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<v Speaker 1>Warring.

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<v Speaker 2>Today's episode contains spoilers for the Alien franchise and some

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<v Speaker 2>other movies that we're going to discuss, including the works

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<v Speaker 2>of Alien Romulus director Feidi Alvarez and others.

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<v Speaker 3>So be warned.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not that big a deal. It's really not

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<v Speaker 1>that big a deal this time.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Jason Contepcion and I'm Joel Money.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa, and welcome back an sorry vision the podcast When

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<v Speaker 2>We Dive Deep. It's your favorite shows, movies, comics and

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<v Speaker 2>pop culture coming to you from IRT Podcasts. We're bringing

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<v Speaker 2>you two episodes a week, every Tuesday and Thursday.

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<v Speaker 5>In today's episode, we're concluding Xenomorph week by taking a

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<v Speaker 5>deep dive into Alien Romulus. First up, looking at the

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<v Speaker 5>trailers and featurettes of Alien Romulus to kind of dig

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<v Speaker 5>underneath the film and see what we can expect. Then

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<v Speaker 5>we're doing a two part air lock. In part one,

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<v Speaker 5>we're looking at director Fadie Alvarez's past films and possible

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<v Speaker 5>influences for the new film Alien Romulus. And then in

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<v Speaker 5>part two, we're gonna discuss the films that shaped the

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<v Speaker 5>Alien franchise. And then finally, and what if, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>predict some box office. But before we talk about Alien,

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<v Speaker 5>we're gonna go to previously on with Rosie, What's in

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<v Speaker 5>the News, Rosie and Jason, and now.

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<v Speaker 2>Previously on and News. First up, Paramount is closing its

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<v Speaker 2>television arm. This is a devastating hit to Paramount and

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<v Speaker 2>to the Los Angeles economy. Paramount sent out a memo

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<v Speaker 2>this week announcing that they want to cut five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars in costs by the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>What does this mean. This means they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna start spinning off the all of Paramounts television wearers

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be for sale, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people are going to be out of work.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what speeds.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just absolutely wild, Like it's bad times. And this

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<v Speaker 4>is also one of those weird things that's coming out

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<v Speaker 4>of the monopolizing culture where like you're losing Hollywood history.

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<v Speaker 3>They would rather just save some money than try and you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, work out a way to actually keep stuff on.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I mean, let's be real.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the company that made The Office, So I'm

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<v Speaker 4>saying like they had the juice at one point, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we've now they've mostly been making stuff for other studios

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<v Speaker 4>or other streaming So are we surprised, Probably not, but

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<v Speaker 4>it is a it's I feel bad for all the

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<v Speaker 4>people who are going to lose their jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Up next, D twenty three was this weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Rosie and Baygi said, we're saving the news for no

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<v Speaker 3>nes SDCC.

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<v Speaker 2>Heavin Weggy said, we gave you Robert Downey Junior at

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<v Speaker 2>Comic Con and we're saving all the best bits for us.

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<v Speaker 2>And we got new trailers from Agatha all along iron Heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Skeleton Crew ever Born Again? Uh, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff you can see in leaks. I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 1>propose that you break the.

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<v Speaker 3>Law, but I'm just saying should go and find those leaks.

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<v Speaker 3>But they do.

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<v Speaker 1>Exact Internet as a wild place.

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<v Speaker 2>So imagining that we did see the leaks, the hypothetically,

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<v Speaker 2>if we had seen the leaks, what would we think

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<v Speaker 2>of some of these trails?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so the only the only two we would have

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<v Speaker 4>to watch via the leaks in this hypergagical situation would

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<v Speaker 4>be Born Again and Ironheart. So what were your thoughts, hypothetically.

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<v Speaker 2>Hypothetically extremely stoked for Born Again? I would be hypothetically

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<v Speaker 2>so thrilled if say the Punisher was in it, I

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<v Speaker 2>would be so incredibly thrilled If, as one would expect,

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<v Speaker 2>Kingpin was in it, I would be so incredibly thrilled if, say,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a clip of Daredevil and the Punisher forming

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<v Speaker 2>an uneasy alliance to apparently take down crime in the.

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<v Speaker 1>City, including the Kingpin.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that, hypothetically, if I had watched the leak,

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<v Speaker 2>I would be pretty excited about a project that I

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<v Speaker 2>was initially excited about, then became less excited about, and

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm excited about again.

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<v Speaker 1>Your thoughts, Yeah, Hypothetically, isn't that.

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't that the Johnny of MC you found in twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty four? Something looks good, Yeah, something went wrong, Something

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<v Speaker 4>looks good again. Look Kingpin dad eveling conversation. That's all

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<v Speaker 4>I want to see. So hypothetically, I would have been

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<v Speaker 4>very happy. I also do think it's very interesting. We

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<v Speaker 4>had that they're going to have White Tiger is going

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<v Speaker 4>to be in this show, which was a character that

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<v Speaker 4>we thought was going to be in Black.

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<v Speaker 3>Panther two, but they weren't.

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<v Speaker 4>So very interesting. Hypothetically, what did you think of the

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<v Speaker 4>Iron Heart?

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty excited about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I think new costume costume, which I think is

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<v Speaker 2>you know, part of the course for for any Stark adjacent,

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<v Speaker 2>any any character from the Stark Coaching Tree, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to change that costume every single time out. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was expecting to see that. But it looks cool and

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<v Speaker 2>I am excited to see it.

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<v Speaker 4>In our discord big fans of the new c Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I love the New ste If. They felt okay, so

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<v Speaker 4>Gallat and crew we were able to just watch it legally.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, Disney released it, so obviously that was the

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<v Speaker 4>only one we watched.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this looks delightful. Amblin vibes. Goonies in space.

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<v Speaker 2>Goonies and space is the perfect way to put it right.

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<v Speaker 4>And that to me, like, I just think that looks

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<v Speaker 4>so good. I love the baby Max Rebo car. He

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<v Speaker 4>looks so cute, also very interested. This is my one

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<v Speaker 4>prediction for this show is like they meet jud Law,

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<v Speaker 4>they kind of say, oh, you must be a Jedi.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming he's not a Jedi.

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<v Speaker 4>That's like my big prediction is he'll be some Force

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<v Speaker 4>user and he'll help them through this situation, but he's

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<v Speaker 4>not truly a Jedi.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>One big question about this show, Jason, what did you

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<v Speaker 4>think about the opening kind of new introduction of this

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<v Speaker 4>world where they're essentially living in like space suburbs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which is something we've like never seen in some ways.

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<v Speaker 2>I I'm intrigued. I'm frankly intrigued. I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>a new aesthetic palette clearly for the show, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think one that I'm always one for expanding the universe,

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<v Speaker 2>showing us things we've never seen before, and so I'm intrigued.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to see.

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<v Speaker 3>How it fits into what we exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there like a middle class that like lives out.

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<v Speaker 4>Gelicly, or is there like is it like some weird

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<v Speaker 4>like covered with a bubble like little space colony that

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<v Speaker 4>they made at some point.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm interested.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's John Watts who smashed it with those three

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<v Speaker 4>Spider Man movies starring Tom Holland, so I think the

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<v Speaker 4>vibes are good. Also, David Lowry is directing an episode.

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<v Speaker 4>I love him so much. I love The Green Knight.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think that movie is like a masterpiece. And

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<v Speaker 4>the Daniels, the Daniels and Isaac Chung who just did Twisters,

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<v Speaker 4>So really, this sounds like it should be directly targeted

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<v Speaker 4>at me, and I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a Thunderbolt leak if we wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, hypothetic, sypathetically, we've seen the Thunderbolts leak. What did

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<v Speaker 4>you think of the new more comics accurate ghost costion?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yes, I liked seeing our our good friend Bucky

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<v Speaker 2>Barnes was fun moments from him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very Russian.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like a Yelena movie, looks.

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<v Speaker 1>Film and the.

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<v Speaker 5>Sham so good.

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<v Speaker 3>Why wouldn't you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>And again I'm intrigued. If this is gonna be kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like the Gray Slash Bad Avengers, then I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's something actually the MCU needs.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, let's do let's do a theory on this. So

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<v Speaker 4>they're presenting this movie even if you haven't seen a leak,

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<v Speaker 4>you will.

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<v Speaker 1>Like us agent us.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like us agent.

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<v Speaker 4>But this this movie is called Thunderbolts with an asterisk

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<v Speaker 4>at the end.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think that means?

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<v Speaker 4>I think they might just change this to being called

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<v Speaker 4>the Dark Avengers at this point, like that is my

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<v Speaker 4>my thesis or some kind of maybe like Thunderbolts colon something.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm very interested because they the asterisk is hard

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<v Speaker 4>to ignore.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to ignore, and I have no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>it could mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I like your idea that it could be the Dark Avengers,

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<v Speaker 2>although I will say, do you think this is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be so Dark Avengers?

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<v Speaker 5>Was?

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<v Speaker 1>The Dark Avengers were full.

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<v Speaker 2>On villains, villains costplaying as heroes doing villain as ship.

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<v Speaker 2>This seems more like anti heroes costplaying.

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<v Speaker 1>As do the bad guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and oh that's true.

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<v Speaker 4>I like the idea where it's basically in the yeah

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<v Speaker 4>version of the original kind of fund Yeah, okay, so

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<v Speaker 4>this is interesting. Super producer Aaron has just put in

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<v Speaker 4>Apparently on some of the graphics it looks like the

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<v Speaker 4>Thunderbolts asterisk is made of like bullets, So it might

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<v Speaker 4>just be like a visual, little cheeky nod rather than

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<v Speaker 4>anything big. But I'm still, you know, I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>always thinking with my tin hat on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so here's my here's I think it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>an outlaw movie. I think this is gonna be. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a team that is put together with the idea

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<v Speaker 2>that the government needs a more controllable set of superheroes

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<v Speaker 2>that will just.

