Speaker 1: I Am all in Again. Oh that's you. I Am
Speaker 1: all in Again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 2: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast one
Speaker 2: eleven productions, iHeartRadio Media, iHeart Podcast Season two, Episode three,
Speaker 2: Red Light on Wedding Night, Air date October sixteenth, two
Speaker 2: thousand and one. Have a very very special guest. She
Speaker 2: played Summer and her name is Jacqueline Michelle. Jacqueline, welcome
Speaker 2: to the show.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I'm so honored.
Speaker 1: It's great to have you. Let's jump into this. We
Speaker 1: got a lot lot to get to here with this episode,
Speaker 1: a very busy episode.
Speaker 2: The synopsis is Suki throws a wild bachelorette party for Lourlei,
Speaker 2: who has a sudden impulse to call Rory's father, Christopher
Speaker 2: when it comes to a startling realization about her wedding day.
Speaker 2: All right, so, Jacqueline Max Medina is back and he's
Speaker 2: he's back with a vengeance and Laura Lai invites him
Speaker 2: for a sleepover, but he feels weird having a She
Speaker 2: feels weird having a boy in her bed and has
Speaker 2: to hide in Rory's for a bit, which was actually
Speaker 2: really funny.
Speaker 1: The nature of their relationship on full display.
Speaker 2: And the next morning they go to Luke's and Mac
Speaker 2: needs Max needs a moment to browse the menu. So
Speaker 2: now we're starting to see a little bit of separation
Speaker 2: between these two and maybe it's not going to be
Speaker 2: so such a smooth transition. And later Max hammers at
Speaker 2: Laura l for a set of keys at the house.
Speaker 2: Jacqueline was was Max right or wrong to push Flora
Speaker 2: I to get the k's the house?
Speaker 4: I mean, I think he has every right to get
Speaker 4: the key to the house. He's about to marry her,
Speaker 4: and so I would imagine if I was Max, I
Speaker 4: would be feeling similar feelings, like, come on, I'm about
Speaker 4: to marry you.
Speaker 3: You can't even give me the keys to the front
Speaker 3: to the house.
Speaker 1: Were you? Were you a bit taken to Barrack? What
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 2: He really lit into her a little bit, you know,
Speaker 2: he said, well, you know, called her selfish, and you know,
Speaker 2: had some real bite to his tone.
Speaker 1: What'd you think of that? You think that was a
Speaker 1: little much?
Speaker 4: You know, I think maybe he could have expressed it
Speaker 4: a little kinder, But I mean they were about to
Speaker 4: get married, So I would imagine if you're about to
Speaker 4: marry someone and they're not willing to give you the
Speaker 4: front door key. That's a little bit of a I
Speaker 4: don't know, that would alarm something within myself, like, oh,
Speaker 4: maybe she doesn't trust me.
Speaker 3: Why does she not want to give me the front
Speaker 3: door key?
Speaker 1: Right? But do you think that?
Speaker 2: I mean, he was kind kind of coming on Glude
Speaker 2: even the night before with how do I handle the
Speaker 2: Rory Christopher thing if you're not here? And he just
Speaker 2: seems to sort of become unhinged a little bit and panicked,
Speaker 2: and he wants answers and this is this is how
Speaker 2: it's got to be. And then he and then he
Speaker 2: and then he lays into her with the key thing.
Speaker 2: Do you think that he was the one that was
Speaker 2: responsible for getting Lauralai to start having second thoughts?
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe a little bit, But I ultimately think
Speaker 4: Laura l I just knew deep down that she didn't
Speaker 4: want to that it just wasn't right, that that wasn't
Speaker 4: the the person she was supposed to.
Speaker 2: Marry, right, because this is maybe his true self was
Speaker 2: coming out, like he was going to turn into a nag.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you.
Speaker 2: Think Luke was being rude to Max when he breakfast
Speaker 2: when he came in to the diner.
Speaker 1: I think that was rudeness.
