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Speaker 2: Today's episode contains spoilers for the Alien franchise and some

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Speaker 2: other movies that we're going to discuss, including the works

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Speaker 2: of Alien Romulus director Feidi Alvarez and others.

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Speaker 3: So be warned.

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Speaker 1: But that's not that big a deal. It's really not

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Speaker 1: that big a deal this time.

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Speaker 4: Hello.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jason Contepcion and I'm Joel Money.

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Speaker 2: Whoa, and welcome back an sorry vision the podcast When

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Speaker 2: We Dive Deep. It's your favorite shows, movies, comics and

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Speaker 2: pop culture coming to you from IRT Podcasts. We're bringing

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Speaker 2: you two episodes a week, every Tuesday and Thursday.

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Speaker 5: In today's episode, we're concluding Xenomorph week by taking a

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Speaker 5: deep dive into Alien Romulus. First up, looking at the

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Speaker 5: trailers and featurettes of Alien Romulus to kind of dig

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Speaker 5: underneath the film and see what we can expect. Then

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Speaker 5: we're doing a two part air lock. In part one,

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Speaker 5: we're looking at director Fadie Alvarez's past films and possible

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Speaker 5: influences for the new film Alien Romulus. And then in

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Speaker 5: part two, we're gonna discuss the films that shaped the

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Speaker 5: Alien franchise. And then finally, and what if, we're gonna

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Speaker 5: predict some box office. But before we talk about Alien,

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Speaker 5: we're gonna go to previously on with Rosie, What's in

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Speaker 5: the News, Rosie and Jason, and now.

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Speaker 2: Previously on and News. First up, Paramount is closing its

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Speaker 2: television arm. This is a devastating hit to Paramount and

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Speaker 2: to the Los Angeles economy. Paramount sent out a memo

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Speaker 2: this week announcing that they want to cut five hundred

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Speaker 1: What does this mean. This means they're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna start spinning off the all of Paramounts television wearers

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Speaker 2: are going to be for sale, and a lot of

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Speaker 2: people are going to be out of work.

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Speaker 1: That's what speeds.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just absolutely wild, Like it's bad times. And this

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Speaker 4: of the monopolizing culture where like you're losing Hollywood history.

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Speaker 3: They would rather just save some money than try and you.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, let's be real.

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Speaker 4: This is the company that made The Office, So I'm

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Speaker 4: saying like they had the juice at one point, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: we've now they've mostly been making stuff for other studios

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Speaker 4: or other streaming So are we surprised, Probably not, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Up next, D twenty three was this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Rosie and Baygi said, we're saving the news for no

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Speaker 2: Heavin Weggy said, we gave you Robert Downey Junior at

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Speaker 2: Comic Con and we're saving all the best bits for us.

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Speaker 2: And we got new trailers from Agatha all along iron Heart.

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Speaker 3: Law, but I'm just saying should go and find those leaks.

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Speaker 2: So imagining that we did see the leaks, the hypothetically,

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Speaker 3: I think this looks delightful. Amblin vibes. Goonies in space.

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Speaker 2: There is a Thunderbolt leak if we wanted to talk

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Speaker 4: Okay, hypothetic, sypathetically, we've seen the Thunderbolts leak. What did

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Speaker 2: And again I'm intrigued. If this is gonna be kind

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Speaker 4: But this this movie is called Thunderbolts with an asterisk

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Speaker 4: But I'm very interested because they the asterisk is hard

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Speaker 1: It's hard to ignore, and I have no idea what

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Speaker 2: I like your idea that it could be the Dark Avengers,

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Speaker 1: The Dark Avengers were full.

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Speaker 2: On villains, villains costplaying as heroes doing villain as ship.

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Speaker 2: This seems more like anti heroes costplaying.

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Speaker 1: As do the bad guys.

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Speaker 1: Times young people. Stop doing that. Stop being young.

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Speaker 4: fast when you get old like us. Okay, Percy Jackson

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Speaker 2: As that, Like it's uh, it's pretty nuts. The quality

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Speaker 2: bring to the screen. Yeah, it looks like a million

446
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 2: zillion bucks.

447
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it really does. It looks fantastic. I just lots

448
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 4: of creatures. We talked about that in the last trailer.

449
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 4: We get to see more bar Rock here.

450
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 3: Lots of horse battles.

451
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 4: When we were watching this earlier, Joelle's mouth was open

452
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Speaker 4: the whole time.

453
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Speaker 3: It was a gate.

454
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 4: She was like, I can't believe what is going on.

455
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 4: I can't believe what I'm seeing.

456
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 3: A darn Nord's here. Of course, gonna get to know

457
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Speaker 3: more about his relationship with Sour.

458
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Speaker 4: We get Sour on with his aim and style wig

459
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Speaker 4: that you know, they're just like straightening uh, you know,

460
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 4: they're just straightening it up.

461
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Speaker 3: So yeah, we will see it. Looks looks very good.

462
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 1: Looks very very good. And that is it for news.

463
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 5: And now that we're done with the news, we're heading

464
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Speaker 5: to the air lock to talk Geno morphs in all

465
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Speaker 5: and Robbie check it out.

466
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: Let's jump in.

467
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Speaker 2: Let's start with the uh the teaser trailer, the first

468
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 2: most recent teaser trailer and then the final version of

469
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 2: the trailer, both released you know in recent weeks. Let's say, yes,

470
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: should we just watch them in real time?

471
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 5: We can't. I'm about it, Yeah, t shir.

472
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Speaker 1: One thing I love right away, texture in the air.

473
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Speaker 2: One thing I missed about from Alien three and then

474
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,719
Speaker 2: it's Alien Resurrection is like I need steam and dust

475
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 2: in the air.

