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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, and I ghosted.

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Speaker 1: As Nanda's police. Hey boo, it's me Ras and welcome

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Speaker 1: to Ghosted by Raz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk

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Speaker 1: to people that I like about the paranormal. This week,

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Speaker 1: back on the show. Before we get to that, I

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Speaker 1: was looking through my email and I found this story

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Speaker 1: that isn't really that spooky, but whatever, we gotta we

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Speaker 1: gotta go over this one. Okay, this one comes from Abigail.

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Speaker 1: Abigail writes Hi Roz about a year ago, my boyfriend

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Speaker 1: and I were traveling to San Diego for a conference.

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Speaker 1: The conference took place at the Hotel del Coronado, which

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Speaker 1: is notorious for being haunted by quote beautiful stranger Kate Morgan.

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Speaker 1: This was fascinating to me, so I listened to a

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Speaker 1: few podcasts and read about Kate. In short, she showed

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Speaker 1: up at the hotel used in alias and stayed in

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Speaker 1: her room for days before allegedly dying by suicide on

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Speaker 1: the staircase. Her stay and her death were both suspicious.

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Speaker 1: Our room was booked by the organization hosting the conference,

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Speaker 1: so we didn't know where we were staying until we arrived.

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Speaker 1: We picked up our key and headed to our room,

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Speaker 1: and just before we got there, I stopped him. I

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Speaker 1: googled Kate's room number and it was the room we

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Speaker 1: If Kate was there with us, she was a fabulous

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Speaker 1: hostess because we didn't have any paranormal experiences. What we

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Speaker 1: to Kate. For the most part, it was harmless. People

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Speaker 1: small talk with a family and the elevator, and when

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Speaker 1: His wife reminded him that that was an odd request.

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Speaker 1: The weirdest encounter was when a seemingly drunk dad and

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Speaker 1: kept talking directly to Kate about her death see attached recordings.

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Speaker 1: In hindsight, I would have opened the door or asked

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Speaker 1: deal with that. Thanks Abby, and now Abby did include

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Speaker 1: some recordings that I don't know if they would play

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Speaker 1: won't include them here. But I did watch the videos,

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Speaker 1: and there is indeed a drunk dad talking through the

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Speaker 1: door to the ghost. And I love that your boyfriend

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Speaker 1: knocked back, because, oh my god, that is where I

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Speaker 1: And I'll be honest with you, but that is so

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Speaker 1: funny and strange that that happened. That is a very

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Speaker 1: movie Some like it hot as well with Marilyn Monroe.

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Speaker 1: It's a great place. People should check it out, but

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Speaker 1: Don't be weird. Oh and one other thing, how could

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Speaker 1: I forget this? I have a very exciting announcement in

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Speaker 1: am going to be doing a live show, Honey, a

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Speaker 1: be on stage with some celebrity guests, some favorites of yours.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking spooky dolls. We're gonna be doing

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Speaker 1: everybody be cool. The boss is here. I am joined

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Speaker 1: today by podcasting icon and executive producer of this very podcast.

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Speaker 1: Actually you know her from my favorite Murder and do

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Speaker 1: you need a ride? It is Karen Kilgareff.

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Speaker 3: Rus How are you hi?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming back?

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Speaker 3: Were you waiting for a whole song? I wanted to

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Speaker 1: Well, often when I think of you, I think of

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Speaker 1: how beautiful you're singing voices. People know it from the

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Speaker 1: theme songs of the podcasts that you're on told you

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Speaker 3: Thank you Rush.

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Speaker 1: Your voice is gorgeous and I think you're hilarious.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that. I think a worthwhile thing to say

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Speaker 3: on the back of that compliment. I did not want

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Speaker 3: uh huh, and thought it was kind of a bad idea.

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Speaker 3: And I remembered having met one time Elliott Smith at

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Speaker 3: Largo in the early two thousands. He came on and

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Speaker 3: just always have to say no to that. Like it

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Speaker 3: this is why they say, you know, Martha Grammer, whoever says,

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Speaker 3: whatever you do, whatever you put out there, it's none

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Speaker 1: Cool Karen, Yes, Rose. First question, Okay, what is ghosts?

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Speaker 3: Webster's Dictionary defines ghosts as the plural of ghost.

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Speaker 1: So you've been on the show before, You've told one

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Speaker 1: of the most iconic ghost stories in the history of podcasting. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I can't remember what else was going on at that time,

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess this is one, but there's no ghost hugging.

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Speaker 3: No? I just found out about it. All that stuff

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Speaker 3: Ooh you ever been? No me, neither. I don't know

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Speaker 1: I don't think I am the first person to do this,

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Speaker 1: and Laura Goodin. They move in in nineteen sixty. Jerry,

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Speaker 3: Let's do this. Let's knock some vases off the mantle exactly.

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Speaker 1: So Jerry and Loa Goudain they come home one day

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Speaker 1: So three televisions. The main one fell on Laura's toes

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, You've lived in this house now

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00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: for fourteen years and nothing like this has ever happened.

