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Speaker 2: Welcome Back number two.

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Speaker 3: Take eas Radio if I'm nine two eighth twenty two

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Speaker 3: five four. When this is over, Drew and I are

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Speaker 3: think I'm gonna go to the Sweet sixteen semi.

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Speaker 2: Finals in the morning.

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Speaker 3: Maybe, yeah, go see uh hopefully Lion County and Great

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Speaker 3: Crossing maybe playing and that'd be a good game.

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Speaker 4: They're getting ready to play Great Crossing in Mcgolfing County,

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Speaker 4: getting ready tip off right now.

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Speaker 5: That matters as a matter of fact.

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Speaker 2: So we'll we'll.

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Speaker 3: Keep you up to date on those that We'll show

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Speaker 3: those games all weekend at the Bar. Plenty of good

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Speaker 5: Come see us, come out.

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Speaker 2: There, go say hi to them. They need they need

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Speaker 5: Well, we're talking about ks bar.

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Speaker 4: You know we handed out all those little draftking basketballs

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Speaker 4: last night. Yeah, at the end of the game, let's

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Speaker 4: just say some of them got tossed around in here

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Speaker 2: Well, did they throw the basketballs at the TV?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were throwing them everywhere, you know, the big

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Speaker 5: They were throwing them up into that fan and so

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Speaker 6: A little at the Yeah, like a like an Ammo

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Speaker 2: At the TV.

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Speaker 6: But I've got one's got one.

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Speaker 2: I tell you, man, it was it was rough in

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Speaker 3: I got home last night, Ryan and they asked me

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Speaker 3: and right Drew and I were trying to figure out

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Speaker 2: Drew took a picture of me to do the interview.

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Speaker 3: I looked like a top tier media star.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure you did. I'm sure all the other media

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, all right, So I want to I just

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Speaker 3: And then in like June, Kyle Tucker wrote an article

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Speaker 3: But everything Kyle said in his article was true, and

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Speaker 3: And this is the truth about Kentucky basketball right now.

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Speaker 3: Like that's not normal. They don't have a relationship. Whose

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Speaker 3: But I know this, Mitch has some relationship with every

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Speaker 3: There were times that the biggest donors not only had

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Speaker 3: And the reasons are varied depending on person to person,

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Speaker 2: No relationship with the donors administration.

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Speaker 3: It's really the people on the staff, right, It's it's Bruiser, it's.

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Speaker 3: And then everybody else the athletics department, the the people

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Speaker 2: His heart. Then you have the media.

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Speaker 3: He's shut out every media member, every single one of them, one.

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Speaker 3: But also he's cultivating some relationship that they're all done

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Speaker 3: And the only ones that are left are set Greenberg,

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Speaker 7: Them without saying names. He's even gotten on some of

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Speaker 3: The people just starting and you know who some of

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Speaker 3: to three years of people going, Matt, you're just bitter

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Speaker 3: very impossible. He has built a foundation of the program

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Speaker 3: that is col centric, not Kentucky centric. Right, when Cal

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Speaker 3: And because of that, it's a Cal centric program. It's

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Speaker 3: buy him out. It's thirty three million dollars. I don't

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Speaker 3: some places they're not getting the money. I mean, there,

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Speaker 2: Ryan? Who's gonna do that?

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Speaker 3: I mean, most people aren't gonna do it. Now, is

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Speaker 3: it possible that it happens? Yeah, anything's possible, But that

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Speaker 2: How do you raise thirty three million dollars?

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Speaker 3: You have a coach who I don't think is leaving

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Speaker 3: he ain't Shannon, he ain't leaving in a discount.

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Speaker 6: Right, No, He's gonna get everything that he can.

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Speaker 3: So you're in this place that's like, what do you do?

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Speaker 3: But Mitch knows Mitch's had fourteen Mitch has not had.

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Speaker 2: A relationship with him in four teen years.

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Speaker 3: There comes a point where that's exhausting, right, And I

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Speaker 3: think it's said at all. When Mitch wouldn't talk last night,

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Speaker 3: I don't blame him, but how many times when Stoopis

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Speaker 3: express support last year when they lost, even after Saint

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Speaker 3: Peter's when they lost, Like he's expressed support every year. Ryan,

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Speaker 3: don't you think it's telling he wouldn't say anything yesterday.

