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Speaker 1: What's up, guys. Welcome into a brand new episode of

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Speaker 1: Chargers Weekly out here at Chargers Training Camp with Matt

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Speaker 1: Muddy Smith and last week money to Let's go on

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Speaker 1: the pod this week head coach Brandon's Staley gonna join

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Speaker 1: us at any moment, and it was good to hear

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Speaker 1: from Tom last week. Get here from the head coach

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Speaker 1: here in a few minutes. Yeah, no down. Today's you know,

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Speaker 1: we're doing it from training camp. Today's camp shells. So

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Speaker 1: a little bit different than yesterday. Yesterday was fun. Yesterday

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Speaker 1: was just long, ended up going about forty about forty

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Speaker 1: forty five minutes longer than than we'd seen previous camps.

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Speaker 1: Had some good one on ones, had some good sort

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Speaker 1: of red zone drills. They were running the halftime two

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Speaker 1: minute drill. So yesterday was a lot of fun. Today

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Speaker 1: a little bit more of a breather, a lot of

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Speaker 1: vets getting the day off. No Filer, no Lindsley. I

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Speaker 1: think the van Noy, I want to say, might have

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Speaker 1: it's it's been fun to kind of get up to

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Speaker 1: this point and I think we're starting to seeing I'm

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Speaker 1: anxious to get coach on we're starting to see a

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Speaker 1: little bit more special teams and we kind of know,

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Speaker 1: you know, we've talked about it quite a bit and

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Speaker 1: and how much you know what they're looking for from

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Speaker 1: that particular unit. Um, So I'm anxious to kind of

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Speaker 1: how he's feeling, because special teams is hard to practice.

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Speaker 1: We're really hard. I think it was Popera had to

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Speaker 1: I were, Yeah, he and I were talking because you know,

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Speaker 1: we've been doing this a while now, and you know,

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Speaker 1: we've been watching Drew and and Tai Long and man,

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Speaker 1: there's just something about when you get a kicker that's

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Speaker 1: got a little pop, you can hear it. It sounds different,

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Speaker 1: it looks different. And like the first day we saw

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Speaker 1: JK out there booting the ball that was the case,

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Speaker 1: And so everybody's pulling out their stop watch and you're like,

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Speaker 1: what is And then you're looking up on the internet

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Speaker 1: pretending like you're some kind of Special teams expert. You're

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Speaker 1: like operations. I felt like I was in at the combine. Yeah, Pops, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: to when I originally when we did the combine, I

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Speaker 1: would do a broadcast for NFL Network that would run

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Speaker 1: the entirety of the combine from the second the specialist

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Speaker 1: start until the defensive backs did their game, their gauntlet game.

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Speaker 1: We were on the air on NFL dot Com broadcast

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Speaker 1: into the world, and the first thing I ever saw

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Speaker 1: out a combine was Brian Anger punting. And I remember

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Speaker 1: watching all these punters go through and then Anger gets

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Speaker 1: that plays like, what the hill is that? Because it

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Speaker 1: was just such a book you just exploded off his

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Speaker 1: in the third round. So there's just certain you know, again,

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Speaker 1: special teams. Nobody talks special teams like the Chargers weekly podcasts.

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Speaker 1: There's something I think money broke down every punter in

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Speaker 1: the draft in April. Yeah, JK. Scottman looked great. So far,

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Speaker 1: think what they're looking for this year in terms of

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Speaker 1: We talked about the defense getting improved, but I think

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Speaker 1: know you have a confident punt unit in defense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you know, today was a big day for that.

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Speaker 1: addition to coach Daniel Popper are going to join us

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Speaker 1: is Brandon Marshall and Pacman Jones were here for that

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Speaker 1: I Am Athlete podcast and you hear Marshall like yelling

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Speaker 1: at Palm. It's like big Man, you gotta get that ball.

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Speaker 1: add another element to see like a guy like Brandon

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Speaker 1: Marshall really into that. Yeah, no doubt. And look we

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Speaker 1: we've talked about that right. Um, we don't have fans today,

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Speaker 1: of juice, uh, you know these guys, Yeah, they're athletes,

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Speaker 1: but they're also you know, they're performers. When when you're

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Speaker 1: and you know, juice helps, you know, fans help, just

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Speaker 1: And I think, you know, that's the difference between today,

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Speaker 1: to be that plug in play dude. Yeah, I'll tell you.

