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Speaker 3: That's Tony Boselli, Prisco, CBS Sports senior writer joining us
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 2: Well. Happy by the week, Tony, you look rested and refreshed.
Speaker 2: I am. Also. Pete is just worn ragged. They don't
Speaker 2: give him a week off.
Speaker 4: They don't get me any time off. You kidding me.
Speaker 4: It's just a grind, you know that.
Speaker 5: What'd you guys do? What you did? You relax?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I actually uh hung out. Friday was nice. I
Speaker 2: was by myself at the house.
Speaker 5: Wow. The family, well, no, but you know when.
Speaker 2: You have you have a full house all the time,
Speaker 2: it's every once in a while. Because my wife and
Speaker 2: my daughter had high school cheer five hours away playoffs,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not going so by myself, ate some food.
Speaker 2: I was in bed early. It was glorious Saturday. I
Speaker 2: had to get up early, went to senior day at
Speaker 2: the swamp. My daughter, Alexis is a cheerleader, captain cheerlead team.
Speaker 2: Senior watched the Florida Old Miss Game, Great Football Game,
Speaker 2: Great game, Great Football game. And then Sunday got up,
Speaker 2: watched a little church and went played golf. Missed the
Speaker 2: missed the one o'clock games, which I was just fine with.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, I'm good. I'll be honest.
Speaker 5: It was a bad schedule.
Speaker 2: It was pete and I said, this is the perfect
Speaker 2: bye week to have this schedule. I'll just go play golf.
Speaker 2: Come back. I was looking more forward to the four
Speaker 2: o'clock I was hoping that Niner Green Bay game would
Speaker 2: be good. That was a terrible game, and so then
Speaker 2: I settled in for the night game and that was
Speaker 2: only good for you know, two and a half quarters.
Speaker 2: But you got to see Sakon go off again, So
Speaker 2: it was great. It was very very.
Speaker 5: Very lucky, and JP bolted the Alabama did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of days back in Birmingham for a
Speaker 3: few days. Never a bad thing, catching up with some folks.
Speaker 5: Were you in Birmingham when Alabama season ended?
Speaker 2: It was not good? Things aren't well and Central Alabama
Speaker 2: these days, you know it's not over yet, Pete, because
Speaker 2: there's so much it's over. It's so over for them.
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you right now, you could beat them
Speaker 2: this week. There are so many like two and three
Speaker 2: lost teams, Like, there's nobody that's great this year. Maybe
Speaker 2: well where.
Speaker 5: You know where it isn't over, fellas in Tempe.
Speaker 2: Do you think you had a chance for the playoff?
Speaker 4: Oh if they if they beat Arizona this week, they're
Speaker 4: in the there unless some weird thing happens, they're in
Speaker 4: the Big twelve championship game.
Speaker 3: This would be the all timer. It'd be what it
Speaker 3: would take for Arizona State to actually win a twelve
Speaker 3: team playoff expanded, they backdoor into a conference championship game,
Speaker 3: win it, go to the thing, and then be happy forever.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say this, They're not going to win
Speaker 2: the whole thing. They're not good enough. No, but I
Speaker 2: hope Arizona State does get in one. Pete's my friend.
Speaker 2: I'll be cheering for them. They're not in the Pac twelve,
Speaker 2: they're not a competition with the USC. USC's not me anyways,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, and I think it'd be good to
Speaker 2: have a school like Arizona State in there.
Speaker 5: I mean, look, they were picked sixteenth in the conference.
Speaker 5: They would pick last in the conference.
Speaker 4: Think about that last and they're playing. All they have
Speaker 4: to do is go to Arizona and win. Arizona's not
Speaker 4: very good now. In the past, It's happened before, way
Speaker 4: back in the day, they had chances to go to
Speaker 4: the Rose Bowl for the first time in Arizona beat
Speaker 4: them a couple of times at Arizona, So it's happened before.
Speaker 5: But all I gotta do if they win, they're in.
Speaker 4: The Big Twolf champions win that, then they'd be in
Speaker 4: the playoff and they might be the fourth seed.
Speaker 2: They'll be in the top four seeds because the conference championship.
Speaker 4: No if Boise, if Boise were to win out, I
Speaker 4: think Boise would be ranked ahead of them, would be
Speaker 4: the conference champion.
Speaker 5: That would be the fourth seeds, so they would be down.
Speaker 2: I thought the Big Four Conference were the first four seeds.
Speaker 2: No matter what, Boise could.
Speaker 4: Be ahead of Boise should have lost to Wyoming. They're
Speaker 4: not very good, but that's the way it works out.
Speaker 4: But anyways, if i was State wins and Arizona State
Speaker 4: wins and BYU wins, I mean BYU probably.
Speaker 5: Will be Houston.
Speaker 4: But if that happens, it'll be Iowa State, Arizona State,
Speaker 4: the Big Twelve championship game, Colorado will be out.
Speaker 3: You know what happens when the Jaguars are two to
Speaker 3: nine coming off of by this that comes to college football.
Speaker 4: Well, because it should be a lesson. It should be
Speaker 4: a lesson on bad coaching. What happened at the end
Speaker 4: of the ASU game. I don't know if you guys
Speaker 4: saw it, because whatever coaches out there, take it, learn it,
Speaker 4: live it, and never do anything like that guy ever
Speaker 4: did again in your entire life.
Speaker 2: Do you like Dillingham as a coach, don't you.
Speaker 5: I think it's great coach, but I think his situational coaching.
Speaker 5: Did you see what Tony?
Speaker 4: They were up five, They had a first and goal
Speaker 4: at the seven yard line with a minute ten left.
Speaker 5: They ran the ball first down, they called time out.
Speaker 4: On second down, he lost ten yards trying to burn clock,
Speaker 4: then went down, took the knee. They called time out,
Speaker 4: and on third down he went back like twenty five
Speaker 4: yards and then took the knee. And by the time
Speaker 4: he think he was gonna end up throwing the ball
Speaker 4: out of bounds, well he threw it out of bounds.
Speaker 4: Some fan touched it. There was a they stormed the field.
Speaker 4: There was a second left, and they had a hail
Speaker 4: Mary and you caught it on the three yard line
Speaker 4: and the game ended that way? Why not just go
Speaker 4: score a touchdown?
Speaker 5: And right right?
Speaker 4: So it was a moron alert times five hundred and
Speaker 4: I was ready to throw something through the TV.
Speaker 2: I can imagine just watching at Arizona steaking with Pete.
Speaker 2: You like that, that'd be great. A couple of cold
Speaker 2: ones in. He's passionate. All right, We've.
Speaker 3: Avoided it as long as we can let's get to
Speaker 3: the Jaguars two and nine coming off to buy back
Speaker 3: in the office today.
Speaker 2: There was a practice today for the Jaguars as well.
Speaker 3: Before that, head coach Doug Peterson meeting with the media
Speaker 3: and setting the tone after the bye week.
Speaker 6: I know there's a lot of negativity around us, and
Speaker 6: rightfully so, and then we understand that around me. I
Speaker 6: understand that, but but I choose not to listen to it,
Speaker 6: and I choose to go the other way and be
Speaker 6: positive because you only get so many days and so
Speaker 6: many opportunities in this league, and then and then your
Speaker 6: days are done. And when they're done, you know, you
Speaker 6: look back and you go, hey, you know, I gave it.
Speaker 6: I gave it everything. You know that that I that
Speaker 6: I had, you know, to these players, to this team,
Speaker 6: to this league, and that's what I choose, and I
Speaker 6: choose to to go out, you know, every single day
Speaker 6: and try to make a difference for this team.
Speaker 3: There was a similar echo of you know, something like
Speaker 3: that in the locker room today, which is open to
Speaker 3: the media, and that's what they have to look forward to.
Speaker 3: Now six games to go, they're not mathematically eliminated Tony.
Speaker 2: If they win the rest of them and Houston loses
Speaker 2: all theirs. They're in Week one hosting a playoff game
Speaker 2: eight nine. Come on, Pete, hop on board.
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, seriously, you're saying there's a chance.
Speaker 5: Is that the only there is a wildcard chance? I
Speaker 5: think too.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, but I mean.
Speaker 5: There's no chance. They're not They're not.
Speaker 4: They're not ripping off every win. They're not gonna it's
Speaker 4: not gonna happen. I will say this though, after watching
Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks and watching the bye week,
Speaker 4: this was a blown opportunity for this team to win
Speaker 4: the division. Yes, way the division has played out, we
Speaker 4: all thought it would be a good division.
Speaker 5: It's an awful division. And the Texas have major flaws,
Speaker 5: by the way, major flaws including the quarterback.
Speaker 2: The quarterback's not playing very well. Oh, I'm going to
Speaker 2: watch that on the All twenty two this week. I
Speaker 2: watched the game. I've not watched it yet, Pete, what's
Speaker 2: their biggest issue because I watched them interesting enough against
Speaker 2: the Lions where they played great defensively against the Lions
Speaker 2: on that prime time game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they've busted a lot of coverages, which is weird.
Speaker 4: Because they but they have the young guys in that secondary,
Speaker 4: but they bust a lot of coverages and then they
Speaker 4: can't protect them and he's sped up, Tony, He's offense.
Speaker 2: Is that the biggest issue is the offense?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it is. I don't.
Speaker 4: I think he's been sped up, and I think that's
Speaker 4: the offense of line. And even made a change. They
Speaker 4: moved the center to left guard. I saw that, and
Speaker 4: and it still isn't great. So they can rush the
Speaker 4: past or they did that. They sacked Levis eight times
Speaker 4: I think in the first half yesterday. I mean, it
Speaker 4: was just they're they're you know, the Titans office line
Speaker 4: is very good. But then they have a chance to,
Speaker 4: you know, really put the hammer to him, and Levis
Speaker 4: throws a touchdown to a wide open tight end and
Speaker 4: there's nobody near him and he runs basically untouched into
Speaker 4: the end zone for like what seventy five yards or whatever.
Speaker 2: It was terrible, yeah, quote, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: They're not very good that the Texans. It just doesn't
Speaker 5: you know what we did. We rushed to anoint the
Speaker 5: quarterback and.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, who whaa don't say we because I
Speaker 2: was on the record of saying this entire offseason, in
Speaker 2: the start of the show in the preseason, is like,
Speaker 2: everyone needs to slow the role.
Speaker 5: We all did well. You were not him.
Speaker 2: You were all him. Yeah, you were all in Pete,
Speaker 2: come on him.
Speaker 5: I was on the t team. I was not because
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 2: I wasn't. I wasn't a j Stroud. I think, by
Speaker 2: the way, I still think see the Shroud is gonna
Speaker 2: be a very good quarterback. But the way everyone, including
Speaker 2: you Pete anointed him as like top five, one of
Speaker 2: the best quarterbacks in the league, I'm like, whoa, he's
Speaker 2: done it for one season.
Speaker 5: I didn't say he was top five.
Speaker 2: Yes, you did run the let's run the tape. We
Speaker 2: have the tape.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's be real for the kid. Though his offensive
Speaker 4: line has been brewed to all year. He lost taline
Speaker 4: for most of the year, then he lost digs for
Speaker 4: most he pulled it.
Speaker 2: He pulled the Dan Rosky.
Speaker 4: I mean, what are you thinking, man? But yeah, they're
Speaker 4: not They're not playing very well and this would have
Speaker 4: been an opportunity for Jacksonville or whoever in the division
Speaker 4: to go take it.
Speaker 5: And nobody's taken it. No, they're not any good either.
Speaker 5: They could they Look, they couldn't.
Speaker 4: There's just sitting there waiting for somebody to take it
Speaker 4: from him, and nobody can go take it from them.
Speaker 2: It's only two games back for the Colts. No, the
Speaker 2: Colts are still in it.
Speaker 5: They're in it. But they're not very good either.
Speaker 2: Not if they're not. I mean, they had played a
Speaker 2: heck of a game against defensively against the Lions beat
Speaker 2: holding the twenty four points well under their season average,
Speaker 2: but offensively they got nothing with it. They just have nothing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and look you see that two and nine
Speaker 4: sitting there, and you say, okay, if that thing was
Speaker 4: five and seven right or five pete, if you have four.
Speaker 2: And seven right now, with these last six games, you'd
Speaker 2: feel good about yourself. Yeah, certainly, But they're not.
Speaker 5: They and they lost a lot of close games. And
Speaker 5: you know it's funny.
Speaker 4: I go back last night and I watched the Eagles
Speaker 4: Rams game and the Eagles maull the Rams last night.
Speaker 5: You watched it. Yep, James want a chance to win
Speaker 5: that game at Philly.
Speaker 2: They did. They had the ball with inexplicably, Yeah, they
Speaker 2: had a ball with it on the first and ten
Speaker 2: from the fifteen with a chance to win it, and Philly's.
Speaker 5: Been really good the last you know, five weeks of
Speaker 5: the season. Now, you know, it's just weird the way
Speaker 5: this league is right now.
Speaker 4: But the bottom line is the Texans aren't great right now,
Speaker 4: and if they ever had this was a chance for
Speaker 4: them this season, if they had any sort of record
Speaker 4: to be able to take the division and there and
Speaker 4: there's no way it's happening now, but it could have
Speaker 4: happened well.