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Speaker 4: I think that's very telling because he's usually very open

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Speaker 3: Really, he has lots of he has lots of faults.

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Speaker 3: But one thing Mitch is pretty good at me loyal.

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Speaker 3: And there's other things that one of these days we'll

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Speaker 3: When Kyle Tucker puts all that stuff in print, there's

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Speaker 3: It's exhausting. He is exhausting, and that's why I don't

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Speaker 7: So something would have to change because the game planning

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Speaker 6: You watch team did a little bit of prep. You know,

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Speaker 3: If we aren't good enough to beat Chandler being in basketball,

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Speaker 6: It's a roll of the dice every year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean here's what you do. Lose in December.

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Speaker 3: We're built for March, losing January, We're built for March.

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Speaker 3: That counts if you make it to where November, December, January,

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Speaker 2: Then when March we don't win, what counts?

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Speaker 3: Oh next year? Like it's just a complete like hidden

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Speaker 7: Coming, Tennessee football.

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Speaker 2: That's what you make fun of them for it. Who's

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Speaker 2: up next, Brick, Howie is up next? Howie go ahead?

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Speaker 2: Howie Hey, Matt, good morning.

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Speaker 8: I called last year about a year ago, a little

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Speaker 2: Enough to see yourself become a villain.

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Speaker 8: I think maybe time is past cow By and and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Afraid we got one more year of him.

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Speaker 8: He's either gonna have a good run next year, pumpus

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Speaker 3: Well, but I thought that was this year, right, Like

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Speaker 3: You think he's gonna have more likable players next year,

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Speaker 5: I can't see that happening. No, No, he's not.

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Speaker 2: This was supposed to be that year four bust. We

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Speaker 3: These guys, these were the guys, and we lost to Oakland.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back Kentucky Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Drew just tweeted out the picture of me trying to

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Speaker 3: do Ryan pardon my take last night at one in

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Speaker 3: the morning, I got a coffee pot holding up my phone.

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Speaker 3: He just tweeted out that was me last night. I

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Speaker 3: of the night. They're just starting their show at.

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Speaker 7: Like I'm over here dozing off on the couch and

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Speaker 2: Shout out to them.

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Speaker 3: Also, WKYT Shannon has just shown up at our house

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Speaker 2: So I feel like, uh, oh no. If you look

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Speaker 7: But it looks like we eat a lot of chocolate

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Speaker 3: True, right, I thought I got enough chocolate chip cookies

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Speaker 7: Yeah, this could have been a backpack trip again, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Eighth twenty eighty seven. Who's up next?

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Speaker 2: Brady is Brady? How are you? Brady? It's brain?

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Speaker 9: But you know, we're we're just hard.

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Speaker 2: We're so hurt.

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Speaker 10: We're tired of the same old same about four years straight.

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Speaker 10: I mean, this ain't the ghost there no more. I mean,

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Speaker 10: And CAW has not only lost one, not two, but

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Speaker 3: I mean, but yeah, they are one and they are

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: One in four in their last NCAA Tournament games. That's

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Speaker 3: and Kentucky's been favored in all ten of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, two and eight and Kentucky's been favored in all ten.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we're tired of the same old stuff. But Mitch

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Speaker 10: about this. I mean, we're so proud cow what he's

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Speaker 5: Good being the first first weekends.

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Speaker 2: That's what I appreciate to Cal. What about this?

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Speaker 2: I saw this this morning as well. Uh, since Cal

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Speaker 3: Going all the way back to twenty ten in the

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Speaker 5: That's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: North Carolina is the only time we were the underdog

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Speaker 7: The stat against me is Indiana basketball has more tournament

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Speaker 3: Only the second team in history, only second coach in history,

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Speaker 6: That is the definition of underachieving and that is not

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Speaker 5: But this is where we are.

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Speaker 2: This is this is our reality right now. Who's up next?

