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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Uh, Buck

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Speaker 1: walked back into a Hornet's test Here. I'm gonna dive

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Speaker 1: into a topic here in addition to the fun of

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Speaker 1: Billie Eilish being on Stolen Land and the seriousness of

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Speaker 1: the two million dollar verdict by a New York jury

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Speaker 1: for a young miner who got gender transition surgery that's

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Speaker 1: in quotation marks it's not real.

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Speaker 2: But we will discuss that. Buck.

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Speaker 1: I did want to put a bow on this. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, eight hundred and two two eight a two.

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Speaker 1: In the wake of the three million plus pages of

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Speaker 1: Epstein revelations, it feels to me like the Epstein story

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Speaker 1: is basically over and uh even for the five or

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Speaker 1: ten percent of the audience out there that is the

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Speaker 1: most focused on this epist's story. And I think the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration, as we have said many times, did not

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Speaker 1: handle this well in the first year. But there is

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Speaker 1: a bit of breaking news out there. Bill and Hillary

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Speaker 1: Clinton are going to testify in front of Congress to

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Speaker 1: avoid potential charges for defying a congressional subpoena on two

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Speaker 1: different days. At the end of February, I jotted down

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Speaker 1: the twenty sixth and the twenty seventh. It might have

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Speaker 1: been the twenty seventh and the twenty eighth, but two

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Speaker 1: days at the end of February. And I'm curious if

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Speaker 1: you co sign on to this, and certainly you guys

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Speaker 1: can react as I did a ton of reading yesterday

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Speaker 1: the sun about the Epstein revelations and make sure that

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Speaker 1: I wasn't missing anything. Effectively, it appears to me, based

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Speaker 1: on all of these emails, that Jeffrey Epstein had access

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Speaker 1: because of the work that he did with Jelainne Maxwell,

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Speaker 1: to lot of young attractive women, and lots of old

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Speaker 1: rich guys were interested in meeting young attractive women, and

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Speaker 1: Epstein used that as the lever to get access to

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Speaker 1: all of these older rich men who otherwise didn't have

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Speaker 1: access to young attractive women, and that was the way

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Speaker 1: in which he ingratiated himself into all of these circles.

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Speaker 2: I did think it was interesting.

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Speaker 1: I'm out in LA there's almost buck no one who

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Speaker 1: is famous, right, No musician, no actor, no famous people

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Speaker 1: is because famous people have easy access to attractive women,

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Speaker 1: and really the game plan of Jeffrey Epstein was I'm

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Speaker 1: going to use all these young attractive women to get

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Speaker 1: the name of the game, and he leveraged that to

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Speaker 1: be able to make lots of money. Now, whether there

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Speaker 1: were intelligence agencies in any way involved blackmail, The New

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Speaker 1: York Times actually had a great writeup of how Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: Epstein made a lot of his money. Much of it

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Speaker 1: comes through Lex Wexner, who was the founder of Victoria's Secret.

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Speaker 1: But I actually think this story is becoming less and

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Speaker 1: less complicated the more emails come out. This was a

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Speaker 1: guy who was a pervert and had access to lots

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Speaker 1: of young women, and there were a lot of men

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Speaker 1: to those young women, and Jeffrey Epstein exploited that for

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Speaker 1: those purposes. You do you co sign to most of that?

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Speaker 1: Is there anything else that has leapt out to you

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Speaker 2: It's a tough week for Peter Atia.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that that definitely he I did not and I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you this, I don't think his name had ever

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Speaker 3: So he was one of these people who all of

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Speaker 3: of criminal wrongdoing in any of this stuff, and that's

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Speaker 3: obviously why there And he has been very doctor Atia,

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Speaker 3: has been very vociferous in that he knew nothing about

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Speaker 3: Epstein trafficking underage girls and that he you know, had

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Speaker 3: no I mean, of course, this is what he's saying.

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Speaker 2: This is what you would expect him to say.