434
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 3: I gotta say. The second knives rise up out of

435
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 3: the straining rack or whatever it's called, the drying rack, Yeah,

436
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 3: and start flying anywhere goodbye bye, and then the refrigerator part,

437
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 3: which is like, so did the refrigerator land and you

438
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 3: had to plug it back in? Like how is it possible?

439
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 3: So they're just going to go into full denial and

440
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: be like get stuff out of the fridge and fry

441
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: it up in a pan, Like how scared would you be?

442
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

443
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 3: Just ignore it, Just ignore it and eat a full meal.

444
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: Oh past the cranberry sauce.

445
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 3: Get prepared for Thanksgiving with our pre Thanksgiving meals. I

446
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 3: just would leave the house. I think I would first

447
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 3: involve a neighbor, because I think you're right when you

448
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 3: involve the police, it's just an official who's going to

449
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 3: come and tell you you're crazy. I feel like, yeah,

450
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 3: you know, on average, I don't think it's easy to

451
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 3: get the police to do a buy in on a

452
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 3: full Poultergeist haunting exactly. But I would get a neighbor

453
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 3: kind of like, can you please look?

454
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: I recently was scrolling and I don't know if it

455
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: was America's Got Talent or one of these, but I

456
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: saw that old classic act where they chuck a knife

457
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: or shoot a bow and arrow with a person got

458
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: an apple on their hair. Yeah, how is that still.

459
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. Sorry, I was just thinking about that

460
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: when I was thinking about knives being thrown. Oh no,

461
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: it was like one of these ones where the person's

462
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: kind of like got their arms out and the person's

463
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 1: chucking knives around their body and into the wood. You

464
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: better hope that it's the ghost of that person, because

465
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 1: I don't want them hitting me.

466
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 3: Well, can I say the one thing I know about

467
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 3: those things, and this is a bit of a ruin,

468
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 3: it's the boards they're leaning against. The knives are coming

469
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 3: out of those boards.

470
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: No, yeah, yeah, So where does the knife go when

471
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: they throw it?

472
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 3: They don't throw it, their hand goes down, right, it's

473
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: still in their hand. But you're never looking at that

474
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 3: because oh my god, this person could get hit with

475
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 3: a knife. All eyes are on the person on the board.

476
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 3: The reason we're still seeing that trick up unto today

477
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 3: and it has an advance is because they have to

478
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 3: make a new board with a thing that's like effectively

479
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 3: that distracting to come out of it. Working on talk

480
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 3: shows learned a lot of like behind the scenes heartbreaker

481
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 3: like magic and entertainment secrets. I was at one party

482
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 3: once where I told one of them and everyone got

483
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 3: so bummed out, and I was like, oh, okay, I'm

484
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 3: not going to do that anymore. But that one is

485
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: kind of a vaudeville classic.

486
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: Now I want that job. Now I want to be

487
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: the lady that just has to lay there. Yep, that

488
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: sounds like a great gig.

489
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 3: Okay, there's no risk, there's no risk.

490
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: You just lay there. You don't even have to move,

491
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: and then everyone applause and they're so concerned about you,

492
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: and everyone's focused on you. I want that job.

493
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 3: And you get to dress like a champion ice skater.

494
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 3: That's the only chance you get to wear kind of

495
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 3: like a beaded leotard, right, kind of fishnet combo. Unless

496
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 3: you're me unless one of my who am I talking to?

497
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: I see you're talking to you. All I have is

498
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: ice skater regalia. No ice skates, just just from the

499
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: ankle up. Yeah, So back to this story. Yes, So

500
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: they're eating their dinner and throughout that night, the kitchen

501
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: table at Jairs topple over. Curtain rods are fallen left

502
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: and right. Don't you dare forget about the knocking.

503
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: So the next so they're they're powering through. They're just

504
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: like each your vegetables, like exactly, yep, wow, okay, very Connecticut.

505
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: Yes, and we have to keep in mind that this

506
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: is a Catholic family because the man wanted to be

507
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: a priest when he was a kid, right, So I

508
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: don't know, I feel like that plays into some of

509
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: this a little bit as we go on here. Okay,

510
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: so the next morning they wake up, Mmm, that was

511
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: weird last night, but whatever. Jerry walking around the house

512
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: and the house is tore up. These Poulter guys had

513
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: a rager when they were sleeping, and curiously, what he

514
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,479
Speaker 1: notices is that the family's pictures of Jesus are ripped

515
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: and the crucifixes are damaged. Also some other stuff that's

516
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: happening on this morning. The recliners are opening and closing

517
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: on their own.

518
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: Which sounds kind of cool, but it would look great.

519
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: It sounds cool, Yeah, it would be really fun.

520
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: The TV is, I guess playing the sound of a doorbell.

521
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: I don't know what that's all about. This is when

522
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: they decide we got to get out of here, and

523
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: they actually do have a friend that they call over

524
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: to take a look. Of course, they call the cops

525
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: and Laura goes to the hospital because she broke her

526
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: one toe from the TV fallen on it.

527
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, although you can't, they can't do anything for you

528
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: at the hospital. Save your money and tape your toes together,

529
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: because there's nothing that can be done. Just a tip

530
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 3: from me, I know.

531
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,959
Speaker 1: So they call this officer over. He goes in, and

532
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: sure enough, the poulter Geist is like, I don't care

533
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: if it's a cop, come on in, I'm not going anywhere.