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Speaker 1: It reminds me a lot is coach is walking over

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Speaker 1: come on in, yesh, coach, let's have coached Sitan grap

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in. We were just talking about about

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for improvement within the football team. And our

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Speaker 1: you know, finish this next block with a scrimmage there

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Speaker 1: first rookie class last year where we talk about Slater

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Speaker 1: being a first team All Pro, Za, Joshua Palmer, those

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Speaker 1: three guys specifically, Coach, what have you seen from year

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Speaker 1: Rashawn said he watched some filmless or that made him

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Speaker 1: you have to show him like how it's gonna work,

428
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Speaker 1: or they're not gonna believe you. So I think to

429
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Speaker 1: be able to show people that um is really cool,

430
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Speaker 1: and to be teaming up with Kyle every single day

431
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Speaker 1: now having used him as an example, you know, at

432
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Speaker 1: a really meaningful place for me, Carol, um is you

433
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Speaker 1: can't you can't describe it. That's pretty cool. Last one

434
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Speaker 1: for me because we talked about Kyle, Khalil and Joey

435
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Speaker 1: so much. Chris Ruff, I want to ask how about

436
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Speaker 1: this last week when we ran out of the time,

437
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Speaker 1: just rumps development. He had a really good practice yesterday,

438
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Speaker 1: really good practice yesterday and I um rushed on against

439
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Speaker 1: Rashan um and and and he's really improving his weights

440
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Speaker 1: at a really good number. UM. He's worked really hard

441
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Speaker 1: at it UM and I think that's gonna, you know,

442
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Speaker 1: really sustain him in the league. UM. And he's doing

443
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Speaker 1: really well on special teams, kind of being a core

444
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Speaker 1: guy for us and a guy that we can really

445
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Speaker 1: count on. Ryan Ficken and Chris Gold have loved working

446
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Speaker 1: with him, and then Gift Smith's doing a great job

447
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Speaker 1: coaching him. And you know Chris's dad, Chris senior coach

448
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 1: Khalil last year in Chicago, so there's a relationship there.

449
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 1: And he's just one of these guys that's soaking it

450
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Speaker 1: all up from most two guys. I mean, you talk

451
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Speaker 1: about an education for a young player, you know, being

452
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Speaker 1: with those two guys every day, it's really cool to

453
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Speaker 1: see his progress. And you know, he's got a lot

454
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Speaker 1: to prove in this preseason. Chris Rump does and I'm

455
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Speaker 1: excited to see him do it all. Right, last one,

456
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Speaker 1: I'm hoping you're reapplied to because we're cooking in the

457
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Speaker 1: sun right now with the old sunscreen there. So as

458
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Speaker 1: long as you want to make this or as short,

459
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Speaker 1: totally fine. But you've mentioned something they would just kind

460
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Speaker 1: of popped into my head in training camp. I don't

461
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Speaker 1: know if this will make sense. Are you teaching more

462
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Speaker 1: than coaching? Is teaching and coaching the same thing as coaching?

463
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Speaker 1: Like do you need to coach energy? Do you need

464
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Speaker 1: or is it more a we're teaching right now? So

465
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Speaker 1: I'm not worried about does that make sense? Yeah? It does.

466
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Speaker 1: It's an awesome question because I feel like you're doing

467
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Speaker 1: it all. You're teaching, you're leading, you're motivating. There's the

468
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Speaker 1: strategy part of it where I kind of think that's

469
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Speaker 1: like coaching, you know, teaching, hey, teaching people how to

470
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Speaker 1: do things, and you know, there's so much to goa

471
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Speaker 1: that goes into being a pro player. There's so much

472
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Speaker 1: to have an a quality practice that takes so many people.

473
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Speaker 1: And so I think that's why people love sports so

474
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Speaker 1: much is because you get to do a lot of

475
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Speaker 1: different things within it. I think that's why people love

476
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Speaker 1: covering it. There's a lot to cover a lot of

477
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 1: different aspects to cover in sports, and so I think

478
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Speaker 1: what's cool about training camp is you're doing that all

479
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Speaker 1: and it's like really pure, Like it's like the purest

480
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Speaker 1: form of being a coach is a training camp because

481
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Speaker 1: you're getting to play real football in the spring time.

482
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Speaker 1: You don't get to put these pads on, so that's

483
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Speaker 1: not real football. So I feel like training camp is sacred.

484
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: And then you get to be in front of your fans,

485
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: and then that makes it even more special and you're truly,

486
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: you know, shaping your football team. And if you're a competitor,

487
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 1: you know, you get to heat every day in training camp.

488
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 1: You know, when you get to the season, it's it's preparation,

489
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's preparation, and it's a different

490
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: type of competition, where like in training camp, every single

491
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: day's a competition. And that's what I love about training camp.

492
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Speaker 1: In the NFL, we get a half, We've got our

493
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Speaker 1: first pressing game. I can't wait, coach. Yeah, guys, thanks

494
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: for having to go. Yeah, get you out of the sun.

495
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Speaker 1: I wish we get another California, guys, California. I'm glad.

496
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Speaker 1: I got these flip flops on and tan the tops

497
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Speaker 1: of my feet looked like a real burnout, he said.