476
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Speaker 5: It's vital you immediately. I think in a recent episode

477
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 5: when we were talking about Star Wars, there's that scene

478
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 5: where they're in the jungle and there's just it's no

479
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 5: mist there. It's all dry, and you're like, I don't

480
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 5: feel involved in the space. This gives such like just

481
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 5: the deep space dark shadows kind of uh oh gosh,

482
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Speaker 5: what's the video game I'm speaking thinking of dead Space. Yes,

483
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Speaker 5: the first time I saw the trailer, I was like,

484
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Speaker 5: this is very dead space, and I'm absolutely here for it.

485
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Speaker 2: I completely agree. Yea dead Space is very alien. He's

486
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 2: super classic. You can definitely feel the horror vibes that

487
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 2: they're going for. And then the final trailer, which gives

488
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: us more of the kind of background story and context.

489
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 2: As FEEDI has talked about, Ridley has also talked about interviews.

490
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Speaker 2: This is a story about young colonists in a dead

491
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: end space colony where your only job is like the

492
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Speaker 2: worst version of jobs. You're either working in like a

493
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 2: food processing plant or you're a scavenger slash minor. And

494
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: in the course of doing that really shitty blue collar job,

495
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: these young folks stumble upon an abandoned question Mark space

496
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: installation and it apparently is full of face huggers.

497
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Speaker 5: Listen, here's what's really interesting, And there's an interview where

498
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 5: he was They did a twenty minute preview for press

499
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 5: and Fienie was saying that he wanted this film to

500
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 5: be like, I Alien two aliens, when they come to

501
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 5: the planet, You're like, all these children were the last

502
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 5: ones left behind. He's like, that's the film I wanted

503
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 5: to see, is what happens when it's only the children there?

504
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 5: And if for a franchise that's been very much about

505
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 5: mothers making not just space for themselves, but protecting their children,

506
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 5: it's really interesting to look at a motherless colony of

507
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 5: children and exploring how they're gonna survive. It's a nice

508
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 5: turn on the horror we've been experiencing to how to

509
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 5: protect children, to just how do you protect yourselves? And

510
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 5: also potentially for young women, like we have Rain as

511
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 5: the main character of the film, and it seems like

512
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 5: she might be sort of thrust into this motherly position

513
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 5: ahead of her time, and I'm interested in that as

514
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 5: an angle of horror.

515
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get into this more when we talk about

516
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: the thematic structure of the Alien franchise and Alien movies,

517
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: but a lot of it, you know, a lot of

518
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 2: the feel of Alien of course. Notably, Ridley Scott changed

519
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 2: the main character Ripley from a man to a woman,

520
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 2: just kind of like on a lark.

521
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that.

522
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: It wasn't a lot of deep thinking in his from

523
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: his perspective, but it added this really rich texture of

524
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: all of these conversations about a woman as coworker, woman

525
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 2: as a leader, woman as a mother slash protector slash

526
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: person who can decide what to do with their body.

527
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: All of those conversations happen, and it's really fascinating. I

528
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: hope we get those conversations in this film. A couple

529
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: of fun easter eggs. About thirty seconds in, we see

530
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: that the computer that apparently runs this installation is the

531
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Speaker 2: Mu slash th slash you are nine thousand Mother nine

532
00:27:54,480 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 2: thousand That was Mother is the name of the computer

533
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: that ran the Nostromo in the original Alien film. And

534
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: very clearly we're gonna see this is very very horror coded,

535
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: maybe more explicitly horror coded than any recent Alien film,

536
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: Like obviously the prequels are a different thing, more of

537
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 2: a sci fi adventure kind of thing, and doubling down

538
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: on the original like horror roots of Alien.

539
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 5: What's really thrilling is if the first okay, so the

540
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 5: first Alien is a hunted House horror movie and Alienyens

541
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Speaker 5: is more like a flashback war horror story of like

542
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 5: living in your own nightmare of war. I'm curious, like,

543
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 5: is this uh, you know, I think a lot of

544
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 5: adolescent horror films or horror films about like young people

545
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 5: are like the horror of your your changing body and

546
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 5: the horror of like, I don't know, the the just

547
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 5: the trauma of like growing and evolving. I think the

548
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 5: idea of this being like a dead end sort of

549
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 5: space gives like the horror of being stuck or like,

550
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 5: I think we're gonna see almost a regression. Allah, I'm

551
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 5: having trouble what memes today the book where all the

552
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 5: kids are stuck on the island.

553
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: Oh, and it's the Lord of the Flies.

554
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: Thank you.

555
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: I think we're going to get a Lord that Flies

556
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: a moment.

557
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 5: Listen, it's early and I'm kind of looking forward to that.

558
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 5: I think, you know, we've always seen corporate guys versus

559
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 5: the miners and really like a class or thing. But

560
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 5: if you're all in the same class, then I'm I

561
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 5: imagine what we're gonna see is just a denigration of

562
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 5: like human to animal sort of thing. And that's always

563
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 5: kind of exciting.

564
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. I think that there are clear parallels

565
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: here with what we know about Romulus. This is one

566
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: thing we're going to get into. We know a lot

567
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: because they've been releasing a lot, maybe too much.

568
00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:58,719
Speaker 1: Now.

569
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Speaker 2: That's suggest to me that the studio thinks they have

570
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: a good movie on their hands, which is extremely positive.

571
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: But okay, So I think it's interesting to look at

572
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: Fete's breakthrough question Mark film Don't Breathe, Don't Breathe one

573
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: and then Don't Breathe two, which were how I really

574
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: first became aware of him, and it feels like a

575
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: very similar setup, right, A group of disaffected young people

576
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: with really like nothing to do in this edge of

577
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: nowhere like crumbling suburb break into a mysterious house where

578
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: they are eventually preyed upon by this like ex military creature,

579
00:30:54,640 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 2: human discarded person. And it intersects really well with a

580
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: lot of the themes of Alien as a franchise, which

581
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: are I mean, you kind of put your finger on it,

582
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: like a lot of it is about like corporate power

583
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: versus worker power, and it's really about like who's expendable.