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Speaker 3: And I will just say though, the brand damage that

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Speaker 3: some people are suffering as a result of this is

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Speaker 3: sort of wonder why was there the hesitation to release

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Speaker 3: a lot of this stuff. Well, the FBI, in the

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Speaker 3: that there are people that are more damaged by reputationally

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Speaker 3: And I can understand that. I can understand that mindset,

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know what else you or I could

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Speaker 3: do in terms of advocating for more transparency or anything else.

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Speaker 3: And I will say this wasn't smoking gun.

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Speaker 2: What we said along is true.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing in these emails that, on a standalone basis

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Speaker 3: brought those charges, right. This is why it was somewhat established.

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Speaker 3: I think in advance that there might be people that

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Speaker 3: else we'd have to throw most of Congress in prison,

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Speaker 3: and that's where we are. So I think Clay, maybe

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Speaker 3: this brings a.

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Speaker 2: New phase, at least into discussion. People will analyze this.

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Speaker 3: They'll believe that there are a lot of connections that

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Speaker 3: have been covered up, and I don't disagree with that,

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Speaker 3: don't think there is. I think it's over. And look,

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Speaker 3: I'm open.

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Speaker 1: You guys can give us talkbacks, you can call in,

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Speaker 1: like I did what I consider to be a pretty

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Speaker 1: hang out with Jeffrey Epstein because he would, you know,

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Speaker 1: you'd go to a dinner and there were a bunch

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Speaker 3: Well, when you're saying you know this, this is where

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Speaker 3: I do think some we have to be clear when

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Speaker 3: because that's girls you're really talking about. I think a

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Speaker 3: can we prove it. It's another thing to say there's

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Speaker 5: Nothing wrong and knew nothing about it. And you know

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Speaker 5: that that is a reality too.

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Speaker 2: When I'm saying older of age girls, right, this is

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Speaker 2: a lot of guys. This is this is the key,

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Speaker 2: the key to French storry. I diverted there.

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Speaker 3: But yes, you're you're saying what I wanted to say,

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Speaker 3: which is that it's one thing for a guy, you know,

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Speaker 3: who is a powerful, rich guy to say Epstein, he's

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Speaker 3: got the rolodex with all the over eighteen victorious Secret

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Speaker 1: Want to meet that twenty four year old smoke, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm sixty years old and otherwise there's no way that

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Speaker 1: I'm going to meet him. I'm saying, that's what a

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Speaker 1: lot of these emails will look like to me.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's and that's now you can say, you know,

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Speaker 1: You can you can judge that as much as you can,

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Speaker 3: It's one hundred percent legal and always will be and

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Speaker 3: always should be. I might add, there's nothing criminal about that.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's why to me, when I saw these emails,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting Epstein didn't really have celebrity friends, right, And

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Speaker 1: There weren't a lot of musicians, they weren't actors and

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Speaker 1: guys tended to be older. And again, to me, it

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Speaker 1: feels like he would have a party and you would

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Speaker 2: That's what all of it read like. To me. Well,

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Speaker 3: you don't need of pretty girls and of age victorious

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Speaker 3: we're talking about women in their twenties. Let's just make

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Speaker 3: it that women in their twenties. Epstein had access to

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Speaker 3: women in their twenties, Les Wesner, the Victoria's Secret brand,

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Speaker 3: and others. But normally, you know, guys who are thirties, forties,

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Speaker 1: Don't need, you know, Johnny Depp doesn't need Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 1: to meet girls. But you're sixty, if you're if you're

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Speaker 1: a sixty year old kind of you know, if you're

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Speaker 1: a lot Reid Hoffman, you know.

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Speaker 2: And I'm just saying this guy probably needed you know,

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Speaker 3: He's not a guy that you would think would have

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Speaker 3: an easy time with the ladies, is all I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Who is in the who is in the emails was

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Speaker 1: having trouble meeting women of age, and they used Epstein,

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Speaker 3: Let's get some calls. Bob and Idaho wants to talk.

