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Speaker 1: This one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we are on Cutdown Day one, Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, and Bill's re Portomatic Claud joining

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Speaker 2: us in studio right from the jump. As names are

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Speaker 2: trickling out according to reports, nothing official from the team

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Speaker 2: as of yet, but as you know, this is kind

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Speaker 2: of par for the course. On Cutdown Day, names get

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Speaker 2: trickled out through various media sources, and right before we

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Speaker 2: came on the air, there was another one that came

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Speaker 2: courtesy of NFL Networks Mike Garofolo, who announced that the

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Speaker 2: Bills are waiving Gable Stevenson, the former gold medalist in wrestling.

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Speaker 2: Developmental prospect in every sense of the word, put pads

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Speaker 2: on for the first time on the first day of

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Speaker 2: training camp and I think showed some nice things, showed

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Speaker 2: some promise in terms of development. We'll see if that's

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Speaker 2: enough to land him on Buffalo's practice squad. But that's

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Speaker 2: the latest from Mike Garrifolo of NFL Network. There is

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Speaker 2: a working list that we've been kind of compiling for

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Speaker 2: you based on all the names that have been put

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Speaker 2: out there by various media outlets, and it pretty much

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Speaker 2: reads as follows. Quarterback Ben Denucci, wide receiver, Tyrrell Shaver's

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Speaker 2: offensive lineman Gunner Britain, safety Kareem Jackson, wide receiver, Justin Shorter,

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Speaker 2: offensive line Mike Edwards, wide receiver, Xavier Johnson, defensive tackle,

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Speaker 2: Branson Dean, wide receiver, Andy Isabella, safety Kendall Williamson, and

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Speaker 2: the aforementioned Gabel Stevenson. Those again unofficial. They're being reported

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Speaker 2: by various media outlets, both national and local, so we'll

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Speaker 2: wait until the official list comes out at four pm

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Speaker 2: this afternoon for full roster cuts. I guess amongst the reports,

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Speaker 2: nothing shockingly surprising. Maybe some of us thought Tyrrel Shavers

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Speaker 2: had a shot at the active roster in light of

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Speaker 2: the training camp he had.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Do you guys feel like Shavers took what he did

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Speaker 2: in training camp and carried it effectively to the preseason

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Speaker 2: game field. I'm just open ended question. What do you think?

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Speaker 2: I felt like his training camp was stronger than his

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Speaker 2: preseason If that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: I would agree, Yeah, I would agree. He seemed to

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Speaker 1: me like to be one of those guys that was

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Speaker 1: earned a bunch of reps and that's camp. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: that's why I thought, you know, I'd thought more highly

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Speaker 1: who's stuck, he's been in the building for a minute,

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Speaker 1: he'd know the offense, they would have a great handle

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Speaker 1: on what he was really capable of doing. And I

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Speaker 1: thought he played well and we saw him make some

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Speaker 1: a little bit surprised that he wasn't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the report that he's not on the

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Speaker 2: fifty three. So Maddie, let me ask you this question

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Speaker 2: knowing that he, at least based on reports, is not

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Speaker 2: a fifth receiver on the roster option because I think

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Speaker 2: we would all agree the top four we believe our coleman,

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Speaker 2: Samuel Shakir and Hollins. So if he is not the

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Speaker 2: perceived fifth receiver, who would be your choice to be

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Speaker 2: receiver number five on this roster?

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Speaker 3: I think wide receiver number five is Markus Valdas Scantling.

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Speaker 3: We know he's injured right now, but last time we

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Speaker 3: heard from head coach Sean McDermott when he spoke of

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Speaker 4: He said both should be ready for week one.

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Speaker 3: I believe that was pretty telling in what they thought

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Speaker 3: of Valdez Scantling and how they think of him on

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Speaker 3: the fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 4: I think it was right there that.

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Speaker 3: If you didn't believe it before you believed it, then

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Speaker 4: It's not official yet, we have to wait till it.

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Speaker 3: Becomes official at four PM, but I would say number

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Speaker 5: In that room.

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Speaker 2: It was almost an inadvertent slip of the tongue by

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Speaker 1: On what the injury is to MVS the neck injury.

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Speaker 1: If he was going to be like three weeks, they

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Speaker 1: You could do some of that at this point right now. Uh,

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Speaker 2: But there is a new rule this year that you

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Speaker 2: Being told us that on this on the show earlier

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Speaker 2: probably what's going to happen based on what we saw

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Speaker 2: which I think is something we're anticipating seeing in this

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Speaker 2: Definitely.

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Speaker 3: I mean Curtis Samuel has been tasked to learn a

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Speaker 3: too far after that is Samuel because of how he's

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Speaker 3: what we've seen in training camp and also knowing that

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Speaker 3: offensive coordinator Joe Brady and Samuel were together for a season,

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Speaker 3: and when they were together, Samuel was used out wide, inside,

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Speaker 3: Somebody to back up Curtis Samuel in case he goes down,

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Speaker 3: kJ Hamler is a viable option. With how he was

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Speaker 3: if anybody made a last minute effort to show why

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Speaker 3: he deserves a spot on the roster, it was wide

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Speaker 2: But let's not forget Curtis Samuel is injured right now.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's got a week to week toe injury.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's very likely they're carrying six receivers here.

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Speaker 2: You can have your Valveis Scanling as your five, and

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Speaker 2: because I think he's proven he can do everything that

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Speaker 2: Bills personnel and coaching staff like, well, hold on a second,

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Speaker 2: we have an injured receiver in Curtis Samuel who does

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Speaker 2: all those things. This guy could be depth for him

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Speaker 2: and depth for our return.

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Speaker 3: Game exactly when you talk about the depth for the

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Speaker 3: the NCAA last year. But as you transition to the NFL,

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Speaker 3: it's about learning how to be a returner in a

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Speaker 3: up in the air longer. Can I have a longer

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Speaker 3: time to make a decision, But he said the thing

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Speaker 3: for me is learning and knowing what the right decision

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Speaker 3: We heard from general manager Brandon Bean also saying we

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Speaker 3: love Daikwon Hardy, but we want to see a consistent

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Speaker 3: effort in making the right decisions. And as a rookie,

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Speaker 3: you may want somebody to back up that position just

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Speaker 3: that first year. That's a big responsibility for a rookie

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Speaker 3: being your main returner. Maybe you want somebody else next

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Speaker 3: to him to help him along.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Steve. The other position that has an injury

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Speaker 2: consideration is tight end. Quentin Morris with the shoulder injury,

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Speaker 2: maybe you only carry two if this is a serious

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Speaker 1: So do you.

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Speaker 2: Carry an extra tight end and go four deep there

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Speaker 2: because of the perceived or possible lack of ability for

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Speaker 2: all the Quentin Morris's stuff for us in week one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question because we had thought, perhaps

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Speaker 1: be doing a lot of twelve personnel. You can't go

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Speaker 1: twelve personnel without four tight ends. You can't lose that

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Speaker 1: much of your offense if somebody goes down and not

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Speaker 1: that's a question really for the coaching staff as to

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Speaker 1: And if they do, that's gonna be a year long

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Speaker 1: that's not just week one. That's a year long decision.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think they're gonna do that. I think

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Speaker 1: Gilliam gives them some flexibility. I think they've got offensive

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Speaker 1: And vander Mark did it last year or could do it,

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Speaker 2: So we're thinking more likely six wide receivers and three

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Speaker 2: tight ends than four tight ends and five wide receivers

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Speaker 2: in terms of a roster combination on offense. Right, I'm

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Speaker 2: kind of leaning that way.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that you go four and six.

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Speaker 2: No, that's too fast, right, that's too.

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Speaker 1: Fast, because then you've got I think.

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Speaker 2: It's three and six or five and four. It's it's

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Speaker 2: not it's a combination of nine, not ten, right, right.

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Speaker 2: I don't think your your offensive lineup can can take

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you don't have on defense, right, because then

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Speaker 1: you got to have running backs. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And now if they do decide, let's just say hypothetically

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Speaker 2: that Quentin Morris's injury is going to keep him out

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Speaker 1: I think Maddie's right, she read I think you're reading

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Speaker 2: But I was going to say, that's your that's your

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Speaker 1: But it looks to me like that's that's that's a

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Speaker 2: There are other quarterbacks that have already been released today,

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Speaker 2: So there'll be rosters to kind of keep an eye

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Speaker 1: What do you go for us?

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Speaker 7: Wait, you know I'm listening to you, and you're finally

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Speaker 7: thank god. But you know, I don't know where we're

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Speaker 1: Well, Judy, I yeah, okay, I know you don't like

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Speaker 1: Well there is Samuel and Keon Coleman. And because you

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Speaker 2: He hasn't played the game yet. I know it's got

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Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel Curtis Samuel Curtis. Samuel is a fast receiver

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Speaker 1: But I'll say this, I unlike you, Judy, I think

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Chiefs offense was fine without a number

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be really hard for teams

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Speaker 2: And I would encourage you, Judy, to widen your scope

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Speaker 2: And let's not forget this. James Cook had the quietest

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Speaker 2: if they're three and three after six games, because their

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Speaker 3: Outside of the scope of wide receivers on this roster.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones and we'll go to

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Speaker 6: Yes, I will real quick. And Maddie is so good

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Speaker 6: And Steve you aready, hear you, my guy? And Christian

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna play how much. First of all, to the

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Speaker 6: he is. Right now, we have one good quarterback and

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Speaker 6: I'm glad we have him. And based off what you

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Speaker 6: guys were talking about, the tight end and what Joe

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Speaker 6: Brady wants to do, and I think Maddy kind of

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Speaker 6: hit it out the head when she said they're gonna

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Speaker 6: probably keep Mitch. Is that when you get a tight

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Speaker 6: end now, I think they're gonna get more of a

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Speaker 6: blocker because they're not gonna let Josh run around as

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Speaker 6: like you did before. They're gonna try to protect them

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Speaker 6: on So moving with that, But as when it say

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Speaker 6: is when it's practice squad, when it's all set in,

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Speaker 6: and I hope and pray that Brandon being brings back

447
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Speaker 6: Shavers and Shorter and if not, I would like to

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Speaker 6: see them go to another team where they could actually

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Speaker 6: play because I think they were talented and I think

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Speaker 6: they got short change based off the backup quarterback play

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Speaker 6: that we had. But anyway, I love him as j

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Speaker 6: love WGR and the fans. I definitely love you. You guys

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Speaker 6: have a great show.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks. But yeah, that's a good call. You're right, you're

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Speaker 1: if you're keeping a tight end, the blocking tight end