534
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: And he goes in and he looks around and he

535
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: does he does one of these. Uh, we're gonna need

536
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: a bigger boat. He calls back up. At this point,

537
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: there's a whole gaggle of police officers that are snooping

538
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: around the house and they are seeing TVs and refrigerators floating.

539
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 1: A crucifix spun around at one point and hit one

540
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: of them in the chest. As this one day is

541
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: going on, the firemen get there. There's approximately twenty witnesses

542
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: in the house.

543
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 3: Wow.

544
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: And it's at this point that the smell of sulfur

545
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: fills the air.

546
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, this sounds like demons are involved.

547
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

548
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: That's a guest, though. You tell me.

549
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: It's a very educated guest based on what we know

550
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: or you know, the smells all fulfills the air, and

551
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: cops look at each other, they say, whoever smelted Delta?

552
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: And the polter guys said, it's me, bitch.

553
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: It's me, bitch. Hi the problem, it's me.

554
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: So one officer actually ran out of the house and claims,

555
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: here's the thing, Karen. If there weren't official police reports

556
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: about this, of which there are many, I would be like, what, yeah,

557
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: because these cops, I mean, they can't be falsifying reports.

558
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: They are saying what they experienced in these reports. Yeah,

559
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: and there's this one who runs out of the house

560
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: and says, I am about to quit my job because

561
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: he claims that their cat started talking to him.

562
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 3: No, no, I've never heard of that in a Poldergeist story.

563
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: Oh you've never seen hocus Pocus. Are we just gonna

564
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: erase the contributions of Thackeray Binks or was it Max

565
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: from Sabrina the Teenage Witch, the nineties sitcom?

566
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 3: Well? What did the cat say? Did the cops say?

567
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 3: Is it quoted that?

568
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: I don't know specifically, but the coop was very concerned

569
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: and very.

570
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: Convinced that would be scary.

571
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would quit my job.

572
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

573
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: So one of their neighbors was into this kind of

574
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: stuff and she's like, oh, I know who to call.

575
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: M Ed and Lorraine Warren legends. So you know about

576
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: these people.

577
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay.

578
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: Now they're controversial, especially in hindsight. My thing I always

579
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: say about them. I think it's great what they did for,

580
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: you know, getting the word out about this kind of

581
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: study and whatever. But they're very jesusy. Everything's a demon

582
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: to them.

583
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

584
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: I have spoken to a few people that have worked

585
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: with them in the past that did not love what

586
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: they did. I don't know. There's also some other tellols

587
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: that have been done to your own research people.

588
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 3: But anyway, if it's not a thing where you can

589
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: get a license for it or there's like school for

590
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 3: it or whatever, these are people that are saying, we

591
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: made up a service and we're telling you how reality

592
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: is exactly, which is one perspective, and maybe they help.

593
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: But also, yeah, that's very interesting. I just always saw

594
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 3: them as good only because during the Conjuring film series,

595
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 3: they always come in when people need the most, and

596
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 3: you know, it's so heartwarming to have Patrick Wilson in

597
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 3: your house when you're scared, absolutely, but yeah, I could

598
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: see where they're their own energy coming in.

599
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: Yes, and you now I think those are based on

600
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: a true story from what I've heard. Yeah, so I

601
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: don't know. But anyway, so they call the men. They

602
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: didn't live too far away from there. They arrive, They

603
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: got a priest and a seminary student with them. I mean,

604
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: they are again very they're very Catholic. So at this point,

605
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: the cops are outside doing crowd control because word has spread.

606
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: Oh shit, yeah, there's not much going on in Bridgeport

607
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: that day.

608
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 3: The cat talk to you, just went screaming into the

609
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: streets and was telling everyone he could find.

610
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: Come on over. We got a poultry. Guys, we are

611
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: refrigerators flying. I saw an interview with Ed Warren. Well,

612
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: it was with Ed and Lorraine Warren on YouTube, and

613
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 1: Ed says there was between ten and fifteen thousand people

614
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: outside of the house. What that's what he says. And

615
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: Lorrain in this interview says, for forty eight hours, it

616
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: was the number one international headline this house because there

617
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: were so many witnesses. I mean, a refrigerator lifting that

618
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Yeah, I'd want to see that for

619
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: myself for sure. This is the point of the story

620
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: where I would be out there selling merch. Okay, I'd

621
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: be making T shirts, keychains, beer koozies. I got knocked

622
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: at the Bridgeport Poulter guys like, I don't know, I

623
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: would come up with something real quick and try to

624
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: make some money.

625
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 3: Oh yes, a talking the cat has a little talking

626
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 3: bubble that says, come on over to the house on

627
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 3: Haunted Lane.

628
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I would be making talking cats, talking cat, ventriloquist dummies,

629
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: all of it. So at this point, everyone is looking

630
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: at Marcie. They're like, girl, what's going on here? Like

631
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: they're thinking that she has something to do with it,

632
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: whether it's paranormally like she's the root of it of

633
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: this Poulter guys, or is she the one that's like

634
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: somehow doing all this stuff to get more attention. Hoax sir, Yeah,

635
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: a hoax sir.