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<v Speaker 3>Do suicide squad for them, avel that.

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<v Speaker 2>This movie will be about the thunderbolts, going, wait, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to do that, like starting out that way

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<v Speaker 2>and then eventually doing whatever it is the right.

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<v Speaker 1>The right quote unquote right thing that.

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<v Speaker 2>The rest of the MCU is going to feel like

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<v Speaker 2>is the wrong thing, But really they did the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be a movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Next, let's hit some some quick news rapid fire announcements

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<v Speaker 2>we got and or season two behind the scenes footage

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<v Speaker 2>was shown and it seems like people excited about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Mandalorian and Grogu.

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<v Speaker 2>Folks, we've been saying, many critics have been saying, Kathleen Kennedy,

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<v Speaker 2>where is the where is.

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<v Speaker 1>The Star Wars movie offering? Here? It is Mandalori is

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<v Speaker 1>in theaters twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely bonkers that it's been like almost ten years since

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<v Speaker 4>we had at.

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<v Speaker 1>It's truly weird.

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<v Speaker 4>Does the time going and what it feels like it's

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<v Speaker 4>been a long time time.

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<v Speaker 3>Just stop marching on, please, we're getting old.

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<v Speaker 1>Times young people. Stop doing that. Stop being young.

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<v Speaker 4>Stop doing it, guys, stop being young. It goes very

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<v Speaker 4>fast when you get old like us. Okay, Percy Jackson

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<v Speaker 4>and the Olympiads bind the seas footage. If you haven't

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<v Speaker 4>watched the first season of Percy Jackson's on Disney Plus,

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<v Speaker 4>definitely go and watch it. I think it is actually

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<v Speaker 4>one of the most underrated shows on Disney Plus. Really

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<v Speaker 4>adapts the books in a beautiful way. So I think

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<v Speaker 4>if anyone's missing a little bit of fantasy Ya in

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<v Speaker 4>their life, go check that out.

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<v Speaker 3>Mafassa the way It's happening.

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<v Speaker 4>Whoa December twentieth is coming out this year, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh snow More not snow A hitting hitting theaters March

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five. Toy Story five here.

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<v Speaker 4>Apparently it's like Evil buzz It's like many evil buzzes.

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<v Speaker 1>Multi multiverses. So twenty twenty one two.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, wait a minute. Frozen three and four.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm excited. I'm in.

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<v Speaker 3>They want money, I get it. The songs are banging.

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<v Speaker 4>Best x Men.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not an X Men movieh my god, that's so true.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Incredibles three, the Best Fantastic four.

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<v Speaker 4>For Maana on Thanksgiving. I feel like that's really close,

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<v Speaker 4>but sure, okay. Avatar, Look, I just got to say

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<v Speaker 4>something here. Avatar, Fire and Ash December nineteenth, twenty eighty five.

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<v Speaker 4>Good for all you Avatar lovers, but can I just

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<v Speaker 4>say this man personally made sure that Avatar the Last

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<v Speaker 4>Airbender could not just be called Avatar, and they had

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<v Speaker 4>to add the Last Airbender and then persisted.

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<v Speaker 3>To go on and make a movie about all the

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<v Speaker 3>different elements.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think, James Cameron, I'm annoyed at you for Avatar,

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<v Speaker 4>Fire and Ash. Let's see what happens in that one

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<v Speaker 4>December nineteen, twenty twenty five. It's gonna make a little mind.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna make so much money.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll be right back after a quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>Freaky Friday sequel, Lindsay Lohan back in the with Jmie

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<v Speaker 2>Jamie Lee Curtis in her iconic dual role.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding? Incredible? Ten out of ten.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually super excited about Freaky Friday, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful Both Freaky Friday and the original Freaky f like

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<v Speaker 2>just great movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Pixar returning with a.

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<v Speaker 2>Bunch of originals that we can finally because it's been

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<v Speaker 2>too many sequels. Z Utopia two with Khie Kwon joining

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<v Speaker 2>the cast as Gary Troy.

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<v Speaker 1>I love, yeah, I'll do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll simply watch anything that he's involved of folks. Tron

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<v Speaker 2>is Back tron Aries, starring Evan Peters Jared Leto in

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<v Speaker 2>the role he was born to play.

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<v Speaker 3>Jared Laugh. Let's cut him out, Evan Peters and Greley.

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<v Speaker 3>That sounds good to me. I love also.

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<v Speaker 4>Following the rule of tron movies having to have like

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<v Speaker 4>soundtracks that will outlive them forever, like the soundtrack from.

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor They're Gang. Oh. Some of the best curators.

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<v Speaker 4>Of fantastic electronic music at this moment, treent Rezna and

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<v Speaker 4>nine Inch Nails to score the upcoming franchise film Deranged.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. That's perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Stitch live action Stitch, he's in live action. That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>You were a fan of Lelo and Stitch, Well, what

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<v Speaker 2>if it was just Stitch in live action?

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<v Speaker 1>Beloved Agent six twenty six were commonly known.

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<v Speaker 2>As Stitch loves to Eat Little Beautiful Alien. This creature's

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<v Speaker 2>dramatic entrance will will burst onto screens in the summer

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>The funny thing is about these, like the live action remakes,

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<v Speaker 4>is they kind of always make money. But I don't

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<v Speaker 4>feel like there's been one yet where everyone's gone, Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>this one needed to exist, so I'm interested to see

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<v Speaker 4>the reaction to CG.

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<v Speaker 3>Stitch. People were loving it, so let's see if the

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<v Speaker 3>Lilo and Stitch remake is that one way. You're kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like, oh, I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Really glad this exists, because the rest of them, especially

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<v Speaker 4>snow White with the magical creature dwarves in comments, I

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<v Speaker 4>think that that's not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't need to see that.

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<v Speaker 4>But Frozen the Musical is coming to Disney Plus in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>And guess what, I've seen it in the theater. It's great.

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<v Speaker 1>What about more musicals?

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<v Speaker 2>How about Hercules the musical premiere on London's West End

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<v Speaker 2>next year.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Hercules. I love the songs that sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>And then in the what took You So Long?

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<v Speaker 3>News wild that it took this long?

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<v Speaker 2>It's the greatest show, The Greatest Showman will be adapted

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<v Speaker 2>into musical form, will Wow you know, will Wolvere be

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to take part somehow?

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows?

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<v Speaker 3>It feels like he will at least be there. Like

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<v Speaker 3>for the mister Jackman clan, he loves, he loves to

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<v Speaker 3>do music.

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<v Speaker 1>He loves to do music.

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<v Speaker 4>O the good news for mister Jackman, Deadpool and Wolverine

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<v Speaker 4>passes one billion dollars in box office fills.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, God damn, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Did not know if it was gonna happen, but it happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Second movie of twenty twenty four to break the one

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<v Speaker 4>billion dollar water mark, the first being Inside Out two.

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<v Speaker 3>Second MCU movie to break.

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<v Speaker 4>One billion dollars since kind of crazy and they needed it.

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<v Speaker 4>They're gonna be eating out on this billion dollar success

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<v Speaker 4>for a long time. Get ready to see a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of cameos. If you've ever wanted to see a cameo,

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<v Speaker 4>you will get to see it in the coming years.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you feel about Deadporort and Wolverine after we

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<v Speaker 4>saw it like that?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel the same. A super fun movie. I personally

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<v Speaker 1>loved the all jokes, all the time format and I

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<v Speaker 1>liked it. I liked it. I continue to like it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was very funny to be on holiday.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I just was on holiday with my nephew who's

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<v Speaker 4>like ten, and he just kept telling me things that

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<v Speaker 4>happened in the movie, and I was like, I know,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, do you want to go see

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<v Speaker 4>it then? But he doesn't want to because he's too

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<v Speaker 4>scared because he knows it will be really violent. But

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<v Speaker 4>because he was in America, I was like, we could

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<v Speaker 4>go see it, you know, but he kept telling me

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<v Speaker 4>funny things. Is it true?

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<v Speaker 3>Spoiler A lot nice? Pool dies? Why did they kill him?

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<v Speaker 3>My head?

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<v Speaker 4>He's just so nice, like all these kind of hilarious

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<v Speaker 4>Oh he loves Bye Bye Bye by n Sync now,

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<v Speaker 4>because I guess everyone talks about how it's on Spotify

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<v Speaker 4>Bye Bye.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye from the Deadpool Wolverine movie.

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<v Speaker 1>How insane?

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<v Speaker 5>Is that?

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<v Speaker 4>Just unbelievable? But yeah, the kids are loving it. The

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<v Speaker 4>ten year olds love Bye Bye Bye.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently.

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<v Speaker 2>Up next, a movie that we were in sh Bye

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<v Speaker 2>but that is apparently very bad, has bombed at the

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<v Speaker 2>box office. Borderlands has made a world wide box office

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<v Speaker 2>figure of sixteen point five million dollars. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>it is one of I haven't checked it lately, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe it is one of the worst reviewed

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<v Speaker 2>movies in the history of the Rotten Tomatoes platform.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it debuted to zero percent and then that went

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<v Speaker 4>up to four. So let's see where it sits now.

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<v Speaker 4>Now it is sitting at an impressive nine percent with

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<v Speaker 4>a fifty two percent audience score, So the audience aren't

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<v Speaker 4>even loving it. I have to say, Jason, something I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't know about this movie is that it's PG thirteen,

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<v Speaker 4>which seems absolutely deranged if you've ever played a Borderlands. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>so I'm very interested in what happened with that.

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<v Speaker 3>And Yeah, apparently the funniest thing is though the CEO

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<v Speaker 3>of Gearbox, Randy Pitchford, he.

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<v Speaker 4>Was like, so, what you're saying is you love the

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<v Speaker 4>Boordland games and you just want another game.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, guess what.

