1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Everybody. 2 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,079 Speaker 2: It's Thursday, March thirteenth, twenty twenty five. Welcome to the 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: We're also waiting for Aaron Rodgers. 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 2: It's me and your man, MG Marcus Grand joined by 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 2: Michael Florio and Lakwan Jones. I'm checking my timeline. I 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: haven't missed anything. Right. He still is on a beach 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: wearing a blanket or something right now? 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: Is that what it is? 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: He probably paid for that beach because you got to 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 3: pay for your beaches in Jersey for some oddre reason. 12 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: Wait really, yeah. 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm flabbergast. 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: I'm flabbergasted, like I am speechless, Like what like for 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 2: the beach, Like not for parking at the beach, but 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: like to go on the beach. 17 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: You got to pay. 18 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 4: All the Jersey shore folks know, yes, you are paying 19 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 4: ten bucks twenty bucks depending on where you're going, which beach, 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 4: where you're going. 21 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: That's why Snooky had so much trouble finding it. That 22 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 3: makes more. 23 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: Sense, I am. I am. I am literally flabbergasted, Like 24 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, I've never been to a beach in Jersey. 25 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: I can't imagine. 26 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: It's just I'm gonna be biased here I can't imagine 27 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: as nice as an La beach, Like. 28 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 4: Don't go in the water, I go to the beach 29 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 4: for the standing in the boardwalk into games. 30 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: All right, okay, you. 31 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: Know, I know the bobs are gonna get unhappy with 32 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: me for this. But uh, like, if Draymond Green was 33 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: a free agent, we wouldn't have wall to wall coverage 34 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 3: of where he's gonna sign. So why are we doing 35 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 3: this for Aaron Rodgers? 36 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. I honestly was thinking that same thing 37 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: this morning, like why are we letting this man hold 38 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: us hostage with coverage? Why he is forty one years old, 39 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 2: he is long past his peak and he's just. 40 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: Generally a headache. 41 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: Now, like, why are we letting this man hold us hostage? 42 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: And if I'm a Steelers or a Giants fan, I'm 43 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: even more upset that this man is holding our team's hostage. 44 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson should should ask him to throw hands right now? 45 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yes, like this is ridiculous. That being said, 46 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: I am checking my timeline to see when he inevitably signs, 47 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: because if it happens during the middle of this podcast, 48 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 2: we're gonna have to talk about it. 49 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: There was nineteen quarterbacks who through four hundred or more 50 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: passes last year In like every metric, he ranks sixteen 51 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: through nineteen. I'm like he's and that includes Kirk Cousins 52 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: being in there, Like it's. 53 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: At this point in his career he is mid. 54 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 3: I don't even know if he's mid anymore. 55 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously he's a Hall of Fame career, but 56 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: at this point in his career, he is not that 57 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 2: same dude, Steelers, clean yourselves up. 58 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: You're better than this. 59 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: Like, if he wants to still play, by all means, 60 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 3: still play, and if teams want you that, that's cool, 61 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: but you don't have Like Peter Schrager yesterday was like, 62 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: he's going to wait a month because he knows we'll 63 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: talk about him all month, And I. 64 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: Was like, you know what, He's right, Like, you don't 65 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: have to. You don't have to. We don't have to 66 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: argue about what Stephen A. Smith said about Lebron James. 67 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: We don't have to talk about what Aaron Rodgers is doing. 68 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: We don't. 69 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: We are a free people who can decide what we 70 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 2: talk about. We don't have to, like I said, though, 71 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 2: repeating that being said, all right, we do have a 72 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 2: lot to talk about on the show, though, because free 73 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: agency is still going on, there are signings. We will 74 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: catch you up on the latest fantasy relevant free agent moves. 75 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: Also going to talk about some of the guys that 76 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: are still out there. Against my better judgment, I am 77 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: going to talk about some of the guys who are 78 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: potentially still out there, knowing that the way things happen 79 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: that by the time we finished this show, or by 80 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: the time you listen to this show, some of these 81 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: things could have changed. We'll also dive into some of 82 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: the winners and losers of free agency so far, understanding that, look, 83 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: there's still more guys to sign, there's still the draft. 84 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: Things can change, but you know, we got to feel 85 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: about an hour, so this is what we're gonna do. 86 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: Let's start, though, with some of the latest updates. When 87 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: it comes to player movement around the NFL. The Rams 88 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: apparently unable to it's like a deal to trade Cooper Cup. 89 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: They are going to release him, so he's going to 90 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: be a free agent. So I add one more wide 91 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: receiver to Wells already a very shrinking wide receiver pool. 92 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like we've sort of talked 93 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: about this a little bit, although I guess now that 94 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: potentially he's a free agent. Qu On, I saw you 95 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: mentioned yesterday that you think the Jaguars would be a 96 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: nice fit for Cooper Cup. 97 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely with William Cohen, he knows 98 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 4: his work, man. I mean, they have a vacated spot 99 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 4: for you, a veteran to sit in that slot position. 100 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 4: I mean, I love Parker Washington, but I think Cooper 101 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 4: Cup you can get a lot more out of him, 102 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: and he doesn't have to be the wide receiver one, 103 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 4: So I think it would be a nice plug and fit. 104 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 4: So you have Trevor Lawrence since twenty twenty one, he's 105 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 4: top five and targeted in the slot position. It's obviously 106 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 4: his favorite position to be targeting. You got rid of 107 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 4: two of his most familiar guys in Evan Ingram and 108 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 4: Christian Kirk. It just makes too much sense that you 109 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 4: could put him there in their work. 110 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: Is it going to hurt your heart to have to 111 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: share for Trevor Lawrence? Yes, it will. 112 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: Let's get him on the Patriots. Man May needs someone 113 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 3: to throw the ball, right. Yeah. I really feel like 114 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 3: Drake May and Cooper Cup could be something as well too. 115 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 4: Man like I would love to see that and be 116 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 4: able to root for Drake May and Cooper Cup. 117 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: It does fit a certain Patriot aesthetic too, having Cooper 118 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: Cup there with Drake May throwing him the football. Though 119 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: he's a little too tall Cooper Cup to be a 120 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: prototypical Patriots slot receiver, right, He's he's a little bit 121 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: too too tall for that to happen, you know, so 122 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: we'll see. I mean, but Florial, if you know, wherever 123 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 2: he lands, whoever he's with, is he still a wide 124 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: receiver one? 125 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: Or has he has? That ship sailed on Cooper Cup. 126 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 3: That ship has long sailed And I had hope for 127 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: him last season coming into that that he could Uh. 128 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: I didn't think he would be like, you know, the 129 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 3: Triple Crown winner or anything like that, but I thought 130 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 3: like he could be. It could be one A one 131 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 3: B him and Pooka Nakula and like they would be 132 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 3: very close and Cooper Cup was going a couple of 133 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: rounds later. But that wasn't the case. Like I know, 134 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: Cooper Cup started the year when he came back really hot, 135 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 3: but he faded and faded as the year went on, 136 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: and there was a stretch where it was just really 137 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 3: hard to use him. So I think he is at 138 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 3: this point more of a complimentary piece in real life 139 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 3: and in fantasy. But you know, he's the name Cooper Cup. 140 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 3: People in August are going to see it and they'll 141 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: probably pull him up the board a little bit because 142 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: they'll be like the middle rounds or whatever, and someone 143 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: will be like, Cooper Cup is still here? Give me 144 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 3: that all day. 145 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very interesting. 146 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: The very astute, very very wonderful Arif Hassan can follow 147 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 2: him on social media. He didn't make the point that 148 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: there's been a lot of hubbub over Cooper Cup, a 149 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: guy who has one All Pro season right now, amazing. 