1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 2: Cowboys, Let's go. 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 4: Yes? 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 5: Are you ready for a break? 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 6: Absolutely? 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 3: Ready for a break? 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, and so much for that. 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: right with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Votch Lombardi, and 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. 13 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 5: It is Friday, August first, twenty twenty five, Season twenty one, 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 5: Episode number. 15 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 7: Wait, number ten. 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 5: Welcome to Lay's edition of The Breakwheel, Live from Oxnard, California. 17 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 5: Cowboys don't have practice today, but we're still here. We're 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 5: talking Cowboys football. They'll be back at practice tomorrow. Then 19 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 5: we'll have another day on Sunday before next week's gone Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 5: they got practice heading into their first preseason game on 21 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 5: Saturday against the Rams. That Tuesday practice will actually be 22 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 5: versus the Rams. The Rams will be out here in 23 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 5: ox and Ard, so if you're in the area and 24 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 5: want to come by, that's a great day to come 25 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 5: out and watch a little a little football between the two. 26 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 5: It's probably gonna be a little more action in that 27 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 5: then maybe have been in the preseason game, so those 28 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 5: are always fun when you have the joint practices. So 29 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 5: we'll see how that goes. 30 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 3: You think he plays the starters series or two? You 31 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: know what, is that a question you want to hold? 32 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 4: No? 33 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, that's actually a good question because I'll 34 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 5: tell you this. 35 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 6: I know, but I want to get into it just 36 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 6: a little bit because I'm not with you guys. Yeah, yeah, 37 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 6: but I just wanted to say, do you feel like 38 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 6: that he is I kind of feel. 39 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: Like he might. 40 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I do too. 41 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: I think this cat's a little different that way. 42 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 5: Here's what I would the only thing I wonder, and 43 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 5: we're about to get into this with all the injuries, 44 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 5: I wonder with that growing injury list, does that make 45 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 5: him say? I wanted to but man, I don't know 46 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 5: if I can justify it because it right now the 47 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 5: injury list is pretty substantial. 48 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 8: I think you might see some not all. In my opinion, 49 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 8: Dak Prescott shuldn taket snap in the preseason. You just don't. 50 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 8: You don't risk it. I think he's good enough out 51 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 8: here to wear. Like you said, you let him practice 52 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 8: against the Rams. That smile tells me you think otherwise 53 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 8: brought us. 54 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 6: Come on, man, play some football, right, go play football? 55 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess the Eagles League one, right, go play football. 56 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 5: Man, He's not football. Look, this reminds me. 57 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 3: You guys all getting scared now about playing. 58 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 9: I'm with you for the first time ever. 59 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 3: I agree. 60 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 9: However, no, no, no, for preseason stuff playing I could dry in. 61 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 9: This is the one time that I'm like, yeah, I 62 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 9: feel like you need to do you have. 63 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 5: To For long time breakers, this is an age old 64 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 5: debate between you. Remember Brian and Dave. Remember Helman was 65 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 5: very much like, I don't want to see a starter 66 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 5: until week one of the NFL season, and Brian's like, 67 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 5: you gotta, you gotta play football, man, and Helmans just 68 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 5: not feeling it. But I kind of get. I think 69 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 5: I agree with you that I think this coach is different. 70 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 5: I think this. 71 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 9: Coach quarter what a little quarter? A little quarters? 72 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? 73 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: There you go. All right, let's talk about the day. 74 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 5: This injury list, no, no, it's this injury list is is 75 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 5: pretty substantial. I guess the one that's most interesting right now, 76 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 5: the one that's the injury that's most interesting right now 77 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 5: is savone rebel. What do we know about about his 78 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 5: injury and where he is in his recovery at this point. 79 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think, you know, Revel. 80 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 8: I know there's some reports out there that week one 81 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 8: was kind of the goal. I think that was always lofty. 82 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 8: I think that was always a very optimistic view of 83 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 8: things of hey, if this rehab is going ahead of schedule, 84 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 8: then maybe. But the other thing too, is this staff 85 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 8: doesn't want to throw Savone Revel right into the fire, 86 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 8: like if they can't get this guy a couple of 87 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 8: weeks of practice, you know, and get his to get 88 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 8: his legs under him and get acclimated to what it's 89 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 8: like to play NFL football, much less making a jump 90 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 8: from a school like East Carolina. It's now playing against 91 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 8: AJ Brown and DeVante Smith week one, So they want 92 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 8: to get this guy acclimated. But I think I think 93 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 8: his recovery is going to take a little bit longer. 94 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 8: So I know the word setback was used a little bit, 95 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 8: and I think there I don't know if there was 96 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 8: a setback, but I've heard, just talking to some people 97 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 8: around the building that there may have been a slight 98 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 8: tweak in something while he was going through on field 99 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 8: work and recovery, but nothing that deterred his timeline drastically, 100 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 8: if at all. It's just, you know, these injuries are 101 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 8: different for every player, right. I think Javonte Williams was 102 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 8: talking about it earlier this offseason, where it's different in 103 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 8: every situation. The Cowboys are no rush to bring savone 104 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 8: revel back, nor should they be. And uh, you know, 105 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 8: it wouldn't shock me if this is a guy who 106 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 8: starts the year on pupp and misses those first four games, 107 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 8: but after that you could see him working on this 108 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 8: cornerback rotation. 109 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: Boss. I used the word set back to a guy 110 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 3: I got slapped. 111 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 7: That's why I said, that's what it was. 112 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 3: Yes, I got slapped. 113 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 7: That's not what it was. 114 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 6: I said, hey, setback and literally right hand two face 115 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 6: with me. 116 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 117 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 6: I think Tommy's onto this though. This rehab has been 118 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 6: unique in a lot of different ways, and I mean 119 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 6: unique and maybe difficult at times. 