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Speaker 1: because you're worried that Josh you're gonna run too much

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Speaker 1: and get beat up. That's to me, doesn't it's not

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Speaker 1: a valid theory. I don't your old line is responsible

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Speaker 1: for keeping Josh upright. Tight Ends will help, but they're

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Speaker 1: not going to be pass protectors. They're out there to

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Speaker 1: catch the pass. Now, they help, and they got to

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Speaker 1: be able to block and do all that other stuff

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Speaker 1: because they're that kind of tweener guy that we all

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Speaker 1: talk about. You need want a bigger, physical guy, but

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Speaker 1: they've got guys like that on the roster. If you're

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Speaker 1: gonna keep a third tight end for anything other than

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Speaker 1: it's gonna if he gets in the game, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be either to finish out a game because somebody got hurt,

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Speaker 1: or he's in there for a specific package of plays

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Speaker 1: that they got in there for him being in there

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Speaker 1: with three tight ends, or with hint it'll be, or

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Speaker 1: they put him in there with Kincaid and take knocks

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Speaker 1: off or vice versa. They got a combination of players

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Speaker 1: they want him in there for. To me, that speaks

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Speaker 1: Zach Davidson. The problem with Zach Davidson is that's the

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Speaker 1: only thing they're gonna be able to use him for.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that third tight end. You can't be

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Speaker 1: just a one trick guy. You got to you gotta

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Speaker 1: be versatile. But if you're talking about offense, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: bet Joe Brady stands on the table for the guy

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Speaker 1: because he can really He kind of one handed ball

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Speaker 1: the other day. Yeah, and he did. He's been doing

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Speaker 1: that in the entire training.

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Speaker 2: Camp and he's a giant target. So the question now becomes,

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Speaker 2: and we're just getting this word from NFL Network's Tom

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Speaker 2: Pelasero that the Bills have released kJ Hamler as well.

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Speaker 2: So Hamler's out of the mix. We're expecting Valdez Scandling

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Speaker 2: to probably be the fifth receiver. I'm kind of wondering now,

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Speaker 2: I think, is Zach Davidson now essentially your sixth receiver?

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Speaker 2: And maybe he's not active every week, you know, but

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Speaker 2: if you have an injuried receiver, instead of calling a

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Speaker 2: receiver up from the practice squad. Maybe Zach Davidson is

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Speaker 2: up for the week and essentially serves as a tight receiver,

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Speaker 2: which is what I call it him. He's kind of

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Speaker 2: a hybrid. I mean that's what he is. He's not

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Speaker 2: a true tight end. He's not a true receiver. He's

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Speaker 2: kind of a hybrid. But he's an interesting he's an

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Speaker 2: interesting specimen, to say the least. I think it's we're

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Speaker 2: getting building momentum that we're looking at a four tight

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Speaker 2: end roster this year. Let's get back to the phones

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Speaker 2: and we go to Ryan in Toronto.

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Speaker 1: Neck.

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Speaker 8: What's up, Ryan, Hey, Chris, Maddy, Steve, Chris. Firstphan, I

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Speaker 8: need to I've gotta disagree with you your response to

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Speaker 8: Judy's call about the last three games the Jets and

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Speaker 8: the Patriots twice. Remember the Bills lost to both those

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Speaker 8: teams last year.

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Speaker 2: They did second, Sorry they did you right, They split

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Speaker 2: with both.

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Speaker 8: So it's not those three games are are guarantree W's. Thirdly,

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Speaker 8: I feel like the Bills roster is going backwards and

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Speaker 8: the goal is to beat Casey and Casey actually looking ahead,

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Speaker 8: they got a QB two B they signed due to

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Speaker 8: in case Rice Kates suspended the ahead of the game.

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Speaker 8: Why can the well, why can't Brian uh Bean be ahead?

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Speaker 8: Like how the Chiefs are doing. I'm so confused, so frustrated.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think I think I'll tell you this, Ryan.

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Speaker 1: I think one thing. I think Brandon likes the wide

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Speaker 1: receivers they've got. I think he likes them. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they feel like they're behind that. And I'll say this,

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Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes isn't over there doing jumping jacks after the

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Speaker 1: guys he's lost in the last three years. None of

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Speaker 1: the guys they won the Super Bowl with their back

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Speaker 1: except they just signed Juju. All the guys he threw

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Speaker 1: the ball to last year gone.

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Speaker 2: Well except for Rashie Rice, who's.

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Speaker 1: Still there and who right? So as they as the

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Speaker 1: season starts, So you know, I yeah, I get it

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Speaker 1: they're chasing the Chiefs. Everybody is. But I think you're

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Speaker 1: underestimating the value that the Bills place on the guys

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Speaker 1: they've got in the room. I think they really like

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Speaker 1: these guys. And we haven't seen we haven't seen Keon

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Speaker 1: Coleman and Shakir Kincaid, Knox and Samuel on the field

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Speaker 1: together and Cook as well. Just give it a chance here.

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Speaker 1: I think they're really confident in the guys they've got

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Speaker 1: in the room. I think they're really excited about their prospects. Offensively.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about their offensive line to know when this offseason.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this about the quarterback, and no disrespect

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Speaker 1: to anybody on the team or anybody who's past, present

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Speaker 1: or future, but if if a guy like Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: goes down on your team, so do your season. I

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Speaker 1: mean that that doesn't mean they're completely done, but come on,

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Speaker 1: so I get it that you want to have the

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Speaker 1: best guy possible and you want to have your roster

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Speaker 1: at a point where you can win with anybody in

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Speaker 1: any position. But let's be realistic. I think the Bills

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Speaker 1: have put enough guy weapons around Josh and I got

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Speaker 1: we've We've had calls in the last few days that

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Speaker 1: they have never given Josh down, you know, help and offense.

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Speaker 1: I disagree that Josh's got a lot of guys in

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Speaker 1: the backfield, the skill positions on offense to help him.

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Speaker 1: A lot of them. They're gonna be fine on that

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Speaker 1: side of the ball. I'm not gonna say they're scoring

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Speaker 1: thirty five points a game, but they're gonna be able,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be hard to outscore, even with the schedule

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Speaker 1: they've got. So I'm yeah, I am. I'm not putting

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs receivers room ahead of the Bills

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Speaker 1: receivers room. All right, that includes the tight.

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Speaker 2: Ends, all right, Maddie, before we let you get on

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Speaker 2: out of here. Defensively, we know they're heavy at defensive end,

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Speaker 2: a little beat up at linebacker, and still recovering from

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Speaker 2: injury at safety. How do you kind of see those

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Speaker 2: positions playing out on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking at the linebackers room, and as I'm

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Speaker 3: figuring out or trying to do, my best guess is

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Speaker 3: who will be a part of it. My number goes

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Speaker 3: to five linebackers, not counting Matt Mulano. Just because of

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Speaker 3: the injury history with that group in the past. I

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Speaker 3: think they want to carry an extra guy, knowing that

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Speaker 3: there have been injuries there in the past, and also

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Speaker 3: knowing that we're not exactly sure who's going to start

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Speaker 3: at that will linebacker spot. I mean, we've seen Dorian

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Speaker 3: Williams out there, but it's not anything official that he's

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Speaker 3: going to be the sto He was the guy out

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Speaker 3: there in the first two weeks the preseason. We know

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Speaker 3: starters did not play in that last preseason game, but

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Speaker 3: I think that's something that still needs to be figured out.

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Speaker 4: And you know, you may.

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Speaker 3: Go with Dorian on certain weeks and go with somebody

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Speaker 3: else on other weeks, depending on what type of offense

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Speaker 3: that you're playing against. In terms of edge rushers and

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Speaker 3: defensive tackles, I think ten is the lucky number there.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna go heavier with numbers wise on with edge rushers,

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Speaker 3: just knowing how they rotate through those positions on both ends.

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Speaker 3: And then safety safety is a great question mark because

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Speaker 3: is Cole Bishop and Mike Edwards going to be ready

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Speaker 3: for Week one? Who is your starter opposite of Taylor Rap.

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Speaker 3: If Taylor Rap is going to hold down one of

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Speaker 3: those safety spots, DeMar Hamlin is also out with injury

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Speaker 3: right now, who is gonna be that guy that fills

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Speaker 3: in that other spot. I think that's a question mark

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Speaker 3: all of us are asking ourselves right now, as well

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Speaker 3: as the coaching staff. It's a little bit of a projection,

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Speaker 3: but I think today it's also important to not forget

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Speaker 3: about the fact that This is a really hard day

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Speaker 3: for a lot of players in the NFL. They spend

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Speaker 3: the entire offseason working tiresly to make a roster. And

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Speaker 3: to hear that you're waived today and you don't you're

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Speaker 3: not supposed to show up to work the next day

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Speaker 3: after you've made so many relationships with coaches and players,

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Speaker 3: is a really, really tough pill to swallow. We hear

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Speaker 3: all the time from coaches and players about you know,

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Speaker 3: this is a business, and it's a cutthroat business, and

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Speaker 3: it's a reminder of why it's such a tough business

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Speaker 3: on day's l like today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mattie, thanks for jumping in and kind of giving

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Speaker 2: us your take on the roster and where we think

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Speaker 2: it's headed. We appreciate it. That's Bill's reporter Matty Gleb

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Speaker 2: joining us here in studio. We will get back to

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Speaker 2: your phone calls when we return, So Philip and Hamburg,

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Speaker 2: Adam and Silver Creek and others holding, we'll get to

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Speaker 2: you when we return here on One Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 2: by Colida Health, It's Buffalo. Bill's all right back here

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Speaker 2: on one of Bill's Live. On a Tuesday, cut down

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Speaker 2: day in the NFL, tough day for a lot of

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Speaker 2: players as rosters are reduced from ninety to fifty three.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and heading right back

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Speaker 2: to the phones at eight oh three, oh five fifty

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Speaker 2: one eight eight eight five fifty two, five fifty into

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Speaker 2: Philip and Hamburg, we go, what's up, Philip?

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Speaker 9: Hi, don't guys good? I was wondering everybody knows the

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Speaker 9: story about Tom Brady where he wasn't drafted. I think

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Speaker 9: was it the fifth rounded he was drafted?

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Speaker 2: It was a sixth round draft choice.

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Speaker 9: Well sixth round, okay, and then we know the story

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Speaker 9: of obviously if Kurt Warner mean that that that miracle

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Speaker 9: right underdog would happened. There is in your lifetime of

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Speaker 9: doing sports. Can you remember a different rookie that was

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Speaker 9: not that didn't that the U fifty three man roster

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Speaker 9: it turned out to be a superstar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been, man, there are examples.

