26:07.920
<v Speaker 2>a musician, like dancing crazy and they're like, there is

1:26:08.040 --> 1:26:10.640
<v Speaker 2>no song, but this person has to be moving like that.

1:26:12.360 --> 1:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's how I feel with this. It's like, Mushka,

1:26:14.160 --> 1:26:17.320
<v Speaker 1>what did you what happened? I know, I'm like, when

1:26:17.360 --> 1:26:19.800
<v Speaker 1>you that's always the episode for me? Are you ready

1:26:19.800 --> 1:26:20.080
<v Speaker 1>for me?

1:26:20.160 --> 1:26:20.559
<v Speaker 2>Daddy?

1:26:20.640 --> 1:26:21.960
<v Speaker 3>That's always that episode?

1:26:22.040 --> 1:26:25.960
<v Speaker 1>So I don't think that any of that, Uh, snuggling

1:26:26.000 --> 1:26:28.320
<v Speaker 1>with Maloney topless gave her a lung injury?

1:26:28.680 --> 1:26:30.360
<v Speaker 3>Did she wrestle to get a gibbet.

1:26:30.360 --> 1:26:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh there's a whole scene where they're running after the

1:26:33.320 --> 1:26:36.559
<v Speaker 1>different animal guys and like sacking them, aren't they Maybe

1:26:36.560 --> 1:26:40.559
<v Speaker 1>it was that because they're like, yeah, like all the

1:26:40.600 --> 1:26:43.680
<v Speaker 1>guys that are you know, trading tigers and gibbons and

1:26:43.720 --> 1:26:48.120
<v Speaker 1>all that. Anyway, that's wildlife. This is baggage. What a

1:26:48.160 --> 1:26:50.200
<v Speaker 1>fucking terrifying episode.

1:26:50.640 --> 1:26:53.080
<v Speaker 2>This is one of the worst of their I would

1:26:53.120 --> 1:26:56.120
<v Speaker 2>put this on top with charisma, like, but for me,

1:26:57.840 --> 1:27:01.000
<v Speaker 2>these are always worse because I can see myself, like

1:27:01.479 --> 1:27:04.280
<v Speaker 2>I know that I'm not gonna be in a religious

1:27:04.640 --> 1:27:10.160
<v Speaker 2>child's pregnation incest cult, like I'm past my prime, Like

1:27:10.479 --> 1:27:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't think that's gonna happen for me.

1:27:12.240 --> 1:27:13.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you aged out on a child cult.

1:27:13.880 --> 1:27:20.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry to say, yeah, but but this is like

1:27:21.200 --> 1:27:24.639
<v Speaker 1>these are my number one fears being tortured by a man,

1:27:25.040 --> 1:27:26.720
<v Speaker 1>and no worry out like that.

1:27:27.080 --> 1:27:34.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, really yeah, it's it's it's really awful.

1:27:34.080 --> 1:27:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like there are some episodes that are truly

1:27:36.280 --> 1:27:38.439
<v Speaker 1>this isn't haunt, This isn't the Haunting Hall of Fame,

1:27:38.520 --> 1:27:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Like this is.

1:27:39.040 --> 1:27:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Awful, Like and they zoom in. They want you haunted.

1:27:42.120 --> 1:27:43.840
<v Speaker 2>They want to haunt it. They zoom in on her

1:27:43.880 --> 1:27:47.240
<v Speaker 2>open eyelids, they zoom in on the bruises, the and

1:27:47.360 --> 1:27:50.720
<v Speaker 2>just the tying. I'm kind of like we should check

1:27:50.760 --> 1:27:52.599
<v Speaker 2>the motive of them who wrote this, Like no one

1:27:52.640 --> 1:27:54.920
<v Speaker 2>needed to be tied that that accurate.

1:27:55.200 --> 1:27:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Glued buttholes like the hog time we've seen before. The

1:27:59.520 --> 1:28:04.200
<v Speaker 1>glued oles were like a new level. But listen, they

1:28:04.240 --> 1:28:08.519
<v Speaker 1>also very much skimped over. Like why the guy like

1:28:08.840 --> 1:28:11.240
<v Speaker 1>he we get he's like a psycho, he's always been

1:28:11.320 --> 1:28:13.360
<v Speaker 1>like that, his mom doesn't like him or whatever, but like,

1:28:13.520 --> 1:28:14.160
<v Speaker 1>was he abused?