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Speaker 11: Sorry, I'm not gonna be able to see you all

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Speaker 2: I was looking forward to that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just wanted to get to Dallas. Phoenix was

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Speaker 11: But go ahead, yeah, and please drive safe on the

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, we'll talk about that.

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Speaker 3: I want to talk about First of all, you're exactly

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Speaker 3: I think in a number of years we have had

440
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Speaker 3: younger fans who grew up with him as the coach,

441
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Speaker 3: who have really been adamant taken up for him. And

442
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 3: I understand that, I give him credit, but even they

443
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 3: have kind of turned. But he has not been aligned

444
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Speaker 3: with the fans in.

445
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Speaker 2: A long time.

446
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Speaker 3: He's not been aligned with you know, he sees the

447
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 3: media as hostile. I mean, I'm sitting here. You got

448
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 3: Lee k and Steve Moss here. They're Kentuckians, like we've been.

449
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 3: We all been doing this forever. You guys longer me

450
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 3: like we we're not.

451
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Speaker 2: If we're hostile, good grief, what's what's the rest of

452
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Speaker 2: the world.

453
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Speaker 7: I'm a fanboy, I'm a blogger.

454
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 2: Fanboy supposed to do that. But let's say, rhyme, what

455
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 2: Mitch now? Because it is now on Mitch. What does

456
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 2: Mitch do if you were Mitch Ryan, what would you do?

457
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 2: Because it's because the caller's right, like, it's now on

458
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Speaker 2: him and his legacy. So what do you do?

459
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Speaker 4: You know, he was just faced with a tough decision

460
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 4: with the women's basketball program, and now he's got this

461
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 4: tough decision with the men's basketball program. But if he

462
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Speaker 4: looks at what the Kentucky basketball program has been the

463
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Speaker 4: last four years, it is unacceptable and he has to

464
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Speaker 4: make a change. Something has to change. I don't know

465
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Speaker 4: what exactly they do, but something has to change because

466
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Speaker 4: this isn't acceptable.

467
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Speaker 6: How many more years until we get to the part

468
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Speaker 6: of his contractor where he can be like the ambassador,

469
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Speaker 6: uh for the four more seasons?

470
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Speaker 5: I think that's.

471
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Speaker 6: Honestly, what's gonna happen. We're here with him for another

472
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Speaker 6: four years regardless.

473
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Speaker 3: I don't know how he can he how is it

474
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 3: gonna work? We I have not had one caller on

475
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Speaker 3: the post game show or one caller on the morning

476
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 3: show tell me they want him to stay.

477
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Speaker 5: Not one yep, Yeah, Like, how do you do that?

478
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Speaker 2: I don't know how you I don't know how you

479
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 2: do that?

480
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Speaker 5: Again, I don't want a program like Kentucky. How do

481
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 5: you do that?

482
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 2: You don't how do you do that?

483
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go put contact on so they don't see

484
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Speaker 3: me in my broken glasses and we'll be right back

485
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Speaker 3: to KSAR.

486
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Speaker 2: Walking back.

487
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Speaker 3: It is Tucky Sports Radio EIGHTF. I'm nine two twenty

488
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Speaker 3: two eighty seven. I put on my eyes so that

489
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 3: I look a little prettier in here for what we

490
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 3: got television in here.

491
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 7: Uh, talk about putting on my robe.

492
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 3: Literally everyone in the national media is like writing trying

493
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 3: to I mean, that's what everybody wants to talk about.

494
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, yeah, like what it is? What it is?

495
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 3: Uh, somebody. I've had a number of people ask me this, So,

496
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is a tought. This question is tough

497
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 3: for me to deal with, but I think you have

498
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 3: to deal with it.

499
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Speaker 2: Ryan.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of people ask him what about Joe Kraft,

501
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 3: Because at the end of the day, Joe Kraft is

502
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Speaker 3: Kentucky's biggest donor, right, you know.

503
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Speaker 2: I just I think that relationship probably isn't.

504
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of done with with col Joe,

505
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 3: Joe and Kelly are my friends and I so I

506
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 3: hesitate to get too far into it, but I thought,

507
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Speaker 3: I don't think it's a secret that, like he's a

508
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 3: football guy now, you know he Uh, that's just how

509
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 3: it is. He said he sat there at the game

510
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 3: last night with Vince Merriw. I mean, that's that's another thing.

