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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang on Today show the Good, the Bad,

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Speaker 1: and the Ugly from Friday's preseason game against the Chiefs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there was a little bit of everything. We'll get into

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Speaker 1: it all, but hey, let's not bury the lead. J J.

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Speaker 1: Watt is back on the practice field. It's Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: Episode four fifty six, and it starts now. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two with Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals

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Speaker 1: dot Com, Slash Podcasts. Going for Hopkins one hand to

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Speaker 1: catch in a touchdown DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolou and

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Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki. It's just a practice and it's just position drills.

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Speaker 1: At least that's all that is open to the media here.

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Speaker 1: But as we speak and J. J. Watt is practicing

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Speaker 1: his first training camp practice. Remember you had a hamstring

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Speaker 1: issue pop up during the run test back on July

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Speaker 1: twenty seventh, almost four weeks later. What is back? And

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Speaker 1: this was the plan along? You know, you didn't know

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Speaker 1: when he talked about a hamstring or was it a strain,

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Speaker 1: And you know, obviously you don't have to have an

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Speaker 1: injury report. But I always thinking that Cardinals break camp

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Speaker 1: on the twenty six. They have a preseason game coming

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Speaker 1: up on Saturday against the Saints, which he will not play,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure the majority of the starters will not play,

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Speaker 1: and then you're back to you kind of the routine.

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Speaker 1: But I like the fact that he's going to do it.

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Speaker 1: He's on the field today, and to me, it's the

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Speaker 1: fact that he's been on the field during practice. He's

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Speaker 1: been in the meetings, but now he can participate in

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Speaker 1: drills and help these guys out, because when you're in

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Speaker 1: know he's put his arm around some of these young

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Speaker 1: guys Lucky Foe to Richard Lauren, Zach Allen. So just

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Speaker 1: his presence on the practice field, I think we're going

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Speaker 1: to see some energy from what we saw earlier today.

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Speaker 1: He always has had an impact with his voice. But

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Speaker 1: to your point, now that you're going through drills, you're

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Speaker 1: going through it with your teammates as opposed to standing

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Speaker 1: and watching and speaking. Now you can go through it

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Speaker 1: and then lead by example and really get in there

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Speaker 1: and show these young players what has been taught to

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Speaker 1: them and where you can do some tweaks and really

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Speaker 1: getting the weeds, so to speak. And again to your point,

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Speaker 1: he's not going to play this week at New Orleans,

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Speaker 1: but if you can ramp up and certainly get your

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Speaker 1: feet wet, get the rust off if there is any

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Speaker 1: rust with the JJ watt, and then make sure you're

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Speaker 1: completely one hundred percent for week one. Yeah, and because

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Speaker 1: of only three preseason games this year, the Cardinals basically

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Speaker 1: will have a buy after the third preseason game coming

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Speaker 1: up on Saturday afternoon at five o'clock, so they'll have

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Speaker 1: a buy and then you know, clearly you don't want

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Speaker 1: to give the game plan too early. I'm sure the

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Speaker 1: staff has already looked at every single opponent and then

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Speaker 1: you go back to what they're not doing in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: so you don't have to focus on that. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just think that this was the plan all along.

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Speaker 1: And you know, give him credit because it probably wasn't

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Speaker 1: you know, the last couple of preseason games, but he

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Speaker 1: broke his own news and that's not the only news

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Speaker 1: today because you know, even though it was more of

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Speaker 1: a formality for J. J. Watt, Dennis Gardeck, I mean

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Speaker 1: he's one hundred and ninety three days removed from surgery. Now,

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Speaker 1: to me, if I look at this in a handicap

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Speaker 1: he would have missed the first six weeks. You know,

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Speaker 1: the fact that he's ahead of schedule, and we know

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Speaker 1: give him a little flexibility. Let's say he doesn't play

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Speaker 1: You know. So, I don't know where we're all anticipating.