Speaker 3: I think Luke being Luke.
Speaker 4: I thought that there was a really funny line where
Speaker 4: he said something about three newspapers and that's really good
Speaker 4: for the trees or something like that. I think he's
Speaker 4: just you know, being a friend to Laura Lei and
Speaker 4: he's just being Luke.
Speaker 3: I don't think he was necessarily being rude.
Speaker 1: Some competitive yeah if going on there?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think Luke subtly and not so subtly sabotaged that
Speaker 2: relationship in the way that he could. And I think
Speaker 2: it ended with the hoopa do you think you know,
Speaker 2: you hate to think that anybody is cynical here, but
Speaker 2: you know, love is a battleground? As who said that
Speaker 2: in that famous song from the eighties, Love is a battle?
Speaker 2: Is it Deborah Harry? Something like that? We all know
Speaker 2: all's fair in love and war. Do you think Luke
Speaker 2: was launching his version of a love war for Laura's heart?
Speaker 4: Sweet moment where they're sitting on the stairs and you know,
Speaker 4: Luke says, you know, and Laura I ask him, do
Speaker 4: you really think that you can you know, evolve with
Speaker 4: another partner? And I think if you find the right
Speaker 4: person and they don't try to change you, or he
Speaker 4: says a few other things, I.
Speaker 3: Think it's like a really beautiful moment.
Speaker 4: And I think Lorala I just realizes that, yeah, Max
Speaker 4: isn't really the one. I think deep down she knows
Speaker 4: that he's he's she's not ready to marry him because
Speaker 4: he's not the one. And I think that is a
Speaker 4: really beautiful moment that Luke and Laura I share. After
Speaker 4: you he gives her the hoop up and they're sitting
Speaker 4: on the stairs.
Speaker 2: That was quite a hippo, wasn't it. I mean the
Speaker 2: detail on that thing. That's Luke the artisan. I mean, boy,
Speaker 2: that that thing must have taken some time. I mean
Speaker 2: that looked like it took years. It's all right, Now
Speaker 2: we're gonna go and we're doing storylines. We're gonna we're
Speaker 2: gonna hit on storylines. Another storyline in this is the
Speaker 2: double date, okay, which is very telling. So Dean gives
Speaker 2: Max some guidance on how to handle the go more
Speaker 2: girls and they're eating habits And I really enjoyed this,
Speaker 2: the Dean Max dynamic. I thought it was really a
Speaker 2: nice switcheroo. And unexpected and really fun and it really
Speaker 2: made Dean look good. Max talks about wanting to be
Speaker 2: a parent to Rory, and then we have Dean's monologues
Speaker 2: and they're reading habits are are just the start of
Speaker 2: what you're.
Speaker 1: Going to have to get used to.
Speaker 2: There's tons of stuff you should be aware of, and
Speaker 2: Max is really, oh yeah, like don't ever use the
Speaker 2: last of the parmesan cheese, and never get into a
Speaker 2: heavy discussion late at night, because that's when they're at
Speaker 2: their crankiest at Oh you know, go with their bits,
Speaker 2: their bits, Yeah, like if you're eating pizza with them
Speaker 2: and Laurel I decide that the pepperoni is angry at
Speaker 2: the mushroom, so all that great dialogue, just answer the pepperoni,
Speaker 2: Max answered the pepperonie, and don't let him get near
Speaker 2: puppies because they't want to take them. All, you know,
Speaker 2: all this wonderful Gillmore stuff. And this is where I
Speaker 2: think Gilmore Girls really lives with this great detail and
Speaker 2: this this this wonderful humor. What do you think about
Speaker 2: all that's coming out of Dean? Was was Dean? Was
Speaker 2: Dean resigned to the fact and so in love with
Speaker 2: Rory that he was. He's now adapted and he's going
Speaker 2: to help his older friend to a doubt. What did
Speaker 2: you think of that scene?