Speaker 2: So the big question cook for this week. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is what part of our conversation today will be,
Speaker 2: but it's the biggest factor on how I feel about
Speaker 2: this game coming up. Is Trevor Lawrence gonna play? He
Speaker 2: practiced today. We don't know what his status is because
Speaker 2: I don't think they have to announce it until Wednesday, either,
Speaker 2: but is he Is he going to be under center
Speaker 2: running the offense? Because with mac Jones they have the
Speaker 2: last two weeks, I don't think they've gotten past ten points.
Speaker 2: It barely got past midfield and.
Speaker 5: So it barely looks like a functioning offense.
Speaker 2: With mac Jones in there. I don't have a ton
Speaker 2: of confidence against the Texans coming this week. But with
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence all right, could get interested chance, absolutely.
Speaker 5: But what would you play him though?
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, what we already talked about. This goes
Speaker 2: back to next This goes back to the last week's
Speaker 2: show and when we talked about.
Speaker 5: This again again.
Speaker 4: If I think the kid might push himself where he
Speaker 4: doesn't want to let down his teammates or something, rather
Speaker 4: than do the smart thing and not play.
Speaker 2: What if he's healthy, Pete, you don't know he hadn't
Speaker 2: talked yet.
Speaker 4: Well, okay, if he was healthy, then why wouldn't you
Speaker 4: come out and say he's healthy. Then they come out
Speaker 4: and said he might practice that and we'll see how
Speaker 4: it goes.
Speaker 5: Is he is he healthy?
Speaker 2: We'll find out how you practice. Listen, I actually think
Speaker 2: both of you are correct. Pete's Pete is it's fair
Speaker 2: with Pete's saying, because if the communication was he's healthy,
Speaker 2: we're ready to roll, right, that'd be much easier. But
Speaker 2: but CAUs I understand that. But what Pete's point is,
Speaker 2: if you're not I'm sure he can practice, is it
Speaker 2: worth the risk of playing him in five days?
Speaker 3: You don't know if he can practice until he practices.
Speaker 3: If he can't give you a practice him again.
Speaker 4: But Pete, they're talking about it sounds like they're talking
Speaker 4: about practicing him limited and Tony's my point in Tony's
Speaker 4: point is.
Speaker 5: If he's limited at all, why bother?
Speaker 2: I got your p and I agree with me. If
Speaker 2: he's limited and is a question mark, then I think
Speaker 2: you have to air on the side of precaution right now,
Speaker 2: you're two and nine. You invested in two undred fifty
Speaker 2: million into him.
Speaker 4: Right, I mean, it makes no it makes no sense
Speaker 4: at all to play him if you don't have to.
Speaker 4: And here's the other flip side of that, JP and
Speaker 4: You're you're the two of you are going to get
Speaker 4: angry at me when I say this. If there's a
Speaker 4: coaching change, which is highly likely, you're going to have
Speaker 4: a new coaching here who's going to be implementing a
Speaker 4: new offense and a new system, wouldn't it be in
Speaker 4: your best interest to have him healthy when that's happening,
Speaker 4: rather than have it laid until like May or something.
Speaker 4: If God forbid, if he had to have surgery after
Speaker 4: the season, that makes all the sense in the world.
Speaker 4: This season is in the toilet. I hate to tell
Speaker 4: everybody that, but it is. It's done and his best
Speaker 4: interest and the best interest for the franchise is making
Speaker 4: sure he's ready to go immediately when it's time to
Speaker 4: go next year.
Speaker 3: Pete, they're not mathematically eliminated yet though they're.
Speaker 4: Not ap I know they're not mathematically eliminated, but you're
Speaker 4: not mathematically eliminated from growing hair in your head and
Speaker 4: it ain't coming back.
Speaker 3: Sure, okay, it's fine, but it's mathematical right. And now
Speaker 3: when that happens, then you start looking like, we don't
Speaker 3: talk draft until they're mathematically eliminated.
Speaker 5: Well, that's because Tony doesn't want to and you know.
Speaker 2: That's we don't talk any of that stuff.
Speaker 3: But until it's officially a white flag, season's over, it's done.
Speaker 4: And meanwhile, every fan in the world out there is
Speaker 4: talking about the draft right now, but we're not talking
Speaker 4: about it because we're talking about a game that that
Speaker 4: absolutely means nothing for them in the future of the franchise.
Speaker 5: It means nothing.
Speaker 2: Pete. I actually disagree with you on that part. I
Speaker 2: agree with you your overall assessment of like, if Trevor's
Speaker 2: limited isn't worth it, that's a fair conversation. I think
Speaker 2: that's a fair point of view, and I also get
Speaker 2: what you're saying, JP is. If he can play, he plays,
Speaker 2: That's what he gets paid to do. Let's go because
Speaker 2: let's try to win a football game. Or I completely
Speaker 2: disagree with you, Pete Is. I do think this is
Speaker 2: a big one. I think this is an important one.
Speaker 2: You're at home. It's the Houston Texans, it's division lead.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying everything's fixed if you beat them, and
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're gonna run off five straight if
Speaker 2: you beat them, But I just get a sense this
Speaker 2: is really important to the fans, to the organization, Like
Speaker 2: you don't want to go out there and lay a
Speaker 2: stinker against your rival, the Texans, because because the reality is, Pete,
Speaker 2: here's the reality. If this team does the right things,
Speaker 2: and we can talk about this on future shows, if
Speaker 2: the team does the right thing as far as how
Speaker 2: they build the roster, and this is my opinion, I
Speaker 2: don't think you're that far away. And the two best
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in this division are still Trevor Lawrence and C. J. Stroud.
Speaker 2: And because of that, I still think for the years
Speaker 2: to come, it's gonna come down to the Texans and
Speaker 2: the Jaguars for the AFC South more times than not
Speaker 2: because of the quarterback play. I don't think the Titans
Speaker 2: have their guy, and Will Levis.
Speaker 5: I disagree with you.
Speaker 2: I'm playing really well and I don't think.
Speaker 5: I played him yesterday by the way he played Stroud.
Speaker 2: And I don't think Anthony Richardson is the right guy.
Speaker 5: It's early on better yesterday. It was better yesterday.
Speaker 2: I'm better.
Speaker 5: I know they didn't score a lot of points, Yester,
Speaker 5: but he's been better the last come.
Speaker 2: Okay, P I'll ask you this. If you had to
Speaker 2: rank the four quarterbacks right now, Trevor and CJ.
Speaker 5: Stroud, c J.
Speaker 4: Strouds Trevor one two and then Levis and then richards.
Speaker 2: And and you're the quarterback guy. Typically, isn't the team
Speaker 2: with the better quarterbacks are going to win the division
Speaker 2: more times than not?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 4: We used to, yes, yes, but again I'm going to
Speaker 4: go back to our old theory on it. And the
Speaker 4: more I watch football, the more i'm I believe.
Speaker 5: That I always have and I always will well. And
Speaker 5: I was disappointed night.
Speaker 2: I was disappointed with your post on X last night,
Speaker 2: very disappointed because you acted like you came up with
Speaker 2: this idea of big people on your own. I wish
Speaker 2: you would a reference. My good friend Tony has been
Speaker 2: telling me this for years. I am now a believer
Speaker 2: that big people are important. I'm not shocked that he
Speaker 2: would take somebody else's idea and use it for used
Speaker 2: it for himself. I like to call who's.
Speaker 4: Ever since when I covered when I first started covering
Speaker 4: a franchise and Laughlin brought me your your old stinky tape.
Speaker 5: To watch because he's gonna draft you. What you talking at, Bete?
Speaker 2: Who's been hammering you for a year years about this?
Speaker 2: How you build it?
Speaker 4: I've always believed that the conviction that you showed on X.
Speaker 2: I wish you would I feel.
Speaker 5: Like the quarterbacks first, and you would admit that I agree.
Speaker 2: But I wish you would have given a little bit
Speaker 2: of credit instead of plagiarizing my thoughts.
Speaker 5: Hey, hey, look I did something nice for you.
Speaker 4: I made we did a thing yesterday on set the
Speaker 4: top five Italian football players of all time.
Speaker 5: You came in number three.
Speaker 2: Three who was one and two?
Speaker 5: Franco Rino and Montana. What are you kidding me? You're
Speaker 5: not ahead of them?
Speaker 2: Franco on the list.
Speaker 5: Franco was four.
Speaker 2: Okay, Franklin.
Speaker 4: That's that's the Bosas and Flacco and all these guys
Speaker 4: were in there as well.
Speaker 5: But uh, you know you were you were you were
Speaker 5: number three?
Speaker 2: Thank you. I know we're over when we come back.
Speaker 2: You know what I want to talk about, Pete. I
Speaker 2: can't wait to hear this. How does this team beat
Speaker 2: the Texans this week? What's that game plan? Let's talk
Speaker 2: about how they beat them, and then we'll get to
Speaker 2: defense later. We got to talk about defense, no doubt
Speaker 2: about it. But I want to because like that's the
Speaker 2: most important thing, like we can look back and beat
Speaker 2: up everything two and nine and everything else, like the
Speaker 2: whole talk after and I also the other thing. Two
Speaker 2: things I want to talk about today. I mean, you
Speaker 2: better hurry. We're running out of time. Okay? How that?
Speaker 2: And then Pete, I want to get your perspective because
Speaker 2: before the Detroit game, the tweet came out I believe
Speaker 2: it was Ian Rapperport and said that if they get
Speaker 2: be badly, there's going to be changes. Yes, nothing happened, correct,
Speaker 2: How does it? Where does that come from? Pete? You're
Speaker 2: in this world, yep. I don't fully understand where these
Speaker 2: leaks and how this happens, but Ian Rappaport was adamant
Speaker 2: and nothing happened.
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Speaker 6: You took a dive into that right schematically, just to
Speaker 6: see where we were and see what we're doing, and see.
Speaker 5: What we do well.
Speaker 6: And you know there's some things that I'm not going
Speaker 6: to get into the whole details of things, but you
Speaker 6: know there's things in the run game that we got
Speaker 6: to get back to, even in the passing game, you know,
Speaker 6: tweaking some things there, and some things that we can
Speaker 6: help our you know, hopefully help our production you know,
Speaker 6: the next uh in the next six weeks and then
Speaker 6: and ultimately just have some time away. You know, we
Speaker 6: needed as I said last week, we needed uh, you know,
Speaker 6: some rest and get refreshed and and you know see
Speaker 6: where see where these next six weeks.
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Speaker 3: Texans coming up in just a moment. But Pete, we
Speaker 3: were going to break and Tony has this laundry list
Speaker 3: of things he wants to talk about.
Speaker 5: It's amazing.
Speaker 3: And speaking of plagiarism, there's and I don't want to
Speaker 3: give the full you know how we make the sausage
Speaker 3: here every Monday. But in the morning, I put together
Speaker 3: a list of ideas that I have, right Pete, we texted.
Speaker 2: I texted out to both of you guys and Pete
Speaker 2: and I basically say, we don't care. You ignore it
Speaker 2: and you read it or you don't, I don't care whatever.
Speaker 3: Thwarth on the list today was how does the report
Speaker 3: come out about Peterson on the hot seat? But one
Speaker 3: are the nuts and bolts of how that gets reported?
Speaker 3: And he just talked about it like he just came up.
Speaker 2: With this thing I did. I mean, what are we
Speaker 2: doing at nine am to day Tony.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well he did a he doesn't read it. I
Speaker 4: read it. I read it, and Tony doesn't read it.
Speaker 4: So that's where he came up with the idea.
Speaker 2: He stole you.
Speaker 5: He's a thief of an idea, kind.
Speaker 2: Of like you, Pete, like he plagiaris me. Last on
Speaker 2: the next unbelievable. Yes, you did.
Speaker 4: I taught you, if it was up to you would
Speaker 4: be seven on seven football and which, by the way,
Speaker 4: that was.
Speaker 3: An awful take. By the way, the whole you didn't
Speaker 3: like the snow game, Pete, I thought that was stupid too.
Speaker 3: I'll say this.
Speaker 2: Physical play is coming back. You look at the teams
Speaker 2: and the reass reassurgence of backs, of big backs, physical
Speaker 2: backs running the ball, play action of fake that's what
Speaker 2: the whole lines are built on. You look at the
Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers, Josh Jacobs, you look at the Ravens
Speaker 2: with with Derrick Henry. I mean, it is a physical
Speaker 2: style of football, and some of the better teams right
Speaker 2: now in this league are playing that style.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But and you're right, and it's because of the way
Speaker 4: defenses play, right, everybody's playing all those off coverages, so
Speaker 4: with the safety not being down, why wouldn't you blast?
Speaker 2: I agree, I.
Speaker 5: Mean, but here, here's the other part of that equation.
Speaker 4: It's gonna go back to something I always say on
Speaker 4: here about playing fast.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 4: Offenses have now allowed defenses to dictate to them in
Speaker 4: a lot of ways, which is why it's going back
Speaker 4: to that run game, Tony. You know, normally you come
Speaker 4: to the line of scrimmage, you're moving guys around on
Speaker 4: offense and they're not doing anything to react to it,
Speaker 4: you know, And in the year's past, Well, now they're
Speaker 4: rotating as you rotate, and they're moving, and they're moving.
Speaker 5: And guys, you notice this too, I know you do.
Speaker 5: More guys are.
Speaker 4: Holding quarterbacks are holding onto the damn ball this year
Speaker 4: than I've ever seen.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: Offensive line play isn't good, but they're holding the ball.