511
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 3: I think cal has the biggest donor to UK sports.

512
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 3: I just don't think that relationship is good either.

513
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 7: Like you said in the first hour, it's one thing

514
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 7: to give your money to your alma mater, the team,

515
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 7: your support. But to literally just hand it to someone

516
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 7: to go away your harder money, someone you've had a

517
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 7: falling out with, that's a big ask for anyone. I mean,

518
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 7: that is like a personal I am just rewarding you

519
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 7: for letting me down to get you out of here.

520
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 7: And that's different than building a building or given to

521
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 7: a fund at UK. That's just handing money to someone

522
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Speaker 7: you don't like.

523
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Speaker 2: Hey, you know, Joe and Kelly I think are very

524
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Speaker 2: good people.

525
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Speaker 3: I know, obviously they've gotten in the political game and

526
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 3: so some people have strong feelings about that. I try

527
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 3: to set that aside in judging people. I think they're

528
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 3: both very good, charitable people. But like you know, you

529
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 3: don't make a lot of money by making stupid decisions

530
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 3: and it's gonna be hard to write somebody a check

531
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Speaker 3: Ryan that you don't have a great relationship with to

532
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Speaker 3: go away.

533
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Speaker 2: I mean, like that's just not something people will want

534
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Speaker 2: to do.

535
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Speaker 4: Right, absolutely, And so you know, if you're sitting there, well,

536
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 4: the big donors that have always, always, always been behind

537
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 4: basketball and now they're behind football, there's a reason for that.

538
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Speaker 2: That's damning. Yeah, I think the football team.

539
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:24,479
Speaker 3: Okay, if it were just Kentucky donors, because again there

540
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 3: are some donors to basketball in IL that are Caliperry guys.

541
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Speaker 3: But if you were just talking Kentucky donors, I think

542
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 3: there's more money to be donated now for football in

543
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Speaker 3: Ile than basketball.

544
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Speaker 2: Right. You ever think that sentence would have been said

545
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Speaker 2: at the University of Kentucky.

546
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Speaker 4: Never, never, never, never, not even a couple of years ago,

547
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Speaker 4: I ever thought that would ever happen.

548
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: But that is it. That's true now.

549
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Speaker 3: I think that that is true, and that's a legacy

550
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 3: of where we are, like, that's that's that's a legacy

551
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Speaker 3: of what's what this has been like now.

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Speaker 7: I don't think you're wrong. I mean, I don't know

553
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 7: all the rich people behind the scenes giving money but

554
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 7: of the names I'm familiar with, it seems they're much

555
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 7: more focused on football these last four or five years

556
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 7: than basketball, which is part of it's just isolating yourself

557
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 7: personal relationships. So what I'm saying, he's isolating himself, and.

558
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Speaker 3: I'll go back to something the basketball football school thing.

559
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 3: Here's why that was so damning for this university is

560
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 3: that people took sides, and you know, once you take

561
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 3: a side, it's hard to back off from that. And

562
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 3: that's one of the reasons we got to stop perpetuating

563
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 3: it because people just were like, all right, I'm on

564
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 3: this side now. And unfortunately, I don't think two years later,

565
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: we've totally gotten over that, Ryan, do you know.

566
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Speaker 4: I think we're still feeling the sting of it. And

567
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 4: when it comes to the donors, I think that is

568
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 4: a direct result of some of that that happened.

569
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Speaker 3: And let's also be real. Look, we're being real on

570
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 3: Friday morning. The head coaches don't like each other.

571
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Speaker 5: Yeah, like, let's just see real.

572
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 2: I mean they don't.

573
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 7: What happened to a lot of familiar all one university here.

574
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 3: I mean they don't like each other either. So it's like,

575
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: you do wonder how can it continue like that?

576
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Speaker 5: I got to say one more thing.

577
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Speaker 4: When the football recruits used to come in, they used

578
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 4: to take them to Cal's office and he would openly

579
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 4: and gladly visit with football recruits, women's basketball recruits, swimmers.