120 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 3: You know, it's it's tough. 121 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 6: He he goes from rehabbing before he was drafted and 122 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 6: now he gets picked up, you know, gets drafted and 123 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 6: now he's part of the Britt Brown program and stuff 124 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 6: and the expectations, and you know we were hearing that like, Okay, well, 125 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 6: he's going to be back and he and I was 126 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 6: even hearing that. I'm like, hey, you know, we're not 127 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 6: going to put him out there until he's one hundred percent. 128 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 6: But I think this one Tommy's right. I think this 129 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 6: thing is going to take some time. But I was 130 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 6: also told, we don't know the timetable. We don't know that, 131 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 6: you know. And I know in one O five three 132 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 6: The Fan, we got to visit with his dad a 133 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 6: little bit. You know, his dad said some things that 134 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 6: kind of caught some people's attention. Yeah, that's not doing 135 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 6: the rehab, you know, That's what I'm saying. So so, yeah, 136 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 6: I don't think there was a setback. I just think 137 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 6: that they are they're they're being really measured to how 138 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 6: they're getting how they're getting him ready for this thing. 139 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 6: And so I think your assessment is probably pretty close. 140 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 8: And I want to make it clear again that there 141 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 8: was I'm not saying there was a setback. 142 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 7: There was no no, no, no, but but but his 143 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 7: but his dad said that. 144 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 6: His dad said there was a setback on our on 145 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 6: our station, on the flagship station for the Cowboys, one 146 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 6: O five three The Fan, Make sure you listen to 147 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 6: pre and post game show with us all the time. 148 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 6: But they you know, see, but that that's where that's where, 149 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 6: you know, that's where we got to be careful because 150 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 6: Pop's great man senior. You know, he was very like, well, 151 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 6: you know, he's very upbeat and all that. But like 152 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 6: I said, they they don't have that timetable. And like 153 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 6: I said, when I said the words setback, I caught 154 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,239 Speaker 6: it straight right, and so I learned my lesson. 155 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 8: And here's the thing too, Britt Brown is one of 156 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 8: the best in the game, if not the best in 157 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 8: the game in terms of getting these guys back and ready. 158 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 7: So just let him do his thing. Yeah, let him 159 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 7: do his thing. 160 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 3: Players working hard, though, absolutely is. They're excited about what 161 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 3: the players try to do. 162 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 6: But he his you have up until this point was 163 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 6: not a Dallas cowboy done rehab. And there's certain things 164 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 6: that they want to be able. And I think it's 165 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 6: a little bit like the same thing with Diggs. You know, 166 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 6: I think they've Diggs just look looked fine. We'll see 167 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 6: how this all plays out. I'm so ready for all 168 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 6: this to go. I'm so ready for I'm so ready 169 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 6: for the Mica and the and listen, this Mica think 170 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 6: too is I'm sorry, it's difficult. 171 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 3: It's difficult. Both sides are there. 172 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 6: This is a struggle and the DIGS thing, it's a struggle, 173 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 6: and everything's a struggle right now. 174 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: The one thing that they can control is. 175 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 6: Those practices, and we need to talk about those practices 176 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 6: because there's been some good practices out here. It's this 177 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 6: off the field kind of stuff that just it just 178 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 6: it drained you. You know, it drains you when you're 179 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 6: watching out here, because that's all people want to talk about. Contract, contract, contract, 180 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 6: Why as you saying this, why saying let me tell 181 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 6: you that that Nate Thomas had a really good day yesterday, 182 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 6: blocking you know what, awesome Richards. I'll tell you what, man, 183 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 6: you know, if kneeland, if they get kneeling playing. 184 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: The past, you know, that's that's what. 185 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 5: I want to talk about. It good stuff. 186 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 7: That's what I want to talk about right now. 187 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 3: But this off the field stuff is training. 188 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 5: We're going to get to Micah and talk a little 189 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 5: bit more. Sorry, talk about a little bit that, a 190 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 5: little bit more. I did have a couple more injuries. 191 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 5: I wanted to catch up on what do we know 192 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 5: about Tyler Smith? He missed practice has says, there's some 193 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 5: what we're hearing about. 194 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 8: Him really more just almost like a day off, like 195 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 8: just giving him some rest time. 196 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 7: But that's nothing serious. He'll be fun, That's perfect. 197 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 5: That's what we don't because right now it's just seems 198 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 5: like it's just getting batter. 199 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 6: Was shoe Buddies coming in town? Yeah, crawfish cooking buddy 200 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 6: Lou Collins, Yeah, I did. I spoke to Will McClay 201 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 6: on this one, and I asked Will, I said, hey, 202 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 6: where are we at on this? And he's just just 203 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 6: to work out, Brian, just work out, you see we're 204 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 6: at and uh so you know, Lyle Collins has been 205 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 6: working with Duke there in Frisco, and and everybody that 206 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 6: Duke's touched has been has had a grodery, has had 207 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 6: a lot of good, good camps out here and stuff 208 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 6: like that. But yeah, we'll just said Brian is just 209 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 6: a workout right now, We'll see where we're at real quick. 210 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 5: Miles Sanders, what do we know about Miles Sanders right now? 211 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 8: Miles Sanders is a bone bruise, but nothing considered to 212 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 8: be serious to either. If he misses a couple more practices, 213 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 8: you know, that would probably be to be expected. But 214 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 8: if he's back early too, wouldn't shocked me. So more 215 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 8: reps for Jayden Blue with the ones. 216 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 5: By the way, we're seeing good things. 217 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 7: Yeah, he had he had the run of the day yesterday. 218 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 8: I think you know, when you talk about just cutting, 219 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 8: Jaden Blue is the best cutter as a running back 220 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 8: on this on this team, I think I think you know, 221 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 8: he's just so smooth and can jump around and can 222 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 8: get to two different spots really quick. 