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Speaker 1: which Kingsbury has been pretty clear about whenever he has

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Speaker 1: asked about Dennis Gardeck. And once again the team will

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Speaker 1: rehab running around stretching. Now let's see how you do

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Speaker 1: see how that knee response. I'm sure he's done forward backwards,

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Speaker 1: side to side, the quick cut, the quip movement. But

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Speaker 1: now let's see what happens when there's an object in

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Speaker 1: Certainly on special teams, but it is a position that

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Speaker 1: beneficiary to all of this has been Victor D. Mukajee,

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Speaker 1: who I think has certainly turned some heads as a

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Speaker 1: ford mukage and he played fifty eight out of seventy

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Speaker 1: the way I look at it, Craig is you start

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Speaker 1: about the versatility of an Isaiah Simmons, who can also

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Speaker 1: On Monday, Andy Isabella activated from the reserve COVID nineteen list,

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Speaker 1: what's at stake for Isabella. He called this a big

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Speaker 1: on Saturday, just in order to get the reps and

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Speaker 1: Keyshawn Johnson and when you're not a starter. But I

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Speaker 1: still feel comfortable that Andy Isabelle is a guy that

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Speaker 1: receiver on this roster. The three moves. In addition to Watt,

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Speaker 1: as we speak here on August twenty three, And according

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Speaker 1: to Kingsbury, we could see some guys we haven't seen

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Speaker 1: in a few different weeks, and that would be Justin

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Speaker 1: Pugh is still on the shelf correct, he remains on

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Speaker 1: Murray and Winters on the yielding. Can they play themselves

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Speaker 1: comfortable with their top eight or nine lineman. Then you know,

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Speaker 1: we know Max Garcia as your backup guard or center.

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Speaker 1: Clearly we'll back up Rodney Hudson, and then if Murray

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Speaker 1: and they've talked about that second unit. Clearly, there's a

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Speaker 1: But they feel comfortable with their top eight or nine

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Speaker 1: COVID and everything else. But I think the arrow's pointing

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Speaker 1: be healthy going in to week one. An update Bird

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Speaker 1: Episode number five, titled Take the Lead, debuts August twenty

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Speaker 1: you get an extra ten fifteen yards tacked onto the

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Speaker 1: kick and you're further back as far as where the

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Speaker 1: offense begins. But he ran up to the ball, caught

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Speaker 1: it with the fair catch signal, and that was something

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury noted that Jeff Rogers, the special teams coordinator and

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Speaker 1: assistant head coach, noted as well and was impressed with.

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Speaker 1: So I do think it bodes well for Ron del

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Speaker 1: Moore as dynamic as we all expect him to be

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Speaker 1: in the passing game. I am bullish on what he

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Speaker 1: is going to be able to do as far as

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Speaker 1: returning kickoffs and or returning punts this season. Yeah, and listen,

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Speaker 1: you and I were, I think we see stuff and

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Speaker 1: then we look at it a little bit different. You were, Adam,

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Speaker 1: and then you wanted to see him out there, and

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Speaker 1: I was trying to relate to the listeners, is that

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Speaker 1: he is retrieving punts in practice. But you were right on,

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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking they already showed a little bit as

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Speaker 1: you pointed out in Week one with some of the

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Speaker 1: jet sweeps and possibly Gadget plays, but you just can't

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Speaker 1: go through the entire preseason went out him have another

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Speaker 1: team going breathing down his throat. So you were right,

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Speaker 1: but wait, what was that again? I said you were right?

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Speaker 1: Wait did you hear that bird? Gang? All right? Just

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Speaker 1: making sure never mind? No, I mean, like I said,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't like he wasn't. It's different in practice because

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Speaker 1: it's usually as a jugs machine and they do have

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Speaker 1: two punters. You don't want Andy Lee Punton all the time.