584
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: Like in the first Alien, it's blue collar workers. They're

585
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: expendable whatever, Like, let's just get one of them pregnant

586
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 2: and bring them back and we can make money off

587
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: of the same thing. With Alien two, it's colonists, it's grunts.

588
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 2: You know, there's explicitly this conversation about grunts and how

589
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: their whole job is just to go in and die. Yeah,

590
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: And then Alien three, who's expendable prisoners, We don't care

591
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: about them. Just put them out in the universe somewhere

592
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: and let them run their own affairs, and we don't

593
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: worry too much about it. Let's not worry about alien resurrection,

594
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: but like those are, let's not have that conversation around resurrection.

595
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: But when Alien is interesting, it's an exploration about who

596
00:31:53,800 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: we decide from a societal perspective, we can be comfortable

597
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: with dying, and I think that's going to be a

598
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: part of Alien romulus. It's essentially not just like the

599
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: fact that these are kids in a nowhere town working

600
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: dead on jobs. It's the power structure in a class sense.

601
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: Why are we okay with these kids dying? Who are

602
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: we okay with just passing away? Who worked in this

603
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: ship that no one cares about and no one even.

604
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 5: Thinks gosh, I'm having such a brainstorm moment because I'm like, oh,

605
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 5: is this a reoccurring theme in Feet the Because if

606
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 5: you think about Evil Dead, like that's a film about

607
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 5: a group of friends that came together to try to

608
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 5: help their friend who is an addict get clean. Almost

609
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 5: all of them have medical experience. She does not. Nobody

610
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,239
Speaker 5: trusts her opinion on what's happening to her point, and

611
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 5: so she's constantly being told like, no, you need to

612
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 5: stay here. She's like, I have to get out. Actually,

613
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 5: it's not safe here. This is not the way for

614
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 5: me to do this, and they're like, we're taking away

615
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 5: all of your agency. And then if we think about Okay,

616
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Speaker 5: I know you don't like Girls Spiders.

617
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Speaker 2: Web, but even that it's a film, I don't think

618
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: it was the best of the speak Larsen, uh, cinematic universe.

619
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Speaker 5: That's totally fair. I was talking to s First the

620
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 5: other day, like, how does that fit into the larger thing?

621
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 5: Like is that the Sweetish or the Americans? Like it's

622
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 5: definitely the Americans, but is it I don't because it's

623
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 5: a different actress and it's a weird film. It's just

624
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 5: out there were like we have the ip we must

625
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 5: make it anyway. I digress. Even that film has moments

626
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 5: of uh, here's somebody who's like, I can save everyone

627
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 5: except this one person, and I couldn't save them because

628
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 5: I have this hang up from being abandoned. You weren't

629
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 5: worth saving because you hurt me, even though everybody else,

630
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 5: no matter what they did, what was we're saving. So

631
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 5: that's a really interesting point, And especially if we think

632
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 5: about who's expendable. Almost always, universally, people like it's not

633
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 5: the children who are expendable, or at least that's what

634
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 5: we say, but it'll be interesting to see, like, you know,

635
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 5: a lot of times we do say children are expendable,

636
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 5: or we don't give them a space. So I hope

637
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 5: we'll be exploring all of that here.

638
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's something too about the original Alien

639
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: films where they became. They weren't intended to become, I

640
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: don't think, but because of when they came out and

641
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: the structure of those films, they became, you know, this

642
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 2: kind of like pro choice parable.

643
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: A woman who refuses to.

644
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: Be impregnated with an alien and fights constantly over the

645
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 2: course of multiple films to not have that happen. And

646
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: I think in this film, you know what else, if

647
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: you look at what other potential dialogues might happen because

648
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: of the wider culture context, certainly a choice narrative is there.

649
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: But I also think with you Know's, there's a story

650
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: at the front of the New York Times today about

651
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 2: how we're entering a point, we're approaching a point where

652
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 2: like various ecological tipping points might happen and the planet

653
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: will never be the same. And I think for you

654
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 2: know people, maybe fifty and over, that's obviously anxiety inducing,

655
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: but you're also like, fuck it, I'm not going to

656
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: be here for the worst part of it. And I

657
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: think maybe part of like the cultural conversation that might

658
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: happen around this movie that we might find yourself responding

659
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: to is we say we care about the kids, but

660
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: like we're not doing anything to allow them to have

661
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Speaker 2: a world.

662
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: We also let them.

663
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: Die in mass shooting events and don't do anything about it.

664
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 2: And I think that there is a larger conversation maybe

665
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: that might come out of this movie, just internally in

666
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: your own mind, about like, do really care about the kids?

667
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 2: We really care about the world that young people will

668
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: have I.

669
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 5: Have chills now, and I'm really excited to be thinking

670
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 5: about this movie on a much deeper levels because before I.

671
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: Was like, or are we It's back, Like, let's go maybe.

672
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: Up next, we're going to explore the oove of Alien

673
00:35:46,719 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: Romul's director Pete Alvarez, and.

674
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: We're back. Let's discuss Feodie Outre.

675
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 5: So I really want to talk about Fee as a director.

676
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 5: Alien is so shaped by whoever's in the director, see, like,

677
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 5: you get a lot of control and power over the direction.

678
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 1: And angle and style.

679
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 5: I think a lot more than a lot of other

680
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 5: franchises allow Like usually you're like you need to adhere

681
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 5: to the brand, and Alien it's sort of like we

682
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 5: want these interesting directors to come in and do a

683
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 5: lot of interesting things. So Feeni was originally discovered by

684
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 5: Sam Raimi who saw his short whose title, of course

685
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 5: I can't recall it right now, but saw short was like, Yeah,

686
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 5: this kid's got it. Brought him in to do Evil Dead.