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<v Speaker 4>Fourth Boardland game is coming. So I like how he

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<v Speaker 4>turned it around.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, I love a fast paced, a looter shooter.

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<v Speaker 2>One little wrinkle in this the Borderlands ongoing story. Was

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<v Speaker 2>Eli Roth the right twice for this? I think clearly

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<v Speaker 2>no at this point. Also, I wanted to point out

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<v Speaker 2>this is my favorite little wrinkle in this. Craig Mason

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<v Speaker 2>screenwriter Shordnaire, Chernobyl, et cetera. It was reported like maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a year ago that he was like the screenwriter of Borderlands,

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<v Speaker 2>and then various reports said that either Craig fought to

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<v Speaker 2>have his name removed yeah, or Craig has since come

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<v Speaker 2>out and said that he'd no, that was a false report.

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<v Speaker 2>I never had anything to do with Borderlands. Craig Mazon

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<v Speaker 2>wants you to know very strongly.

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<v Speaker 1>That he didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>He was not He was not involved in that piece

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<v Speaker 2>of ship movie at all.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's pretty pretty nuts stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, pretty hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Next up, Craven the trailer, folks, Rosie your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 3>Look, look okay? Does it look good? No? Will I

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<v Speaker 3>be in line to see it?

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<v Speaker 1>Correct?

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<v Speaker 3>Look? The truth is.

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<v Speaker 4>One thing I really like about this trailer is like

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<v Speaker 4>the action looks interestingly choreographed, like he is really killing

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<v Speaker 4>people with bear traps. And yeah, I also like, I

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<v Speaker 4>love Aaron Taylor Johnson, like very deeply and very I believe.

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<v Speaker 3>It's camp Yeah, question Mark'd be great, He's he's campy.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, I find it so funny that they cast Ariana

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<v Speaker 4>de Bo's and they made her like she's like a suave,

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<v Speaker 4>slinky Calipso I'm like, guys, have you ever read a comic?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 4>Probably not, but you know what, I will be watching

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<v Speaker 4>this movie. I love the moment where he like chopped

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<v Speaker 4>off a guy's head with a bear trap. I also

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<v Speaker 4>think it's so funny that they really are doing what

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<v Speaker 4>I believe was like a meme for such a long time,

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<v Speaker 4>which was like he's gonna be like a Craven who

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<v Speaker 4>hunts hunters instead of hunting animals, and that is absolutely

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<v Speaker 4>what he is doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Is happening in this trailer. Yeah, it looks great.

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<v Speaker 4>Looks like they kind of moved away from the supernatural

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<v Speaker 4>of it, which I feel like was a big point

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<v Speaker 4>and a big kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the first trailer that people were dragging on.

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<v Speaker 2>I also love that we're in Russell Crowe's like paycheck era.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, like the end.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's done multiple exorcism movies at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just out here multiple He's just out here playing.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, give me that check. I know what does

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<v Speaker 3>this mean for the deep intricate lore of.

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<v Speaker 4>The MCU or Love and Thunder That Zeus is also

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<v Speaker 4>the dad of Craven, whose brother is the chameleon, and

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<v Speaker 4>we see get a glimpse of him in his non

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<v Speaker 4>chameleon form.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, you know what I always find really funny why

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<v Speaker 3>the movie people love Rhyany, Like, I'm not chriticized. He's

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<v Speaker 3>a cool costume, a cool character.

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<v Speaker 4>But like, is that just because that's the only people

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<v Speaker 4>that the only villain they can like get? But I

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<v Speaker 4>always think we got Paul Giamati, Rhino like, what was that?

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<v Speaker 3>Now this rhino? Like, what is it about rhino? But

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<v Speaker 3>I will say rhino effects.

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<v Speaker 1>They looked pretty good. Looks pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>Up next new Rings of Power trailer and folks Caler

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<v Speaker 2>Brimble is going through it having a bad time.

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<v Speaker 3>Babe, he is going through it. It's gonna be bad

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<v Speaker 3>for him.

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<v Speaker 4>If you've read the book spoiler Alla, it's gonna get

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<v Speaker 4>worse for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Looks beautiful, looks so expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like the whole time.

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<v Speaker 4>You're watching it, you're like, I can feel every dollar

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<v Speaker 4>of the billion dollars that they put on this screen.

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<v Speaker 2>I went back and I threw on just any random

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<v Speaker 2>scene from My Return of the King, like Ultimate Edition,

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<v Speaker 2>Blu Ray.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the show looks as good.

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<v Speaker 2>As that, Like it's uh, it's pretty nuts. The quality

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<v Speaker 2>bring to the screen. Yeah, it looks like a million

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<v Speaker 2>zillion bucks.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it really does. It looks fantastic. I just lots

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<v Speaker 4>of creatures. We talked about that in the last trailer.

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<v Speaker 4>We get to see more bar Rock here.

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<v Speaker 3>Lots of horse battles.

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<v Speaker 4>When we were watching this earlier, Joelle's mouth was open

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<v Speaker 4>the whole time.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a gate.

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<v Speaker 4>She was like, I can't believe what is going on.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't believe what I'm seeing.

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<v Speaker 3>A darn Nord's here. Of course, gonna get to know

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<v Speaker 3>more about his relationship with Sour.

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<v Speaker 4>We get Sour on with his aim and style wig

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<v Speaker 4>that you know, they're just like straightening uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they're just straightening it up.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, we will see it. Looks looks very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks very very good. And that is it for news.

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<v Speaker 5>And now that we're done with the news, we're heading

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<v Speaker 5>to the air lock to talk Geno morphs in all

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<v Speaker 5>and Robbie check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's jump in.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start with the uh the teaser trailer, the first

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<v Speaker 2>most recent teaser trailer and then the final version of

0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:06.879
<v Speaker 2>the trailer, both released you know in recent weeks. Let's say, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>should we just watch them in real time?

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<v Speaker 5>We can't. I'm about it, Yeah, t shir.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I love right away, texture in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing I missed about from Alien three and then

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<v Speaker 2>it's Alien Resurrection is like I need steam and dust

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<v Speaker 2>in the air.

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<v Speaker 5>It's vital you immediately. I think in a recent episode

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<v Speaker 5>when we were talking about Star Wars, there's that scene

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<v Speaker 5>where they're in the jungle and there's just it's no

0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:39.400
<v Speaker 5>mist there. It's all dry, and you're like, I don't

0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:45.159
<v Speaker 5>feel involved in the space. This gives such like just

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<v Speaker 5>the deep space dark shadows kind of uh oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 5>what's the video game I'm speaking thinking of dead Space. Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>the first time I saw the trailer, I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>this is very dead space, and I'm absolutely here for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I completely agree. Yea dead Space is very alien. He's

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<v Speaker 2>super classic. You can definitely feel the horror vibes that

0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:11.600
<v Speaker 2>they're going for. And then the final trailer, which gives

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<v Speaker 2>us more of the kind of background story and context.

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<v Speaker 2>As FEEDI has talked about, Ridley has also talked about interviews.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a story about young colonists in a dead

0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 2>end space colony where your only job is like the

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<v Speaker 2>worst version of jobs. You're either working in like a

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 2>food processing plant or you're a scavenger slash minor. And

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<v Speaker 2>in the course of doing that really shitty blue collar job,

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 2>these young folks stumble upon an abandoned question Mark space

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 2>installation and it apparently is full of face huggers.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen, here's what's really interesting, And there's an interview where

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<v Speaker 5>he was They did a twenty minute preview for press

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<v Speaker 5>and Fienie was saying that he wanted this film to

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<v Speaker 5>be like, I Alien two aliens, when they come to

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:13.360
<v Speaker 5>the planet, You're like, all these children were the last

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:15.880
<v Speaker 5>ones left behind. He's like, that's the film I wanted

0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:19.440
<v Speaker 5>to see, is what happens when it's only the children there?

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<v Speaker 5>And if for a franchise that's been very much about

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<v Speaker 5>mothers making not just space for themselves, but protecting their children,

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<v Speaker 5>it's really interesting to look at a motherless colony of

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<v Speaker 5>children and exploring how they're gonna survive. It's a nice

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<v Speaker 5>turn on the horror we've been experiencing to how to

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:40.159
<v Speaker 5>protect children, to just how do you protect yourselves? And

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<v Speaker 5>also potentially for young women, like we have Rain as

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<v Speaker 5>the main character of the film, and it seems like

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<v Speaker 5>she might be sort of thrust into this motherly position

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<v Speaker 5>ahead of her time, and I'm interested in that as

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<v Speaker 5>an angle of horror.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll get into this more when we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the thematic structure of the Alien franchise and Alien movies,

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 2>but a lot of it, you know, a lot of

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 2>the feel of Alien of course. Notably, Ridley Scott changed

0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:09.640
<v Speaker 2>the main character Ripley from a man to a woman,

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:11.120
<v Speaker 2>just kind of like on a lark.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a lot of deep thinking in his from

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 2>his perspective, but it added this really rich texture of

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:24.680
<v Speaker 2>all of these conversations about a woman as coworker, woman

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<v Speaker 2>as a leader, woman as a mother slash protector slash

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<v Speaker 2>person who can decide what to do with their body.

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<v Speaker 2>All of those conversations happen, and it's really fascinating. I

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 2>hope we get those conversations in this film. A couple

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 2>of fun easter eggs. About thirty seconds in, we see

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<v Speaker 2>that the computer that apparently runs this installation is the

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<v Speaker 2>Mu slash th slash you are nine thousand Mother nine

0:27:54.480 --> 0:28:00.880
<v Speaker 2>thousand That was Mother is the name of the computer

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 2>that ran the Nostromo in the original Alien film. And

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<v Speaker 2>very clearly we're gonna see this is very very horror coded,

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe more explicitly horror coded than any recent Alien film,

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Like obviously the prequels are a different thing, more of

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:25.120
<v Speaker 2>a sci fi adventure kind of thing, and doubling down

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 2>on the original like horror roots of Alien.