636
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 3: How old was Marcy?

637
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: Sorry, you know, I couldn't find an exact number. I

638
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: believe at the oldest she would be preteen based on

639
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: what I was reading.

640
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 3: Gotcha.

641
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: One thing I was reading about the cops showed up

642
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: and they thought it was kind of weird that she

643
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: was just sitting there watching cartoons. But yeah, somewhere between

644
00:35:54,360 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: baby and thirteen somewhere, as my guess, so everyone looking

645
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: at her. Personally, my number one suspect would be the cat.

646
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: I think that the cat could be throwing things and

647
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: causing some of the chaos. So Lorraine Warren goes into

648
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: Marcie's room and she gets nauseous. She says that she

649
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 1: starts to see a second degree burn forming.

650
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: On her wrist, on Lorrain's own wrist.

651
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: Yes, that's what she says. Okay, Marcie is sitting on

652
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: a recliner talking to the police. Karen, this is insane,

653
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: what they say. She's talking to the police. She's sitting

654
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: on the recliner, the whole seventies recliner. Yes, raises to

655
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: the ceiling, flipped three hundred and sixty degrees in a

656
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: dropped around the ground. Ooh, if I saw a recliner,

657
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: a big old lazy boy with a little girl in

658
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: it lifting to the like, there's no it just sounds

659
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: so insane. But again, there's a lot of witnesses.

660
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 3: So right, there's a lot of witnesses. And also now

661
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 3: we're moving into the nobody's safe realm, because if it's

662
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 3: like an entity that's trying to hurt a child. To me,

663
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 3: that feels like it's next level in the haunting movie

664
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 3: that I'm watching. Yeah, there's one thing when it's like

665
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 3: the vase is knocking around, it's genuinely scaring people, but

666
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 3: it's like it wants to harm that child potentially, or

667
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 3: use the child as an example. Like everybody get out

668
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 3: of there.

669
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, break in toes, throwing crucifixes, throwing knives. It's just

670
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: not it's not a safe place. And again, this part

671
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: of the story is all just three days and nights. Wow,

672
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: it was all happening at once. And at this point

673
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: Adam Lorraine Warren come to a very logical conclusion. They say,

674
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: all right, it's demons. That's what we've diagnosed this one

675
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: hundred percent. It's got to be demons. So one day

676
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: in these three days, the kitchen starts to get cold

677
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: and the lights flicker and a yellow mist is forming.

678
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: Ry claims that he saw four figures in it. He

679
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: starts saying prayers, he's spraying holy water all over the place.

680
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: He's going through the house and he says that the

681
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: figures are following him around. The priest and the Warrens

682
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: come back to bless the house and they say that

683
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: they saw a shadowy figure. Then Marcy, during all this chaos,

684
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: goes to one of the officers, Hey, come over here.

685
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: She goes, guess what it's me doing all this shit?

686
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 3: What?

687
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: She makes a confession. She says, it's me. I'm doing it. Now.

688
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: Whether she said this or not, we don't know. This

689
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: is where a little bit of the controversy comes into play,

690
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: because the cops are like, all right, she has admitted

691
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: it's her. It's just a teenage girl. She's you know,

692
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: puppeteering this.

693
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's spinning a refrigerator in the air.

694
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. They're like, sure it's her. Yeah. They're like, all right,

695
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: everyone get out, like let's go, and kind of everyone

696
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: is like thank god, Like, first of all, very expensive

697
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: for taxpayers to be paid for the cops. That's right

698
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: to be, you know, doing all this crowd control. They've

699
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: got cops parked out there all night. The police chief

700
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 1: is over it, so they kind of now, I don't

701
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: know if she really said that or not, but either way,

702
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: they get to a point where they're like, we're just

703
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: gonna say it's the little girl. Please ten thousand people outside,

704
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: go get a hobby. We're done here, and the good

705
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: and family told the Warrens, all right, we're good everyone. Yes,

706
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: is kind of like, but how did she do the refrigerator? Yeah,

707
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: and all this other stuff the recliners and I don't know.

708
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: Apparently the police chief said publicly, the little girl is

709
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: a ventriloquist and the cat story that you heard, she

710
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: is able to throw her voice and she gave them

711
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: the old Jeff Dunham and that's that.

712
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: But it was a cat speaking that scared a grown

713
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 3: policeman to the degree where he wanted to quit his job,

714
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 3: sacrifice his pension, give up everything he'd maybe worked for for,

715
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: you know, zero to fifteen years. Yeah, it wasn't like

716
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 3: a little girl being like get out of the house.

717
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 3: It's like it was believable enough so that he went

718
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 3: running and telling people.

719
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that obviously the police chief was

720
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: a little embarrassed, like, I've got my grown men out

721
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: here in this house saying that cats are talking and

722
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: refrigerators are lifting up in the air. This is not

723
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: a good look for us. We just got to leave

724
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: this and they did, and the Warrens have definitely talked

725
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: about this case a lot over the years. I mean,

726
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 1: they're both deceased now, but they talked about it, and

727
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: they don't believe that it was her, even in a

728
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: paranormal way, because stuff would happen when she was like

729
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: miles away from the house. But then I'm a little

730
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: bit confused because in this one interview I was listening to,

731
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: Lorraine was saying that apparently, you know, she was adopted,

732
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: and the last home she was at there were strange

733
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: occurrences happening.

