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Speaker 2: Tom Dongo right now, a UFO E T researcher, remote viewer,
Speaker 2: medical intuitives and so on and so on and so forth.
Speaker 2: We were talking about where I'd seen like a city
Speaker 2: skyline go by. You saw like this oil liner thing
Speaker 2: at the dark with the lights oil rig And I
Speaker 2: got an email from Carol Zach So Carol, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: mention this. He just passed this on to me and said,
Speaker 2: I too saw a city block of bills floating in
Speaker 2: the sky, which I'd never heard that again until decades later.
Speaker 2: And I believe they were out of Africa at the story.
Speaker 2: It was like some like I was like, what where?
Speaker 2: And they had described the same thing. So Carol says
Speaker 2: it was over Manhattan. As we were driving on the
Speaker 2: Henry Hudson Parkway. I googled it and the same thing
Speaker 2: had happened in the skyline over a city in the Orient.
Speaker 2: So thank you for writing that in because that confirmation
Speaker 2: is just great because you think, oh, I got to
Speaker 2: hold my you know, hold my hat on that one,
Speaker 2: because no one's going to believe that, right. So I
Speaker 2: love that we have so much communication now that we
Speaker 2: can compare notes like that, Tom now, medical, intuitive, remote
Speaker 2: view or all these things. When did you start getting
Speaker 2: these abilities or did you notice that you had them
Speaker 2: to the extent that you do.
Speaker 3: Well, you know we're going to be here all night
Speaker 3: if you satur on this stuff.
Speaker 2: Make that a brief one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well you know I can see into it.
Speaker 3: I was. I can see into a human body like
Speaker 3: an X ray machine. I wanted to run out, run
Speaker 3: into and I don't do it to make money. I
Speaker 3: tried to do that and it didn't work. So evidently
Speaker 3: I'm not supposed to make money. Otherwise I'd be a millionaire.
Speaker 3: But I've done it with hundreds and hundreds of people.
Speaker 3: In fact, I used to be in a restaurant. Somebody
Speaker 3: would walk up to me and they say, can you
Speaker 3: scan me. I never turned anybody down. I never charged
Speaker 3: him anything either, but I was always about ninety percent right,
Speaker 3: you know, whatever I could see whatever was wrong with
Speaker 3: it in the body. And I've even done this on
Speaker 3: medical doctors and you know, they go, okay, pal check
Speaker 3: me out, you know, and I would, you know, And
Speaker 3: I had a p example. I was at a conference
Speaker 3: one time in this a medical doctor. He was there
Speaker 3: because he was stressed out. He was there to relax
Speaker 3: and he was very overweight, and which has got nothing
Speaker 3: to do with it. But he said, okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: let's you know, take a look at me. So I said,
Speaker 3: and I said, okay, well stand up, you know, see
Speaker 3: the half them standing up. So I scanned his body,
Speaker 3: looked through everything, and I wrote down the things that
Speaker 3: were wrong. And then he said, you know what, you
Speaker 3: got it ninety percent right, but you missed one thing.
Speaker 3: I said, well, what's that my back? He said, I've
Speaker 3: got a problem with my back. And I said, oh really,
Speaker 3: So I said turn around, and there it was, and
Speaker 3: he was so fat I couldn't see through him. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: the first thing. I first time I ever noticed that.
Speaker 3: But I said, oh yeah, And I did this just
Speaker 3: a couple of days ago with a person. Uh. In fact,
Speaker 3: I had an offer to be in business in San Francisco. Free,
Speaker 3: set me up and the whole thing. Just just see
Speaker 3: patients before I went in, see patients before they went
Speaker 3: into his office. At any rate, the doctor I got down,
Speaker 3: I touched, I touched a few things. I always get
Speaker 3: a big kick out of this. And I said right here,
Speaker 3: and they go, oh, oh, that's it, that's it, that's it.