150 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: It was an amazing season, right and he ended up 151 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: with a Super Bowl MVP. But really, I mean, you look, 152 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,119 Speaker 2: he's got two one thousand yard seasons in his career. 153 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: He's got two seasons with double digit touchdowns. He's been 154 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: great eight for fantasy. But it does seem like the 155 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 2: hype is a little bit outsized for what statistically he 156 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: has done in his career. I'm not asking you. I'm 157 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: not asking you to do this. I'm not asking you. 158 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: I'm not asking you, that's all. 159 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: I'm just pretty wild he is two one thousand yeard 160 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: seasons and two double digit touchdown seasons and one one 161 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: hundred catch season. But that year he blew all almost 162 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 3: two thousand and sixty like it was the best wide 163 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: receiver class a year of a generation. But besides, that 164 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: means more to us than the numbers. 165 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: Man, I look at he was obviously very good for 166 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: the Rams. 167 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:42,679 Speaker 1: He helped them win a Super Bowl. 168 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I think when you take a 169 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: step back and you sort of look at the entirety 170 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: of his career, that you know, maybe it's not what 171 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: we've hyped it up to be against I'm not asking. 172 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 3: Hall of famer, not an NFL Hall of Famer, Yes, 173 00:07:55,560 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: a start that. Yet, man, he's not an NFL Hall 174 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: He's he thought about this and I'm not going to 175 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 3: say it out loud or accept what you guys are 176 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: saying right now. Means more to us as guy. 177 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely, he's the solely a ring of honor guy. 178 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: If you guys, if the Rams want to retire number 179 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: ten or whatever, have at it. 180 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: No, David Wright means more to me than any baseball 181 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: player ever. The Mets are retiring number five. He's not 182 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer though I can accept that. 183 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I cannot. 184 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: As on the lot in the last two shows, Laquana 185 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 2: has tried to put both Matthew Stafford and Cooper cup 186 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: just no questions asked in the Hall of Fame said personally, yeah, 187 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: but I mean Lakwan was just like, you know, lockdown, solid, 188 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: no discussion about it. 189 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, you didn't like with a Hall of Famer. 190 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: Though, I guess true. I guess that's true. That works. 191 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: Speaking of big time wide receivers, I don't know if 192 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,599 Speaker 2: de Andre hopped you is a Hall of Famer necessarily, 193 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: but he's had a very good career now it appears 194 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: he is. It's the ring chasing portion of that career 195 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 2: was with the Chiefs last year, now is signing with 196 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: the Ravens one year, six million dollars. I mean, Florio 197 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: obviously his best days are sort of behind him. He's yeah, look, 198 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 2: I don't know that he's you know, he's not taking 199 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: a downgrade in quarterbacks going from Patrick Mahomes to Lamar Jackson. 200 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: But realistically, what can we expect out of dere Hopkins 201 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: for Fantasy Now? 202 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 3: This reminds me of like Julio Jones on the Titans 203 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: or the Bucks, or aj Green on the Cardinals. Stuff 204 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: like that, where like a big name, aging wide receiver 205 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 3: is at a point where fans are gonna hope that 206 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: he could get back to what he once was, But 207 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: I think realists know that those days are behind him. 208 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: He's gonna be thirty three at the start of the season. 209 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 3: Last season, he struggled to stand out on a Chiefs 210 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: team that was desperate for a wide receiver to out. 211 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 3: He's had declining metrics the last couple of years, and 212 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: I had some one of my mentions being like, he's 213 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 3: literally a year removed from being a thousand yard receiver, 214 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 3: and it's like, yeah, but it took one hundred and 215 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 3: fifty targets for him to break a thousand yards. He's 216 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 3: not going to get one hundred and fifty targets on 217 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: this Ravens offense. So I even had someone of my 218 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 3: mentions be like, I take him in the sixth, seventh round, 219 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 3: and I think there's going to be hyped there us fantasy. 220 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 3: You know, sikos no are going to be like no. 221 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: But the average fan is going to see DeAndre Hopkins 222 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,359 Speaker 3: teaming up with Lamar Jackson and get very very excited. 223 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 3: But I'd rather say Flowers. I'd rather a Shad Bateman. 224 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 3: I would rather the tight ends. I think he's at 225 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: a point where he's a contributor. He's a leader in 226 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 3: that locker room, and he provides valuable depth because the 227 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: Ravens were very thin at receiver behind their top two. 228 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 3: But I don't think for fantasy he really moves to 229 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: needle much. 230 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: We also have to stop and look, I admit that 231 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: I did this earlier in this very own podcast, but 232 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: we do have to stop the obsession with thousand yard seasons. 233 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: Like we need and we need to bump that up. 234 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: We do over seventeen games. One thousand yards is less 235 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: than sixty yards a game. It's like fifty eight and change. Right, 236 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 2: that's not great, but like it's just not so like, 237 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, we got we gotta raizor experence. I 238 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 2: don't know, call twelve hundred yards? 239 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: Is that fair? 240 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 3: Twelve hundred? Twelve hundred? 241 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 2: Okay, you know, I'm gonna do some quick math because 242 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 2: I'm not greated math. So twelve hundred that's seventy seventy 243 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 2: yards a game. That's a little more. 244 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. 245 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 4: He's not getting that on the Ravens. I mean, the 246 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 4: Ravens don't value wide receivers and I hate that its 247 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 4: sounds that way. I don't know another way to put it, 248 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 4: but they just don't. They're not priority and for fantasy, 249 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 4: like you get lucky with a Flowers with him being 250 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 4: a flex wide receiver three option, and it's like, yeah, 251 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 4: that's great and all, but you add DeAndre Hopkins to 252 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 4: this just definitely does not move the needle at all. 253 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: For me. 254 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 4: I really feel like he's gonna be same, same, but different, 255 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 4: but still the same Raven. It's not gonna be any 256 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 4: different from last season. But Fourio's right, and I feel 257 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 4: like that's why it's our job to sway the consensus 258 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 4: of the fantasy guys out there and girls and just 259 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 4: understand like the name does not you know, should it 260 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 4: should not still sell. You should look at the product 261 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 4: of what it's been in the last couple of years. 262 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 4: Once he signed to the Titans, I said it, I 263 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 4: think it's over, it's done. It's been a great run 264 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 4: for DeAndre Hopkins. 265 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, yes, under the guys that do 266 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 2: no harm. If we're taking our fantasy hippocratic oath. Yes, 267 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 2: we should try to sway the hearts and minds of 268 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: other folks out there, or we could just let them 269 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: draft Dedre Hopkins in the sixth round and we reaped 270 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: the benefits. We can reap the benefits, like you know. 271 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: So it just depends on how petty you feel in 272 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: any given day, how you kind of approached the situation, Lakwan. 273 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: You mentioned Evan Ingram. He has left Jacksonville, he is 274 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: going to Denver, signs a two year, twenty three million 275 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 2: dollar deal with the Denver Broncos. My first response is 276 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: that I was on the network a couple of days 277 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: ago for free Agency Frenzy, and they asked me about 278 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: rookie playmakers or where they'd like to go, and I 279 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: sort of suggested, like, hey, it'd be cool if Tyler Warren, 280 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 2: the star tight end at Penn State, landed in Denver, 281 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: because Sean Payton has been trying to make. 282 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: It happen with the tight end position for a while. 283 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about all the Taysom Hill nonsense, 284 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 2: but sure we could talk about the Taysom Hill nonsense. 285 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 2: But whether it was you know, Juwan Johnson there you 286 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: get to Denver, they try to make it work with 287 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: Greg Dulstich, with Adam Troutman, nothing really happened. I thought 288 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: Tyler Warren would be a really nice addition for bow Knicks. 