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Speaker 1: They got wins though now, so the ball is a

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Speaker 1: little bit different coming off the juggs machine. But it

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Speaker 1: was important for them to get him out there, and

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what you said. And we did see Io

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Speaker 1: Benjamin as well as far as kick return. So I

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Speaker 1: do think that the Cardinals know what they have and

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Speaker 1: Rondel more, Eno Benjamin and whether you know, Christian Kirk

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Speaker 1: on punt, maybe Andy Isabella. So they have options, and

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Speaker 1: I do think they feel better today than they did

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Speaker 1: maybe with you know, it's one thing to have an

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Speaker 1: idea on what to do. It's another thing to actually

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Speaker 1: execute that idea and come out of it on the

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Speaker 1: other and and say, you know what we were right,

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Speaker 1: Let's continue to go with it. And Darren Urban, our

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Speaker 1: colleague gas cliff on Monday, that is it possible that

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Speaker 1: you'd keep four running backs? And he said, yes, I could.

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Speaker 1: I do think you know, I think Jonathan Ward's still

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Speaker 1: ahead of Endol Benjamin. Jonathan Warden was a guy last

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Speaker 1: year that kind of cut his teeth on teams. Um,

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Speaker 1: we can sit here and say we don't know if

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Speaker 1: Connor and Edmunds is going to last all seventeen games.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you got to assume maybe fifteen sixteen we'd

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Speaker 1: sign up for right now. But eno Benjamin has done

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Speaker 1: everything he could possibly do. Um, you know he'll be.

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Speaker 1: He'll be if if an injury comes to that position.

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Speaker 1: And it wouldn't surprise me if they looked at the

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Speaker 1: waiver wire again to veteran on the practice squad just

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Speaker 1: to kind of get some insurance. But all four guys

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Speaker 1: have flashed. We just haven't seen a lot of Chase

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Speaker 1: Emmons and James Conner, and I think they're hiding that

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Speaker 1: on going into the season knowing what this offense means

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Speaker 1: when they can run the football. The other notes on

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Speaker 1: special teams. As I went back and rewatched the game,

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Speaker 1: Marco Wilson as a gunner is something to pay attention to.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he has the speed that a

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Speaker 1: Trench Sherfield had as far as a gunner, and when

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Speaker 1: I know, you know, if you're gonna race those two, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Marco Wilson is faster than trench Sherfield. But there is

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Speaker 1: a difference when you are trying to run downhill and

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Speaker 1: you've got two guys in your way and you have

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Speaker 1: to go outside as far as the sidelines are concerned,

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Speaker 1: and then take kind of a roundabout way to get downfield.

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Speaker 1: But Marco Wilson, number twenty is consistently, if not the

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Speaker 1: first guy, one of the first players down the field

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Speaker 1: as far as the coverage units are concerned. And I

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Speaker 1: do think, you know, we'll get into what he's done

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Speaker 1: as a defensive player, but I am impressed by what

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Speaker 1: Marco Wilson has been able to show here, not only

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Speaker 1: in practice but in games as a gunner, because I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's something he did a lot at Florida.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, I mean he flashed he you know,

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Speaker 1: I can tell in offseason workouts the front office and

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Speaker 1: the scouts were intrigue. Now people are gonna hear this,

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Speaker 1: and I go, okay, this is coming from the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals had a second round grade on him, got

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Speaker 1: him in the fourth round. People were freaking out. They

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Speaker 1: didn't get a corner and then they trade up. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna be active on game day and you know, right

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Speaker 1: now they could keep five corners. I was told that

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Speaker 1: Denard's still in the mix. They think he can play

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Speaker 1: a little safety. He's a guy that can play inside

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Speaker 1: and outside. And depending on how many safeties you keep

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Speaker 1: right now, probably five. When you look at Buddha, the

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Speaker 1: Thompson Twins, Banjo, and then Charles Washington, I know that

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Speaker 1: the ball was thrown to him. You've got to be

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Speaker 1: in the right place at right time. And then you

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Speaker 1: got Sean Williams and Wiggins. So the Cardinals could k

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Speaker 1: ten five at the safety position in five corners, and

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Speaker 1: then he would think Denard would be down because of