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<v Speaker 5>What's really thrilling is if the first okay, so the

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:35.880
<v Speaker 5>first Alien is a hunted House horror movie and Alienyens

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 5>is more like a flashback war horror story of like

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 5>living in your own nightmare of war. I'm curious, like,

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 5>is this uh, you know, I think a lot of

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 5>adolescent horror films or horror films about like young people

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 5>are like the horror of your your changing body and

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 5>the horror of like, I don't know, the the just

0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 5>the trauma of like growing and evolving. I think the

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 5>idea of this being like a dead end sort of

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 5>space gives like the horror of being stuck or like,

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<v Speaker 5>I think we're gonna see almost a regression. Allah, I'm

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 5>having trouble what memes today the book where all the

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 5>kids are stuck on the island.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, and it's the Lord of the Flies.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're going to get a Lord that Flies

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<v Speaker 1>a moment.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen, it's early and I'm kind of looking forward to that.

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<v Speaker 5>I think, you know, we've always seen corporate guys versus

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<v Speaker 5>the miners and really like a class or thing. But

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 5>if you're all in the same class, then I'm I

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 5>imagine what we're gonna see is just a denigration of

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:44.280
<v Speaker 5>like human to animal sort of thing. And that's always

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 5>kind of exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's interesting. I think that there are clear parallels

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 2>here with what we know about Romulus. This is one

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 2>thing we're going to get into. We know a lot

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 2>because they've been releasing a lot, maybe too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>That's suggest to me that the studio thinks they have

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<v Speaker 2>a good movie on their hands, which is extremely positive.

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 2>But okay, So I think it's interesting to look at

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Fete's breakthrough question Mark film Don't Breathe, Don't Breathe one

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 2>and then Don't Breathe two, which were how I really

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 2>first became aware of him, and it feels like a

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 2>very similar setup, right, A group of disaffected young people

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 2>with really like nothing to do in this edge of

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 2>nowhere like crumbling suburb break into a mysterious house where

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 2>they are eventually preyed upon by this like ex military creature,

0:30:54.640 --> 0:31:00.040
<v Speaker 2>human discarded person. And it intersects really well with a

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 2>lot of the themes of Alien as a franchise, which

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 2>are I mean, you kind of put your finger on it,

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:07.960
<v Speaker 2>like a lot of it is about like corporate power

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 2>versus worker power, and it's really about like who's expendable.

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Like in the first Alien, it's blue collar workers. They're

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 2>expendable whatever, Like, let's just get one of them pregnant

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 2>and bring them back and we can make money off

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 2>of the same thing. With Alien two, it's colonists, it's grunts.

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's explicitly this conversation about grunts and how

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 2>their whole job is just to go in and die. Yeah,

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 2>And then Alien three, who's expendable prisoners, We don't care

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 2>about them. Just put them out in the universe somewhere

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 2>and let them run their own affairs, and we don't

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 2>worry too much about it. Let's not worry about alien resurrection,

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 2>but like those are, let's not have that conversation around resurrection.

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 2>But when Alien is interesting, it's an exploration about who

0:31:53.800 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 2>we decide from a societal perspective, we can be comfortable

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 2>with dying, and I think that's going to be a

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 2>part of Alien romulus. It's essentially not just like the

0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 2>fact that these are kids in a nowhere town working

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 2>dead on jobs. It's the power structure in a class sense.

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Why are we okay with these kids dying? Who are

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 2>we okay with just passing away? Who worked in this

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 2>ship that no one cares about and no one even.

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 5>Thinks gosh, I'm having such a brainstorm moment because I'm like, oh,

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 5>is this a reoccurring theme in Feet the Because if

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 5>you think about Evil Dead, like that's a film about

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 5>a group of friends that came together to try to

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 5>help their friend who is an addict get clean. Almost

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 5>all of them have medical experience. She does not. Nobody

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.239
<v Speaker 5>trusts her opinion on what's happening to her point, and

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 5>so she's constantly being told like, no, you need to

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 5>stay here. She's like, I have to get out. Actually,

0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 5>it's not safe here. This is not the way for

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 5>me to do this, and they're like, we're taking away

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 5>all of your agency. And then if we think about Okay,

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 5>I know you don't like Girls Spiders.

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<v Speaker 2>Web, but even that it's a film, I don't think

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 2>it was the best of the speak Larsen, uh, cinematic universe.

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<v Speaker 5>That's totally fair. I was talking to s First the

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 5>other day, like, how does that fit into the larger thing?

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 5>Like is that the Sweetish or the Americans? Like it's

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 5>definitely the Americans, but is it I don't because it's

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 5>a different actress and it's a weird film. It's just

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 5>out there were like we have the ip we must

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 5>make it anyway. I digress. Even that film has moments

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 5>of uh, here's somebody who's like, I can save everyone

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 5>except this one person, and I couldn't save them because

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 5>I have this hang up from being abandoned. You weren't

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 5>worth saving because you hurt me, even though everybody else,

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:31.479
<v Speaker 5>no matter what they did, what was we're saving. So

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 5>that's a really interesting point, And especially if we think

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 5>about who's expendable. Almost always, universally, people like it's not

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 5>the children who are expendable, or at least that's what

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 5>we say, but it'll be interesting to see, like, you know,

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 5>a lot of times we do say children are expendable,

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:47.480
<v Speaker 5>or we don't give them a space. So I hope

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 5>we'll be exploring all of that here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's there's something too about the original Alien

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 2>films where they became. They weren't intended to become, I

0:33:57.000 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 2>don't think, but because of when they came out and

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 2>the structure of those films, they became, you know, this

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of like pro choice parable.

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 1>A woman who refuses to.

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 2>Be impregnated with an alien and fights constantly over the

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:19.840
<v Speaker 2>course of multiple films to not have that happen. And

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 2>I think in this film, you know what else, if

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 2>you look at what other potential dialogues might happen because

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 2>of the wider culture context, certainly a choice narrative is there.

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 2>But I also think with you Know's, there's a story

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 2>at the front of the New York Times today about

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:42.760
<v Speaker 2>how we're entering a point, we're approaching a point where

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:47.280
<v Speaker 2>like various ecological tipping points might happen and the planet

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 2>will never be the same. And I think for you

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 2>know people, maybe fifty and over, that's obviously anxiety inducing,

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:56.400
<v Speaker 2>but you're also like, fuck it, I'm not going to

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 2>be here for the worst part of it. And I

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 2>think maybe part of like the cultural conversation that might

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 2>happen around this movie that we might find yourself responding

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 2>to is we say we care about the kids, but

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 2>like we're not doing anything to allow them to have

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 2>a world.

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 1>We also let them.

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Die in mass shooting events and don't do anything about it.

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:23.799
<v Speaker 2>And I think that there is a larger conversation maybe

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 2>that might come out of this movie, just internally in

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 2>your own mind, about like, do really care about the kids?

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 2>We really care about the world that young people will

0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 2>have I.

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 5>Have chills now, and I'm really excited to be thinking

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 5>about this movie on a much deeper levels because before I.

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Was like, or are we It's back, Like, let's go maybe.

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Up next, we're going to explore the oove of Alien

0:35:46.719 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 2>Romul's director Pete Alvarez, and.

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 1>We're back. Let's discuss Feodie Outre.

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<v Speaker 5>So I really want to talk about Fee as a director.

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 5>Alien is so shaped by whoever's in the director, see, like,

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:15.720
<v Speaker 5>you get a lot of control and power over the direction.

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:16.720
<v Speaker 1>And angle and style.

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 5>I think a lot more than a lot of other

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 5>franchises allow Like usually you're like you need to adhere

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:24.359
<v Speaker 5>to the brand, and Alien it's sort of like we

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 5>want these interesting directors to come in and do a

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 5>lot of interesting things. So Feeni was originally discovered by

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 5>Sam Raimi who saw his short whose title, of course

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:35.959
<v Speaker 5>I can't recall it right now, but saw short was like, Yeah,

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 5>this kid's got it. Brought him in to do Evil Dead.

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 5>Evil Dead really shows that FEEDI has a lot of

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 5>respect for a franchise, understands deeply how to adhere to

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:52.800
<v Speaker 5>the overall style guide while also putting his original fingerprint

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:56.319
<v Speaker 5>on it and making it feel unique and exciting and fun,

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:58.400
<v Speaker 5>and so I think all of that gives us a

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:00.719
<v Speaker 5>lot of hope for what he can do. So here

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 5>we listen to a conversation between him and Release Scott,

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:08.880
<v Speaker 5>and I was wondering if we could play that clip. Guys. Yeah,

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:10.359
<v Speaker 5>So I think he's saying a lot of the same

0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:13.399
<v Speaker 5>things were're saying, which is just he's got this fresh take.

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 5>He's looking for young folks. And I think for I mean,

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 5>Redley's had some issues with some adaptations of his in

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:23.320
<v Speaker 5>the past. I mean, there are how many cuts of

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:26.840
<v Speaker 5>Blade Runner. He's very specific, and so for him to

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 5>have hope and Febie, I think, you know, it makes

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:31.359
<v Speaker 5>me feel less nervous about going to the show.

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Same.

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 2>Let's let's dive into his filmography, starting with twenty thirteen's

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:42.879
<v Speaker 2>reimagining their quotes of the Evil Dead franchise. Evil Dead

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 2>the twenty thirteen version starring Jane Levy, Sheila Fernandez, lou

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Taylor Pucci, Jessica Lucas, Elizabeth Blackmore, and it's essentially the

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:59.720
<v Speaker 2>setup if you're aware of the first Evil Dead movies.

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Remote cabin, evil spirits, people trapped there, fast paced, terrible.

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Horrific images of gore.

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:18.760
<v Speaker 2>And blood, so much blood, and a demon that must

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 2>be uh, you know, expunged from this plane of reality.