289 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: Instead it's Evan Ingram. I mean, ol Q he was 290 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: He did have one hundred catches one hundred and fourteen 291 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: catches just a couple seasons ago. I don't expect that 292 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: in Denver. But can he be say a low end 293 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: tight end one with the Broncos some weeks I would 294 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 2: say that all. 295 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. 296 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: It's just more so Sean Payton. Rotation of players, like 297 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: that's what scares the heck out of me. Like even 298 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 3: you saying, like them signing Evan Ingram, I don't know 299 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 3: if that turns them off from the draft because it's like, Okay, 300 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: you got Jervonte Williams, you have Jalen McLain, Like you 301 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 3: have these players, and I don't understand why you're rotating 302 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 3: them and drafting all your estimate. 303 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 4: You have these wide receivers. Marvin Mims. We keep pounding 304 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 4: the table for him to be a consistent starter, but 305 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 4: he's coming off the field for most of the time. 306 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 4: So who's to say this is different? At the tight 307 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 4: end position, and we obviously know Sean Payton is going 308 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 4: to do what Sean Payton wants to do. 309 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: You just you just made me sad at the idea 310 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: of them signing of An Ingram and drafting Tyler Warren 311 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: like that, just you know, because like I felt that way. Look, 312 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: I felt that way about the Raiders drafting brock Bowers. 313 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: We see how that worked out. 314 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: Although you know, Michael Mayer is not a thing anymore 315 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: like I thought. You know, I thought Michael Mayer could 316 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: actually be a really productive tight end. It's not gonna 317 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: happen as long as brock Bowers is breathing. It just 318 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: makes me wonder, what, you know, if they drafted Tyler Warren, 319 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: which isn't if there's a good chance he won't even 320 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: be there when the Broncos are on the clock, what 321 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: that propefully could mean. 322 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: Hopefully he won't be there. 323 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully he goes to a team that will utilize him. 324 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: As the guy they'll actually use him. That's fair, that's fair. 325 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: We'll see how that happens. The Panthers signed Ricodoudele to 326 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 2: a one year deal. Floya, I asked you the other 327 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: day about Javonte Williams going to Dallas and you basically 328 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: said it's rip Rico Dawdell, So obviously the Cowboys decided 329 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: they are moving on. I don't know that I can 330 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: get excited about this, considering what we saw from Cuba Hubbard. 331 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: I also wonder, if you know, if I'm a Dynasty 332 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: player and I have Jonathan Brooks, should I hit. 333 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: The panic button on this right now? 334 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: No? 335 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: I don't think so at all for either one of 336 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 3: those players. I think the Panthers have made it clear 337 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 3: for the last few years now that they want to 338 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: have two running backs there because that's kind of what 339 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: the NFL has been. Unless you have like an absolute 340 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: workhorse running back, you need a good second running back. 341 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 3: And last year they made it pretty clear they thought 342 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: it was going to be Cuba and Brooks, and they 343 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 3: had Miles Sanders there the year prior and last year, 344 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: but Brooks has already come out and said he's not 345 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: playing twenty twenty five, so they needed a one year 346 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: stopgap to kind of be that in insurance for Cuba, 347 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 3: and and Rico Daddle kind of fits that. Like I've 348 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: seen people on Twitter saying, like maybe he he could 349 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 3: be a bigger thorn in the side than any of 350 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 3: the other running backs were last year, but we know 351 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: how it played out. I'm much less worried about Rico 352 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: stealing the job that I was Brooks, so I actually 353 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: feel good about Cuba Hubbard heading into next year. And 354 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 3: one interesting angle from this is Rico signed for the 355 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 3: same amount of money as Javonte Williams. So the Cowboys 356 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 3: just straight up picked Javonte over Rico, who they knew, 357 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: who they had in the building, who just had a 358 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 3: thousand yards for them. So that is always very telling 359 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: of a player. But my takeaway from it was kind 360 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: of like Javante is a better pass catcher. Maybe they're 361 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 3: the Cowboys. I think they're gearing up to draft a 362 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 3: running back early in the draft this year and make 363 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 3: Javonte kind of the complimentary piece. 364 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: Are you trying to get me back in on Javonte 365 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: Williams to that, which, no, right. 366 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 3: He could be he they I think they think there's 367 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: more upside there, but they're probably drafting a running back. 368 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I guess it's that's true. Let's 369 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: see what happens if they because they draft Ashton gent 370 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 2: then you know, all bets are off. 371 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 3: If they don't, though, then MG, I fully expect you 372 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: to be back in. Quietly, he won't publicly say it, 373 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 3: but he will have a lot. Okay, look at it. 374 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: If I'm back in at some point, I'll put it 375 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: out here on this show. Like you know, I just like, 376 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 2: I just need some time with my thoughts. I need 377 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: some alone time. 378 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 3: You look at MG's teams at the end of August, 379 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 3: you're like, hell, you have Javonte Williams on every team. 380 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: You got a lot of you know, like you looking 381 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: at my underdog, you know, roster personages is like, wow, 382 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 2: I got Javonte Williams on like eighty percent. Like that's 383 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 2: happen again. A few other signings to run through. I'll 384 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: just list these all. You guys can tell me if 385 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: there's any of these that sort of gets you excited 386 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 2: at all. This one just hitting just a few minutes ago, 387 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 2: where he Moster signs with the Raiders. Mike Williams is 388 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: going back to the Charger, so he's back in Los Angeles. 389 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: Kenneth Gainwell signs a one year deal with the Seattle 390 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 2: Seahawks in v or with the Steelers. I should say 391 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: Gay Gainwell goes to the Steelers MVS. Marcus Valdez Scantling 392 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: is going to the Seahawks on a one year deal. 393 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 2: Van Jefferson, I will admit I was once a Van 394 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 2: stand Those days are behind me. But he is signing 395 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 2: a one year deal with the Titans. Trent Sherfield gets 396 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: a two year contract with the Denver Broncos. Jalen Rager, 397 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 2: who will forever be tied to Justin Jefferson in NFL 398 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 2: draft history, agreed the terms with a on a contract 399 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: with the Chargers. Nick Westbrook A Keene goes to the 400 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins. Joey Bosa making it in here in this 401 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 2: list mostly because he went to the Bills. And I'm 402 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: sure if Florida you're the one who put this here 403 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: in the rundown I did not, all right, And Mason Rudolph, look, 404 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 2: I don't have full control over Sometimes I walk away 405 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 2: and things show up in the rundowning. 406 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. 407 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph is coming back to Pittsburgh two year deal 408 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 2: for eight million dollars. So Florio, aside from the Joey 409 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 2: Bosa going to the Bills, anything here that moves the 410 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 2: needle for. 411 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: You one and not in the way you would expect. 412 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 3: I'm happy to see Kenneth Gainwell end up on the 413 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 3: Steelers because this was a really interesting week for Jalen 414 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 3: Warren because the Steelers choose to tender him and keep 415 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 3: him there, but they let Najie Harris walk and they 416 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 3: didn't bring in another significant running back like Kenneth Gainwell 417 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 3: is what he is at this point. He's a quality backup, 418 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 3: but he has to still survive the draft, which is 419 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 3: the hardest, biggest hurdle for incumbent running backs this year. 420 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 3: But Jalen Warren right now, his stock is definitely shooting 421 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 3: up after free agency. 