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Speaker 1: Here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna actually work backwards.

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Speaker 1: Jay S's like, wait what, that's how what we planned on?

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Speaker 1: Hold on, give me a second, Jason. So the play

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Speaker 1: the end of the Dodgers and Phillies series. As we

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Speaker 2: Heart rates through the room.

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Speaker 3: The old one pitch Pa has grounds it back to Kirkery.

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Speaker 4: He can't find it.

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Speaker 5: He does home.

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Speaker 6: It's why ten stores and the Dodgers are going to

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Speaker 6: the Championship Series. Fireworks to consider field the Dodger celebrate

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Speaker 6: your first base on a ground bull bet to the pitcher.

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Speaker 6: Andy pot has somehow gets the job done.

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Speaker 1: Paz gets the somehow gets the job done. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to the play in a second. First. That's the that's

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Speaker 1: AM five seventy LA Sports, the Dodgers radio network with

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Speaker 1: the call. Here's the Phillies radio network with the exact

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Speaker 1: same call, the.

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Speaker 4: O one swinging a broken back comebacker Kirkering knocks it.

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Speaker 5: Down, picks it up, fris why out. They home to

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Speaker 5: the backstop and the season is over. The Dodgers rushing

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Speaker 5: out passed Orion. Kirkering, who stands with his hands on

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Speaker 1: So I'll get to what our our group text was,

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Speaker 1: because we probably should have hopped on a call because

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Speaker 1: it was weird. First, here's here's a Ryan Kirkering, who

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Speaker 1: made the u this season ending error. He had this

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Speaker 7: How much do you think you can use this kind

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Speaker 7: of in the offseason?

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Speaker 8: Thirty two?

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Speaker 9: You know for good for sure? Yeah the wall with

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Speaker 9: the test wall for sure. But yeah, just kind of

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Speaker 9: keep going with it. Hopefully it started a long career.

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Speaker 9: Just keep back in my head and this really sucks

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Speaker 10: When to get over this.

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Speaker 1: If you watch the game, you saw Rob Thompson, who's

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Speaker 1: the manager of the Phillies, grab kirk Kring before he

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Speaker 1: left the field. Here's what he said, or he said

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Speaker 1: he said to kirk Kring after the game.

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Speaker 11: Rob obviously heartbreaking way to lose.

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Speaker 9: Look to get a long conversation with Oryan coming off

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Speaker 9: the field, do you want to share a little what

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Speaker 12: Just to keep his head up. You know, he just

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Speaker 12: I feel I feel for him because he's he's putting

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Speaker 1: Here's Dave Roberts when he was asked about the final play.

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Speaker 11: What are your feelings when it comes to Ryan Kirkering

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Speaker 13: Oh, it's it's brutal. Obviously they played great defense tonight,

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Speaker 13: he's done it a thousand times and you know, just

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Speaker 1: Do we do we think he forgot the outs on

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Speaker 1: the play? I've heard that I heard Joe Davis say that.

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Speaker 1: I've heard it mentioned by people, but even Kirkering, in

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Speaker 1: the play, his body was clearly in position to throw

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Speaker 1: was that Keith k Ahernanez missed the plate? It was

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Speaker 1: Kim Oh, it was Kim missed the plate. Apologize. So

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Speaker 1: my question is, again this is based upon our group

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Speaker 1: though he came in with two outs. I haven't heard

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Speaker 9: No.

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Speaker 11: We have sound of that running it through edit. Right

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Speaker 11: now he explains that it was indeed not that he

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Speaker 11: after it kicked off his shoe. We had the explanation,

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Speaker 11: it's forthcoming. The Kim missed home plate because nobody in

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Speaker 11: Kim didn't even think to slot.

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Speaker 1: If we are talking about, shouldn't you have had the slide?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, no, no, not have to you should You should

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Speaker 11: so unordinary. Jeff Frankcoor in the moment on the live

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Speaker 11: that play, that's the only explanation.

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Speaker 1: No, I thought the explanation was he bobbled the ball

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Speaker 11: That's his explanation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I think that's a reasonable buyer. You're you're

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Speaker 10: I I thought that he thought that there was one

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Speaker 10: he said. It's just wrong on so many levels to

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Speaker 10: doesn't make any sense. But I thought when the play happened,

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Speaker 1: Here, here's here's the full Orion Kirkland sound. You guys,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I thought, I mean just kind of once the

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Speaker 9: pressure got to me, I just thought it was a

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Speaker 7: So just throw up.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, did you did you hear them calling telling you

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Speaker 11: Or were you just in the moment that it wasn't

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Speaker 9: Just be ready again, any a lot of guys in

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Speaker 9: energy and first one's there, guys say you and that,

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Speaker 9: just keep your head up. It's lost mistake. Just it's

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Speaker 9: good for a long time. They come. It's not my

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Speaker 9: fault done, just that opportunity to score, just a governa.

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Speaker 11: Some rob to be same.

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Speaker 1: What does that said?

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Speaker 12: I mean, you know about those guys picking you up

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Speaker 9: Means a lot and shows they care a lot, just

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Speaker 9: means everything for sure. I'm sure a lot of guys

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Speaker 9: in here I've had moments early in their career you that,

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Speaker 7: You know, how much do you think you can use

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Speaker 9: So too, you know for good for sure. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox portrayer. That's all Ryan

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Speaker 1: kirklands that that was his explanation. Again, I I'm going

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't think you're disagreeing with anything. You asked

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Speaker 1: But now what do you think Now? You think he

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Speaker 1: didn't he lost track outs?