734
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 3: So hmm.

735
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: Either way, this particular case, apparently it continued for a

736
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: few weeks and kind of died down. And that is

737
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: the Bridgeport poltergeist.

738
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 3: Okay, Can I just say that it reminds me of

739
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 3: the original ghost story I told you, Yeah, that happened

740
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: in college, same exact thing, where we were in such denial,

741
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 3: even though weird things were happening and people were going,

742
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 3: you know, like, why'd you do the dishes in the

743
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: middle of the night type of stuff, and we just

744
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 3: ignored it and ignored it and ignored it. And then

745
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 3: even after it happened, like I had my sister come

746
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 3: pick me up and then the next day she just

747
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 3: brought me back. It's not like we immediately moved out

748
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 3: or anything. Is it just people get so freaked out

749
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: and overwhelmed, where like as long as things aren't flying

750
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 3: across the room, they're like, I guess this is fine.

751
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to quit a job or to move

752
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: out of a house that's so serious and takes so

753
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: much out of a person's life. And yeah, to do

754
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: that because you believe there's an invisible person throwing things

755
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: and doing dishes and whatever, you feel like a crazy

756
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: person admitting that, right, And I feel like it gets

757
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: to this point where you're like, I'm an adult, come on,

758
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: this is crazy. Yeah, that's I think a lot of

759
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: times what keeps people around with this stuff? And I'm

760
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: very grateful for them because then I have stuff to

761
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: talk about on this podcast.

762
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 3: Well, and it is a fascinating thing of what does

763
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 3: ultimately solve these situations or make them stop happening. Is

764
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 3: there some sort of point where the ghost gets what

765
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 3: they want? Or is it the people getting to a

766
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: certain place, Like if all those events died down, like

767
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 3: what was it? Did anybody get what they wanted in

768
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: this scenario?

769
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: Well? I think like when you're a ghost, it's like,

770
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: where do you go from recliners tipping upside down?

771
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 3: For real?

772
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: Like what can you really do? Because you can go

773
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: back to just knocking, but that's not going to be

774
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: satisfying for you once you've already pushed it to that limit.

775
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think the ghost was like I don't know,

776
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: I'm like out of ideas honestly, Like I got the

777
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: crowd here and now I feel like I'm a has

778
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 1: been because nobody wants to come around here anymore. And

779
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: I got the damn cat to start talking.

780
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 3: Uh, what more do you want from me?

781
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: If we're done, I'm done.

782
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 3: I wonder if you saying Connecticut's really haunted, maybe the

783
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 3: ghost goes to a different house. Maybe there's a little

784
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 3: bit of that happening. Oh yeah, I mean I thought

785
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 3: I'd throw it out there for theories. Why not?

786
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: But I'm open to all of it.

787
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: Why not?

788
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: You know, ghosts can go all over the place, including

789
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: haunted dolls. Karen, Can I show you a haunted doll

790
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: I found on eBay?

791
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: I wish you would.

792
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: It's time for a segment I call the dolls are living,

793
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: So Karen, these can look like anything. Okay, haunted dolls

794
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: come in all kinds of forms. And we love a

795
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: traditional scary little girl with curly hair and lacey dress,

796
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: and even better if one eyeball's missing. But this one,

797
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: I will say, not so much scary looking. I don't know,

798
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: maybe to some people, but it does come with a

799
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: backstory that's really fun. Giha, if you could, please, could

800
00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: you please introduce Karen to Lucius. So this is Lucius,

801
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 1: who is I guess a pumpkin. But it's confusing because

802
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: he's got arms and legs. He's not just like a circle,

803
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: so I don't know's I guess he's like an orange

804
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: looking little plushy type doll with a witch hat on. Yeah,

805
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: very clearly a halloween kind of off brand beanie baby.

806
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: Yes you heard of tie t Y. This is Bye Okay,

807
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: she's not quite a real beanie baby, I don't think.

808
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: But anyway, it's not about the outside with Lucius. It's

809
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: about what's going on when you buy Lucius. So currently

810
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: Lucius is going for forty six dollars on e Bay.

811
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: Here's what it says. He was forty three when he

812
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: passed away when one of the members of his coven

813
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 1: got mad at him and pushed him off of a roof.

814
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: He has been a warlock for twenty years and learned

815
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: a lot, and he started his own coven. They met

816
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: once a week on a rooftop of a high rise

817
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: building that he lived in. They would perform rituals and spells.

818
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: The new guy in his coven like to push his

819
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: views and opinions even though he was a beginner, and

820
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: he seemed to have a temper when someone didn't agree

821
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: with him. At one of their coven meetings, the new

822
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 1: guy disagreed with Lucius on how to perform a certain

823
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: ritual and he started fighting with Lucius. Lucius was trying

824
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: to calm him down and explain things, but the guy

825
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 1: went into a rage and pushed him off of a roof.