422 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, no, I'm with you because when I first 423 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 2: sawt I was kind of like, oh no, and then 424 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 2: I was like, well maybe not, you know, like maybe 425 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: it's just sort of a stop gap sort of measure 426 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: here for the Steelers, and then maybe's still the Jalen 427 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: Warren show anything among that group for you, Lakwan, that 428 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: was of note. 429 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 4: I'm happy for Van Jefferson because I was a Van 430 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 4: stand but that's for real life football, but for fantasy 431 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 4: I think you can look ever he moistered as like Okay, 432 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 4: you know, like I feel like he thinks he still 433 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 4: has someone to tank, but the Raiders are most likely 434 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 4: going to be like a run first offense. So if 435 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 4: he gets some touches, I'll take a late round stash 436 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 4: start on him. Man, just just being a fan of 437 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 4: what he's done. You know, these last couple of seasons 438 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 4: in Miami, I mean, Raheem must. 439 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 3: Start was a thing. So I do want a quality back. 440 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 3: If he's healthy this season and he gets on a 441 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: run first offense, he gets some opportunity. 442 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: Hey why not? 443 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think the Reheem must start days 444 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 2: are probably done. 445 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: But again, all of. 446 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 2: This is pending what else happens between now and say 447 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 2: the start of training camp. I don't see why he 448 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 2: wouldn't get touches over some mere whites. Or is Alexander 449 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: Madison going to come back? 450 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: Alexander Madison. 451 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 2: Alexander Madison, I don't know if he's coming back. You know, 452 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 2: we had we had a great couple of weeks with 453 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 2: Sincere McCormick. I mean that was fun, like two weeks. 454 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 2: So he got so, I mean at least right now 455 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 2: where he moster looks like the number one back on 456 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: this roster, and then we'll see what the Raiders sort 457 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: of decide to do still a lot of guys hanging 458 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 2: out there, a lot of notable guys hanging out there. 459 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 2: Decided to comb through Greg Rosenthal's list of the top 460 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 2: one hundred and one free agents, talk about the guys 461 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: that are still available, and hopefully they're still available by 462 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 2: the time you guys listen to this podcast, So this 463 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: is all still relevant to take a break, talk about 464 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: that coming up. 465 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: Next on the NFL Fantasy Football Show. 466 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 2: So of all the work that we do around here 467 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: around free agency, maybe the most valuable piece of content 468 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: that comes out every year is Greg Rosenthal's list of 469 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: the top one hundred and one free agents. You can 470 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: find that on NFL dot com. He lists to them 471 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 2: at the start of the free agency period and it 472 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: is updated as guys sign. So decided now that we 473 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: are a couple of days into this and we've had 474 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: a lot of movement, to go back through his top 475 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: one hundred and one free agents and talk about the 476 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: guys that are still available that are going to be 477 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: fantasy relevant. 478 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: There have been some changes. 479 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: I mean, there were three guys that were on the 480 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: list yesterday when I built this rundown that I got 481 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: taken off the list because they signed between then and now, 482 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: but still a handful of guys of note here, so 483 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: I want to go through some of them. At number 484 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 2: eleven on Greg's list is Amari Cooper, and I want 485 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: to ask you about in Florida because he was with 486 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 2: the Bills last year. It was not a great tenure, 487 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 2: although you know, there's some talk that maybe he was 488 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 2: not one hundred percent healthy. But the history of Amari Cooper, 489 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: both in real football and fantasy football, has been sort 490 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 2: of a boom or bust on, one year off, one 491 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 2: year sort of guy. Obviously, he is on the wrong 492 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 2: side of thirty at this point. He's going to be 493 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 2: thirty one in June. Don't know where he lands. I 494 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: don't know if you have a good landing spot for him, 495 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: but it does feel like the days of Amari Cooper 496 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: has more than say a third wide receiver in fantasy 497 00:22:58,600 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 2: are probably over. 498 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that, and I wouldn't be surprised 499 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 3: if he wasn't fully healthy during his I know he 500 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 3: did have a he was dealing with, like a hand 501 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 3: issue that actually caused him to miss some time, but 502 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 3: the usage was really weird throughout the playoffs and everything. 503 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 3: I think the days are gone of him being a 504 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 3: true dominant like ex wide receiver number one in the NFL. 505 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 3: But I still think he's got some good ball left 506 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 3: in him. I think he could be a field stretcher 507 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: if nothing else, and a veteran leader, a name that 508 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 3: still demands defensive attention because that's what he did more 509 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 3: than anything for the Bills last year. So I've since 510 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 3: the start before free agency, I've been like, just put 511 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 3: him on the Patriots like they and I know it's 512 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 3: but like they have a good young quarterback a ton 513 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 3: of money, and they really need playmakers around him. The 514 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 3: only reason I could see Amari Cooper being unsigned at 515 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 3: this point is because he's probably asking for more money 516 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 3: than teams. Well, it's not like no team wants to 517 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 3: sign him, it's just probably coming to a financial number 518 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 3: that makes sense for both sides. 519 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 2: I'm imagining now the Patriots like a scalper outside of 520 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: a sporting event, like, Hey, anybody want a contract? Any 521 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: wide receivers looking for a contract, contracts contract, need a contract, 522 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: and so far no takers. 523 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 5: They almost got Chris Godwin, at least Collins. They almost 524 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 5: got Chris Godwin. If you believe the stories there. I mean, 525 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 5: I don't know if top of your head look on 526 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 5: if you have a good fit for a Mari Cooper, 527 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 5: like I'm scrolling and I don't. 528 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: I don't immediately see for him anywhere. 529 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 4: Set him back to Dallas, send him back to Dallas. 530 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 4: Man him and CD can run it up again and 531 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 4: see what happens. I mean, I just feel like it 532 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 4: is the asking price. He probably wants more than ten, 533 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 4: and we just signed to to at Well for ten. 534 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 4: I don't know if we're gonna get in that ball 535 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 4: range of Amri Cooper right now, who's just been decreasing 536 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 4: in multiple wide receiver categories that matter to show that 537 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 4: he could be productive. So it's like one of those 538 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 4: things that it goes back to Dallas. He could still 539 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 4: be somewhat of a help as a name that you 540 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 4: have to watch on defense, and he knows somewhat of 541 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 4: what they kind of wanted to do over there Dak. 542 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 4: I think he could support. I think, you know, CD 543 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 4: and him could really get it going. But overall, I 544 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 4: don't see a right fit for him, like nail on 545 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 4: the head, like he needs to go there right now. 546 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess that's possible. I just wonder 547 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: if they would do that after they've already moved on 548 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 2: from Brandon Cook's. Like it just, you know, like I 549 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: don't know if they would want to. Yeah, I don't know, 550 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: you know, I just I just don't see an easy answer. 551 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 2: I just don't see an easy answer for Amari Cooper, 552 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: And maybe it is money. They just don't seem to 553 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 2: be a lot of obvious fits for him at this point. 554 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs at number twenty seven, who missed a good 555 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: chunk of the season after an injury early on in 556 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 2: the year, now Florida. Rosenthal's suggestion was, maybe Diggs just 557 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: goes back to Houston for another year and they try 558 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 2: to run it back with that group, especially they're trying 559 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 2: to figure out what someone want to thank l But 560 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: he does seem like sort of like another one that 561 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: really has a no obvious fit. Oh, I think you 562 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 2: mentioned did you mention Dallas was one? If you mentioned 563 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 2: Dallas the other day, that's where I. 564 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 3: Want him to go. Yeah, team up with his brothers, 565 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 3: rehab knee injuries together, exactly the number two for CD. 566 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 3: I don't think Diggs is a number one anymore. I 567 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 3: think he's a number two, and I think he can 568 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: win quickly on like short to intermediate routes. He was 569 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 3: already losing his downfield speed his final year as a Bill. 570 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 3: Now he's two years or moves from that and a 571 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 3: knee injury. Like, I still think he could play, but 572 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 3: I think he has to have like kind of a 573 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 3: very defined role and opposite of CD lamb life is 574 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 3: is a lot easier than opposite of a lot of 575 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 3: other wide receivers. So I think that's the spot where 576 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 3: he could go and still succeed. 