Speaker 4: I think he was just educating him and trying to
Speaker 4: give him a heads up and trying to you know,
Speaker 4: I mean the appetite and the ice cream and how
Speaker 4: just say okay, chocolate ice cream, chocolate chip ice cream,
Speaker 4: and just I guess happy wife, a happy life, right right?
Speaker 1: For that is that is true?
Speaker 2: And look, this is this is old territory for me
Speaker 2: about the appropriate appropriateness of this relationship to begin with.
Speaker 2: I in the beginning, in the first go round four
Speaker 2: years ago this podcast, I was just totally against this relationship.
Speaker 1: I thought it was.
Speaker 2: Bad for Rory all the way around. Really, and why
Speaker 2: is Laurlai doing this? Don't you think it relationships appropriate
Speaker 2: at all?
Speaker 3: With Dean?
Speaker 1: With Max?
Speaker 3: Oh? Max?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Rory's teacher, So I mean you're starting off
Speaker 4: off the bat where you're dating your your daughter's teacher.
Speaker 3: So that's a little tricky. And I mean, I think
Speaker 3: it was sweet for.
Speaker 4: A while, but I think we realized, I mean, for me,
Speaker 4: I was always rooting for Luke and Laurli to be together.
Speaker 4: There was just no other person I wanted Laura I
Speaker 4: to be with so and I think most fans would
Speaker 4: probably feel.
Speaker 3: The same way.
Speaker 4: So I think it was just a relationship on the
Speaker 4: way for her to get to you.
Speaker 3: In my personal experience, you know.
Speaker 2: Max seems to be very kind of masterful and loose
Speaker 2: in his life, right and when he's relating to Lauraai.
Speaker 1: But when they're together and alone, he gets tight.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Lucas the opposite.
Speaker 2: Lucas seems to be very tight in his life and
Speaker 2: very constricted and restricted and frustrated, but when he's with her,
Speaker 2: it all seems to flow, doesn't it.
Speaker 4: I feel like the best of each other comes out
Speaker 4: when they're together. They're just so natural and real and
Speaker 4: there's no pretending or you know, I mean the fact
Speaker 4: that Loralai went into Rory's room the first we're having
Speaker 4: a man's sleepover, I just wanted to, you know, the
Speaker 4: fact that she went in there, and then the scene cuts,
Speaker 4: so you don't know whether she actually just slept in
Speaker 4: the bed with Rory that night, you know, like they
Speaker 4: fell asleep, or if she actually went back into the
Speaker 4: bedroom with Max. But I'm imagining if Max woke up
Speaker 4: in the morning and Laura I wasn't there and she
Speaker 4: was snuggling Rory at he would probably be pretty upset.
Speaker 4: But yeah, Loreli and Luke they just bring out the
Speaker 4: best in each other.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I think that's a great observation. That gets tight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a little tight. All right.
Speaker 2: Now the traffic light, all right, this was very funny.
Speaker 2: Love love Michael Winters, just love the Taylor Dosy stuff
Speaker 2: is so much fun. So Taylor has a traffic light
Speaker 2: and a crosswalk place right outside of Luke Steiner, right
Speaker 2: there on the corner. And we all know what's going
Speaker 2: to happen now, the fireworks, the Luke fireworks and this
Speaker 2: traffic light really summarizes small time life. When when you're watching,
Speaker 2: tell me what you think think about this small town life,
Speaker 2: Taylor being Taylor, Kirk being Kirk, etc.
Speaker 1: What do you think of this? You think this was
Speaker 1: a big deal.
Speaker 3: It's like Taylor just trying to express his you know, power.
Speaker 3: He loves to have the power, and it's like so absurd.
Speaker 3: They don't need a stop sign and then it's not
Speaker 3: something that's necessary. I think it's just him trying to
Speaker 3: express his power.
Speaker 4: I don't think the town really cares. And the fact
Speaker 4: that they had that elderly lady. I can't remember the.