498
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Speaker 1: Shane Day rocks right. Shane Day is a flip flop guy,

499
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Speaker 1: and if rules would allow him, he would do it

500
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Speaker 1: a practice. There we go clean. It's funny. It's the

501
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Speaker 1: one I think. I hope I'm allowed to say this

502
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Speaker 1: if I've letting it out. It's the one thing on

503
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Speaker 1: the dress code, no flip flops, like on the when

504
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Speaker 1: we're traveling. It's we have our dress code and there's

505
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Speaker 1: there is a specific item that is not allowed. It

506
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Speaker 1: is the only thing listening flip flops. I'm not no,

507
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Speaker 1: I respect the code. I'm you know, I'm fortunate enough

508
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Speaker 1: to be on the play and I will respect the code.

509
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Speaker 1: You just never know, you never know. Check his feet

510
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Speaker 1: all chick, exactly exactly. Thanks coach, Thank you, coach. Appreciate

511
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 1: having you guys. All right, buddy from coach to Daniel

512
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 1: Popper or the athletic. What a drop off we could

513
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Speaker 1: have gone. Yeah, we'll probably go an hour with Popper.

514
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: But they've they've strategically placed us in the sun, so

515
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Speaker 1: we are cooking. We're still that's a good thing. It's

516
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Speaker 1: it's forcing us not to be too long winded, and

517
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Speaker 1: I really pack in the good content and a short

518
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Speaker 1: amount of time. I'm somewhere between tomato and fire truck

519
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: right now, somewhere in there that region. We'll get you

520
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Speaker 1: a fire truck. They'll get you there, get you there.

521
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Speaker 1: We got ten days last I'm sure i'll get there eventually.

522
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Speaker 1: We got a little bit of coverage, all right, before

523
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Speaker 1: we get to football. You had some some music announcements

524
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Speaker 1: last or yesterday, right, Yeah, I'd like for you to

525
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Speaker 1: share with our audience. All right, my debut single, it's

526
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Speaker 1: called Ride. Called Ride, coming out on Progressive Vibes Music,

527
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Speaker 1: a label out in Spain. My first track that I

528
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Speaker 1: got signed. It's releasing August twenty nine, two week exclusive

529
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Speaker 1: on bport for hitting all streaming platforms on September twelve,

530
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 1: the day after my birthday. Can you can you play

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Speaker 1: a little bit right? You know it? Oh? Look at this?

532
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Speaker 1: How about this? I mean listen, imprompt hold on, hold

533
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Speaker 1: on the moment, Here we go. Oh, put it, put

534
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Speaker 1: it right on there, put it right on that march.

535
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Speaker 1: Here we go. So this is Ride. Here we go. Well,

536
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Speaker 1: arp high art up an octave. We got our basy

537
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Speaker 1: dark undertones. Hey, social tea Social Tea. You guys, listen

538
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Speaker 1: to this. This is Popper's This is Popper's new track.

539
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Speaker 1: It's called right Hats here comb the Hats. Yes, oh cool.

540
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Speaker 1: I think this is a vibe man coming to you

541
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Speaker 1: EDC twenty twenty three. Yes, so so Spain. When are we?

542
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Speaker 1: When are you? Uh? When are you spinning in Abitha?

543
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Speaker 1: What's what's the schedule for the next summer. I'm I'm

544
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: in the lab. I'm working every day on the cdj's. Yeah,

545
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: spinning every day so that when I do get my

546
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Speaker 1: no recalled, I'll be ready. It's it's all about preparation,

547
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Speaker 1: you know how work. Certainly well. I love this so much.

548
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: Behind that tell some story. Shout out to Progressive Vibes

549
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Speaker 1: Music out in Spain for signing my sign of my track.

550
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Speaker 1: What do they call the guys Progressive music Vibes music?

551
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Speaker 1: All right? Shout out? Then? If you if you watch us,

552
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Speaker 1: you follow Poper on Twitter? Get information. Yeah, it's all

553
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: on there. I made it. I made an artist Instagram yesterday,

554
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Speaker 1: so I go follow me there if you want to

555
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Speaker 1: follow what's your what's your artist name? Yes, PHR space

556
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Speaker 1: phr oh okay with an h y h is silent.

557
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Speaker 1: I made it in college and just stuck with it. Whatever,

558
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Speaker 1: it's just a play on my last name that works.

559
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Speaker 1: And also when I was in college, I used to

560
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Speaker 1: walk into every room and do like the air horn

561
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Speaker 1: sound like it's like like an automotopa for that. I

562
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Speaker 1: got you, Yeah, oh, I got super cool. We should

563
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Speaker 1: you know. Honestly, now I'm thinking about I should probably

564
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Speaker 1: take that second part out of the origin story of

565
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Speaker 1: the name and just say that it's a play on

566
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Speaker 1: my last name. So I don't know. I like, I'm right.