687
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 5: Evil Dead really shows that FEEDI has a lot of

688
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 5: respect for a franchise, understands deeply how to adhere to

689
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 5: the overall style guide while also putting his original fingerprint

690
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 5: on it and making it feel unique and exciting and fun,

691
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 5: and so I think all of that gives us a

692
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 5: lot of hope for what he can do. So here

693
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 5: we listen to a conversation between him and Release Scott,

694
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 5: and I was wondering if we could play that clip. Guys. Yeah,

695
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 5: So I think he's saying a lot of the same

696
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 5: things were're saying, which is just he's got this fresh take.

697
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 5: He's looking for young folks. And I think for I mean,

698
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 5: Redley's had some issues with some adaptations of his in

699
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 5: the past. I mean, there are how many cuts of

700
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 5: Blade Runner. He's very specific, and so for him to

701
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 5: have hope and Febie, I think, you know, it makes

702
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 5: me feel less nervous about going to the show.

703
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: Same.

704
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: Let's let's dive into his filmography, starting with twenty thirteen's

705
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 2: reimagining their quotes of the Evil Dead franchise. Evil Dead

706
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: the twenty thirteen version starring Jane Levy, Sheila Fernandez, lou

707
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: Taylor Pucci, Jessica Lucas, Elizabeth Blackmore, and it's essentially the

708
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 2: setup if you're aware of the first Evil Dead movies.

709
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: Remote cabin, evil spirits, people trapped there, fast paced, terrible.

710
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: Horrific images of gore.

711
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 2: And blood, so much blood, and a demon that must

712
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: be uh, you know, expunged from this plane of reality.

713
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: I would say it's a what It's a wonderful high

714
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 2: adrenaline like close to the ground horror movie.

715
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: Uh. It lacks maybe the.

716
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: Tinge of Tom and Jerry comedy of the originals mostly

717
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: evil did too, but.

718
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: A terrific, a terrific modern horror film.

719
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 5: Yeah. Poene said, uh, twenty seven percent less humor sixteen.

720
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Speaker 4: Uh.

721
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 5: The bodywear goes up to such an extent we were

722
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 5: just like, oh, like I was. It was like every

723
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 5: three minutes, TI, okay, pause, it's fine, you're here. This

724
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 5: is all makeup, don't worry about it. Limbs are being

725
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 5: slowly stretched and torn off bodies. There are disgusting bites

726
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 5: from zombie children. Who was the one that really Oh

727
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 5: the nail gun. Anytime a nail gun shows up in

728
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 5: a movie, I'm like, why are we doing this? Do

729
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 5: we have to? It's so much but it's delightfully scary.

730
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 5: It's the kind of scary where you're peeking through your fingers,

731
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 5: uses a light and shadow really well, and when he

732
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 5: is having fun, like he's having a lot of fun.

733
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 5: And so while I do think there's I think we

734
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 5: mentioned before, but there's two sexual assaults within the film

735
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 5: that I felt were sort of grotesque and unnecessary in

736
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 5: a way that really wasn't helping plotter, adding to the

737
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 5: horror theaters are just sort of excessive. I think he's

738
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 5: evolved and grown a lot as a director since this film,

739
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 5: both in his style and in taste of what he's showing,

740
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 5: you know, slowly, surely growing, And so yeah, I think

741
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 5: this is a really good resume for like this guy

742
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 5: can do Alien And then of course we go on

743
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 5: to his follow up films, which you were explaining earlier,

744
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 5: genuinely horror.

745
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 2: Twenty Fourteens Don't Breathe also starring Jane Livy. You know,

746
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: this was this was kind of like along with it

747
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 2: follows like a high point.

748
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: Of Detroit horror. Detroit, yes, area of horror movies.

749
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 5: And no only Lovers left alive, So it was like, yeah,

750
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 5: Detroit horror.

751
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: Barbarian.

752
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 2: There's another one of the recent a class that three

753
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: kids break into a house where they feel like there

754
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: might be stuff worth stealing, but the guy there is

755
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: a blind and absolutely jacked Gulf War veteran who also

756
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: turns out to be a quite sinister person who has

757
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: been trapping and impregnating attempting to impregnate his female prisoners.

758
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: It has a lot of the hallmarks that I think

759
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 2: were established in Evil Dead, which is claustrophobia, intense fear,

760
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: the fear of being hunted.

761
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: Like survival, hide and go seek, you know, yeah, and

762
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: is a truly.

763
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 2: Creepy and weird film, really weird film that is good.

764
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 1: Is also one of those.

765
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: Where, much like Evil Dead, I mean, the plot turns

766
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: on a reveal of like jars of frozen sperm, is

767
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: that necessarily in good taste?

768
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 6: Like?

769
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 2: How do you personally feel about that? I was like,

770
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: do I need? That? Feels like too much for me.

771
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: But like another seemingly hallmark of Fete's work, particularly early work.

772
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: Is like did we just go over the line? I'm

773
00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 1: not sure.

774
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 5: He likes to tap dance on it, he like, because

775
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 5: on the one hand, you're like, this feels very far,

776
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 5: but on the other hand, you're like, oh, it's really

777
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 5: cementing to me the horror here. It's and it's also

778
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 5: visually really disgusting, And so for that element of like

779
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 5: I'm just visually disgusted and equally horrified, like it kind

780
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 5: of works.

781
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 3: So I don't know.

782
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 5: I like somebody who's at the very least willing to

783
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 5: push the boundary. And he seems like the kind of

784
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 5: director who's like not very concerned with what people think

785
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 5: about his films, which is kind of an ideal right now,

786
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 5: it's just what he's like, I made this film for me.

