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Speaker 1: July twentieth Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty two, Day

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Speaker 1: three of SEC Media Days, we were live in downtown Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: Georgia is so happy to have you with us. The

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Speaker 2: interviews are just flowing. One thing we always want to

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Speaker 1: Show on the road, it's to get you more access,

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Speaker 1: and I got a barrel full of it for you.

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Speaker 1: Kirby Smart is about to join the show. Sam Pittman,

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Speaker 1: Arkansas head coach, going to join the show. We are

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Speaker 1: also very aware of ACC Media Days going on, and

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Speaker 1: the commissioner, Jim Phillips over there made some really interesting

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Speaker 1: comments about conference realignment and all the stuff that's been happening,

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Speaker 1: the major earthquake that college football currently experiencing. I'll have

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Speaker 1: some things to say about that before the end of

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Speaker 1: the show. They're watching us in Elizabethtown, Kentucky. They're watching

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Speaker 1: us in Spartanburg, South Carolina, Tulsa, Oklahoma, Cedar Rapids. I

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Speaker 1: would tuned in my promise to you before we start

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Speaker 1: any interviews. By the end of this show, I will

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Speaker 1: give you an update on when the Late Kickstore will reopen.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned for that. I promised it. I haven't forgotten.

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Speaker 1: But until then, let's get into the show. Georgia head

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Speaker 1: coach Kirby Smart rolls in first thing this morning, had

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Speaker 1: a ton of stuff to ask him about. Here is

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Speaker 1: our sit down with Georgia head coach Kirby Smart. Georgia

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Speaker 1: head coach Kirby Smart. Here day three of SEC media days.

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Speaker 1: You're coming off a national check. You know you're coming

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Speaker 1: off the national championship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, I've heard. Okay, so you remember. I don't

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Speaker 3: remember much, but they tell me that we were there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we were there in Indianapolis that night and

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Speaker 1: A lot of folks say, man, you build that stuff

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Speaker 3: You don't ever really get to settled down. Does it

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure that anything will ever achieve what you

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Speaker 4: field after the game that several coaches were like, Man,

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Speaker 4: is this relief or is this excitement?

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Speaker 3: You know? And there's a fine line between relief.

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Speaker 4: From uh, we want it versus excitement which we want it,

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Speaker 4: you know, And there's a there's a fine line between that.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's tough as a head coach because

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Speaker 4: the minute we win it, I'm thinking about what we

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Speaker 4: got to do next year to be the best football

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Speaker 4: team we can be, and you don't let yourself enjoy

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Speaker 1: You had the benefit of having been on championship teams

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Speaker 1: about the next morning and about those meetings and about

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Speaker 3: How did you carry that?

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Speaker 1: Did you did you feel the sense of lightning new

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Speaker 4: What I didn't do is have a staff meeting the

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Speaker 4: coach Saban's the best. We had a staff meeting the

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Speaker 4: Meeting the next morning, but we certainly were gearing ourselves

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Speaker 3: Who's going to be available? How are we going to

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Speaker 4: I mean, there were so many things going on after

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Speaker 1: A lot of coaches obviously talking about portal and nil.

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Speaker 4: Right I don't know enough about what other people are doing,

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Speaker 4: I got a young man, Dan Jackson, who walked on

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Speaker 4: We got ninety five guys that have in ail deals.

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Speaker 4: But the total number is not what's important. It's the opportunity.

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Speaker 4: These guys have to capitalize on name, image, likeness the

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Speaker 1: A lot of people look at the head coaching job

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Speaker 1: the state. Place is just loaded with talent, and you

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Speaker 3: So how do you develop that philosophy? Well, the first.

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Speaker 4: Philosopher's take care of home. If I could do things

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Speaker 4: certainly do that, but the state doesn't necessarily supply the

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Speaker 3: What our state does is puts out really good football players.

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Speaker 4: That's evidenced by the Draft last year where we had

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Speaker 4: That's incredible for the population we have. So you say

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Speaker 3: To leave, but you're not going to win them all.