Speaker 4: All the young ones hold them, and even some of
Speaker 4: the veterans are starting to hold the football because of
Speaker 4: all the looks that the coverages give them. But more
Speaker 4: than that, up front, all those twists and exotic looks
Speaker 4: and stunts are.
Speaker 5: Given linemen problems.
Speaker 4: So what happened has what has happened it is the
Speaker 4: defenses are now dictating to the offenses, which is why
Speaker 4: the run game's becoming vogue.
Speaker 5: To get away from that, you just blast them.
Speaker 4: But I think another way to do that is what
Speaker 4: I always say. Here we go go fast, go fast,
Speaker 4: go go back to the old k gun style offense,
Speaker 4: and you dictated to him.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, there's merit for that. But it's amazing
Speaker 2: how a run game will open up and force a
Speaker 2: defense to come stop the run. And now there's more
Speaker 2: space in the past game.
Speaker 5: Correct, the Lions are exhibit A.
Speaker 2: Yep. Right, So let's let's we'll talk about how you
Speaker 2: beat the Texans next segment. Yeah, let's talk about this report.
Speaker 2: Pete walk us through. How does this happen? I mean,
Speaker 2: you're in the business. This is your you know, value way,
Speaker 2: not that you're a I.
Speaker 5: Mean, I'll give you an example.
Speaker 4: You saw Mike mclargy came out the other day and
Speaker 4: said that he told Ian Rappidport a lie. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 4: and can I I can say that's actually happened to me.
Speaker 5: It happened to me in the draft that Nick Bosa
Speaker 5: and Kyler Murray were coming out. Do you remember that draft? Yep?
Speaker 5: And this is how stuff happens.
Speaker 4: One of the guys that was in Arizona that I
Speaker 4: trusted greatly, I know him for years. I sent him
Speaker 4: a text. I said, hey, who are you drafted? You know, basically,
Speaker 4: give me an idea. You know, they had the number
Speaker 4: one over pick. They sent me a picture of Nick
Speaker 4: Bosa and I went, wait a second, You're not serious, right,
Speaker 4: He goes, oh, very serious. So I come out that
Speaker 4: week and I say, hey, look, the bottom line is
Speaker 4: they're not all in on Kyler Murray just yet.
Speaker 5: There's a chance it could be Nick Bosa.
Speaker 4: So when the pick comes to the podium that that year,
Speaker 4: I took endless stream of crap from people because I
Speaker 4: said that, well, the person that told me that I trusted,
Speaker 4: I knew him for decades and I trusted.
Speaker 5: Him, so neils to say.
Speaker 4: I went back out to Arizona in February and May
Speaker 4: of that year to go do something on Kyler Murray.
Speaker 4: And I went and had dinner with that guy, and
Speaker 4: I said, why in the hell would you do that
Speaker 4: to me? Of all the people out there, you know
Speaker 4: me for decades, Why did you do that to me?
Speaker 5: I thought? And I just reamed them and I said,
Speaker 5: if that's the way you're gonna be. Then we're done.
Speaker 4: And he tried to say that there was a clause
Speaker 4: in the baseball contract that hadn't finalized. Spieled, but I
Speaker 4: reamed them and I said, look, if we're going to
Speaker 4: go on here, you can't do that to me. So
Speaker 4: you see Malarkey's situation. He gives laughs about it. It's
Speaker 4: not funny. He gave it to eat to rap Aport
Speaker 4: and he went with it. He made him look like
Speaker 4: an idiot. Well, this time somebody clearly leaked something to Rapaport,
Speaker 4: somebody who can't make that decision, somebody who won't make
Speaker 4: that decision, but somebody around it leaked it to Rapaport
Speaker 4: saying before the game, something will happen. That's how that gets,
Speaker 4: is it, Pete?
Speaker 2: I know we're speculating, is it agents? Is it?
Speaker 5: No, you're not. You can't run that with it it
Speaker 5: you can't run you can't put that out.
Speaker 2: So that's somebody in the building who's saying that that
Speaker 2: doesn't actually have the juice to make the decision in
Speaker 2: your estimation.
Speaker 4: Correct, Look, the only one who can make the damn
Speaker 4: decision is Sean Cohn.
Speaker 5: So you know it didn't come from him, absolutely not,
Speaker 5: absolutely not.
Speaker 4: Would it come from other people in the building probably,
Speaker 4: and that's where he probably got it from.
Speaker 5: And so yeah, if we get.
Speaker 4: Blown out today, it's gonna look it's it's a it's
Speaker 4: a dog eat dog world, Tony. I mean, I could,
Speaker 4: I could go back to stories and when when Mike
Speaker 4: Smith was gonna be fired in Atlanta, and guys in
Speaker 4: that building were circling around him like a vulture hoping
Speaker 4: he would lose a game because then he would be fired.
Speaker 4: And they went to New Orleans and beat New Orleans,
Speaker 4: and the guys, the other guys in the other building
Speaker 4: were they were upset about it. They had scowls on
Speaker 4: their faces even though they won the game because they
Speaker 4: wanted them out.
Speaker 5: Well, that's the kind of stuff you get.
Speaker 4: That kind of stuff gets leaked out, and that's probably
Speaker 4: what happened in that situation.
Speaker 2: Interesting, all right, guys, we'll come back and we'll formulate
Speaker 2: a game plan to beat the Texans when we come back.
Speaker 2: Let's do it a path to.
Speaker 5: Find got to get better draft pick, get it better
Speaker 5: draft pick?
Speaker 3: Hey mathematically still alive, Pete, And especially if they beat the.
Speaker 5: Number one overall pick. You can bargain that thing down
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Speaker 6: We'll find out today. We'll see where Trevor's at today.
Speaker 6: You know, then he's got tomorrow come in and get treatment,
Speaker 6: and you know, see where he's at on Wednesday. How
Speaker 6: he feels he's feeling better today, you know.
Speaker 5: So that's that's positive.
Speaker 2: That is positive.
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Speaker 3: JP Shadwick Hall of Famer, Tony Boselli, and Pete Prisco,
Speaker 3: who should be in the Hall of Fame as well.
Speaker 2: One of the greatest Pete reporters I've ever been around.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Yes, all right, let's figure out and
Speaker 3: formulate and share a game plan for the Jaguars to
Speaker 3: beat the Houston Texans this week. Now, mind you, the
Speaker 3: Texans have won nine of the last ten trips to Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: Thank you JP for the encouraging word.
Speaker 3: And the Texans are in first place in the AFC side. Yes,
Speaker 3: we realize that the Jaguars have lost what four in
Speaker 3: a row. We're five games back.
Speaker 2: Yes, so if we lose this to them, we're I
Speaker 2: think technically out of We have no chance of winning
Speaker 2: that a vision race, yes, maybe outside chance of wildcard
Speaker 2: p there isn't it.
Speaker 4: Now, get the number one seat, number one overall.
Speaker 5: Pick that you do it with a division stop it.
Speaker 3: Jeene Fornette had the tweet earlier today. Jaguars will be
Speaker 3: the first team eliminated if they lose to Houston, and
Speaker 3: then they would be out of the wild card. If
Speaker 3: the Chargers win in Atlanta, Ravens win against the Eagles,
Speaker 3: and the Denver wins at home on Monday Night against
Speaker 3: the Browns, that's a lot to happen. Yeah, in the theory,
Speaker 3: they could be eliminated AllGame.
Speaker 2: In theory. In theory, they can still be in the
Speaker 2: race and Pete can get his wish and we're talking
Speaker 2: draft next week, right, or they could keep the dream alive.
Speaker 5: You know. Here, here's the thing about that, Tony.
Speaker 4: You talk about a win and how it could be
Speaker 4: important to the organization and beat the division rival and
Speaker 4: all that.
Speaker 5: You don't really believe that.
Speaker 4: And here's why, because I remember, I remember way back
Speaker 4: in the day and you told me this.
Speaker 5: In nineteen ninety five, your team went to Cleveland. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and one.
Speaker 2: We went to Cleveland early in one.
Speaker 5: No, you what was the last game of the year.
Speaker 5: It was in.
Speaker 2: Jacksonville against Cleveland. It was in Jacksonville, Okay, and you won. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we won.
Speaker 4: And the talk was that it carried over to the
Speaker 4: next season and it gave you a momentum. And you
Speaker 4: back then with the point you've made about five hundred
Speaker 4: times since then.
Speaker 5: You told me no damn way that carried over.
Speaker 2: To be honest with the Pete. After that game, I
Speaker 2: just wanted to leave. I wanted to get out of it.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to see anybody else.
Speaker 4: It was right after that game you said it, and
Speaker 4: I think you said it throughout the entire offseason because
Speaker 4: I kept trying to ask you, hey, yeah, and then
Speaker 4: you've said it many a time since then, So you
Speaker 4: don't truly believe that.
Speaker 2: I guess not. I just I just I just what
Speaker 2: I don't like and why it's important, mate. It's just
Speaker 2: important to me is because of the stat that JP
Speaker 2: just said they've won nine to ten here, and I
Speaker 2: don't like that. You used to bother I just it
Speaker 2: bothers the you know what out of me because it
Speaker 2: just sets to me. Yeah, I just don't like that.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I could see where that would matter and
Speaker 4: you'd like to get one.
Speaker 2: But that's just so you know, that's where all my
Speaker 2: motivation is coming from, because you're exactly right, and if
Speaker 2: I'm being consistent. I said it ninety five as a
Speaker 2: going into my second year and when the head coach
Speaker 2: was saying, you know, everyone else was saying not everyone,
Speaker 2: but other people were saying differently, And I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: I don't. It's a different team, right, it's different players.
Speaker 2: You go get free agents, guys leave, you get a draft.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a different team.
Speaker 3: Why does bad football carry over? Like they they It doesn't,
Speaker 3: well last does it?
Speaker 2: Yes, you're down the stretch. Why did that carry over
Speaker 2: to the start? Back to what I said last week?
Speaker 2: You it could be systemic. You got to look at
Speaker 2: the whole organization.
Speaker 5: It also could be you were never as damn good
Speaker 5: as you thought you were.
Speaker 2: Either, well, that'd be systemic, right, I mean, I just okay,
Speaker 2: but I'll say this speech.
Speaker 5: It'll carry out.
Speaker 4: If you're good your next season, you should be good again.
Speaker 4: It should carry over. If you're bad your next season,
Speaker 4: you might get a little bit better. You might not,
Speaker 4: but it should carry over at least for a year
Speaker 4: or two. It's hard to get out from underneath your crap.
Speaker 4: But if you're a really good team like the Chiefs.
Speaker 4: Do you think the Chiefs Super Bowl carried over to
Speaker 4: this year?
Speaker 5: No good.
Speaker 2: Quarterback? They got one of the best three techniques in football.
Speaker 2: They got They have a systemic issue and it's a
Speaker 2: good one. Yeah, they're good. Yeah, I mean, and.
Speaker 4: So I don't I never have believed that carries over
Speaker 4: from season to season.
Speaker 5: I just it's entirely different team.
Speaker 4: How many guys from that team that you won and
Speaker 4: that won that last game in ninety five were even
Speaker 4: on the team in ninety six there were a lot
Speaker 4: of them were gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Let me tell you what carries over. What carries
Speaker 2: over is how you do things, the culture, the standard. Correct,
Speaker 2: That's what carries over from year to year.
Speaker 5: In this scenario, it might not.
Speaker 2: Go let's know what, I know what you're saying, Pete,
Speaker 2: but I think overall your identity as a franchise and
Speaker 2: who you are and how you do things and what
Speaker 2: the standard is and just kind of that carries over.
Speaker 5: But when we talked all year of as team doesn't
Speaker 5: have an.
Speaker 2: Identity, Okay, that's you're making my point, Pete.
Speaker 5: So can you get an identity in the last six
Speaker 5: games of the season. No, I don't know, No, you can't.
Speaker 4: You know, if if this was one of those shows
Speaker 4: where we had a light of that draw on you,
Speaker 4: that thing would be going off.
Speaker 2: Well, I I want to win because I don't like
Speaker 2: them winning nine at ten, and I think going back
Speaker 2: to the big the question we asked is how do
Speaker 2: they do it? Yeah? They what trealor Lawrence has to
Speaker 2: play has to I mean, I haven't seen anything with
Speaker 2: mac Jones in there that gives me any hope that
Speaker 2: offensively they have any idea of what to do and
Speaker 2: how to move the ball consistently.
Speaker 4: Well, six weeks ago, you had him traded for a
Speaker 4: nice draft pick or something.
Speaker 2: I was wrong. It doesn't happen very often, Pizza, you
Speaker 2: and I p I can admit when I'm wrong.
Speaker 5: You can't admit I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: You can't admit when you steal people's ideas.
Speaker 5: I was wrong. I admitted I thought this team would
Speaker 5: be good.
Speaker 3: You got quarterbacks, I he interrupted me, Okay, what else
Speaker 3: you got?