567
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Speaker 1: I'm a fan of an Atomi the all right. Someone

568
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Speaker 1: uh someone hollered it from the back row. Um. Are

569
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Speaker 1: you better at sports journalism or are you better at

570
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: making me? Um? Relative to everyone else doing it. I'm

571
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 1: definitely better at sports journalism because there are a lot

572
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: of people that are better at making music than me,

573
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: and nobody that's better. Especially. That's a confidence you gotta

574
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: have when you're on a beat beat writer, I've been

575
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: writing and doing journalism for a long time. I've been

576
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: making music a little a little shorter amount of time

577
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: than that. Sure, I dropped it for a while, but

578
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Speaker 1: then during the pandemic I picked it back up. Ableton

579
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Speaker 1: Live had a I was gonna say, are you like

580
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Speaker 1: working an ovation pad? Is that? Like? What are you working?

581
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Speaker 1: I am? I am working with bare bones, all right.

582
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: I got some some bows wireless headphones. If you tell

583
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Speaker 1: any producer that you're producing music on those, they laugh

584
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Speaker 1: at you. Right, I've got the same laptop I used

585
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Speaker 1: to write on. I've got Ableton on their program that

586
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Speaker 1: helps you make music. That's it. That's it. Able You

587
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Speaker 1: have no like you don't have an ovation board. I

588
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Speaker 1: have an no MIDI controller, no Mike's high made ride

589
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: with those speakers. I made a ride with just my

590
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Speaker 1: bows wireless headphones and your laptop. This up here and

591
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Speaker 1: a licensed Yeah, hopefully it's a licensed version of Ableton

592
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Speaker 1: and not a bootleg version. No. Well, for a while

593
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: I was using a bootleg. I thought it. I bought

594
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Speaker 1: the program called We're Weighing the Weeds pops from Music

595
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Speaker 1: to Fota Shift. You're strong suit, like both of you listen,

596
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Speaker 1: both of your strong suits. But let's go to let's

597
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: go to charges kip pop all right, Weekend observations high level.

598
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: So first thing is that this defense is jelling really fast,

599
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: even without Derwin out there, which has been a little

600
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: bit surprising. I mean, I was counting today it's gonna

601
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: be like eight new starters on defense potentially. At You know,

602
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: if you go across the board, you know, starting with

603
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 1: the defensive lineman up front, kle Mac jac Jackson, you know,

604
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 1: just go across the board here. Um. But it doesn't

605
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: look like a group, like a new group of players

606
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 1: doesn't look that way. It looks like they really have

607
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: some cohesion. They're making a ton of plays out there.

608
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: Umnaz Adderly has looked really great with a couple interceptions

609
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: in the past two days, and I think a lot

610
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: of that is because you know, a lot of these

611
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: new pieces have played in the scheme before. You know,

612
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: whether it's klol Mac, whether it's you know, Troy Reader,

613
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: whether it's Sebastian Joseph Day, you can sort of go

614
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: out on the list, Bryce Callahan in the slot. So

615
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: they're all really familiar with the language. And I think

616
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: Troy Reader really spoke well to it yesterday during his

617
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Speaker 1: press conference. It's like, you know, you know the language,

618
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 1: you know how to speak it. And when you come

619
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Speaker 1: into a new defense or a new system, that's usually

620
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: the hardest part is learning how to speak the language.

621
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Speaker 1: But all those guys already know how to do it,

622
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Speaker 1: and I think that's helped ease the transition. So those

623
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Speaker 1: guys are playing, we're really well on defense. Josh Palmer

624
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: looks really good and he's you know, got a little

625
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: bit of a leading that third wide receiver spot. Obviously,

626
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: you know him and Jalen Guyten are going to be

627
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: rotating in their different skill sets, do different things used

628
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: in different situations. But I thought Josh Palmer's looked really great.

629
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: Donald Palm has looked really great. Obviously he was a

630
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: key piece of the offense last year. But just his

631
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: ability to stretch the field, get down the seam. It's

632
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: got great hands, He's made a couple of fins. Has

633
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Speaker 1: to catches in this camp. There was a play yesterday

634
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: off play action or you know, Justin threw a great

635
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: ball over his head, but just the concentration to be

636
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: able to haul that in with Nazatterie right there. You know,

637
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: the competitions, it's hard to get a read here early on,

638
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: just because there's only been a couple of padded practice.