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:27.839
<v Speaker 2>I would say it's a what It's a wonderful high

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:33.800
<v Speaker 2>adrenaline like close to the ground horror movie.

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Uh. It lacks maybe the.

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Tinge of Tom and Jerry comedy of the originals mostly

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 2>evil did too, but.

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 1>A terrific, a terrific modern horror film.

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Poene said, uh, twenty seven percent less humor sixteen.

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:57.799
<v Speaker 5>The bodywear goes up to such an extent we were

0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:00.120
<v Speaker 5>just like, oh, like I was. It was like every

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:02.799
<v Speaker 5>three minutes, TI, okay, pause, it's fine, you're here. This

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 5>is all makeup, don't worry about it. Limbs are being

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:11.960
<v Speaker 5>slowly stretched and torn off bodies. There are disgusting bites

0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 5>from zombie children. Who was the one that really Oh

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 5>the nail gun. Anytime a nail gun shows up in

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 5>a movie, I'm like, why are we doing this? Do

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:22.920
<v Speaker 5>we have to? It's so much but it's delightfully scary.

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 5>It's the kind of scary where you're peeking through your fingers,

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:30.840
<v Speaker 5>uses a light and shadow really well, and when he

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:34.280
<v Speaker 5>is having fun, like he's having a lot of fun.

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 5>And so while I do think there's I think we

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:40.799
<v Speaker 5>mentioned before, but there's two sexual assaults within the film

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 5>that I felt were sort of grotesque and unnecessary in

0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:46.840
<v Speaker 5>a way that really wasn't helping plotter, adding to the

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:50.440
<v Speaker 5>horror theaters are just sort of excessive. I think he's

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:53.960
<v Speaker 5>evolved and grown a lot as a director since this film,

0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:56.920
<v Speaker 5>both in his style and in taste of what he's showing,

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 5>you know, slowly, surely growing, And so yeah, I think

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 5>this is a really good resume for like this guy

0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:08.920
<v Speaker 5>can do Alien And then of course we go on

0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:12.760
<v Speaker 5>to his follow up films, which you were explaining earlier,

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:14.080
<v Speaker 5>genuinely horror.

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Twenty Fourteens Don't Breathe also starring Jane Livy. You know,

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 2>this was this was kind of like along with it

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:22.880
<v Speaker 2>follows like a high point.

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:26.839
<v Speaker 1>Of Detroit horror. Detroit, yes, area of horror movies.

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 5>And no only Lovers left alive, So it was like, yeah,

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:33.320
<v Speaker 5>Detroit horror.

0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Barbarian.

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:38.719
<v Speaker 2>There's another one of the recent a class that three

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 2>kids break into a house where they feel like there

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 2>might be stuff worth stealing, but the guy there is

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 2>a blind and absolutely jacked Gulf War veteran who also

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 2>turns out to be a quite sinister person who has

0:40:56.880 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 2>been trapping and impregnating attempting to impregnate his female prisoners.

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 2>It has a lot of the hallmarks that I think

0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:11.920
<v Speaker 2>were established in Evil Dead, which is claustrophobia, intense fear,

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 2>the fear of being hunted.

0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Like survival, hide and go seek, you know, yeah, and

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:23.880
<v Speaker 1>is a truly.

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Creepy and weird film, really weird film that is good.

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Is also one of those.

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Where, much like Evil Dead, I mean, the plot turns

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 2>on a reveal of like jars of frozen sperm, is

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 2>that necessarily in good taste?

0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:44.239
<v Speaker 6>Like?

0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 2>How do you personally feel about that? I was like,

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 2>do I need? That? Feels like too much for me.

0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:56.040
<v Speaker 2>But like another seemingly hallmark of Fete's work, particularly early work.

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Is like did we just go over the line? I'm

0:41:58.760 --> 0:41:59.280
<v Speaker 1>not sure.

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 5>He likes to tap dance on it, he like, because

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 5>on the one hand, you're like, this feels very far,

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:06.600
<v Speaker 5>but on the other hand, you're like, oh, it's really

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:09.400
<v Speaker 5>cementing to me the horror here. It's and it's also

0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:13.239
<v Speaker 5>visually really disgusting, And so for that element of like

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 5>I'm just visually disgusted and equally horrified, like it kind

0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:18.240
<v Speaker 5>of works.

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:19.319
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know.

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 5>I like somebody who's at the very least willing to

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 5>push the boundary. And he seems like the kind of

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:29.399
<v Speaker 5>director who's like not very concerned with what people think

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:32.239
<v Speaker 5>about his films, which is kind of an ideal right now,

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:34.400
<v Speaker 5>it's just what he's like, I made this film for me.

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:37.840
<v Speaker 5>I hope you like it. It's like a really interesting

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 5>kind of he's very hands on, he said, I can't

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:44.719
<v Speaker 5>remember if it's in the Sam Raimi talkback or in

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 5>the UH after the press screening, but he talks about

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:53.279
<v Speaker 5>how they made amatronic face huggers, and he's like, if

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:55.760
<v Speaker 5>you see a face hugger and it's submerged in water,

0:42:56.360 --> 0:43:00.279
<v Speaker 5>I'm holding the camera filming that I'm actually moving and

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 5>trying to get So he's like very tactile and wants

0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 5>to be very like involved and invested in the overall look.

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 5>And he said, he's like that's how he starts to

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:11.719
<v Speaker 5>see the film. He's not like a film school guy.

0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:14.720
<v Speaker 5>He's the guy who just constantly was stealing like friends

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:17.399
<v Speaker 5>parents cameras and making movies with his friend. He said,

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:19.200
<v Speaker 5>he would like edit in camera, which, if you know

0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:22.839
<v Speaker 5>anything about filming, is tremendously hard because you have to

0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 5>like hear the length of film and then align the

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:28.759
<v Speaker 5>shot and then make sure your transitions from one shot

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 5>to the other what make sense to your audience. Like

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 5>it's a really delicate process. And so I think, you know,

0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:37.879
<v Speaker 5>I'm hoping we're seeing more of a return to because

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:40.120
<v Speaker 5>we look at franchises like Star Wars has definitely been like, Okay,

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 5>we're gonna get out of the volume and away from

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:44.799
<v Speaker 5>these blue screens. Lord of the Rings with Rings of

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:47.399
<v Speaker 5>Power really tripled down on that. They're like, we're going

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:50.319
<v Speaker 5>all over the world, and so it's exciting to see

0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:52.279
<v Speaker 5>franchises be like, we really want to bring back that

0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:54.919
<v Speaker 5>tactile viewing experience.

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's been so much a part of this

0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:01.800
<v Speaker 2>movie's marketing, both in the behind the scenes, which again

0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 2>it's really notable how much stuff from this movie is

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 2>out there in the world. Then you could you know,

0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 2>it's twenty minutes or so has already been screened.

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Speaker 1>And then there's this.

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:16.919
<v Speaker 2>Quite long and extensive behind the scenes video that came

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:21.800
<v Speaker 2>out recently, and it really delves into the practical, practical effects,

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:26.000
<v Speaker 2>and it's clearly something that I think studios in general

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:30.839
<v Speaker 2>understand that fans want, particularly in the horror space, Like

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 2>you want something that looks like it's there in the

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:42.240
<v Speaker 2>room with the people who are scared of it, and.

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 1>That's a big part of it.

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:46.920
<v Speaker 2>It's also like there's this been this cool like VHS

0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:53.480
<v Speaker 2>version of some run of the film that's been given

0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:58.440
<v Speaker 2>to influencers, and there again is this clear nod to nostalgia,

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:04.120
<v Speaker 2>the old way of doing film, this kind of like gritty,

0:45:04.520 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 2>lived in looking world, and the suggestion being like this

0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 2>is not going to be CG where you see too

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:17.080
<v Speaker 2>much of the thing, You're gonna feel like that thing

0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:19.400
<v Speaker 2>is there in the shadows. The face huggers are on

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:22.480
<v Speaker 2>the ground scurrying around, and it's going to be scary.

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:24.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited for that part of it, and it's cool

0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 2>that it seems like they understand that the fans want that.

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:30.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I wanted to ask you on the line of

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:34.479
<v Speaker 5>like marketing and we've seen a lot. Do you think

0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 5>we've seen too much? Have we crossed a line?

0:45:38.320 --> 0:45:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think there's too much of this movie out there.

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Again, I think that I take it as a positive.

0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:47.640
<v Speaker 2>It tells me that they think that they have a

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:50.960
<v Speaker 2>good movie that people will want to see, and that

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:54.520
<v Speaker 2>they're excited about their movie, because you know, marketing is

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 2>a limited resource and you can you There are any

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:04.240
<v Speaker 2>number of examples the recent Borderlands debacle, for instance, where

0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 2>you just know from the lack of stuff that you've

0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:10.440
<v Speaker 2>heard about the film that the studio.

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:13.200
<v Speaker 5>Yes, nah nah, please don't come so fine.

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:16.800
<v Speaker 2>The fact that they're going this hard for this movie

0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:21.839
<v Speaker 2>tells me that they like it. Now, there's just too

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:22.359
<v Speaker 2>much out there.

0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:24.359
<v Speaker 1>What do you think, I mean, this is too there's like, yeah,

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:26.160
<v Speaker 1>so much already out there.

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:29.720
<v Speaker 2>For weeks, there's been like huge chunks of the movie

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:31.200
<v Speaker 2>out there, I mean.

0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:32.839
<v Speaker 5>Weeks, and because I mean at the top of the year,

0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 5>I remember hearing the actors on social media talking about

0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:39.320
<v Speaker 5>we just shot the scene. It was so crazy. Someone

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 5>was like finally ill from watching it was practical and

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 5>you're just never gonna believe it. So for weeks I've

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:45.160
<v Speaker 5>sort of been on end of my see being like,

0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:47.720
<v Speaker 5>oh my god, Alien it's coming and it's gonna be crazy,

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 5>and so I'm so like I'm and especially because there's

0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:53.000
<v Speaker 5>so many like new faces in here. That's always a

0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:55.440
<v Speaker 5>really exciting Like if you're a person who follows marketing

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:57.359
<v Speaker 5>and PR for films, like when there's a bunch of new,

0:46:57.480 --> 0:46:59.840
<v Speaker 5>very talented people coming up, like PR gets all excited.