Speaker 2: Listen? What was Tank Bigsby out there today? Because I
Speaker 2: think think's important. I saw him running around in the
Speaker 2: open I've said it all year. I said it in
Speaker 2: preseason and I got laughed at that. He is key
Speaker 2: to the running the game, and I think he's your
Speaker 2: best running back running the ball. I saw him in
Speaker 2: the open media time today out there and when has
Speaker 2: this offense been at its best? When? When Bigsby is
Speaker 2: carrying the rock and they're running it well. So they
Speaker 2: got to get Bigsby going. They have to get the
Speaker 2: run game going against the Texans because right now this
Speaker 2: defense is on the field way too much and they're
Speaker 2: not good enough to play a tight game back and
Speaker 2: forth and get a bunch of three and outs when
Speaker 2: you're going three and out, and so you get these
Speaker 2: lopsided time of possessions that there's exhaust at eighty two
Speaker 2: plays against the against the Lions the week before that,
Speaker 2: they had like forty one minutes of time on the field.
Speaker 2: It's nuts. And so you have to run the ball
Speaker 2: and you got to keep our defense on the sideline
Speaker 2: as much as possible. And so running the ball you
Speaker 2: need Trevor, but you need to get the run game going,
Speaker 2: and hopefully, I think your best chance of doing that's
Speaker 2: with biggs By healthy. And then defensively, you're gonna have
Speaker 2: to get You're gonna have to steal the ball, you
Speaker 2: have to get a couple turnovers, steal some possessions, hopefully
Speaker 2: in your own territory. And he's turning it over, so
Speaker 2: that's a positive. There's a chance to do that.
Speaker 4: And then think their off line isn't great, so that it's.
Speaker 2: The other thing you have to do defensively. You gotta
Speaker 2: win on first down, I mean, because we're terrible on
Speaker 2: third down. Part of the reason we're terrible is because
Speaker 2: everything's third and short to third medium. I mean, have
Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions almost didn't even have a third down.
Speaker 2: Four of their scoring drives, the didn't even get the
Speaker 2: third down.
Speaker 5: Look at those numbers.
Speaker 3: That's just putrids defense rankings last in total D twenty
Speaker 3: sixth and rushing D thirty, first in past D twenty nine.
Speaker 3: Third down, they're at the bottom of every metric.
Speaker 4: I mean, all you gotta ask yourself is what do
Speaker 4: they do well? What does that defense do well?
Speaker 5: Anything? Nothing? No zero?
Speaker 2: If you just look at that and I can't think
Speaker 2: of one, well, I.
Speaker 5: Mean, and you'd like to think that they could. They
Speaker 5: have two good edge rushers.
Speaker 4: That premium guys won the first number one overall, you'll
Speaker 4: get third long enough.
Speaker 2: You don't give them enough opportunities.
Speaker 4: Correct, That's what that was my point, Tony. I agree
Speaker 4: with you. In a normal defense where you're stopping to run,
Speaker 4: those two guys would be significantly better than what they are.
Speaker 2: So that's how you beat him. In my opinion, Pete,
Speaker 2: disagree with you if you have any other points, but
Speaker 2: you gotta Trevor's got to play. You get to run
Speaker 2: the ball on offense defensively, win third down, I mean,
Speaker 2: win first down. So you create some third down, third
Speaker 2: and long situation.
Speaker 4: Let your pass back to stop the run the ball
Speaker 4: and stop the run.
Speaker 5: You have to bete in every game. That's the formula.
Speaker 2: No, but I mean it's even more importantly for this team.
Speaker 2: And I actually think maybe the most important thing is
Speaker 2: for us to run the ball, to stay on the field.
Speaker 2: We don't stay.
Speaker 5: I mean it is like, no, there's no, there's no,
Speaker 5: none of that. But here's the other thing. Okay, what
Speaker 5: if it is mac Jones, what do you do? Get
Speaker 5: on midfield and get on your hands and knees and pray.
Speaker 2: I mean, because I don't have a lot of I
Speaker 2: don't have a lot of good answers anything.
Speaker 4: I mean, you hate to say it, he's given you nothing,
Speaker 4: not one shred of hope that he could be their
Speaker 4: backup quarterback, even for the long term.
Speaker 5: It's just he's been bad, really bad.
Speaker 2: Has he been good? It's nope.
Speaker 5: I mean, has he been, he hasn't been as good
Speaker 5: as best when he played.
Speaker 2: No. So there's the path of victory against the Texans, and.
Speaker 4: Really the moral of the story is go down a
Speaker 4: different path because you might end up with the first
Speaker 4: overall pick.
Speaker 2: Peop, I'm gonna ask you a question. I think I
Speaker 2: know the answer. Would this team be better off I
Speaker 2: have six games ago, go in five and one, So
Speaker 2: getting to seven wins, you're gonna miss the playoffs, but
Speaker 2: seven wins you finished five soon or losing every game
Speaker 2: at five and set, so you go five and one,
Speaker 2: you're gonna be probably the tenth pick ten between eight
Speaker 2: and twelve. Or are you better off losing every game
Speaker 2: and having the first overall pick?
Speaker 4: Losing every game and having the first overall pick not
Speaker 4: because you need a quarterback, not because you're gonna draft
Speaker 4: a quarterback, because somebody's going to go give you a
Speaker 4: bunch of stuff to go up and get that quarterback.
Speaker 5: That's why.
Speaker 4: So if okay, for example, I said this today on
Speaker 4: the show we did, I said, if Jacksonville had the
Speaker 4: number one overall pick, you trade down how many spots whatever?
Speaker 4: You get some extra picks if you have and they
Speaker 4: have a lot of picks. If you have premium picks
Speaker 4: and you get four two offensive linemen and two interior
Speaker 4: defensive linemen, all of a sudden, you look around, you
Speaker 4: go this offensive lines bigger and stronger and better, and
Speaker 4: the defensive lines bigger, stronger and better. Well, I'll say
Speaker 4: everybody once, everybody out there is looking for edge rushers.
Speaker 5: They're not looking for edge rushers. They're looking for guys
Speaker 5: that can play down.
Speaker 2: They're looking for big guys. In my opinion, that's what
Speaker 2: they should go for. And a per interesting example of
Speaker 2: what you just said. If you look at the Rams
Speaker 2: got beat up yesterday. I mean, the Eagles are better,
Speaker 2: but you look at that Rams defensive line. They got
Speaker 2: four starters, good players that either are rookies or on
Speaker 2: their in their second year. Correct, they hit with two
Speaker 2: last year, and they hit with two more this year.
Speaker 2: Now for the next four years, they got guys that
Speaker 2: can play now at some point for you know, three
Speaker 2: four years down the road, they're gonna have to make
Speaker 2: a decision. They can't keep them, all right, but you
Speaker 2: got young, cheap talent who can play right, and they
Speaker 2: did that through the draft.
Speaker 3: All right, let's come back in a moment. Guys, we're
Speaker 3: gonna keep it real early today and we come back. Oh,
Speaker 3: it'll be faster. We'll do it fast, keep it real
Speaker 3: because we're.
Speaker 2: Gonna double up on around the league later. If that's
Speaker 2: okay with you, Tony, I think it was my idea.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Yeah, I think I came up
Speaker 2: with that one too. Now you're gonna do it wrong totally.
Speaker 2: You're just plagiarizing everybody today. You Impete steel ideas. What
Speaker 2: you do.
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Speaker 3: talked defense today coming out of the bye week. What
Speaker 3: are some of the adjustments you'd like to see on
Speaker 3: defense and how can they salvage it defensively this year?
Speaker 2: And you have about three minutes total. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: I think the first thing I would do is I'm
Speaker 2: getting Ventro Miller on the field. I think I would
Speaker 2: put him in Foyer as your two inside linebackers, and
Speaker 2: I would over the break work in Devin Lloyd as
Speaker 2: the sam because it gives you, I think more speed,
Speaker 2: it gives you more I mean, I think I think
Speaker 2: Ventrol's just playing better watching the tape. I think you
Speaker 2: got to make it as simple as you need to
Speaker 2: to make sure you know, guys are lined up in
Speaker 2: the right place, you're not having to bust down the field.
Speaker 2: And then you got to find a way to stop
Speaker 2: the run. If that's dropping the say, if he takes
Speaker 2: more chances, dropping the safety in the box, you know
Speaker 2: whatever that is. But you cannot you cannot continue to
Speaker 2: get run on the way they are and stopping the
Speaker 2: run with seven a light box is not working as
Speaker 2: of late. Pete, what do you think?
Speaker 4: Well, I agree with Tony in terms of playing Miller.
Speaker 4: I think he gives him a little thump to the game,
Speaker 4: gives him a little toughtest to the game. And you
Speaker 4: want to stop Joe Mixon, I mean you want to
Speaker 4: put him in passing situation, so that matters. I would
Speaker 4: play less man than they've been playing, because I don't
Speaker 4: think they're good enough to play man and that will
Speaker 4: eat them alive. So I would limit that a little
Speaker 4: bit as well. I'd see if I can get somebody
Speaker 4: into at safety. I think the safeties have been awful.
Speaker 4: And is uh somebody coming off?
Speaker 2: Maybe he gets more playing time. He came off right
Speaker 2: before the buy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he didn't really ready to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't play much. He just did special teams,
Speaker 2: I know, But is he ready?
Speaker 4: If he's ready to play, I'd get him on the
Speaker 4: field a little bit as well. But if you can't
Speaker 4: stop the run, to rush the passer and thus it's
Speaker 4: a problem.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I agree, put Miller on the field and
Speaker 5: let him play. And is your second round pick? Have healthy?
Speaker 5: If he's healthy, play him.
Speaker 3: He's been on the list, Pete, has he been.
Speaker 2: How bad of ankle does he had on the list?
Speaker 2: I don't know, But how bad is the ankle? It's
Speaker 2: been a while. I thought it was just a spring
Speaker 2: but maybe it was a bad high spring season.
Speaker 5: He didn't have an ankle and he didn't play correct.
Speaker 2: The the other challenge this week for this defense, which
Speaker 2: they did not face the first time. The first time
Speaker 2: we played Texans. Remember, Joe Mixing was hurt. And when
Speaker 2: Joe Mixon gets it going, they're they're a different animal.
Speaker 2: They're a different animal both in the screen game and
Speaker 2: the run game. He's good in the screen game too.
Speaker 5: What week did they play then? Week?
Speaker 2: It was like week three or four?
Speaker 5: Was Nico Collins in the u.
Speaker 2: N They had all the receivers, but they did not
Speaker 2: have Joe Mixon.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, now they don't have digs and they have
Speaker 4: Nico Collins back, and he's back all the way.
Speaker 5: So yeah, look it's gonna be.
Speaker 4: Here's the other challenge, hurry protecting your quarterback.
Speaker 3: Ye back in a moment our one down, hour two
Speaker 3: left to go. It is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by
Speaker 3: Jet Home Loans.
Speaker 6: Yes, nothing that I'll share this time, And I personally
Speaker 6: think that just to be a little bit more clear
Speaker 6: on that, you know, it's it's sort of I say
Speaker 6: that to say this that that a lot of these
Speaker 6: are in house, and these are things that that we
Speaker 6: we focus on as a staff and as a team,
Speaker 6: and I just don't think they need to be in
Speaker 6: the open right now.
Speaker 3: Head coach Duck Peterson today asked about changes during the
Speaker 3: bye week.
Speaker 2: Welcome Back.
Speaker 3: It's our two of Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Mister
Speaker 3: Chubby's Wings. Before the game, after the game, and during
Speaker 3: the game. JP Shadrick, Tony Vasselli, Pete Frisco. We're on
Speaker 3: ten TOONEXLAM Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. The Jaguars at
Speaker 3: two and nine coming off the bye week. Six games
Speaker 3: to go in the regular season, the Jaguars have not
Speaker 3: been mathematically eliminated. Quarterback questions Trevor Lawrence on the practice
Speaker 3: field today coming off a left shoulder injury. Will he
Speaker 3: be on the practice field Wednesday? Well, we're about to
Speaker 3: find out in two days. The Jaguars defense, well, worst
Speaker 3: in the National Football League. How do they improve it
Speaker 3: down the stretch? We just touched on that a little bit.
Speaker 3: We'll do it a little bit more coming up. And
Speaker 3: of course, the division leading Houston Texans are coming to
Speaker 3: town this week. They've won nine of the last ten
Speaker 3: trips to Jacksonville, Florida, or to one of those was
Speaker 3: actually in London a home game. But so the last
Speaker 3: eight of the last nine in Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: Nine to the last ten home games. Correct? Yes, yes, uh,
Speaker 2: I said in Jacksonville. That's incorrect. I wanted to make
Speaker 2: sure our food options.
Speaker 5: So it's their house thing, right, it's their house.
Speaker 2: No, that's what I want, what Tony wants. I don't
Speaker 2: like that he liked. I don't like that. That bothers me.
Speaker 2: Food option from mister Chubby's.
Speaker 3: Tonight we had the chicken Caesar rap and boneless garlic wings.
Speaker 2: Boneless garlic wings? Are they're still in there? I might
Speaker 2: go get one of those. They were pretty good. I
Speaker 2: had a couple. Is there any left? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I've been out there in an hour. I've been sitting
Speaker 2: right here, Tony. Maybe I'll go check her. I'm told
Speaker 2: there are a lot of them. Speaking of food, one
Speaker 2: of my favorite days of the years.
Speaker 3: Coming out Thanksgiving, Pete, Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: I can't wait.
Speaker 5: I'm a disappointed Thanksgiving, do you No?
Speaker 2: No, I quit doing that. I don't have one this
Speaker 2: year either.
Speaker 5: Who uh?
