1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: My sister's affair is getting out of hand. She's begging 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: me not to tell her husband, but I don't care. 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: Am I the a whole? Ooh? 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 3: The question is do I tell the husband? 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: Yes? Do I rock with my fam? I'm blood. 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 3: The repercussions of you telling the husband could damage like 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 3: your sister's relationship forever. But I would encourage her to 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 3: tell the truth. 9 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, But do we need to make an ultimatum? 10 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 3: Ooh? An ultimatum? Ultimatums are the sign of a great relationship. 11 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: I've heard always, I hear that's how you start of 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 3: better things. 13 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 2: That's right. Ultimatums your way forward. 14 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, ultimatums. If you haven't tried it, you don't love 15 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: your partner enough. 16 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: Boom. 17 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: Well let's see if we got one in this story, 18 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: I female thirty, caught my sister, female forty, cheating on 19 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: her husband, male forty nine with a guy male forty. 20 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: So this might complicate it way more. 21 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: That's double damage because you're seeing your sister get boned 22 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 3: and you're seeing your sister cheat on your husband. Just 23 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: bleach my eyes at that point. 24 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: Right, I was shocked because my sister and her husband 25 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: are the epitome for love that never dies. Literally, they 26 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: have been together for fifteen years and they still look 27 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: so much in love the way they treat each other. 28 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: I felt anger and despair because I love my brother 29 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: in law as a big brother, and he has been 30 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: there for my sister when she has been at her 31 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: worst mentally. He was there taking care of her without 32 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: ever once complaining. 33 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: This is so rough, dude, tough, fucking rough and tough 34 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 3: and humble. 35 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: Now that I found out, I confronted her and she 36 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: tried to deny it. I told her that she was 37 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: pathetic and now I hope she's happy with herself. After 38 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: her husband nursed her back to health, she is paying 39 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: him back with cheating on him. Not the best way 40 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: to pay someone back. 41 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, well maybe she is like now that I'm 42 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: better and was so close to I don't know, a 43 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: mental breakdown on her death. Now I really want to 44 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: live life. Yeah, to the fullest, Well, the fullest. I 45 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 3: got all those dick and downs. 46 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: Right, every dong this side of the Mississippi. 47 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel bad for the husband, so do I. 48 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: No good deed goes unpunished. 49 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: That's right. 50 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: I told her I was going to expose her, and 51 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: she was begging me and crying, telling me I didn't understand. 52 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: She's like, I already exposed myself to you. Did he 53 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 3: expose me? More? 54 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 2: Right? 55 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: I can't handle double triple exposure? My god, please don't 56 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: hurt us. You will be hurting my husband more than 57 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: you hurt me. 58 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: It's the truth and like. 59 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: No hiss, Like her husband will definitely be hurt. 60 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: But should he continue to live a lie? Red pill, 61 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: blue pill? 62 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? 63 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: I think it's just like, is it ultimately up to 64 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 3: you to put yourself in that relationship? I think it 65 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: depends on how close he is to the brother. Like, 66 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: if it's like a really good friend, then maybe like 67 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 3: because of that friendship, he owes it to the friend. 68 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: It's female. By the way, op is female? 69 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 3: Oh, Opie is female? 70 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 71 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, then I think OP sees her friendship with the 72 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: brother in law is significant. Then I think it makes 73 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 3: sense to tell him. 74 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, it's kind of tough because even if it's 75 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: not there, does the partner generally deserve to kind of 76 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: just like no know the truth essentially is happening? 77 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: Right? 78 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: I think I think yes, Like I would want to 79 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: know the truth. 80 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think the question is like how 81 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: do you go about it? And like, obviously if someone 82 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: refuses to tell, it kind of gets to that point 83 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: where it's like either you're telling them or I'm telling them. 84 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: Yeah right, so it's best coming from the partner. 85 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: Yes, hundred percent. 86 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. After a few days, she asked to meet me. 87 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: She looked like she was crying the whole time. She 88 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: told me that she had been keeping her husband's secret, 89 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: but she wanted to tell me and made me promise 90 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: not to tell anyone. Her husband is impotent and he 91 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: hasn't slept with her the majority of their relationship. Oh 92 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: that's rough. 