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Speaker 11: Of course that's his that's what he said, that's his explanation.

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Speaker 1: He just said I lost track outs.

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Speaker 11: Said the pressure. He just said that the pressure got

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Speaker 11: to me and I threw home. So I believe him, Yes.

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Speaker 1: But he didn't say that he didn't know how many

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Speaker 11: Never he never said that. That was what we speculated

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Speaker 1: But you still believe that. No, I didn't know the out. Okay,

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Speaker 1: just that's the magic of sports. This is where I understand.

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Speaker 1: I actually had. I had a great conversation with Don Yeger.

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Speaker 1: I have a new podcast out. I think it drops today.

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Speaker 1: Jase Duo knows more about that when it actually drops

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Speaker 1: than I do. And Don Yeger wrote a book called

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Speaker 1: The Science of Momentum. And one of the questions I

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Speaker 1: part of every every business, now, every sports franchise, college sports,

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Speaker 1: as well, we use the analytics company all of these things.

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Speaker 1: But what the data people will tell you is there's

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Speaker 1: no such thing as momentum. Okay, it it always, you know,

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Speaker 1: regresses to the mean. And that's just those are well

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Speaker 1: you feel like momentum. Those are human That the stats,

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Speaker 1: the data doesn't lie, It doesn't take in human emotions.

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Speaker 11: Credit to him, by the way, credit to him for

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Speaker 11: But that throw is so unnatural. You're used to throwing

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Speaker 11: blaming Kim for not sliding right. It's so Matt Holliday

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Speaker 10: And dug in your sport, how many times do we

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Speaker 1: So you just throw up all the time you miss

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Speaker 1: the College World Series, there's just no ability to replicate

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Speaker 1: I think so, no matter how crazy that environment is

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Speaker 2: Next year Dodger Stadium. Yeah, nothing you can do.

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Speaker 1: And so guys can be the coolest there is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: is in any conversation, unbelievable athletes. The number one draft

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Speaker 1: We've talked about this. Baseball has two completely different seasons,

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Speaker 1: and it'll be a zoo. But you can't replicate last night,

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Speaker 1: I love October baseball.

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Speaker 1: We give you one pick. This one pick is the

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Speaker 1: to our Jays Dude team parlay with Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Doug.

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Speaker 11: I'll take it from here.

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Speaker 14: I'll take it.

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Speaker 11: I need you guys to rush to the beding window

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Speaker 11: for this one. Rush to the beding window because the

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Speaker 11: game starts here in about three hours. South Florida visits

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Speaker 11: North Texas. This is a game South Florida. This is

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Speaker 1: North Denton, Texas.

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Speaker 11: I've got so many voices on my head. I have

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Speaker 11: the the actual singer, I've got the fake singer, and

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Speaker 11: I've got Sam. So if i don't respond to any

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Speaker 11: You and lebron No, just my deafness, the disability that

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Speaker 11: There Fresno State. Just a memo to you, Trent Dilfer

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Speaker 11: not coming through that door tonight, Colorado State, South Florida

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Speaker 11: jaystud Team Parlay, thank you, Thank me. On Monday, dan By,

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Speaker 11: one of the.

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Speaker 10: Cardinal sins of a gambler is to show their hands,

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Speaker 10: and Iowa, Sam was on to me earlier. You were

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Speaker 10: on to me earlier, Doug. I kind of showed my

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Speaker 10: While all things, all things are in line for the

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Speaker 7: By the way, guys, how cringey is that commercial where

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Speaker 7: In other words, I was trying to recreate that thank you,

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Speaker 7: a hair over twenty one point favorites here, three touchdown favorites.

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Speaker 2: H new end run, Doug, what you got?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to the NFL this weekend instead of

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Speaker 1: I think they're dealing with good momentum. I know it's

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Speaker 1: like Jacksonville straight up, straight up, and I'm getting a

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Speaker 1: point and a half. Give me the Jaguars, Jacks, These

437
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Speaker 1: jaguars not always in the shop.

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Speaker 3: He goes, let's say no when the whole when loud,

439
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Speaker 3: not walk away.

440
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Speaker 2: You never a money.

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Speaker 3: Time and the count.

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Speaker 1: At least no, no, no, no, Cotton Bowl Doug Gottlieb

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Speaker 1: Show here on Fox Sports Radio. You can see him

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Speaker 1: on Big Noon Kickoff tomorrow. Of course he's got his

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Speaker 1: bear Bets podcast. He's one only. Chris Felika, Fox Sports

446
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Speaker 1: betting analyst, the host of the bear Bets podcast, joins

447
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Speaker 1: us in the Doug Gotlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.

448
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Speaker 1: I think that was Jay su ju is all over

449
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Speaker 1: this North Texas game, right? That was that Jay stew

450
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Speaker 1: That was your your pick early South Florida, North Texas. Uh,

451
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Speaker 1: the Mean Green at home? My lean is the Mean

452
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Speaker 1: Green to add a home South Florida. Everybody's darling after

453
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Speaker 1: two big wins. Of course they got smashed by Miami.

454
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Speaker 1: Do you have a lean with the Mean Green getting

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Speaker 1: two and a half lay in two and a half, it.