Speaker 3: You get the spot, and I describe it. You know
Speaker 3: the uh you know that what's what? You know? The
Speaker 3: nerves are out of place, the blood vessels are not right,
Speaker 3: and you got a disc that slipped, but just enough
Speaker 3: to you know. So I did that to a doctor
Speaker 3: in San Francisco and he he came all the way
Speaker 3: to sit on or to see me just for that reason.
Speaker 3: And I was I just diagnosed his back uh problem,
Speaker 3: so accurately. He offered me in Palo Aljo, he offered
Speaker 3: he was gonna set me up, say pay himself with
Speaker 3: an office, uh, and then to see his patients before
Speaker 3: they came in to see him. And there's a guy
Speaker 3: in Phoenix, J. Caliendo does it. He's even better than
Speaker 3: I do it. I haven't seen Jay in about years,
Speaker 3: but J Kelly, you know I can do it. He can.
Speaker 3: He's good at prescribing a cure. I mean, he's wow.
Speaker 3: But I'm not. I'm not. But I can see the problem.
Speaker 3: I can in. Uh in cancer is a horror to
Speaker 3: look at.
Speaker 2: Really, what does it look like?
Speaker 3: Oh, it's it's a it's more of a feeling. It's
Speaker 3: it's a it's a it's just a it's like smelling
Speaker 3: gas fumes or something. It's just it makes you feel awful.
Speaker 2: Well, can you do this? Can you do this remotely?
Speaker 2: Or you have to be in front of them?
Speaker 3: Sometimes I I have to repeat I do not do
Speaker 3: this for a living. But I hear the girl in
Speaker 3: Pennsylvania in Philadelphia of fourth stage cancer, just to see
Speaker 3: if I could do it. And I was in Sedona,
Speaker 3: and uh, I've got the letter. I keep the letter.
Speaker 3: She said, Uh, I just came for the hospital and
Speaker 3: my doctor is ninety nine percent free of cancer, and
Speaker 3: I'm beside myself with happiness. Yeah, so I was a
Speaker 3: spirit gave me a technique to do that. But like
Speaker 3: I say, I'm I don't do that for a living.
Speaker 3: Do it for money? Actually, most of these I've done.
Speaker 3: I've done them for friends, for free, just to help
Speaker 3: them out.
Speaker 2: It's interesting because I asked you before if you were
Speaker 2: an abductee and you said no, Because a lot of
Speaker 2: times people are abductees, and that's why they're into this.
Speaker 2: They're they're searching for what it is that they're going through,
Speaker 2: and you know, these these urges of what's going on.
Speaker 2: I know there's something and I get bits and pieces.
Speaker 2: Now you're you know, now you've got all these abilities
Speaker 2: as well, but you don't feel like you've been abducted
Speaker 2: or at least a consistent abductee.
Speaker 3: Well, I think I was born with most of this stuff,
Speaker 3: you know. I I've talked to when we talked the
Speaker 3: other day, I there's uh dozens of times I could
Speaker 3: have been killed, but there's something that stands behind me, Sir.
Speaker 3: A spiritual being or an extraterrestrially guards me, keeps me safe,
Speaker 3: and uh, they they they they keep a lookout for me.
Speaker 2: So, well, tell me about Bradshaw Ranch. How'd you get
Speaker 2: involved with that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that's uh that what was an ongoing thing
Speaker 3: for four and a half years. I'd been wanting to
Speaker 3: go out there because I'd heard the rumors, you know,
Speaker 3: of stuff going on. And uh so I get a
Speaker 3: letter a couple of days later from Linda Bradshaw, and
Speaker 3: she said, would you please come out to the ranch
Speaker 3: because I'd been kind, I'd written a couple of books
Speaker 3: so people knew who I was. And she she said,
Speaker 3: she said, she gave me some photographs and and and
Speaker 3: the first ORB photographs were taken by Linda Bradshaw and
Speaker 3: Linda Crystal and Pine Bush, New York. Uh And and
Speaker 3: after that they Linda Crystal and Linda Bradshaw, and they're
Speaker 3: both gone now, they both passed away. Uh the orbit
Speaker 3: photography orbs spread around the world. I don't understand that.