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:01.919
<v Speaker 5>We're introducing you to all these people and it's gonna

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:03.799
<v Speaker 5>be great, and look at their relationships and they really

0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:06.120
<v Speaker 5>like each other and it's so great. So I love

0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:10.239
<v Speaker 5>seeing all of that. But from a film historian perspective,

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:12.919
<v Speaker 5>like if you know anything about the marketing for movie one,

0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:15.840
<v Speaker 5>you're like, wait, what happened here? Because those like no

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 5>one can hear you scream in space and then there's

0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:21.040
<v Speaker 5>a like a maybe an egg. You're not sure what

0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:21.640
<v Speaker 5>you're looking at.

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:22.400
<v Speaker 1>It's all dark and.

0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:24.920
<v Speaker 5>Stars, and they're like, come see it or don't alien

0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:27.960
<v Speaker 5>You're like, hell, yes, it's so exciting, And so I

0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:30.920
<v Speaker 5>think I understand they're like, we gotta get it out there.

0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:34.600
<v Speaker 5>You gotta know what's happening. But there's particularly Eileen wu

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:36.879
<v Speaker 5>Is one of the performers in the film, and they

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 5>have this chest burster scene where they light up and

0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:46.120
<v Speaker 5>you could see almost like an extra Yeah, that should

0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:48.600
<v Speaker 5>not be in a trailer, and it shy be out

0:47:48.600 --> 0:47:50.640
<v Speaker 5>there that should be a shock in the theater.

0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I oh god, no.

0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:55.319
<v Speaker 5>And then they're like it pounds on their chest and

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:56.799
<v Speaker 5>you can hear it cracking. I'm like, that's I don't

0:47:56.840 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 5>want to know this yet. This is I'm sure I'll

0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:03.080
<v Speaker 5>still love it in the theater, but yeah, I practice

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 5>some restraint. I really wish the directors could be like, okay,

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 5>but not these things you're in here.

0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean the releasing the behind the scenes before

0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 2>the movie is out. I this is a very recent development.

0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:18.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if Romulus is the first to do it,

0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:21.680
<v Speaker 2>but it feels like something I have not seen before.

0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 2>And again it feels very notable to me, Like why

0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:29.160
<v Speaker 2>why is it's out there?

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:30.239
<v Speaker 1>This shouldn't be out there.

0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:32.880
<v Speaker 2>But I enjoy seeing it, but like it feels like

0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:33.239
<v Speaker 2>too much.

0:48:33.640 --> 0:48:36.760
<v Speaker 1>You're you're getting into spoiler territory now with your marketing.

0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:39.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, hopefully it works and it brings lots of

0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:41.799
<v Speaker 5>people to seats and because you know, a horror film

0:48:41.840 --> 0:48:44.280
<v Speaker 5>is always better with a packed theater. So we're seeing

0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:47.320
<v Speaker 5>it tonight. How are you feeling. What's your anticipation level.

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm extremely excited.

0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:54.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm like super excited too, Okay, I'm next, We're gonna

0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 2>delve into the themes of the Alien franchise after this,

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:16.200
<v Speaker 2>and we're back. Let's talk about the Alien franchise and

0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:20.240
<v Speaker 2>the things that make Alien feel like Alien. Of course,

0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:24.799
<v Speaker 2>like this is a movie franchise that combines elements of horror,

0:49:24.880 --> 0:49:27.479
<v Speaker 2>sci fi, haunted house and space, etcetera, all these things,

0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:31.160
<v Speaker 2>but what really what are the elements, the thematic elements

0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 2>that make it feel that way? And I would propose

0:49:35.160 --> 0:49:38.480
<v Speaker 2>that it's the following first Alien films. The really good

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Alien films have a exploration of real world power dynamics

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:49.040
<v Speaker 2>within them that includes gender. We talked about particularly the

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:53.560
<v Speaker 2>first two Alien movies as these explorations of women as coworker,

0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:56.879
<v Speaker 2>a woman as a leader, and a mother. With this

0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:01.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, other level of this dialogue about body agency

0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:03.839
<v Speaker 2>and choice that's all wrapped up in this comes part

0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:08.320
<v Speaker 2>and parcel with you know, when your hero is a woman.

0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:13.319
<v Speaker 2>And then this other exploration of the power dynamics within

0:50:13.400 --> 0:50:20.240
<v Speaker 2>society of class, working class versus corporate class. The first

0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 2>four movies really are put in this kind of like

0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:27.919
<v Speaker 2>underclass setting of you know, blue collar mind workers. It's

0:50:28.480 --> 0:50:34.359
<v Speaker 2>blue collar colonists, military grunts, and of course always the

0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:40.200
<v Speaker 2>corporation is the villain, always, always, always, and within that

0:50:40.320 --> 0:50:43.600
<v Speaker 2>is a conversation, as we talked about previously, but who

0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:48.960
<v Speaker 2>does society consider expendable workers, grunts, prisoners, and so on.

0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:54.759
<v Speaker 2>It contains elements of its fear is generated from the

0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:58.799
<v Speaker 2>fear of humans, not just as prey but like yes,

0:50:59.000 --> 0:51:07.239
<v Speaker 2>as prey hunted, but as reproductive vessels for aliens. And

0:51:08.120 --> 0:51:14.920
<v Speaker 2>because the aliens are this completely other kind of insectoid species,

0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:18.080
<v Speaker 2>there is also a feeling within the alien movies of

0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:23.000
<v Speaker 2>this is really rare in even horror movies. It is

0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:29.120
<v Speaker 2>absolutely okay to release your genocidal urges upon this villain.

0:51:29.640 --> 0:51:33.200
<v Speaker 2>It is absolutely fine to say, wherever you find this

0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:37.480
<v Speaker 2>species in the galaxy, wipe it out. And that's not

0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:39.840
<v Speaker 2>a thing you can say about a lot of villains,

0:51:39.920 --> 0:51:42.880
<v Speaker 2>like you know, Predator. You look at the Predator series

0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 2>like you would it would be fucked up to like

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:46.759
<v Speaker 2>wipe out the Predators.

0:51:46.880 --> 0:51:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Not so with the xenomorphs.

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Wherever you find it, kill it. And that's again, yeah,

0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:56.640
<v Speaker 2>it's not a thing that you find in many other

0:51:57.760 --> 0:52:00.200
<v Speaker 2>stories or horror stories. And then it can take is

0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:06.720
<v Speaker 2>a distrust of technology, computer intelligence, and a conversation about

0:52:07.120 --> 0:52:11.359
<v Speaker 2>when is computer intelligence truly dangerous? And I think what

0:52:11.400 --> 0:52:13.960
<v Speaker 2>these films basically come down on is it's too dangerous

0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:16.480
<v Speaker 2>when they are creative. I mean that's you see that

0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:21.279
<v Speaker 2>in uh yeah and Prometheus. Uh you see that in

0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:24.840
<v Speaker 2>the first Alien film. When and when is it too dangerous?

0:52:24.840 --> 0:52:27.719
<v Speaker 2>It's too dangerous when it's creative, which makes it too human. Like,

0:52:27.960 --> 0:52:30.320
<v Speaker 2>I hope that we get all of these elements. I

0:52:30.360 --> 0:52:33.640
<v Speaker 2>think these elements are absolutely key to making Alien feel

0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:36.600
<v Speaker 2>like Alien. And it certainly feels like from the copious

0:52:36.600 --> 0:52:40.560
<v Speaker 2>material that's out there Joell, that we are gonna get

0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:42.840
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna all of these things are going to be

0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:43.520
<v Speaker 2>part of this.

0:52:44.640 --> 0:52:47.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and some of the Kope's material we got. We

0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:50.680
<v Speaker 5>learned that Rain, again, the main character for this film,

0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:55.960
<v Speaker 5>has a brother who is a robot AI and she

0:52:56.000 --> 0:52:58.759
<v Speaker 5>feels fiercely protective with him. So I think immediately like

0:52:59.160 --> 0:53:04.000
<v Speaker 5>we're moving from helper to sibling, huge jump, And it'll

0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:08.000
<v Speaker 5>be an interesting exploration in the fine line between human

0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:11.200
<v Speaker 5>and technology when you bring it into like a familial

0:53:11.440 --> 0:53:15.000
<v Speaker 5>space and again not a mother to child spaces. We've

0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:17.840
<v Speaker 5>seen sort of explored and raised by wolves, which is

0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:23.040
<v Speaker 5>more Alien stuff, but in that sibling we're sort of

0:53:23.080 --> 0:53:25.560
<v Speaker 5>both on equal footing and we're both figuring our stuff

0:53:25.560 --> 0:53:28.719
<v Speaker 5>out kind of way. I'm fascinated to see what they do.

0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:31.120
<v Speaker 5>I can't wait. And especially are do we have time

0:53:31.160 --> 0:53:34.000
<v Speaker 5>to explore some of the influences for Alien, And we

0:53:34.120 --> 0:53:36.120
<v Speaker 5>kind of talked about, Yeah.

0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Sure, let's talk about it. Let's talk on it quickly.

0:53:38.160 --> 0:53:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And we talked about some of the films that

0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:42.319
<v Speaker 2>we were gonna talk about, some of the films that

0:53:42.360 --> 0:53:47.560
<v Speaker 2>influence Alien. I think we both watched them exclamation point recently,

0:53:48.040 --> 0:53:52.080
<v Speaker 2>which is it's crazy to watch them now. Nineteen fifty

0:53:52.120 --> 0:53:57.360
<v Speaker 2>four's Academy Award winning sci fi epic we didn't know

0:53:57.680 --> 0:54:00.720
<v Speaker 2>it won an Academy one, an Academy Award for Special Effects.