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Speaker 1: There are examples, like you know, John Randall was undrafted

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Speaker 1: and I don't think he started with the with the

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Speaker 1: Vikings and ended up in the Hall of Fame. Andre

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Speaker 1: Reid was the fourth round draft.

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Speaker 2: But are you just asking about quarterbacks specifically?

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Speaker 9: Oh no, not quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean how.

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Speaker 1: About Fred Jackson, Well, yeah, okay, I mean, I mean.

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Speaker 2: He went from Division three to Continental Indoor Football League,

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Speaker 2: to NFL Europe, to Bill's practice squad to active roster

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Speaker 2: to nine year NFL career.

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Speaker 1: Well even Joe Thaisman played in Canada for a minute,

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Speaker 1: Warren Moon played, Warren Moon played, won six Great Cups

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Speaker 1: and then to the CFL up. Yeah, there's The league

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Speaker 1: is full of stories of guys who were overlooked or

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Speaker 1: looked past or passed over h in player selection or

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Speaker 1: cut from teams who came back. You know, Johnny Unanus

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Speaker 1: was Johnny Unanitis was cut and was traded for one

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars and ended up being one of the pillars

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Speaker 1: of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I mean, you

653
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Speaker 1: got guys who are great players talking in whispers about

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Speaker 1: Johnny Unanus and Carl.

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Speaker 2: Mecklenberg was a twelfth round draft choice.

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Speaker 1: Carl Mecklenberg was a twelfth round draft pick Denver Broncos. Yeah. Oh,

657
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Speaker 1: I know, I grew up out there near them, so yeah, yes,

658
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: the league is full of guys because it's an inexact science.

659
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Speaker 1: I mean, and even though they apply a lot of

660
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Speaker 1: science to it these days. Very hard to pick a

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Speaker 1: guy with a big heart, the right kind of heart,

662
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Speaker 1: and the right kind of intelligence. And they even test

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Speaker 1: for intelligence, so it's hard. So they still miss on guys.

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Speaker 1: Everybody does once in a while. Yeah, it's just part

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Speaker 1: of the business.

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Speaker 2: Back to the phones into Adam and Silver Creek. What

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Speaker 2: do you got for us, Adam?

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Speaker 10: Are you guys getting ready for the season?

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Speaker 11: Here?

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Speaker 10: Just mon comments on the CBS Sports put out article

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Speaker 10: about the top five head coaches in the AFC under

672
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Speaker 10: the most pressure, and Seawn shows up as number two on.

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Speaker 12: That list, only with Robert sala ahead of him, And

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Speaker 12: I mean I think Salas ahead of them just because

675
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Speaker 12: of the market, which to me puts McDermott as like

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Speaker 12: the number one head coach in the AFC who has

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Speaker 12: to have the most pressure on. And he just says

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Speaker 12: at the article, in his entire tenure, you know, we've

679
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Speaker 12: been nothing but perennial contenders, and we've only been to

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Speaker 12: the AFC Championship just once, and whether we like it

681
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 12: or not, that's a direct reflection of our leadership. You know,

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Speaker 12: when we get to the playoffs, every team is talented

683
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Speaker 12: and these games are decided by the people who who

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Speaker 12: make the decisions. So just kind of seeing where you

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Speaker 12: guys are at, you know, in terms of, like my

686
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Speaker 12: own opinion, I think this out to.

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Speaker 10: Be Sean's last year.

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Speaker 13: This is this is a proven you know, if you

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Speaker 13: can't get to the AFC Championship this year, then I

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Speaker 13: really think it's time to start looking elsewhere. And just

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Speaker 13: wanted your guys opinion on it, and I'll hang up

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Speaker 13: a listen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I Adam, I disagree completely. I think it's about

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Speaker 1: getting shots on goal. I mean, I'm a guy. I'm

695
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Speaker 1: a guy who had four shots at it in the

696
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl and didn't win. You're you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't mean you didn't have a good team, yeah, or

698
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Speaker 2: a good coach and you're, by the way, is in

699
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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: What if?

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Speaker 2: What if?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think that's crazy talk. Yeah. Sure, everybody's disappointed,

703
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Speaker 1: and you can you can point to maybe specific instances

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Speaker 1: where Sean mcdermomt is like, oh my gosh, what are

705
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Speaker 1: you doing? Okay, Well, there are fifty there are forty

706
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Speaker 1: seven or forty eight guys on the on the field

707
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Speaker 1: every game that make a bigger difference than Sean does,

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Speaker 1: and and you get into those moments, you got to

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Speaker 1: play well. And sure. My my point in this is

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Speaker 1: all always my fallback is this. Would you rather have

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Speaker 1: hire somebody brand new who has different lessons to learn

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Speaker 1: than Sean McDermott did when he took over, maybe even more,

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Speaker 1: and trade him out for that? Or would you rather

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Speaker 1: have a guy like Sean McDermott who and I've said

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Speaker 1: this on the air, I think the guy's gotten better

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Speaker 1: and better as a head coach. Have him lose his

717
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Speaker 1: job here in Buffalo, go someplace else and win it

718
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Speaker 1: like Andy Reid did when he left Philly. Andy Reidan

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Speaker 1: never won the Big One either, and they only went

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Speaker 1: to one. Remember they went to like the four NFC

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Speaker 1: title games in a row. What do you think the

722
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Speaker 1: Philly fans were thinking they forced him out? Now He's

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Speaker 1: sitting there with the best team in football and has

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Speaker 1: been for five years.

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Speaker 2: He took all the lessons that he learned in Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: and applied to him in Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't do you're asking for the same thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that if I were you.

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Speaker 2: Because I'll tell you right now, if this organization moves

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Speaker 2: on for McDermott. It'll take three seconds for him to

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Speaker 2: get hired somewhere else, three seconds if he wants to

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Speaker 2: be I mean, first of first and foremost. We hear

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Speaker 2: all the time that, oh wow, he's only good enough

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Speaker 2: to get you to the playoffs. He's gotten you to

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Speaker 2: the playoffs each of the last five seasons, amid some

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Speaker 2: pretty remarkable circumstances, injury riddled roster last year, an offensive

737
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Speaker 2: coordinator change last year, when the team was at a

738
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Speaker 2: crossroads at six and six, he made a pretty bold

739
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Speaker 2: decision to change coordinators mid stream and then made it

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Speaker 2: work with a defense that was carrying that team for

741
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Speaker 2: a little stretch there when they weren't scoring as many points.

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Speaker 2: And it was a defense without Daykwon Jones, Matt Mulano,

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Speaker 2: and Tredevius White. So, I mean, you want to argue credentials,

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Speaker 2: and I'll just say this, there's only two teams in

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Speaker 2: the league that have made the playoffs each of the

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Speaker 2: last five years in a row. It's the Bills and

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs. That's it. So you can argue Chiefs all

748
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Speaker 2: you want, and that's fine, But the Bills have had

749
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Speaker 2: just as many injuries as every other team in the league,

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Speaker 2: because I'll say, well, Cincinnati din't make the playoffs. Oh

751
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: but didn't have Burrow. Okay, that's fine. You lose your quarterback.

752
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Speaker 2: It's tough to kind of overcome that.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 2: But look at all the other teams around the league.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Eagles go to the Super Bowl two

756
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: years ago. They crawled into the playoffs last year and

757
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: lost in the first round. I mean, the Bills have

758
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Speaker 2: won a playoff game, you know, since twenty twenty at

759
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: least one every year. Dolphins have made the playoffs. The

760
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Speaker 2: last two years haven't won a playoff game. Got the

761
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Speaker 2: best offense in football, So yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you got to And I'll say this take

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Speaker 1: every year in and of itself. Every team's different. Every

764
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Speaker 1: year is different, and it has been a you know

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00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: last year, we can you can point right to the

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Speaker 1: defense and say, you know, they just they were working

767
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Speaker 1: with a skeleton crew defensively in the playoff off. Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: no tailor rat If you can go to the and

769
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Speaker 1: if you want to hang one on somebody, hang the

770
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Speaker 1: thirteen seconds on the coaching staff. Then if you know,

771
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Speaker 1: then you can go go away however you want to

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Speaker 1: slice it. I'll know this. You've got a head coach

773
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Speaker 1: who's got a team that over the last forty regular

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Speaker 1: season games, nobody has been able to beat them by

775
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Speaker 1: more than one possession. They're hard to beat, and you

776
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Speaker 1: got to you gotta keep going with that, that philosophy.

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Speaker 1: And this year they're gonna have fresh players and a

778
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Speaker 1: different outlook, and I've you know what I think they're

779
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Speaker 1: gonna do. I think they're gonna be really good, even

780
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Speaker 1: if they get out of the block slow, because of

781
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Speaker 1: the new the changeover, this coaching staff, if nothing else

782
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: gets they maximize their players. Players play better under this

783
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Speaker 1: coaching staff than they do other places. So there's every

784
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Speaker 1: reason to believe this has the potential to be the

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Speaker 1: best team they've had. And I don't even if they're not,

786
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Speaker 1: I don't know how you kick the guy to the

787
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Speaker 1: curb when, like Brownie says, they're one of two teams

788
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: that makes the playoffs every year. Two But that's you know,

789
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: for some of that's not good enough, and it's not

790
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: good enough for them. They want to win the whole

791
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: thing too, But it's about for me, it's about getting it,

792
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: taking those attempts and making the best of each and

793
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Speaker 1: every one of them. Last year, they got some bad

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00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: breaks and they've had those, they've had those in the

795
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: past as well. But you're gonna, you know, one of

796
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Speaker 1: these years, you're you know, you're gonna hit through. You're

797
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Speaker 1: gonna break through. That's my thing.

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Speaker 2: I you can't break through unless you're going back there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't break through unless you're going back if

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Speaker 1: you if you were to do that, make the sweeping

801
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: changes that some fans think it's easy to do, and like,

802
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: you're just gonna pick up, you know, Josh Allens's gonna

803
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: pick up where he left off. You have a new

804
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, a new defensive coordinator, a new special teams coordinator,

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00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, a whole new staff, all the position team,

806
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: the position groups will be having new coachings, new coaches,

807
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: head coach, the whole thing. And you just think they're

808
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: just gonna take off and go again. But well, I mean,

809
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: but you're not willing to take a half step back

810
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Speaker 1: by refurbishing the roster with the guy who's gotten you there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, that doesn't make sense to me, you know,

812
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Speaker 1: I mean, they've taken four really good swings at it.