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Speaker 1: Wilson's activity on special teams. But again I think take

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Speaker 1: Owen's probably got an uphill decline to make the active

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Speaker 1: fifty three man roster the secondary position based off what

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Speaker 1: we saw and maybe what we didn't see Friday Nights

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Speaker 1: against the Chiefs because dark was Denard did not play,

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Speaker 1: Darryl Worley did not play, and in the safety position,

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Speaker 1: Deontay Thompson and James Wiggins played zero defensive snaps. They

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Speaker 1: got hurt at some point in that game, forcing Sean

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Speaker 1: Williams to play a lot of safety and some different

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Speaker 1: shuffling as far as some corners having to play a

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Speaker 1: little safety. So I don't know what this means moving forward,

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Speaker 1: but you look at the depth as far as the

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Speaker 1: names in there, specifically at safety veterans Chris ban Joe,

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Speaker 1: Charles Washington, Shawn Williams, veterans who we saw Banjo Presston

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Speaker 1: to duty last year I thought held himself very well

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Speaker 1: as a safety. Because of the injuries at that position.

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Speaker 1: Outside of Buddha Baker, I'm curious on what they do

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Speaker 1: because right now I look and there's seven players in

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Speaker 1: that safety room, three who are special teams beasts and

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Speaker 1: can also play safety, and that would be Banjo, Washington

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Speaker 1: and Williams. Yeah right now. I mean, if I had

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Speaker 1: a guess, you can try to slide Sean Williams on

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Speaker 1: the practice squad, and I think Wiggan is just the

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Speaker 1: numbers game practice squad. Again. I like his upside. He's

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Speaker 1: active on special teams. And since we were talking about,

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Speaker 1: you know, the corner position as a whole according to

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Folk, because the Cardinals have two of the

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Speaker 1: NFL's fifteen highest graded cornerbacks through two preseason games. Byron

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Speaker 1: Murphy third, he's played thirty six snaps ninety two point eight.

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Speaker 1: No surprise if you talk to Vanish Joseph, I don't

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Speaker 1: think this is anything. And then Marco Wilson thirteenth, he's

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Speaker 1: played forty five STAPs. He only played ten snaps in

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Speaker 1: the last game, played thirty five week. In the week one,

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously Butler played for Butler played one Alfred

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Speaker 1: and Alfred and Murray only played four snaps in the

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Speaker 1: first preseason game, so he only played ten last week.

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Speaker 1: But his grade was eighty five point nine forty five snaps,

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Speaker 1: So thirty five in the first week and then ten

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Speaker 1: last week. Yeah, I wonder if they just have seen

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Speaker 1: enough out of Marco Wilson and don't want to risk

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Speaker 1: injury moving forward. I think because of the matchups. I mean,

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Speaker 1: look look at the Alfred and Butler and Murphy snaps

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Speaker 1: there are somewhere in the thirties, Murphy played thirty two,

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Speaker 1: Alfred played thirty two and Malcolm Butler. As I look

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Speaker 1: and try to scan and Butler and there it is

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Speaker 1: twenty two snaps. So yeah, so you're the top three

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Speaker 1: and then the fourth is going to get fewer. And

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Speaker 1: that's so the other ones were thirty two. So Marco

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Speaker 1: Wilson got ten reps from that position, got it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's he is. He is going to be active because

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Speaker 1: of his ability on special teams and can he find

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Speaker 1: his way onto the field as a defense back at

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Speaker 1: some point and maybe maybe sometimes you do see him

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Speaker 1: on the field as the fourth corner just because you

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Speaker 1: want your best defenders on the football field, regardless if

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Speaker 1: you're listed as a cornerback or a safety. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: that's where you know, if the Cardinals want to go

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Speaker 1: Nickel and Dime, I mean, you gotta we gotta talk

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Speaker 1: about Isaiah Simmons here. Yeah, he could play in the slot.