580
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Speaker 2: Whoever.

581
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Speaker 5: I don't know if that happens anymore.

582
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't need uh, certainly, not for football. Maybe

583
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: for some of the other ones. Who's up next? Justin?

584
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: Is up next? Justin? Go ahead, justin?

585
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Speaker 12: Yes, I've called many times through the years. I've called

586
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 12: a few times. This year I've taken flat for saying

587
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 12: I don't think this team's really gonna make it far

588
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 12: in the tournament. It was the inconsistency. I'm tired of

589
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 12: cal mocking US fans. I'm really sick of it, saying

590
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 12: that we're not a fan because we say, oh, this

591
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 12: year is a bus because we don't do.

592
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: X or Y.

593
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Speaker 11: This is ridiculous.

594
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 12: US fans pays for his salary without us filling the

595
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 12: damn arena. His salary doesn't get paid. And I don't

596
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 12: care about the players that's coming in next year. I do,

597
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 12: but I don't I do because they're not gonna get

598
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 12: the best experience of the Kentucky.

599
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 3: Basketball and that's a disc for those guys. Next year, Yeah,

600
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 3: next year is gonna be so hard for those guys.

601
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: And it's not their fault. But whoever they are coming

602
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: next year, you're right justin it's not gonna be the

603
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 3: experience for them that it should be.

604
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 12: Unfortunately, and I don't want to hear any more basketball

605
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 12: bennies from cal A lot of us have said all

606
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 12: year that we should be starting the best lineups, not

607
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 12: even this year. We even knew last year what the

608
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 12: best lineup was, and he still wouldn't do it.

609
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: And it's out of spite because it's.

610
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 12: The fans saying it, and it's the media saying it.

611
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 12: And this is ridiculous. He's running our program, our historic program,

612
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 12: into the damn dirt, and I'm tired of watching it.

613
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: It's not right they you just uh, all right, I'm

614
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to say this as ryan as diplomatically

615
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: as possible. Okay, all right, because I felt this way

616
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 3: for three years, and I have held it in most

617
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 3: of the time to try to keep the peace. I

618
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: am so tired of listening to John cal Perry tell

619
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Speaker 3: people what they can and can't say. And how they

620
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: can and can't fan. I am so tired of the

621
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Speaker 3: basketball Bennies. Did you see what I did? You know

622
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 3: you guys want this, but I did. I am so

623
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: tired of that. What Justin said is correct. He's a

624
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 3: better coach. He's forgotten more than I will ever know

625
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 3: about coaching.

626
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: But it ain't that.

627
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Speaker 3: This isn't rocket signs. Okay, this isn't brain surgery. This

628
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: is basketball, and you should play the best players. And

629
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 3: we don't are starting lineup. There are thirty four lineups

630
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 3: that have played at least fifty forty possessions this year.

631
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 3: Our starting lineup is thirty third out of thirty fourth inefficient.

632
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: I don't care. You don't have to be a rocket

633
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: scientist to know that's not the way to go.

634
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: Reid, Rob and Reeves, with Shepherd playing poorly, were plus

635
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: four last night when they weren't intellectively, we were minus eight.

636
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 3: You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that.

637
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: It was not insane to think Cason Wallace should have

638
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 3: been the point.

639
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: Guard last year.

640
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 3: It wasn't insane to think ty Ty Washington should have

641
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: been the point guard two years ago. Yet when people

642
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: said it, we were told they're not fans, they don't

643
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 3: get it built for March. Blah blah blah. I'm so

644
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 3: tired of that. I'm so tired of the condescension. I mean,

645
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: I'm someone who can be condescending if it's too much

646
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 3: for me. That should say a lot.

647
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: I'm tired of it. These fans will be here.

648
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 3: We're here before him, they'll be here after him, and

649
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 3: they have a right to express their feelings, and they

650
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: have a right to disagree.

651
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: With cal and not be told they are not fans.

652
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: They have a right to say, you know what, I

653
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: think we should do this, and not be told stay

654
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 3: at home and cheer and don't try to coach.

655
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: They do because one day he will leave and these

656
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: people will still be here.