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Speaker 4: Bob retired law enforcement officer, escape from California. And So

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Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that we gave you the latest

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Speaker 1: on that, and we will be running on that press

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Speaker 1: conference for the sheriff's updates on Nancy Guthrie.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry. She does not have dementia. She has

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Speaker 3: physical limitations. Pardon me. I've read somewhere that she had

440
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Speaker 3: some disability, but she has physical limitations in her movement,

441
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Speaker 3: so she can't go very far, but her mind is

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Speaker 3: all totally there.

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Speaker 1: Last scene January thirty. First, if you are listening to

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Speaker 1: us in Arizona, certainly keep your ice peeled there as

445
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Speaker 1: that is where she has disappeared. And again we will

446
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Speaker 1: update you on what the latest is here shortly, much

447
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Speaker 1: less serious. I'm out in Los Angeles, Buck, So I

448
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Speaker 1: thought that this is very funny, and I thought we

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Speaker 1: could have some fun with this. The Grammy Awards were

450
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Speaker 1: insanely woke, as one might imagine, and we talked about

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Speaker 1: that quite a lot yesterday. And maybe the wokest part

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Speaker 1: of the entire Grammy Awards was when Billie Eilish, singer

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Speaker 1: got up and said, no one is illegal on stolen land.

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Speaker 1: Here is that cut, I believe cut thirty one from

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Speaker 1: Sunday night at the Grammys.

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Speaker 4: I love you so much.

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Speaker 2: I feel so honored every time I get to be

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Speaker 2: in this room, and as grateful as I feel, I

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Speaker 2: honestly don't feel like I need to say anything but

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Speaker 2: that no one is illegal on stolen land, all right, buck.

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Speaker 1: I had some fun with this yesterday on the show,

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Speaker 1: and I pointed out, Hey, if your land is stolen,

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Speaker 1: the nicest thing you could do is actually give it back.

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Speaker 1: And Billy Eilish lives in a multimillion dollar Los Angeles mansion.

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Speaker 1: She had just one song of the year, so this

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Speaker 1: is very funny. The Tongva tribe not familiar with their work.

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Speaker 1: The Tongva tribe says in the they used to have

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Speaker 1: the La area a great place to be living. If

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Speaker 1: you were a tribe by the way, I would imagine

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Speaker 1: you know nice land in La.

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Speaker 2: They say.

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Speaker 1: Billy Eilish is living in a mansion built on their

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Speaker 1: ancestral land.

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Speaker 2: As the first people of the Greater This is the.

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Speaker 1: Tongva tribe in a statement of Fox News, as the

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Speaker 1: first people of the greater Los Angeles basin, we do

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Speaker 1: understand that her home is situated in our ancestral land.

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Speaker 1: Eilish has not contacted our tribe directly regarding our property.

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Speaker 1: They are asking, this is really funny. Good for them.

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Speaker 1: They're asking Billie Eilish to turn title to her mansion

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Speaker 1: back over to the Tongva tribe because she is living

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Speaker 1: on their stolen land.

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Speaker 2: Fuck.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that Billy Eilish, who one Song of

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Speaker 1: the Year was so fast to say no one is

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Speaker 1: illegal when we're living on stolen land? Why is Billy

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Speaker 1: Eilish not willing to turn back over her multimillion dollar mansion?

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Speaker 1: I will say too, there are lots of footage, lots

489
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Speaker 1: of drones of this, this property of hers. Now she

490
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Speaker 1: stepped really in it. To my knowledge, he has not

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Speaker 1: commented since they have demanded their land back.

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Speaker 2: We'll have to just wait and see.

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Speaker 3: I have a feeling she's gonna hang on to that

494
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Speaker 3: mansion and not think twice about it.

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Speaker 2: Clay, one thing that I.