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Speaker 1: He can cover the tight end, so you know, even

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Speaker 1: though he may not be listed as that, but when

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Speaker 1: they goo Nickel and Dime, you got to think three corners,

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Speaker 1: possibly three safeties, and then I think Isaiah would be

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Speaker 1: the wild card. All right, let's discuss what we saw

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Speaker 1: out of the defense on Friday night. As we continue

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Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover two, presented by Honday, proud partner

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals, we continue to cover Cardinals training

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Speaker 1: camp powered by Cox. The team breaks camp later this

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Speaker 1: week on Thursday, and as we speak, the team is

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Speaker 1: out on the practice field getting ready for this week's

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Speaker 1: contest at the New Orleans Saints. But defensively, Lecky Foe two.

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Speaker 1: Good to see him make his preseason debut. He got

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Speaker 1: the start and played a lot. He was in there

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Speaker 1: to the fourth quarter. Zach Allen did not play, which

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Speaker 1: was interesting because he had been back at practice the

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Speaker 1: day's leading up. Corey Peters did not play. Chard Lawrence

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Speaker 1: did not play, And of course, Jordan Phillips remains on

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Speaker 1: the reserve COVID nineteen list. And we already discussed Victor

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Speaker 1: d Mucajee, who made the most I think of his

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Speaker 1: reps at outside linebacker. But the first team defense, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the inside linebackers because they're joined at the hip.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna talk about Zavin Collins, you gotta talk

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Speaker 1: about Isaiah Simmons. If you talk about Isaiah Simmons, you

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Speaker 1: gotta talk about Zavin Collins. Whether that's fair or not.

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Speaker 1: I just think they're they're gonna be on the field

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Speaker 1: together a lot, and hopefully that's the case not only

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Speaker 1: this season but for the next ten, twelve, fifteen seasons.

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Speaker 1: But I thought after what we saw against the Dallas Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: they don't know big flash plays, but overall, I thought

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Speaker 1: they each performed well, each Finnish with four tackles in

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Speaker 1: their first half worth of work. Isaiah was night and day.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was hesitant in week one, and we

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Speaker 1: talked about him, you know, getting on field coaching from

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Speaker 1: Billy Davis, about hands and not over pursuing. Sometimes he's

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Speaker 1: just got to slow down, look at the target. He

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Speaker 1: covered Travis Kelsey. Kelsey had one catch for eight yards.

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Speaker 1: Truck Kelsey played thirty one snaps. I thought Zavan was fine,

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Speaker 1: but you know, listening to him in the postgame show,

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Speaker 1: he was hard on himself. He missed some tackles over pursuing.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna happen. So I thought he flashed in week one,

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Speaker 1: and I thought Isaiah Simmons flashed in week two. From

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Speaker 1: a standpoint up, you mentioned that he both had four

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Speaker 1: tackles in the first half the eight combined tackles. They

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Speaker 1: were around the ball. But it was nice to see

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Speaker 1: Isaiah because you know, I've kind of been bullish about

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Speaker 1: him taking that next step given an entire offseason, give

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Speaker 1: him a couple of preseason games. But I'm glad he

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Speaker 1: was able to take coaching because he looked like he

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Speaker 1: was more confident versus I thought he was hesitant in

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Speaker 1: the first game, and I don't know why, but that

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Speaker 1: just happens human nature. On the first series, he had

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Speaker 1: a good open field tackle on Nicole Hardman on third

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Speaker 1: and nine, and you thought, get the d offense off

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Speaker 1: the field. But Andy Reid in the preseason is going forward,

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Speaker 1: and they ended up going forward on fourth and three

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Speaker 1: and converted. Happened later on in the first half as well,

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Speaker 1: but Simmons had a good open field tackle, and I

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Speaker 1: just think he was where he needed to be. He

639
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: was also in coverage a lot too, and you brought

640
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: up covering Travis Kelsey, but being or seen number nine

641
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:29,479
Speaker 1: away from the box, if you will, way outside passed

642
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage. You know you're talking fifteen