577 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: That is very true. That is very very true. 578 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think I think Diggs will find 579 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 2: a home. You know, it's just a matter of where 580 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: he fits in. I just wonder if, at this point 581 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: in his career, if maybe he's gonna sort of, yeah, 582 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: tone down the diva thing a little bit, just so 583 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 2: we can stick somewhere. 584 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: I know, look, I. 585 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 3: Can't quit it or something like that. 586 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: Now, that was the rumor that he was dating Cardi B. 587 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 3: You think his ego is gonna get smaller? 588 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: Good point, very good point. 589 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 2: Number fifty three on Rosenthal's list is Jameis Winston lakwan 590 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 2: hear me out on this What if we send Jameis 591 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: Winston to Pittsburgh. 592 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: Yes, I love it. I love it. Pittsburgh fans will 593 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: not love that. But for fantasy purposes, you need somebody 594 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 3: that's going to be able to handle someone and make 595 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 3: the good spirits in that locker room with the crash bros. 596 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 3: And he he's going to chuck it up to both 597 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 3: of them and they're gonna enjoy it. 598 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: That's the part I like is that he's stand back. 599 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: You got two guys who can stretch the field. You 600 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 2: want a quarterback who's just gonna throw that yolo ball 601 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 2: and have a short goal old fish memory if things 602 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 2: go bad, Yeah, if that's Jamis, that's Jamus to me. 603 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 3: And then I have two strong personalities in his face 604 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 3: raging red, he's gonna sit there, We're to smile, like, all. 605 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 4: Right, brothers, let's get this going, let's get this together. 606 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: Anything, they're gonna rage and be upset, and then Jamis 607 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 2: will say something that's so cosmic and bonkers they'll be 608 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 2: just like what. 609 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: And then here's the whole situation. 610 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 3: I love that he's the highest ranked quarterback on this 611 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 3: still on this list, but there's like zero percent chance 612 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 3: he gets a starting job. 613 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the thing. 614 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 2: Like, I just don't I don't see him going going 615 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 2: towhere to your starting job. 616 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. 617 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: Maybe depending on what Aaron Rodgers does, Yeah. 618 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: Maybe he ends up going to the other spot. 619 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 2: Right, If Rogers goes to Pittsburgh, then Jamis goes to 620 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 2: the Giants or vice versa, Like maybe that's a possibility. 621 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 3: I've kind of thought it's like Russ is in that pisode, 622 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 3: like whatever Rogers goes, Russ goes to the other one 623 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 3: is but who knows. 624 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 2: Possible, which is a perfect transition because Russ is at 625 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: number fifty six, just a couple spots behind Jamis on 626 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: Rosenthal's list. I mean, Floyo, I've been saying that Russ 627 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: going back to Pittsburgh makes the most sense. It seems 628 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: like the Steelers have just sort of decided that they 629 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: have moved on from Russell Wilson. If that's the case, 630 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 2: I just don't know where it is. I mean, the 631 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: Giants seem to be the only other real option out there, 632 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: and I. 633 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: Just don't think he's a fit with the Giants. 634 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm becoming more and more convinced that the 635 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 3: Giants are going to be in the quarterback market come 636 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 3: this draft class if they can get one of the 637 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 3: top two. So at that point, what is Russ coming 638 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 3: in to start for a handful of games and then 639 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 3: kind of transition out. So I think he's really hoping 640 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 3: Rogers picks the Giants and he could go back to Pittsburgh. 641 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 3: Because I agree with you, Marcus. Not only do I 642 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 3: think there's a legit debate over which one of those 643 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 3: two quarterbacks are better at this point in their career. 644 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 3: I don't in my opinion, it's not a question of 645 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 3: which one is a better f for that team. Because 646 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson has played with DK Metcalf, he has played 647 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 3: with George Pickens. He can throw those moonballs down field, 648 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 3: like you were talking about. Both of these guys are 649 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 3: deep ball specialists. Aaron Rodgers. Last year, I believe of 650 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 3: quarterbacks who through fourteen four hundred or passes or more 651 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 3: had the lowest air yards per target. I'm double checking 652 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 3: that real quick. But like, oh he was eighteenth of 653 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 3: the nineteenth sorry, So like he's not airing the ball 654 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 3: out hes all quick slants and stuff, So like it 655 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 3: doesn't fit that skill set. Of the receivers that you 656 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 3: have and one that you just paid a whole bunch 657 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,239 Speaker 3: of money. So I don't really get it. 658 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't. I don't understand. It's just it. 659 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: I guess I feel differently if they were roster building differently, 660 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: but they have built a roster that seems more suited 661 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 2: to what Russell Wilson does. 662 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: But they don't want Russ. 663 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 4: So I don't really understand my dark horse and all 664 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 4: this is probably the Titans. They need a quarterback, and 665 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 4: we're not hearing much about them taking one off the 666 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 4: board at the number one spot, like we've heard that 667 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 4: they're they're open to move they're open for Carter the 668 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 4: defensive player, and they're open to move down. So it's 669 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 4: like we're not hearing like they're in the race for 670 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 4: a quarterback right now, like of a Kirk Cousins or 671 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 4: Russell Wilson or even Aaron Rodgers. I think, you know, Russell, 672 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 4: that moonball to Calvin Ridley. That's all that Will Levis 673 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 4: and Colm Ridley were able to actually produce and connect on. 674 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 4: So if Russell wants to be like a starter and 675 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 4: not have as much pressure as the New York pressure 676 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 4: or even with DK Metcalf or George Pokin. 677 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 3: Just chill out Tennessee Brown the moon Ball to Calm 678 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 3: Ridley and just hang out. Like I really feel like 679 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 3: it will be a chill metal spot. 680 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 2: Do you want to If you want to be left 681 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: to your own devices and you just play football, Tennessee 682 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: is the spot for you. 683 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 684 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 3: I have been operating like they have kim Ward already. 685 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 3: I could be wrong, but I think they're not being 686 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 3: in the market at all for a quarterbacks because they 687 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 3: already know who their quarterback is going to be. 688 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 2: Maybe as a now, looking at the depth chart on 689 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 2: our lads, Will Levis is the only quarterback on the roster. 690 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 691 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: That cannot that cannot stand it, just can't you know, 692 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. 693 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: I mean I've seen a lot of Abdua Carter mock 694 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: to the Titans at one. It could also be Look, 695 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 2: I mean, depending on what you want to do, knowing 696 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 2: that there are some quarterback needy teams behind you, you 697 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: trade down a couple of spots. Maybe you trade down 698 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: with the Giants and you still get your if you 699 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 2: really want Carter trade down with the Giants they take 700 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: a quarterback at one. The Browns take a quarterback at two, 701 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: you still get Carter at three. 702 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 3: And then Travis Hunter to the Patriots. I like that scenario. 703 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,719 Speaker 1: We got it all worked out. We have it all 704 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: worked out. Number sixty three on the list. 705 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 3: JK. 706 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: Dobbins coming off of a career year, a career year 707 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: when I think most of us were just hoping, hey, 708 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 2: maybe he can just stay healthy and bet a little 709 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 2: bit productive. Instead, he really was the focal point of 710 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: the Chargers running game. Chargers, of course bring in Najee 711 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: Harris that lakwans Andy suggests that they are not going 712 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 2: to be back in on JK. Dobbins again for this year. 713 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess anything's possible, but it seems really, 714 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 2: really unlikely. It seems hard for me to find an 715 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 2: easy landing spot for Dobbins right now, just because the 716 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 2: running back class in this draft is so deep, Like 717 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 2: it feels like at this point, Yeah, if he doesn't 718 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 2: find a spot in the next day or two that 719 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 2: Dobbins might have to wait till after the draft. 