813
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: You know, keep going to bat because if you make

814
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: the changes you're talking about, you're not going to bat

815
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Speaker 1: next year. You're not going to the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: We have to take a break here, but more of

817
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Speaker 2: your phone calls when we return. While we were talking,

818
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: the Chiefs have released a pair of receivers Kadarius Tony

819
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Speaker 2: and Justin Ross, so they are thinning their ranks at

820
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Speaker 2: the receiver position. We will take a break, but more

821
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Speaker 2: of your phone calls when we come back. So if

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Speaker 2: you're on hold, stay there. We'll do our best to

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Speaker 2: get to you in short order. Here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by Coli of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All

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Speaker 2: right back here on One Bill's Live. I'm going to

826
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Speaker 2: get right back to the phone because yet a lot

827
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Speaker 2: of people holding. And we go to Ron in California. Next.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for us round? You're on One

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Speaker 14: Yes, I guys, great show. Uh listen, I like to

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Speaker 14: I kind of agree, uh to the last caller. I

832
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 14: know Steve got a little upset about, uh, why is

833
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Speaker 14: not you know, why is not management coaching matching our talent?

834
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Speaker 14: And uh, let's let's face it. I believe that if

835
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Speaker 14: we have better schemes for our talent, for individual uh

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Speaker 14: plays and uh what I'm talking about is our lines.

837
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Speaker 14: If we control our lines, the game could be simple.

838
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Speaker 14: Am I right? Like, let's if we open the holes up.

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Speaker 14: Let's just give me strategic plays. Open up these darn

840
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 14: holes that are Josh Allen will have a field day

841
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 14: on the receivers. And everyone's worried about our talent, and

842
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 14: we have the talent, we have to have the coaching

843
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Speaker 14: to match it. Well, that's what I'm going to look

844
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 14: at this year. Look at the defense. If we can

845
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Speaker 14: control the line penetrate. We're worried about our no linebackers

846
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 14: and safeties. We have the talent. My point is everything

847
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Speaker 14: will fall into place if they just give them strategic plays.

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Speaker 14: I see it often every year where other teams, you know,

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Speaker 14: the play action play you know, I see it's like artwork,

850
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 14: you know. And the Bills, now they did they did,

851
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 14: they did find something last year had his play action

852
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Speaker 14: and also our running game. Let's just double down on that.

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Speaker 14: You know, this is where we got to turn over,

854
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 14: turn a leaf and we're going to get to that

855
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Speaker 14: Super Bowl. I'm telling you, and Steve knows this, and

856
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 14: uh you know, it's just we got to strategically implant

857
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 14: these plays in detail to our players so that they

858
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 14: know exactly what the noise like a chess game, you know.

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Speaker 14: Come on, all right, Ron, a wonderful.

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Speaker 2: Game, Thank you, thanks, thanks for the call. We got

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00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 2: other people to get to look. I understand where you're

862
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 2: coming from. But at the same time, football isn't all

863
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: about scheme because you also need execution of that scheme

864
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 2: on the field. Just about any coach in the NFL

865
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: will tell you could have the best scheme ever drawn up.

866
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 2: If you don't have the players that can effectively execute it,

867
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 2: you got to do something else that they can execute.

868
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 2: That's always a factor as well and should be remembered.

869
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: And you're talking about a running game. Bill's are the

870
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: fourth best rushing team in football after Joe Brady took over.

871
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 2: They had a good offensive line last year. They got

872
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: another one this year, and I'm hopeful that the defensive

873
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 2: line is even more effective. And middle linebacker is kind

874
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: of an important position, Ron, so we are going to

875
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: talk about it. When the Bills didn't have their middle

876
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 2: linebacker in the playoff game against the Chiefs because Terrel

877
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: Bernard was injured.

878
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: How did it look?

879
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 2: Not too good by the way. They also didn't have

880
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 2: Taylor rap in that game and they lost by three.

881
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 2: So I mean, look, you guys want to slice in

882
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 2: any way you want, You're not going to be happy.

883
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: I can't change your mind. That's your opinion. You're entitled

884
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: to it, have at it. But there's an awful lot

885
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: of extenuating circumstances and a lot of the playoff games

886
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: that have taken place under McDermott's tenure.

887
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Speaker 1: So yeah, the bottom line isn't And you're right, I

888
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: don't know that you can come up with schemes that

889
00:46:54,920 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: aren't older than me. There's no there's nothing new this.

890
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: I mean the game is certainly that the game has

891
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: evolved and they've allowed more things to come into play

892
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 1: and and that kind of thing. But these guys aren't

893
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: coaching in a vacuum. The players aren't playing in a vacuum.

894
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: Yet it's easy enough to say, hey, go out and

895
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: dominate the line of scrimmage. Well, you know, those guys

896
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: draft high too, and they get big dudes on their

897
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 1: team too. You've got to have smart players who play

898
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: hard and who and who are disciplined and all that

899
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: and you got you got like five million moving parts

900
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: on every NFL team, and you're just trying to get

901
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: more moving parts in your way in your team to

902
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 1: move better than the million parts on their team are moving.

903
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: It is a hard league to win games in. Nobody

904
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: understands how hard it is to win games. And when

905
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of things that are clicking really well,

906
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: the last thing you want to do is throw those

907
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: out and start from scratch when you still haven't fixed

908
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: the other half million parts that aren't working so well.

909
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: This is a team that's got a lot going on

910
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: right now for the better. I mean they have. They

911
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: are a hard team to be They're in it. They

912
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: got the right guy taking snaps. They got a coaching

913
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: staff that has has now has some cohesion, and a

914
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator that has been in the building. They

915
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: got a great understanding of the roster. They got a

916
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: head coach who has done nothing but maximize defensive talent

917
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: under his roof better than most teams are able to do.

918
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: So just you know, this is going to be another

919
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,479
Speaker 1: good football team. It's going to be another good football team.

920
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: And one of the byproducts of that is that they

921
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: got one of the hardest schedules to play, so that

922
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: may take its toll on this season, but this team

923
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: is going to be really, really good.

924
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: Let's go to Dave in Buffalo here, what do you

925
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: got for us?

926
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: Dave?

927
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 15: I would say that, unlike a lot of fans, I'm

928
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 15: really pleased with where Brandon Bean is taking things. I mean,

929
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 15: it's bad not to win the Super Bowl, but not

930
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 15: almost everything's server one lose the Super Bowl every year,

931
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 15: so you know, you just sack up and you're tied again.

932
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 15: But overall, in terms of what I've said that I

933
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 15: was really surprised, but please about is actually the cut

934
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 15: of Shavers and Shorter today. I think the Bills are

935
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 15: really going to go towards more of a twelve man setup,

936
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 15: go more towards two tight ends. I think that makes

937
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 15: a lot of sense. If you look at the Bills

938
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 15: last year, the key part of the season with they

939
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 15: went six and one in the last seven games, and

940
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 15: actually it wasn't. Diggs is a great player, but he

941
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 15: really wasn't. His big contribution was in the first part

942
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 15: of the season. Davis was an over a lot of times.

943
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 15: At the towards the end of the season, and it

944
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 15: actually where they got the real production from was Kincaid

945
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 15: Knox for got better and came back. And I see

946
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 15: it's going this year into a setup where we come

947
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 15: out and the twelve man set up and two tight

948
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 15: ends force the other OC or DC to decide where

949
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 15: he's going to try to bulk up because we've got

950
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 15: two tight ends, or whether he's going to try to

951
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 15: deal with the fact that Kinkke and Knocks are both

952
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 15: outside threats, and then if they try to deal with

953
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 15: them as passing threats, so we run, and if they

954
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 15: deal with the big running threat, and then we go

955
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 15: out and we even put cookout and we with empty

956
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 15: back thoughse and we pass. So I feel really good

957
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 15: about how we're set up and look forward to the season.

958
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 2: All right, thanks very much, Dave, appreciate that. Yeah, I mean,

959
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 2: I think, and we've said this also during the course

960
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: of the preseason, I think Joe Brady has kept more

961
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 2: under wraps than this Bill's offense has in any previous

962
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 2: year in the McDermott regime. They have played things extremely

963
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 2: close to the vest. A lot of what we've seen

964
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: in the preseason I think is a lot of plays

965
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: that they ran last year. I don't think they have

966
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 2: shown one iota of what they're going to be doing

967
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 2: on offense here in the regular season this year, and

968
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: that is by design.

969
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm you're right there, Shorter and Shavers being out

970
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: of the door. I mean they may not be completely

971
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: out the door. They may be on the practice squad,

972
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: or they may be being they people know they're gonna

973
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: clear waivers and gonna bring him back whatever. Who knows, uh,

974
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of receivers gonna be out on

975
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: the market over the next day or two. But yeah,

976
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 1: I'm surprised by that as well. And maybe it does

977
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: point to two tight end or you know, twelve or

978
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: thirteen personnel sets. I don't know. We're gonna have to

979
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: find I have to sit and wait, but I do

980
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: know I'm kind of with Brownie on this, you know,

981
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: the room. I think they've got something. I think they've

982
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: got a lot up their sleeve this year. I think

983
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 1: they're offensively, they really feel good about what they're gonna

984
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: be able to put on the field. James Cook, Khalilshakir,

985
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: Dalton Kinkaid is just the starting point. And I think

986
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: Keon Coleman is gonna be a real weapon for them

987
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: as well. So I'm I'm very optimistic about where this

988
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 1: team's gonna be offensively this year, and defensively, I'm almost like, listen,

989
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna McDermott's gonna figure it out. He always does

990
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: to a high degree. They're very difficult to get on

991
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: top of. So I'm yeah, I'm I'm kind of just

992
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: waiting to see where this roster thing falls today because

993
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: up until now, I admit with Brownie and now we're

994
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: a little surprised with Shavers and Shorter both hitting the

995
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: curb and kJ Hammler, I.

996
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 2: Would say Shavers, this is a prize. Shorter, it's not

997
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: for me. Yeah, And Hammler I thought might have been

998
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 2: a six. If they keep six, I think more and

999
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 2: more it's trending towards them keeping only five receivers, which

1000
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 2: could mean four tight ends. We'll have to wait and see.

1001
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, more of your phone calls

1002
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: when we come back on cutdown Day. Here on One

1003
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Speaker 2: Bill's Live presented by co Lot of Health. It's Buffalo

1004
00:52:27,760 --> 00:53:09,480
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1005
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live presented by Calllia Health.