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Speaker 8: Feels like a higher scoring game just because South Florida

457
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Speaker 8: goes so fast. Could be an up and down the

458
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Speaker 8: field type of a type of game. Yeah, North Texas

459
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Speaker 8: is certainly there were a team that got a little

460
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Speaker 8: bit of like under the radar I type love is

461
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Speaker 8: a trendy pick and that conference to win. And just

462
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Speaker 8: because of the start that the Bulls had, people have

463
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Speaker 8: kind of gotten off their set a little bit, but

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Speaker 8: they kind of reverse things tonight and you can pick

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Speaker 8: up a winn. I think a lot more about people.

466
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Speaker 8: More people might be talking about the mean Green I'm

467
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Speaker 8: not gonna play it, will I will be watching. Feels

468
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Speaker 8: like a higher scoring game, but it is.

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Speaker 1: A very high number to go over, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into some of the big games the weekend.

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Speaker 1: My game that I actually am most interested in, uh,

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Speaker 1: is not the red River game Stott Ohio State Illinois.

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Speaker 1: It's not the SEC game. It's Oregon hosting Indiana, Oregon

474
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Speaker 1: hosting in the I mean I. Of course, we all

475
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Speaker 1: knew when the Big Ten combined with the Pac twelve schools,

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Speaker 1: this would be the big matchup. I'm kidding.

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Speaker 8: Clearly, absolutely, the Hoosiers a football program is going to emerge,

478
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Speaker 8: and the Oregon would it would emerge as the second

479
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Speaker 8: best team in the Big Ten. Clearly we all knew that.

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Speaker 8: It is interesting though, because not only at Austin, but

481
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Speaker 8: also in Como this week. You over the last couple

482
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Speaker 8: of years, UH, the two best home records in the

483
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Speaker 8: country you have been Oregon and Missouri. And you got

484
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Speaker 8: Missouri as a small home dog, and then you got

485
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Speaker 8: Oregon in a top ten matchup this week, But I

486
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Speaker 8: like Oregon in this game. I think there's been a

487
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Speaker 8: little bit of an overreaction to Penn State losing Ucla.

488
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Speaker 8: A couple week ago. Everyone's like, oh, Oregon, they might

489
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Speaker 8: be the best team in the country. Now they went

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Speaker 8: to Penn State and won, won in the white Out,

491
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Speaker 8: and now because Penn State lost to Ucla, everyone's like,

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Speaker 8: I don't know, you might have to rethink zero's about Oregon.

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Speaker 8: If you think that the Penn State that showed up

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Speaker 8: the same night as the wide Out, it's the same

495
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Speaker 8: team that showed up in front of six thousand at

496
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Speaker 8: the Rose Ball last week. Same team. Your way off face.

497
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Speaker 8: This is an Oregon team that doesn't allow teams to run.

498
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Speaker 8: They're really good on both sides. The ball up front

499
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Speaker 8: and them find line of scrimmage and Indiana the last

500
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Speaker 8: couple of years. You look at last year when they

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Speaker 8: won on the road against Notre Dame in the playoffs

502
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Speaker 8: and against Ohio State in the regular season. The offense

503
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Speaker 8: did nothing and the offense didn't do anything. A couple

504
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Speaker 8: of weeks ago, kn't of either thirty had thirteen points

505
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Speaker 8: on the board until final minut and a half two

506
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Speaker 8: minutes of the game. I scored thirty two points in

507
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Speaker 8: those two games. Last year three and a half yards

508
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Speaker 8: of play. Didn't score a touchdown on Notre Dame until

509
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Speaker 8: a minute and a half to go in the game

510
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Speaker 8: thirty one to seven. Last year Ohio State before they

511
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Speaker 8: scored again. Whatever the reason is, it hasn't traveled on

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Speaker 8: the road against good teams. So we'll see. I think

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Speaker 8: Oregon comes out with chip on the shoulder and they

514
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Speaker 8: get a big win here.

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Speaker 1: Ioways State got clipped by Cincinnati on the road. They

516
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Speaker 1: got down big and couldn't come back. I'm actually stunned

517
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Speaker 1: that Colorado is only a two and a half point

518
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Speaker 1: dog at home. See You has not looked like one

519
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Speaker 1: of the top teams in the Big in the Big twelve,

520
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Speaker 1: and then you have Dion with his health issues. Iowa

521
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Speaker 1: State's a two and a half point favorite on the

522
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Speaker 1: road at Colorado. Fifty one and a half's the total?

523
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Speaker 1: Am I crazy to love Iowa stating this pick?

524
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Speaker 8: I think you are crazy because I actually liked see

525
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Speaker 8: You and I grabbed See You plus three. Iowa States

526
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Speaker 8: got a bunch of injuries in the secondary. They allowed

527
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Speaker 8: a eight yards of play last week against Cincinnati. And

528
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Speaker 8: if Colorado doesn't turn theling it, it's a massive diff

529
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Speaker 8: you know they If I had you don't want to,

530
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Speaker 8: I'd be a queen.

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Speaker 1: Had a parent, you know what, she'd be the king.

532
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: If I had two heads, I'd be in the circus.

533
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Speaker 8: Got it exactly. But Salter, uh see you could have

534
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 8: beaten BYU. See you one last week as well against

535
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Speaker 8: TCU late touchdown, get a bad beat if you had

536
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Speaker 8: CU last week. If Salton doesn't turn the ball over,

537
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Speaker 8: I think they have an opportunity to put up some

538
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Speaker 8: points here on the board. Iowa States a team I

539
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 8: think we all got a little high August. They won

540
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Speaker 8: a couple of coin flip games and they won the

541
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Speaker 8: sidehawk game, and it wanted to they want and double

542
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Speaker 8: it against k State and I don't know. Look, I

543
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Speaker 8: am a massive Iowa State supporter, but I think see

544
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Speaker 8: You plus the points and might be the right side.