787
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 5: I hope you like it. It's like a really interesting

788
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 5: kind of he's very hands on, he said, I can't

789
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 5: remember if it's in the Sam Raimi talkback or in

790
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 5: the UH after the press screening, but he talks about

791
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 5: how they made amatronic face huggers, and he's like, if

792
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 5: you see a face hugger and it's submerged in water,

793
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 5: I'm holding the camera filming that I'm actually moving and

794
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 5: trying to get So he's like very tactile and wants

795
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 5: to be very like involved and invested in the overall look.

796
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 5: And he said, he's like that's how he starts to

797
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 5: see the film. He's not like a film school guy.

798
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 5: He's the guy who just constantly was stealing like friends

799
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 5: parents cameras and making movies with his friend. He said,

800
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 5: he would like edit in camera, which, if you know

801
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 5: anything about filming, is tremendously hard because you have to

802
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 5: like hear the length of film and then align the

803
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 5: shot and then make sure your transitions from one shot

804
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 5: to the other what make sense to your audience. Like

805
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 5: it's a really delicate process. And so I think, you know,

806
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 5: I'm hoping we're seeing more of a return to because

807
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 5: we look at franchises like Star Wars has definitely been like, Okay,

808
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 5: we're gonna get out of the volume and away from

809
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 5: these blue screens. Lord of the Rings with Rings of

810
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 5: Power really tripled down on that. They're like, we're going

811
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 5: all over the world, and so it's exciting to see

812
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 5: franchises be like, we really want to bring back that

813
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 5: tactile viewing experience.

814
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's been so much a part of this

815
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 2: movie's marketing, both in the behind the scenes, which again

816
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: it's really notable how much stuff from this movie is

817
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: out there in the world. Then you could you know,

818
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: it's twenty minutes or so has already been screened.

819
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: And then there's this.

820
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 2: Quite long and extensive behind the scenes video that came

821
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 2: out recently, and it really delves into the practical, practical effects,

822
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: and it's clearly something that I think studios in general

823
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 2: understand that fans want, particularly in the horror space, Like

824
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: you want something that looks like it's there in the

825
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 2: room with the people who are scared of it, and.

826
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: That's a big part of it.

827
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: It's also like there's this been this cool like VHS

828
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 2: version of some run of the film that's been given

829
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: to influencers, and there again is this clear nod to nostalgia,

830
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: the old way of doing film, this kind of like gritty,

831
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: lived in looking world, and the suggestion being like this

832
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: is not going to be CG where you see too

833
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: much of the thing, You're gonna feel like that thing

834
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: is there in the shadows. The face huggers are on

835
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: the ground scurrying around, and it's going to be scary.

836
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: I'm excited for that part of it, and it's cool

837
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: that it seems like they understand that the fans want that.

838
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wanted to ask you on the line of

839
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,479
Speaker 5: like marketing and we've seen a lot. Do you think

840
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 5: we've seen too much? Have we crossed a line?

841
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think there's too much of this movie out there.

842
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 2: Again, I think that I take it as a positive.

843
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: It tells me that they think that they have a

844
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: good movie that people will want to see, and that

845
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: they're excited about their movie, because you know, marketing is

846
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: a limited resource and you can you There are any

847
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 2: number of examples the recent Borderlands debacle, for instance, where

848
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: you just know from the lack of stuff that you've

849
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: heard about the film that the studio.

850
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 5: Yes, nah nah, please don't come so fine.

851
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 2: The fact that they're going this hard for this movie

852
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 2: tells me that they like it. Now, there's just too

853
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 2: much out there.

854
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: What do you think, I mean, this is too there's like, yeah,

855
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: so much already out there.

856
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 2: For weeks, there's been like huge chunks of the movie

857
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: out there, I mean.

858
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 5: Weeks, and because I mean at the top of the year,

859
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 5: I remember hearing the actors on social media talking about

860
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 5: we just shot the scene. It was so crazy. Someone

861
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 5: was like finally ill from watching it was practical and

862
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 5: you're just never gonna believe it. So for weeks I've

863
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 5: sort of been on end of my see being like,

864
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 5: oh my god, Alien it's coming and it's gonna be crazy,

865
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 5: and so I'm so like I'm and especially because there's

866
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 5: so many like new faces in here. That's always a

867
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 5: really exciting Like if you're a person who follows marketing

868
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 5: and PR for films, like when there's a bunch of new,

869
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 5: very talented people coming up, like PR gets all excited.

870
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 5: We're introducing you to all these people and it's gonna

871
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 5: be great, and look at their relationships and they really

872
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 5: like each other and it's so great. So I love

873
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 5: seeing all of that. But from a film historian perspective,

874
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 5: like if you know anything about the marketing for movie one,

875
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 5: you're like, wait, what happened here? Because those like no

876
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 5: one can hear you scream in space and then there's

877
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 5: a like a maybe an egg. You're not sure what

878
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 5: you're looking at.

879
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: It's all dark and.

880
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 5: Stars, and they're like, come see it or don't alien

881
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 5: You're like, hell, yes, it's so exciting, And so I

882
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 5: think I understand they're like, we gotta get it out there.

883
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 5: You gotta know what's happening. But there's particularly Eileen wu

884
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 5: Is one of the performers in the film, and they

885
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 5: have this chest burster scene where they light up and

886
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 5: you could see almost like an extra Yeah, that should

887
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 5: not be in a trailer, and it shy be out

888
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 5: there that should be a shock in the theater.

889
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: I oh god, no.

890
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 5: And then they're like it pounds on their chest and

891
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 5: you can hear it cracking. I'm like, that's I don't

892
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 5: want to know this yet. This is I'm sure I'll

893
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 5: still love it in the theater, but yeah, I practice

894
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 5: some restraint. I really wish the directors could be like, okay,

895
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 5: but not these things you're in here.