223 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 7: And he showed that yesterday. He had the run of 224 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 7: the day when he. 225 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 8: Like a word with you, Yeah, well, Turpan's white, I 226 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 8: would wide receiver. 227 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 3: But you're right about Blue, absolutely right about. 228 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 5: You talk about Turpin. I actually Nick and I were 229 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 5: having this conversation yesterday and I was like, you know, 230 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 5: and we both play fantasy football. I was like, late round. 231 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 7: I don't. 232 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 3: I might. 233 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 5: I might be willing to jump in on Turping in 234 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 5: a late round just because the way they're using him, 235 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 5: like he's getting a lot of opportunities in a lot 236 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 5: of different ways. 237 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 9: Uh. 238 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 5: And if they I mean, we've all we've talked about 239 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 5: on this show, like the talent that you have in 240 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 5: Cavante Turpin. If if the coach really was dedicated to 241 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 5: making sure he's a part of the offense. He could 242 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 5: be a great weapon and one of the best weapons 243 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 5: in the NFL, because we see it out here with 244 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 5: his speed, his shiftiness, like he has those skills where 245 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 5: he can be a problem for teams. And it looks 246 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 5: like from what again, from what we're seeing out here, 247 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 5: it looks like they're going to be dedicated to ensuring 248 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 5: he's gonna be a part of this offense. 249 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 6: When the head coach came out and told you to 250 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 6: the other day that the other the defensive coordinator standing 251 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 6: over there and going, he's not in the game, and 252 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 6: now you send him in. I'll lets you know he's going. 253 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: To use this cat. 254 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, he believes in what they He's. 255 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 6: Going to affect the defensive coordinator that way, he's gonna 256 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 6: use this. 257 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 7: Well, they showed him yesterday. They did. 258 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 8: They did like Dak did a fake toss throwback to 259 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 8: Turpin and they just sent five guys in space. If 260 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 8: you give that guy a convoy and some green grass, 261 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 8: good luck, they can't see him. 262 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 7: Good luck, they can't see him. 263 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: Good luck. 264 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 5: All right, we got to take our first break when 265 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 5: we come back We're going to talk a little bit 266 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 5: about Michael Parsons. There's some news reporting that's out there. 267 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 3: So Jordia, I'd been nice to be with you guys. 268 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 5: Interesting things, yeah, I mean really interesting days. We'll talk 269 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 5: about it in the next segment. 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We're gonna talk about Michael Parsons. 335 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 5: There was some reporting that I don't know it came 336 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 5: out late last night earlier this morning, but there was 337 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 5: reporting that that he was Yeah, sure, Diana and and 338 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 5: I think the the net net of it was that 339 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 5: Micah is at this point considering the possibility of doing 340 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 5: more to kind of exercise whatever leverage you may have, 341 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 5: whether that be requesting a trade. I think it heard 342 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 5: tweet he said something effective of severing his relationship. I'm 343 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 5: not sure what that means. Uh, But what what do 344 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 5: you guys make of all of that as far as 345 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 5: what's being said that Michaeh may be considering relative to 346 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 5: the reality of the situation that he's in. 347 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 6: You know what, Yeah, you just knew that. I hate 348 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 6: every minute of this talking about I was. 349 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 7: I wanted you to talk first. He can get it 350 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 7: out of the way. 351 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: No, I'm fine. 352 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 6: You know, I really do think this is I think 353 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 6: this is really this part of it's kind of difficult 354 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 6: because to me, first off, I don't think the Cowboys 355 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 6: would trade him. I just don't. I don't think if 356 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 6: that's something he's going to request, I don't think the 357 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 6: Cowboys trade him, So let's take that back. The next 358 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 6: thing is, though, you know, you start to talk about 359 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 6: severing ties. The franchise tag was put in place for 360 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 6: a reason, though, and that's too for the lead or 361 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 6: for the teams to have the ability to keep a player, 362 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 6: you know, under contract that they don't want to lose. 363 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: Dallas has got a couple options. 364 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 6: With him, and if you do the math, it's actually 365 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 6: less than what he would make and you know, for 366 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 6: the life of a contract and still have him playing. 367 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 6: What you have to bet on then is then is 368 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 6: mic is going to miss any games? Is he going 369 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 6: to miss game checks? If me looking at this, the 370 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 6: fact that he's doing a hold in right now tells 371 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 6: me he didn't want to get fined fifty thousand dollars 372 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 6: a day. That tells me right there the Michael really 373 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 6: appreciates money, the value of a dollar. He's not going 374 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 6: to let money just go away just for this. The 375 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 6: fact he's here. I know he's frustrated. I know the 376 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 6: Cowboys are frustrated. Hopefully they'll figure this thing out. But 377 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 6: the Cowboys have a lot of leverage here in this 378 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 6: in the way this thing is going to work, And 379 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 6: so to me, the quicker. Maybe that Micah could say, Okay, 380 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 6: let's do this deal, you know, and but the Cowboys 381 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 6: have to be willing to do that too. And I 382 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 6: think there's a lot of that. I think there's some 383 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 6: hurt feelings on both sides. 384 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 3: I really do. 385 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, And you know, there's some like, Okay, I thought 386 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 6: we had something here. I thought we had an agreement, 387 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 6: you know, I thought we you know. I think there's 388 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 6: I think both sides are looking at this like, no, 389 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 6: wait a minute, you should have done this, and you know, 390 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 6: and the other side say, no, you should have done that. 391 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 6: Long way around it, though, the cowboys are holding a 392 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 6: lot of cards here. Yeah, they're holding a lot of 393 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 6: cards here, and it's going to be very difficult for Micah, 394 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 6: I think, to try and get what Diana Rassini tweeted. 395 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 8: Out, you know, I think it's a frustrating situation for everyone. 396 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 7: Right. 