826
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: Now Lucius is looking for a new home. He will

827
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: gladly cast his magic spells on your behalf. Just tell

828
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: him what your need is and politely and respectfully ask

829
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: him to cast a spell on your behalf, and don't

830
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: forget to thank him. Besides doing magic, he enjoys riding

831
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: motorcycles and dirt bikes. He also loves watching football. He

832
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: sometimes turns our lights on and off. He opens and

833
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: shuts doors and knocks and bangs on doors, walls, and windows.

834
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: I've even seen him move objects such as a book,

835
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: coffee cup, pull a chair out, etc. So that's pretty

836
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: much it. You're interested. I got forty six bucks, Karen.

837
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 3: I feel like sometimes people get on platforms like eBay

838
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 3: and such, and then they treat it like it's their

839
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 3: chance to have a creative writing moment, where they're just like, slowly,

840
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 3: let's get in here and let's see what I can do.

841
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: Especially during the strike. I did notice a lot of

842
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: these during the.

843
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 3: Strike, Yelp reviews that go on and on. Yes, people

844
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 3: needing to get it out of them in some way.

845
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 3: This has the same feel because I have to say,

846
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 3: and maybe that's kind of part of it is Lucia's

847
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 3: doesn't look like he would be doing any of those things.

848
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 3: And the idea that he was a warlock that got

849
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 3: pushed off a roof is really funny when you look

850
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 3: at this doll, because it just looks like kind of

851
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 3: a new doll that someone got in a claw machine

852
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 3: at the airport in Las Vegas around October.

853
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe I should have explained this to you a

854
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: little bit more. Oh now it's my bad. I assume

855
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 1: that you knew what The idea behind these on eBay

856
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: is that a person lives a life and dies, and

857
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: rather than going to heaven or how or anywhere else,

858
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: they somehow magically end up inside of a doll.

859
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 3: Right.

860
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: I don't know how they choose it. I don't know

861
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: how it happens. It just somehow. This is the doll

862
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: that Lucius the Warlock found himself.

863
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 3: That's what I'm calling bullshit on. What I'm saying is,

864
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 3: you know we didn't pick this doll. Yeah, this doll

865
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: looks like it's a rip off jolly Bee character. It

866
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 3: is the weirdest like it's almost like there's no design

867
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 3: to the doll. It's like a fourth grader made it. Yeah, well,

868
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 3: there's nothing scary about this doll.

869
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: Would you own it though? Saying that you don't think.

870
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 3: It's scary, No, only because it would just collect dust

871
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: and then I would end up, you know, giving it

872
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 3: away or srowing it away or something.

873
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

874
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 3: I just don't see any There's no enjoyment that can

875
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 3: come out of this in any direction, because it's not

876
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 3: pleasant to look at. I know, he has a kind

877
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 3: of a gritty you know, the gritty mascot yes, he

878
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 3: has a rip off gritty vibe to him.

879
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: He does look like a mascot for sure.

880
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 3: Do you want to buy him? Are you interested in this?

881
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: Yeah? That's what this was about, Karen. I just I'm

882
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: in love with this doll and I was wondering if

883
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: you think I should buy it.

884
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 3: I will absolutely give you forty six dollars. If you

885
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 3: don't want to spend your own money, I'll sponsor you

886
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:46,720
Speaker 3: for the show.

887
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: Karen, Can I play you some ghost voices?

888
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 3: Sure?

889
00:49:53,400 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 2: It's time for EVP or ev plyse all right, Karen,

890
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 2: you've done this four years ago.

891
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: Here's what I do. I go to YouTube or TikTok

892
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: or wherever fine ghost voices are posted, and I find

893
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: a couple of EVPs electronic voice phenomena. I'm gonna play

894
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: you too, and I want you to tell me what

895
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: you hear, okay, and then I'll give you some options,

896
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: the correct answer being what the person that posted it

897
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: believes the ghost is saying.

898
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 3: Got it?

899
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: These are both from the same channel on YouTube, which

900
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: is called Sinister EVP. This first one is at a

901
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: cemetery in Rhode Island. What is this ghost saying, Karen?

902
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: Little clickiness going on there, but you can hear it.

903
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 3: I heard definitely a whisper, kind of sounded like a

904
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 3: man's voice. Will you play it again?

905
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: I would love to.

906
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 2: Hmm.

907
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 3: It sounded like pool gang, kind of.

908
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: Pool gang, like the gang at the neighborhood pool.

909
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, warning about the pool gang.

910
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: Pool Let me play it. One word said, Mmm, I

911
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: do hear pool gang.

912
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 3: But what else could those vowels be saying?

913
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 1: Well, I will say, sinister EVP did not think it

914
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 1: was pool gang.

915
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 3: Okay, I can't believe I didn't get that one.

916
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: It's one of these four options. Did they think it

917
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 1: was a armageddon? B come again? C oh my god?

918
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: Or D I'm gay? Okay, it's one of those. Let

919
00:51:54,320 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: me play it again, come again? They do? It was

920
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: indeed B come again?

921
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 3: Yes, congratulations, I'm so excited.

922
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 1: Okay. One more, This next one, also from sinister EVP.

923
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: This is at their friend Tom's house, which is haunted.

924
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 3: Okay, what is it saying? Oh?

925
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: Another whisper?

926
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 3: We played again?