720 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: Before anybody really comes calling. 721 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's definitely a possibility. But I got him pegged 722 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 4: to the Bengals. I think that would be great fit 723 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 4: for him because they're looking for fish and runner, a 724 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 4: hard runner like them going to trade out for Klill 725 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 4: Herbert was very telling of what they honestly think about 726 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 4: Chase Brown. And it's not like a huge knock to 727 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 4: Chase Brown in his ability ways able to do because 728 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 4: he cleaned up that back of the season as like 729 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 4: an RB one. But it's more so the longevity of 730 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 4: this backfield than how the direction of this league is going. 731 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,919 Speaker 4: It's going one two punch and they want a guy 732 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 4: that's gonna be like, we could just run him for 733 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 4: let's say, you know, twenty touches and then Brown they 734 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 4: split that up. I really feel as though JK Dowm 735 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 4: still has something in the tank. Thirteen games, nine hundred yards. Man, 736 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 4: if he would have had a full season, we'll be 737 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 4: talking about JK would damn there eleven hundred and twelve 738 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 4: hundred yards and a couple more touchdowns. But I feel 739 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 4: like that one two punch that could definitely work and 740 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 4: the Bengals, it depends on how the draft falls with 741 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 4: some of these deep running backs in this class. Might 742 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 4: have to wait and you know, and see what happens. 743 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, from a fan standpoint, you're 744 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 2: sitting an Ohio state guy back to the State of Ohio, 745 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 2: which you know, whatever it's worth is something notable for sure. 746 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 4: Sign him. 747 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 3: I find a I don't see where JK goes and 748 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 3: he gains fantasy value, Like, yeah, I think last year 749 00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 3: is going to be his career year. 750 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was kind of that was gonna be my 751 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: question to you, Like, it feels like what we saw 752 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 2: last year is sort of the ceiling for JK. 753 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: Dobbins. 754 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 3: Everything broke right for him, like he for the most part, 755 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 3: stayed healthy, even though he did miss some time. There 756 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 3: was literally no running back in that room that they 757 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 3: felt could compete with him, Like Gus Edwards was dust. 758 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 3: They didn't really trust him on Evendell, and then he 759 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 3: was on an offense where he knew the system very 760 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 3: well because he played with the OC before and they 761 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 3: were very run heavy. I just I really this morning 762 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 3: was trying to think about like where he could end 763 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 3: up and I'd feel better about him, and I'm like, 764 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 3: there's literally not a spot I could think of. 765 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm just again, I'm sort of looking 766 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 2: and just trying to game it out, and I'm with you, like, 767 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 2: I just don't see a spot where he goes, because 768 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 2: at this point, I think wherever he goes, at best 769 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 2: he's in a timeshare with somebody else, he's going to 770 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 2: hurt somebody's fantasy value. 771 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, that's kind of the reality. 772 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm like so looking last year had 773 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety five carries understanding that you know, 774 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 2: he was brought in to sort of split with Gus Edwards. 775 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: He missed four games with injury. 776 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: You know, I think I think one hundred and fifty 777 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty carries probably the ceiling for him at 778 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 2: this point, depending on where he goes, you know, and 779 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 2: he's gonna have to split time. 780 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: With with whoever it is. 781 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I know, we're seeing teams pay more and more 782 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 3: running backs, and good for them, but like, this is 783 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 3: the worst scenario for Dobbins because he's not one of 784 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 3: the elite running backs and it's a very deep running 785 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 3: back class. So like you could be like, do I 786 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 3: want to pay this this guy who's missed a lot 787 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 3: of time big money, or do I just draft a 788 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 3: running back in the fourth round? 789 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: Right? 790 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 2: I know, again, that's that's what I'm saying, Like, if 791 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 2: it doesn't happen the next day or two. 792 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: Like, I just don't know that JK. 793 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 2: Dobbins gets a call until after the draft, and seems 794 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 2: are sort of looking at their running back rooms and 795 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 2: trying to figure out where. 796 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: To fill in the gaps. 797 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 2: Elijah More number eighty on the list, I mean, Florida. 798 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say about Elijah Moore anymore. 799 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 2: You know, it didn't happen with the Jets, didn't really 800 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 2: happen with the Browns. You know. Again, He's another one 801 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 2: who I think at this point is probably gonna just 802 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 2: sit out on the open market for a while. And 803 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 2: I don't know that he's gonna be anything more. 804 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,919 Speaker 1: Like I don't know that he has fantasy relevance really 805 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: at this point, does he. 806 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 3: I mean, he struggled to find that really last year 807 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,919 Speaker 3: on a Brown team that was kind of until Jerry 808 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 3: Judy's breakout with Jameis Winston, like they were searching for 809 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 3: production at receiver. And I don't know, We've seen four 810 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 3: years of Elijah Moore, his nine career touchdowns, He's never 811 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 3: reached seven hundred yards. At some point, you just got 812 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 3: to say, this is who that guy is, Like an 813 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 3: NFL contributor for sure, like he belongs on a fifty 814 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 3: three man roster but doesn't belong on a twelve team 815 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 3: fantasy football I do have one, Like Greg Rosenthal is 816 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 3: so much smarter than me, But I do not understand 817 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 3: in what world Elijah Moore. 818 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 2: Is ranked higher than the next wide receiver. Yeah, I 819 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 2: don't get No, I'm I'm with you on that too. 820 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 2: I am absolutely with you on that one. And maybe 821 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 2: one day we can ask Greg about it too. He 822 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 2: can give us, you know, his his rationale for it 823 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 2: is age. 824 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 3: The reason i'bout to say he's twenty four. I mean 825 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 3: that probably makes a little sense there, I guess yo. 826 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: I will say I remember for at least a week 827 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 2: or two in twenty twenty three getting sucked into everyone. 828 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 2: Joe Flakout took over as a quarterback at Browns and 829 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 2: he's like talking up Elijah Moore and how they played 830 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 2: together with the chests and like he was hyping him up, 831 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 2: and like I did sort of buy into that for 832 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 2: like a couple of weeks, and then like after two 833 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 2: weeks as a parent that like, no, it's this is 834 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 2: like I think I feel like after that happened, Moore's 835 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 2: snap percentage went. 836 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: Down like in back to back weeks. 837 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 2: It's like, okay, this is obviously not at this point, 838 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 2: all right, enough with the suspense, Elijah Moore is at 839 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 2: number eighty the guy a number eighty three. He is 840 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,919 Speaker 2: Keenan Allen. Now Lakwan. Granted it was not the best 841 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 2: season for Allen last year. The Bears offense did not 842 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 2: turned out to be as explosive as we hoped it 843 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 2: would be. Allen with seventy catches seven hundred and forty 844 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 2: four yards. He didn't have seven touchdowns, so that was 845 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 2: not a terrible number for him. You know, he's thirty 846 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 2: two years old. He's going to be thirty three coming 847 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 2: up at the end of April. And I think it's 848 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 2: Florio's point. You know, look, he's not what he was. 849 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 2: He can definitely still be a big contributor for a 850 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 2: real NFL team. How much of a contributor can he 851 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 2: be for a fantasy team? 852 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 4: Though it's a gamble, and it's more so the landing 853 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 4: spot if anybody has interest. I mean the Seahawks, they 854 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 4: have open doors for wide receiver weapons and name you know, 855 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,439 Speaker 4: threatening for defenses. I think him and JSN could probably work. 856 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 4: I mean the Bears. I honestly think you give it 857 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 4: a shot with Ben Johnson. I think Ben Johnson would 858 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 4: love to have Kenan Allen, you know, work that slot, 859 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 4: that work worked the middle of the field and kind 860 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 4: of like try to mirror with the Lion's offense ask 861 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 4: or bring him to La to the Rams. I really 862 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 4: feel as though you have to worry about that. 863 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 3: How many receivers do you need? All we need to 864 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 3: get back baby. But no, if Keenan Allen, if he 865 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 3: if he has. 866 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 4: Anything that you know has to offer for fantasy, it's 867 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 4: probably like a wide receiver three flex, you know, like 868 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 4: it's one of those things that you won't be taking 869 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 4: them off the board with high expectations as he's your 870 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 4: wide receiver one or like your wide receiver two that 871 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 4: can get tribute every single week. It's really going to 872 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,959 Speaker 4: come down to who's the quarterback throwing him the ball 873 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 4: and what the system and play call is going to 874 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 4: look like for him. Because he can still get open, 875 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 4: he could still be a reliable wide receiver catch the ball, 876 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 4: play outside as well. It's more so what does the 877 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,760 Speaker 4: environment look for him to actually produce for fantasy. 