397 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 8: The Cowboys don't want to be in this situation. Michael 398 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 8: Park certainly doesn't want to be in this situation. But 399 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 8: at the end of the day, when you're talking about 400 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 8: contract negotiations, leverage is the word. 401 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 7: And Brian you put it perfectly. 402 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 8: The Cowboys have all of the leverage here, and I 403 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 8: think they gained even more leverage when you know, when 404 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 8: we were at the owner's meetings back in March, Jerry 405 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 8: Jones said to us, Mike and I had a handshake deal. 406 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 7: Mike and I had a handshake deal. 407 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 8: And then Michael Parsons comes out a couple months later 408 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 8: and says, well, I want them to call my agent. 409 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 8: And essentially what that's saying is the Cowboys can look 410 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 8: at it and say, we had a deal, and now 411 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 8: we don't have a deal anymore. Why can't why can't 412 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 8: we do what we originally agreed upon? And so that's 413 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 8: that's the complex part, right because if the agent gets 414 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 8: involved from day one, and David mulliged is one of 415 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 8: the best in the game, and I know the Cowboys 416 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 8: have respect for David Mulligeda and that's mutual. Whether or not, 417 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 8: you know, you can throw out there they haven't talked 418 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 8: to David mullageda, you know they have in the past, 419 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 8: and there's respect there. This is just, I really think, 420 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 8: is all just part of playing the game. And I 421 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 8: think Michael Parton is trying to levy some leverage onto 422 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 8: his side, which rightfully so, Michael Parsons is going to 423 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 8: be worth every penny of whatever deal gets done, because 424 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 8: a deal is going to get done. I would be 425 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 8: floored if the Cowboys trade Michael Parsons, that would be 426 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 8: the most shocking thing to ever happen, maybe since the 427 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 8: Luka Doncic trade. 428 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: It would be that level of wow. 429 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 8: I think, maybe even more so, just because when you 430 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 8: have an elite pass rusher, you don't trade them. 431 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 7: You just don't. You just don't. 432 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 8: And Michael Parsons is one of one. What he's been 433 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 8: able to do is unbelievable. So I think this is 434 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 8: really just Michael Parsons trying to get leverage back on 435 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 8: his side because frankly Brian outlined it, Cowboys can franchise 436 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 8: tag him not once, but maybe twice. Basically they are 437 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 8: and they are saving so much money in doing that 438 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 8: that they can use the rest of their cap to 439 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 8: spend around him. Now Michael Parsons obviously should not. You know, 440 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 8: he's thinking about himself. He's trying to gain generational wealth 441 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 8: his family, so you understand that he doesn't want to 442 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 8: do that. But you know, at the same time, I 443 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 8: think this all gets done at some point, and once 444 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 8: it does get done. Everybody's going to be singing Kumbaya 445 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 8: because we have been down this road before. They did 446 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 8: it last year with Ceedee Lamb, they did it with 447 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 8: Dak Prescott, it was Zach Martin, Ezekiel Elliott in the past. Eventually, 448 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 8: something will get done. I think again, this is just 449 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 8: Michael Parson's trying to get some leverage onto his side, 450 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 8: which is the smart thing to do. 451 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 9: Real quick. Since you mentioned the handshake situation several months ago, 452 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 9: let's remember like a handshake doesn't include all the fine 453 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 9: prints and details of a deal, and the reason why 454 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 9: you pay an agent is for that agent to look 455 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 9: out for the best deal that is for you. So 456 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 9: just because Micah and Jerry had that conversation whenever it 457 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 9: happened and shook on, it doesn't necessarily mean that the 458 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 9: agent can't come back afterwards and say, hey, no, actually, 459 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 9: this is what we want and we need And right 460 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 9: now I agree with you guys, like, yeah, the Cowboys 461 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 9: hold all the cards. But at the same time, what 462 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 9: does this situation mean for the team? I mean, you 463 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 9: look at the magazine here, Brian Schottenheimer and Micah Parsons 464 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 9: on there. Yeah, Brian is not the one saying sitting 465 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 9: there he has nothing to do with those negotiating negotiations. 466 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 9: But and we talk about this every year during the season. Yes, 467 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 9: a player is always gonna show up on game day 468 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 9: and play hard, but what does that week look like? 469 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 9: What does your commitment to the team look like? When 470 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 9: those relationships start to get all messed up, and hopefully 471 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 9: they figure this thing out sooner than later. And we 472 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 9: continue to say, so we only have one week where 473 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 9: I have one week here left. They have a week 474 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 9: and have left here in Oxnar. Next thing, you know, 475 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 9: we'll be back at the Stars starting to practice. And 476 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 9: after that things get moving along very very quickly. So 477 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 9: you hope that they can get this thing done soon. 478 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 9: We saw it with Ceedee Lamb and the way that 479 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 9: his body took a little while to get into the 480 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 9: season several weeks. So you hope right off the bat 481 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 9: against Philly that you have in Micah Parsons that is 482 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 9: fully ready to compete. 483 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 6: I'll say this real quick though, Derek, in those other deals, 484 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 6: the other holdouts, we haven't had the back and forth 485 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 6: between the player and the front office like this that 486 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 6: one has. You know what I'm saying that we haven't 487 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 6: mean the CD, I didn't get the feeling that we 488 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 6: were having a lot. 489 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 3: It didn't seem like to me. 490 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 6: With the player actually being here, you kind of get 491 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 6: a little bit more of a sense of the players 492 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 6: actually speaking and talking and you can see body languages and. 493 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:45,959 Speaker 3: Stuff like that. 494 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 6: That's why I think it's been different with this this 495 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 6: negotiation as some of the others, those players chose to 496 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 6: not be here, and he's here, and so now we 497 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 6: have an opportunity to talk to him, but also though 498 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 6: to kind of see the situation. And so I think 499 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 6: that I think both sides have said some things that 500 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 6: have been very very very strong and and and I 501 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 6: think that's been the biggest difference between the other negotiations. 