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Speaker 4: And in today's day and age, these kids they can

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Speaker 4: you don't know what your state's gonna supply. But I

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Speaker 1: How big a believer are you in utilizing doubt outside

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Speaker 1: or disrespect outside or is it all about internally? If

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Speaker 1: Cause even coming back from a national championship, you got

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Speaker 4: I mean, I see all these lists and I'm like, man,

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Speaker 3: And I hate it for him.

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Speaker 4: Because his road is an interesting story in and of itself.

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Speaker 4: This guy's never been the number three, the number two,

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Speaker 4: he's done. He is let a team do a national championship. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we had a tremendous defense, but that guy may plays.

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Speaker 4: He may plays in the playoff with his feet and

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Speaker 3: I think he understands that. But he's a great story

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Speaker 1: Do you guys do exactly what you want offensively? I

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Speaker 1: know the points to win games. The point is to

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Speaker 1: guys want to do. In terms of philosophy offensively, is

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Speaker 1: this what it looks like or is it evolving? Do

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Speaker 1: you eventually want to stretch the field more? How do

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Speaker 4: You said it, I want to score points and I

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Speaker 4: want to be explosive, and to do that, you got

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Speaker 3: You got to have help the explosive football players.

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Speaker 4: So we feel like, at least I feel like with

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Speaker 4: Offense to high school prospects they want to play in

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Speaker 4: an NFL system. Well, coach Monk's done that. He's done that,

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Speaker 4: Well, start on defense. We just lost so many experienced players.

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Speaker 3: You know, offensively, we got a lot of players coming back.

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Speaker 3: We got to be better and I think they get that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, appreciate it, really appreciate Kirby Smart joining us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And one of the biggest talking points in the sport.

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Speaker 1: Right now is how the college football calendar is out

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Speaker 6: Well, I make our coaches, you know, I tell them

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Speaker 1: Your program's in a really interesting point right now. I

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Speaker 3: People now look at Arkansas.

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Speaker 3: They ask you earlier, have you arrived?

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Speaker 1: To now, Arkansas is a place where people are choosing.

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Speaker 6: Third and one on offense, Gotta figure out to convert

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Speaker 6: he needs to be on the field. He doesn't win

440
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Speaker 6: the quarterback job. He gotta play. He's gotta play wide receiver.

441
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Speaker 6: Who's gonna be that pass rusher? Who's gonna be that

442
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Speaker 6: defensive end that comes out as Atlanta Jackson?

443
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Speaker 5: It's is it is it? Williams? Is it is it? Who? Who?

444
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Speaker 5: Who is it? Dominic? Jordan, Dori and Gerald coming back? Who?

445
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Speaker 5: Who who's the guy? Eric Gregory? Who's that guy?

446
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Speaker 6: And then can we played man and man coverage in

447
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Speaker 6: a corner at the corner spot, and I believe all

448
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Speaker 6: those answers will be said, yes we can find, yes

449
00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,679
Speaker 6: we can find, and yes we can cover it as

450
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Speaker 6: a corner, but those we have to find out.

451
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Speaker 3: Sam Pittman a privilege.

452
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Speaker 5: Thank you for joining us, my pleasure. Thanks for really

453
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Speaker 5: good to me man. I appreciate it.

454
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Speaker 2: Sam Pittman's awesome.

455
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Speaker 1: I really wish you guys could be in the room when.

456
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Speaker 3: He walks in.

457
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Speaker 1: We had to stall because we had to delay the

458
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Speaker 1: start of the interview because he insisted on shaking everybody's hand.

459
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Speaker 1: He's walking down the hallway here where there's just water

460
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Speaker 1: available het for everyone. He said, y'all need some water.

461
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Speaker 1: I got some water over here. It started filling up

462
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,160
Speaker 1: water jugs for everybody. It's very easy to see once

463
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Speaker 1: you're exposed to in what they see at Arkansas. But

464
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Speaker 1: you see Arkansas because they're in the same division as

465
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Speaker 1: Alabama and A and M is a high profile program.