545
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Speaker 1: Red River rivalry OEU Texas feels like Matier is gonna play.

546
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: Also feels like Texas just disappointing. But in what this

547
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: is one of those games where sometimes things flip. Sooners

548
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: are a point favorite. Totals forty four and a half.

549
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: Looks like a hot day and big date.

550
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 8: I'm not sure about Matier playing, and even if he does,

551
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 8: Hali effect, he's gonna remember earlier this year coaches love

552
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 8: to manipulate this. This injury report. You had Lane down

553
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 8: an all and miss, kind of saying Auton Simmons, Oh, yeah,

554
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 8: he's he's probable on the injury. Then he didn't play.

555
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 8: He had a couple of years ago in the Red

556
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 8: River game when oh you pulled the charade about about

557
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 8: Dylan Gabriel who got a concussion the previous week, and

558
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 8: all week long by my guys would say, he's not play,

559
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 8: He's not playing, he's not playing. And then good morning

560
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 8: of the games. He everyone sees him out there and

561
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 8: going through the warm up with the helmet on and

562
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Speaker 8: full UNI and everyone said, oh see he's out there,

563
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 8: he's gonna play. And then he comes out in shorts

564
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 8: and T shirt, doesn't play. So I think there's a

565
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 8: bit of gamesman ship going on here. I even as

566
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 8: actually have quitted this the line from the Natural about yeah,

567
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Speaker 8: Roy Hobbs, Yeah, but I don't want to play and

568
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 8: find good Yeah, with his inside he's is valuable too.

569
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Speaker 8: With swed in the lineup is out of the lineup,

570
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Speaker 8: and we're got twenty thousand dollars. Ritcher, I think if

571
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 8: if the tier plays like Texas defense, you know they're

572
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 8: just gonna be gunning for his hand every single play.

573
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Speaker 8: So I don't know. I like Texas here plus plus

574
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 8: the up point, I like him. I basically to win

575
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Speaker 8: the game. Uh. I think last week how poor their

576
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 8: defense was was alarming. But this is also an Oklahoma

577
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Speaker 8: offense that really is kind of middling in terms of

578
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 8: yards for play when you take into account for a

579
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 8: schedule adjustment. Kind of a kind of a good spot

580
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Speaker 8: here to catch Texas now with the line is flipped.

581
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Speaker 1: Okay, you mentioned Alabama. They're a three point favorite at

582
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Speaker 1: Missouri totals fifty one and a half. This an Alabama

583
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: team that look last couple of weeks, has looked really,

584
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: really good. But at some point, like do you get

585
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: worn down by by Georgia, Vanderbilt and now Missouri on

586
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Speaker 1: the road before you get Tennessee and South Carolina before

587
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Speaker 1: you get a wake up, you just hit it.

588
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 8: Right on the head with the at the nation's longest

589
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 8: home winning straight. You get revenge from losing it as

590
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Speaker 8: a twenty three and a half point dog last year.

591
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Speaker 8: Now you got to go to a fresh Missouri team

592
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 8: was awful bye, And we don't know how good Missouri is.

593
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 8: But you know the adage of ball like revenge and

594
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 8: teams and how much that's a an incentive and a

595
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 8: motivating and I'm sure you've been on the on the

596
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 8: losing side of a lot of a lot of games,

597
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 8: and you couldn't wait for the opportunity to get a

598
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 8: little bit of revenge next year. And I went back

599
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 8: and look, well, last year was thirty four to h

600
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Speaker 8: at Alabama. Drew Pye replaced an injured Brady Cook through

601
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Speaker 8: three picks, and I went back and looked just to

602
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Speaker 8: see if I was completely off base in it to

603
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Speaker 8: come back. Last twenty five years ranked teams that were

604
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Speaker 8: lost by more than thirty points at a shutout loss

605
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Speaker 8: with they have the opportunity venue in the following year.

606
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Speaker 8: There have been eight instances in the last twenty five years.

607
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Speaker 8: Five of the eight one out right, two lost by

608
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Speaker 8: a field goal, and one wound up losing to Alabama,

609
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Speaker 8: which wound up winning the national championship that year. So

610
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Speaker 8: it doesn't happen often, but when it does happen, there

611
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 8: is something to kind of and you know, Eli Dregwitz

612
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 8: and that staff is going to have that fall out

613
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 8: at the mouth Alabama a lot two hundred and thirty

614
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 8: yards on the out to Florida State by two thirty

615
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 8: on the brown to Georgia. Uh, with Hardy and Probola.

616
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 8: Do it for a guy. I think it's a great

617
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Speaker 8: spot in Como for an upset tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: in for the games actually kickoff.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: You're you're the best. Have a great Saturday. We'll see

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Speaker 1: on TV. Thanks for being our guest.

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Speaker 8: You do the same dog you will.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's bring in buyer, Buyer. Any concern about your

628
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Speaker 1: Buckeyes taking on Illinois.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean there's there's concern no matter how big

630
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Speaker 10: of a favorite that you are. A road game.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

632
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Speaker 10: Julian Saying's second career start on the road, that could

633
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Speaker 10: always be a question but he's been brilliant so far.