Speaker 2: Who do the Lions play? Bears?
Speaker 5: Bears?
Speaker 2: That'll be interesting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's good to watch. Caleb Caboys was better.
Speaker 2: Yes, he was. That'll be interesting. I'm not looking forward
Speaker 2: to the Giants Cowboys.
Speaker 4: No, the Giants Cowboys game is awful. But you know what,
Speaker 4: the Cowboys aren't dead yet. If they win that game,
Speaker 4: they're five and seven.
Speaker 2: Oh no, they're not. And then what's the night game?
Speaker 4: Last wildcard? That last wildcard is up for grabs in
Speaker 4: the NFC. The night game is Miami at Green Bay.
Speaker 2: Well it's a good one too. So this is my
Speaker 2: This is going to work perfectly because we're going to
Speaker 2: eat around two thirty three, that's right about when the
Speaker 2: second game's kicking off, which is a four to thirty kick.
Speaker 2: That's the tech. That's the Cowboys game.
Speaker 3: Twelve thirty Lions, four thirty Cowboys, eight twenty packers.
Speaker 2: So I'll be watching the I'll be cooking, frying my turkeys,
Speaker 2: which is my favorite, getting ready, kind of dabbling on
Speaker 2: the our nerves. How many turkeys do you have to fry?
Speaker 2: By the way, we have a big crowd. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: have thirty people for Thanksgiving. My hope, my siblings and
Speaker 2: my nephews and nieces are flying in my step mom.
Speaker 2: I'll just landed. I got a Texas during the show.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna fry two or three turkeys, depending on
Speaker 2: the size of my wife buys. We have a twenty pounder.
Speaker 2: We're gonna smoke, and then my mother in law is
Speaker 2: going to bake a turkey so I can get the
Speaker 2: good dressing baked in there. What time are you starting
Speaker 2: this turkey? Tom? By the way, like today the night before,
Speaker 2: so take you two days the day before, No, it's
Speaker 2: not two days stopping. And then we will have a
Speaker 2: honey Bay cam as well. So I'm gonna get up.
Speaker 2: We're gonna take a turkey trot. We'll walk on the beach.
Speaker 2: I won't be trotting, We'll walk the beach. Come back.
Speaker 2: I'll get the fryer's ready. Yeah. Watch football, Well, I
Speaker 2: watched the Lions game. I will feast at around two
Speaker 2: thirty to three thirty kick off of the Cowboys game.
Speaker 2: We'll have four I'll be sleeping in my chair, sitting up,
Speaker 2: wake up at some point for leftovers in the night game.
Speaker 2: It's the perfect lineup because I don't care about the
Speaker 2: Cowboys or the Giants and watching Matt but the first
Speaker 2: and third game I'm looking forward to.
Speaker 5: By the way, all.
Speaker 4: Jaguar fans should watch the Lions on Thanksgiving. That's all
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2: Why is that pete? I'll take I'll take the base.
Speaker 5: Watch them. It's fun to watch, fun team.
Speaker 4: Just watch why Why Because if there's a coach and change,
Speaker 4: that offensive coordinator is a guy that you should target.
Speaker 5: I think he's a great coach.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay. Watch they're also ten and one. That's another
Speaker 2: reason to watch them.
Speaker 4: They're good team, fun to watch, Tony. You know what
Speaker 4: they did on Sunday. They had like third and six
Speaker 4: and third and seven, and they ran the ball and
Speaker 4: got first downs.
Speaker 2: I was surprised, you know, good for a colch defense.
Speaker 2: Gus Bradley, former head coach here, good friend. They must
Speaker 2: have done something right only holding that team to twenty
Speaker 2: four point. It's pete. I didn't see the game, so yeah, but.
Speaker 4: They're so good. I mean they make it look easy.
Speaker 4: And you know what it all comes back to again,
Speaker 4: we go back.
Speaker 5: To the offensive line.
Speaker 4: How many times Golf gets to go into the pocket
Speaker 4: to play action, look left, look right, look to the
Speaker 4: other side.
Speaker 5: Then check it down because he has all day.
Speaker 4: He has all day back there you or he turns
Speaker 4: and fires a shot into the middle on a slant
Speaker 4: that's Saint Brown's always wide open in the.
Speaker 2: Middle because the linebackers coming.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 4: It's incredible and it's a precision offense. It's well done,
Speaker 4: it's well coordinated.
Speaker 5: Uh and it's fun to watch.
Speaker 4: And and by the way, if you want to watch
Speaker 4: go football. Kamp Willams was better on Sunday. I give
Speaker 4: him the credit.
Speaker 5: He he he made some really good throws against the
Speaker 5: Vikings on Sunday.
Speaker 2: And I can't wait. I love things. Pete. What's your
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving routine?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm working. I gotta go into the studio, but
Speaker 5: I'll be out of there. I probably. I'm we'll probably
Speaker 5: go out to dinner.
Speaker 2: Out the dinner you got have turkey and mashed potato.
Speaker 2: Have that dinner?
Speaker 5: Places you can go get sweet sweet potato cast role.
Speaker 2: You can do that their places.
Speaker 5: Sweet potato castro.
Speaker 2: It's the best od J Pete.
Speaker 5: What do you do for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2: I'll go over to a couple of friends houses. I
Speaker 2: invited you over. You said no, you didn't invite me.
Speaker 2: I when did you did not invite? I did to
Speaker 2: invite me. When did you invite me? I literally invited
Speaker 2: you ten days ago, already have plans. I didn't.
Speaker 3: You said what you do for Thanksgiving? I said, I doing?
Speaker 3: You didn't. Why don't you come to that.
Speaker 4: He's going to be sitting in his in his in
Speaker 4: his little easy chair with a little Swanson frozen turkey
Speaker 4: dinner or remember those old turkey dinners that they used
Speaker 4: to sell at the grocery.
Speaker 2: Well, I disagree with Pete, I mean with JP's characterization
Speaker 2: of it. But you are now officially invited they come
Speaker 2: over for Thanksgiving dinner. I'm busy. See that's why I
Speaker 2: said I got I got the heisman. Now you just
Speaker 2: embarrassed me. Okay, I see how this is? Thirty people?
Speaker 2: I mean, my gosh, a lot of good, A lot
Speaker 2: of good.
Speaker 5: Where do you sit? I mean they all sit. They
Speaker 5: all sit the same table.
Speaker 2: We have multiple tables. We have like love the kid's
Speaker 2: table or at the adults table. Are you gonna put
Speaker 2: the kid's table?
Speaker 5: Your kids are all like forty now you're talking about
Speaker 5: but there's still kids.
Speaker 2: There's still so they don't if you, uh, you might
Speaker 2: make the cutch ap. I'm trying to think who's all coming.
Speaker 2: But if you're more than welcome Pe and if you
Speaker 2: want to fly up for a late dinner, come on,
Speaker 2: you're welcome. That would be entertaining. I love now and
Speaker 2: it's the best. I love the fried turkey.
Speaker 5: Thanks for you make the stuffing. That's what I want
Speaker 5: to know.
Speaker 2: It's a good question. My mother in law makes it,
Speaker 2: bakes the turkey. Well, we have two. We have one
Speaker 2: that you stuffed the bird, the baked bird, which is
Speaker 2: very moist, very good, and then my wife makes a
Speaker 2: big pan of She'll make one corn bread stuffing which
Speaker 2: is very good, and then will make another more traditional stuff.
Speaker 5: You must have leftovers for weeks in that house.
Speaker 2: I will eat Thanksgiving dinner for I'm the only one
Speaker 2: after like day two, my kids are. My wife and
Speaker 2: kids are like, we're done. And I eat it four
Speaker 2: or five days straight. I love it. You know, it's
Speaker 2: really good.
Speaker 5: The sandwich sandwich.
Speaker 2: Get a little sandwich with white bread, white bread and
Speaker 2: the dressing and the turkey on the mayonnaise. And I
Speaker 2: like the cranberry. You know, it's really good.
Speaker 3: If you take your dressing up a notch, put oysters
Speaker 3: in there and bake the oysters in the dressing while.
Speaker 4: It you know what the Italians used to put in it,
Speaker 4: Italian sauces.
Speaker 2: I like both those ideas.
Speaker 5: See see yeah, yeah it's good.
Speaker 4: It's you know, look which Okay, here's the last question
Speaker 4: of thanks having which cranberry the stuff in the can
Speaker 4: or the stuff with the real cranberries in it?
Speaker 2: The above for me? Pass? You don't like cranberry, Pass,
Speaker 2: love cranberry, so pete it depends. I will have both
Speaker 2: of my plate because I enjoyed both. But for my sandwich,
Speaker 2: the canned cranberry, because i'll slice it much better. I'll
Speaker 2: slice it and put it on top of the turkey.
Speaker 5: It's better anyways, but it's much better on the sand.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's the best. And I don't like you more
Speaker 2: coverage on your turkey. Well, I'm not sure how they
Speaker 2: get it to be that gel. You don't want to know,
Speaker 2: I don't think so, don't read the ingredients. But it
Speaker 2: is so good.
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny you say that because I saw
Speaker 4: one of the places will Will you know they have
Speaker 4: those around, But they're selling a sandwich that's like the
Speaker 4: Thanksgiving sandwich. It's a Thanksgiving meal on the sandwich with
Speaker 4: that exact stuff that you just said. It's got the turkey,
Speaker 4: the stuff, and the cranberry, everything right on top of
Speaker 4: the sandwich.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have a little mayo too. You gotta have
Speaker 2: mayo on it, salt and pepper if not anyone cares.
Speaker 2: But my sandwich is white bread, mayo, salt and pepper, turkey,
Speaker 2: cranberry and that's it.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: My wife likes having the stuffing if she makes me
Speaker 2: want to eat it. But if I make my own
Speaker 2: just to.
Speaker 5: It's gotta be on a roll.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 5: You can't have a white bread kidding me.
Speaker 2: White pread makes it easy.
Speaker 5: Perfect.
Speaker 2: So so now now what Jaguars six to go? What
Speaker 2: happens if they win? Question?
Speaker 5: I want I want to ask this and I want
Speaker 5: you guys to answer it.
Speaker 4: Honestly, if you ask the majority of fans in Jacksonville
Speaker 4: if they would rather have the number one overall pick
Speaker 4: or win more games, what do you think they would say?
Speaker 2: Fans would all say number one pick.
Speaker 5: All of them to it to the majority of person.
Speaker 2: Now if you're asking them on Twitter or an everything
Speaker 2: on x is also they want they want at times
Speaker 2: burn everything down to pitchforks around the pitchforks are out,
Speaker 2: so I think most unfortunately, at least the fans, at
Speaker 2: least the fans on X in my timeline, in the
Speaker 2: in the mentions eye get are focused on first overall,
Speaker 2: pick and they're coming for people and heads roll heads wrong.
Speaker 2: So right or wrong, that's where they are.
Speaker 4: But and they'll probably be. Honestly, I don't usually agree
Speaker 4: with the fans a lot of time. I love the fans,
Speaker 4: but I don't know a lot of times I don't
Speaker 4: agree with them in this scenario.
Speaker 5: They might be right.
Speaker 2: Now, but I mean, if you're a player in the
Speaker 2: locker room, you want to win. You're trying to win
Speaker 2: the game whatever.
Speaker 4: You want to You want to go out there and
Speaker 4: you want to play well and you want to win period.
Speaker 5: You don't care about next year, the year after that.
Speaker 2: This is about you.
Speaker 4: You want to go out if you're if you're Brian Thomas,
Speaker 4: you want to go out and catch ten passes for
Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty yards and win. Anybody wants to win.
Speaker 4: That's that's understandable. Nobody, nobody could blame any player at
Speaker 4: all if they didn't, if they weren't going out there
Speaker 4: playing to win, is what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 2: Listen, you can't tank in the.
Speaker 5: Can you get hurt?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: And those guys they're they're playing for Like you said, Pete,
Speaker 3: it's the personal thing.
Speaker 5: Those guys.
Speaker 2: Most of those guys don't have guaranteed contracts, like the
Speaker 2: film matters, what you do matters, like they're.
Speaker 5: Gonna go hard. I'm with you, Tony, you go play.
Speaker 4: But but I say, in the grand scheme of things,
Speaker 4: the majority of people outside the players and the coaches
Speaker 4: would rather have the number one overall pick than some
Speaker 4: crappy two wins down the stretch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, so I'd agree with you, Pete. I
Speaker 2: think coaches and players don't care about the pick who
Speaker 2: you're picking, like they don't care. They're they're worried about
Speaker 2: trying to win a football game and keep jobs.
Speaker 3: But they're still mathematically in it. When they're mathematically out
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: Does that it does not.
Speaker 5: Win always want to win.
Speaker 2: But that might change around me and twelve going into
Speaker 2: the last game my rookie year. Yeah, and I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure if we would have lost that people, we might
Speaker 2: have had the number one overall pick number two. There's
Speaker 2: only one pick better than too that's number one, number one.
Speaker 2: But if you would have asked me, if if he
Speaker 2: would ask me, he's like, hey, do you you know
Speaker 2: if you lose, you get to the number one pick.
Speaker 2: My response is, I don't care.
Speaker 5: You would have yelled at me get out of here
Speaker 5: with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care, Like I want to win a
Speaker 2: football game, like the amount of work you put in
Speaker 2: as a player and as a coach. I'm sorry, Pete.