643
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: twenty yards. Whether he's covering a slot receiver, a wide receiver,

644
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: or a tight end. He's running step for step with

645
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: these players, which shows his speed and athleticism. But I

646
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: do think he is playing smarter, and it goes to

647
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: the reps that he got a year ago minus an offseason,

648
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: taking those reps with a full offseason and now showing

649
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: here in the preseason what he was unable to do

650
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: a year ago because there was no preseason. Isaiah Simmons

651
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: I think has taken a dramatic step forward in his

652
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: developments and what we can expect on a weekend week

653
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: out basis. Well, considering the Cardinals, you know they were

654
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: missing some starters on defense, including J. J. Watton, Chandler Jones,

655
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: Marcus Golden wasn't out there, correct, Okay, They held Patrick

656
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: Mahomes to three points, he threw an interception in the

657
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: end zone. His quarterback rating was forty three. So to me,

658
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: they did their job. And that's why we're talking about

659
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: Byron Murphy and Collins and all these guys playing over

660
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 1: thirty snaps. So that was a great test for them

661
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: and they and to me, the backup quarterbacks, I thought

662
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: they were able to throw the ball in the Cardinals,

663
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 1: you know secondary the younger guys out there. Cardinals don't

664
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: have any sacks in the preseason. As Kyle Levanabosh pointed out,

665
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: they've given up nine, which is going to happen when

666
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: he got straggler running around his head cut off at times.

667
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: Colt McCully does a good job, but the fact that

668
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: they held the Chiefs and Cardinals didn't give up a

669
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: ton of rush yards. They weren't gash like he would

670
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: have thought with the play action. But I thought they

671
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: did a good job at Mahomes. To me, they passed

672
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: the eye test without their star five star players. And

673
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: the one thing with Mahomes, and he does this to everyone,

674
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: is the fourth and two he keeps the ball and

675
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: gets the first down. There's a third and two, he

676
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: keeps the ball, gets the first down. Both those plays

677
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: in the first half well defended. But it is hard

678
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: to defend the other guy, and in this case it's

679
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Cardinals have their own and Kyle Murray.

680
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: It is difficult for defense is to account for everyone.

681
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: Oh and then don't forget the quarterback and run as well. Well.

682
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: Initially they were two for two on fourth down and

683
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: the Cardinals were getting him off on third down. But

684
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: as the game, when I want to say they finished

685
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: fifty percent on third down, they were two for two

686
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: on fourth down. So the numbers are a little inflated

687
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: based on what happened to second half because they were

688
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: getting off the field. But again, you're right in those

689
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: fourth downs they were they were two for two in

690
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, the Chiefs three of nine on third

691
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: down in the first half. They're having a fourteen overall,

692
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: but and oh a four in the first quarter. So

693
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: typically you're getting the team off the field. Yet they're

694
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: rolling the dice talking about the Chiefs on fourth down,

695
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: and that is something that I think a lot of

696
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: teams do because you can you can try different things

697
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: in the preseason because going back to what Kyle Murray says,

698
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't count. Yeah, Craig, I'm probably gonna mention this

699
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: a lot this year. I don't need to see twenty

700
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: two yard field goals from Brayder No, but no, but

701
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: it was a four team play drive, seventy two yards

702
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: chewed up six twenty six. Listen, it beats the alternative.

703
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: But get that close, yep, you gotta get in And

704
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: I know that's the goal, and Cliff's gonna have to

705
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: make some decision to forty five to fifty three and

706
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: they feel comfortable, But I don't want to see a

707
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: bunch of twenty two yard field goals. That means you're

708
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: leaving points on the board in the red zone. Yeah,

709
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: having Matt Prayder there is a great asset, but let's

710
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: hope that he's in his leg for that forty to

711
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: forty nine yard range. And when you get inside the twenty,

712
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: get inside the twenty five yard line, you're punching it

713
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: in because over time, during the course of a game,

714
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: those points are going to add up, and you don't

715
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: want three when you could get six. Attack on the