502 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 8: You're right, let me ask you this. Do you feel 503 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 8: like in the other situations the player had more leverage 504 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 8: and maybe that's why. 505 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 3: I man, it's it's yeah. 506 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 6: I mean the thing about it is, it's hard to 507 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 6: say because the whole thing with with CD, right, I mean, 508 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 6: they were really thinking about I mean, what else did 509 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 6: you have it? I wonder if this organizations And I'm sorry, Tom, 510 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 6: I didn't answer your question worth a damn there, but 511 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 6: because I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think about 512 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 6: the leverage situation. But I wonder if this organization is 513 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 6: kind of looking at what Donovan Asako is doing out 514 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 6: here right now and saying, you know what, We've got Fowler, 515 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 6: We've got Ezraku, We've got Neelan. You know, we've got 516 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 6: Sam Williams. Do we do we can? 517 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 3: We can? We play? Can? 518 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 6: You know we're seeing we're see him getting some pass 519 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 6: rush here. So you wonder if is it like me personally, 520 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 6: I said, I just keep saying this, I think they're betting. 521 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 6: I think they're betting on Micah won't miss game checks. 522 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 6: That's my personal view. That's not Dallas Cowboys dot com 523 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 6: view or anything. That's Brian Brodis his personal view. I 524 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 6: just I think they might be betting that he won't 525 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 6: miss those. 526 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 3: And that's where you're gonna come. 527 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 9: In and play different personnel, different coaching, different everything. But 528 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 9: last year we got a taste of a couple of 529 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 9: games where Mica wasn't on the field, and you got 530 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 9: to see. 531 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 3: What that looks like. 532 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 9: He makes presence is on the field. So yes, you 533 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 9: can play a game, but what level are you playing? 534 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 6: Do you figure out? Do you figure out now, Like 535 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 6: you say, is Donovan Ezaraku? Is he one of these 536 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 6: guys that was picked at forty four that should have 537 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 6: been picked at four? 538 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 539 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 6: You know that that's that's kind of should should he 540 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 6: have been picked instead of Carter from Penn State? 541 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 3: Are you know? 542 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 6: I'm just you know what I'm saying. I mean, that's 543 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 6: what we're kind of at right now. There's there's a 544 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 6: lot of things you're thinking, like, Damn, this. 545 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 3: Kid can rush. 546 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 6: I mean, he could legitimly rush and it doesn't matter 547 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 6: who he's rushing against. 548 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 5: But I will say to that point, as good as 549 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 5: he is, imagine how much better he is no question. 550 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 5: And that's the part that I think where. 551 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm worth it. But I'm with you, I'm with you. 552 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 5: You can get all these great players you mentioned. By 553 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 5: the way, this past rush I think is going to 554 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 5: be one of the strengths of the same because they're 555 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 5: good and they're deep. But imagine if whatever however good 556 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 5: they are and however deep they are, if they also 557 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 5: got Michael Parsons as part of that, they are even. 558 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 3: They're so much better. 559 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 6: But you also wonder, though, to me, as I'm like, listen, 560 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 6: maybe maybe we're not in badest shape if he doesn't play. 561 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 5: Now, I get you much better off than you were last. 562 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 3: Year, much better, much better. 563 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 7: No, Sam Williams, no Fouler, No. 564 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 8: I mean it's their deepest position on the roster and 565 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 8: one of their best, deep end best. 566 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 5: So I do think there's something to that. I just 567 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 5: hope at the end of the day, and I keep 568 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 5: saying this, We've been down the road of these standofs. 569 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 5: I even went back to thinking about back in I 570 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 5: think it was ninety three when em It held out 571 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 5: for like the first two weeks of the season and 572 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 5: they went on too and then they somehow the deal 573 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 5: got done and then they were often running right. So 574 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 5: we've seen this happen before. It's a part of the 575 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 5: business of it. You kind of just work through it. 576 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 5: My suspicion is at some point, for all the posturing 577 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 5: and all that, everybody will say they'll get a deal 578 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 5: done and everybody will hug and make up and it'll 579 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 5: be like we love each other. 580 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 7: Yeah. 581 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 5: I think that's what ends up happening. 582 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 7: Ultimately. 583 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 8: I think it's gonna play out similar to how dak 584 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 8: Still played out last year, where I don't think it 585 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 8: gets done while we're here in Oxnard. But when we're 586 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 8: back in Dallas before that Philadelphia game, I think Michael 587 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 8: Parsons get signed. 588 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 7: Well. 589 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 5: I mean what needs to happen ultimately is David Mulgetta 590 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 5: and Jerry and Steven need to get cornered into a 591 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 5: room to where they can't get out, and it's like, hey, guys, 592 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 5: figure it out. And I think that's how sometimes these 593 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 5: things end up working out, as everybody's just committed to Okay, 594 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 5: it's time to do this, and then you figure it out. 595 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 5: Like that's how it always goes when you're talking about negotiations. 596 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 5: Eventually somebody has to be the one to say, Okay, 597 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 5: let's just sit down and forget this out, and then 598 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 5: it gets worked out. We're gonna take our final break 599 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 5: when we come back. I want to talk about some 600 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 5: of your camp observations, what you've seen out here the 601 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 5: last couple practices. 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I want you to tell me about a 663 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 5: moment that you noticed, and then tell me about a 664 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 5: player that's standing out to you. And let's go. Let's 665 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 5: start with you. 666 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 8: Tommy Dak Prescott had his best day yesterday, I think 667 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 8: of Camp. Threw the ball really well, still missed a 668 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 8: couple of reads and throws. And he mentioned that kind 669 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 8: of yesterday when he was talking to reporters but at 670 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 8: the same time, easily his best day. George Pickens had 671 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 8: I think three touchdowns from Prescott, the last one, you know, 672 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 8: you just kind of see the athleticism and the ball 673 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 8: skills and what he can do in the air, body control, 674 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 8: and just a really good day for those two to connect. 