0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:06.520
<v Speaker 5>Okay, fair because those ants looked real good radioactive ants

0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:10.480
<v Speaker 5>who are grow to monstrous sizes because of the nuclear

0:54:10.520 --> 0:54:13.480
<v Speaker 5>testing that's going on in the New Mexico desert attack

0:54:14.200 --> 0:54:17.120
<v Speaker 5>and all manner of highjinks happen.

0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:23.000
<v Speaker 2>And if you're a fan of Aliens in particular, watch

0:54:23.080 --> 0:54:26.680
<v Speaker 2>them and you will be like, holy shit, there's a

0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:28.200
<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff from Aliens in this.

0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:30.840
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to call it a shot for shot remake,

0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:34.359
<v Speaker 5>but I will say heavily influenced. We got a young,

0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:40.440
<v Speaker 5>shell shocked girl. We have experienced scientist lady nobody trusts.

0:54:42.440 --> 0:54:46.600
<v Speaker 5>We have military grunts who are slash police. It's more

0:54:46.680 --> 0:54:50.040
<v Speaker 5>like a police FBI situation, but basically who are like,

0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:52.160
<v Speaker 5>no one's telling us what's going on, and we need

0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:55.280
<v Speaker 5>to protect ourselves. And then we also have a great

0:54:55.320 --> 0:54:57.520
<v Speaker 5>disdain for the rest of human life because they refuse

0:54:57.600 --> 0:54:59.080
<v Speaker 5>to tell the public what's going on.

0:54:59.200 --> 0:55:02.080
<v Speaker 1>And they're just like, they're just like fuck it, and

0:55:02.120 --> 0:55:02.839
<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna tell them.

0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:05.319
<v Speaker 5>Go to you if you discover what's happening, because they

0:55:05.360 --> 0:55:07.960
<v Speaker 5>will just lock you up in a mental institution. They're like, oh,

0:55:07.960 --> 0:55:09.320
<v Speaker 5>we're just gonna keep up. A bunch of sailors on

0:55:09.360 --> 0:55:11.840
<v Speaker 5>a ship they saw the ants, so they can't come ashore.

0:55:12.200 --> 0:55:14.359
<v Speaker 5>How many supplies do they have, We're not sure, didn't check,

0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:16.800
<v Speaker 5>but they can't come back. I was like, the disregard

0:55:16.880 --> 0:55:21.520
<v Speaker 5>for human life, but it's so kind of it's a

0:55:21.520 --> 0:55:23.840
<v Speaker 5>really good movie. I'm glad I watched it, and it

0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:26.799
<v Speaker 5>was interesting to see sort of the ways that's all

0:55:26.840 --> 0:55:30.800
<v Speaker 5>about atomic power and what is the lasting impact and

0:55:30.840 --> 0:55:34.680
<v Speaker 5>effect on the human race and our planet, and so

0:55:35.040 --> 0:55:37.839
<v Speaker 5>to sort of look at it from that perspective and

0:55:37.920 --> 0:55:41.440
<v Speaker 5>then see what Aliens did, which is like, what is

0:55:41.440 --> 0:55:46.040
<v Speaker 5>the impact of this corporation constantly sending these grunts out

0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:51.560
<v Speaker 5>into space to die as cannon fodder? Essentially, I really

0:55:51.640 --> 0:55:56.000
<v Speaker 5>appreciated sort of the evolution of this conversation, which again

0:55:56.040 --> 0:55:58.040
<v Speaker 5>really inspires me to be like, I hope we continue

0:55:58.040 --> 0:56:00.000
<v Speaker 5>to see the evolution in Romulus.

0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:56:00.680 --> 0:56:04.000
<v Speaker 2>The interesting thing about them too is you know, the

0:56:04.040 --> 0:56:07.640
<v Speaker 2>hero is a dude, and so therefore you get this

0:56:07.760 --> 0:56:12.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of more fatherly thing. But you are absolutely right

0:56:12.040 --> 0:56:17.000
<v Speaker 2>to put your finger on motherhood being like such an

0:56:17.000 --> 0:56:20.359
<v Speaker 2>important part of these alien films. The first film, it's

0:56:20.760 --> 0:56:23.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, Ripley is the only one who gives a

0:56:23.160 --> 0:56:27.640
<v Speaker 2>shit about the cat. You know, in this very motherly way,

0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 2>risks her life to get the cat, and that is

0:56:30.200 --> 0:56:32.880
<v Speaker 2>part of why you love her. You love her for that,

0:56:34.120 --> 0:56:38.239
<v Speaker 2>you understand that everyone else would just be like, fuck

0:56:38.280 --> 0:56:42.800
<v Speaker 2>the cat, not Ripley. Then in Aliens, you know that's

0:56:43.360 --> 0:56:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Newt is basically her child. Like that that is like

0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:51.080
<v Speaker 2>overt and is not only just her child, but she's

0:56:51.520 --> 0:56:54.600
<v Speaker 2>in a very real way balancing like being a mother

0:56:54.800 --> 0:57:00.920
<v Speaker 2>and being this authoritative voice that hardened space marines are like, no,

0:57:01.000 --> 0:57:05.800
<v Speaker 2>we're going to do what you say because you know better.

0:57:06.040 --> 0:57:09.440
<v Speaker 2>So it'd be very interesting to see if that stuff

0:57:09.480 --> 0:57:12.480
<v Speaker 2>is in there. Next up there is Dark Star, which

0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:16.920
<v Speaker 2>has a lot of really interesting connections to the Alien franchise.

0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:20.040
<v Speaker 2>First of all, was written by Dan O'Bannon wrote Alien

0:57:20.320 --> 0:57:24.280
<v Speaker 2>the script, the original script for Alien movie. It was

0:57:24.920 --> 0:57:28.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of like a co written by director John Carpenter.

0:57:29.760 --> 0:57:33.680
<v Speaker 2>And Darkstar has a lot of First of all, that

0:57:33.720 --> 0:57:36.160
<v Speaker 2>it was made for like sixty thousand dollars as a

0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:42.080
<v Speaker 2>student film in nineteen seventy four at USC. It somehow

0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:46.200
<v Speaker 2>got a limited film release and has a lot of

0:57:46.280 --> 0:57:49.640
<v Speaker 2>the themes that you see in Alien later, including this

0:57:49.760 --> 0:57:56.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of exploration of space as a place where workers

0:57:56.120 --> 0:58:00.400
<v Speaker 2>are sent out into and for completely forgotten about. These

0:58:01.120 --> 0:58:04.440
<v Speaker 2>These people are on like a multi year mission to

0:58:04.760 --> 0:58:09.760
<v Speaker 2>basically look at different planets and you know, research whether

0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:13.920
<v Speaker 2>they might be a danger to the colonial system that

0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:16.520
<v Speaker 2>humans have. But also they've been doing it for like

0:58:16.640 --> 0:58:20.160
<v Speaker 2>years and nobody cares anymore. Like they're just out there

0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:24.560
<v Speaker 2>in space and completely forgotten about, which I think is something.

0:58:24.320 --> 0:58:25.240
<v Speaker 1>We're going to see in Alien.

0:58:25.320 --> 0:58:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Romulus space is a place where you send people out

0:58:28.920 --> 0:58:31.080
<v Speaker 2>there and then you don't ever think about them again.

0:58:31.320 --> 0:58:33.200
<v Speaker 5>Not only can nobody hear you scream, but nobody cares

0:58:33.240 --> 0:58:34.000
<v Speaker 5>if you come back.

0:58:34.480 --> 0:58:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Look, nobody cares if you come back.

0:58:36.000 --> 0:58:36.440
<v Speaker 4>Nobody cares.

0:58:36.480 --> 0:58:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Nobody was a shit, You're just out their mind.

0:58:38.960 --> 0:58:44.360
<v Speaker 5>Nobody cares, get us our resources or die. Honestly, Yeah,

0:58:44.480 --> 0:58:47.120
<v Speaker 5>I man, it's been really a fun week as we've

0:58:47.200 --> 0:58:49.920
<v Speaker 5>done this deep dive on all of the not just

0:58:50.000 --> 0:58:53.840
<v Speaker 5>impact of Alien, but sort of its place in cinematic history.

0:58:54.360 --> 0:58:56.560
<v Speaker 5>I think this movie is going to be really important

0:58:56.720 --> 0:58:59.360
<v Speaker 5>in the franchise because the past couple of films that

0:58:59.400 --> 0:59:02.240
<v Speaker 5>have been more fiction director have been they have been

0:59:02.280 --> 0:59:06.200
<v Speaker 5>as well received as earlier projects, and so I think

0:59:06.280 --> 0:59:09.480
<v Speaker 5>with this new direction, a return to horror, a fresh director,

0:59:09.520 --> 0:59:12.320
<v Speaker 5>a bunch of fresh new faces, and by starting young,

0:59:12.360 --> 0:59:15.800
<v Speaker 5>you have this ability to potentially age into an evolve

0:59:15.920 --> 0:59:18.600
<v Speaker 5>like we could potentially be Falling Rain for many movies.

0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:22.600
<v Speaker 5>I think it's like a nice soft reset for the franchise,

0:59:22.800 --> 0:59:26.720
<v Speaker 5>not a hard rese or not rebooting or retooling, but

0:59:26.760 --> 0:59:30.400
<v Speaker 5>a return to the things we loved and an advancement

0:59:30.520 --> 0:59:33.360
<v Speaker 5>in visuals that spells really good things for Alien.