927
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: Hmmm. I don't like that any guesses.

928
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 3: I mean, it almost sounded like welcome home or something,

929
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 3: but not the beginning, but like come home at the end.

930
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: Well, here's some options. Is it a I'm on zoom,

931
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 1: is it B in the mood, C in the room,

932
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: or D I'm a ghost boo. Okay, it's one of those.

933
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 3: In the room.

934
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: In the room. Karen kilgarv two for two.

935
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 3: I like this game.

936
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: I know it's fun.

937
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 3: It's fun and kind of scary.

938
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: It is.

939
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 3: The first one scared me a little bit. There's something

940
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 3: about the sound of it. I didn't like it's the whisper.

941
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: But again, it's like, could these ghosts just be innocently

942
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: like I'm in the room, just so you know, I

943
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: don't want to bother I just want to warn you.

944
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: Don't want to bother anyone. I'm in the room.

945
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 3: Don't mind me.

946
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And the first one was saying, what was it,

947
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 1: come again, come.

948
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 3: Again, come again.

949
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

950
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 3: We love to having you here any times.

951
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: It's nice to have someone here. Okay, we're gonna do

952
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: one last thing. Okay, it's just kind of a rapid fire.

953
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: Just wanted to see if anything comes up, maybe an

954
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: anecdote of some sort, maybe a theory you have, I

955
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: don't know, something of just different paranormal phenomenon. Okay, we'll

956
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: go through some real quick psychics. What do you got

957
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: to say about psychics, any thoughts.

958
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 3: I very much believe in psychics. Yeah, yeah, I think

959
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 3: there's plenty of people who can hear or see or

960
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 3: feel things that other people can't. For sure, we know that.

961
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: Do you go to them or have you?

962
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 3: I have in the past, like when I've gone to

963
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 3: let's have place a psychic guy that amazing, like bookstore

964
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 3: so good, and sometimes they would have like you could

965
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 3: get either to row reading or some sort of psychic reading.

966
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 3: They'd always tell me stuff. I would just be like,

967
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about. But I think

968
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 3: that had to do with myself where if people were like,

969
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 3: you have brown hair and blue eyes, I'd be like,

970
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about. It was like

971
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 3: kind of that time of life where everything was more

972
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 3: like I don't want to know about myself. But I've

973
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 3: never had like a personal reading from like it because

974
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 3: there's so many in LA where people are like this

975
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 3: person's really actually good, right, There's so many, but I've

976
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:07,959
Speaker 3: never had one.

977
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: Okay, Psychay is an interesting store because it's I definitely

978
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: think people should check it out. It's a cool place

979
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: to spend an hour. They also have psychics on staff.

980
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: It's like, uh, take your pick, like there's twenty of

981
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 1: them here. Yeah, it's kind of cool.

982
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 3: Have you ever had this psychic reading? There?

983
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: A psychic reading? Oh my god, I've had so many.

984
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: I've also had phone call ones from them, which you

985
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: can also do. Ooh yeah, it's kind of fun. You

986
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: can go in and like look through the roster. Kind

987
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: of reminds me this one time I watched the show

988
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: on like Cinemax or something where they go to like

989
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,959
Speaker 1: the Bunny or whatever, Like they line up and they're

990
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: like that one. It's like that kind of vibe, like

991
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 1: pick which one you like, and then there's all these

992
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: ladies with like frankly look like me with like bangs

993
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: and long finger now, and then I'm like, I'm want

994
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: that one. That's my psychic anyway. So what do you

995
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 1: believe in curses? Mmm?

996
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 3: I think a little bit. I definitely believe in Italian curses.

997
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 3: I think it depends.

998
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm doing my cat pounce curse.

999
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 3: You really you reel back like a cat and then

1000
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 3: you come forward. I mean, because I think that intention

1001
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 3: of like I hope the worst on you is very real. Yeah,

1002
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 3: and I think it's probably a good idea every once

1003
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 3: in a while to just get that released or have

1004
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 3: some like an old lady bless you in some way

1005
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 3: so that that doesn't stick to you. But I guess yes,

1006
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 3: all the things I just said equal a true yes.

1007
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I got is a punching bag.

1008
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: I bought a punching bag, oh, for a workout. But

1009
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: also I'm like, if I got bad energy, I'm gonna

1010
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: put it in the punching bag. I'm not gonna put

1011
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: it on people.

1012
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's nice, that's ah. But there's also just like

1013
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 3: I think revenge is such a it's such a drug,

1014
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 3: such a lure. Right, So then you're like, somebody fucked

1015
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 3: me over, So now I'm gonna I can figure out

1016
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 3: a way to like permanently ruin their life or something.

1017
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 3: How could you not want to do that? If someone

1018
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 3: does something bad to you.

1019
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: You can use it as motivation, for sure. I feel

1020
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: like that's so many of us here in show business

1021
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: where it's like I'll show you guys, you'll rue the day. Yes, Okay,

1022
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: a couple more past lives. You believe in that.

1023
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 3: Not that much? You know, what I believe in is

1024
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 3: Edgar Casey and those things where he would access the

1025
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 3: Acashic records and all that.