675 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 8: I'll say that was my moment, was that Pickings touchdown. 676 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 8: And then the player that stot out to me absolutely 677 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 8: was Dak Prescott. He was dialed in yesterday. 678 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 6: I think, to me, my first moment, you know me, 679 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 6: I love a good screen game, right, I'm all about 680 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 6: the screen game. 681 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 3: We talked about it earlier. 682 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 6: They had to throw back screen where it went full 683 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 6: flow going to the right and they drew the defense 684 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 6: and next thing you know, we got a wall of 685 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 6: blockers out in front and the throwing the ball. I 686 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 6: love the I love the fact that this coaching staff 687 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 6: is trying to do stuff not only with the quick screens, 688 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 6: with the slots and stuff, but also throwing that to 689 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 6: Turp in the backside of the backfield. I you know, 690 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 6: when you get full flow and you get everybody moving 691 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 6: and then the ball comes. Now you've got a convoy 692 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 6: of people leading you up the sidelines, and I just 693 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 6: love the coordination of that. So anything to do with 694 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 6: you know that that type of that they can. 695 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 3: Throw defenses off. 696 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 6: They're going to rush that rush and they're rushing and 697 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 6: now you've got a screen game that you know, Dak 698 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 6: did a really nice job of selling it. So that's 699 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 6: kind of my moment of the day. I'm going to 700 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 6: talk about a rookie wide receiver and tray Shawn Holden. 701 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 6: And it usually sometimes you get a receiver that they'll 702 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 6: have an all training camp type practice. 703 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 3: You know, we've we've had this. 704 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 6: It's legendary that the we used to have the all 705 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 6: value and we used to have all you know, we 706 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 6: used to have all these but Trashaun Holden is and 707 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 6: I've been really impressed because it's real easy to kind 708 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 6: of get lost in what's going on with Pickens and 709 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 6: Lamb and Turpin and a little bit now with Mingo 710 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 6: and Tolbert. I'll say this though, with Holden, he has 711 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 6: shown up when they've thrown him the football, whether it's 712 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 6: inside stuff, up the field stuff he can't the back 713 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 6: of the end zone stuff, He's been able to make 714 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 6: some really awesome catches. Adjusting along the way he's probably 715 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 6: not the best separator when it comes to running routes 716 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 6: and stuff, and he finds the ways. But when he 717 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 6: gets the ball in his area, the guy's coming down 718 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 6: with the ball. So tip the cap to him. And 719 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 6: this has been kind of. 720 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 3: A difficult group because we focus on the top four 721 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 3: or five. 722 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 6: But he's making that push, Like if this team does 723 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 6: keep a sixth wide receiver, would they in fact, would 724 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 6: he be that guy? But guys like Brooks others they've shown. 725 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 6: But give a tip of the cap to the rookie 726 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 6: for making some place here the last. 727 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 3: Couple of days. 728 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's that was my guy as well. I mean 729 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 9: he's a guy that you didn't really know much about. Yeah, 730 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 9: and then you start saying, oh, number seven, not Treveon Dix, 731 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 9: by the way, obviously he's wearing the white jersey, but 732 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 9: seven seven, Oh there's seven again? Wait, who made that guy? 733 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 6: Oh? 734 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 9: Seven? So there's no way to avoid him. He's been 735 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 9: catching your eyes and is one of those you're getting 736 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 9: to that point where you have to learn the name 737 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 9: keep an eye. And I'm trying not to get to 738 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 9: to excited because we always see a guy like that 739 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 9: that things out here every single day and then your 740 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 9: oh sorry, your expectations rise and you start expecting, oh, 741 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 9: this awesome moment, and then it doesn't pan out to 742 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 9: be that way. But also at the same time, you 743 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 9: gotta get credit with credit is due and earn, and 744 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 9: he's earned that and he's been doing a so I'm 745 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 9: excited and wonder how he would fit in, how do 746 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 9: they keep him and how much would they play him 747 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 9: in the preseason. As far as a moment, and I 748 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 9: don't mean to make this a bad thing because it's 749 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 9: been exciting, but every time before practice, while they're warming up, 750 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 9: you always see some little gimmick going on, some fun 751 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 9: little activity with the coaches, and yesterday yes Rowdy was 752 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 9: out there doing drills, you know, warming up with the guys, 753 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 9: and it's fun. It gets you excited, pumped up. But 754 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,239 Speaker 9: my question to you guys is, as we continue to 755 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 9: post these things on social media and then you get 756 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 9: the fans starting to look at that and the criticism 757 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,239 Speaker 9: and then tie that into every little bad news that 758 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 9: comes out as far as injuries later on or whatever. 759 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 9: But as far as these warm ups and excitement, do 760 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 9: you guys, how do you how are you guys taking 761 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 9: this do you guys like it or are you at 762 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 9: that point where you're like, Okay, let's focus on football now. 763 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 5: That's a deal with anything that happens out here, that 764 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 5: or anything else. I'm always of the belief that I'm 765 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 5: never going to prejudge how effective a specific method or 766 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 5: a thing that a coach wants to do is or 767 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 5: is not. What I want to see at the end 768 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 5: of the day is what is the result. If, as 769 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 5: we've said, they've had practices that we feel like are energetic. 770 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 5: It's the one thing you hear from everybody that if 771 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 5: you ask him, what do you think of training camp 772 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 5: this year? One thing I hear consistently from people, and 773 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 5: what I've seen consistent energy is the energy's up. If 774 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 5: that's the kind of thing that the coach believes gets 775 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 5: the energy up, then great, I could care less, And 776 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 5: I don't think that the coach should be concerned about 777 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 5: what people detractors might say about it if he's getting 778 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 5: the result that he wants to get. And then ultimately 779 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 5: all of it still comes back to as you get 780 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 5: into the season, are you winning games? 