Speaker 3: Name of her active She's going to be the first
Speaker 3: person to cross the street, right, hilarious. It's really fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, great stuff, classic Luke and Taylor, friction, sparks fly and.
Speaker 1: Just loved working with that man. Miss him dearly.
Speaker 2: All right, now, let's go to the bachelorette party. Suki
Speaker 2: takes Michelle miss Patty Rory to a bar for Lorelei's
Speaker 2: bachelorette with a surprise appearance from Emily, and Laurel steps
Speaker 2: away from the party to call Christopher after Emily's very
Speaker 2: touching speech about you know, the week before she was
Speaker 2: to marry Richard and how and love she was and
Speaker 2: how she tried on her wedding dress every day every
Speaker 2: night and anticipated the big day. And Laurela I wasn't
Speaker 2: experiencing any of that. So she stepped away from the party.
Speaker 2: She had a couple of drinks in her and she
Speaker 2: called Christopher.
Speaker 1: This was a big deal. I mean, that was a
Speaker 1: big reveal. Were you were you shocked?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: When the camera hit Christopher.
Speaker 4: Yes, I thought maybe she was going to call Luke Joe,
Speaker 4: And I think the fact that she called him it
Speaker 4: was just kind of like a cry, like do you
Speaker 4: think I'm making the right decision? She was almost asking
Speaker 4: that question. I think she's said something similar to you
Speaker 4: know that? And I think that it was very telling
Speaker 4: in that moment. I think we realized, what is she
Speaker 4: you know?
Speaker 3: She doesn't?
Speaker 4: Really this is she doesn't. This is not gonna be
Speaker 4: good if she's calling her her ex.
Speaker 1: Party, right.
Speaker 2: And this, here's here's a prime example of how Amy
Speaker 2: and Dan Pelatino get the audience to participate in the proceedings. Here,
Speaker 2: they're not in. The audience is on the edge of
Speaker 2: their seat because who's Laura gonna call? Right, because nobody knows.
Speaker 2: That's that's actively participating in the narrative. That's getting an
Speaker 2: audience really to lean lean into this show. And like
Speaker 2: you said, and I agree, I thought I thought she
Speaker 2: was going to call Luke.
Speaker 1: Was surprised. So did you wish she called Luke? Do
Speaker 1: you think she should have called Luke or was it
Speaker 1: two on the nose?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think maybe it was a little bit. People
Speaker 4: would expect that, so I think it was a little
Speaker 4: I think she called Christopher because you know, maybe she's
Speaker 4: known him the longest.
Speaker 3: It's the father of the older, and she just needed that.
Speaker 3: I don't know that supporter. She just needed to.
Speaker 4: Share with him what was going on. And I think
Speaker 4: maybe she wanted him to say, like, don't do it.
Speaker 4: I don't know who knows, but I think she just
Speaker 4: needed to talk to somebody that she'd known to a lot,
Speaker 4: known a long.
Speaker 2: Time, because she's had those conversations when she was Christopher before,
Speaker 2: when she was sixteen about her own family.
Speaker 1: And are we doing the right thing here?
Speaker 2: You know, she had many conversations with Christopher about that
Speaker 2: when she was pregnant with Rory. Did you realize that
Speaker 2: the bachelorette party, Jacqueline that Laurel I wasn't going to
Speaker 2: marry Max.
Speaker 4: I think you could tell that she was doubting it,
Speaker 4: but I don't think that it was one hundred percent
Speaker 4: revealed that she wasn't going to do it. I mean,
Speaker 4: I think the moment she called Chris that was definitely
Speaker 4: like okay, a little bit of a red flag. And
Speaker 4: I do think he could see in her face a
Speaker 4: little bit when she when her mother was talking and
Speaker 4: she was saying how she would put the dress on
Speaker 4: and the tiar on, and then when when she wasn't
Speaker 4: with Richard, she was always thinking about where he was.