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Speaker 3: Was thinking about with the Grammys was that I think

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Speaker 3: the state of get ready for it. You're ready to

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Speaker 3: get off my lawn, everybody, you're ready to get off

499
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Speaker 3: my lawn. I think the state speaking of stolen land,

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Speaker 3: the state of music today in this country in general.

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Speaker 3: Don't tell me, oh I love this band, or oh

502
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Speaker 3: but what about this country mus I don't know anything

503
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Speaker 3: about country music. I know I know more about college

504
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Speaker 3: SEC football coaches than I do about country music, So

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Speaker 3: don't don't come at me with the country music plays, like, yeah,

506
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Speaker 3: it's actually true. Who is the guy that you're like,

507
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Speaker 3: you don't know who that is? I forget oh yeah,

508
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Speaker 3: because like Morgan Wallen, I'm like, is that a rum?

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Speaker 3: Not knowing Pat Summer and Morgan Walland is a very

510
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: different universes. But yeah, Morgan Wallen is one of the

511
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 3: only artists in the world, frankly that could sell out

512
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Speaker 3: stadiums all around the country, and now I celebrate his

513
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 3: whole catalog, including the throwing the chair off the roof apparently. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: I think the state of music today in America is

515
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 3: absolutely abysmal, absolutely abysmal. I think that the stuff that

516
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Speaker 3: people at first of all, everything is auto tuned, everything is.

517
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Speaker 2: Overproduced.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing that's I think music has got people complain

519
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Speaker 3: about and hat tip. Ben Dominic has said something like

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Speaker 3: this on X and I liked it. I think he's

521
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Speaker 3: totally right. But I've been thinking this for It's why

522
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Speaker 3: I like this sweet. I've been thinking this for a

523
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Speaker 3: long time now. Movies have gotten bad. I think you

524
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Speaker 3: might be able to argue that like pop music is

525
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Speaker 3: even worse than like the descent of pop music is

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Speaker 3: even worse than the descent of movies over the last time.

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Speaker 1: What do you attribute that to? Because I think it's

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Speaker 1: certainly true. Is it so movies? I think it's that

529
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Speaker 1: everybody got afraid of being targeted on social media. So

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Speaker 1: I think the same thing is true for novels. All

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, if you make a joke that the

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Speaker 1: wrong person is offended by, or you try to write

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Speaker 1: a book if you're a white person that's from the

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Speaker 1: perspective of someone other than a white person, it's oh,

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Speaker 1: cultural appropriation. Is it just a culture of fear in

536
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Speaker 1: taking risk and everybody so afraid of being targeted in

537
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Speaker 1: a social media era that no, I mean, great art

538
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Speaker 1: requires risk would be my big picture argument.

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Speaker 3: I think the I think the economics of it have

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Speaker 3: have changed a lot.

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Speaker 2: I think that.

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Speaker 3: I think that it's far for most people, it's far

543
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: less lucrative and far less of a dream to be

544
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Speaker 3: and even just a successful band today than it was before.

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Speaker 3: I just I just think think about this in the

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Speaker 3: nineties when you want maybe and maybe this is a

547
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Speaker 3: gen X millennial thing more than anything else. But the

548
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 3: whole notion of the garage band that you want to

549
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 3: get together your buddies and you're gonna have you're gonna

550
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Speaker 3: get together, you're gonna play rock and roll, and maybe

551
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 3: you'll play at like the school dance and then maybe

552
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: you'll play at a local venue and then somebody will

553
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: sign you to some big record label, and all this

554
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 3: stuff this is this is all gone. This doesn't really

555
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Speaker 3: exist the same way. You don't have the same aspiration.