466
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Speaker 2: LSU's high profile.

467
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Speaker 1: Sometimes regionally or maybe even locally, they're well ahead of

468
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Speaker 1: the national curve. This happened last year. If you were

469
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Speaker 1: around that Arkansas team going into the Texas game, The

470
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Speaker 1: result wasn't a big surprise to you, was it. It

471
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Speaker 1: was a drubbing, though the nation took notice. But they

472
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Speaker 1: really took notice, as I've talked about many times in

473
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Speaker 1: the show, when they went to Arlington a week or

474
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Speaker 1: two later and they beat Texas A and M. But

475
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Speaker 1: I remember being around the team, and I remember how

476
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Speaker 1: they were very jubilant and it was kind of an

477
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Speaker 1: outpouring of emotion because they got over a hump they

478
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Speaker 1: wanted to get over. They weren't surprised, though nobody was surprised.

479
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Speaker 1: The fan base wasn't surprised. They were happy, but they

480
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Speaker 1: weren't surprised. The nation was because you didn't know that

481
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Speaker 1: Arkansas had that m. The nation's also been surprised, as

482
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Speaker 1: he mentioned there in the interview, to see guys like

483
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Speaker 1: Kendall Briles with options that would pay him more stay

484
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Speaker 1: at Arkansas. Did Oh, Barry Odom will be a head

485
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Speaker 1: coach again one day, have no doubt about that. We're

486
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Speaker 1: huge Barry Odin fans on this show. But he chose

487
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Speaker 1: to stay at Arkansas. A lot of players like Drew

488
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 1: Sanders who transferred from Alabama could have gone amost anywhere

489
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Speaker 1: in the country, including staying at Alabama and playing a

490
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Speaker 1: significant role.

491
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Speaker 2: He chose to go to Arkansas.

492
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Speaker 1: Hazelwood from Oklahoma could have gone amost anywhere, chose to

493
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Speaker 1: go to Arkansas. I keep saying the word chose because

494
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,399
Speaker 1: choice is something that a lot of players with or

495
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Speaker 1: a lot of players having choices, they haven't opted for Arkansas.

496
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Speaker 2: They do now. Coaches do now. And it's because of

497
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Speaker 2: Sam Pittman.

498
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Speaker 1: And he kind of played it a little bit closer

499
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Speaker 1: to the vest when I asked him, why is that.

500
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Speaker 2: Well, he's the reason why.

501
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 1: His culture, which starts from him and flows down, that's

502
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Speaker 1: the reason why. And if you talk to players and

503
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Speaker 1: coaches behind the scenes there, that's what they say. They say,

504
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 1: Pittman's built something. Pitt's built something here. Why would I

505
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 1: want to leave it? You know, short of being a

506
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 1: major head coach, why would I want to leave here? Now,

507
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,479
Speaker 1: he's not going to tell anyone to turn down an

508
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 1: offer that advances their career or advances there. You know,

509
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 1: they're standing in the sport. But man, if if it's

510
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Speaker 1: even close to comparable, guys are choose in Arkansas. Now

511
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Speaker 1: that was not the case. We talked to a number

512
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Speaker 1: of players today. Some of those guys were on that

513
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Speaker 1: two win team. Some of those guys have been there

514
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Speaker 1: for a while and they've seen the transition.

515
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Speaker 2: And you ask him.

516
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Speaker 1: Off the record where you get some better answers even

517
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 1: and they tell you, man, how much time do you

518
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: have to talk about? How much has changed in this program?

519
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: How much time do you have? And the answer is

520
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: usually not much in this setting. But I really appreciate

521
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 1: Sam Pittman joining us. That Cincinnati Arkansas game in the

522
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Speaker 1: running to be the stop in week one. By the way,

523
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 1: for the Every Given Saturday tour. You know what I'm

524
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: going to tell you right now before I get into

525
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 1: the final topic. We got a healthy amount of people

526
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 1: watching live. I promised you, guys when we had to

527
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: shut down that Late kickstore Friday, I promised you we

528
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: were opening again this week, this time tomorrow, actually a

529
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: little bit earlier because we're going to start the show

530
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Speaker 1: earlier tomorrow. I am reopening that store during the live show.