Speaker 4: And so I think that you could tell a little
Speaker 4: bit on her face that maybe she was having doubts.
Speaker 4: But I don't think as just a fan and watching that,
Speaker 4: I would know in that moment that she was going
Speaker 4: to call the wedding off.
Speaker 1: Were you happy that it was starting to go south
Speaker 1: a little bit?
Speaker 4: Yes, because I was always a fan of I just
Speaker 4: wanted my daughter and I, you know, we just recently
Speaker 4: watched the whole series. That was a beautiful experience for
Speaker 4: us to watch together. And from the beginning, we always
Speaker 4: wanted Luke and Laura I to get back to be together.
Speaker 4: That was just that's what was meant to be.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm yeah, yeah, Well, now that takes us to
Speaker 2: the hoopah. Luke makes a hooper for Laura Lyon Max
Speaker 2: to get married under and as we see that last shot,
Speaker 2: Lucan Lorelai are standing under it. The love this man
Speaker 2: has for Laura Li. What kind of strength is that
Speaker 2: tell us about that?
Speaker 4: I feel like it's what all relationships should be based on,
Speaker 4: and that's a friendship. I feel like at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, Luke and Laura Lai are just great
Speaker 4: friends and that's where their relationship started. And even though
Speaker 4: maybe he hadn't responded to the invitation of the wedding,
Speaker 4: he shows up with this grand gesture of not just
Speaker 4: like a.
Speaker 3: Normal looking simple hoopae.
Speaker 4: I mean, he carved much detail into this hoopa, was
Speaker 4: really beautiful hoopa. And I think in that moment you
Speaker 4: realize that Luke's love for Laura Lai is more than
Speaker 4: maybe like the jealousy.
Speaker 1: Or he right possessive.
Speaker 3: He loves her as a person.
Speaker 4: He respects her as a person, and I think in
Speaker 4: that moment you really see that that he's accept what
Speaker 4: Laura La wants to do and he will support her,
Speaker 4: and he will show up with this beautiful hoopa that's
Speaker 4: carved and would have taken him so long to do.
Speaker 4: And I think that's a really beautiful moment where you
Speaker 4: just see that what a great friend, what a great
Speaker 4: relationship they have.
Speaker 2: You know, it really really is, because you know what
Speaker 2: are the percentages of you know, how men respond in
Speaker 2: these situations when the love of their life are the
Speaker 2: people that they idealize as their wife and their entire
Speaker 2: future doesn't choose them in a small town especially, and
Speaker 2: you have to sort of suffer through watching.
Speaker 1: Her become betrothed to somebody else.
Speaker 3: I mean, says a lot about Luke.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, seeing them stand under the hoop is it's
Speaker 2: a very powerful piece of foreshattering for what's to come,
Speaker 2: and it's an image that's iconic in the show. And again,
Speaker 2: here's the Palladino's just putting a stamp on the relationship,
Speaker 2: their stamp of approval almost right, all right?
Speaker 1: Now the road trip. Yeah, so Louray barges.
Speaker 2: Into Rory's room and they packed for a road trip,
Speaker 2: and they're gonna leave five five am. She's not getting married,
Speaker 2: And I just thought Lauren played that beautifully with the hesitation.
Speaker 1: But then no, I'm.
Speaker 2: Not getting married. We're going on a road trip. What
Speaker 2: do you feel about her decision to leave? Was she
Speaker 2: running because she wasn't ready to get married or because
Speaker 2: Max just wasn't the right guy.
Speaker 3: I think maybe a bit of both.
Speaker 4: I think she makes a decision and it's kind of
Speaker 4: shocking to Rory at first, but then Rory accepts it
Speaker 4: and goes with it, and I think she believes deep
Speaker 4: down in her heart that isn't truly the one.
Speaker 3: And I also feel like.
Speaker 4: Because he's not the one, she's it just doesn't feel right.
Speaker 4: She's not ready. Yeah, so I feel like it's a
Speaker 4: bit of both. But I think she just goes with the.