639
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: It's going to take some time to really get a

640
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: feel for how those competitions are going. But obviously right

641
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: tackle you've got Store Norton and Trey Pipkins rotating. You know,

642
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: all three running backs are getting the shot here and

643
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: that's going to be an open competition throughout camp. Yeah,

644
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: those are some some early takeaways. Oh and then one more,

645
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: I mean, Zion Johnson is I was just gonna go

646
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, for people that might not have read

647
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: your peace on practice, you decided to walk all the

648
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: way over. I was kind of getting my eyes on

649
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: it from a field away, but it felt like I

650
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: got a pretty good beat on what what Zion was doing.

651
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: And we were talking about it when the draft happened,

652
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: and we're all, you know, kind of talking about edge

653
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: rushers and oh, there's so many edge rushers and one's

654
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: gonna guaranteed to fall. What if Jamison Williams because of

655
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: the injury slides And then you know they make the

656
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: pick and it's Zion and it's like, oh, okay, yeah,

657
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: I guess that. You know, it's it's usually where the

658
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: highest ranked interior lineman goes. And then you get out

659
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: here and you watch them, Yeah, share your your observations

660
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: of why while it's not a flashy pick, what kind

661
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: of pick that that very well could end up being. Yeah. Well,

662
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: anyone that's been following me know that I love offensive

663
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: line defensive line one on ones because that's where you

664
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: win and lose football games, is in the trenches. The

665
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: first thing I thought of was Rashawn Slater's first rep

666
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: this time last year against Joey Bosa, and I was like, Okay, yeah,

667
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: that guy's gonna be a good left tackle. You just

668
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: can see it right away with their anchor, with their strength,

669
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: with their technique, you know, their hand place and all

670
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. You see it right away like

671
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: this guy's a player or he's not. And I had

672
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: the same exact feeling when I saw Zion Johnson go

673
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: up against these interior defensive linemen earlier this week. It

674
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: was the same feeling. It's like, Okay, yeah, yep, that

675
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: guy's gonna that guy's gonna do it. That guy's gonna

676
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: be a really good guard in this league for a

677
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: long time, you know, whether it was going up against

678
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: Austin Johnson, Sebastian, Joseph Day, Morgan Fox, I mean the

679
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: Fox reps. The rep that he had against him was

680
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: really impressive because that guy's a legit interior pass rusher

681
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: in this league, and he just stood him up. The

682
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: same thing with Spashion just today, just stood him up.

683
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: And I think some of the interior defensive linemen were

684
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: like surprised by how strong this guy is. He's a

685
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: young player in his first training camp and he has

686
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: the strength to do it already. So he Yeah, I

687
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: thought right back to Rashaan from last year and how

688
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: well he didn't his first reps because it's apparent right

689
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: away that they have a legitimate starter at right guard.

690
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: When the old pros center speak sclowingly about him, when

691
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: Matt Feiler speaks sclowingly about him, it's not just hyperbole. Yeah,

692
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Corey's not the court doesn't gush a lot

693
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: about a lot of players like for him to his

694
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: eyes lit up, it's still it was just like, I'm

695
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: glad I don't have to say it, Courty can say it.

696
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: The way he talked about him. You don't hear Corey

697
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: Linsley talk about a lot of players like that. And

698
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: I think that was really not worthy. And I think

699
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: a couple of things that Corey said, you know, he

700
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: said he's smart as hell, like that coming from Corey Linsley,

701
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: he's made his money in this league because of his intelligence.

702
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: For him to say that that means a lot. That

703
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: means that Zion Johnson has a really good head on

704
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: his shoulders. You know, the strength his work ethic. You

705
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: know a couple of words that Corey us as well.

706
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: Just calm and confident. And Rashaan Slater said the same thing, like,

707
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: that's not how you usually talk about rookie offensive lineman

708
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: when they come into camp. It's usually like, yeah, they're

709
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: head swimming a little bit, or you know, they're we're

710
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 1: throwing a lot at him and he's working through it.

711
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: It's no, it's like, this guy's calm, he's confident, he

712
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. He's putting the work in the

713
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: film room, and he's strong as a bull, and like

714
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, he says checking every box. Yeah, it's it's

715
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: like and it's so hard until they get into Coach

716
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: said it live tackling too, especially the running back position.

717
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: You want to see that ability to shed first contact

718
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: to get those extra couple of yards. It's one of

719
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: the things that Austin's as good as anybody in the

720
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: league it doing. But just you know, you can still

721
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: kind of see movement and you can see vision even

722
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: when they're just you know, impads or in shells. Just

723
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: your early impressions of Isaiah Spiller, Yeah, versus when when

724
00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: he's in that rotation and you're just watched them to

725
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: can rep after rep and then all of a sudden,

726
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: twenty eight pops You're you know what you think? Yeah,

727
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: a couple of things with Isaiah. You know, the first

728
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: thing that everyone was talking about when the Chargers drafted

729
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,719
Speaker 1: him was see North South runner, really physical. And then

730
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: the second thing they say is and he's also really

731
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: well rounded and he has some hands and he's a

732
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: good round runner. That part of it has really jumped

733
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: out to me, Like this guy can run routes and

734
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: he's got really good hands, and you see, you know,

735
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: the explosiveness after the catching that sort of thing. So

736
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: that's jumped out. And then I'm just waiting for him

737
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: to get into a preseason game so I can see

738
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: him run somebody over because you know it's going to happen. Huge,

739
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's big, and then he really hits the

740
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: hole and there was like a collision yesterday with Amon

741
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: Agbong Amiga in the hole and I think I was

742
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: standing with you over in the corner of my other watch.