531
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Speaker 1: I am keeping this amongst us because you deserve an

532
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Speaker 1: award for being part of the live audience. So we're

533
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Speaker 1: not going to plaster it all over the place. But

534
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Speaker 1: if you're in here, I will announce it during the show.

535
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Speaker 1: We'll probably put the link right here in the live chat.

536
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: That's when we're going to reopen that thing. I'm telling

537
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: you right now, supply is going to be limited. I'm

538
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 1: telling you right now, I would strongly lean towards us

539
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 1: selling out again. It won't always be a problem, but

540
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Speaker 1: it is right now. Tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, that's when we're

541
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: reopening that thing, now, you know. Okay, the last thing

542
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to hit today, And I appreciate you guys

543
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: being tuned in. Subscribe to the channel if you haven't already.

544
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: Realignment has been a topic every coach has been asked

545
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 1: about here.

546
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 2: Realignment is a topic.

547
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: They're talking about it every media days and Jim Phillips,

548
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: the ACC Commissioner, talked about that today at ACC Media Days.

549
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, I think Jim Phillips may have

550
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: been watching Late Kick because he started using a lot

551
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Speaker 1: of terminology, especially the old mansion gated community type terminology

552
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 1: that I've been using on this show to describe the

553
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Speaker 1: way the sports headed and what I've made it analogous

554
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: to is the concept of a super conference and the

555
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 1: concept of building yourself up to the point where You're

556
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Speaker 1: the bright, shining mansion in town, but the town's burning

557
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: down around you, and so it doesn't really matter how

558
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: big your mansion is because your property values nil because

559
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Speaker 1: there is no town left.

560
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Speaker 2: Is that really what you want college football to be?

561
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Speaker 1: Well, Jim Phillips kind of stepped at the podium today

562
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Speaker 1: at the ACCAY event and said, do we really just

563
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: want college football to be a bunch of gated communities

564
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: that are closed off from each other and there's just

565
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: a couple of them and then everyone else has to

566
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Speaker 1: move out of town?

567
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Speaker 5: Like?

568
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Speaker 1: Is that really what we want college football to look like?

569
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Speaker 1: The answer from almost everyone is no, almost everyone. I

570
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Speaker 1: think we understand who the yeses are, but I think

571
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Speaker 1: almost everyone says no, even those of us like me

572
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Speaker 1: who grew up in the SEC's footprint. We're at SEC

573
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Speaker 1: Media Days right now. I've voiced my displeasure about that direction. Now,

574
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Speaker 1: what I have stopped short of that a lot of

575
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Speaker 1: you have just gone full bore into is vilifying one person,

576
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Speaker 1: vilifying Greg Sanki, or vilifying Kevin Warren in the Big Ten.

577
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Speaker 2: I just don't think it's that clean cut. I don't

578
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Speaker 2: think it's that clear cut. I've told you, guys my

579
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Speaker 2: thinking on that. I'm not going to rehash that today.

580
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Speaker 2: We don't really have time to do that.

581
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Speaker 1: But nevertheless, no matter whose fault it is, it's happening,

582
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Speaker 1: and it's just it's kind of a helpless feeling. And

583
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Speaker 1: I know because we can see the numbers now. If

584
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Speaker 1: you're Jim Phillips over there in the ACC, I mean,

585
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: some of these projections, guys, are this world you will

586
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: make as a member institution in the SEC. Very soon

587
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: you will be cashing an annual paycheck that is about

588
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: three times more than a member institution in the ACC

589
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: will cash. In other words, Arkansas will make three times more.

590
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Speaker 1: Or let me put it another way, that will really

591
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 1: hit you right smack in the mouth. Mississippi State Vanderbilt

592
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: will make three times more than the Clemson Tigers will

593
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: simply because of the sticker on the back of their helmet.