781 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 3: Great? 782 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, have a rowdy on a surfboard and surfing through 783 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 5: practice like whatever, you want to do. As long as 784 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 5: you're winning games, great, keep it going. If you're not winning, 785 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 5: that's when I think you have to kind of re 786 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 5: evaluate and say, are you distracted those other things that 787 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 5: you would say as a detractor. I think all those 788 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 5: things become fair if they ultimately don't lead to winning, 789 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 5: because winning is what it's a bottom line business. If 790 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 5: you're winning, great, If you're not, you better change some 791 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 5: things up. 792 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. 793 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 6: I've yet to get used to the music going the 794 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 6: whole time. 795 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean through all these practice, all these practices. 796 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 6: I think we're eight practices through now, and I just 797 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 6: I haven't got used to that because I'm used to 798 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 6: hearing coaching and I'm used to hearing communication. 799 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 3: And I'm used to hearing. But hey, if like you said, 800 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 3: it's gonna be. 801 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 6: All about winning, if it's winning, there'll be more people 802 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 6: that won't be doing nine on seven, and there'll be 803 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 6: more people doing more team stuff, and there'll be more 804 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 6: music playing the whole practice. It's not because I'm an 805 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 6: old guy or something. 806 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 7: It's just something you just, Oh, it's different. 807 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 6: It's differ because you are You're used to the players 808 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 6: making checks and you can hear it and you can 809 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 6: hear the coaches coaching the players, and. 810 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 3: That's that's what I always got out of that. 811 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 6: But it kind of men some one guy real quick too. 812 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 6: But uh, give you to those Christian Matthew and he 813 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 6: the cornerback. 814 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, he had running Yesterday's. 815 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 6: Actually had a couple of good days where all of 816 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 6: a sudden he gets off the bus and now he's 817 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 6: making plays, you know in a secondary that kind of 818 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 6: needs some corner help and you're thinking, can't body guy 819 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 6: and all that, But thirty seven Christian Matthew, really nice 820 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 6: job at him the last couple of days, getting in 821 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,720 Speaker 6: the way, you know, being in coverage knocking the ball down, 822 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 6: you know, knocking another ball down, but being around coming 823 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 6: up and tackling coming and forcing and sometimes you get 824 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 6: guys to come off the street and it takes them 825 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 6: forever to kind of in in there like just a 826 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 6: camp guy. Then this guy looks like he's got a 827 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 6: little feel for how to play the game. So I 828 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 6: just want to point him out as well. 829 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 5: I will also throw out one observation and you talked 830 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 5: about it a little bit, Tommy, Uh, how you you start. 831 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 5: Dak had a great day yesterday as a part of that. 832 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 5: One thing we saw yesterday I think that we hadn't 833 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 5: really seen in the in the at the level that 834 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 5: we saw yesterday was a deep ball. 835 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 836 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 5: I mean it was like every other play downfield, downfield, 837 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 5: turpid downfield, pickings downfield, CD downfield, and they were and 838 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 5: they were connecting on a lot of them. The guys 839 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 5: were getting open, that's a part of it, but they 840 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 5: certainly were connecting on those. And that's where I think 841 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 5: this offense can become extremely dangerous because if they are 842 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 5: gonna be as as the coach talks about it, if 843 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 5: they are going to find a way to establish that 844 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 5: they are a physical run, power run team, and then 845 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 5: they have all these weapons that you can't double everybody, 846 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 5: and those guys are taking shots downfield after a defense 847 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 5: is thinking, we gotta we gotta press up to the 848 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 5: line of scrimmage to stop this run. We gotta press 849 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 5: up to and then you create those opportunities man the 850 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 5: man coverage. That's where this offense gets really dangerous. I 851 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 5: was excited to see that. I think that could be 852 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 5: a really really big thing for this officer. 853 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,439 Speaker 8: And what's going to be really big is the play 854 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 8: action game, right that's where Dak Prescott. 855 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 7: Statistically has been his best over his career. 856 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 8: The play action deep ball to George Pickens, and you know, 857 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 8: that's just a flash of what you can have. And 858 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 8: you know Brian Schanheimer and said, hey, we're gonna work 859 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 8: up to We're gonna work up to these deep balls, right, 860 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 8: We're gonna try to avoid all this soft tissue stuff. 861 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 8: We're gonna get these guys' legs under him. 862 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 7: Now they're getting their legs under him. 863 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,760 Speaker 8: Seeney Lamb on one O five through the Fan yesterday 864 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 8: was saying it usually takes about two weeks for you 865 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 8: to feel kind of game ready. I'm not I don't 866 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 8: think that's exactly what he said. I'll just paraphrase, but 867 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 8: Dak Prescott said the same thing yesterday. Right around that 868 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 8: time is when you start to feel like, Okay, I 869 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 8: can probably go out and play a game now. So 870 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 8: it makes sense that now is when we're starting to 871 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,919 Speaker 8: see this deep ball kind of ingrained in and even 872 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 8: in one on ones. I understand this one on one, 873 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 8: not eleven on eleven, but those first three guys, you know, Lamb, 874 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 8: Pickens and Mingo, first three plays all one I think 875 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 8: Seeney Lamb flashed the great late hands you know, elverdron 876 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 8: Bland plan with good coverage and Lamb just track track track, 877 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 8: and then as soon as the ball there, extends his 878 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 8: hands and gets it and then pickens. I mean, you 879 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 8: know we've seen it in his whole career. 