743
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, Like we heard it, and like

744
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: that's what you want with a running back, Like you

745
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: want to hear with those pads because that means you're

746
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: you're you're hitting the hole with physicality and with speed

747
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,719
Speaker 1: and all the things that you're looking for. And so

748
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens in the preseason games. But you know,

749
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: I actually just had a really great conversation with running

750
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: backs coach Derek Foster, and I mean, they're really excited

751
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: about this kid. And he's was the youngest player in

752
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: the draft a draft dress. He's twenty years old one,

753
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: you know, and so you know there's a lot of

754
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: reasons to be excited about him. Um, but you know,

755
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: like everyone's been saying, it's it's really hard to say, Okay,

756
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: this is the leader in this competition because you're not tackling.

757
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: And that's like, you know, the name of the game

758
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: for running back is like how well can you break

759
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: tackles because you're gonna get you're gonna get touched. The

760
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: amount of times you're gonna have a hole where you're

761
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: gonna be untouched is very very very very small. Well,

762
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: without giving anything away that you may write, I mean,

763
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: like I thought twenty five yosh Kelly was running with

764
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: a little bit a lot better. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

765
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: So Derek Foster said that that josh Kill actually put

766
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: on a little weight this offseason. Yes, so he's bigger,

767
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: but he hasn't really lost any of his speed, which

768
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: is I thought was really interesting. Um with Joshua Kelly,

769
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: it's going to be about confidence. He has the skill set,

770
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: like we've all seen him pop runs and been like, wow,

771
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: where has that been? I think it's just he's had

772
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: some fumbles that really inopportune times early in his career.

773
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: It was two times as a rookie and that felt

774
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: like a derail this season. Then he had a fumble

775
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: last year you know the goal line in that Chiefs game,

776
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: and it's like, if he can get past that and

777
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: build up some confidence here through training camp, like you

778
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: can see a really good player, Like I still believe

779
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: in the skill set. I've seen it. I know he

780
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: has it in him. It's just a question of can

781
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: he can he be consistent and can he build up

782
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: that confidence in himself to take over the job. But

783
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: you see the rotation now, like they obviously see the

784
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: same stuff that I'm seeing because he's in there with

785
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: the first team pretty regularly. Um, and we'll see if

786
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: he can put it together in preseason games. That's really

787
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: what's gonna come down to for all these guys. You know,

788
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: I uh, it was yesterday or the day thing, it

789
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: was yesterday, we'd look like complete idiots holding our phones

790
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 1: out pretending like we know what the hell we're looking

791
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: at with with punt you know, get off operations. What'd

792
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: you get on that? I got one point nine? What'd

793
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: you get? I got two point one? What'd you have

794
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: one point two? Well, I just I just did it

795
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: from the time he got the book the start of

796
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: the high cleet idiots that we are. Yeah, and then

797
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: we'll all over Danny Marquineau, former long snapper for John

798
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: Carroll now charger his PR man, to give us a

799
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: little bit of exactly exactly were But look, we've done this,

800
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: We've been doing this a long time. We've watched training

801
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: camp when we've watched the punt operation, and it looks different,

802
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: especially today. They have the ball at the one and

803
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: JK had his heels on the goal line and you've

804
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 1: got to get that thing out quick, and it got out.

805
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: It does to you, to my eyes, it does look different.

806
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: Does it look different to you? Yeah? And you know

807
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: the one guy I don't think we should overlook is

808
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: Josh Harris. Like, they signed an All Pro long snappers. Great,

809
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: what does that do for your operation in all of

810
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: these whether it's field goal upon any of these any

811
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: of these times, when the long snappers on the field,

812
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: like that makes the difference. And the interesting thing to me,

813
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: and I wrote about this yesterday, Troy Readers obviously going

814
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: to be a big part of his special teams union.

815
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a core forward player. That's one of

816
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: the reasons that they signed him. And he started talking about,

817
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, leaders are starting to emerge on who who

818
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: are those leaders on special teams? And he immediately said

819
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: Josh Harris, Like, this guy's been doing it for ten years.

820
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 1: He's an All Pro, he's a pro bowler, he gets

821
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: after in the weight room, and he's a leader on

822
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: this team period offense, defense or special teams, not just

823
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: on special team. So I think you have to start there.