594
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Speaker 1: That's not sustainable if you want to maintain yourself as

595
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Speaker 1: a quote unquote power what we currently call a Power

596
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Speaker 1: five level conference, that's not the future.

597
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Speaker 2: Power five is a phrase that's a term that.

598
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Speaker 1: Is going by the wayside. I don't know if it's

599
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Speaker 1: going to be Power two in the future. I know

600
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Speaker 1: it's certainly not going to be Power five, and Jim

601
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Speaker 1: Phillips is kind of standing up on the podium saying

602
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Speaker 1: the only thing he can say, What else could he say? Well,

603
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Speaker 1: what other line of thinking could he have? Then I

604
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: don't like what's happening. We as a conference are locked

605
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Speaker 1: in this grant of rights deal. We've got to cash

606
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: the check. We're cashing until the mid twenty thirties, so

607
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: that's not going anywhere. And you always want to say but,

608
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: and then you want to have some hope that maybe

609
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Speaker 1: something could be on the horizon short of reworking that deal,

610
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Speaker 1: which is certainly the powers that be at ESPN have

611
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Speaker 1: no reason to do, no incentive to do. I don't

612
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Speaker 1: really know how that works, and that's why I'm not

613
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Speaker 1: very confident in the future standing of that conference. I

614
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: don't think some of the member institutions that would be

615
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: attractive I E. Miami, I E F s U, I E. Clemson.

616
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Speaker 1: I don't think they're super crazy about the future prospects there.

617
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: So I don't know when it's going to happen, and

618
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Speaker 1: I certainly don't know how it's going to happen, because

619
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of financial limitation on that. But I

620
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Speaker 1: think there are gonna be some ties that are cut

621
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Speaker 1: over there because the future is untenable. How in the

622
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Speaker 1: world do you call yourself competing with the other behemoths

623
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Speaker 1: in the sport as an individual school making three times

624
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Speaker 1: less per year than they do. I don't know how

625
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Speaker 1: that's going to happen. But I was listening to him

626
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Speaker 1: earlier today. I empathized with him. I even agree with

627
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: a lot of what he's saying. Nick Saban on the

628
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: show yesterday kind of said the same thing. I just

629
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: don't know what option you have. And I also, as

630
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Speaker 1: much as some of us Jim Phillips included, ask whether

631
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Speaker 1: we want this to look like NFL light and we

632
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: answer no, no, no, think some of the people pulling

633
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: the strings answer yes, yes, yes, because the folks at

634
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 1: the executive level, especially at the network level, do not

635
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: view that as a bad thing. They view this becoming

636
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: NFL light as a very good thing, because they would

637
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: look back at you and me when we talk about

638
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: tradition and we talk about regionality, and we talk about

639
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: the unique fabric of college football, and they would say,

640
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you want to be like the NFL the

641
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: NFL is our most profitable property by ten miles. And

642
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: we look back at him and say, we don't care

643
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,719
Speaker 1: about the money, and they look back at us, and

644
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: that's when they kind of drop the hammer, because they do,

645
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: and they do period. There is no butt, there's just well,

646
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: we do care about it, and we got both hands

647
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: on the wheel and you're in the back seat. And

648
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: if that's the way it's got to be, that's the

649
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 1: way it's got to be. It's not like you just

650
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: throw your fan them in the wood chipper. It's still

651
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: going to be a very, very fun sport to watch.

652
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: It's just going to be a different sport to watch.

653
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: We appreciate you, guys. We try to maintain this show.

654
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Speaker 1: It's the same show that you that you come to

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Speaker 1: love and support, and it gives us the ability to

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Speaker 1: do these sorts of things. So until tomorrow, it's going

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Speaker 1: to have an earlier start time. Make sure you're following

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Speaker 1: on the socials at late Kick, Josh, I'll be sure

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Speaker 1: to keep you up to day and inform until tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: For our entire crew here in Atlanta, I'm Josh Spade

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Speaker 1: signing off.

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Speaker 2: Have a great rest of your evening and God, bless,