634
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Speaker 10: I expect Ohio State to win, but there's always a

635
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Speaker 10: bit of of hesitation for sure.

636
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Speaker 1: You know, one of the games that I I was

637
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Speaker 1: thinking about it is the Oklahoma State game. They're taken

638
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: on Houston and they're a big home dog. But part

639
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: of it is, you know, they're down to a walk

640
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: on quarterback because they lost their top two quarterbacks and

641
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: they've had two or three of their best players put

642
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: themselves in the portal this week. It's like they're at

643
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Speaker 1: home against Houston, who has been okay. The other four

644
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: to one fairly solve schedule, been okay. But there's so

645
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Speaker 1: many of these. Yeah, No, they get destroyed by Tech Tech.

646
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Speaker 1: First of all, Texas Tech guys is like a thirty

647
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Speaker 1: million dollar team. So a lot of teams that get

648
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Speaker 1: destroyed by Texas Tech. Okay, they're really really really really good,

649
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: really good, and we're not. Oklahoma State is really not good.

650
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Speaker 7: Thirty five to eleven isn't a a destruction. No, No,

651
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 7: on the road, that's a good win.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 7: I was said, Texas Tech is really good. That's what

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Speaker 7: I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: No, Texas Tech is legit.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 1: They went and beat Utah at Utah, and I think

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Speaker 1: everyone can. If there's a team from the Big twelve

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Speaker 1: that could compete nationally based upon personnel, and and that

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Speaker 1: personnel is because of the money they spent, it's Texas Tech.

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Speaker 10: I still go back to Brett Yormark's comments at Big

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Speaker 10: twelve Media Day when saying when they were talking about

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Speaker 10: the formats of the playoffs and why they were siding

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Speaker 10: with a like a five plus eleven model that the

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Speaker 10: SEC was pushing for as opposed to like the four

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Speaker 10: plus four plus two. You know, YadA YadA, YadA any

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Speaker 10: any any said that like he believes in the schools

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Speaker 10: in the future, and I think he was.

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Speaker 2: He was talking about Texas Tech like.

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Speaker 10: Of being that school of in this world of college

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Speaker 10: football right now, or of the arms race and the

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Speaker 10: wallet race. Maybe that Texas Tech is going to be

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Speaker 10: well equipped to compete.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll be well equipped to compete.

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Speaker 10: I think that's what that's like when we look at

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Speaker 10: them and we're like, aw, where are their good team teams?

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Speaker 10: I think his point is Texas Tech is going to

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Speaker 10: be spending money, they are going to be like this

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Speaker 10: is this is the arrival of Texas Tech and that

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Speaker 10: they won't be going anywhere for a while.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Texas Tech. I think BYU. But he

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Speaker 1: says they have the money, although most of that's in basketball,

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Speaker 1: and you know Ryan Smith is putting it in basketball.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know if they have enough teams. I mean,

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Speaker 1: part of it is just size of alumni. You know,

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Speaker 1: you have and type of alumni. But the Oakland State,

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Speaker 1: when you got Oaklhand State, you got Virginia Tech, you

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Speaker 1: have UCLA going on the road to Michigan State after

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Speaker 1: their gigantic win against Penn State. What does that look

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Speaker 1: like like? This is a These guys still have days

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Speaker 1: in which they can enter the portal.

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: It's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Quick Update, guys,

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Speaker 1: Uh Buyer, I don't are you a Chipotle guy Buyer.

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Speaker 2: I've never been to Chipotle real, Sammy. I love Chipotle

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Speaker 2: above q Doba.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 7: You know, I had Kidoba at the airport.

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Speaker 8: It was good.

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Speaker 7: I just haven't had enough of it to really like

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Speaker 7: equate it to Chipotle, but very similar. I mean, I

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Speaker 7: guess I just did, right there.

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Speaker 1: A new dipping sauce for Chipotle, Chimmy Cheery sauce. Chimmy

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Speaker 1: Cheery sauce. Just if you're if you're driving and you're

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Speaker 1: listening to us and you're like, oh, Chipoli sounds kind

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Speaker 1: of good. You're getting thumbs up from Godly and the

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Cheries. Okay, just for people who want to know,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'll be anybody's canary in the canary in the

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Speaker 1: coal mine. Let's welcome in. Mark Dominic course, he was

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Speaker 1: a he's a former general manager of the Tampa Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: He worked his entire professional life in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: And what's your reaction to the Giants thumping the Eagles

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Speaker 1: last night?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, something's right. Dan's never been to Chipotle. I mean,

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Speaker 14: that's a big story than the Eagles, I think. But

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Speaker 14: I think it's just kind of a shock that, you know,

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Speaker 14: we saw I think the Jews and I think it

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Speaker 14: really it spoke volumes when we watched it, when Jackson

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Speaker 14: Dart went under the shed and had to kind of

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Speaker 14: get a doctor's opinion, and you could see just how

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Speaker 14: Brian day Ball was pacing because he knew this is

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Speaker 14: the reason why we're going to have a chance to win.

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Speaker 14: This is what's gonna work. And just to concern that

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Speaker 14: they had it wasn't he wasn't going to be back.

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Speaker 14: You could tell how important it's been to have Jackson

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Speaker 14: Dartist a quarterback and how much I think it gave

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Speaker 14: the hope in the aspirations of this Giants team that's

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Speaker 14: saying a lot of things have gone wrong, but this

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Speaker 14: is going right and they found their guy.