1006
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 2: All right, here we are on one Bill's Live on

1007
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 2: cutdown Day. Tuesday, four pm is the deadline for all

1008
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 2: thirty two teams to get their final cuts. In Jacksonville,

1009
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 2: Jaguars posted all of theirs about an hour ago, so

1010
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: their news is already done for the day. But we

1011
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 2: are taking your phone calls today at ATO three oh

1012
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two, five point

1013
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 2: fifty and looking for your ideal scenario for the bills

1014
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 2: fifty three man roster. You can let us know ATO

1015
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: three oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two

1016
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: five fifty the number to get on board. Let's get

1017
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 2: to some people that have been waiting patiently, including Tim

1018
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 2: down in Carolina. What do you got for us? Tim?

1019
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 16: Hey, guys, thanks for having me on. I just wanted

1020
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 16: to call because the first hour of the show just

1021
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 16: seemed like a lot of people calling in like they

1022
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 16: were rooting for a five win team or something. I

1023
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 16: don't really understand it, but I really really like where

1024
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 16: the team is headed. You know, they had to make

1025
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 16: some tough decisions in the offseason, Diggs Davis, you know,

1026
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 16: the offensive line, you know, things like that. I really like.

1027
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 16: I think it's keeping the window open. You know they're

1028
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 16: getting a healthy Von Miller back as well, But the

1029
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 16: main thing is, like, this is the first time Joe

1030
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 16: Brady's had a full offseason and saw the offense, and

1031
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 16: like you guys just said, I don't think they've shown

1032
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 16: anything to this point. I think they're going to come

1033
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 16: firing out of the gates. I really like the personnel.

1034
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 16: People are kind of dogging the receivers, but if you

1035
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 16: look at the group as a whole, we've got two

1036
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 16: stellar tight ends that anybody would take. I think they're

1037
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 16: the best tight end room probably in the league. That

1038
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 16: comes to mind. You turn around, Josh's handing the ball

1039
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 16: off to a sixteen hundred yard guy. Like you said earlier, Brownie,

1040
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 16: And by the way, Ray Davis looks like he's an animal.

1041
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 16: I don't know. I just I don't really know what

1042
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 16: people are thinking. I really like where the Bills are headed.

1043
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 16: This is easily another eleven twelve win team, you know,

1044
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 16: barring anything crazy to happen. But one thing I want

1045
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 16: to say before I get off the line. Me personally,

1046
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 16: I'm kind of over the whole Baylen Inspector deal. He's

1047
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 16: a phenomenal linebacker, but he's just never been available when

1048
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,959
Speaker 16: we needed them to. I think it's really really time

1049
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 16: to move off that, and I'd love to see somebody

1050
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 16: like Buffalo Joe make the team. I want to know

1051
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 16: what you guys think. Thanks for taking my call.

1052
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 1: Sure, it's a real consideration. We talked. We had that talk,

1053
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: Brownie and I. One of the reasons Joe Andreesen got

1054
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: as many opportunities as he did is because guys were unavailable,

1055
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: and Inspector was one of them. So is Nicholas Morrow

1056
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: and Nick Morrow is another one. So yeah, and depends

1057
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 1: on what the coaching staff saw when Joe was in there,

1058
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: if if he played well enough, or if he played

1059
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: in a way that it wasn't markedly different than they

1060
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: would expect Bail Inspector to play, or Moro or any

1061
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: of the other guys. Yeah, I mean that, How do

1062
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: you not? How does he not make the team? It's

1063
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: a great story. And sometimes me and Brownie something we

1064
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: in the media sometimes we get carried away with these

1065
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 1: stories and make more of them than it should be.

1066
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: And maybe we did that with with Joe Andreeson as well.

1067
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: But I think I think the guy showed versatility. He

1068
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: plays linebackers, seems to me well enough to be out there.

1069
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 1: He played special teams some in this last game, and

1070
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: from what I saw, and I was trying to watch

1071
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 1: it kind of live, I haven't gone back and really

1072
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: rewatched it. He played really well on teams. He was

1073
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: where he was supposed to be and and won his matchups.

1074
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: If if Joe Andreeson doesn't make this squad, I think

1075
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: one reason would probably be is just his foot speed.

1076
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: That's basically the only shortcoming I've seen him have mentally.

1077
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: He seemed there now. He did get crossed up with

1078
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: Dion Jones on the touchdown pass underneath, and I illustrated

1079
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: on the broadcast. Both linebackers took the guy in the flat,

1080
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: and Jones and Dreason should have switched off. The outside

1081
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: guy came in and the inside guy went out, and

1082
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: the outside and inside linebacker should have just waited for

1083
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: the guy to come to them and then taken that guy.

1084
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: And Dreason chased the flat guy and Jones did too,

1085
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: and they left the guy over the middle uncovered. That stinks,

1086
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: But that's a mental mistake that yet that I don't think.

1087
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: We hadn't seen him make those now if that's a problem,

1088
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: maybe that's something we don't know about. But that's the

1089
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: one mistake we saw him make that you could point

1090
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: to and say, yeah, that's probably somebody's fault right there.

1091
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: You know, stuff like that counts. So if he doesn't

1092
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: make the squad, I mean, Joe himself will probably be

1093
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: able to give you some pretty specific reasons as to why.

1094
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: But man o, man, if he does make the squad,

1095
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: he's not gonna have to justify it to anybody because

1096
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: he played a lot in this preseason and they got

1097
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: a really good look at who and what he is.

1098
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm like anybody else, I'd love to

1099
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: see Joe make it, and I hope he makes it

1100
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,959
Speaker 1: on a year when this team goes to and wins

1101
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. His story is that, right. So yeah,

1102
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know if Joe's gonna

1103
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: make it. I mean I like it. I think it's

1104
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: great put him on the team. I'm all for him.

1105
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm all for him. I was I was a guy

1106
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: kind of like that, you know, I mean I was,

1107
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't I didn't look the part, and

1108
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: I was a low draft pick. I wasn't, but I

1109
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't come from as far out of

1110
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: it as as Andreesen did. So, Yeah, I think andresen

1111
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: Is is a good story. Maybe we've blown it up

1112
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: in the media, but maybe not. I don't know, I've

1113
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: You know, the guy played a lot, and he played

1114
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: really well. He was around the footstra all the time,

1115
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: he was productive. He doesn't have to explain why he

1116
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: makes the team if he makes the team, right, I

1117
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 1: mean we and all say, yeah, you're right, he played good.

1118
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: So we'll see.

1119
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones and to Mark in

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00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 2: Tonawanda next, what's up Mark?

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00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 17: Hey, guys, I just think, I mean, I can't say

1122
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 17: enough about Sean McDermott, the character, the person. I mean,

1123
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 17: what he's done for this community is just on his

1124
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 17: second to none. The kind of guys he's wanted on

1125
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 17: this team. I mean, this team is likable. Everyone on

1126
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 17: this team's been likable. But I think it's fair to

1127
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 17: be a little critical of them. Okay, thirteen seconds, you.

1128
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:21,439
Speaker 6: Can't have that.

1129
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 16: That cannot happen.

1130
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 17: Okay, and then too many men on the field against

1131
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 17: the Broncos. That's ridiculous. And then let's go to the

1132
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 17: playoff game against the Chiefs again, running a fake punt

1133
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 17: to Tomorra Hamlin. When you've got the when you've got

1134
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 17: Josh Allen, the best short you know, a quarterback in

1135
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 17: a short field situation to get a first down and

1136
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 17: you don't have your best player on the field for that,

1137
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 17: I mean, he has to take some responsibility. And my

1138
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 17: question to you both is, if you're gonna be critical

1139
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 17: of Sean McDermott, how many more at bets do you

1140
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 17: give them? And the outlier being, you know, how many

1141
00:59:55,960 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 17: times are you gonna let the door the offensive coordinator

1142
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 17: or revolve for Josh Allen. If a guy like Brian Dable,

1143
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 17: who Josh Allen is best years under, becomes available because

1144
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 17: I did a giant stink, you know, how do you

1145
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 17: say no? And a digress? You know, if the team

1146
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 17: doesn't play off the power or Joe Brady he lights

1147
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 17: it up this year under Joe Brady. I mean, and

1148
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 17: I'll welcome McDermott back. This isn't you know, we're you know,

1149
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 17: we're not gonna you know, go crazy you know on

1150
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 17: the guy's I love him. He's been great for the community.

1151
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 17: Like I said, where where do you draw the line?

1152
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 16: I'm gona to listen.

1153
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 17: Thanks guys.

1154
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good point, and you're right. I mean,

1155
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: that's what you sign up for as a head coach

1156
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: when you have a game like the thirteen second game

1157
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: where the too many men against Denver for the missed

1158
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: field goal that came back and then it was a

1159
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: made field goal after that for the you know, call

1160
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: him a fake punt in the in the playoff game.

1161
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: Go down the list. That's what a head coach does.

1162
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 2: It's his responsible in fairness to fake punts on fourth

1163
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 2: and five. It wasn't a fourth and two. It wasn't

1164
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: even a fourth and three. It's a fourth in five.

1165
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 2: You bring your punt unit out, you're hoping the other

1166
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 2: team's thinking punt all the way here because it's fourth

1167
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: and five. The element of surprise exists because you have

1168
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: your kicking unit out there on a fourth and five.

1169
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 2: You put Josh Allen out there on a fourth and five,

1170
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 2: they're playing it a whole lot differento of.

1171
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: The gaps we've mentioned, we're on special teams. The too

1172
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: many men and and the fake punt. Neither one of

1173
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: them got done.

1174
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 2: And you could argue, even here are eighteen seconds that

1175
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 2: the kickoff shouldn't have gone through the end zone either.

1176
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's that. There's that as well. So but

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01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: that's that's all on Sean. It's his responsibility. I'm not

1178
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not. And he took it, yes, and

1179
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: he took it, and he didn't take the bullets for guy.

1180
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: You know, like you know Matt Smiley standing, there's a

1181
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: special teams guy and you know he's he's got a

1182
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: field the guy.

1183
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 2: Before them who coached in the thirteen seconds game.

1184
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, there guy. You know, Yes, the coaches and

1185
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: believe me, they don't sit there and saying, ah, we

1186
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: need better players. They're thinking we should coach our guys

1187
01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: up better. The even the twelve men on the field.

1188
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, the last thing. It is inexcusable,

1189
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: it is, But the last thing you want your head

1190
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: coach to is counting guys on the field. You got

1191
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: like nine thousand guys on your roster and you got

1192
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: veteran players who should There is no excuse for that,

1193
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: and it's the head coach is going to take the

1194
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: bullets for it. But good grief, you know. So all

1195
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: of that, all of that, and and and a lot

1196
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: of fans will they don't want to hear about you know,

1197
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: they don't want to hear about the player who shouldn't

1198
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: have been on the field, or the look the bad

1199
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: play that they made after you call the player whatever.