896
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 2: No, I mean the releasing the behind the scenes before

897
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 2: the movie is out. I this is a very recent development.

898
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 2: I don't know if Romulus is the first to do it,

899
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: but it feels like something I have not seen before.

900
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 2: And again it feels very notable to me, Like why

901
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: why is it's out there?

902
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: This shouldn't be out there.

903
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 2: But I enjoy seeing it, but like it feels like

904
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: too much.

905
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 1: You're you're getting into spoiler territory now with your marketing.

906
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, hopefully it works and it brings lots of

907
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 5: people to seats and because you know, a horror film

908
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 5: is always better with a packed theater. So we're seeing

909
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 5: it tonight. How are you feeling. What's your anticipation level.

910
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm extremely excited.

911
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: I'm like super excited too, Okay, I'm next, We're gonna

912
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: delve into the themes of the Alien franchise after this,

913
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: and we're back. Let's talk about the Alien franchise and

914
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 2: the things that make Alien feel like Alien. Of course,

915
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 2: like this is a movie franchise that combines elements of horror,

916
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,479
Speaker 2: sci fi, haunted house and space, etcetera, all these things,

917
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 2: but what really what are the elements, the thematic elements

918
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: that make it feel that way? And I would propose

919
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: that it's the following first Alien films. The really good

920
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: Alien films have a exploration of real world power dynamics

921
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: within them that includes gender. We talked about particularly the

922
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 2: first two Alien movies as these explorations of women as coworker,

923
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 2: a woman as a leader, and a mother. With this

924
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: you know, other level of this dialogue about body agency

925
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 2: and choice that's all wrapped up in this comes part

926
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 2: and parcel with you know, when your hero is a woman.

927
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: And then this other exploration of the power dynamics within

928
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 2: society of class, working class versus corporate class. The first

929
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: four movies really are put in this kind of like

930
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 2: underclass setting of you know, blue collar mind workers. It's

931
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 2: blue collar colonists, military grunts, and of course always the

932
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: corporation is the villain, always, always, always, and within that

933
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: is a conversation, as we talked about previously, but who

934
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 2: does society consider expendable workers, grunts, prisoners, and so on.

935
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 2: It contains elements of its fear is generated from the

936
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 2: fear of humans, not just as prey but like yes,

937
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: as prey hunted, but as reproductive vessels for aliens. And

938
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 2: because the aliens are this completely other kind of insectoid species,

939
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: there is also a feeling within the alien movies of

940
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 2: this is really rare in even horror movies. It is

941
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: absolutely okay to release your genocidal urges upon this villain.

942
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 2: It is absolutely fine to say, wherever you find this

943
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: species in the galaxy, wipe it out. And that's not

944
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 2: a thing you can say about a lot of villains,

945
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: like you know, Predator. You look at the Predator series

946
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 2: like you would it would be fucked up to like

947
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 2: wipe out the Predators.

948
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: Not so with the xenomorphs.

949
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: Wherever you find it, kill it. And that's again, yeah,

950
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: it's not a thing that you find in many other

951
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 2: stories or horror stories. And then it can take is

952
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 2: a distrust of technology, computer intelligence, and a conversation about

953
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 2: when is computer intelligence truly dangerous? And I think what

954
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 2: these films basically come down on is it's too dangerous

955
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 2: when they are creative. I mean that's you see that

956
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 2: in uh yeah and Prometheus. Uh you see that in

957
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 2: the first Alien film. When and when is it too dangerous?

958
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 2: It's too dangerous when it's creative, which makes it too human. Like,

959
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 2: I hope that we get all of these elements. I

960
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: think these elements are absolutely key to making Alien feel

961
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 2: like Alien. And it certainly feels like from the copious

962
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: material that's out there Joell, that we are gonna get

963
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 2: that's gonna all of these things are going to be

964
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: part of this.

965
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, and some of the Kope's material we got. We

966
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 5: learned that Rain, again, the main character for this film,

967
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 5: has a brother who is a robot AI and she

968
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 5: feels fiercely protective with him. So I think immediately like

969
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 5: we're moving from helper to sibling, huge jump, And it'll

970
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 5: be an interesting exploration in the fine line between human

971
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 5: and technology when you bring it into like a familial

972
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 5: space and again not a mother to child spaces. We've

973
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 5: seen sort of explored and raised by wolves, which is

974
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 5: more Alien stuff, but in that sibling we're sort of

975
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 5: both on equal footing and we're both figuring our stuff

976
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 5: out kind of way. I'm fascinated to see what they do.

977
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 5: I can't wait. And especially are do we have time

978
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 5: to explore some of the influences for Alien, And we

979
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 5: kind of talked about, Yeah.

980
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: Sure, let's talk about it. Let's talk on it quickly.

981
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we talked about some of the films that

982
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 2: we were gonna talk about, some of the films that

983
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: influence Alien. I think we both watched them exclamation point recently,

984
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: which is it's crazy to watch them now. Nineteen fifty

985
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 2: four's Academy Award winning sci fi epic we didn't know

986
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 2: it won an Academy one, an Academy Award for Special Effects.

987
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 5: Okay, fair because those ants looked real good radioactive ants

988
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 5: who are grow to monstrous sizes because of the nuclear

989
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 5: testing that's going on in the New Mexico desert attack

990
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 5: and all manner of highjinks happen.

991
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 2: And if you're a fan of Aliens in particular, watch

992
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: them and you will be like, holy shit, there's a

993
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: lot of stuff from Aliens in this.

994
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 5: I don't want to call it a shot for shot remake,

995
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 5: but I will say heavily influenced. We got a young,

996
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 5: shell shocked girl. We have experienced scientist lady nobody trusts.