Speaker 3: But within months with orb activity spread around the world.
Speaker 3: So Linda and I did a lot of research on orbs.
Speaker 3: Uh you know, I like I say, I spent four
Speaker 3: and a half years out there, and there was the
Speaker 3: famous vortex and it wasn't it wasn't just there once.
Speaker 3: Because when I got interviewed last time on the History Channel,
Speaker 3: I think the guy assumed it was only there one time.
Speaker 3: And I didn't know that that's what he was asking about.
Speaker 3: But now I do. Now I know that he thought
Speaker 3: it was just a one time thing, but it wasn't.
Speaker 3: It was there all four and a half years, and
Speaker 3: it was big, a big portal twenty thirty feet across
Speaker 3: and by the by the ranch house, from very close
Speaker 3: to the ranch house. And we could feel me and
Speaker 3: Linda used to joke sometimes we felt like we were
Speaker 3: in Times Square. We had we could feel so many
Speaker 3: things moving around us, and we we thought that they
Speaker 3: could see us, so we couldn't see them, but they
Speaker 3: but they had a lot of times they have. It
Speaker 3: smells sometimes very bad, sometimes very good. So it was
Speaker 3: it was a strange situation, just like.
Speaker 2: New York in Times Square.
Speaker 3: Right right, right right.
Speaker 2: Is the portal that you're talking about. Is that one
Speaker 2: of the pictures in your book Merging Dimensions the new edition?
Speaker 2: Is that the one that's kind of got that like
Speaker 2: light pole, Yeah, electric.
Speaker 3: Pole in it in the Yeah, Well that that you know,
Speaker 3: well Bill Hammerton. Bill Hamilton used to work with us
Speaker 3: at the time. He was the top UFO research in
Speaker 3: the world. That photograph is the same photograph Bennington Oregon
Speaker 3: is not that Bennington is not the right word, I forget,
Speaker 3: but it was taken in nineteen fifty and it is
Speaker 3: the same photograph almost it's there're all different, but it
Speaker 3: was taking that one that is in my book was
Speaker 3: taken at the Brad Sharans. So Bill accused Linda and
Speaker 3: I on on national forums of being liars, hoaxers, you know,
Speaker 3: And we had a hard time living that down because
Speaker 3: they thought that Bill kind of claimed that we stole it,
Speaker 3: you know, we plagiarized it, and we didn't. It was
Speaker 3: actually taken by Linda at the Bradshawns. You know how
Speaker 3: that coincidence occurred. I don't have any idea, but we
Speaker 3: had a hard time with that that being accused of
Speaker 3: faking that that photograph.
Speaker 2: And and that was that was by someone that's one
Speaker 2: of us that that was doing that said that about it.
Speaker 3: Bill, Bill was Bill was the top Bill Hamilton was
Speaker 3: the top UFO researcher in the world at the time.
Speaker 3: Interesting interestingly enough, Bill I listened to get a load
Speaker 3: of this. You know, I say in my talk I
Speaker 3: talked to audiences often and I'll say I can prove
Speaker 3: I'm not just blowing steam out of my ears whenever
Speaker 3: I talk about I can prove it. You know, you
Speaker 3: questioned me, and I can prove it. If you and
Speaker 3: if you prove me wrong, that's the end of it. Period. Zip.
Speaker 3: So anyway, me and Bill we were you know, I
Speaker 3: tell people this and they got they look at me like,
Speaker 3: are you crazy? You that really happened? I know that
Speaker 3: one yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah right.
Speaker 2: I don't like that look.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah yeah right. Oh yeah. So Bill and
Speaker 3: I were standing out in the field by the Bradshaw
Speaker 3: Ranch and then we were just talking, you know, and
Speaker 3: this fifty foot orb rose out of the ground right
Speaker 3: in front of us, maybe thirty feet away from us,
Speaker 3: as a white orb. It came right out of the ground.