657
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 3: You know, we sometimes talk about older fans, but there

658
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 3: are people listening here who watched, you know, Louis Dampier

659
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Speaker 3: play right and who are here when Rup coached. And

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Speaker 3: there are younger people here who will see the coach

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Speaker 3: fifty years from now. The condescension towards the way he

662
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 3: talks to our fan base, I'm just over it, Ryan,

663
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: I am, And a lot of times I don't think

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Speaker 3: he hates the fans, to be quite frank with you,

665
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Speaker 3: I think he hates a lot of them media, and

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Speaker 3: so he's talking to us, but he's talking about the

667
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Speaker 3: fans in doing it, and Ryan, I'm just I'm over it.

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00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 3: I'm so over the condescension. If you win, then be

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Speaker 3: as condescending as you want, you basketball. But when you

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Speaker 3: lose to Oakland and you're condescending, Ryan, I'm just done

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Speaker 3: with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: When he when they were winning and he would talk

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Speaker 4: that way to us, we would kind of laugh it off.

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00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 4: All that's just cocky cow, swaggy cow. But now when

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00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 4: they're losing and he's talking to us like that, that

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Speaker 4: that that gets old real quick.

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Speaker 2: Shanon, what do you think of that?

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Speaker 6: You know, fans will tolerate, Like Ryan says, winning cures

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00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 6: all at the end of the day, right, so you

681
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 6: can get away with your cute comments and see what

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Speaker 6: I did there. Fans will tolerate that. When you're winning.

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Speaker 6: You gotta read the room. When you lose to Oakland

684
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Speaker 6: in the first round, fans don't want to hear that.

685
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 6: They're not going to tolerate that.

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Speaker 2: Go back and watch his press conference after they beat Auburn.

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Speaker 7: Oh unhinged behavior.

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Speaker 2: Go back watch his press conference.

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Speaker 3: Now, of course we can't say anything at the time

690
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Speaker 3: because we just beat Auburn, right, but where is that

691
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: energy when you lose to Oakland? Seriously, where is that

692
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 3: condescension that you showcase when we win Tennessee and Auburn.

693
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 3: Where is that when you lose to Saint Peter's and

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00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 3: Wilmington and Oakland? Think about those teams. I'm talking about Evansville, Wilmington, Oakland,

695
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Speaker 3: Saint Peter's.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this ain't the murderers row here that we've

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Speaker 2: lost to in the last few years.

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Speaker 7: I think at Auburn he said, oh, you all traveled

699
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 7: here to see me lose. No, we traveled to Nashville

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Speaker 7: into the NCAA tournament to see lous.

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Speaker 3: First of all, just think about that statement. That's how

702
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 3: he started it. You traveled here to see we lose.

703
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 3: How arrogant. No, here's why we traveled. We love Kentucky basketball.

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00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: It's not about you, it's about it.

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Speaker 7: He also showed some colors when he said he called

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00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 7: Reed y'all's favorite player and comm that one stuck will

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Speaker 7: be a lot.

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Speaker 5: That said a lot.

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Speaker 3: When he said y'all's favorite player Ryan, he said it

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Speaker 3: with condescension, like I know you like him.

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Speaker 2: That's what he if that one hurt and that's you

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00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 2: know what, Ryan, that's not fair.

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Speaker 5: To read Shepherd. Nope, Nope, it's not.

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Speaker 4: And he's had a chip on his shoulder for Reid,

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Speaker 4: I think all year because he knew he was a

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Speaker 4: crowd favorite.

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Speaker 3: He's had a chip on his shoulder for Antonio Reeves

718
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 3: because he didn't think he should play and now he's

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00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 3: our best player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, same with Shephard.

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Speaker 7: It took the whole team being injured last year for

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Speaker 7: Reeves to truly get his you know, shoot him Antonio game.

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Speaker 3: We have an All American and Antonio Reeves who for

724
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: half of the season last year he wouldn't even play,

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Speaker 3: and he's not an All American.

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Speaker 6: That type of spiteful behavior towards media, towards fans is

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00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 6: toxic and toxic.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right. It's toxic. It is toxic, and it

729
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: has caused our fan base to fight with each other.