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Speaker 1: Does it? Does it last?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 2: Like the new guy?

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Speaker 1: I mean, even we look at backups in years past,

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Speaker 1: we all have one, right, we all have one guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean famously Don Mkowski here in in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: You pick it. Young guys can come in because you

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Speaker 1: don't have a scout on him. They have great energy,

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Speaker 1: they think they're supposed to win every game. You watched

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Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks in the NFL. Does this last?

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Speaker 14: I think it lasts in terms of the way he

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Speaker 14: makes decisions, the way he plays. I don't think it

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Speaker 14: can last. Honestly, Doug, by the way he runs, that's

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Speaker 14: not going to happen. I mean, you know the nick

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Speaker 14: he took last night to have to you know, go

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Speaker 14: see potentially a concussion doctor or whatever that was, and

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Speaker 14: then to watch him turn around and calls a number,

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Speaker 14: and the way he finishes and runs at this level,

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Speaker 14: he will not make it a whole season. He can't.

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Speaker 14: They're too physical at this level and it's going to

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Speaker 14: be too many hits, and so he's got to learn

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Speaker 14: how to run better. But I think in terms of

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Speaker 14: throwing the ball, some of the throws he made his

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Speaker 14: decision making those things look real, and I don't think

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Speaker 14: that's just an anomaly. I think that's a real thing.

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Speaker 14: So it's about him learning how to slide or when

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Speaker 14: to you know, kind of give up on a run

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Speaker 14: is going to be the more important thing that I

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Speaker 14: think it's going to be worrying about. Can you do

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Speaker 14: this again next week?

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Speaker 1: Cam Scataboo so sax State, Arizona State two years ago.

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Speaker 1: He had some good games in Arizona State. Last year

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Speaker 1: awesome games at Arizona State. But doesn't have a lot

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Speaker 1: of the tangibles, so he doesn't go high in the draft.

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Speaker 1: But after that, now the the intangibles take over. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: last night was a great night in New York, but

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Speaker 1: we've seen Tommy DeVito as a backup quarterback, does Cam

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Speaker 1: scadbook Can he last the way he's running the football?

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Speaker 14: I think he can. You know, he plays with great balance,

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Speaker 14: and I think that's the thing when you think of

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Speaker 14: running backs that can really play at this level. He

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Speaker 14: takes hits, but can keep his feet moving and keep

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Speaker 14: moving forward and not fall down easily. And I think

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Speaker 14: that's that's that hidden thing functional football strength. You know,

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Speaker 14: we can talk about the weight room in the two

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Speaker 14: twenty five and how many reps a player did, but

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Speaker 14: then there's another thing to watch as you think about

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Speaker 14: functional football strength, and that works for every position in

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Speaker 14: the NFL, but for running back it shows it pretty good.

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Speaker 14: It's the guy that you know falls forward or you know,

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Speaker 14: bounces off one little tackle to be able to get

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Speaker 14: four or five more yards in a carry. I know

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Speaker 14: he was a couple of yards short of one hundred,

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Speaker 14: but I mean right now he's averaging over four yards

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Speaker 14: of carry in the NFL. And the way he runs

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Speaker 14: gets me pretty excited about just how fucking physically he

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Speaker 14: is and just that he turns the ball up field.

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Speaker 14: He's not looking to dance around, but he also catches

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Speaker 14: the ball really well out of the backfield. So I

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Speaker 14: think this is a nice fine for the Giants. You know,

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Speaker 14: you feel like this would have been a Shanahan find

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Speaker 14: based off of how good he's been able to do

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Speaker 14: and find running backs over his career. But this one's

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Speaker 14: won for the Giants and it's a good feather in

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Speaker 14: the cap because I think he's the real deal.

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with Eagles.

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Speaker 14: I think there's a lot of individuals going on right now.

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Speaker 14: I don't think it's Saquon Barkley. I think Jalen Hurts,

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Speaker 14: this is playing marginal. I feel like the offensive line

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Speaker 14: isn't holding up as well as they did last year.

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Speaker 14: I feel like they're missing a lot of players on defense,

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Speaker 14: the secondary. I know Ringo had you know, good moments

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Speaker 14: and tough moments last night, but he's getting good reps

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Speaker 14: as a second year first tim to start. I think

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Speaker 14: that's big for Ringo. But I think they missed some

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Speaker 14: of the veterans that they had out there. And I

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Speaker 14: think some of the younger guys, whether it's jayalax Hunt

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Speaker 14: or something like that, who's just not able to get

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Speaker 14: home right now. I think that's the big thing. They're

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Speaker 14: not getting enough pressure on the quarterback consistently. And to me,

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Speaker 14: that's the big difference of the Eagles this year is

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Speaker 14: that they're just not able to do that and because

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Speaker 14: of that, drives or extended drives are taking longer, as

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Speaker 14: you know, and I think that's a big piece of

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Speaker 14: what's kind of wearing them down a little bit. I mean,

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Speaker 14: this is a team that, yeah, you know, they're leading.

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Speaker 14: I think pass rusher are both their defensive tackles. That's

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Speaker 14: that's the problem with the Eagles right now, is they're

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Speaker 14: not getting pressure off the edge.

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Speaker 1: Is that a Is that a talent thing or is

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Speaker 1: it an experienced thing.