824
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: When when that guy is an all Pro level player,

825
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: it's going to change everything I mean it's the same.

826
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't want to say it's the same thing,

827
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: but similar, Like he bring Corey Lindsley into that offense,

828
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: like the guy that has the ball in his hands,

829
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: that's starting everything off like that. He's an All prolever player.

830
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: What does that do for everyone else? It's a force multiplier.

831
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: The ball explodes off at j K. Scott's foot though,

832
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he can bomb it, you know, you

833
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: and you know we're we're gotta stop watches out, you know,

834
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: But five seconds it seems to me like a pretty

835
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: long time for the ball to be in there, you know.

836
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: And he was pushing that pretty consistently. Um so you

837
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: see that. Um yeah, so you know, I think I

838
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: think it starts with Josh Harrison. I think that's a

839
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: guy that you can't really overlook in terms of in

840
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: terms of why it looks as different as you're saying money, Well,

841
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: with Kenneth banked up right now, with Drew nick dub

842
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: the linebacker position, what have you seen any guys that

843
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 1: that may surprise fans? Nick Neman? Nick Neman looks great.

844
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: I've been really impressed that he had two sacks and

845
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: practice yesterday he had a run stuff. Um, he's working

846
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: in there with the first team defense, you know, with

847
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: all those injuries right now. Um yeah, I mean Damon Lloyd. Yeah,

848
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: another guy that money and I've talked about it a

849
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: little bit, Damon Lloyd yep. Um, you know both of

850
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: those guys, Nagbangumia has been making plays. So I think,

851
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: like a lot of people outside of here talking about

852
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: you know, they're thin a linebacker, they're thin a linebacker,

853
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: But some of these young players can play like they're

854
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: gonna be able to provide you with some depth. Um.

855
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 1: And you know, Nick neman Is is like a really

856
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: really good athlete, you know, and he seems like he's

857
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: put on a little bit of weight. He's got a

858
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: bigger stronger It happens with every rookie going into their

859
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: second year when they have a full off season. Um,

860
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 1: and he looks like in control out there. And and

861
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: he's like another guy that's gonna be a major piece

862
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: on special teams. But among those guys, like he's really

863
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: jumped out to me, I thought he's looked fantastic so far. Yeah.

864
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: The one thing we've also been been watching a lot

865
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 1: pop is the secondary I love the video you posted

866
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: yesterday and your Twitter feed of of coach with just here,

867
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: just the amount of time he was spending with him. Um,

868
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: we've talked to coach to Tom. Seems like everybody at

869
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: the podium at the lectern and I should say it's

870
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: not a podium about style important. It is very important,

871
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: but Bud, Dean Leonard and just kind of you know,

872
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: these guys, especially Special Team watch they're going to be important.

873
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 1: But I think it's been somewhat Again I hate doing

874
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: it because I don't want to get some sort of

875
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: hype train started before they actually start tackling. But just

876
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: kind of watching how this draft classes look, particularly the

877
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: defensive backs, I think has been quite encouraging. Yeah, I'm

878
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: still waiting for for J. T. Woods to make that

879
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: that that splash play, but you know, Jeer Taylor and

880
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: Dean Leonard have really impressed so far. And j Sheer

881
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: Taylor just looks really comfortable in the slot. Like there's

882
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: some guys you put in the slot and they play

883
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: in there and it's just it's too busy in there

884
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: and they just they can't operate in there. He looks

885
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: really comfortable in there and he's made some really good plays,

886
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: you know, on pass breakups, like you know, cutting off

887
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: those out routes out of the slot, and he looks

888
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: he looks really comfortable in there. I think, you know,

889
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: going back to the video I posted, Brandon say always

890
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: out there talking with just Sear Taylor. I think Brandon

891
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: understands how important the depth in the secondary is this

892
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: year because it was an issue last year. And so

893
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,479
Speaker 1: who knows. You know, we don't know if Dean Leonard

894
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: and just Seer Taylor are going to make the fifty

895
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: three man roster, but if those guys are on the

896
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: practice squad and injury happens and they get called up,

897
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: they might be thrown into action, and maybe a five

898
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: minute conversation before practice in training camp gives them that confidence,

899
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: in that push that when they do get on the field,

900
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 1: you know, in those situations, called up from the practice

901
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: squad or whatever, all of a sudden, they're gonna be

902
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: able to perform at a high level. Dean Leonard looks

903
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: the part on the outside. He does like he's got

904
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: some size, he's got some length, and he's not afraid.