Speaker 2: Can we do the Besseli impression again? Get what are
Speaker 2: you talking about?
Speaker 5: Get out of here. You're stupid. You're being stupid, Pete.
Speaker 2: He sounds just likencanny. It's pretty good, Pete. It's pretty good.
Speaker 2: That's well done. I can't I got nothing, no come back.
Speaker 2: But they don't care. They don't care about what pick like,
Speaker 2: they just want to win because like these guys, these
Speaker 2: coaches and players put too much time into it. And
Speaker 2: if you, if you put if you, if you invest
Speaker 2: all that time, Pete, and then.
Speaker 5: You lose, it's just miserable.
Speaker 4: But I will say this, part of me, part of
Speaker 4: me wants them to lose every game because I want
Speaker 4: to see a franchise have the first number one overall pick.
Speaker 5: For you three times in five years.
Speaker 2: It would have never happened in league history.
Speaker 5: God, when you think about that.
Speaker 2: It's not that funny, Pete, it is.
Speaker 5: You gotta laugh at the misery of it. Yes, it is.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it gallows before we go to break,
Speaker 2: I got something. I'm gonna lock something right now. Oh
Speaker 2: I thought we were done with locks? Is hold on now? Ready?
Speaker 2: I lock right now? Get ready, Joey come back? No
Speaker 2: right now? No, we'll do when I come back, because
Speaker 2: I want to make sure that Joey's ready. That's a
Speaker 2: good boy.
Speaker 5: That's a tease, j P. Did you tease?
Speaker 2: I know, I got, I got where you go and tease.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to tease it. I wanted to come
Speaker 2: out strong and just make a statement and shock everyone
Speaker 2: as we went to break. But I don't think joe.
Speaker 3: In fact, we could probably hold this until you know,
Speaker 3: about five forty five doing it.
Speaker 2: We're doing it next segment, before we take the moment,
Speaker 2: before we take fan questions. We can't wait.
Speaker 4: I mean, if it's if it's nothing more than guaranteeing
Speaker 4: and win, who cares.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's a big build up for Let
Speaker 3: me tell you why this is a seasonal lock.
Speaker 5: Big Captain Sunshine Rainbows up there.
Speaker 3: Let's get this commercial break out of the way and
Speaker 3: get back so we can hear this lock from Tony
Speaker 3: was selling. It's jack Wars Happy Hour presented by mister
Speaker 3: Chubby's Wings.
Speaker 5: I mean, we got to keep working.
Speaker 6: We gotta keep we gotta keep you know, trying to
Speaker 6: put our as a staff, put our players in position
Speaker 6: to make plays on the field, and then ultimately the players,
Speaker 6: you know, execute the game plan. And again last week
Speaker 6: was about, you know, trying to find ways to do that,
Speaker 6: and you know, we're gonna we're gonna implement some things
Speaker 6: and really kind of get back to some things that
Speaker 6: I think we're successful to have been successful for us,
Speaker 6: and you know, uh, whether it's you know, rhythm, tempo, whatever,
Speaker 6: you know, to try to try to get things going.
Speaker 6: But ultimately, we just got to we got to focus
Speaker 6: as a staff, as players and just just continue to
Speaker 6: do our jobs.
Speaker 3: That's the head coach Doug petersond the full press conference
Speaker 3: at Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube from earlier today.
Speaker 3: Welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour JP Shadrick, Tony Boselli.
Speaker 3: We're at the Hyundai Studios of the Miller Electric Center.
Speaker 3: Pete Prisco is not he's down in South Florida, CBS
Speaker 3: Sports Senior writer.
Speaker 2: So next year, Pete, I want you to figure out
Speaker 2: your camp schedule. And we have a long time to
Speaker 2: do this, but we need you to have a camp
Speaker 2: schedule where you're we do the show one time, the
Speaker 2: three of us in the studio. Oh yes, and we'll
Speaker 2: just we'll play. So we'll get the schedule where you're
Speaker 2: here on a Monday during camp and we'll do the show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's good. I'll do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like that. We'll hold you to that, and
Speaker 2: people do it. He always comes up here. He's always
Speaker 2: got to plan it proper.
Speaker 5: I usually come early though, and we don't start.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna that's why you're gonna change it. You're
Speaker 2: gonna come late. We should come both, like early and late.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'll come. We'll do that next year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be fun. That sounds like a plan to me. Now, Okay,
Speaker 2: we've got questions coming out.
Speaker 5: Come on, let's get to the lock.
Speaker 3: We fanatics fan questions coming up in a moment. However, Tony,
Speaker 3: you've built up this lock like it's the biggest lock
Speaker 3: you've ever had. I don't know what this is about
Speaker 3: to come out of your mouth. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a little disappointing. But my lock is this.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you we will not have the first pick,
Speaker 2: meaning we are going to win at least two games,
Speaker 2: because right now we're the worst record. I think everyone
Speaker 2: else has three? Are we the only team with two?
Speaker 2: I believes what the Giants doing? The Giants have three.
Speaker 2: I believe.
Speaker 4: Right now the NFL draft order, Jacksonville's Giants have two wins.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I guarantee. So I'm just gonna guarantee head
Speaker 2: to head, by the way, in a few weeks, I
Speaker 2: guarantee you, Pete, we will not be the first team
Speaker 2: in NFL her history to have the number one overall pick.
Speaker 2: Three out of five years. You can lock it, take
Speaker 2: it to the bank.
Speaker 5: That's too bad, because that's it's better to have it. Man.
Speaker 2: I wasn't saying my preference. I'm just saying I just
Speaker 2: don't see this team. You think they're gonna win some games.
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna win games. I don't know if
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 4: They beat it, even if they beat the Giants, that
Speaker 4: would probably take the Giants out of it, because I
Speaker 4: don't think here, here's the here's the Giants schedule you ready?
Speaker 4: I mean the Giant schedule is Dallas this week at Dallas.
Speaker 5: When or not.
Speaker 7: Saints home loss, Ravens home loss, at Falcons loss home
Speaker 7: against the Colts loss, and then at Philly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they win again.
Speaker 5: And if the Eagles don't need nothing, need that game
Speaker 5: for anything, do.
Speaker 2: You think Tommy Tommy DeVito stays as the quarterback. I
Speaker 2: can't believe they're not going to Drew Drew Locke.
Speaker 5: Because there's incentives in this contract.
Speaker 2: You know that Cutlets, Tommy Cutlets.
Speaker 4: Don't care about when they're trying to get the first
Speaker 4: overall pick. They're the smart team.
Speaker 5: But you're probably right.
Speaker 4: The Giants probably don't win another game. So so Jackson
Speaker 4: might win one or two.
Speaker 2: I think they win three, three or six.
Speaker 5: Well they could. Let's let's say, okay, could they beat
Speaker 5: the Texans? Sure?
Speaker 2: Will?
Speaker 5: They probably not? Go ahead? What's this then? Go through
Speaker 5: the schedule JP.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give it to you. The Titans, they're gonna
Speaker 2: they're gonna.
Speaker 5: At least minimum split with the bare.
Speaker 2: Minimum split the Titans, right, Yeah, Texans this week at
Speaker 2: Titans home against the Jets, they're gonna beat the Jets,
Speaker 2: and the Jets are terrible. At the Raiders, they're gonna
Speaker 2: beat the Raiders.
Speaker 3: They're terrible home against So it's it's it's Desmond Ritter
Speaker 3: as your starting quarterback and Raiders.
Speaker 2: Did he get hurt?
Speaker 5: Yeah, he focused clavial.
Speaker 2: And then home against Tennessee week seventeen. Yeah, they're gonna
Speaker 2: split the Tennessee games. And then at the Colts. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the Colts, I think are going to be
Speaker 2: playing for something.
Speaker 5: What if what if they ran the table? It's not happening,
Speaker 5: but what if they did the Jaguars and we get him?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: What would that get him to?
Speaker 2: That would get eight wins? Eight nine?
Speaker 5: Eight? Might get in actually as the last wildcard team.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Now, all of a sudden, Pete, you're saying what we've
Speaker 3: been saying for an hour and twenty.
Speaker 5: Running the table. They're gonna lose more than they win.
Speaker 2: A way they're gonna do it. It doesn't matter. They're
Speaker 2: gonna walk. Will you lock six straight wins?
Speaker 5: Hell?
Speaker 2: No, I think this see I'm just telling you I
Speaker 2: think they I think the they're gonna win three games
Speaker 2: at least. If Trevor doesn't play anymore this year, they're
Speaker 2: not gonna win another game. They're done. I shouldn't say
Speaker 2: that's mean to mac Jones. There's nothing I've seen with
Speaker 2: mac Jones.
Speaker 5: It's not mean, it's reality. It's a football evaluation, not
Speaker 5: being mean.
Speaker 2: I just I've seen nothing offensively with mac Jones at
Speaker 2: quarterback that gives me any confidence that they can get
Speaker 2: anything going.
Speaker 5: He throws it out of bounds a lot.
Speaker 3: And so, depending on the scenario, okay, better than the alternative.
Speaker 4: It's just funny how it went from like before he
Speaker 4: ever played there getting something.
Speaker 5: A mistake.
Speaker 2: I made a mistake. I mean, listen, you told me,
Speaker 2: you told me, you told me Christian Ponder was going
Speaker 2: to be an All Pro quarterback.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a bad evaluation. You had already seen mac
Speaker 5: Jones play. I got an even worse one.
Speaker 4: Logan Ryan, the former Patriot, works with us on Sunday,
Speaker 4: the week mac Jones was starting.
Speaker 5: He was trying to say that he was better than
Speaker 5: Trevor Lauren.
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Speaker 3: with at totally chat. If Trevor comes back this week
Speaker 3: and the Jaguars beat the Texans, are we back?
Speaker 5: What does back?
Speaker 2: Meat? No, you're three?
Speaker 5: No, you're three and nine.
Speaker 2: How's that?
Speaker 5: Best seasons? The season's been in? Just a failure? No,
Speaker 5: pete does it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to your question. If you win
Speaker 2: six straight. I'm not saying they're going to but if
Speaker 2: you win six straight, what does that do for you?
Speaker 2: Evaluating the season, in the building and the organization, staff, everybody,
Speaker 2: what does that do for you? Does that change anything
Speaker 2: you feel for me? Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, okay, no, but what if they Now, if they
Speaker 4: won six straight and got into the postseason and won
Speaker 4: a couple of games, that would change something.
Speaker 2: I think I'm just forget about we don't know about posseason, but.
Speaker 3: This is one six straight with the roster they have
Speaker 3: right now, with all the injuries they're dealing with, what.
Speaker 5: If we stop?
Speaker 2: What injuries? What injuries are the The whole defense is healthy,
Speaker 2: they have no injury.
Speaker 5: Well, the second round pick has a bad angle, wink wink.
Speaker 5: What injury they have?
Speaker 2: Christian Kirk on offense? Yeah, and et should be coming back?
Speaker 2: What injuries we should be coming back for the year.
Speaker 5: Robinson got hurt yesterday?
Speaker 2: Did he really?
Speaker 5: I don't think it was everybody. I don't think it
Speaker 5: was major, but he got He did nothing when he
Speaker 5: was helping.
Speaker 2: Tell he's a starter on offense. To Davis talking about
Speaker 2: he's trying to sell me game, telling you there's no injuries.
Speaker 5: Stop there's an injury.
Speaker 2: Okay, urts out for the year. That's two injuries. That's
Speaker 2: nothing compared to the rest. The Detroit Lions lost their
Speaker 2: best player on defense. Yes, and they're ten and one.
Speaker 4: Hey gave Davis. This is the first game gave. Davis
Speaker 4: has been out, by the way.
Speaker 2: And for you and for you to say injuries, this
Speaker 2: team is not injured compared to the rest of the league.
Speaker 2: You want to look at injuries. Go look at the
Speaker 2: forty nine ers. Let me reword it.
Speaker 3: If they get out of their own way and win
Speaker 3: six games, that's a fair point.
Speaker 2: That's fine.
Speaker 5: That just got games, which is which isn't happening.
Speaker 4: Then they probably could make the postseason as then it
Speaker 4: changes the narrative, But it doesn't change.
Speaker 2: The narrative for you, Pete. You're still running everybody out
Speaker 2: of here.
Speaker 4: This is funny how one bye week washes the stink
Speaker 4: off from the worst loss in the history of the franchise.
Speaker 5: Because do you remember the last time they played football?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Sody, I'm not I'm not doing with JP.
Speaker 2: JP was making excuses. Pize the one that said they're
Speaker 2: gonna win six in a row.
Speaker 4: I've had multiple Pece, They're right, they're not gonna win
Speaker 4: three of the last six.
Speaker 5: How about that luck.
Speaker 3: That of the last six it'll be less than that
Speaker 3: for Pete people.
Speaker 4: But if they're lucky, they won't win any of them
Speaker 4: will have the number one overall.
Speaker 2: That's people like, tell me I'm wrong though, or correct
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong, because I've heard that someone else
Speaker 2: said this to me, And JP just said, well, this
Speaker 2: teams so injured. If you compare this to other teams
Speaker 2: in the league, they're not very injured at all. You
Speaker 2: have all eleven defenders on the field. You're missing on offense.