878 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 2: Keenan Allen feels like one of those guys where, like 879 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 2: you know, the Sharps, the early drafters are probably going 880 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 2: to avoid him for the most part, but he'll be 881 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 2: that guy that in the middle to late part of drafts, 882 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 2: when you get more of the you know, more of 883 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 2: gen pop drafting, they're looking to be. Oh, Keenan Allen, 884 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 2: you know, I know that guy. I remember that guy. 885 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 2: He's been good for me for a while. Like he'll 886 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 2: he'll get pulled his ADP will get pulled up when 887 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 2: we get to like August. Because a lot of people 888 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 2: you know who, yeah whatever, they have lives. Shout out 889 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 2: to them who are doing this oh year long. Uh, 890 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 2: you know, they don't necessarily are paying attention to him, 891 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 2: maybe being in decline or being uh a little bit 892 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:33,240 Speaker 2: older in his career. 893 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 1: They will draft him because of that. But a lot 894 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: of us. 895 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 3: It's worth noting though, that his situation was a huge decline. 896 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 3: I mean, going from justin Herbert to you know what 897 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 3: behind the ears Kayla Williams without no line and a 898 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 3: terrible play calling system. So it's like true, it wasn't 899 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 3: exactly only him, you know, Yeah, no, for sure, I 900 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 3: want him in Carolina, because I think he could be 901 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 3: better than that, Like he needs a lot of volume. 902 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 3: But we've seen Adam Feeling each of the last couple 903 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 3: of years put up like six week stretches where he's 904 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 3: a wide receiver. One Keenan Allen could could still do that. Like, 905 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 3: so Bryce Young needs some help. 906 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 2: In my head, like my first thought was, hey, you 907 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 2: can go to Carolina, And then it was like, are 908 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 2: we gonna do that again? Are we gonna send another 909 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 2: aging veteran to Bryce Young to like you know. 910 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 3: It worked with Deonta until it didn't. 911 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: It worked for for what like. 912 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 2: Three weeks, Like it didn't last very long with Deontay Johnson. Right, 913 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 2: It's like it's like you have, like, you know, two 914 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 2: friends and like they're the only people you know who 915 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,839 Speaker 2: like anime, and you're like, hey, we should match them 916 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 2: up and have them go out on a date, like right, 917 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 2: Like they may have nothing else in common, but they 918 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 2: both like anime. So like it's just like hey, man, 919 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 2: like here's a veteran receiver who's like a free agent, 920 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 2: Like we should send him to Carolina and let him 921 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 2: work with Bryce Young. 922 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, let's give Bryce something. And I like Keenan Allen. 923 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 2: But let's let's let Bryce Young have a guy he 924 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 2: could grow with instead of some handholder. 925 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 3: Look, I think you draft a receiver and you bring 926 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 3: Keenan in to be like the veterans slot guy that 927 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 3: the security blanket. Like, yeah, I do want to point 928 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 3: out those I'm not letting this go. 929 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 5: Uh. 930 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 3: Keenan Allen had more yards last year than any season 931 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 3: of Elijah Moore's career, and he had two fewer touchdowns 932 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,280 Speaker 3: last season alone than Elijah Moore's had in his career. 933 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 2: I'm guessing it's an age thing. That's all it has 934 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 2: to be. It's got to be an age thing. 935 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: That's all. 936 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 2: Number one on one on the top one hundred and 937 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 2: one free agents for Greg Rosenthal is Nick Chubb. 938 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna throw this out to both you. 939 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I know we all would like from a 940 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,720 Speaker 2: football standpoint to see Nick Chubb be successful after having 941 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 2: a couple of really serious injuries. But are either one 942 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 2: of you drafting Nick Chubb regardless of where he goes 943 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 2: this year? 944 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 4: Absolutely not. 945 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: I was out last year, like damn, now it's over. 946 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 3: I do think he should re signed with the brown 947 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 3: sill like he's one of those players that should get 948 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 3: to go out with the team that he's been so 949 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 3: loyal to his whole career. Like, I don't want to 950 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 3: see him throw on another jersey and struggle, and then 951 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 3: like ten years from now, we're like, remember what Nick 952 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 3: Chubb was a Patriot or something. 953 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,760 Speaker 2: Like that, we start doing those like weird jerseys things 954 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 2: like on social media, like posting up like yeah. 955 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 3: Like Maddy Ramirez on the Rays and then Nick Chubb 956 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 3: on like. 957 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: Keim Elijah Wan with the Raptors, Like what what is this? 958 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:27,919 Speaker 1: Yeah on the Jaguars. Yeah, I mean look Tory Hole 959 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: on the Jaguarks. 960 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,359 Speaker 2: I mean, Jerry Rice in a Broncos uniform just will 961 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 2: never sit right with me. 962 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, they'll do it. 963 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. 964 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:39,479 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that part. 965 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 2: But on the one hand, like, wouldn't it be cool 966 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 2: to see Nick Chubb go somewhere and like be with 967 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 2: a contender, even if he's just like a you know, 968 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 2: reserve backup piece, Like hey, let him Jeeves. 969 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 3: I feel like. 970 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 2: That's the easy. 971 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:59,879 Speaker 1: Let him Henry, Yeah, Baltimore, Chubb deserves happiness too. Then 972 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: I could make. 973 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 3: More jokes about how much help Lamar Jackson needs. You 974 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 3: mean the Chargers, right, the LA Chargers, I said la, 975 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,720 Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't say which one. 976 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 1: Need the LA Chargers? You know here horring players like Pokemon, man, 977 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: like what are you doing? 978 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 3: Not even good players? Like he just wants names. 979 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: Gotta sign them all, Like you know what he's doing, man. 980 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 3: Any player that's closer to retirement. Lakwan's like come home 981 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,800 Speaker 3: going in. Yeah, I had to take though for Elijah 982 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 3: Moore to be a RAM And I'm like, look, we 983 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,840 Speaker 3: need a slot guy, man, I'm willing to take whoever 984 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:33,479 Speaker 3: on this list. 985 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: Man, now, let Devance play the slot. 986 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 2: You're all excited about to to Well, you wanted Greg Dorts, Like, 987 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 2: have Greg Dors be your slot guy? 988 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 3: He is held captive in Arizona right now. 989 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,399 Speaker 1: I don't know how do. 990 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 3: You feel about Elijah Moore making this list? But Greg 991 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 3: Dorts not very But I'm pretty sure like half the 992 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 3: people in the building don't even know who Greg Dortch is, 993 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 3: so it's all right. 994 00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 1: But Greg Rosenthal knows who Greg Dortch is. 995 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 3: Yes, but he's not worthy of the one on one. 996 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 3: He's at one O two, He's on the next version. 