905
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: And this is something Brandon said his press coverage, like

906
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: he's not afraid to get up on you in press coverage,

907
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: and he's got the art, he's got the length in

908
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: his arms to do it. He's been beat a couple

909
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: of times. It's gonna happen. He's seventh round picked. But

910
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: he's also had some really competitive reps where he's battled

911
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 1: back on some of those deep routs and had really

912
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: impressive pass breakup. So you know, you got two guys

913
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: there that are playing different positions, but young guys that

914
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: that might be able to find a role on this team,

915
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: whether it's Dean Lender on the outside or jes Ceo

916
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: Taylor in the slot. And depth is going to be

917
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: crucial this year in the secondary as it is every year. Yeah,

918
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: I was speaking to depth in competition the defensive line too.

919
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: I'm really intrigued and I can't wait to get to

920
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: August thirteenth to figure out how this is all going

921
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: to shake out. Behind sevest and Joseph Day and Austin Johnson,

922
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 1: you got Covington, you got Fojoko, you got a Bona.

923
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: Let's goes on around guys, Organ Fox, would you think

924
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: is going to happen there? Defensive line wise? I think

925
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: that the best six guys are gonna make it like

926
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: that's just how it's gonna That's just how how it's

927
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: gonna work out. I don't care where. I don't care

928
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: if you were, you know, hypothetically an undrafted free agent

929
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: at LSU or a first round draft pick out of

930
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. It's gonna be the best guys on the team.

931
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: And Braden Fijoko is playing really well right now. And

932
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: I think early on his career he was a big

933
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: energy guy, right and he's really good against the run,

934
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: but he wasn't really flashing a ton as a pass rusher.

935
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: He's flashing as a pass rusher. You go watches one

936
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: on once. He's obviously putting a ton of work on

937
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: that part of his game. Can he crack the roster,

938
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: You know, we'll see. But you know, in these preseason games,

939
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: I fully expect Jerry Tiller would be playing in these

940
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: preseason games and he's gonna have to show up against

941
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: the run. That's the reality of it. Because you know,

942
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: Morgan Fox they signed because of his interior pass rush skills,

943
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: and that's what Jerry brings the table right now as

944
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 1: an interior defensive linement is he's a he's a decent

945
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: pass rusher, but he has to be better and more

946
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: consistent against the run to be a viable piece of

947
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: this defense. Um. And so there's some fierce competition, and

948
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: we haven't even mentioned Joe Gaziano at a pick six earlier. Earlier, King,

949
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see how it shakes out. I think

950
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: the preseason games are going to be really important. But

951
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think it was a mistake that

952
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: Braden Foco was working with the first team in pass

953
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: rushtras the other day because he's playing well and he's

954
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: making plays, and that's what we have to do as

955
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: a young player in training camp as flash make make

956
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: splash plays, and he's been doing that so far. You two,

957
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: and the assistative for bradon last thing for me, paper

958
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: And it's just a it's a quick lightning round from me. Um.

959
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: Have you ever have you ever been at a set

960
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: where you've had a passifier? Never? Have you ever had

961
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: a glow stick in your hands? Yes? Okay? Have you

962
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: ever put on glow like black light paint on your face?

963
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: Be honest? Probably? Okay, have you ever found yourself with

964
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: your head right in the base bin? Because the music

965
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: spoke to you so much that you could not make

966
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: your way to the floor, but you were in the

967
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: base bin. Okay, what we want to hear it's a

968
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: man who knows how to make music. Then you experience

969
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: those things. Yeah, have you ever done the head scratchers?

970
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: You ever had those that they're like the multiple prongs

971
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: and they put them on your head. What are those?

972
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: They call it a head massager. It's just imagine like

973
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: a spider, right, but the spiders a long stem and

974
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: the legs that come off for this bendable wire and

975
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: you put it on your head and when it comes down,

976
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: it just it's almost like a tickling sensation and kind

977
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: of get the hair on the back of your neck

978
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: to to stand up. If if we were sitting here

979
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: today and we did it, there would be no effect.

980
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: But what Daniel speaking to is perhaps a certain state

981
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: of mind, you know, and when you're feeling the music,

982
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: no comment, you know, you just kind of you get

983
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: that little wire on your head. Different than a guy

984
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: with a lighter. I've never flicking in I've never used one.

985
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: Two things you need to do when you're reading Popper's

986
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: Observations the Athletic listen to ride while doing it right.

987
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: You go on YouTube. Yep, it's out on YouTube. Play

988
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: myself out, pear pear YouTube, Yeah, play you out? What

989
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: does that mean? Play us out? Does that mean? Play

990
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: us out? What does that mean? What does that mean?

991
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: We'll do it lit, We'll do it Litanks Brandon Staley.

992
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 1: Thanks to Daniel Popper. Keep it going. I thought, I mean, listen,

993
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to pull you, trying to play out. We'll

994
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: do it lit. There you go, Pear Pear for Matt

995
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: money Smith. I'm Chris Hary. This has been Chargers Weekly.

996
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: Let's ride