1026
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

1027
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 3: I'm fascinated by that because there was so much of

1028
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 3: it that turned out to be real and true, provably

1029
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 3: true that he was kind of accessing. So yeah, I

1030
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 3: don't know whether he actually specifically talked about past lives,

1031
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 3: but that's what that reminded me of. And I think

1032
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 3: that the idea of that we've been here before, I

1033
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 3: think is interesting and as a thing to think about,

1034
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 3: but actually, like it's me Cleopatra, I don't really believe

1035
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 3: in that.

1036
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: That's a lot of times you go to these ladies,

1037
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: you pay them some money, and they say you were

1038
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: a pharaoh. It's always like you were a pharaoh, you

1039
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: were a war hero. It's never you were some lady

1040
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: named Sarah that just sort of.

1041
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 3: Sheem's nice working at the butcher shop.

1042
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you worked at a butcher shop.

1043
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 3: Decent human being. Well. Also, it makes me think of

1044
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 3: like I did have grandparents who like both emigrated to

1045
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 3: America alone or you know, like with just their siblings

1046
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 3: in their teens, so it's kind of like they're very

1047
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 3: heroic to me. You don't have to go that far

1048
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 3: back or be like it doesn't have to be me personally,

1049
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 3: because it's like that is part of me, is like right, hey,

1050
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 3: those badasses got me where I am today. I think

1051
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,919
Speaker 3: sometimes if people need to feel a little pride where

1052
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 3: they can't find it or something, or you know, that's

1053
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 3: a good thing to tap into. What if you were

1054
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 3: a lady or some sort of lowered or something. But

1055
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 3: it's like, well that's fine, but you can do an

1056
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 3: ancestry dot com or whatever and figure out the same

1057
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 3: thing from reality.

1058
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: Totally. Okay. Last one, we giboards keep believe in them.

1059
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 3: I think they're real and I don't like them at all.

1060
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: Really, did you ever do one? Yes?

1061
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 3: I've done them a lot, and I just always heard

1062
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 3: bad stories and like people who I went to school

1063
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 3: with were like we did a thing and there was

1064
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 3: actually something in the room with that, like freaked out

1065
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 3: preteen girls, because that gets real popular, like in seventh

1066
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 3: and eighth grade when you're still doing slummer parties. You're

1067
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 3: not like out at a party yet, uh huh. All

1068
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 3: that girl energy and like trying to get messages or whatever.

1069
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think there's a lot to that,

1070
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 3: and it's just why are we letting the young girl

1071
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 3: children play.

1072
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: With those things totally.

1073
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you keep it in the hands of the adults.

1074
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1075
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: I think that that kind of stuff, Like you could

1076
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: do the same thing a million different ways, Like I

1077
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: think you could light a candle and be like, who's

1078
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: here with us? Like, I don't know, there's you could

1079
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: do a lot of things. However, the Wiji board is like,

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Speaker 1: here's a toy. Who wants it?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Like there's something very innocently presented, like you're saying

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Speaker 3: about it. But then it's like, but you could also

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Speaker 3: maybe call up the devil. Yeah, we don't know. We're

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Speaker 3: Parker Brothers. We don't know.

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Speaker 1: We don't know. We don't do that far fun. We

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Speaker 1: just make the board. Karen, what an honor to have

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Speaker 1: you back.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for doing this, Rose. I love you, Karen.

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Speaker 1: I love you, Karen. People listen to my favorite murder.

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Speaker 1: Do you need a ride? You're not on Instagram, you

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Speaker 1: don't post on TikTok.

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Speaker 3: Right, I watch everybody else's stuff on TikTok and love

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Speaker 3: it and enjoy it, but I don't. Yeah, same, It's

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Speaker 3: one way street.

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Speaker 1: Goodbye, goodbye, There's something behind you. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: to Karen. Of course, you know where to find her

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Speaker 1: on My Favorite Murder and Do You Need a Ride,

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Speaker 1: which are two podcasts that I have been on. I

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Speaker 1: have been very honored to be a rare guest on

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Speaker 1: My Favorite Murder and I know a lot of Murder

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Speaker 1: renos listen to this show, and I've met a lot

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Speaker 1: of you, and thank you and thank you for supporting

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Speaker 1: all of us here at Exactly Right. Guys, I will

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Speaker 1: talk to you next week. I love you all, both

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Speaker 1: living and dead. But if I didn't ask you to

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Speaker 1: haunt me, don't haunt me.

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Speaker 3: Gay bye.

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Speaker 1: This has been an ex exactly right production. Want to

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Speaker 1: share your paranormal experience on the podcast? I read stories

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Speaker 1: out loud and sometimes I'll even call you. So email

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Speaker 1: me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. You

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Speaker 1: can send a DM or voice message to the show's

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Speaker 1: instagram at ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow while

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Speaker 1: you're there, and follow me Roz on Instagram at Roz

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Speaker 1: Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez.

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Speaker 1: My senior producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer

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Speaker 1: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and

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Speaker 1: sound designed by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker

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Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the

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Speaker 1: hair raising Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by

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Speaker 1: the spine Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky

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Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced

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Speaker 1: by the Chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spookky Georgia Hard Start,

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Speaker 1: and the Frightening Danielle Kramer.