997 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna got he's probably not at one 998 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 2: o two either, but if that helps you sleep at night, 999 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 2: then that's what we'll go for. 1000 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 3: You Shaid sweet him and be like, yo, where what 1001 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 3: does Greg georch have to do to make your top 1002 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:15,320 Speaker 3: one on one? 1003 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,359 Speaker 1: I'll do it. Good luck to you, sir. 1004 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 2: We're not done yet. We're gonna talk about some winners 1005 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 2: and losers coming up after the break. Stick around for 1006 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 2: more of the NFL Fantasy Football Show. So obviously there 1007 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,879 Speaker 2: are still guys to be signed. We just went through 1008 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 2: a whole big list of them. One guy that I 1009 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 2: failed to mention earlier in the show, Kyle Shanahan finally 1010 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 2: gets Mac Jones Jones signing with the San Francisco forty 1011 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 2: nine ers. Apparently, the Niners and Kyle Shanahan they're just 1012 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 2: sort of like a rehab for for broken quarterbacks. You know, 1013 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 2: like your reputation is sort of battered, your performance has 1014 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,839 Speaker 2: not been great. Come on down to Kyle's house, quarterbacks, 1015 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 2: We get y'all fixed up. We'll get you all sision 1016 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 2: back out in the wild. You know. 1017 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 1: It's like the you know, the SPCA for quarterbacks or something. 1018 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 2: We're just gonna like get you all patched up and 1019 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,479 Speaker 2: we're to send you back out there again. 1020 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 3: So you know, the Niners and Vikings, that's that's what 1021 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 3: they've become. And Sean McVay could be that, but instead 1022 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 3: he's just like, I'm cool with Jimmy G for the 1023 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:21,800 Speaker 3: rest of time. 1024 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 2: I think. I think Sean McVay has sort of painted 1025 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 2: himself into a corner because he got Jimmy and he's like, oh. 1026 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 4: He must be good at having conversation with Sean, because 1027 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 4: I just don't get it. 1028 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:38,800 Speaker 2: Hey, for how much money do you need? Manams posted 1029 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 2: like a video being like he's back and it was 1030 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 2: Jimmy G and I legit started laughing at it. 1031 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: No, I'm better or worse than the Bills. Nathan Peterman 1032 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,479 Speaker 1: QB one video work. 1033 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 2: I mean better that. 1034 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,360 Speaker 3: That's the worst quarterback video. I mean they in the 1035 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 3: middle of a playoff race started him and he threw 1036 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 3: six interceptions. What are we doing? 1037 00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: Let's talk some wayers and losers. 1038 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 2: Though, so far in free agency, la quantitybody that jumps 1039 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 2: out to you is a big winner and or a 1040 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 2: big loser. So far for the first couple of days. 1041 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,760 Speaker 3: Winner for me is Baker Mayfield. 1042 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 4: You get Chris Godwin, back the familiarity and it puts 1043 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 4: him back in that top ten fantasy conversation. And I 1044 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 4: definitely think, you know, Baker Mayfield is probably as happy 1045 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 4: as I am, you know, with my Chris Godwin shares 1046 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 4: and my Baker shares as well. Like I'm looking at 1047 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 4: it like, oh well we're back, you know, even with 1048 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,840 Speaker 4: or without Liam Cohen. I think Baker balldal and stepped 1049 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 4: up to the play and having all his weapons ascendled assembled, 1050 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 4: it is going to be very important. 1051 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually I think you're right though, because everything 1052 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 2: they keep the band back together, right the Bucks. The 1053 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 2: Bucks are going to ride with Mike Evans and Chris 1054 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 2: Godwin pretty much until the wheels fall. 1055 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: Off, which in terrible, man. 1056 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 2: I mean, we've seen what they've been able to do 1057 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 2: the last few years, so why not sort of keep 1058 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 2: that thing together. 1059 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 1: Any big winners or losers for you, Florio, I. 1060 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 3: Know it feels kind of repetitive because these moves happened 1061 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 3: like right away, but I think Justin Fields, DeVante ad 1062 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,760 Speaker 3: naj Harris to me or the three players who gained 1063 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 3: the most fantasy value this week from free agency, and 1064 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,839 Speaker 3: I think the biggest loser is Sam Donald. Yes, Yeah, 1065 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 3: you go from Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, TJ. Hockinson, and 1066 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell's play calling system to Clink Kubiak, who's a 1067 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 3: solid OC. But then like Jameson is awesome, but then 1068 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 3: your wide receiver two is mvs. Your tight end is 1069 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 3: Noah Fan, your on line has questions like it. I 1070 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 3: don't think Sam Donald is going to be able to 1071 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,919 Speaker 3: repeat the fantasy success he had last year. 1072 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Donald was gonna be my guy, was my immediate 1073 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,879 Speaker 2: answer for the guy who really takes the biggest hit. 1074 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 2: I think is just going to Seattle just does not 1075 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 2: work out for him. And I'll say this, I think 1076 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 2: I think Jsen sort of fits into both winner and 1077 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 2: loser categories because he definitely gets an upgrade in target 1078 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 2: share with both Tyler Lockett and DK metcalf gone. But 1079 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 2: you know, I think we can debate whether or not 1080 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 2: Sam Donald is a better quarterback option than what he's 1081 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 2: had the last year or two with Geno Smith. So 1082 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 2: I think Gino's better, you know, I think in one 1083 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 2: respect he definitely gains. In another respect, Yeah, just I 1084 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know that it really improves his 1085 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,359 Speaker 2: standing a whole lot. So, yeah, that was that one 1086 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 2: was sort of weird to me. 1087 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 4: It is definitely debatable, but like Florio was saying, like 1088 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 4: I think Gino might be better in the situation, Like 1089 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 4: I rather had stuck with Gino, didn't get Samon because 1090 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 4: Sam is coming from the Vikings when we saw how 1091 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 4: he finished, and he's also in the division with the 1092 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 4: Rams twice a year every year, and the Carlins defense 1093 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 4: gut a little bit stronger, and it's like it's not 1094 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 4: going to be a fun time for him to be 1095 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,359 Speaker 4: in that division with the guys that he has around him. 1096 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I will also say I think Dk Metcalf loses 1097 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 2: in this whole two going to Pittsburgh and well just 1098 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 2: because one they haven't decided on a quarterback yet, but 1099 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,879 Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like it's going to be a guy 1100 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 2: that plays to Metcalf's strengths, right, especially if they really 1101 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:03,359 Speaker 2: are courting number twelve, that it's just not gonna really 1102 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,800 Speaker 2: work out for him. But also let's keep in mind 1103 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,080 Speaker 2: he's going to Pittsburgh with Arthur Smith, who wants to 1104 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 2: run the football. You know, they've got Jalen Warren there. 1105 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,919 Speaker 2: They bring in Kenneth Gain Well, we'll see how big 1106 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 2: his opportunity is. But it's just not going to be 1107 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 2: the same kind of offense that he's been in the 1108 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,359 Speaker 2: last couple of years in Seattle. I think, you know, 1109 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 2: I think for a lot of us who've sort of 1110 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,359 Speaker 2: been on the fence about DK Metcalf, I think this 1111 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 2: is an easy reason to knock him down your rankings 1112 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 2: and your draft board a little bit because it's just 1113 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 2: not gonna be the same. 1114 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,319 Speaker 3: And him and George Pickens are that they're like the 1115 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 3: same player kind of. 1116 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think DK metcalf is a severate employee, 1117 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 2: but I do think that they stylistically do have a 1118 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 2: lot in common. So but you know, look, still things 1119 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 2: to be seen, still moves to be made. I'm going 1120 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 2: through my timeline again, and I think we can say 1121 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,360 Speaker 2: we are marked from Aaron Rodgers signing in the middle 1122 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 2: of our show. 1123 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 1: So we should probably end it right here. 1124 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 2: We should end it right here before it happens and 1125 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 2: you know, and be done with it. So back with 1126 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 2: you on Tuesday again. We should probably do a mock 1127 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 2: draft sometimes soon do another mock draft. See how things do, 1128 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 2: see how things have changed now that free agency is 1129 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 2: in full swing. I'm sure there have been some movements 1130 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 2: when it comes to ADP. So maybe next week we'll 1131 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 2: do another mock draft that we can kind of talk 1132 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 2: about a little bit. Compare contrast from the first one 1133 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 2: we did about a month ago. They meantime, that'll do 1134 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 2: it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. 1135 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,760 Speaker 2: They happy, safe and healthy, do good and live well, 1136 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 2: enjoy what's left the free agency. Don't let forty one 1137 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 2: year old quarterback hold you hostage this weekend, and I 1138 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 2: we'll talk to you again real soon. 1139 00:52:46,400 --> 00:53:06,279 Speaker 1: Wow, don't