1:28:14.240 --> 1:28:15.719
<v Speaker 3>Like what makes him?

1:28:16.680 --> 1:28:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Also he's obsessed with them being natural, Like he doesn't

1:28:20.760 --> 1:28:23.160
<v Speaker 1>even attack the he doesn't even sexually assault the ones

1:28:23.160 --> 1:28:26.759
<v Speaker 1>that are have dyed hair or fake boobs or anything.

1:28:27.520 --> 1:28:29.400
<v Speaker 1>What's that company? He never says any of that in

1:28:29.439 --> 1:28:32.240
<v Speaker 1>his like tit for tat with the cops.

1:28:32.280 --> 1:28:32.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

1:28:32.800 --> 1:28:35.120
<v Speaker 1>It felt like there were some unanswered questions about this

1:28:35.160 --> 1:28:36.320
<v Speaker 1>fucking guy's pathology.

1:28:36.439 --> 1:28:39.960
<v Speaker 2>But well, yeah, because they work together, we would have

1:28:39.960 --> 1:28:43.040
<v Speaker 2>gotten more pathology if Maloney didn't go, ah, yeah, you're

1:28:43.080 --> 1:28:44.640
<v Speaker 2>not the only guy who's been to Quantico.

1:28:44.800 --> 1:28:50.559
<v Speaker 3>It's like, okay, cool and story bro.

1:28:52.720 --> 1:28:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean The lesson is also like, why would you

1:28:55.479 --> 1:28:59.040
<v Speaker 1>ever let a baggage delivery person come into your house

1:28:59.040 --> 1:29:00.680
<v Speaker 1>and turn your back on that and let them go

1:29:00.760 --> 1:29:02.439
<v Speaker 1>into your bedroom with a bag? No?

1:29:03.200 --> 1:29:04.479
<v Speaker 3>Uh, I think you need to.

1:29:05.400 --> 1:29:10.439
<v Speaker 2>No, but even like downstairs, like like but SV is

1:29:10.520 --> 1:29:13.479
<v Speaker 2>eventually going to ruin my life fully, but like actually,

1:29:13.479 --> 1:29:15.519
<v Speaker 2>but I did love how this worked out. So I'm walking,

1:29:16.320 --> 1:29:18.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing other things. I get a call and it's

1:29:19.120 --> 1:29:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Amazon and the dude's just like yo, no, one's answering, like,

1:29:23.040 --> 1:29:25.439
<v Speaker 2>I have your package. I go fuck. I'm like I

1:29:25.439 --> 1:29:27.760
<v Speaker 2>could be there in fifteen minutes. He goes, all right,

1:29:27.800 --> 1:29:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I'll be on the block, like you'll you can get

1:29:29.760 --> 1:29:33.240
<v Speaker 2>your package. So then I get it and he goes,

1:29:33.280 --> 1:29:35.280
<v Speaker 2>I have another. He goes, which one's yours? I tell

1:29:35.360 --> 1:29:37.240
<v Speaker 2>him my full address. Now he's looking at me and

1:29:37.320 --> 1:29:41.160
<v Speaker 2>he knows my apartment. He knows yeah yeah, And immediately

1:29:41.200 --> 1:29:43.280
<v Speaker 2>I go, uh oh baggage, like I did? I go

1:29:44.400 --> 1:29:46.400
<v Speaker 2>because then he goes, wait, I have another package for

1:29:46.439 --> 1:29:49.640
<v Speaker 2>your building. Will you take it for me? And I

1:29:49.680 --> 1:29:52.240
<v Speaker 2>go yeah. So then like I he scans stuff. I go,

1:29:52.280 --> 1:29:54.839
<v Speaker 2>thank you so much for call. What was the package

1:29:54.920 --> 1:29:59.960
<v Speaker 2>that I couldn't wait? For beads. You're gonna get murder

1:30:00.200 --> 1:30:04.920
<v Speaker 2>for bees. It's like I gotta make well because I'm yeah,

1:30:05.000 --> 1:30:07.840
<v Speaker 2>so beides. I'm surprised they called you.