Speaker 3: Decision and it's a beautiful decision to get on the
Speaker 3: road and yes, in some way, you know, run away
Speaker 3: and get away.
Speaker 4: But I think that that helps her to get more
Speaker 4: clarity on her decision of this is not right, it's
Speaker 4: not the right timing, it's not the right person.
Speaker 1: And again, here we are.
Speaker 2: With this image, the shot at the end of the
Speaker 2: show where they're stuck at Taylor's red light in front
Speaker 2: of Luke's. It's almost like Luke Steiner is alive, he
Speaker 2: knows they're coming. It switches red, right, I mean, just remarkable,
Speaker 2: impactful shot.
Speaker 1: It just says so much, just great right.
Speaker 3: Writing.
Speaker 2: It really is thrilling to go back and relive this
Speaker 2: and just sort of see.
Speaker 1: The situations that I was able.
Speaker 2: To be put in by these writers, you know, because
Speaker 2: you're only as good as is what the writing is.
Speaker 2: And what a privilege it was to be a part
Speaker 2: of this and to be in those situations and they Gosh,
Speaker 2: they really set this relationship up beautifully. I don't know
Speaker 2: that any other show has done it like this. I'm
Speaker 2: not a great watcher of television, so I wouldn't know,
Speaker 2: but I'm sure there are some examples.
Speaker 1: But really feel lucky to be a part of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the writing was an acting, and I just find
Speaker 3: that it's timeless, you know, twenty five I'm watching it
Speaker 3: with my daughter, and it's timeless.
Speaker 4: It's like the writing, the care characters. It's going to
Speaker 4: leave on forever and ever and be one of the
Speaker 4: greatest shows ever. And a big part of that is
Speaker 4: the writing and the acting and the characters.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's just amazing, amazing, gift to humanity. So on
Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls, because that Amy and Danielle Okay, my contemporaries
Speaker 2: ran through the list of Gilmore Girls couples. They were
Speaker 2: ranked seventeen out of nineteen. Okay, Max and Laura life
Speaker 2: seventeen out of nineteen couples on the show. What'd you
Speaker 2: think of him as a couple? Would you rank them higher?
Speaker 5: Lower? What?
Speaker 3: I think that's about right? All the relationships right A right.
Speaker 4: I think it was good for when it was and
Speaker 4: I think it really showed Lorli, you know, and and
Speaker 4: everybody watching that, Okay, it's just one step closer to
Speaker 4: her getting with Luke, so.
Speaker 1: Right, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: It's almost as if they well, it was as if
Speaker 2: they used these characters to just enhance the Luke and
Speaker 2: Lorelei vibe. Right, But boy, the detail with which they
Speaker 2: do it and the way they mess with the audience's emotions,
Speaker 2: it's it's just it's such a roller coaster, right.
Speaker 1: But it's a joyful one. So your character, Okay, Summer
Speaker 1: was very flirty with Tristan.
Speaker 3: First day at work, let me tell you, so.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, tell us about that.
Speaker 3: So, actually I was cast in the pilot. I was
Speaker 3: girl number four.
Speaker 1: Oh really Online.
Speaker 4: The costing directors just pulled me back and said, we
Speaker 4: have a role for you for Summer. I remember my
Speaker 4: first day. I'm from Australia, originally I was eighteen years old.
Speaker 4: I'd moved straight off to high school. Was my first job.
Speaker 4: My first day on set was kissing Chad Michael Maray
Speaker 4: and not just like you know, a little kiss, It's
Speaker 4: like major makeout session. And being eighteen year old, you know,
Speaker 4: fresh off the plane from Australia. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: this is pretty uh, this is pretty fun. It was
Speaker 4: a pretty first day at work for me on the guild.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Do you remember walking around stars Hollow when you were
Speaker 2: filming the show.
Speaker 1: What were your impressions.