0:59:33.920 --> 0:59:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:59:34.200 --> 0:59:37.000
<v Speaker 5>I think just being able to have the series as

0:59:37.040 --> 0:59:41.640
<v Speaker 5>a continuation of the storyline, both being able to expand

0:59:41.720 --> 0:59:43.880
<v Speaker 5>the lore, you know, coming in sort of in the

0:59:43.880 --> 0:59:47.000
<v Speaker 5>middle of the timeline instead of like way far out Prometheus,

0:59:47.520 --> 0:59:49.880
<v Speaker 5>like I'm not really sure what the direct connection is.

0:59:49.880 --> 0:59:52.480
<v Speaker 5>It plugs you right back into that central story, but

0:59:52.560 --> 0:59:57.520
<v Speaker 5>again doing something different from Ripley, which is nice. It

0:59:57.520 --> 1:00:01.120
<v Speaker 5>gives us a little bit of space without alienating the

1:00:01.120 --> 1:00:02.680
<v Speaker 5>things that we loved about the franchise.

1:00:03.360 --> 1:00:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Why is this film important? Why is Alien important? Why

1:00:09.080 --> 1:00:10.840
<v Speaker 2>is it important to you? Jo, I'll say why it's

1:00:10.840 --> 1:00:12.840
<v Speaker 2>important to me. I think it's important to me because

1:00:12.880 --> 1:00:15.200
<v Speaker 2>I think the Alien franchise, when it's at its best,

1:00:15.760 --> 1:00:18.960
<v Speaker 2>explores the things that we talked about class power dynamics,

1:00:19.000 --> 1:00:23.440
<v Speaker 2>gender dynamics in a way that is both incredibly entertaining

1:00:23.960 --> 1:00:27.040
<v Speaker 2>and then really rewarding to think about the more you

1:00:27.040 --> 1:00:30.880
<v Speaker 2>think about it. And so I think if that if

1:00:30.920 --> 1:00:33.480
<v Speaker 2>they can capture that where it's not just like a

1:00:33.560 --> 1:00:39.280
<v Speaker 2>pulse pounding horror in space action adventure gore fest, but

1:00:39.960 --> 1:00:42.520
<v Speaker 2>an exploration of like the people and things that we

1:00:42.640 --> 1:00:45.160
<v Speaker 2>think are expendable in our society.

1:00:45.360 --> 1:00:48.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, I really like about Alien and the elasticity

1:00:48.680 --> 1:00:51.640
<v Speaker 5>of the storytelling, right, And you can, like a lot

1:00:51.680 --> 1:00:53.440
<v Speaker 5>of people hate AU three. I love Three. It's so

1:00:53.560 --> 1:00:56.360
<v Speaker 5>weird and bizarre. It's in a great film, No, but

1:00:56.440 --> 1:00:59.200
<v Speaker 5>it was a film that allowed itself to be weird

1:00:59.240 --> 1:01:02.120
<v Speaker 5>and to try. And I think even to Prometheus again,

1:01:02.120 --> 1:01:03.560
<v Speaker 5>a whole bunch of people didn't like Prometheus. I think

1:01:03.560 --> 1:01:06.640
<v Speaker 5>we're seeing some people return to it and see it

1:01:06.640 --> 1:01:10.080
<v Speaker 5>in a different light. It's definitely different than the rest

1:01:10.080 --> 1:01:11.960
<v Speaker 5>of the Alien franchise, but I think that's something that's

1:01:11.960 --> 1:01:16.080
<v Speaker 5>sort of beautiful and allows for growth and depth within.

1:01:16.360 --> 1:01:18.720
<v Speaker 5>You know, if we're going to continue to see IP

1:01:18.920 --> 1:01:22.400
<v Speaker 5>franchises that last decades, like that's the kind of thing

1:01:22.440 --> 1:01:24.640
<v Speaker 5>need to see, is elasticity and storytelling. All these things

1:01:24.680 --> 1:01:28.320
<v Speaker 5>get boring really fast. And I'll also say, like to me,

1:01:28.880 --> 1:01:33.880
<v Speaker 5>to this day, we don't have enough characters that are

1:01:34.080 --> 1:01:37.880
<v Speaker 5>fucking awesome as Ripley, like Ripley oh Man to be

1:01:37.920 --> 1:01:40.080
<v Speaker 5>a woman in business, Like I loved her as a kid,

1:01:40.120 --> 1:01:42.760
<v Speaker 5>but now watching her talk to men, she's like.

1:01:42.960 --> 1:01:44.560
<v Speaker 1>I know what I'm talking about.

1:01:44.560 --> 1:01:47.720
<v Speaker 5>But then also like, why is the corporation right this way, Like,

1:01:47.760 --> 1:01:49.360
<v Speaker 5>none of this makes sense. You guys don't care about

1:01:49.400 --> 1:01:51.600
<v Speaker 5>people at all. How is that possible to see her

1:01:51.640 --> 1:01:55.480
<v Speaker 5>constantly go up against these struggles and not you know

1:01:55.600 --> 1:01:58.840
<v Speaker 5>typically and again, tears are fine, but we just want

1:01:58.840 --> 1:02:01.720
<v Speaker 5>to see them all the time. Like, Ripley never dissolves,

1:02:01.760 --> 1:02:04.720
<v Speaker 5>she never collapses in on herself. She's like a endless

1:02:04.920 --> 1:02:09.760
<v Speaker 5>reservoir of power and she survives it. And she's like

1:02:09.800 --> 1:02:12.960
<v Speaker 5>a final girl who's totally kick ass and awesome. She's

1:02:13.000 --> 1:02:14.240
<v Speaker 5>the best final girl in my opinion.

1:02:14.280 --> 1:02:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I love Ripley.

1:02:15.080 --> 1:02:18.080
<v Speaker 5>And so for this franchise to keep going, to keep

1:02:18.120 --> 1:02:22.040
<v Speaker 5>trying to craft dope incredible women like that, like, it

1:02:22.080 --> 1:02:24.200
<v Speaker 5>means a lot to me. I value it a lot.

1:02:24.280 --> 1:02:27.880
<v Speaker 5>And yeah, I'm excited for these new iterations. I think

1:02:27.920 --> 1:02:31.800
<v Speaker 5>we're gonna really you see some really kick ass kids.

1:02:31.800 --> 1:02:32.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm excited for them.

1:02:33.600 --> 1:02:40.439
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's end with our box office predictions. What do

1:02:40.480 --> 1:02:44.680
<v Speaker 2>we think opening weekend Alien romulus? What do we think

1:02:44.720 --> 1:02:45.680
<v Speaker 2>the number is going to be?

1:02:45.800 --> 1:02:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Joelle?

1:02:47.720 --> 1:02:50.960
<v Speaker 5>So the conservative estimate is between thirty and fifty million dollars,

1:02:51.040 --> 1:02:57.919
<v Speaker 5>which seems completely reasonable, but given Twisters and it's success

1:02:58.080 --> 1:03:00.760
<v Speaker 5>coming off of a franchise that not everyone was sure

1:03:00.760 --> 1:03:03.680
<v Speaker 5>if people still wanted more, right, they were like, is

1:03:03.720 --> 1:03:05.760
<v Speaker 5>this a thing people are actually gonna come see? It

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<v Speaker 5>has some fresh faces, some you know, people that we know,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's I really feel like we could be looking

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<v Speaker 5>at a big opening weekend. So I'm gonna go a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit outside of conservative and say, like seventy five,

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<v Speaker 5>Twisters did eighty one point two five. Wow, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 5>say Alien Romulus does seventy five.

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<v Speaker 2>I So the budget, it's hard to track on budget

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<v Speaker 2>info about this movie. It was filmed in Hungary for cheap,

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<v Speaker 2>but not like sub one hundred million dollar cheap. That said,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Twisters analogy is an interesting one. I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have thought of Glenn Powell as a star, but

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<v Speaker 2>he does have like some star power. Kaylee Spanney, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people know her from Civil War, from Mayor of Sound,

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<v Speaker 2>from other stuff. But I think there is a notable

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna say lack of star power, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>not a star driven film and maybe never has been.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say, ooh, I'm gonna put it at forty five,

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<v Speaker 2>but like that's gonna be framed as a success.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm gonna say forty.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think he does thirty five. People will think

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<v Speaker 5>of this as a successful Yes, Like it's horror. Late

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<v Speaker 5>summer August, box office can sometimes be pretty slow, so

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<v Speaker 5>uh yeah, but I'm really hoping but they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 5>in see It's like I was telling you before, like

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<v Speaker 5>my dad is Alien obsessed, loves the franchise. He hasn't

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<v Speaker 5>been to the theater since OPENHEIMWERG. To be fair, my

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<v Speaker 5>dad built his own movie theater in his basement. So

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<v Speaker 5>he's like, well, I want to go to the theater.

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<v Speaker 5>I have one at home. Yeah, he's he's been a

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<v Speaker 5>long project, but he's like, I'm gonna go see it

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<v Speaker 5>in the theater. I want to see it with an audience.

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<v Speaker 5>I think horror sort of demands that, and so I'm

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<v Speaker 5>hoping that brings a lot of people to the theater

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<v Speaker 5>this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up next on an X ray vision tomorrow. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>Rosie is sitting down with You Joel super producer Joel

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<v Speaker 2>for deep Dive on the interview with a vampire television series,

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<v Speaker 2>the sexiest most vamping series on television, including an interview

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<v Speaker 2>with Starr Sam Reid and to the next week for

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<v Speaker 2>our Alien Romulus Reaction pod. That's it for this episode,

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<v Speaker 2>See you next time. X ray Vision is hosted by

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Ken, Supsion and Rosie Knight and is a production

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<v Speaker 2>of iHeart Podcasts. Our executive producers are Joelle Smith and

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising producer is a Boo Zafar. Our

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<v Speaker 2>producers are Carmen Laurent and Mia Taylor. Our theme song

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<v Speaker 2>is by Brian Basquez.

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<v Speaker 4>Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman

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<v Speaker 4>and Heidi on Disco Modera