556
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Speaker 3: I don't think people think of rock stars with anywhere

557
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Speaker 3: near they say, first of all, if you look at

558
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Speaker 3: the biggest touring acts in the world today, for the

559
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Speaker 3: most part, with the exception of like a Taylor Swift

560
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Speaker 3: and I can't speak to again, I know nothing about

561
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Speaker 3: the contemporary hip hop scene. I know nothing about it,

562
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Speaker 3: so just put that aside too. I don't know about

563
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Speaker 3: country music. I don't know hip hop. But Clay, you

564
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Speaker 3: look at the bands that are touring. There are parents bands.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of them are.

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Speaker 3: It's it's Bruce Springsteen, the most overrated music act of

567
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: all time. It's the beat not the Beatles. Sorry, Rolling Stones,

568
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 3: rolling Stones, That's what I meant, the Rolling Stones, the

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Speaker 3: other ones. These bands are still touring. I mean they're

570
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: rolling these guys out there with oxygen tanks attached to them.

571
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 3: It's crazy. And these are the bands that are still like,

572
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 3: you know, doing sellout and everything else. So I think

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Speaker 3: that it's very obvious the music industry isn't what it

574
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Speaker 3: used to be. And I'll just say this, you know,

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Speaker 3: I look forward to introducing my son when he gets

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Speaker 3: old enough to I don't care who you are if

577
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Speaker 3: you have any appreciation for music and you hear like

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00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 3: a great ac DC riff or you know, even some

579
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Speaker 3: of the music we play on the show, as as

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Speaker 3: our rejoin music like that Tears for Fear song which

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Speaker 3: I love, which was my number two behind our theme

582
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Speaker 3: song to be the theme song on this show, Rule

583
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Speaker 3: the World. Those are in fifty years, people be like

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Speaker 3: that's a great song. There's there's the music that's being

585
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Speaker 3: made over the last ten to fifteen years. No one's

586
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Speaker 3: gonna be like that's a great song. They're gonna be like,

587
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Speaker 3: what is that? Did someone make that with a synthesizer

588
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Speaker 3: in the room by themselves. It's bizarre, I would argue,

589
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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna get people fired up.

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Speaker 1: Now. The nineties was the last time when there was

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Speaker 1: great original music being produced across the different bandwidth of

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Speaker 1: of audio, right, so you had I would argue the

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Speaker 1: peak of rock, meaning diversity of rock, was incredible in

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Speaker 1: the nineties. Rap, I would argue, actually, by far peaked

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Speaker 1: in the late nineties. If you go look at all

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Speaker 1: the different rap artists, you could actually understand what a

597
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Speaker 1: rap artist did back then. My sons listen to rap.

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Speaker 1: Now it's all this mumble core stuff. You can't hear

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Speaker 1: anything the guys are saying. I mean, if you go

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Speaker 1: back and look at R and B, which I think

601
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Speaker 1: is mostly overrated, but all of it peaked in the

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Speaker 1: late nineties.

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Speaker 2: In terms of the diversity of music.

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Speaker 1: You go back and look at all of the different

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Speaker 1: bands that put out great music, and since then it's collapsed.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, it's also collapsed in movies. There's

607
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: nothing funny that's being produced in movies anymore, I think

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Speaker 1: because they're.

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Speaker 3: All on the music top music acts in the nineties

610
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 3: were global superstars with tremendous cultural residence. And remember like

611
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Speaker 3: You Two, which now in retrospect, I actually would put it.

612
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 3: I listened to a lot of You Two in high school,

613
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: so I'm guilty of this too, and some of you're

614
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: gonna boom me for saying this kind of overrated. A

615
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: lot of the songs kind of sound the same. But

616
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Speaker 3: you two was sort of like Coldplay before there was Coldplay.

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Speaker 2: But they used to travel.

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Speaker 5: They'd meet with the Pope and then me with the

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Speaker 5: head of the un and every's oh and music and

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Speaker 5: Music's Gonna Save the world, the Live Aid and all

621
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Speaker 5: these different things that would go on the cultural impact

622
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Speaker 5: of the contemporary music scene twenty years ago and earlier

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Speaker 5: dwarfs what we have today by far.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, even Taylor Swift, she's super successful. I'm telling you

625
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Speaker 3: this right now. I'm calling my shot. Girls are not

626
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 3: gonna be listening to Taylor Swift songs in twenty thirty years.