Speaker 4: I just felt so grateful and I felt and I
Speaker 4: could tell that it was an amazing production and everybody
Speaker 4: was so kind and helpful, and it was very professional,
Speaker 4: and it just felt there was just like something in
Speaker 4: the air. It just felt special and I knew I
Speaker 4: was being part of something that was.
Speaker 3: That was that was going to live on for a while.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: It did feel that way, didn't it. Because they'd gone
Speaker 2: to such lengths and expense in such detail to rebuild
Speaker 2: what was you know, what is Unionville up in Toronto.
Speaker 2: They rebuilt the entire town and you have the entire
Speaker 2: back lot at Warner Brothers and it's huh us with
Speaker 2: this little show on the WB and then the CW
Speaker 2: what so. Yeah, it was quite something, quite a great feeling,
Speaker 2: I mean, talk about feelings supported.
Speaker 1: Can you relate to Summer's character at all?
Speaker 2: Have you ever been in those situations before with a
Speaker 2: boyfriend or guy you were dating?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I can. I definitely.
Speaker 4: At the time, I was very young. I was eighteen,
Speaker 4: and so yeah, I could definitely relate to that. I
Speaker 4: don't necesssarily see myself as like the mean girl or
Speaker 4: like the kind of I feel like she was a
Speaker 4: little she knew that he liked her, and she knew
Speaker 4: kind of play with him and use your power. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I think I've been in similar circumstances.
Speaker 3: But I could relate to it definitely being so young,
Speaker 3: and you know, at the time, I had a boyfriend
Speaker 3: and so being in love and young, and yeah, it
Speaker 3: was definitely a fun experience.
Speaker 1: You can get recognized a lot for being on the show.
Speaker 3: Do you know what I actually do, It's more with
Speaker 3: my kids.
Speaker 4: I have a son and a daughter, and so over
Speaker 4: the years, so many people have come up to me
Speaker 4: and said, I saw you on Gilmore Girls and my
Speaker 4: daughter and I so many people expressed to me that
Speaker 4: it's the show that they watch with their daughter. And
Speaker 4: you know, this day and age, there's not a lot
Speaker 4: of shows you can sit down and watch with your
Speaker 4: kids that's like appropriate that the mother will like and
Speaker 4: the daughter will like. Even my son and my husband
Speaker 4: would watch some episodes with this but it was really
Speaker 4: something special that I share with.
Speaker 3: My daughter, and I have so many women and daughters
Speaker 3: have expressed that to me too, and I'm like, how
Speaker 3: did you recognize me? I was eighteen years old. They're like,
Speaker 3: we just it's pretty sweet.
Speaker 1: What characters do you relate to the most in the show.
Speaker 4: I think I relate to Rory. I think I could
Speaker 4: say that when I was younger filming it. I love
Speaker 4: Laura's character. I mean, I just think she's so fun
Speaker 4: and I hope I'm as fun of a mom as
Speaker 4: she is to my daughter.
Speaker 2: So of all the characters, who would you want to
Speaker 2: be friends with in real life?
Speaker 3: That's a good question.
Speaker 4: Well, I would love to be friends with Laura II,
Speaker 4: but I have a very special connection. I think Babet
Speaker 4: is hilarious.
Speaker 3: Just think that she.
Speaker 4: Is so funny and when you would come on the screen,
Speaker 4: she would just her voice, her lines.
Speaker 3: Love to hang out with her. I think she would
Speaker 3: be really fun.
Speaker 2: She was terrific on set, just so much fun to
Speaker 2: be around, the stories, the songs, just the humor and
Speaker 2: the love and the life coming.
Speaker 1: Out of her as very special.
Speaker 2: All right, So other than Luke, Okay, we've established that
Speaker 2: you like that relationship best.
Speaker 1: Who was your favorite boyfriend of Lorealize?
Speaker 3: Oh? Okay, other than Luke, Other than Luca. I mean
Speaker 3: I think I loved the Christopher.