Speaker 2: How many games have starters missed? Etn missed two, Lawrence
Speaker 2: miss two, left guard miss left guard missed one, Kirk
Speaker 2: missed Fox four three. That's not a lot of starts
Speaker 2: if you look at I mean, like, yeah, the offense
Speaker 2: has been beat up. When you lose your quarterback, that's huge,
Speaker 2: no doubt about that.
Speaker 4: And by the way, with Etn, it's still debatable whether
Speaker 4: he's the number one back.
Speaker 2: Any fair enough, but defensively outside of Tyson Campbell early
Speaker 2: tell me what like, yeah, you're right, you're right, I'm wrong,
Speaker 2: you're right. Thank you. That's all I need here. They
Speaker 2: can move on. Question, that's that's bad tea.
Speaker 5: It's a bad team.
Speaker 2: Next bad team.
Speaker 4: But look at the bright side, you probably draft a
Speaker 4: running back in a third round.
Speaker 5: Add another one.
Speaker 2: That's thanks Pete at sick night.
Speaker 3: Well, I was Mike Caldwell fire is the DC when
Speaker 3: his unit was the main reason they started off last season.
Speaker 2: Well, so let me frame this question because it's a
Speaker 2: fair question. If you look at the when they were
Speaker 2: eight and three. The defense was having some issues, but
Speaker 2: they were making up over because they were getting turnovers
Speaker 2: in bunches and they were getting off the field. And
Speaker 2: then the turnover stopped and the music stopped and they
Speaker 2: were lost six to seven is basically how this went down.
Speaker 2: But when they were losing late, there was a lot
Speaker 2: of blown coverage and blown assignment play like it was
Speaker 2: just not it was ugly explosives kind of like this year.
Speaker 2: Well now they leaves I believe, or they're one of
Speaker 2: the worst team in giving up explosives. But the question
Speaker 2: is not fair because I mean not unfair because the
Speaker 2: first half of that season that defense was making things
Speaker 2: happen by by being ballhawks and turning it over.
Speaker 4: Well, they went from a bad situation to a worse
Speaker 4: one basically. I mean, look, Mike Calwell, the feeling was
Speaker 4: he was wasn't ready for that, was wasn't wasn't the
Speaker 4: guy for the job. So you make a change and
Speaker 4: you go get another guy who clearly is it the
Speaker 4: guy for the job. I mean, let's rotate another fourteen
Speaker 4: guys in on the field. So I just think I
Speaker 4: think that the whole thing is a disaster. When it
Speaker 4: comes to the defense. And you know, you look at
Speaker 4: that defense, you normally you would say Tony and you
Speaker 4: would agree this. You got two good defensive ends. You're
Speaker 4: gonna have an impact on the offense at some point.
Speaker 4: But because they can't stop the run, because they're not
Speaker 4: good in the middle, because they give up so many busts,
Speaker 4: they don't and they're good players. Trayvon Walker's a good look.
Speaker 4: I'm critical to pick. They should have taken a hunches in,
Speaker 4: but Traymon Walker's a good football player. Josh Heinz Allen's
Speaker 4: a really good football You're not get the sack numbers,
Speaker 4: but he's a good football player. But because they can't
Speaker 4: stop the run, it's and they're bad right up the middle.
Speaker 4: Think about it. They're bad all the way up the middle.
Speaker 4: They're not good up the middle.
Speaker 2: We've talked about it. Aren't good.
Speaker 5: The linebackers aren't good in the safeties of my bad right.
Speaker 2: I mean pens points right. When you can't stop the run,
Speaker 2: it's really hard to play defense.
Speaker 3: Let's get one more question then fanatics fan question and
Speaker 3: it is from at sam I am sheer one. What
Speaker 3: are the PFF by week grades? Any hope for US fans.
Speaker 5: I mean, is that seasonal grades.
Speaker 2: I think they're asking for the season. I think they're
Speaker 2: looking at what in the year's passed. We did a review,
Speaker 2: but I didn't want to do it this year. I
Speaker 2: think they were being the smart alect is what I
Speaker 2: think you think, So that's what I think.
Speaker 5: I don't I think they really want the grades.
Speaker 4: So I'm just gonna look them up and you tell
Speaker 4: me what you think about the highest graded players on
Speaker 4: this team. Who do you think the highest graded player
Speaker 4: on offenses for the year.
Speaker 2: On offense, I'm gonna say Brian Thomas Jr.
Speaker 5: He's second, Trevor's first. Who's the highest?
Speaker 4: Cam Robinson is still the highest rated offensive lineman, but
Speaker 4: that's not good. Behind him Ezra Cleveland and then Sheriff
Speaker 4: and then way down is uh?
Speaker 5: The center hasn't The last couple of games for the
Speaker 5: center haven't been great.
Speaker 2: Mitch Morse, how about defense?
Speaker 5: There's your offense? Aw about defense?
Speaker 2: I think did the I would say the two highest
Speaker 2: are the two ends, and mind consider the defense overall.
Speaker 4: Josh Heinz Allen's number one, Devin Lloyd is number two,
Speaker 4: and I think that has something to do with his
Speaker 4: run defense. But Lui con is number three and Trayvon
Speaker 4: Walker's number five, really four because Braswell's number four and
Speaker 4: he had played.
Speaker 2: Can hurt for a little bit? Yeah, okay, there's another.
Speaker 2: Are they healthy?
Speaker 5: He's back. You were saying they got if.
Speaker 2: They can win because they're so beat up, and that's not.
Speaker 5: True, right Jape. You name a player, he's gonna say
Speaker 5: he was hurt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not talking about the past, talking about now,
Speaker 2: talking about moving forward.
Speaker 3: Speaking of moving forward, let's come back and do that
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Speaker 3: and we start off with Thursday, the Browns over the
Speaker 3: stealing a game twenty four to nineteen, the snow Globe game.
Speaker 3: Pete hated it.
Speaker 2: I called him out on x Yeah.
Speaker 5: It look, it becomes a survival test. It's not football.
Speaker 5: It's crap.
Speaker 2: No, that's football, pure football.
Speaker 5: You know it's not you know, he.
Speaker 2: Reminded, Uh, Kurt Warner has similar feelings to you about
Speaker 2: games played in the elements.
Speaker 5: He's smart. He's a smart Manaker Warner.
Speaker 4: By the way, the Browns are considering a new stadium
Speaker 4: in the process and where they might put in.
Speaker 2: They want to put a roof.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4: We're gonna we're gonna see no more snow games other
Speaker 4: than in Buffalo because they won't put a rum.
Speaker 2: You know why. Kurt Warner says, I never asked him
Speaker 2: about this, but I mean he played arena football and
Speaker 2: then he played in Saint Louis in the Dome. Well,
Speaker 2: I want to be careful because I remember hearing the
Speaker 2: second I read it somewhere, and so I think, and
Speaker 2: that's why.
Speaker 3: The success in both places indoors so and I could
Speaker 3: be wrong because I.
Speaker 2: Think it's a quarterback obviously.
Speaker 4: Then he played in Arizona tractable room. Well, yeah, because
Speaker 4: it's football. You get to throw the ball around. It's
Speaker 4: not a survival test. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: That was football too.
Speaker 5: That's that game.
Speaker 2: In the element. I wish there was no covering some
Speaker 2: football them all outside of Jacksonville in September.
Speaker 4: Well, how come when it's one hundred and twenty degrees
Speaker 4: out and they're playing in South Florida.
Speaker 5: Nobody ever says that game is supposed to be playing
Speaker 5: in the elements.
Speaker 2: Elements, that is the elements.
Speaker 5: It's awful.
Speaker 2: It's a break, okay, terrible. One of these days I'm
Speaker 2: actually listen, I'm being a hypocrite because I'm excited about
Speaker 2: the new stadium here having a roof over it into
Speaker 2: being in the shade. So I'm a little bit of
Speaker 2: a hypocrite there. However, I did enjoy watching Thursday Night's
Speaker 2: Great Television, Great Team, and I thought it was a
Speaker 2: It was a very interesting game in Pete. I want
Speaker 2: your opinion. I think you'll agree with me. Maybe some
Speaker 2: of the worst game management by Tomlin at the end
Speaker 2: of that game.
Speaker 5: Would you have what would you have done in that scenario?
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I use my timeouts better so
Speaker 2: I'd have more time.
Speaker 5: The timeouts were terrible.
Speaker 4: What would you have done on the would you have
Speaker 4: declined the pedaltryo?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would have too. Here's the other part of it.
Speaker 5: The NFL botched the rule.
Speaker 4: The call because just because the ball touches an offensive
Speaker 4: linement doesn't make it illegal touching. It makes it because
Speaker 4: otherwise you just throw it at an alignment every time
Speaker 4: when you're getting when you're getting pressured, and therefore it
Speaker 4: overrides the They acted like that overrode the intentional grounding.
Speaker 4: If it's intentional grounding gets a loss of down. It's
Speaker 4: fourth down, no matter what. Remember they ruled that it
Speaker 4: was illegal touching.
Speaker 2: So let me tell you why. This is why I
Speaker 2: believe they did that because he got hit. Because he's
Speaker 2: be getting hit and so it impacted the trajectory of
Speaker 2: the football. And so what I'm just.
Speaker 5: Saying, so that that's why they.
Speaker 2: That's the rule. But that is the rule. That's a
Speaker 2: judgment call. If a quarterback's getting hit and it sends
Speaker 2: the ball off, he guys no control, then the intentional
Speaker 2: it's not intentional grounding any loong.
Speaker 4: I agree most of the time, if a guy's getting hit,
Speaker 4: it is not intentional grounding.
Speaker 5: The ball flies somewhere else. He was throwing it there.
Speaker 2: I disagree. I think it's a judgment call. It doesn't matter,
Speaker 2: but it did matter, would have been fourth No, No, he doesn't.
Speaker 2: It's I don't think they broke the rules. My point,
Speaker 2: Steelers gonna win the division. You look at that, You
Speaker 2: look at the Steels schedule, Pete tough. They got a
Speaker 2: tough schedule down the stretch.
Speaker 5: And they're flawed.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, when we think of the Pittsburgh Steels,
Speaker 4: what do you think about run the ball, play good
Speaker 4: defense and pass rush right, yep. They were average four
Speaker 4: yards per carry it going into last week, so they're
Speaker 4: not a great running team. And there's middle of the
Speaker 4: pack in sacks per game, so they're not a great
Speaker 4: pass rushing team. So they don't we know, they don't
Speaker 4: throw it that well, so they're not a great throwing team.
Speaker 2: So what do they do?
Speaker 5: Well, they're well coached, that's what they do.
Speaker 2: Bengals, Browns, Eagles, Ravens, Chiefs, Bengals. That's the Steelers schedule
Speaker 2: the rest of the way.
Speaker 5: And the team nobody wants in is the Bengals. You
Speaker 5: don't want them in.
Speaker 2: Well, no one wants to play them down the stretch either.
Speaker 2: Chiefs over the Panthers thirty to twenty seven. Closer than
Speaker 2: I thought than anybody thought. The Chiefs are flawed.
Speaker 4: Pete very much so. And they they went and got
Speaker 4: a left tackle. DJ Humphreys is coming, so that's good
Speaker 4: for them. They need a left tack.
Speaker 2: How'd they get them?
Speaker 5: Well, he's on the.
Speaker 4: Street because he got a torn acl last year and
Speaker 4: he's now healthy back ready to go, so that's important.
Speaker 5: But they're flawed. You're right, they're not great on they're
Speaker 5: not great in the quarterback position.
Speaker 4: That's been a you know, they had injuries there and
Speaker 4: that's been a concern of theirs.
Speaker 3: Vikings over the Bears, who scored seventeen to fourth quarter
Speaker 3: points to tie the game with no time left on
Speaker 3: a field goal and then lost in overtime to the
Speaker 3: Vikings thirty to twenty seven.
Speaker 5: And Caleb Williams was better, He was much better.
Speaker 2: What happens to Chicago with Everflu's coaching change.
Speaker 4: They make a change. You know, here's the thing about
Speaker 4: the Vikings. The Vikings went out on the road, didn't
Speaker 4: play particularly well in any of those games, starting three
Speaker 4: straight road games.
Speaker 5: That's hard to do in the NFL.
Speaker 4: They went and one at Jacksonville, went and one at Tennessee,
Speaker 4: and then went and one at at Chicago.
Speaker 5: It's hard to do. They did it.
Speaker 2: So what's their record now? Pete eight?
Speaker 5: Yeah, why do I don't think that?
Speaker 2: Why do I get the feeling that it's gonna be
Speaker 2: one and done for them in the playoffs?
Speaker 5: I tend to agree with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's the team everyone wants to play in
Speaker 2: the playoffs. The Vikings line them up.
Speaker 5: You believe in Sam Donald. That's the question.
Speaker 2: That's Tony. Does I know Tony, my guy. Tony's all
Speaker 2: about some Sam Dark Big Sam Donald fan huge. That's
Speaker 2: see baby Big Caleb williamsan too, I see apparently so.
Speaker 2: Titans over the Texans. We've discussed that thirty two to twenty.
Speaker 2: That would surprise me. I did not see that coming.
Speaker 4: Will let us play good except for one stupid pass
Speaker 4: where he got picked.
Speaker 2: Sixth isn't that every week though, Pete.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was this one. But he got eat sacks
Speaker 5: in the first half. His line's really bad, by the way.