627
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Speaker 3: It's forgettable stuff.

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Speaker 1: Mostly you're h you're one hundred wrong on that. I

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Speaker 1: give Taylor Swift credit. She's got awful politics, she writes

630
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Speaker 1: her own songs, she produces a new album.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying she's not super talented.

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Speaker 3: What's okay, Clay, what's the I'm gonna put him on

633
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 3: that I'm not good for mustache? What's the best Taylor

634
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 3: Swift song? You're gonna tell us when we come back

635
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Speaker 3: from this break.

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Speaker 1: I'll do that, and I guarantee you that all the

637
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Speaker 1: girls listening to Taylor Swift now will be rocking out

638
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Speaker 1: to it when they're seventy. By the way, serious press

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Speaker 1: conference underway. We'll give you the latest on the Savannah

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Speaker 2: Something that I need to tell you, guys, stuff but

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Speaker 2: I didn't tell you about before. It's very exciting.

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Speaker 3: At Clay's suggestion, I also have a mustache.

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Speaker 2: Just kidding.

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Speaker 3: At Clay's suggestion, I just want to see if you

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Speaker 3: go to our YouTube channel. I recorded the audiobook of

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Speaker 3: Manufacturing Delusion myself and it will also It is also

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Speaker 3: available for pre order right now. The book comes out

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Speaker 3: in two weeks, my friends, Feb seventeen, two weeks Manufacturing Delusion.

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Speaker 3: I need thank you guys to not wait. Though it's

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Speaker 3: a little bit like opening weekend at the movies. It's

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Speaker 3: all about that first week, and it's all about the

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Speaker 3: pre orders leading into the first week. The book is awesome. Okay,

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Speaker 3: there's really cool stuff. I talk in the beginning about

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Speaker 3: first my first CIA mission, which was to Nigeria of

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Speaker 3: all places which you have not heard me talk about

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Speaker 3: much here before on the show or at all. Really,

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Speaker 3: I've never talked about it on the air before. Some

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Speaker 3: crazy stuff going on over there back in the day.

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Speaker 3: And then I talk about a rock, I talk about Afghanistan,

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Speaker 3: I talk about NYPD Intelligence Division, but more importantly, I

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Speaker 3: talk about how the forces of the left and totalitarianism

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Speaker 3: brainwash you and truly use the tactics of mind control

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Speaker 3: that you would teach to a intelligence officer, that you

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Speaker 3: would use for a cult, that you would use for

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Speaker 3: Stalinist indoctrination. Cam they're using some of these tactics, and

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Speaker 3: that's what the book is all about. So please go

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Speaker 3: get a copy. Great for you, great for your kids.

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Speaker 3: And if you want the audio book, audiobook narrated by

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Speaker 3: yours truly, so if you like this voice of mine,

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Speaker 3: you will be able to have it all read to you,

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Speaker 3: which I think is very, very exciting stuff. Now, Clay,

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Speaker 3: thank you for letting me do the shameless plug. Mister Clay,

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Speaker 3: You're I was gonna say, this isn't a mustache question

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Speaker 3: the best Taylor Swift song. I'm just gonna Clay, tell

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Speaker 3: everyone what you said to me in the break about

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Speaker 3: Taylor Swift. I think she's a modern day version of

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Speaker 3: the Beatles. And when we come back, and this is

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Speaker 3: gonna be quite the tease, I will give you my

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Speaker 3: favorite Taylor Swift songs. I'll make it even stronger argument

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Speaker 3: about the Beatles, and much more seriously, what is the

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Speaker 3: latest on the story of Savannah Guthrie's mother and big

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Speaker 3: jury trial in New York, all that