Speaker 4: I like that because I felt like it was sweet
Speaker 4: that they kind of came together, and even though deep
Speaker 4: down I always wanted her to be with Luke, I
Speaker 4: did like the Christopher dynamic. I thought that that was
Speaker 4: sweet and served its purpose throughout the show, So I
Speaker 4: play that would be my second favorite.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're ready for rapid fire. Here we go, let's
Speaker 2: do it fast in your seatbelt. Pop tarts or pancakes? Oh, pancakes,
Speaker 2: parasital Lane?
Speaker 3: Oh Lane?
Speaker 1: Who talks faster?
Speaker 2: Roy Or Lorelai, Loralai, Chiltern or Yale, Chilton, Paul or
Speaker 2: Winter follow Winter Fallower Winter?
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh okay fall.
Speaker 1: Least favorite character.
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think that's That's a tough question. There's
Speaker 3: no no one. I didn't. I liked everybody.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 2: That's actually an easy, easy answer for most fans. But
Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you Luke's Diner or Friday
Speaker 2: Night dinner.
Speaker 1: Lukes Diner is what you said? Okay? Good?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Team Dean jess Er Logan Dean. Dean why.
Speaker 4: I just always loved their relationship. I just thought it
Speaker 4: was really sweet. I felt like he always treated her
Speaker 4: like the way that she should be treated, and I
Speaker 4: just I just thought it was sweet and innocent.
Speaker 3: He was always my favorite with her.
Speaker 1: He was. He was very sweet with her.
Speaker 2: He's always sweet with her, isn't he. He gets a
Speaker 2: little unhinged too, don't he. But he stands his ground,
Speaker 2: does he. Sometime He might be a little harsh sometimes,
Speaker 2: but he is. He is very doting, isn't he. He really,
Speaker 2: he really loves her.
Speaker 3: He treated her.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow, what do you think You remember that scene where
Speaker 2: Richard when Dean was she brought Dean to Friday night
Speaker 2: dinner and Richard really gave him the once over?
Speaker 1: What'd you think of that? Was that uncomfortable for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I felt bad for him for sure.
Speaker 1: All Right, Well, that's going to wrap it up for
Speaker 1: this episode. Jacqueline.
Speaker 2: It has been a pleasure meeting you and talking to
Speaker 2: you and going through this quite wonderful episode. What'd you
Speaker 2: think of this episode overall compared to the rest of
Speaker 2: the seasons.
Speaker 3: It was a big one.
Speaker 4: I think it was really it was a big moment
Speaker 4: in time as the first time that we all saw
Speaker 4: you know this, Okay, she's not going to get married,
Speaker 4: And I think the bachelor Thrette potty was funny in
Speaker 4: its own way, and having her mother there and then yeah,
Speaker 4: I think it was definitely you know, it begins with
Speaker 4: them tasting all the cakes and that sweet relationship they have,
Speaker 4: that back and forth, and then it ends with them together,
Speaker 4: you know, and it just really is an episode where
Speaker 4: you just really see how close Laura and Rory are there, their.
Speaker 3: Bonds so special, and it's so inspiring.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, big episode Pivotal really puts the wind
Speaker 2: in the sails and the Luke Lorelai thing, but it's
Speaker 2: more importantly the relationship between Rory and Laurlai right because.
Speaker 1: They're there their relationship.
Speaker 2: I think that's really Ultimately what laurla I was deciding
Speaker 2: is like, I have limited time with my daughter and
Speaker 2: that time is so valuable.
Speaker 1: To me, so special to us.
Speaker 2: Why am I sharing it with this man that we're
Speaker 2: not just not clicking on all levels?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: So great decision anyway, Really enjoyed speaking with you. Good
Speaker 2: luck on your world Trek. I wish you the best
Speaker 2: to you you and your family. Say hi to your
Speaker 2: daughter for me, and all the best to you, Jacqueline.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, such an take.
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