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00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 1: pa t and all of a sudden it's a four

717
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: points win. Well, and we know when the Cardinals scored

718
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: twenty four points or more or last year they're eight

719
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: and two now they were finished fourteenth in the league,

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Speaker 1: averaging twenty five point nine. Only two teams in the

721
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: Leaf scored over thirty points last year, only two, and

722
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: I think it was the Ravens in the Chiefs. So

723
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: they're close, and there for a while they were when

724
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: they were rolling, they were again, you may not have

725
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: to score thirty five points with this defense, but you

726
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: got to get into the thirties. Kind of like my

727
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: barometer on running the ball thirty times from a team standpoint,

728
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: Now one player you get to thirty. I think that's

729
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: a good number. And in the course, you can also

730
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: run the ball more. If you're playing with the lead,

731
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: especially a two score leading the fourth quarter, you're just

732
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: handing the ball off. And that's where James Conner the

733
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: four minute offense. I mean a you're keeping their offense

734
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: on the sidelines and you're defense as we need to

735
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: go back out there. That's that's the idea, and that's

736
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Speaker 1: that's what we talked about finishing, and I thought they

737
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: finished that Cowboys game like that. One more note on

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Speaker 1: the defense and that would be Zavon Collins. Just a

739
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: couple of quick plays that he had. We brought up

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Speaker 1: the tackle for loss, the combined tackle for loss with

741
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: Temu KG and then there was the play on the

742
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: third defensive series. He goes up the middle and there

743
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: was a big collision with Jeff McKinnon and he has

744
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: the great ability. Talking about Collins as far as reading

745
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: where the ball is going, whether it's going to be

746
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: a run play, whether it's a pass play. He is

747
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 1: quick on his feet as far as where he needs

748
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: to be, and I think that's only going to get

749
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: better with reps. Now. The negative was he missed a

750
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: tackle on a screen pass with the fullback and some

751
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: of those open field tackles are more difficult. But there

752
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: was some good. There was some bad. I would I

753
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: don't even call it bad, but just some areas for

754
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: Zavon Collins to clean up. But he is, without a doubt,

755
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: a very physical player and a very smart player. Once again,

756
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: did not notice any issues as far as the communication,

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00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: whether it's from the sideline or from Collins to the

758
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: rest of his teammates. Not a lot of hands in

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00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: up in the air pointing this and thats, and I

760
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 1: think that is great for this team moving forward. Now,

761
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: moving forward to the Saints game, I do think we'll

762
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: see a little bit as Avon Collins and Isaiah Simmons's

763
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: that's just me just to kind of get them more snaps.

764
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: If they don't play, I'm perfectly acceptable with it. But

765
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: when we talk about who plays and who doesn't, somebody

766
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: has to play. You've got to find eleven offensive players.

767
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: Kevin Weaver there you go as an inside linebacker, and

768
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: you might even see a little Terrence Smith as well.

769
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Speaker 1: And exactly just you know, you got to get through

770
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: these sixty minutes, the final sixty minutes before the regular season.

771
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: But not everyone can sit. That's the bottom line, all right.

772
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: A couple of updates. Both Brian Winters and Justin Murray

773
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: are out there in the open portion of practice in

774
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: Max Williams has returned familius. All good news there again,

775
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: even though they may not participate with all the eleven

776
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: on eleven just the fact that they're on the field

777
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: is the means they're getting closer. Now it's time to

778
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: get into football shape. You know what else is getting closer.