93 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: I didn't believe her. 94 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: So she showed me all the text and emails she 95 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: had with her husband and her therapist and her diary. 96 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: He hasn't touched her for almost twelve years. 97 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: What whoa? 98 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: And also, just to be super clear, impotent to me 99 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: means like he literally like can't get it so, like 100 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: can't get it up at all. 101 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, there we go. 102 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: Well, what are the other erections? A platonic erection. 103 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I have for this twitch girl, an 104 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 3: intellectual erection, an intellectual direction. Her depression was because of it, 105 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: and her back to health was because of this new guy. Okay, 106 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: so her kind of like coming out of this like 107 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: recent mental health crisis was this person that she's now 108 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: sleeping with. 109 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: Apparently. 110 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: She said that since she started sleeping with him, she 111 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: has been happier, and by extension, her marriage and husband 112 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: have been happier. I asked her why she doesn't just 113 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: tell her husband. She said that she couldn't because she 114 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: loves him and she couldn't hurt him. She's afraid he 115 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: would be so lonely without her, because he always said 116 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: he had no one else in this world and he 117 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: would die without her. 118 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: Oh wow, Well, I mean, like, if you can't fulfill 119 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 3: your partner's sexual desires, that I think is a issue 120 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: in a relationship, and like the answer isn't cheating. The 121 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 3: answer is talking about it and like setting up a 122 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: situation that works for you both. If they haven't touched 123 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: each other in twelve years, you know, like you gotta 124 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: get dicked down, Like like that's just that is a 125 00:05:55,200 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: human right in a relationship. And so brother, hey, and 126 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: so like, I don't know I feel for her, but 127 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: how she went about it is wrong. She should have 128 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: told her. 129 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: Husband one hundred percent like I think it's, you know, sex, 130 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: like any other part of a relationship is a component 131 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: that both parts. Like if someone's unsatisfied, it's like, okay, 132 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: let's come together, like how can we work this out? 133 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: What kind of you know, resolutions can we do? And 134 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: it also sounds like the brother in law, I mean 135 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: maybe they're going through I don't know if they're going 136 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: through therapy, but like it sounds like he could use 137 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: professional talk to like saying he doesn't see a world 138 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: without her. 139 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 2: You know, that's very bad. 140 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, I mean, I think she just needs 141 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: to be just talked about it. And the tricky part 142 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: is like she should have done it before she like 143 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: took the action of cheating on him, because that's what's 144 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 3: going to hurt. It's not necessarily the act of like 145 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: having sex with someone else. It is breaking the trust 146 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: in the relationship. That's like the real hard part, one 147 00:06:59,040 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: million percent. 148 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 1: She says, don't you see that we are all happy, 149 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: Please don't hurt us. Now about the guy she met 150 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: him through work and actually he is kind of a 151 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: famous entrepreneur in our city. Hmm, Riley, as we're reading, 152 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: maybe you could see if anyone's ah doc. 153 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: He's a famous entrepreneur in our famous impotent noodle. 154 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh god, she showed me texts, et cetera. 155 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: He is also married, but he has three children. 156 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: Oh the guy that she's hooking up with the affair, ah. 157 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 3: Damn, that's even more difficult. 158 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 4: He's like got it all, dude, rock Hard company and 159 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 4: a Rockhart dong. Yeah, his bank account and his penis 160 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 4: is full, and he has the same problem with his 161 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 4: sexless marriage. 162 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: Yesterday she asked me to meet her. She was with 163 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: him the audacity. 164 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: Whoa oh, bit's. 165 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: Bringing everyone to the gunfight. But I don't know. I think, well, 166 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: she should again say that she's going to bring him beforehand. 