997
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 5: We have military grunts who are slash police. It's more

998
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 5: like a police FBI situation, but basically who are like,

999
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 5: no one's telling us what's going on, and we need

1000
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 5: to protect ourselves. And then we also have a great

1001
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 5: disdain for the rest of human life because they refuse

1002
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 5: to tell the public what's going on.

1003
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: And they're just like, they're just like fuck it, and

1004
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: we're not gonna tell them.

1005
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 5: Go to you if you discover what's happening, because they

1006
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 5: will just lock you up in a mental institution. They're like, oh,

1007
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 5: we're just gonna keep up. A bunch of sailors on

1008
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 5: a ship they saw the ants, so they can't come ashore.

1009
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 5: How many supplies do they have, We're not sure, didn't check,

1010
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 5: but they can't come back. I was like, the disregard

1011
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 5: for human life, but it's so kind of it's a

1012
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 5: really good movie. I'm glad I watched it, and it

1013
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 5: was interesting to see sort of the ways that's all

1014
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 5: about atomic power and what is the lasting impact and

1015
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 5: effect on the human race and our planet, and so

1016
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 5: to sort of look at it from that perspective and

1017
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 5: then see what Aliens did, which is like, what is

1018
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 5: the impact of this corporation constantly sending these grunts out

1019
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 5: into space to die as cannon fodder? Essentially, I really

1020
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 5: appreciated sort of the evolution of this conversation, which again

1021
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 5: really inspires me to be like, I hope we continue

1022
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 5: to see the evolution in Romulus.

1023
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1024
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 2: The interesting thing about them too is you know, the

1025
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 2: hero is a dude, and so therefore you get this

1026
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: kind of more fatherly thing. But you are absolutely right

1027
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: to put your finger on motherhood being like such an

1028
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 2: important part of these alien films. The first film, it's

1029
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 2: you know, Ripley is the only one who gives a

1030
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 2: shit about the cat. You know, in this very motherly way,

1031
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: risks her life to get the cat, and that is

1032
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 2: part of why you love her. You love her for that,

1033
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 2: you understand that everyone else would just be like, fuck

1034
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 2: the cat, not Ripley. Then in Aliens, you know that's

1035
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 2: Newt is basically her child. Like that that is like

1036
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: overt and is not only just her child, but she's

1037
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 2: in a very real way balancing like being a mother

1038
00:56:54,800 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: and being this authoritative voice that hardened space marines are like, no,

1039
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 2: we're going to do what you say because you know better.

1040
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 2: So it'd be very interesting to see if that stuff

1041
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 2: is in there. Next up there is Dark Star, which

1042
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 2: has a lot of really interesting connections to the Alien franchise.

1043
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 2: First of all, was written by Dan O'Bannon wrote Alien

1044
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 2: the script, the original script for Alien movie. It was

1045
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 2: kind of like a co written by director John Carpenter.

1046
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: And Darkstar has a lot of First of all, that

1047
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 2: it was made for like sixty thousand dollars as a

1048
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 2: student film in nineteen seventy four at USC. It somehow

1049
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: got a limited film release and has a lot of

1050
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: the themes that you see in Alien later, including this

1051
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: kind of exploration of space as a place where workers

1052
00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 2: are sent out into and for completely forgotten about. These

1053
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 2: These people are on like a multi year mission to

1054
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 2: basically look at different planets and you know, research whether

1055
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 2: they might be a danger to the colonial system that

1056
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 2: humans have. But also they've been doing it for like

1057
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 2: years and nobody cares anymore. Like they're just out there

1058
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: in space and completely forgotten about, which I think is something.

1059
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: We're going to see in Alien.

1060
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 2: Romulus space is a place where you send people out

1061
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 2: there and then you don't ever think about them again.

1062
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 5: Not only can nobody hear you scream, but nobody cares

1063
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 5: if you come back.

1064
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: Look, nobody cares if you come back.

1065
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 4: Nobody cares.

1066
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: Nobody was a shit, You're just out their mind.

1067
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 5: Nobody cares, get us our resources or die. Honestly, Yeah,

1068
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 5: I man, it's been really a fun week as we've

1069
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 5: done this deep dive on all of the not just

1070
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 5: impact of Alien, but sort of its place in cinematic history.

1071
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 5: I think this movie is going to be really important

1072
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 5: in the franchise because the past couple of films that

1073
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 5: have been more fiction director have been they have been

1074
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 5: as well received as earlier projects, and so I think

1075
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 5: with this new direction, a return to horror, a fresh director,

1076
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 5: a bunch of fresh new faces, and by starting young,

1077
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 5: you have this ability to potentially age into an evolve

1078
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 5: like we could potentially be Falling Rain for many movies.

1079
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 5: I think it's like a nice soft reset for the franchise,

1080
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 5: not a hard rese or not rebooting or retooling, but

1081
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 5: a return to the things we loved and an advancement

1082
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 5: in visuals that spells really good things for Alien.

1083
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1084
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 5: I think just being able to have the series as

1085
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 5: a continuation of the storyline, both being able to expand

1086
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 5: the lore, you know, coming in sort of in the

1087
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 5: middle of the timeline instead of like way far out Prometheus,

1088
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 5: like I'm not really sure what the direct connection is.

1089
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 5: It plugs you right back into that central story, but

1090
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 5: again doing something different from Ripley, which is nice. It

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Speaker 5: gives us a little bit of space without alienating the

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Speaker 5: things that we loved about the franchise.

