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Speaker 1: I Am all in Again. Oh that's you. I Am

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Speaker 1: all in Again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast one

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Speaker 2: eleven productions, iHeartRadio Media, iHeart Podcast Season two, Episode three,

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Speaker 2: Red Light on Wedding Night, Air date October sixteenth, two

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Speaker 2: thousand and one. Have a very very special guest. She

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Speaker 2: played Summer and her name is Jacqueline Michelle. Jacqueline, welcome

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Speaker 2: to the show.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I'm so honored.

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Speaker 1: It's great to have you. Let's jump into this. We

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Speaker 1: got a lot lot to get to here with this episode,

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Speaker 1: a very busy episode.

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Speaker 2: The synopsis is Suki throws a wild bachelorette party for Lourlei,

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Speaker 2: who has a sudden impulse to call Rory's father, Christopher

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Speaker 2: when it comes to a startling realization about her wedding day.

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Speaker 2: All right, so, Jacqueline Max Medina is back and he's

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Speaker 2: he's back with a vengeance and Laura Lai invites him

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Speaker 2: for a sleepover, but he feels weird having a She

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Speaker 2: feels weird having a boy in her bed and has

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Speaker 2: to hide in Rory's for a bit, which was actually

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Speaker 2: really funny.

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Speaker 1: The nature of their relationship on full display.

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Speaker 2: And the next morning they go to Luke's and Mac

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Speaker 2: needs Max needs a moment to browse the menu. So

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Speaker 2: now we're starting to see a little bit of separation

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Speaker 2: Jacqueline was was Max right or wrong to push Flora

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think he has every right to get

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Speaker 4: and so I would imagine if I was Max, I

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Speaker 4: would be feeling similar feelings, like, come on, I'm about

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Speaker 3: You can't even give me the keys to the front

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Speaker 1: Were you? Were you a bit taken to Barrack? What

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Speaker 2: He really lit into her a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 1: What'd you think of that? You think that was a

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Speaker 4: You know, I think maybe he could have expressed it

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Speaker 3: Why does she not want to give me the front

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Speaker 1: Right? But do you think that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was kind kind of coming on Glude

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Speaker 2: Do you think that he was the one that was

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Speaker 4: I mean, maybe a little bit, But I ultimately think

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Speaker 2: Marry, right, because this is maybe his true self was

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Speaker 2: Think Luke was being rude to Max when he breakfast

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Speaker 4: Sweet moment where they're sitting on the stairs and you know,

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Speaker 4: Luke says, you know, and Laura I ask him, do

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Speaker 3: Think it's like a really beautiful moment.

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Speaker 4: And I think Lorala I just realizes that, yeah, Max

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Speaker 4: really beautiful moment that Luke and Laura I share. After

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Speaker 2: That was quite a hippo, wasn't it. I mean the

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Speaker 2: double date, okay, which is very telling. So Dean gives

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Speaker 1: Going to have to get used to.

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Speaker 2: There's tons of stuff you should be aware of, and

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Speaker 2: Max is really, oh yeah, like don't ever use the

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Speaker 2: Max answered the pepperonie, and don't let him get near

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Speaker 4: I think he was just educating him and trying to

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Speaker 4: and just I guess happy wife, a happy life, right right?

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Speaker 1: For that is that is true?

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Speaker 2: And look, this is this is old territory for me

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Speaker 2: Bad for Rory all the way around. Really, and why

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Speaker 2: is Laurlai doing this? Don't you think it relationships appropriate

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Speaker 4: So I think it was just a relationship on the

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Speaker 2: Max seems to be very kind of masterful and loose

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Speaker 1: But when they're together and alone, he gets tight.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I think that's a great observation. That gets tight.

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Speaker 2: Now the traffic light, all right, this was very funny.

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Speaker 2: Taylor being Taylor, Kirk being Kirk, etc.

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Speaker 3: It's like Taylor just trying to express his you know, power.

