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Speaker 1: Sean made my dream come true when he named me

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Speaker 1: executive vice president of Football Operations.

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Speaker 2: That's a guy I want to be in the bunker with.

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Speaker 2: You know, his passion for the Jaguars, his support that

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Speaker 2: he shows right off the bat. You know, it's contagious.

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Speaker 3: Tony taking over.

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Speaker 1: His EVP impacts not only the coach.

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Speaker 3: But also impacts the front office.

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Speaker 1: So look, he's in a very important and prominent role.

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Speaker 2: There's some real, real wisdom, support and you know, security

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Speaker 2: when you're with him.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: That's all I care about that James Gladstone and Lamb

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Speaker 1: Cohen have success.

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Speaker 3: Tony was born for best. All right, Welcome into Vic

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Speaker 3: Sweet's EV podcast, and I am here with the triumvirant,

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Speaker 3: if you will, Jaguars executive I always have to get

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Speaker 3: through this Executive vice President of Football Operations and the

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Speaker 3: longest title in the NFL, Tony Visalak head coach Sam

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Speaker 3: Cohen and general manager James Gladston. We're just said it.

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Speaker 3: I guess sort of here to wrap up the off season.

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Speaker 3: I guess the first thing I want to know is,

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Speaker 3: after two months working together, you guys, the dynamic has

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Speaker 3: been so good. Uh, Tony, I guess you start, it's

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Speaker 3: your podcast. Uh, tell me about the dynamic of working

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Speaker 1: Well, until yesterday, it was really good. Hit a snag,

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Speaker 1: hit a snag. James decided. We played one on one basketball, okay,

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Speaker 1: and very poor match. I mean it was brutal.

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Speaker 3: Neither of us won.

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Speaker 1: James, if you would have looked at us by.

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Speaker 3: The end of it, it was a bad everybody's a winner,

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Speaker 3: noon a loser.

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Speaker 1: James one on the scoreboard, which was fine. It's a

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Speaker 1: good competition. The head coach on national to me to

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Speaker 1: let the whole nation that James meet me in one one.

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Speaker 1: So there's a division going on right now.

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Speaker 3: You work with quickness, agility, Did he go inside? Did

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Speaker 3: he draw?

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Speaker 4: It was no fouls called.

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Speaker 1: There's no fouls, and there were I might have hacked

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Speaker 3: He won.

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Speaker 1: He has quickness on me, there's no time about that.

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Speaker 1: He has skill on me.

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Speaker 3: He can shoot, stamina probably too.

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Speaker 1: He has working body parts.

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Speaker 5: Oh, there were moments it's hard where it was very

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Speaker 2: Against somebody who had a very long NFL career.

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Speaker 1: And then finally he beat me mentally, which is the

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Speaker 1: dared me to shoot two point game over two points

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Speaker 5: He said, yeah, I've been backing him down.

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Speaker 3: We were both gas. We were both hoping that that

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Speaker 5: It all started with you know, a playful yet underlying

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Speaker 2: I think it's probably fair to say that if we

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Speaker 3: So Tony's the only one that I would probably remember.

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Speaker 3: This reference the old Superstar shows is that we're looking

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Speaker 1: It's a very modified something that we want.

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Speaker 3: Knowing to suit this cant document.

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Speaker 1: But overall, listen, I think from my perspective, the three

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Speaker 3: Somewhat taking Tony out of the mix because it's his podcast.

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Speaker 3: But we haven't talked to you guys as much the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that we're both coaches sons first and foremost, right,

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Speaker 4: so there's a natural just balance of what you appreciate

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Speaker 3: So I think that it starts there.

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Speaker 4: We're both obviously younger within our roles and also younger parents,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very similar. I think obviously with a previous working relationship,

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Speaker 3: And so when you see that on the practice field

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Speaker 2: I've been really excited about knowing that come the challenging times,

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Speaker 2: And really looking forward to what this group and the

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Speaker 2: is absolutely going to include setbacks or adversity and how

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Speaker 3: And I was gonna throw that question open for everybody,

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Speaker 3: we handle a loss, because unless you goes seventeen to oh,

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Speaker 3: saying statistically it's difficult. But the problem has that been

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Speaker 1: I think we all know it's coming. I mean, as

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Speaker 3: You mentioned the catchphrase that James always talked has obviously

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Speaker 4: that's normal.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's very fully expected.

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Speaker 4: But in terms of the buy in from the players, right,

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Speaker 4: you know that that's ultimately truly what matters most is

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Speaker 1: Stones Yeah, I mean, listen, it's been great. But to

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Speaker 3: Get excited getting the honeymoon because it was bad.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, things are not being We wouldn't be

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Speaker 3: I think what I.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate most about this offseason is the entire building here

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Speaker 1: right direction so that we're not just having our fans

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Speaker 1: excited during this honeymoon phase where there's change and there's

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Speaker 1: end of the year. Forget about the record. Is I

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Speaker 1: think what Liam says exactly right, that our fans will

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Speaker 1: That's why I appreciate the most, because I know that

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Speaker 1: when change comes, yes, fans are excited, and I love

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Speaker 1: It's all new stuff for our players. Players have questions

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Speaker 1: Leam's right. As a player, You're like, you're doing what

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to do because they're the coaches. But at

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Speaker 1: James came in middle parachutes in the middle, all these

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Speaker 1: James comes in and says, this is how we're gonna He.

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Speaker 3: Comes in and says, hey, we're trading up.

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Speaker 1: We're doing a lot of different new things, and that

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Speaker 1: it was gradual when we continue to do In watching

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Speaker 1: the competitive nature, I think, I don't want to say

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Speaker 1: I was surprised by I look at our players. Guys

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Speaker 1: who've been here hadn't gone well. I've been very easy

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Speaker 1: for them to say like here we go again. But

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Speaker 1: the majority of players buying in football operations, the work

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Speaker 1: our coaches have done personnel, that's what gets me excited

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Speaker 1: win football games. And that's all you can ask that's

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Speaker 1: what our fans are asking for, ultimately results, But you

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Speaker 1: themselves if we do. I think my belief is you

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Speaker 1: do everything right, trust the process, work just where you

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Speaker 1: need to compete your tails off everything else to take

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Speaker 3: No better way to end this, no better way to

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Speaker 3: end an exciting off season. Guys. I can't thank you

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Speaker 3: enough for doing this. Tony, since it's his podcast, he

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Speaker 3: also can't thank you enough, but I do think you fantastic.

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Speaker 3: John is getting tired of talking to you just me. Well,

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Speaker 3: we didn't that for thirty years, so absolutely, guys. Enjoy

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Speaker 3: the off season and thank you for doing Thanks, Thanks Johnny,

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Speaker 3: Thank you