Speaker 3: And this was this sort of thing was happening in Crestone, Colorado,
Speaker 3: because I was in Crest only this stuff was going on,
Speaker 3: these orbs coming out of the ground like a bubble,
Speaker 3: just coming drifting right out of the ground. So anyway, Bill,
Speaker 3: Bill and I just kind of dumbfound and watching this
Speaker 3: thing flowed up to about oh, I don't know, three
Speaker 3: hundred feet or so, and it suddenly turned into a
Speaker 3: single engine light plane like a you know, a Cessna,
Speaker 3: and suddenly had you know, lights flashing all around us,
Speaker 3: all around the plane, the engine sounds all that and
Speaker 3: then it flew off right over Sodona and Bill. I
Speaker 3: thought Bill was going to pee his pants like me.
Speaker 3: He said, Oh I saw something like that once at
Speaker 3: the TACHIPI passed just really casually, and I'm going, damn, Bill,
Speaker 3: I just peed myself.
Speaker 2: You know, it's the visual. I can't get it out
Speaker 2: of my mind.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, right, I mean stuff like that. That's
Speaker 3: what That's what happened at the Bradshaw Nch. And you know,
Speaker 3: you got used to it after a while. And we
Speaker 3: had we had TV crews week after week after week,
Speaker 3: and celebrities, famous people, uh you know, And so I
Speaker 3: actually got bored being interviewed after a while. There was
Speaker 3: the same same sort of thing every week.
Speaker 2: Yeah sure, yeah.
Speaker 3: And but but the thing that is, Lenna and I
Speaker 3: desperately needed sophisticated scientific equipment because we we all we had.
Speaker 3: That's all we could afford was thirty five millimeter point
Speaker 3: and shoot cameras in spotlights, uh uh and binoculars and
Speaker 3: that sort of thing. But that's all we could afford.
Speaker 3: And there were no VCRs back in those days. They
Speaker 3: would film at night. Now they all will. I have
Speaker 3: two Sony's now that will fit with our zero luxe
Speaker 3: cameras that will film anything the human eye can see
Speaker 3: at night. And we didn't have cameras like that back then.
Speaker 3: So we would beg the uh, you know the camera
Speaker 3: that with uh wood film at night was one hundred
Speaker 3: thousand dollars, the ones that the film crews used, uh
Speaker 3: and uh. So they would be they would see the
Speaker 3: same things we would see, you know this, they'd be
Speaker 3: they'd be dumbfounded, they'd be gobsmacked, you know, the stuff
Speaker 3: they saw, and they we would we would ask them
Speaker 3: go back to your superiors. I remember Universal Studios particularly well.
Speaker 3: So we asked him, when you go back to your superior,
Speaker 3: your boss, tell them what you saw, and tell tell
Speaker 3: them we desperately need a scientific equipment and we will
Speaker 3: give them all rights to whatever they film. And if
Speaker 3: you don't trust us, loan it's a cameraman for you know,
Speaker 3: for a couple of weeks or a month or whatever,
Speaker 3: and you'll get some. Because we knew it was going
Speaker 3: to end, these things always do, so we we knew
Speaker 3: that we were running out of time. But we never
Speaker 3: got anything from anybody except a guy in Texas scent
Speaker 3: of a parent night vision binoculars that still work.
Speaker 2: Oh that's great because those are pretty expensive.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, well these are KGB. These are the best
Speaker 3: the Soviets had and you still got them. They still
Speaker 3: they still work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you still have it all. Good for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's cool. And you're in the right spot
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, so when you wanted to do scientific research
Speaker 2: or experiment, what did you want to do? Oh what
Speaker 2: was your strategies?
Speaker 3: Oh? Any anything we could get ground penetrating radar and
Speaker 3: the other stuff is I know, the Skinwalker Ranch guys
Speaker 3: pretty well in Brandon Fugel it owns it. He's a
Speaker 3: he's a friend of mine. Very very nice man, Brandon
Speaker 3: Fugal you own Skinwalker Ranch. Very nice man, a real gentleman.
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