1:30:07.920 --> 1:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>When did they call? They never call me. I mean

1:30:10.400 --> 1:30:12.599
<v Speaker 1>I have a porch. They just like leave it there.

1:30:12.640 --> 1:30:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess, yeah, no one.

1:30:13.960 --> 1:30:15.800
<v Speaker 2>But the thing is, I you know, I'm kind of

1:30:15.880 --> 1:30:18.599
<v Speaker 2>like my building is resident buzzer in like I am home.

1:30:18.680 --> 1:30:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Like when I'm home, they know I'll buzzem in, so

1:30:21.320 --> 1:30:25.080
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, because I usually I do have something whether

1:30:25.120 --> 1:30:27.640
<v Speaker 2>it's like I don't know right now, I don't know,

1:30:27.840 --> 1:30:30.680
<v Speaker 2>like for I'm just home and they usually buzz for me.

1:30:30.720 --> 1:30:33.000
<v Speaker 2>I get everyone's packages into this building. I don't think

1:30:33.000 --> 1:30:37.560
<v Speaker 2>they know how much? What is it? Uh an? What

1:30:37.680 --> 1:30:39.320
<v Speaker 2>does what do they say about stay at home moms?

1:30:39.880 --> 1:30:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Unpaid labor, yes, unpaid labor yep, the mental load. I

1:30:45.800 --> 1:30:48.560
<v Speaker 2>am buzzing this building in. No. I think it's like

1:30:48.600 --> 1:30:50.439
<v Speaker 2>annoying for them to have to redo it. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm sure they get punished like they're working

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<v Speaker 2>for an evil lord. Like so I'm sure like if

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<v Speaker 2>they have to go back or it goes back to

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<v Speaker 2>the warehouse, like it's just like a nightmare for them,

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<v Speaker 2>so they would rather be like where Yeah that makes sense,

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<v Speaker 2>And I happened to be close to enough and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>happy to I hope I help end their day early,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't know, yeah, but be but yeah, just

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<v Speaker 2>be careful everybody like but yeah, so like him like now, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he was like a young man. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think he's gonna like come in here. But immediately I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like standing with my package as he takes a photo

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<v Speaker 2>to send to Amazon with my full address as like

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<v Speaker 2>a confirmation of delivery. I'm like, ah, like it's so crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>got it? Call me? You know my name, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>My number, you know my address.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also not signing my Luigi letters with my full name,

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<v Speaker 2>just my initials. But it's like the prison has my

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<v Speaker 2>full address, like if they want, you know what I mean, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh. All right, well but yeah, wild one,

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<v Speaker 2>a wild one. Hope you guys can sleep okay. After

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<v Speaker 2>watching Baggage, I mean, now I understand the people that

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<v Speaker 2>just listen to us talk about it and not Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this one was I mean, this was another one where

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<v Speaker 2>the real crime is fucked up too. I mean, how

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<v Speaker 2>many people did he fucking torture and kill, Like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>This one actually made me google why do some people

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<v Speaker 1>die with their eyes open? Because like the women in

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<v Speaker 1>this were like and what is it? It was literally

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<v Speaker 1>like sometimes the muscles relax or something like that, like

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<v Speaker 1>after you die, after you go into like a certain

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like rigor or whatever. But yeah, like, how

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<v Speaker 1>come sometimes people are dead like this and sometimes their

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<v Speaker 1>eyes are wide open?

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<v Speaker 3>Like it was?

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<v Speaker 1>It was not clear to me, but I think I

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<v Speaker 1>was just sort of scamming an AI response.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to look more deeply into it, but.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how much I was, Like, Wow, Svu, you really

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<v Speaker 1>zoomed in on those glassy dead eyes, Like sure you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to give us at a little glance at

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<v Speaker 1>the buttthole too, Like why didn't you just show us that?