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Speaker 14: I think it's an experience thing. And I say that

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Speaker 14: because I do think Jalox Hunt is going to continue

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Speaker 14: to get better as we watch him, you know, miss

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Speaker 14: and Jalen Carter out there also is a huge piece.

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Speaker 14: And so him sitting on the sideline last night doesn't

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Speaker 14: help the Eagles front at all as well. But I

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Speaker 14: do think it's Jalox Hunt is going to be a

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Speaker 14: big piece of what they've got to do and get

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Speaker 14: him confidence and he's I think they're going to come

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Speaker 14: in bunches when it comes. But right now, he's just

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Speaker 14: been rushing as far, but he's not getting all the

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Speaker 14: way home. I think he will, but I think it

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Speaker 14: also means to get Jalen Carter out there to help

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Speaker 14: you take some pressure off it and then him have

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Speaker 14: one of those more of those one on one.

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Speaker 1: Rushes Doug Gottlieb Show. Here on Fox Sports Radio, Mark

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Speaker 1: Domini's our guest course, former general manager Tampay Buccaneers joins

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Speaker 1: us every week and gives us a real GM front

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Speaker 1: office scouting perspective on the National Football League. What was

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Speaker 1: your reaction to Joe Flacco, who was demoted to be

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Speaker 1: in a backup after Dylan Gabriel got the start last

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Speaker 1: week getting a mid season trade in Division in Ohio

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Speaker 1: to the Bengals.

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Speaker 14: You know, as soon as when the Bengals lost this

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Speaker 14: last game, I thought, there's just no way the Brown

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Speaker 14: family is going to sit there and throw number one.

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Speaker 14: They're frugal and rightfully so. However they want to handle

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Speaker 14: their business, they can handle their business. But they spent

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Speaker 14: so much money in this offseason. I knew that the

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Speaker 14: Brown family isn't just going to sit on their hands

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Speaker 14: and go, well, we'll just see what happens in twenty

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Speaker 14: twenty six, not with this roster, not with you know,

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Speaker 14: Trey Hendrickson possibly or probably leaving. They need to put

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Speaker 14: something together, and they look at this division and they're going,

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Speaker 14: wait a second, the Ravens are struggling, yet Pittsburgh's had

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Speaker 14: a good start in Cleveland's struggling. We can still get

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Speaker 14: in this thing, and we can still get the nine

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Speaker 14: wins and possibly ten wins, and so what do we

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Speaker 14: do see? You know, I thought you got to call

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Speaker 14: Kirk Cousins or Atlanta. I think you could call Davis Mills.

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Speaker 14: I was thinking about him a little bit that I

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Speaker 14: still think there's some potential with him. But you know,

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Speaker 14: it was easy when Joe Flackle got bench. You just

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Speaker 14: go with the older veteran quarterback who is going to

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Speaker 14: come in, learn the playbook quickly and be able to

868
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Speaker 14: go out there and execute. And so I think it

869
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 14: was the right movement. I think it was the right

870
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 14: move for both clubs. Look to Cleveland. Browns is now

871
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 14: traded away Kenny Pickett and Joe Flackell, So good for them.

872
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 14: They're getting some collateral even though they're putting quarterbacks in

873
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 14: other people's divisions.

874
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: That said, Chador is going to be the backup. So

875
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: you have a rookie starter and a rookie backup. How

876
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: much leash do you give Dylan Gabriel when you got

877
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: a rookie behind him?

878
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 14: I think a lot, right, Doug. I think you really

879
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 14: let Gabriel kind of see how well he can go.

880
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 14: And I think that's for weeks. Even if he goes

881
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 14: you know, zero touchdowns, three interceptions, you don't pull the

882
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 14: trigger too quick. They both hopefully will get real time

883
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 14: this year to kind of get a sense of are

884
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 14: they ones or twos or threes? And I think that

885
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 14: still can happen. But right now, I give him a

886
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 14: longer leash, like at least a month of games to

887
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 14: say what can he do? Because you know, they drafted

888
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 14: him before Shauduer for a reason and they feel like,

889
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 14: you know, he's got the potential, and they certainly have

890
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 14: spoke well of him in terms of his locker room

891
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 14: presence and what the team responds to him, so they've

892
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 14: said the right things to say. Look, they want to

893
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 14: give this guy longer leash, so I would expect that.

894
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 14: And if he goes h to two, I think he's

895
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 14: got a chance to go three to four before I

896
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 14: think they make a move.

897
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: The Baltimore Rams are struggling. Lamar Jackson still looks like

898
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: he's out. They do have a bye week coming up.

899
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: When is the moment that they waive we know about

900
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: the division, right, that division can be had. But they

901
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: got the Rams, Okay, then bye week, then Bears, then

902
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: they go. Then they got three games in a row

903
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: on the road, granted not three great teams, Dolphins, Vikings.

904
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: When is the point that the Ravens go, yeah, this

905
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: might not.

906
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 10: Be our year.

907
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, I think there's a good chance to

908
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 14: go one in five to start the year, Which is

909
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 14: crazy that you would think that the Baltimore Ravens. When

910
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 14: I thought those are the Buffalo Bills, I thought would

911
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 14: be the team that would be hosting the Lamar Hunt Trophy.

912
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 14: But you know, we're sitting here and I think they

913
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 14: lose to the Rams this week. But I do agree

914
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 14: with I think one bye week, a self scouting Harba,

915
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 14: Lamar Jackson should be back. But when you look at it,

916
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 14: one in five, but it goes Bears, Dolphins, Vikings, Browns, Jets, Bengals, Steelers, Bengals, Patriots.