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Speaker 2: Why is this film important? Why is Alien important? Why

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01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 2: is it important to you? Jo, I'll say why it's

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01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 2: important to me. I think it's important to me because

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01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: I think the Alien franchise, when it's at its best,

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01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: explores the things that we talked about class power dynamics,

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01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 2: gender dynamics in a way that is both incredibly entertaining

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Speaker 2: and then really rewarding to think about the more you

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Speaker 2: think about it. And so I think if that if

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01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: they can capture that where it's not just like a

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01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 2: pulse pounding horror in space action adventure gore fest, but

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01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 2: an exploration of like the people and things that we

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Speaker 2: think are expendable in our society.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I really like about Alien and the elasticity

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01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 5: of the storytelling, right, And you can, like a lot

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01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 5: of people hate AU three. I love Three. It's so

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01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 5: weird and bizarre. It's in a great film, No, but

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01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 5: it was a film that allowed itself to be weird

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Speaker 5: and to try. And I think even to Prometheus again,

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01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 5: a whole bunch of people didn't like Prometheus. I think

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Speaker 5: we're seeing some people return to it and see it

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Speaker 5: in a different light. It's definitely different than the rest

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Speaker 5: of the Alien franchise, but I think that's something that's

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Speaker 5: sort of beautiful and allows for growth and depth within.

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Speaker 5: You know, if we're going to continue to see IP

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01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 5: franchises that last decades, like that's the kind of thing

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Speaker 5: need to see, is elasticity and storytelling. All these things

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01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 5: get boring really fast. And I'll also say, like to me,

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Speaker 5: to this day, we don't have enough characters that are

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Speaker 5: fucking awesome as Ripley, like Ripley oh Man to be

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Speaker 5: a woman in business, Like I loved her as a kid,

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Speaker 5: but now watching her talk to men, she's like.

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Speaker 1: I know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 5: But then also like, why is the corporation right this way, Like,

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Speaker 5: none of this makes sense. You guys don't care about

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Speaker 5: people at all. How is that possible to see her

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Speaker 5: constantly go up against these struggles and not you know

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01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 5: typically and again, tears are fine, but we just want

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01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 5: to see them all the time. Like, Ripley never dissolves,

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01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 5: she never collapses in on herself. She's like a endless

1132
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 5: reservoir of power and she survives it. And she's like

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01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 5: a final girl who's totally kick ass and awesome. She's

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01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 5: the best final girl in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: I love Ripley.

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Speaker 5: And so for this franchise to keep going, to keep

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Speaker 5: trying to craft dope incredible women like that, like, it

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01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 5: means a lot to me. I value it a lot.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, I'm excited for these new iterations. I think

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01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 5: we're gonna really you see some really kick ass kids.

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Speaker 5: I'm excited for them.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's end with our box office predictions. What do

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Speaker 2: we think opening weekend Alien romulus? What do we think

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01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 2: the number is going to be?

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Speaker 1: Joelle?

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Speaker 5: So the conservative estimate is between thirty and fifty million dollars,

1147
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:57,919
Speaker 5: which seems completely reasonable, but given Twisters and it's success

1148
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 5: coming off of a franchise that not everyone was sure

1149
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 5: if people still wanted more, right, they were like, is

1150
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 5: this a thing people are actually gonna come see? It

1151
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 5: has some fresh faces, some you know, people that we know,

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01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 5: but it's I really feel like we could be looking

1153
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 5: at a big opening weekend. So I'm gonna go a

1154
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 5: little bit outside of conservative and say, like seventy five,

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01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 5: Twisters did eighty one point two five. Wow, I'm gonna

1156
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 5: say Alien Romulus does seventy five.

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Speaker 2: I So the budget, it's hard to track on budget

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01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 2: info about this movie. It was filmed in Hungary for cheap,

1159
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: but not like sub one hundred million dollar cheap. That said,

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Speaker 2: I think the Twisters analogy is an interesting one. I

1161
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 2: wouldn't have thought of Glenn Powell as a star, but

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Speaker 2: he does have like some star power. Kaylee Spanney, you know,

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01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 2: people know her from Civil War, from Mayor of Sound,

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01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 2: from other stuff. But I think there is a notable

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say lack of star power, but it's

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Speaker 2: not a star driven film and maybe never has been.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, ooh, I'm gonna put it at forty five,

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01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 2: but like that's gonna be framed as a success.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna say forty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he does thirty five. People will think

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Speaker 5: of this as a successful Yes, Like it's horror. Late

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01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 5: summer August, box office can sometimes be pretty slow, so

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Speaker 5: uh yeah, but I'm really hoping but they're gonna be

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Speaker 5: in see It's like I was telling you before, like

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Speaker 5: my dad is Alien obsessed, loves the franchise. He hasn't

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01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 5: been to the theater since OPENHEIMWERG. To be fair, my

1177
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 5: dad built his own movie theater in his basement. So

1178
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Speaker 5: he's like, well, I want to go to the theater.

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Speaker 5: I have one at home. Yeah, he's he's been a

1180
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 5: long project, but he's like, I'm gonna go see it

1181
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 5: in the theater. I want to see it with an audience.

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01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 5: I think horror sort of demands that, and so I'm

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Speaker 5: hoping that brings a lot of people to the theater

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Speaker 5: this weekend.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see it.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next on an X ray vision tomorrow. In fact,

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Speaker 2: Rosie is sitting down with You Joel super producer Joel

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Speaker 2: for deep Dive on the interview with a vampire television series,

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Speaker 2: the sexiest most vamping series on television, including an interview

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Speaker 2: with Starr Sam Reid and to the next week for

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Speaker 2: our Alien Romulus Reaction pod. That's it for this episode,

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Speaker 2: See you next time. X ray Vision is hosted by

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Speaker 2: Jason Ken, Supsion and Rosie Knight and is a production

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Speaker 2: of iHeart Podcasts. Our executive producers are Joelle Smith and

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Speaker 2: Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising producer is a Boo Zafar. Our

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Speaker 2: producers are Carmen Laurent and Mia Taylor. Our theme song

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Speaker 2: is by Brian Basquez.

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Speaker 4: Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman

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Speaker 4: and Heidi on Disco Modera