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<v Speaker 2>Like will you imagine this show not on network television?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it would be like watching the movie or something

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<v Speaker 1>like every week, like it would be oh boy.

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<v Speaker 3>But let's uh, we can. We can move on to

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<v Speaker 3>our what would Sister Peg do?

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<v Speaker 1>That's our weekly segment where we direct you guys towards

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<v Speaker 1>usually an article, a book, a documentary, an organization, something

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<v Speaker 1>that ends more involved with what we talked about in

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<v Speaker 1>today's episode, but I thought it would be appropriate this

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<v Speaker 1>week to point you towards a directory of displaced Black

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<v Speaker 1>families from the fires. It's a directory of their gofundmes.

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<v Speaker 1>There are obviously countless families who are in need of

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<v Speaker 1>help and aftermouth of the fires, but it's been pointed

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<v Speaker 1>out that a lot of gofundmes for people of color

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<v Speaker 1>are slower to gain traction to meet their goals. So

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<v Speaker 1>I would love if you guys are feeling like the

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<v Speaker 1>urge to help people out in California, if you could

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<v Speaker 1>take a look at this list. A lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>are listed by how complete they are, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>just go and check and you can help some of

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<v Speaker 1>these Because just to be clear, Alta Dina, where one

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<v Speaker 1>of the fires is, is the closest to me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know many people who live there, and it's also

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<v Speaker 1>a historically black community, and so a lot of people

1:34:05.160 --> 1:34:07.879
<v Speaker 1>that have lived there for decades have lost their homes,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I would love for you guys to check

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<v Speaker 1>out the link to donate, and those are going to

1:34:13.280 --> 1:34:15.680
<v Speaker 1>be obviously in our show notes. We'll post those on

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<v Speaker 1>our Instagram and then the Instagram story will live Forever

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<v Speaker 1>in our WWSPD highlights on our Instagram page. We also

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt you have heard of the firefighters who have

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<v Speaker 1>been like absolute fucking godlike heroes in this whole situation,

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<v Speaker 1>and many of them are incarcerated men who are fighting

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<v Speaker 1>against these fires for the rumor is five dollars a day.

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<v Speaker 1>We wanted to point people to the Anti Recidivism Coalition,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically the ARC Firefighter Fund. There are nearly a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>incarcerated firefighters currently fighting these fires in La so this

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<v Speaker 1>is part of a voluntary program they do with the

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<v Speaker 1>California Department of Corrections. These men and women earn between

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars and eighty cents to ten dollars twenty first

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<v Speaker 1>cents day working in twenty four hour shifts to save

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<v Speaker 1>lives like they could be making at max ten bucks

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<v Speaker 1>a day. Every dollar donated to the Firefighter Fund goes

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<v Speaker 1>towards immediate needs like food and hygiene supplies, fire camp upgrades,

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<v Speaker 1>and scholarship funds for when they are released. So you

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<v Speaker 1>can also please feel free to donate to Anti Recidivism

1:35:20.120 --> 1:35:23.960
<v Speaker 1>dot org slash Firefighter Fund and that will also be

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<v Speaker 1>in our stories in our show notes.

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<v Speaker 3>For your for your viewing. Ease, what am I talking about? Lisa?

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<v Speaker 3>Pick pick it up?

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing to pick up. You know, as you talk

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<v Speaker 2>you just think about Like I look up top, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>we gotta be hopeful. But in the end, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>the darkness is so deep.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's been a it's just a wild five ye

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<v Speaker 1>just but like yeah, the like the prison system is

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<v Speaker 1>a business.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's just like what the fuck? Like it is

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, such a deep darkness but a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of hopefulness. Yeah. If you can help someone, please this week.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's time to do it. Next week,

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<v Speaker 2>please join us, we'll be doing Thought Criminal Season fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>episode twenty three. And as always, we're so lucky to

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<v Speaker 2>have such incredible listeners. And if you've listened all the

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<v Speaker 2>way to the end, you're sick, get a life.

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<v Speaker 1>No, thank you, Thank you so much for you guys

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<v Speaker 1>for listening. We love you.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see you next week. Bye.

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