917
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 14: I mean, you could make an argument that they could

918
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 14: win every one of those games. Now, the way they're playing,

919
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 14: they probably wouldn't. But they've lost to Buffalo, Detroit, Kansas City,

920
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 14: and then lost to Houston without Lamar Jackson. So if

921
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 14: not like they're losing to bad teams. The only smothered

922
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 14: to Cleveland Brown. So I think this team just needs

923
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 14: to get to the bye week. But I think they're

924
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 14: going to rattle off a bunch of victories and put

925
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 14: themselves back in the postseason. So I would still say

926
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 14: I think the Ravens make the postseason.

927
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, what was New England's win more about New

928
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 1: England or about Buffalo?

929
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 14: I thought it was more about New England. I think

930
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 14: it was a huge culture movement that's going on there

931
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 14: to be able to win that game. It just goes

932
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,479
Speaker 14: again to show what you know, coach has been able

933
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 14: to do with you know, Coach Rabel's been able to

934
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 14: do with maybe less talent. He did it where I

935
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 14: live here in Nashville for years, and I think a

936
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 14: lot of people are like, Ah, he's not that good

937
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 14: of a coach, and then they pull them away and suddenly,

938
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 14: you know, Titans can't get out of their own shadow,

939
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 14: and you know, the GM that was with him. John

940
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 14: Robinson great guy, but there wasn't There were some misses

941
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 14: in the draft. Picks and first rounders didn't come through,

942
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 14: even for coach Rabel here in Nashville. And so I

943
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 14: think he's just showing that I can build a winning

944
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 14: tradition of winning culture. That was a huge win for

945
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 14: the New England Patriots, just to kind of build morale

946
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 14: within the organization. And again, this is a team I

947
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 14: didn't think it was going to be good enough. I

948
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 14: know a lot of people have them as like the

949
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 14: turnaround team of twenty twenty five, but you start to

950
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 14: look at their schedule to Saints Titan's next three weeks,

951
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 14: they can really do some damage.

952
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: Right now, Kansas City looks better. Big game against Detroit

953
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: coming in over seven yards of play? Where are you

954
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: on on Kansas City? And uh, if they're if, I mean,

955
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: I look at you lose to Jacksonville. I think Jackson's

956
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: pretty good. But I did think the offense woke up

957
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: last week. On the other hand, you know the defense

958
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: of Chris Jones not getting not getting Trevor Lawrence down

959
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: has been a big kind of controversy in Kansas City.

960
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: Where are your thoughts on Kansas City welcoming in the Lions.

961
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, I love the Chiefs, but I just

962
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 14: think Detroit off the edge is going to be too

963
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 14: much trouble for him. And I think the offensive line

964
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 14: for the Chiefs is going to show up a little

965
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 14: bit more this week where it's going to be a problem.

966
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 14: So I like Detroit in this game, even though it's

967
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 14: hard to imagine the Chiefs being two and four, But

968
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 14: I just feel like the Chiefs are a good football

969
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 14: team that will again, I think, find their way to

970
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 14: the postseason. I still don't think they're going to win

971
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 14: their division for the first time in forever, it feels like.

972
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 14: But I think the Detroit defensively is going to be

973
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 14: too much for Kansas City offensively, and I think because

974
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 14: of that, and again, when you look at the Kansity defense,

975
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 14: the one thing you want to see is more speed,

976
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 14: and they don't have a ton of speed on the

977
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 14: Kansity defense. They're technically sound that they're not fast. They're

978
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 14: more physical, and I think Detroit has a fairly fast team,

979
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 14: so I think both sides kind of match up for Detroit.

980
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 14: So I like Detroit this game.

981
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: Awesome stuff as always Mark, have a great weekend. We'll

982
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 1: talk to you next week. Always love your insight, Doug.

983
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 14: Thanks for having me on. Enjoy your weekend.

984
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 10: I don't know if I'll try the new chimney cherry sauce, Doug.

985
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 10: You know I like things playing, but uh yeah, if

986
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 10: I do go to Chipotle, I'll definitely try to get

987
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 10: some chicken and rice back to you.

988
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: There you go, chicken, rice and all things. That's all.

989
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: It's all Hayes gets. My son, Hayes, he does the

990
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 1: He just does a bowl with chicken and rice.

991
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 7: No cheese, Dan, No, no, no, definitely no peppers.

992
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: No, not gonna happy.

993
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 7: I do everything everything, corn, cheese, sour cream, let us

994
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 7: all of it. Is it straight corner? Do they put

995
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 7: the peppers in the know, it's just white corn that's

996
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 7: been Yeah.

997
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: They put a little they put a little something in

998
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: little not not the peppery season, A little little season

999
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 1: in in there. Yeah, a little something something. That's what

1000
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it is. Yes, us thinking I'm thinking

1001
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 1: too much, but I was thinking about like the change

1002
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: from when we were kids, right, And when we were kids,

1003
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: it was like McDonald's was the ultimate prize, right and

1004
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: treat and McDonald's fries still the goat. But yeah, I mean,

1005
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: I would say that Dan is in a small percentile

1006
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: of people that have not tried Chipotle, and Mark Dominic

1007
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: obviously trying to get that. Everybody's trying to get that

1008
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: free Chipotle card, you know that that celebs get who's

1009
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: who's not trying to get that