779
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: We are getting closer to Episode one folk Tale, something

780
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: that a lot of people have worked very hard on

781
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: this offseason, kind of taking you behind the story for

782
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: the main story. And episode one deals with or the

783
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: title is called Legendary Locker, but deals with the locker

784
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: that Pat Tillman once used and how that came to

785
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: be a focal point within the Cardinals training facility, whether

786
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: as a tour spot or just something that can stand

787
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: out amongst the rest of the organization. But it's episode

788
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Speaker 1: one Legendary Locker September eighth on the Arizona Cardinals official

789
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: YouTube channel. Now, you are part of this folk tales

790
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: and you've been behind the scenes, and you know, hopefully

791
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: we'll hear you and see you because you do know

792
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: some of the interviews. But I can't tell you from

793
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Speaker 1: a media standpoint how many people I've talked to and

794
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: they were just thrilled to see this series. It's it's

795
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: great stuff. I mean the trailer they said out that

796
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: you just want more. I mean it gives you. I

797
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: think it's eleven different episodes, um, and it's different topics

798
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: and every the goal post and going to Mexico and

799
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: the whole the Pat Tillman thing. So Monday Night melt

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00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: Down Urban worked on. I was participated on the coin toss,

801
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: the coin that did not flip and then money Mike

802
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 1: Michael Adams and play against the Green Bay Packers the playoffs.

803
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 1: I did see the esteem Mark Dalton in there. Also,

804
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: Jimmy Amhundro's his acting chops are great when he's telling

805
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: them no, no, no, don't because they were doing construction

806
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: in the locker room and if Jimmy wasn't there wasn't

807
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: aware of it that locker would have been in the

808
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: dumpster and that did not happen. But I can't say

809
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: enough all the hard work you guys that I'm serious.

810
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I watch it and I'm like, man, this

811
00:41:55,400 --> 00:42:00,280
Speaker 1: is it's just working here and all the digital stuff

812
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: we do in the content. To me, it's up there

813
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: with the flight plan. It is something to watch and

814
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: must see. Watch and again. Episode one Legendary Locker comes

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Speaker 1: up September eighth on the Cardinal's official YouTube channel. It's

816
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: folk Tales. Very proud of it and looking forward to

817
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: it as well. Anything else you got to MJ, whether

818
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: or about the game or what Cliff Kingsbury had to

819
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: say about the team prior to practice on Monday. No,

820
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 1: and you know you know Friday, uh, I think it

821
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: was which before the game we found some news about

822
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald. He is still retired. He is not reporting

823
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: to camp. And yes, Fits basically has one foot out

824
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: the door, maybe a foot and a half out the door.

825
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: Does not have the urge to play right now. Okay,

826
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: but the door is open. Perhaps it's September, October, November, December,

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Speaker 1: just don't see it. He's working out now. Darren Urban,

828
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: who's covered Fits is just as long as I have

829
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: is adamant. This goes against Larry saying that he you know,

830
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: wouldn't chase a ring or he wouldn't wear another uniform.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, when I see and I've had conversations

832
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks, I'm not going to get into names and

833
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: how much fun they are having last year week five.

834
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Speaker 1: If somebody picks up the phone and it's I'm not

835
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: ruling anything out when it comes to Fits playing this year,

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Well, he has been steadfast on

837
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: the record that he would play for only one team. Now,

838
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: can you change your mind? Sure, and everyone does it.

839
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: People change their mind, but it certainly would one be

840
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: a stunner, and then two if your head's not in

841
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: it all the way. And it didn't sound like it

842
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: based off his conversation with Jim Gray on Sirius XM

843
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: the show Let's Go, it certainly sounds like and we've

844
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 1: already heard from players like once you start thinking about retirement,

845
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: you're done, especially when you want to play tackle football.

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00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: I can just tell you he's working out well. I

847
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: work out too, m J. I'm not making a comeback

848
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: there was well, there's nothing to come back from. But yeah,

849
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: that's right. You're up at four am walking in, you're

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Speaker 1: ten years where he's ballooned up and all that other stuff.

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Speaker 1: But you know, father Time as a winning record. But hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, walking eighteen holes that takes a lot out

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Speaker 1: of you too. Don't forget about that. Well, he do

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Speaker 1: have a golf cardinal, that's true. On that note, let's

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Speaker 1: put a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two

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Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim mom Andro For

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Speaker 1: Mike Drecky, I'm Craig Riel Loup. We'll talk to you

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