1200
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 2: We're not saying any coach in this league should be

1201
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 2: free of criticism.

1202
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

1203
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 2: I mean, when criticism is warranted, you levy it, and

1204
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 2: that's fine, but don't throw the baby out with the

1205
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 2: bathwater here. I think the positives have grossly outweighed the

1206
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 2: negatives here, and people tend to dwell on the negatives

1207
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 2: and at it overshadow all the positives that have happened

1208
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 2: to you. And if you're one of those fans that

1209
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 2: have just just jumped on the bandwagon in the last

1210
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 2: two or three years, you don't understand. You don't because

1211
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 2: you weren't here for the seventeen years we were wandering

1212
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 2: in the darkness. Okay, And maybe that doesn't mean anything

1213
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 2: to you, but it does to me. Does to me.

1214
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, and you can call me somebody that settles

1215
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 2: and doesn't. I mean, look, I want to see this

1216
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 2: franchise win a Super Bowl as much as the next person.

1217
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 2: But because we haven't got there, that doesn't mean I'm

1218
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 2: I'm folding tents on this current regime. You've gotta be

1219
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 2: kidding me. It's the best regime they've had since leaving Pollion.

1220
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, look at the results alone, for sure, results alone.

1221
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: And I'll say this too. There here's the thing too,

1222
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: what you can say about this year. And because this

1223
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: whole conversation came about when they said, hey, who's on

1224
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: the hot seat and some guy wrote an article and

1225
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: put Sean on the second list behind Salah in New York. Yeah,

1226
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: I don't know who that guy was. I think that's yeah,

1227
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: John m Sean McDermott's not going anywhere. But the reason

1228
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: though that you do have those conversations this this is

1229
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: a different kind of team than we've seen Sean McDermott

1230
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 1: have to go through since twenty seventeen his first year.

1231
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: A lot of new faces and the only thing that's

1232
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: different about this team than the one he took over

1233
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen is the quarterback. And also there's no

1234
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: there's no but no really good players in this building

1235
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: where Sean mcdermot's going. You know what, guy's great player, Yeah,

1236
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: get rid of him. We do not want that guy.

1237
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: And there was a couple of guys on that team

1238
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: that that happened to. These guys are all McDermott and

1239
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: being guys, so there's really none of that trim and

1240
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: off of those guys that you see. For those of

1241
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: you who remembered in twenty seventeen, just before the start

1242
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 1: of the regular season about where we're at now, they

1243
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: made it. Yeah, almost exactly where we're at now. They

1244
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: made a trade for two players. They traded a corner

1245
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: for a corner with Philly and they also somebody and

1246
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: I can't remember the second one who it was. Two

1247
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: really good players left and they got a player for

1248
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: player and people were thinking, and they were accused outright

1249
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: by local media and national media like of tanking. Well,

1250
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: that's the first time that team went to the playoffs

1251
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 1: in seventeen years. Not only did they not tank, they

1252
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: had their best season result wise in seventeen years. So

1253
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: McDermott knows how to put it together. That's what you're

1254
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 1: kind of leaning on this year. You're leaning on something

1255
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: that has been proven to be your strength. So that's

1256
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: why I have a lot of optimism about the defensive

1257
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: side of the ball with all the turnover and that's

1258
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: why this when you have this conversation about where the

1259
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: Bills are and how much pressure Shawn's under it because

1260
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: it falls to him now to put this together with

1261
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: these new faces. But I've seen them do it, and

1262
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: I've seen him do it really, really well. So I'm

1263
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: let's go, man, I'm I'm kind of I'm ready to,

1264
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: you know, kind of strap on here with this team

1265
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: and see what they do, because you know, this could

1266
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: be with with the younger players, the more athletic players

1267
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: they've got in the secondary, and even maybe on the

1268
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: defensive line, with Solomon and Kingsley Jonathan on the edges. Man,

1269
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: I really like it. So that's where this conversation is

1270
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: with Sean. I get it. There's there's always gonna be

1271
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: people out there that you know, I mean, even the

1272
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,439
Speaker 1: only time you don't hear him is when your team

1273
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: and your guy wins the Super Bowl. If the Bills

1274
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: go to and win the Super Bowl, or go to

1275
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and then like lose the Super Bowl

1276
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: on some fluke, bad bounce, there'll still be people calling

1277
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: for Sean mcdermot's head. That's just what you sign up

1278
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 1: for as a head coach. Now, Marv went through it

1279
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: four straight years of the Super Bowl people were like,

1280
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: you know, like to this day, you know we'll talk

1281
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: like that. So yeah, that's what you sign up for,

1282
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: and you know we're here for the conversation.

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Speaker 2: I guess let's get back to the phones and to

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Speaker 2: Mark in West Seneca. What do you got for this Markhi, guys,

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Speaker 2: I frankly, just a lot of this conversation has been

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Speaker 2: very frustrating for me.

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Speaker 18: This criticism I think is absolutely ridiculous. Brown. You hit

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Speaker 18: it on ahead a minute ago. You guys have said

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Speaker 18: so many different things that I just agree with when

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Speaker 18: you said this is the best Buffalo Bills regime since

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Speaker 18: Napoleon leave our my lev years, absolutely one hundred percent.

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Speaker 18: And I'm not going to I don't mean to sound

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Speaker 18: like a raw rob rob blind. The Bills are wonderful

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01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 18: all the time kind of guy. I try to think

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Speaker 18: of this stuff as common sense. Lifelong sports fan. I

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Speaker 18: played different sports. I coached. Here's a news flash for

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Speaker 18: a lot of fans. Okay, I coached hockey for thirty years.

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Speaker 18: Players don't always do what coaches tell them to do.

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Speaker 18: And as frustrated as I was with the Denver game

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Speaker 18: last year and was all over Matt Smiley what Steve

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Speaker 18: just said. Oh my goodness, you have veteran guys. Why

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Speaker 18: does Matt Smiley have to stand on a sideline and

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Speaker 18: count and make sure we've got eleven guys and not

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Speaker 18: twelve on the field. Okay, that's professional football players responsibility.

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Speaker 18: He's got other things going through his mind, just like

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Speaker 18: the head coach does. So let's go down our You

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Speaker 18: know we've heard Brandon Bean. Why hasn't he given us

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Speaker 18: better players? Why don't we coach better? Okay, Let's look

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Speaker 18: since Brandon Bean has been here, out of the six

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Speaker 18: seven years, he has consistently put a top five roster

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Speaker 18: in the whole league on the field. Several of those years,

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Speaker 18: we were expected to win the Super Bowl. Okay. Let's

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Speaker 18: look at our offense. Ye're in and year out. We're

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Speaker 18: one of those number one, number two, number three scoring offense.

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Speaker 18: As many mistakes as we point to, nobody scores more

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Speaker 18: than we do. Okay. Look at our defense. Every year

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Speaker 18: we're a top five defense. Okay, And we want to

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Speaker 18: turn around and say an organization that used to fight

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Speaker 18: for mediocrity wasn't in the playoffs for seventeen years. Okay,

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Speaker 18: and I'm sixty five years old, and I've been a

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Speaker 18: Bills fan since nineteen sixty seven, thirty five years season

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Speaker 18: ticket holder, and I sat in that same stadium they're

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Speaker 18: gonna knock down in a couple of years, when there

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Speaker 18: was eighteen thousand season tickets and there were seventeen thousand

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Speaker 18: people in the stands for a game on a Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 18: I remember the lows. I remember them. And let me

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Speaker 18: tell you something, fans, these two guys who are running

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Speaker 18: our organization, You're not gonna find anybody better, because putting

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Speaker 18: a roster together is the second hardest thing to do

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Speaker 18: in sports, being a general manager of an NFL football team.

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Speaker 18: The hardest thing in sports is being the quarterback. But

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Speaker 18: that is the most complex thing to do. He's got

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Speaker 18: so many constraints, both obvious to us and probably internally

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Speaker 18: from the owner and everything else within their organization itself

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Speaker 18: that he has to fight with and come to terms

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Speaker 18: with that we'll never know. All we know is that

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Speaker 18: we don't have a high profile wide receiver. Okay, let's

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Speaker 18: go find a guy and pay him thirty five million.

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Speaker 18: Bye bye Matt Mulono, Bye bye Ed Oliver or whoever

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01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 18: else are we going to lose because we're doing that. Okay,

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Speaker 18: So these criticisms I find absolutely ridiculous. That team has

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Speaker 18: given me more happiness and hope in the last six

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Speaker 18: years that I had for twenty five before those guys

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01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 18: got here. So I thank them, I will root for them,

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01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 18: and in my mind they've earned the benefit of the doubt.

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01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 18: No matter what decision they make, I'll watch it play

1347
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 18: out on the field. When I think criticism needs to be,

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01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 18: I will, but I will try to temper that. Thank

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Speaker 18: you guys for letting me round.

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Speaker 2: All right, Thanks Mark, appreciate the passion there, well said,

1351
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 2: did some of our work for us quite frankly. We

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Speaker 2: mentioned yesterday quickly as there was a trade on the

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Speaker 2: NFL market.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: We mentioned yesterday how the La Rams gave Ernest Jones,

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01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 2: their starring middle linebacker, permission to seek a trade, and

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Speaker 2: that trade has been consummated. The Tennessee Titans are acquiring

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Speaker 2: linebacker Ernest Jones, the fourth from the Rams. We don't

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Speaker 2: have trade terms yet, but I would imagine it's for

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Speaker 2: a draft choice of some kind, some kind of draft capital.

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Speaker 2: So the guy that led the Rams and tackles each

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Speaker 2: of the last two years, I looked at their depth chart.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't terribly impressed with what's behind him, but they're

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Speaker 2: obviously there every day and probably know something we don't.

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Speaker 2: But that's a guy that's running your defense. And now

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Speaker 2: he's in Tennessee, and Tennessee has very quietly accumulated some talent,

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Speaker 2: got lagarious need from the Chiefs in the offseason, among

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Speaker 2: other talent acquired over there. And now they acquire a

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Speaker 2: guy that led the Rams and tackles each of the

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Speaker 2: last two years and ran their defense. And Ernest Jones,

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Speaker 2: the fourth who's just twenty four years old, and the

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Speaker 2: reason he wanted out was he's in the last year

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Speaker 2: of his rookie deal and wanted a new after two

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Speaker 2: very productive seasons for the Rams, and the Rams said,

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Speaker 2: hit the bricks, go find a trade, and he did so,

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Speaker 2: So there you go. I just wanted to bring this

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Speaker 2: is pass that along to you, uh the athletics. Diana Rassini,

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Speaker 2: I believe had that first.