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Speaker 3: I say this all the time, and you hear me.

731
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 3: You'll hear me talk about it a lot with politics,

732
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 3: but I say this all the time. I'm always like,

733
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: hey man, why are you being so rude to a

734
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 3: stranger that I'm sure you would like over a politician

735
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 3: you'll never meet. Right, You're never gonna meet Joe Biden

736
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 3: or Donald Trump? So why are you yelling at a

737
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 3: stranger about somebody you'll never meet? That person that you're

738
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: sitting with One of these days, if your house gets flooded,

739
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 3: they'll donate money to help you. You know who won't

740
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 3: Donald Trump or Joe Biden. So why are you yelling

741
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: at him about that? When it's not like real life.

742
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 3: This fan base has been going at each other's throat

743
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 3: because of toxicity that we don't deserve. We just don't

744
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 3: and it's easy for people to blame us for that.

745
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 3: But the problem is that the overall culture of being

746
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 3: together Drew has gone away in recent years.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, like I said, when he leaves him, never that is,

749
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 7: we're all still gonna be here. We're gonna have to

750
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 7: look at each other like, well that was awkward, and

751
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 7: we all yelled at each other there for a while.

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00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 7: It's things like just a week ago, that energy in

753
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 7: Nashville was so awesome. I met so many amazing people

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00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 7: with cool stories. And while they're there, and then he's

755
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 7: like well, this doesn't matter. But I guess for you all,

756
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 7: we'll fake it. But then they're gonna be mad. We

757
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 7: bowled on Sunday. It's like, why can't you just be like?

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00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 7: That means a lot to everyone. We wanted to win it.

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00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 7: We fell short.

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Speaker 2: I mean again, two guys here, Lee, Ky and Steve.

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Speaker 2: You know what it's like.

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Speaker 3: You've been in that tournament for twenty five years. It

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00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: matters to us, and for fifteen years. He tried to

764
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 3: talk us out of it. Finally he's given in and go.

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Speaker 3: I get it that it matters to you, but it.

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Speaker 7: Doesn't feel genuine. We know, I mean, Bruisers said the

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00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 7: week before, told on Cal He's like, we're saying internally

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Speaker 7: it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Well, what matters? Then he said last night, I don't

770
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Speaker 2: want this to define the season.

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Speaker 7: Well, what does define the season next year's class?

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Speaker 3: We will take a break, come back for the final

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Speaker 3: segment here in Pittsburgh. It's Kentucky Sports Radio. Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: It is Kentucky Sports Radio AVE nine two eight zero

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Speaker 3: twenty two eighty seven. The text machine is seven seven

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Speaker 3: got four minutes left. Let's take a call first, and

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Speaker 3: then I want to finish with all four.

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Speaker 2: Of us with something. Who's up next? Randy is up next? Randy,

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Speaker 2: go ahead, Randy.

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Speaker 9: Good morning, gentlemen. I just got a couple questions. How

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Speaker 9: good is he at developing talent? Because it seems like

801
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 9: after they leave here and they go to the league,

802
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 9: guess what they become All Stars? So is he the

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Speaker 9: factor of that or is it the next coach?

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Speaker 3: I think he's very good at I think he's very

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Speaker 3: good at taking talent and cultivating it in a process

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00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 3: where it gets better. I do think he deserves credit

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Speaker 3: for that. I mean, reed, Shephard, I mean, just look

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Speaker 3: at what Reid's done this year. He has improved exponentially.

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00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 3: Tyler Hero did Maxy quickly. So I don't think it's

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00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: fair to say he's not good at developing talent. You

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00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 3: can question whether or not it wins at the college level.

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Speaker 3: But I do think he is good at developing guys.

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Speaker 3: I think I think you do have to give even

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Speaker 3: credit for that.

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Speaker 9: But if they would stick around, I wonder what they

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Speaker 9: would be like the second year. I guess this is

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Speaker 9: my question, guys. But and third, or my second point

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Speaker 9: here is we're stuck with him. I don't see it changing.