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Speaker 3: He loves to have the power, and it's like so absurd.

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Speaker 3: They don't need a stop sign and then it's not

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Speaker 4: I don't think the town really cares. And the fact

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Speaker 3: Name of her active She's going to be the first

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great stuff, classic Luke and Taylor, friction, sparks fly and.

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Speaker 1: Just loved working with that man. Miss him dearly.

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Speaker 2: All right, now, let's go to the bachelorette party. Suki

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Speaker 2: Do you remember walking around stars Hollow when you were

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Speaker 1: Can you relate to Summer's character at all?

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Speaker 2: Have you ever been in those situations before with a

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Speaker 2: boyfriend or guy you were dating?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I can. I definitely.

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Speaker 4: At the time, I was very young. I was eighteen,

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Speaker 4: and so yeah, I could definitely relate to that. I

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Speaker 4: don't necesssarily see myself as like the mean girl or

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Speaker 4: like the kind of I feel like she was a

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Speaker 4: little she knew that he liked her, and she knew

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Speaker 4: kind of play with him and use your power. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think I've been in similar circumstances.

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Speaker 3: But I could relate to it definitely being so young,

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Speaker 3: and you know, at the time, I had a boyfriend

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Speaker 3: and so being in love and young, and yeah, it

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Speaker 3: was definitely a fun experience.

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Speaker 1: You can get recognized a lot for being on the show.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I actually do, It's more with

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Speaker 3: my kids.

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Speaker 4: I have a son and a daughter, and so over

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Speaker 4: the years, so many people have come up to me

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Speaker 4: and said, I saw you on Gilmore Girls and my

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Speaker 4: daughter and I so many people expressed to me that

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Speaker 4: it's the show that they watch with their daughter. And

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Speaker 4: you know, this day and age, there's not a lot

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Speaker 4: of shows you can sit down and watch with your

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Speaker 4: kids that's like appropriate that the mother will like and

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Speaker 4: the daughter will like. Even my son and my husband

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Speaker 4: would watch some episodes with this but it was really

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Speaker 4: something special that I share with.

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Speaker 3: My daughter, and I have so many women and daughters

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Speaker 3: have expressed that to me too, and I'm like, how

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Speaker 3: did you recognize me? I was eighteen years old. They're like,

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Speaker 3: we just it's pretty sweet.

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Speaker 1: What characters do you relate to the most in the show.

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Speaker 4: I think I relate to Rory. I think I could

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Speaker 4: say that when I was younger filming it. I love

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Speaker 4: Laura's character. I mean, I just think she's so fun

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Speaker 4: and I hope I'm as fun of a mom as

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Speaker 4: she is to my daughter.

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Speaker 2: So of all the characters, who would you want to

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Speaker 2: be friends with in real life?

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Speaker 3: That's a good question.

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Speaker 4: Well, I would love to be friends with Laura II,

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Speaker 4: but I have a very special connection. I think Babet

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Speaker 4: is hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Just think that she.

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Speaker 4: Is so funny and when you would come on the screen,

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Speaker 4: she would just her voice, her lines.

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Speaker 3: Love to hang out with her. I think she would

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Speaker 3: be really fun.

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Speaker 2: She was terrific on set, just so much fun to

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Speaker 2: be around, the stories, the songs, just the humor and

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Speaker 2: the love and the life coming.

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Speaker 1: Out of her as very special.

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Speaker 2: All right, So other than Luke, Okay, we've established that

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Speaker 2: you like that relationship best.

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Speaker 1: Who was your favorite boyfriend of Lorealize?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Okay, other than Luke, Other than Luca. I mean

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Speaker 3: I think I loved the Christopher.