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Speaker 1: Got to be very It's really hectic, and you got

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Speaker 1: to think too because teams, if you think about it,

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01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 1: even bills fans can relate to this because you see

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Speaker 1: it on social like why don't you call make a

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01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 1: call about this guy you know or that guy they

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01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 1: do make call, you never hear about it, and you

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01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 1: don't like to talk about it because if if the

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Speaker 1: deal doesn't happen, the players involved in that deal feel

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Speaker 1: unwanted and get bitter about the team they're playing on,

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Speaker 1: and you can't have that as a team. Right. So,

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Speaker 1: for instance, somebody called about you know, uh, Ray Davis,

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Speaker 1: and the Bills are just pick up the phone, say

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Speaker 1: what's up. Hey, we're trying to trade for Ray Davis

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Speaker 1: And they say, well, we don't really, we don't want

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Speaker 1: to trade him, and say we'll give you a second

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Speaker 1: four or we'll give you a fifth for him, and

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Speaker 1: I say, no, I'm not taking fifth for him. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna make our team we want, we want him, and

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Speaker 1: blah bla la, we'll give you a fifth in this

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Speaker 1: guy for him. Well then the word gets and they

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Speaker 1: say no, we're gonna keep him. Thanks, the phone gets

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Speaker 1: hung up. Well, then if word gets out about that

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Speaker 1: Ray Davis and the guy they we're gonna trade him

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Speaker 1: for have every reason to be bitter for being on

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Speaker 1: the trade block. Whether the Bills wanted to trade him

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Speaker 1: or initiated the call or not so, it's yeah, the phone,

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Speaker 1: this hectic thing now this Ernest or yeah, Ernest Jones,

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Speaker 1: the fourth to the Titans. There's the phone lines are

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01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 1: burning up right now all over the league for deals

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Speaker 1: just like this one, for deals just like this one

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Speaker 1: under the Brandon Bean regime. Over the last five or

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Speaker 1: six years, I've only just now come to the realization

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Speaker 1: that so many conversations take place that we never hear about.

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Speaker 1: It's mind boggling. Oh yeah, it's mind bog.

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Speaker 2: Would say, seven eighths of the calls that are made

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Speaker 2: in the NFL are on things that don't happen.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's right, seven eighths. That's right because and you know,

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Speaker 1: they never.

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Speaker 2: Want arbitrary for the reason, but I think it's probably.

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Speaker 1: And the and the reason is just what I said.

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01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 1: They don't want everybody. They don't want to have to

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Speaker 1: deal with the conversation that happens afterward, not only that

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01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 1: it didn't happen. Why didn't it happen? And why did you?

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01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 1: Why did some team or why did somebody propose it?

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01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: What's the deal? It's all that stuff opens up a

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01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: can of for us content for everybody else. Love it.

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01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 1: It's headache it's headache city. They don't want anybody know

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Speaker 1: they've been considering it.

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Speaker 2: We don't have to consummate the deal, we just we

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Speaker 2: can you imagine.

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Speaker 1: Think about it now, just like hyperboleze for a minute.

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Speaker 1: So let's just think. Say the New England Patriots and Saysten,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna stink. We're gonna stink for a few more years.

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01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: But we're gonna call the Bills and we will offer

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Speaker 1: five first rounders and and this player and this player

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Speaker 1: and this player for Josh Allen, right, and the Bills

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01:14:56,439 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 1: say no, no, We're gonna say no. Well, well you

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Speaker 1: don't want that getting out for obvious reading. I mean,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I'd be that. We would talk about

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01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 1: nothing else for weeks months. Yeah, I mean good, every

1439
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 1: time Josh Allen played the Patriots from then on, it

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01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 1: would be it is the top, remember when that's right?

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01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 1: So you know you can't let it out of the bag.

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01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 1: It's but I'm I've been astonished at the whispers and

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01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 1: they said yeah, well and they they find out it

1444
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 1: may not be a it's just new quest. Okay, what

1445
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 1: are you looking for? What?

1446
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 2: What about exploratory?

1447
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 1: And like this Ernest Jones okay, Brandon Bean picks up

1448
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: the phone call here, what about it? What's up?

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01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 2: You know? Break time for us here when we get

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01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 2: back more of your phone calls. Banke and Batavia is

1451
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,719
Speaker 2: going to lead us off, but I got open lines

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01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 2: for you at eight oh three oh five fifty one

1453
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 2: eighty eight five fifty two five fifty the number to

1454
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 2: get on board. What's your ideal scenario for the bills?

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Speaker 2: Fifty three man roster here on cutdown Day on One

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Speaker 2: Bill's presented by a lot of health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right here we are One Bill's live on cutdown

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01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 2: Day here on Tuesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you

1459
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 2: and taking your phone calls. Is we've been pretty busy

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Speaker 2: all day long, and we're going to continue on the

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Speaker 2: phone lines at eight oh three oh five point fifty

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Speaker 2: one eight eight eighty five fifty two fifty and as

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Speaker 2: promised with Mike and Batavia next, what's up.

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Speaker 5: Mike, Hey, good afternoon guys. Thanks a lot for taking

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01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 5: my call. A couple of the previous callers and a

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Speaker 5: couple of comments you made wandered into the area that

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Speaker 5: I wanted to talk about. But your question about the

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Speaker 5: ideal scenario for the fifty three man roster. I have

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Speaker 5: kind of a multifaceted answer to that, and it involves

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Speaker 5: a lot of things you've been talking about. Number one,

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Speaker 5: I really enjoyed the comments you've just made about the

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Speaker 5: number of calls that go on behind the scenes, because

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Speaker 5: that it's really cool to think about, and it's germane

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Speaker 5: to the to my point of my ideal scenario is

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01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 5: that somehow they strengthen the fifty three roster, whether it's

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01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 5: with coutts, whether it's with another trade or something else.

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Speaker 5: And then the areas I have concerned. Up until just

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01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 5: a few minutes ago, not a lot of people have

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01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 5: been talking about special teams. I honestly thought with the

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Speaker 5: way that we ended last year, there'd be more change.

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01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 5: I thought maybe there'd be a coaching change. I thought

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01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,639
Speaker 5: we might see some new competition for the two kickers,

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01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 5: you know, I think there's room for improvement across the board,

1484
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 5: someone that is coaching them up. You're right some of

1485
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 5: these things, you know, but we I think you could

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01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 5: argue that we lost at least two games on special

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01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 5: teams last year, and sometimes you lose them on a

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01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 5: direct play and sometimes it's just indirect. It's the cumulative

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01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 5: effect of a field position and things like that, so

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01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 5: special teams that are concerned, and Steve correct me if

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Speaker 5: I'm wrong here, But I think I remember Bill Polly

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Speaker 5: in common, so, circling to your Levy Pollion era, I

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Speaker 5: think at one time Bill pollyon my have said, and

1494
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 5: it might have been in a different context, that your

1495
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 5: backup quarterback is your second most important person. And I

1496
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:08,680
Speaker 5: understand that if we lose Josh, we're not going to

1497
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 5: run the gauntlet of all the playoffs in the super

1498
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,799
Speaker 5: Bowl with a backup. But I agree with the concept

1499
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 5: that if he goes down for four to six games,

1500
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 5: do you have somebody that can run your system and

1501
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,879
Speaker 5: can win some games? And I think that Joe Flacco,

1502
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 5: I think that Baker Mayfield. I think that Cooper Rush

1503
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,839
Speaker 5: and even Mike White prove that that can be done.

1504
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 5: And I don't know if we have that guy. And

1505
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 5: so there's another position in the fifty three man roster

1506
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 5: if we have an opportunity to upgrade that position. Absolutely

1507
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 5: Other than that, it's all the places we're talking about

1508
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 5: where we've got injuries, you know, do you get an

1509
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 5: opportunity with the safety. Do you get an opportunity with

1510
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 5: a linebacker, you get an opportunity with the receiver. So

1511
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 5: I would say that I am concerned about the same

1512
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 5: areas that we all are. I mean, I love the

1513
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 5: coaching staff and the character and the leadership, you know,

1514
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 5: and Josh Allen and everything else. We got to give

1515
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 5: him the benefit of the doubt, for sure, But that

1516
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 5: would be my comment is that I think twenty four

1517
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 5: to seven, they're in the business of trying to improve

1518
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 5: the team. I hope we get the opportunity. They don't

1519
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:14,600
Speaker 5: control who they have access to. But I like the

1520
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 5: idea that I think that you guys are saying. They're

1521
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 5: always looking for it, and I would love to see

1522
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 5: us improve in the areas I mentioned, but I think

1523
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 5: the special team area might even go as high as

1524
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 5: a coaching Thanks again, you guys are always great, and

1525
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 5: I'll hang up and listen to your comments.

1526
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 1: Right, that's a really good call, really good call, Mike. Yeah,

1527
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot in it, and you're right. The number

1528
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: of calls around to everybody, certainly, and I'll say this too,

1529
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:41,640
Speaker 1: with very few exceptions, I think everybody is of the

1530
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 1: mind that you know, what if there's guys out there

1531
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 1: that get us better. You got to get them, no

1532
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 1: matter what it means, no matter what it means, you

1533
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 1: got to go get them. And I think that's what

1534
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean does. In fact, you know, when we have

1535
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 1: him on he is, we go into great detail about

1536
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 1: what his pro personnel guys go through to find those guys.

1537
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,879
Speaker 1: You know, they other guy on the Bill's staff. Brandon's

1538
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 1: got guys who act as though they are the general

1539
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 1: manager of the other team. Right, So they go in

1540
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 1: there and they think, if I was this guy, I'd

1541
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 1: be doing this and this and that and the other.

1542
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 1: And then talks to Brand and he says, this guy

1543
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 1: might be of you know that kind of thing. And

1544
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 1: they evaluate those players high and low, I mean, scrutinize them,

1545
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 1: so they make calls on players that aren't even on

1546
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 1: our radar. That's obviously right. So and special teams, you're right.

1547
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 1: One of the problems that good the ups and downs

1548
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: with special teams are that if you do something great,

1549
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:41,759
Speaker 1: sometimes it's because they the other team makes a mistake.