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Speaker 9: You know, I'm a season ticket holder. I talked to

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Speaker 9: a fella from Louisville. There was a season ticket holder

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Speaker 9: this morning and he said, you know what, next November,

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Speaker 9: we'll come back to that arena and we'll sit there

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Speaker 9: and we'll cheer them on. But do we believe any

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Speaker 9: of what's happening?

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Speaker 3: No, we will, yeah, no, But I mean, like I

826
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: think most fans will do that. But the question is,

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Speaker 3: and I appreciate the call, how much toxicity do we

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Speaker 3: want to.

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Speaker 2: Deal with between now and then? Because that's what it is.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's this is a year round sport in Kentucky.

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Speaker 7: We in the summer, we're looking forward to the schedule

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00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 7: and just nonsense. We're talking about a player's tweet that

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Speaker 7: he put up that means nothing, just because we want

834
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Speaker 7: to consume every little piece of Kentucky basketball we can get.

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Speaker 7: But this summer that will be brutal. If it's exactly

836
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Speaker 7: what it's been recently, all the fun in the it

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00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 7: is being a fan will will be gone.

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Speaker 6: At least all the fans, though, will be on the

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Speaker 6: same page for the most part.

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Speaker 5: We won't be divided like we do.

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Speaker 3: I do think this is not gonna be as divided.

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Speaker 3: I agree with that people are kind of on the

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00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 3: same page. All right, let's do this first of all, Uh,

844
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 3: sweet sixteen. Great Crossing is beating mcgoffin County. They're gonna

845
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: go to the semifinals line County plays next. We will

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00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 3: have all the games on at cas Bar, including the

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Speaker 3: NCAA games. Ryan and Shann are going to be there today.

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00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 3: Go say hi to them. They're bummed out. Drew and

849
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 3: I are gonna be driving. Uh if you get a

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Speaker 3: chance to come watch the games this weekend at the bar,

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00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 3: i'd appreciate. For the fourth year in a row, we

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00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 3: bought a lot of food and we lose on day one.

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00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: So if yeah, so, uh you can, if you want

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00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 3: to drink or whatever, they've got specials that would be nice.

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00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 3: But Ryan and Chann will be there today, go see him.

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00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: Let's finish with this. What where are we going to be?

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Speaker 3: Where are we gonna be?

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Speaker 2: Ryan? What's gonna happen over the next two weeks?

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Speaker 4: I think I don't think anything's gonna change out to mean,

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Speaker 4: I think he's still gonna be our co which and

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Speaker 4: I think we've been still going to have our hopes

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Speaker 4: up again with another exciting freshman recruiting class, and we'll

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Speaker 4: hope and pray and.

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Speaker 5: Get excited about March again. Next year.

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Speaker 6: I think it's just a repeat, wash Rents repeat. I

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Speaker 6: hate to agree with you, but I think that's exactly

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Speaker 6: what's going to happen. We're gonna be talking about next

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00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 6: season again. But at some point these next seasons have

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Speaker 6: to come to an end, and you got to figure

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Speaker 6: out when that's supposed to be.

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Speaker 5: This season was supposed to be that year.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Drew, they have to figure something out. In my brain,

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Speaker 7: I don't know how that will get figured out, and

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Speaker 7: I don't know it'll be in the next week, but

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Speaker 7: I just next season, I can't see it being this

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Speaker 7: exact same movie we've watched the last four years.

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Speaker 3: I think the next three days are pretty crucial to

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Speaker 3: see what the most the people that are most influential

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Speaker 3: on this, what direction do they go. I think I

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Speaker 3: think by Monday or Tuesday, we'll have a good idea

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Speaker 3: of where this is going. I'm not as definitive as

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Speaker 3: you that it's not that this is gonna be salvaged,

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Speaker 3: but if it is, I'm gonna pull for him. But

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Speaker 3: I think this is this is gonna be a tumultuous

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Speaker 3: weekend for UK basketball. While Mitch's trying to hire a woman.

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Speaker 2: Busy too, I mean, so good.

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Speaker 3: Look, Hey, thank you all for listening while we're in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: Have the best weekend you can. We'll see you Monday.

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Speaker 3: It's been Kentucky Sports Radio.