167 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it makes sense for them all 168 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: to talk. 169 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: It like, all of this could have the action she 170 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: took could have been okay if she like brought the. 171 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: Things properly, like tap debt, you know, got. 172 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: Agreement and consensus with everyone. She looked totally broken, and 173 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: he looked smug and angry, and he didn't even want 174 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: to look at me. She asked me to think of 175 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: all the people that would be hurt if this came out, 176 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: and she said that they will end their affair and 177 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: promise never to do it again. He got upset and said, 178 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: or we could just tell everyone and stop hiding, and 179 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: then she got angry and told him she shut up. 180 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 3: I think that's a great solution. I mean, I think 181 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: that's what you should do. That is the right thing 182 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: to do. 183 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: Literally, what do we have left, Like, you've already broken 184 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: the trust of cheating. You might as well be honest 185 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: from this point on out, exactly, Yeah, and maybe come 186 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: to the conclusions you should have come to. 187 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: But though I don't know what to do. 188 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: She said that she kept her husband's secret because he 189 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: is embarrassed and he is very possessive and jealous. I 190 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: have noticed that he is the jealous type. So he 191 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: didn't agree to an open marriage. 192 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: Oh so she already talked about it, and he's like, no, 193 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 3: I don't want an open marriage. 194 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 2: Yes, I think you're it. 195 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: Doesn't say that super super explicit, but yeah, I was like, 196 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: was it he doesn't like it in general? 197 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think you're right. I think they've already discussed, right, dud. 198 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: She swore it was over with this other guy too, 199 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: and showed me texts where they had a huge fight 200 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: because he actually thinks I should tell her husband so 201 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 1: they could be together, but I don't know. He has 202 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: given her a Cardia Love ring that she still has, Riley, 203 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: can you look up how much Cardia Love rings are? 204 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like really it's an expensive brand, right? 205 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure super expensive. 206 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 5: Uh I'm seeing like twelve hundred Come on. 207 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that seems that seems low. It means thousands of dollars. 208 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: I guess it depends on what. Okay, hasn't it but. 209 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, okay, so there's one Rose Gold diamonds. It's 210 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 5: like seventy two hundredesh. 211 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: Thousands of dollars for sure, at least at least and 212 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: that ring she still had on When I confronted her, 213 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: she said she couldn't throw an expensive ring away, but 214 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: that she will donate it. She wears it in a 215 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: chain underneath her clothes. I'm sorry this is getting long, 216 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: but I wanted to include all the details. Hope you 217 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: can give me an honest gestion. She's wearing the affair 218 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: ring currently. Yes, that's crazy. 219 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 2: She doesn't want to throw it away, like donate it? 220 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 2: Then donate it. 221 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I'm sure, I put it here in a box. 222 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 3: Don't flaunt it and wear it. That's crazy. 223 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, don't wear it. That's the big thing. 224 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, would I be the asshole if I told my 225 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: sister's husband. I think this whole thing is wrong and 226 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: the cheated parties need to know the truth. 227 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 2: But it will hurt the brother in law. 228 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 3: So does it hurt him more to not know? 229 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: I think the big thing that's standing out to me 230 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: here is there's still the unresolved issue of like the 231 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: brothers saying that, like, you know, I don't know if 232 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: I can, you know, live without you in my life. 233 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: That's something that I feel like he needs to see 234 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: a mental health professional skate. 235 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 3: Like it's like like if OP tells the guy, will 236 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 3: he like endanger his life? You know? Is that a possibility? 237 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: I think if OP thinks that's a possibility, then he 238 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 3: probably shouldn't. 239 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 240 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 3: Fuck, that's this is hard. 241 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is a tough one. 242 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 3: Because I think the right thing to do is to 243 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 3: tell the brother in law for sure. 244 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it is it is tough. And also think 245 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: about this from the Devil's Advocate POV. If they live 246 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: their lives for the rest of their lives and the 247 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: brother in law never found out, not that that should happen. 248 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: I don't think that should happen, but like it's a 249 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: interesting what if scenario. 250 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 3: You know, but it's like, are you comfortable living a lie? 251 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: Are you comfortable living a lie? Could you take that 252 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: all the way to your grave? 253 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 3: And it's ope comfortable, you know, like living with that 254 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 3: knowledge forever. 255 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't think that Op's sister deserves to 256 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: have to go through this like life, you know, of 257 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: like never being able to be intimate ever again. 258 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, you know, like you. 259 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: Have to bring it up to the partner. 260 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 3: It feels like the relationship is just like what doesn't work? Yeah, 261 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: that's exactly what it feels like. I think Ope should 262 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 3: tell the brother in law. 263 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 264 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: If I was a brother in law, I would want 265 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 3: to know. 266 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: Yes, I think it is good to ultimately know the truth. 