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Speaker 4: I like that because I felt like it was sweet

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Speaker 4: that they kind of came together, and even though deep

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Speaker 4: down I always wanted her to be with Luke, I

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Speaker 4: did like the Christopher dynamic. I thought that that was

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Speaker 4: sweet and served its purpose throughout the show, So I

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Speaker 4: play that would be my second favorite.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're ready for rapid fire. Here we go, let's

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Speaker 2: do it fast in your seatbelt. Pop tarts or pancakes? Oh, pancakes,

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Speaker 2: parasital Lane?

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Speaker 3: Oh Lane?

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Speaker 1: Who talks faster?

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Speaker 2: Roy Or Lorelai, Loralai, Chiltern or Yale, Chilton, Paul or

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Speaker 2: Winter follow Winter Fallower Winter?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh okay fall.

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Speaker 1: Least favorite character.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think that's That's a tough question. There's

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Speaker 3: no no one. I didn't. I liked everybody.

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 2: That's actually an easy, easy answer for most fans. But

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you Luke's Diner or Friday

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Speaker 2: Night dinner.

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Speaker 1: Lukes Diner is what you said? Okay? Good?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Team Dean jess Er Logan Dean. Dean why.

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Speaker 4: I just always loved their relationship. I just thought it

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Speaker 4: was really sweet. I felt like he always treated her

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Speaker 4: like the way that she should be treated, and I

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Speaker 4: just I just thought it was sweet and innocent.

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Speaker 3: He was always my favorite with her.

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Speaker 1: He was. He was very sweet with her.

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Speaker 2: He's always sweet with her, isn't he. He gets a

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Speaker 2: little unhinged too, don't he. But he stands his ground,

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Speaker 2: does he. Sometime He might be a little harsh sometimes,

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Speaker 2: but he is. He is very doting, isn't he. He really,

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Speaker 2: he really loves her.

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Speaker 3: He treated her.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Wow, what do you think You remember that scene where

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Speaker 2: Richard when Dean was she brought Dean to Friday night

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Speaker 2: dinner and Richard really gave him the once over?

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Speaker 1: What'd you think of that? Was that uncomfortable for you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I felt bad for him for sure.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Well, that's going to wrap it up for

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Speaker 1: this episode. Jacqueline.

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Speaker 2: It has been a pleasure meeting you and talking to

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Speaker 2: you and going through this quite wonderful episode. What'd you

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Speaker 2: think of this episode overall compared to the rest of

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Speaker 2: the seasons.

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Speaker 3: It was a big one.

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Speaker 4: I think it was really it was a big moment

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Speaker 4: in time as the first time that we all saw

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Speaker 4: you know this, Okay, she's not going to get married,

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Speaker 4: And I think the bachelor Thrette potty was funny in

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Speaker 4: its own way, and having her mother there and then yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think it was definitely you know, it begins with

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Speaker 4: them tasting all the cakes and that sweet relationship they have,

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Speaker 4: that back and forth, and then it ends with them together,

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Speaker 4: you know, and it just really is an episode where

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Speaker 4: you just really see how close Laura and Rory are there, their.

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Speaker 3: Bonds so special, and it's so inspiring.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, big episode Pivotal really puts the wind

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Speaker 2: in the sails and the Luke Lorelai thing, but it's

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Speaker 2: more importantly the relationship between Rory and Laurlai right because.

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Speaker 1: They're there their relationship.

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Speaker 2: I think that's really Ultimately what laurla I was deciding

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Speaker 2: is like, I have limited time with my daughter and

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Speaker 2: that time is so valuable.

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Speaker 1: To me, so special to us.

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Speaker 2: Why am I sharing it with this man that we're

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Speaker 2: not just not clicking on all levels?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: So great decision anyway, Really enjoyed speaking with you. Good

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Speaker 2: luck on your world Trek. I wish you the best

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Speaker 2: to you you and your family. Say hi to your

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Speaker 2: daughter for me, and all the best to you, Jacqueline.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, such an take.

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Speaker 5: Care, hey everybody, and up again.

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Speaker 2: Follow us on Instagram at i Am All In podcast

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Speaker 2: and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com