880 00:38:59,160 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 7: He's a deep po. 881 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,359 Speaker 8: Red zone is like he could be a problem for Yeah, 882 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 8: it's gonna it's gonna be a problem. And I think 883 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 8: he moves a lot better than people give him credit for. 884 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 8: Much better guy, much better after the catch too than 885 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 8: a lot of people give him credit for. 886 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 7: I've been harping on that. 887 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 8: So, yeah, this is gonna be a good If they 888 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 8: can get the deep ball, it's going to greatly boost 889 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 8: their off I know that's pretty easy to say, right 890 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 8: if you can connect on the deep ball. But now 891 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 8: they have another guy aside from seedy Lamb who can 892 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 8: go and get it downfield too. 893 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 5: I want to flip this conversation before we end the show. 894 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 5: I want each you to tell me a player, one 895 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 5: player that you think really needs a good day out here, 896 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 5: haven't really shown a lot or or hasn't shown good things. 897 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 5: A guy that you feel like he needs he's due 898 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 5: for a really good day to kind of get him 899 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 5: back in the mix. 900 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 8: Jalen Tolbert, I think he's had a couple of rough days. 901 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 8: And Mingo, Jonathan Mingo is putting together a really good camp. 902 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 8: Absolutely so I understand seven receiving touchdowns on the team 903 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 8: last year, but Jalen Tolbert had some rough days. 904 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 7: He could use a bounce back. 905 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 9: H Let's see. I would I would say we talked 906 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 9: about him a couple of weeks ago, lip Key, hun 907 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 9: Her Lipkey. I would expect him to be doing a 908 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 9: lot more by now. Sorry, with what was said at 909 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,959 Speaker 9: the beginning of camp, him being specific named that Brian 910 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 9: Schottenheimer mentioned a guy that we've seen him have the 911 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,720 Speaker 9: talent and the capability to be useful on the team 912 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 9: and be a weapon, I feel like I would like 913 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 9: to see more. Like I think he's starting to kind 914 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 9: of disappear in the shadows a little bit and I'm 915 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 9: seeing at the time, you know, it's always you get 916 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 9: to see a lot of Deucevong and now he's recovering 917 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 9: and all that. But he's a guy that I want 918 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 9: him to take a step forward and see doing a 919 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 9: lot more on the field. 920 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,879 Speaker 6: I kind of feel like the John Stevens has lost 921 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 6: a little steam and uh, you know these with span 922 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 6: Ford being out, Stevens has gotten more opportunity. He's again, 923 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 6: he's two years, two knee surgeries. He's wearing a knee 924 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 6: brace on the left knee. It's not a bulky one. 925 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 6: It's kind of a lightweight one. And he's doing the 926 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 6: best he can and they're having him get involved in 927 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 6: some stuff. He's playing, is the move guy, the inside 928 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 6: blocker down the field, things like that. 929 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 3: He had a he's had a couple of drops. 930 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 6: The Tolbert one, by the way, was really really good, Tommy, 931 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 6: that was that one he needs to have. 932 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 3: But if you look at overall though. 933 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 6: Too, John Stevens is not having the type of camp 934 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 6: that we've seen John Stevens in the past. 935 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 3: Half. 936 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was I saw one of the drops he 937 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 5: had yesterday and I was watching. I was just thinking, man, 938 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 5: that's that's the catch. Last year before last, before he 939 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 5: got hurt, he would have easily made. And I just 940 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 5: wonder if some of this is just the confidence in 941 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 5: the in the injury and kind of just you know, 942 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 5: it takes a little bit, takes some time and get 943 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 5: yourself back right even though there. Yeah, and you wonder, 944 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 5: like how how much that factors in when he's gotten 945 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 5: hurt out here twice? Yeah, And does that does that 946 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 5: play into it where he's worried about that? You know, 947 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 5: I don't know that. I haven't talked to him about that, 948 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 5: but I just wonder if that's a part of it. 949 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 8: Doesn't look like he's very confident both on the field 950 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 8: and in his in his knee, and that's that's a 951 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 8: tough part. 952 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 7: I think. 953 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 8: You know, something that we don't talk about enough in 954 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 8: the media is the mental block that guys have to 955 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,280 Speaker 8: overcome when they have a major knee injury, like Trayvon 956 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 8: Diggs is going to have to go through. It's I 957 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 8: ohone revel is gonna have to go through trust and 958 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 8: being able to trust your knee again after incurring one 959 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 8: of the most brutal injuries in sports. 960 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 7: It's tough. 961 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,320 Speaker 8: It's really tough, and we've seen it, you know, affect 962 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,280 Speaker 8: a lot of guys over the years who were stars 963 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,839 Speaker 8: before they got hurt and then afterwards we're just never 964 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,280 Speaker 8: the same. That's not to say you can't be the same, 965 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 8: but there's a mental aspect to this that is very 966 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 8: important and I don't think we talk about it enough. 967 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 3: All right, that's a wrap. 968 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 5: We will be back with you guys next week. We'll 969 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 5: be on on Tuesday. Brian heading back to Dallas. You 970 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 5: have any pardon words, anything you want to come through? 971 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 3: Man, you know what, I will say this quickly. If 972 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 3: I can't, you know me, I never can't. I think 973 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 3: the practices have been super competitive. 974 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 6: I love the aspect where there is a win on 975 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 6: offense and then the very next play there's a knock, 976 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 6: a fumble, or there's an interception or there's a sack. 977 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 3: I love the fact that this practice has been very competitive, 978 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 3: but it's had balance to it. 979 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not one side, it's just kicking the other 980 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 6: side's ass, and I think that bodes very well for 981 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 6: the style, the way he practices, the players buying into 982 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:26,760 Speaker 6: the practice. 983 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 3: Every player that we've talked to. 984 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 6: Has been very complimentary of that aspect of the practice 985 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 6: and how they're able to get work. But man, the 986 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 6: balance of the practice has been very, very very good. 987 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 7: I agree. 988 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 3: All right, that's a wrap. 989 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 5: We'll be back next week till Amber Garcia, Tommy Yurs. 990 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 5: I'm Derek Eagleton, This has been The Break live on 991 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 992 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 993 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.