267 00:12:55,360 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: And like as much as OP can muster, trying to 268 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: get them into counseling or something like that would be 269 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: very good. 270 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 2: I think. 271 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's an update. 272 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: I just want to come on here and update everyone 273 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 2: that I told my brother in law about the affair. 274 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 3: Whooh, Okay. I think that's the right thing to do. 275 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 3: I think that's right thing to do. I think so, 276 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 3: and I think now it's like, are you ready to 277 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: deal with the fallout? I have read all of your comments, 278 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: and thank you very much for the insight. I had 279 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 3: to do what would make me sleep at night. I 280 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 3: love my sister, but she must have known that I 281 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 3: couldn't just live with the guilt. I have been cheated 282 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: on by someone I loved, and I know how shitty 283 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: and selfish you must be to cheat. I also know 284 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: that if I could do it again, I would want 285 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: to know this time too, because while the pain was enormous, 286 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 3: I still feel lucky now that I found out. My 287 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: sister has called me like twenty times, but I didn't answer. 288 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 3: She texted me, do you feel any better right now? 289 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 3: How could you do this to me? I loved you. 290 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 3: You ruined my life, girl, I mean, you ruined your 291 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 3: own life by cheating. 292 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: By not but you could have brought this to the forefront. 293 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 3: You know you're not taking responsibility for your actions right now? 294 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 295 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, in this instance, one hundred percent. I didn't want 296 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: to answer her. I wanted to answer her that she 297 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: was the one who ruined her life, but I didn't 298 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: answer her. My parents are shocked and angry, but not 299 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,239 Speaker 1: with me. Brother in law called and told them everything, 300 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: and he talked about plans that maybe my sister and 301 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: he will move back to his homestown. He is devastated 302 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: and broken. I hope they can move on from this 303 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: together or separately, it doesn't matter, but that they move 304 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: on and find real happiness and not at the cost 305 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: of other people. Like it is right now, So there 306 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: is a final update. I think op did the right thing. 307 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: I think op did the right thing the brother in law. 308 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: It's like, let's move away from all of this craziness 309 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: and try to start fresh. But I'm curious to hear, 310 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: like what happens to them next. 311 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: Do you think OPI should bow out at this point? 312 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't like unless the brother in law 313 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 3: need some advice, but I don't think right. Yeah, I 314 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: don't think there's anything Opine needs to do. 315 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: Well, let's see what Opie does. 316 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: Update. 317 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm still giving a lot of messages about an update 318 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: on my sister in her situation. I thank you for 319 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: being so sympathetic and worried about my sister. I might 320 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: have painted my brother in law to be abusive to 321 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: my sister, and I regret that I just wanted to 322 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: be transparent as I could, because they're not here to 323 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: tell their side of the story, so I was trying 324 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: to do my best to take in my sister and 325 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: her husband's POV. 326 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: They are fine. My brother in law is very. 327 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: Hurt and destroyed, but he assured me that he wasn't 328 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: angry with me and that I did the right thing. 329 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: Truth hurt sometimes is what he said. He's planning on 330 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: taking a break from his work and maybe going back 331 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: home for a while. My sister is fine and not hurt. 332 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: She doesn't talk to me, and I get that, but 333 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: she is not harmed in any way more than her heart. 334 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: But let's face it, it was her own doing, and 335 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: I think she knows that because that's what she told 336 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: my parents. Her husband suggested that they move back to 337 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: his hometown because I don't think he can trust her 338 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: staying in the same city as her lover, and as 339 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: he said, he can't follow and spy on her all 340 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: his life, but he is willing to forgive her because 341 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: he loves her. 342 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: My parents are very angry with my sister. They're not 343 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: angry with me. However. 344 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: The only thing they thought I could have done right differently, 345 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: is that I should have told them before I told 346 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: my brother in law, because then they would have had 347 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: their own way to make my sister admit what she's 348 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: done to her husband. At least it would have come 349 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: from her. But can you really expect op to think that, like, oh, 350 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: my parents will. 351 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: Be able to get my sister to tell the truth. 