Speaker 3: Lions over the Colts twenty four to six. We've discussed that.
Speaker 3: The Dolphins over the Patriots thirty four to fifteen. It
Speaker 3: wasn't even that close. Patriots scored fifty.
Speaker 4: By the way. Let's let's give I'm gonna give to
Speaker 4: us some credit because the guys come back off that injury.
Speaker 5: And he's been outstanding. But now he's got to prove
Speaker 5: a game that we all know.
Speaker 4: The Dolphins are good when they're playing at home or
Speaker 4: playing in the warm weather. But now you got to
Speaker 4: go to Green Bay at Thursday night, it's supposed to
Speaker 4: be snowing.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to imagine that I.
Speaker 4: Don't mind a little bit of snow, because you know
Speaker 4: what that a little bit of snow makes it offensive football.
Speaker 5: I don't mind that.
Speaker 4: But when it's a when it's you can't even see
Speaker 4: the field, that's terrible.
Speaker 3: But they have the anti freeze at Lambeau. It's not
Speaker 3: like you're gonna have snow in the field, Pete. Like
Speaker 3: it's gonna melt off if anti freeze, like through the
Speaker 3: underneath stuff you put in your car.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's a whole system, a warming system under
Speaker 2: the field. So like anti freeze from your so I guess,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't think so so they've had on that field
Speaker 4: in the past.
Speaker 2: I don't think that, let's come back, we.
Speaker 5: Get that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's terrible, how about Pete? People out
Speaker 2: there at least I saw an X and I think
Speaker 2: they're Boston people calling for Jardoe's job already.
Speaker 5: That's it's that's crazy. I mean, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like it wasn't like he was dealt the
Speaker 2: most talented roster either.
Speaker 5: But here's the other thing about it.
Speaker 4: Though he says some things like once I get on
Speaker 4: the field, it's out of my hands, why would you
Speaker 4: even say that, Well.
Speaker 2: You and I would agree with that, Jimmy's and Joe's.
Speaker 2: At that point you call the play. They gotta go
Speaker 2: ask you.
Speaker 5: I know, but you can't say there's certain things that
Speaker 5: are taking it out. You're taking it off yourself.
Speaker 2: That's right and there and JP there's certain things that
Speaker 2: are true, but you still don't say what to the
Speaker 2: press like that, Like Gerard Well, he said, it's like
Speaker 2: out of my hands. You just don't say that, even
Speaker 2: though it's true at some level, right, it just is
Speaker 2: not a good look.
Speaker 5: It is true at some level.
Speaker 4: But then you also the players that people could sit
Speaker 4: there and say, okay, well you didn't get them ready
Speaker 4: to play.
Speaker 2: That's my part. There's a certain things you just there's
Speaker 2: no in it. By the way, according to this NFL
Speaker 2: dot com official website article, in nineteen ninety seven, the
Speaker 2: Packers replaced the coil heating system with a series of
Speaker 2: underground pipes filled with a solution that included andy freeze.
Speaker 5: Well, okay, but there's that. It doesn't mean they can't
Speaker 5: get snow on the on the.
Speaker 2: I didn't make it up, you said it was. I
Speaker 2: didn't make it up, said you? Made it up, he said,
Speaker 2: I said it. I did you.
Speaker 4: You said they don't have snow on the field because
Speaker 4: of that, and you're wrong.
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, but I didn't make it up. Do you
Speaker 2: think is there any other kind? And I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't drive any heavy machinery. I have no idea
Speaker 2: what he puts in his chickhood. No, let's come back.
Speaker 2: We'll go around the rest of the league. What a
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Speaker 3: I'll look around the NFL continues, JP Shadwick, Tony Biselli,
Speaker 3: Pete Priscoe, the Buccaneers over the Giants, who are awful.
Speaker 2: Thirty to seven. The final score are the Bucks for real.
Speaker 2: Let's get Tony's Mike come and Pete. Yeah as Pete,
Speaker 2: can you hear me?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I hear you.
Speaker 2: Who's gonna win the NFC? Sound? I think it's the Bucks?
Speaker 5: I do too. You look at their schedule.
Speaker 4: Their schedule is favorable the rest of the way, and
Speaker 4: they're getting healthy too.
Speaker 5: They're the best team.
Speaker 4: They should have beat the Falcons the first time in Atlanta,
Speaker 4: and then the second time they had played toe to
Speaker 4: toe with him, and they had all those injuries.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think it's the Bucks.
Speaker 3: This is the wildest ending I've seen in a long time.
Speaker 3: Cowboys over the Commanders thirty four, twenty six, And remember
Speaker 3: at halftime it was three to three game.
Speaker 4: Crazy And when you look at it, they allowed the
Speaker 4: Cowboys let the eighty yard touchdown pass with thirty two
Speaker 4: seconds left in the game, and then they missed the
Speaker 4: extra point. But not only that, they gave up a
Speaker 4: two kickover two returns or two touchdowns.
Speaker 2: Bought kicks were two returns? How did the Cowboys give
Speaker 2: up an eighty yard or with thirty seconds.
Speaker 4: He hit McLaurin in the seam and like there were
Speaker 4: about four guys standing there and he just ripped right
Speaker 4: through them on the sideline.
Speaker 5: It was terrible.
Speaker 2: He got one block and then it was down the down,
Speaker 2: the sidelining, and of course they hooked the extra point.
Speaker 2: No good. So the Cowboys are now four and seven,
Speaker 2: and Pete, you said, you think they have they're not
Speaker 2: out of it.
Speaker 5: Well, they beat the Giant, they'll beat the Giants.
Speaker 2: Giants, so they'll be five and seven. They got the Bengals.
Speaker 2: That's a tough one.
Speaker 5: Tough one. Where's that game at?
Speaker 2: Uh it's at home, and they played, but they played
Speaker 2: terrible at home. They're terrible. Are on the road.
Speaker 5: They're not a good team. They're not a good team.
Speaker 5: But go ahead and keep going.
Speaker 2: Who else they have Carolina? That's at Carolina. That's a
Speaker 2: when right, Tampa is a tough one.
Speaker 4: The Tampa Dallas game could end up being one of
Speaker 4: those because the Tampa Dows, the Tampa Atlanta loser could
Speaker 4: also be the last wildcard team.
Speaker 2: And then they got Philly and Washington to finish it.
Speaker 4: I mean, you look at you look at the the West.
Speaker 5: Those two those teams are eating each other alive out there.
Speaker 5: What's going to win the West? In the NFC?
Speaker 2: Well, the leaders are six and five right now, and
Speaker 2: you got the forty nine ers who are struggling and
Speaker 2: beat up. That's a team that's beat up. Jpan, Well,
Speaker 2: I'm just explaining when they're missing you know, their top receiver,
Speaker 2: their best left tackle, their third quarterback.
Speaker 4: McCaffrey missed all year. McCaffrey missed all year, the same
Speaker 4: Ayuk is out for the year.
Speaker 2: Ye. So Seattle in Arizona six and five, leading the
Speaker 2: division rams forty nine and six.
Speaker 4: And the Seattle and Arizona play each other next week.
Speaker 4: Again in Arizona, they played back to back weeks, no
Speaker 4: next the following week. This week is in between. Arizona
Speaker 4: plays at Minnesota. This week Seattle plays at the Jets.
Speaker 2: And right now the forty nine ers are in the
Speaker 2: worst position because they're one and three in the division.
Speaker 4: Well, not only that they play at Buffalo this week.
Speaker 4: It might not have party.
Speaker 2: What's Purdy's injury is his shoulder, throwing shoulder. I think
Speaker 2: so yeah, that's not good, not good.
Speaker 3: Broncos over the Raiders twenty nine to nineteen. Of course,
Speaker 3: I meant you've done for the year, broken collar, bone,
Speaker 3: head to head matchup coming up in a few weeks.
Speaker 4: It wasn't playing very well before he got hurt, and
Speaker 4: who's the uh, who's the star going to be?
Speaker 5: Uh? Desmond Ritter?
Speaker 2: Are we sure about that.
Speaker 5: Unless they go get Daniel Jones or something to playoff this.
Speaker 2: You know who's on that roster as a quarterback? Carter Bradley.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, just a's kid. He's on the roster. Former
Speaker 2: Jacksonville High school kid coach Carter former South Alabama Jaguars,
Speaker 2: South Alabama Jaguar.
Speaker 4: He's on me and Ridter went in it was really bad.
Speaker 4: He's not very good. So who knows. Maybe they'll give
Speaker 4: Carter Bradley a shot, and maybe Carter Bradley can beat
Speaker 4: Jacksonville and ensure that the Jaguars get the number one
Speaker 4: over pick. Then Carter Bradley would be like the all
Speaker 4: time Jacksonville High School heroes.
Speaker 2: Could you imagine when we play the Raiders of Carter
Speaker 2: Bradley's the starting quarterback. Yeah, no, I'm just I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he is. I'm just saying he's on
Speaker 2: the roster the quarterback when he's a kid.
Speaker 5: He's not awful. By the way, who Carter Bradley?
Speaker 3: No, I didn't say it was no Seahawks over the Cardinals.
Speaker 3: Sixteen to six. Eagles beat the Rams of course last
Speaker 3: night thirty seven to twenty.
Speaker 2: There you have it.
Speaker 5: There's a look a one seventh straight. Can you believe
Speaker 5: that they're.
Speaker 2: Hot right now? Who's stopping Saquon?
Speaker 5: Anybody with that offensive line is gonna be hard to do.
Speaker 2: Can they beat the Lions? They're gonna have They're gonna
Speaker 2: have to go to Detroit most likely.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But here's the difference between the Eagles and the Lions.
Speaker 4: The Lion Eagles can rush the pastor when they need to,
Speaker 4: but they did lose Graham.
Speaker 2: Did you see that he looks Graham for the trip.
Speaker 4: I'm not so sure that the Lions can rush the
Speaker 4: passer consistently without Hutchingson. If the Lions had Hutchinson, I
Speaker 4: would think they'd have a real shot to I think
Speaker 4: they'd be the favorite.
Speaker 5: They are the favorite to win it all.
Speaker 2: Did Zadarius Smith give them anything?
Speaker 5: Yeah, he gives them something, But it's not him. That
Speaker 5: ain't him. No, No, I still think the Packers are
Speaker 5: a threat.
Speaker 2: Do you think they are?
Speaker 5: I do.
Speaker 2: I think the NFT title game is going to be
Speaker 2: in Detroit. Eagles Lions. I'll watch that. That's what I
Speaker 2: think I would watch.
Speaker 4: And then you can look at it and say this,
Speaker 4: if you don't call a reel route to a third
Speaker 4: string running back Jacksonville might have ended that streak the
Speaker 4: Eagles had.
Speaker 2: I mean, you could do a lot of ifs and
Speaker 2: butts in that game.
Speaker 4: But Dunstan was an awful team right now, and they
Speaker 4: should have beat the Eagles at Philly.
Speaker 5: It could have beat the Eagles at Philly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, could have not should have? Yeah, they could have.
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 3: Monday Night football and it's a battle of contending teams
Speaker 3: in the AFC. Lamar Jackson, Derek Henry and the Baltimore
Speaker 3: Ravens take the number one offense in the NFL to
Speaker 3: SOFI Stadium in La in a face Justin Herbert and
Speaker 3: the LA Chargers. It's Harble Bowl three. John versus Jim
Speaker 3: John won the first two. Maybe the lights will stay
Speaker 3: on this time. Who you got?
Speaker 2: I think it's it's gonna be a really good game.
Speaker 2: And the Ravens have issues on defense. I think the
Speaker 2: Chargers get this.
Speaker 5: I think the Chargers get it too. I think you're
Speaker 5: gonna get a little loose. Here's the thing about the Chargers.
Speaker 4: They're really little and you know what Derrick Henry's gonna
Speaker 4: do against really little defenses. I mean they're three hundred
Speaker 4: pound three hundred pounders in the middle. They're linebackers that
Speaker 4: are playing the night are to twenty five. I think
Speaker 4: this might be a Derek Henry go wildnife. But I
Speaker 4: do think Herbert's playing out of his mind by the way.
Speaker 4: I think the Chargers find a way to win. I'll
Speaker 4: take the Chargers as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with Pete.
Speaker 3: There you have it, pixer in and you know what, Tony,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take you up on your Thanksgiving up.
Speaker 2: You're gonna come over. I'll tell you, I'm gonna come. I'll
Speaker 2: tell the boss you're coming.
Speaker 5: He wants fried turkey, fried turkey.
Speaker 2: No, he will want the companionship. I mean he wants
Speaker 2: to come hanging. So we're hanging out. Pete gave Jack
Speaker 2: gave I gave.
Speaker 5: Him a little about that. He just blew off his
Speaker 5: other friends that he already agreed to go.
Speaker 2: He said that I can I have a car. I can, Pete.
Speaker 2: I gave JP a little insight on the itinerary of
Speaker 2: the day, and He's like, I'm coming over. I'm in,
Speaker 2: I'm all in, Pete Fellas, Thanksgiving Thanksgiving, guys, Hey, Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: All the Jack fans out there.
Speaker 3: Is Pete Prisco, Tony Macelli, JP Shaddick. Thanks to Joe Fortunato,
Speaker 3: Brent reeber Our entire crew. It's Jaguars Happy Hour
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