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Speaker 2: Eighth, ninth, tenth, And yet he's the first to go.

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Speaker 3: Inside scoop time with Ken Rosenthaler, FT Senior insider in person.

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Speaker 3: Good to see you, Ken, could see you guys. Happy

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Speaker 3: All Star break to you. And of course you're breaking

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Speaker 2: And then we also saw today the.

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Speaker 3: Announcement that no matter how far they go, it's going

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Speaker 1: That was surprising. That was not my story. That was

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Speaker 1: Mark Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times. And originally when

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Speaker 1: I wrote about this about I don't know two weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: then they'd have to move it out because MLB gives

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Speaker 1: the LCS and the World Series, and that would be

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Speaker 1: make it prohibitive to play in a ten thousand, five

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Speaker 4: I don't know how that's going to work. It'll be interesting,

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Speaker 1: The sale and Evandrelic and I did report yesterday that

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Speaker 5: Was this the back to the not to dismiss that part,

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Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 5: Was that just made a decision made by the owners

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Speaker 5: Because you're gonna question some money out of that too,

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Speaker 2: That's right there.

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, Eric, There is a percentage of players get.

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Speaker 4: It's some percentage that they get.

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Speaker 1: And sure, when you're playing in a ten thousand, five

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Speaker 1: It seems to be a unilateral decision. This was not

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure we know what they're rooting for, which

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Speaker 6: Telling me they make the World Series, they're going to

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Speaker 4: That is what Ark reported. Mark is the guy who

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I would expect that that is going.

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Speaker 4: Can make it even an ALCS broadcast.

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Speaker 6: In Steinbrennerfield with ten thousand people. I'll be calling you.

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Speaker 1: For And also from Fox's perspective. I know this because

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Speaker 4: So the presentation of the game would not be what

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Speaker 2: It's not a good representation.

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Speaker 1: Now the problem is, guys, the alternatives also stink.

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Speaker 4: Playing in Miami Tampa Bay fans, maybe they go.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they're not driving down the driving down there in

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you this from living down in Miami for years.

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Speaker 1: So again, I don't know how they resolve the ticket

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Speaker 1: all the people I just mentioned, the media broadcast partners, sponsors,

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Speaker 4: Because you'll only got ten thousand, five hundred to start with.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know how that resolves, but I imagine they'll

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Speaker 3: And then for the other side of the equation here,

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Speaker 3: but specifically in Tampa, not in Saint Pete. We'll have

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Speaker 3: to go back to work to try and get a

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Speaker 1: But Scott, the difference is the government officials in Tampa,

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Speaker 1: no longer wanted to deal with Stuart Sternberg. They had

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Speaker 1: and Saint Pete might be too.

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Speaker 2: It's been twenty years.

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Speaker 3: It's been a long time, but for our purposes, your

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Speaker 6: You never know.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't.

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Speaker 6: I would say it's not dead, but it is kind

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Speaker 6: Patrick Zulowski doesn't want to listen to Orlando, and I

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Speaker 1: Know that rule out AJ he bringing Orlando into the

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Speaker 6: Once you bring a city, you're only lower things around me.

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Speaker 4: Once you bring a city into the mix, you never know.

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Speaker 6: Oh, you're right, might happen. Right, So here's what I'm

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Speaker 6: that in Tampa Bay fair question.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the geography or the city well enough

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Speaker 4: Don't always get what you want either.

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Speaker 1: No, I know they may not be one hundred acres available.

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Speaker 1: They were talking about Ebor City at point. They've been

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's available and what's not there.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure though, that they have ideas in mind, and

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Speaker 1: it just seems to me and a lot of people

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Speaker 1: It's a simple geography question. If you're in Tampa, you

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Speaker 2: Nobody went yeah, no, it's the logistical nightmare. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: All right, let's hit trade chatter for a few minutes.

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Speaker 3: Anything new with some of the teams. I think you

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Speaker 1: Red Sox what I talked about yesterday was a couple

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Speaker 4: Now you can get the best available in the lower tier.

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Speaker 6: Well, you keep talking about the Red Sox. Are they

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Speaker 6: How much was that just you pumping up your game

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Speaker 5: Ken forgot that they can't they can't field the ball

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Speaker 1: But Gregman's coming back solid story saw the f and

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Speaker 6: All Right, here's the real question I want to know.

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Speaker 4: I actually want to see this.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I think I don't know.

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Speaker 1: People understand we're talking about Adam Aman, one of the

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Speaker 4: Also DJs in Chicago. He does this as a gig,

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Speaker 4: He said he just wanted to.

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Speaker 6: We are going, yes, Oh, yes, we're going, Yes, We're going.

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Speaker 6: He did in college and then he gave it up

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Speaker 2: I won't be doing dancing with you.

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Speaker 6: Why, I hope not. Are you a corner sitting in

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Speaker 2: I will be a sitting right. You want to make

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Speaker 6: Bigger story here is you're working on the A crew. Well,

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Speaker 2: He doesn't, Yeah, is gonna be here soon.

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Speaker 6: You're an A guy. Well, A crew once in a

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Speaker 1: He has me bringing the head of Fox Sports a

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Speaker 5: I understand how this is. Broadcasting career is kind of

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Speaker 8: Compare the second game to triple No. No, but we

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Speaker 6: What's the guys name in the chat that he's gonna

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Speaker 2: In my mind, two storylines.

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Speaker 3: What do you think of the two storylines there?

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Speaker 2: This is going to be interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to see which players challenge,

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Speaker 6: Well. Cal Rawley was like perfect in the spring training

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Speaker 4: On this issue because I see both sides.

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Speaker 4: Didn't do anything wrong with supposed to say no?

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Speaker 6: Is he gonna say no? No? No, exactly. He was

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Speaker 6: People say I'm.

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Speaker 2: Gonna turn it down. I'm just not worthy.

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Speaker 6: Yet many people said no, right, that's why he's here,

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Speaker 4: Who's Luda?

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Speaker 6: Come on, you don't know Luda?

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Speaker 4: Chris, Chris, I'm not gonna dance with Chris.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry to disappoint you.

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Speaker 6: You don't know any songs by Luda.

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Speaker 6: To Atlanta where the Players play.

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Speaker 2: Cant I heard it all day yesterday.

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Speaker 5: That's how.

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Speaker 2: IM going to start his interviewing, Paul. Welcome to Atlanta

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Speaker 2: where the players please.

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Speaker 8: You.

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Speaker 6: That would that would be the biggest thing you ever did.

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Speaker 2: That would be I promise you that would be. That

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Speaker 6: It would be.

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Speaker 4: But it's not happening.

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Speaker 2: His arsenal Okay, he doesn't have that pitch, not yet

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Speaker 2: in the future. Cat, thank you, good.

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Speaker 4: To see you, See you guys.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 4: Excomyday later

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Speaker 3: Later on Saturday Territory Back on Thursday second half preview,

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