352 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 3: I might have to revise my previous answer, but let's 353 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 3: finish up. But I have some thoughts. 354 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: Okay. 355 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: As for her lover, I didn't know he was married, 356 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: as I said my previous post. I don't have the details, 357 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: but I know that my brother in law has texted 358 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: him and told him to keep away from his wife. 359 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: I have been on both his and his wife's Instagram accounts, 360 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: and it seems like the wife knows now. I don't 361 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: know if she'll take him back or not. With the 362 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: way that he acted the way he acted on our meeting, 363 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: he didn't seem to care either way. Boy, I hope 364 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a prenup and she takes him for 365 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: all he's got. 366 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 4: SHH. 367 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: That's all for today. 368 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: I won't be making these frequent updates. If anything of 369 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: significance happens, I'll be updating it in the future, but 370 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: right now I'm logging off. 371 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 3: I was thinking while you were reading, like, if I've 372 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 3: caught my sister cheating on her husband or boyfriend or something, 373 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 3: would I go in and like say something. I would 374 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 3: definitely say something to her. I don't know. It would 375 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: really depend on how close I was with the brother 376 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 3: in law. Like I think if I was super close, 377 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 3: then I would feel a duty as like because of 378 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: that relationship. But if it was like someone like I 379 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: kind of knew or whatever, or I wasn't like hanging 380 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 3: out with him all the time or like it it 381 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 3: was more like I see you at family events, I 382 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 3: probably just would have encouraged my sister to tell the truth. 383 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 3: But I wouldn't have butt in into that relationship because 384 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, who am I to know all the complexities 385 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 3: of the relationship. So basically it's like, depending on how 386 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 3: close the relationship was, like that I had with a 387 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 3: brother in law. If it was really close, I would 388 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 3: say something. If it wasn't, I would just encourage my 389 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 3: sister to say something. 390 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's the challenge then becomes what if the. 391 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 3: Person, Yeah, if the outright refuse, Like if I don't 392 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 3: really know the brother in law. Well, then I probably 393 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 3: wouldn't say anything because I'm like, you know, who am 394 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 3: I to butt into this relationship? You know, Like for example, 395 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,719 Speaker 3: like a loose friend, he was in a relationship and 396 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 3: like he cheated on his girlfriend and I was like, like, 397 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 3: I saw that it happened, bro, like you should really 398 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 3: come clean about this and say something. But I'm not, Like, 399 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: I don't know his significant other, so I'm not going 400 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 3: to go and necessarily like call her because I don't 401 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 3: think that's my place because I don't have the text 402 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 3: on the relationship. Yeah, and so I don't think it's 403 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 3: necessarily my place unless I have my own relationship with 404 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 3: that person. But yeah, otherwise, like it feels like I'm 405 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 3: getting involved in things that don't really have much to 406 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 3: do with me. 407 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely think there's like there's like a line 408 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: where it's like okay, if you or you barely even 409 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: know both of the people and have almost no connection 410 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: and then you find out it's like okay, well, like 411 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: you know, so where where is that line? 412 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 2: I guess is the question? 413 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm curious for everyone watching right now, like a, 414 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: what do you think that line is? And b have 415 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: you kind of come across your own scenario kind of 416 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: similar where you're like should I be the one to 417 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: bring it or not? One thing I will say from 418 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: earlier in the story, I don't think OPI's wrong for 419 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: not doing this, But if OP was really conflicted, then 420 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: like maybe going to someone like your parents and being like, hey, 421 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: here's the situation. Like I am kind of at a 422 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: loss of like what to do, because then it's like, hey, look, 423 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: I'm still not like ruining your relationship and you've already 424 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: like you're the one that messed up, so like it's 425 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: not wrong of me to tell the parents and then 426 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: at least you get some more insight or maybe some 427 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: help on like. 428 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 3: How doing that? You approach a complex situation? Dude, it's 429 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 3: a complex situation. I think it just depends on how 430 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 3: close you are to each of the people involved. 431 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. 432 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 3: But let us know what you would do. Put your 433 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 3: answers to the comments below. But you know what I 434 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 3: want to do, Oh, what I want to get into 435 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 3: this next story? 436 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: Fait it to me.