1550
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 1: And if if something bad happens to you, it's on

1551
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 1: full display. You can't get around it. There is no

1552
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 1: there's no, you know, well we should have called a

1553
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 1: different play or it's it's you stink, you know. And

1554
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 1: Matt Smiley is that guy. He's got to live with

1555
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 1: that kind of Atmosphe you're right, and I'm the thing

1556
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 1: about Bill polling in the backup quarterback and being the

1557
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: most second most important guy on the team, I get it.

1558
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 1: And we had a great one in Frank Reich during

1559
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: some of the years I was with the Bills, and

1560
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 1: he subsequently went and started the Panthers franchise and threw

1561
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 1: the first touchdown in their history. But here's the thing.

1562
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 1: When you're at that point where you're gonna make a

1563
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: move for the Super Bowl, your roster is good enough

1564
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 1: to overcome a lesser quarterback. Now, certainly you want the

1565
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 1: best quarterback you can get, and I'm all about that.

1566
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 1: And sometimes if your schedule falls the right way, if

1567
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 1: your season falls the right way, if your quarterback isn't

1568
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: out forever, then your backup quarterback can come in and

1569
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 1: salvage the season, no question about it. We've seen it happen.

1570
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: Frank did it for a He won a couple of

1571
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:53,759
Speaker 1: playoff games to get us to a super Bowl. Jeff

1572
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 1: Hostetler beat us in a super Bowl after we're the

1573
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 1: guys responsible for putting him in the game when Phil

1574
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 1: Simms went down in the week twelve or thirteen game.

1575
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 1: So it does happen. But let's face it, it takes

1576
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 1: a roster to get to the Super Bowl and win it.

1577
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 1: And that's what it takes for a good quarterback, a

1578
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 1: backup quarterback to come in and be successful as well.

1579
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have a team like last year. You

1580
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,759
Speaker 1: could have had Josh go and play for New England

1581
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 1: and you're not going to get to the playoffs. Their

1582
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 1: roster just wasn't there. But a team like Buffalo, yeah,

1583
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 1: you should be able to weather a storm. If Josh

1584
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 1: is out for a couple of weeks or a month,

1585
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 1: you should be able to weather the storm. The roster

1586
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 1: around him, whoever it is, will be good enough for

1587
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 1: him to be able to win the game. If all

1588
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 1: that other stuff is in place, and if there's a

1589
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: better quarterback out there, get him. I'm all about it.

1590
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 1: I'm just not putting that ahead of other things that

1591
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 1: we have. If Josh leaves for the season in Week four,

1592
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 1: you know, let's face it, you know we're up. We're

1593
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 1: up a Creek and.

1594
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,600
Speaker 2: Your special teams concerns are valid because a lot of

1595
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 2: it is unknown. You lost a lot of veterans on

1596
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 2: that unit. Tyler Matakaevich, Tyrell Dodson, Saran Neil. I mean,

1597
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 2: those are three stalwarts of the Special teams unit over

1598
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 2: the last several years and they're all gone and those

1599
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 2: voids have to be replaced. So that's that. And then

1600
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 2: on top of that, you know you have a kicker

1601
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,759
Speaker 2: in Tyler Bass who right now is trying to rediscover

1602
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 2: his mojo and rebuild his confidence because he's been five

1603
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 2: or six in the preseason games, but sixteen to twenty

1604
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 2: five in training camp and practice. That's not going to

1605
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 2: get it done. And that's got to get fixed. And

1606
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 2: there's time. You got two weeks before the opener get

1607
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 2: it fixed, knowing you're going to probably be in a

1608
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:48,839
Speaker 2: lot more close games.

1609
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 1: I said that. I said it two. Also, t Bass

1610
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 1: needs to get back to where he was as a rookie.

1611
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 1: Remember he had a single EyeBlack counter he was.

1612
01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 2: He had it like an attitude and kicked everything as

1613
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 2: hard he was trying to finesse. So that's not his way.

1614
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in there, and I think it's his problems

1615
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:08,959
Speaker 1: are more between the years than they are anything physical.

1616
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: If indeed he perceives there is a problem.

1617
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:14,839
Speaker 2: There is a report out there that Ken I Lovely,

1618
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:19,839
Speaker 2: the undrafted rookie corner and Kingsley Jonathan have been released

1619
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 2: by the Bills. That Jonathan won is a bit of

1620
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 2: a surprise there. I thought he had a really good preseason.

1621
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 2: He is not going to be clear in waivers in

1622
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 2: my estimation, but I think that is a signal that

1623
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 2: Javon Solomon has made the roster. I don't know that,

1624
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 2: but that's just my this projection.

1625
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's still some more moves to be made, but yeah,

1626
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good guess.

1627
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 2: I think let's go to Bruce and Ken Mooren XT

1628
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 2: what's up, Bruce.

1629
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 11: Hi, Chris and Steve. I think it was Philip that

1630
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 11: called before asking who didn't make the fifty three man

1631
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 11: roster that became a good player. In nineteen eighty two

1632
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 11: of the Bills drafted Gary Anderson at a Syracuse to

1633
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 11: be their placekicker, and if I remember correctly, he had

1634
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 11: five attempts during the exhibition season and missed all five,

1635
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 11: and the Bills, obviously I would have released him too,

1636
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 11: and goes on to score over two thousand points. So

1637
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 11: but my other point was for the callers that don't

1638
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 11: think Sean should be on a short lease. Other than

1639
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 11: Vince Lombardi, I don't know how many other coaches, new

1640
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:31,480
Speaker 11: coaches who had never been a head coach before inherited

1641
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 11: a team that hadn't been to the playoffs in more

1642
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 11: than a decade and has a comparable or better one

1643
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 11: lost record than Sean has. I mean, Vince tom Landry

1644
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 11: coached Dallas for twenty nine years, he only won two

1645
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 11: Super Bowls. When people were people calling into Dallas radio

1646
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 11: stations saying he should be fired probably.

1647
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, radio back then, that's the way it is. You

1648
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 1: just do. I mean, here's the thing. Don't forget Philadelphia

1649
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 1: fired Doug Peterson after he won their first Super Bowl.

1650
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:10,799
Speaker 1: A year later, he was gone. So it the tide

1651
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 1: turns fast and some and as some towns are different

1652
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 1: than others, and some ownership groups are different than others.

1653
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 1: But it's it's and I said it at the time, Yeah,

1654
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 1: there's always going to be criticism for your head coach.

1655
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 1: That's part of the job description. You're going to take

1656
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 1: the slings and arrow of people who just want to

1657
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 1: win the super Bowl and nothing else will do, and

1658
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 1: if you don't, you're out a little bit like that,

1659
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:38,879
Speaker 1: and some people just get tired or they get resigned

1660
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 1: to the fact that they think, because you didn't win

1661
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 1: the super Bowl again this year, you will never win

1662
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 1: the super Bowl ever in your life, no matter what happens.

1663
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: You know, you just got to live with the You

1664
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:53,879
Speaker 1: gotta let them vent. Everybody has bad days, and everybody

1665
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 1: has their own opinions about what they see, and that's

1666
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, that's part of what that's what our job

1667
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 1: is is sports radio. We're here for you, you know.

1668
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 2: Break time for us here. We'll squeeze Jim and Rochester

1669
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 2: in when we get back. In our final segment here

1670
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, presented by Colid of Health, it's

1671
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here on One Bill's Live,

1672
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, NFL Network's Tom Pella Sero reporting

1673
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 2: that the Bills are waving Frank Gore Junior. That was

1674
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 2: to be somewhat expected. I do think he is gonna

1675
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 2: have a shot on the practice squad. We'll find out

1676
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 2: in a couple of days. Time. Let's squeeze Jim and

1677
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 2: Rochester in here at the end of the show. What's

1678
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 2: up Jim?

1679
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 19: Hi, guys, But one thing I had to call whatever

1680
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 19: anybody calls about the coach and grab what people are

1681
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 19: not understanding it. You're not guaranteed to get a better

1682
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 19: coach or better results.

1683
01:27:58,280 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 13: If to fire the.

1684
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 19: Coach you have, it's not guaranteed that you're going to

1685
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 19: be better.

1686
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 2: Right.

1687
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:07,680
Speaker 19: Look at from Night from Thanksgiving U twenty one when

1688
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 19: Tray got hurt. He's lost four four, four or five

1689
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 19: formidable all pros with Tate one for a year, high

1690
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 19: for the year in twenty two and twenty three, and

1691
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 19: Trey and Milano, and he's overcome all of it. Get

1692
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:24,639
Speaker 19: off his back.

1693
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 2: Thank you all right, thank you, Jim. Appreciate that, And

1694
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 2: might as well throw in there you didn't have Taylor

1695
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 2: Rap or Torel Bernard for the Kansas City playoff game.

1696
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 2: I'll say then, Raeuel Douglas running around on one leg.

1697
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 1: Most people are not in the camp that McDermott is.

1698
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:41,799
Speaker 2: It's a vocal minority.

1699
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 1: Yes, I believe it is up. So I'm yeah, I

1700
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 1: don't think you need to get you up another everybody

1701
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 1: has their opinion, and there's always going to be critics,

1702
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 1: so you know, you gotta give them a minute to

1703
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 1: vent and then and move on. I guess, but I'm

1704
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 1: I think that they're We're gonna find out here in

1705
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 1: the next hour or so exactly what the fifty three

1706
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 1: is gonna look like, and we'll see the practice squad

1707
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 1: take shape in the twenty four to forty eight hours

1708
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 1: after that, and it's gonna be a lot of fun.

1709
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:12,719
Speaker 1: Then we're gonna get start thinking about Arizona.

1710
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:16,919
Speaker 2: Yeah. Details on the Ernest Jones trade from the Rams

1711
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 2: to the Titans. Titans receive Ernest Jones, the middle the

1712
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:24,759
Speaker 2: inside linebacker, and a sixth round pick in twenty twenty six.

1713
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 2: The Rams will get a twenty twenty six to fifth

1714
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 2: rounder in return. Pretty good acquisition by the Titans, who

1715
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 2: have assembled a sneaky good roster that is not a

1716
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:39,680
Speaker 2: pushover game here on October twentieth, in Week seven, I

1717
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:42,639
Speaker 2: want to say they've got a nice roster. Top three

1718
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 2: receivers DeAndre Hopkins, Calvin Ridley, Tyler Boyd not bad. Yeah,

1719
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 2: and they also have Tony Pollard in the backfield. Pretty good.

1720
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:52,880
Speaker 1: Not an easy place to win.

1721
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 2: That's it. For us, we'll see you tomorrow. With reaction

1722
01:29:55,640 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 2: to the roster at one two