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Speaker 1: Welcome to the forty nine Ers. You've Got Mail Podcasts

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Speaker 1: presented by Manscaped. I'm your host and team reporter Lindsay Polaris.

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Speaker 1: It's been a minute, faithful. The forty nine Ers are

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Speaker 1: now in phase two of the off season programming, and

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Speaker 1: San Francisco's regular season schedule was announced last week. There

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Speaker 1: have been plenty of fun events going on during the

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Speaker 1: NFL offseason. Earlier this month, the forty nine Ers Foundation

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Speaker 1: put on their annual Golden Getaway weekend at Carmel Valley Ranch.

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Speaker 1: Proceeds from the event helped fund programs that support Bay

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Speaker 1: Area youth. Current players and alumni were in attendance, and

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Speaker 1: that's where I got to catch up with this week's guest,

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Speaker 1: former San Francisco forty nine Ers nose tackle Ian Williams.

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Speaker 1: He played with the Red and Gold for five seasons

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Speaker 1: from twenty eleven through the end of the twenty fifteen season,

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Speaker 1: and he's a regular attendee of the forty nine Ers

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Speaker 1: Foundation Golden Getaway. He weighed in on the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: two season. The team's biggest off season moves and is

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Speaker 1: golf skills, of course, so let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: I've been to a lot of them, and I always

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Speaker 2: have a great time. It's always cool to be able

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Speaker 2: to make some mingle with a lot of the people

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Speaker 2: who are donors for the museum and the STEM programs,

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Speaker 2: and I feel like my personality and you know, me

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Speaker 2: being very bad at golf bringing them back every year.

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Speaker 1: I've asked several of the current players this, but where

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Speaker 1: would you rate the golf skills one to ten at

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Speaker 1: this point?

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Speaker 2: My golf skills, yes, I definitely have to say like

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Speaker 2: a four. Okay, sometimes you know I'm on straight where

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Speaker 2: I all hit one and it will be like a

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Speaker 2: Tiger Woods type hit and then everyone it would be

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Speaker 2: like a dud and I'll hit maybe four yards, it'll

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Speaker 2: bounce off the ground, all these different technical things.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, would you say that your golf game has

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Speaker 1: gotten better since retiring from football just because you've got

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Speaker 1: a little more free time or.

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Speaker 2: Not really incorrect, it's gotten worse actually, yeah.

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Speaker 1: False statement there. So for you, as a former NFL player,

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Speaker 1: now that you're in the alumni part of your life,

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Speaker 1: why is it so important to continue to give back,

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Speaker 1: especially to the forty nine Ers Foundation and all the

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Speaker 1: critical football programs that it helps fund.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're attached. You know, when we come in as

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Speaker 2: a rookie or a free agent, you know, you come

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Speaker 2: a part of the city. You come a part of

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Speaker 2: the culture of the Bay Area, and that means you're

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Speaker 2: a part of the younger generation also, so they say

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Speaker 2: you play, an eight year old can see you play.

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Speaker 2: A twenty year old can see you play. And these

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Speaker 2: are the people in the community that by you showing

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Speaker 2: up to a random toy drive or a clothing event

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Speaker 2: some kind of thing Deebo Samuel showing up to Shoe

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Speaker 2: Palace and things like that, it gives kids and other

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Speaker 2: people inspiration that hey, like, these guys are really in

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Speaker 2: the community. Not only are they playing great football, great citizens,

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Speaker 2: but they're also involving themselves in the community because they

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Speaker 2: don't have to after games. You know, after a Sunday

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Speaker 2: night game, I'm sore on Monday, I'm sore on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of these guys show up and people

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Speaker 2: don't even know how sore. They are. There next their needs,

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Speaker 2: but they're there for the people who it really matters for,

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Speaker 2: and that's the kids and the people who really need

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Speaker 2: the services that the forty provide.

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Speaker 1: So correct me if I'm wrong. You were a former

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Speaker 1: undrafted free agent? Yes, yes, okay, So I think we

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Speaker 1: dreams of upcoming undrafted free agents are about to come true.

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Speaker 1: How critical is it to stand out during this OTA

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Speaker 2: Very critical? I mean for me, I came in in

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Speaker 2: So after the draft, I didn't have any calls or

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Speaker 2: I actually knew a team and what playbook I was

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Speaker 2: especially certain positions where a tight end you're not going

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Speaker 2: doesn't need those reps. Same things for Trent Williams, but

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Speaker 2: for years ago. That's where I learned from and as

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Speaker 2: an undrafted free agent, that's where I made my bread

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Speaker 2: and butter. Whenever I had an opportunity, I seized it.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like you played with a little bit

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, for sure, for sure. And I wanted to

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Speaker 2: to pick. So when it was my turn, I had

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Speaker 2: that was Washington at the time, and I'm looking at

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Speaker 2: all these rosters and I see Jim Thomsuell, and I

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Speaker 2: So you have a young guy coming in, there's a

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Speaker 2: numbers worked out perfectly, obviously. You know the storylines leaf

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Speaker 2: the leader that I was on the team in twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 2: which we were able to, you know, overcome some things,

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Speaker 2: but you know we main things happen.

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Speaker 1: As a former defensive lineman, I have to ask, what

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Speaker 1: is your opinion of the stacked talent on the defensive

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Speaker 1: front of this upcoming twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: I'm loving it. I'm loving it. It's been great to

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Speaker 2: see the talent that Chris Kosk as a defensive line

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Speaker 2: and former defensive line being able to watch these guys

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Speaker 2: be drafted. And then also Eric Armstead in twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 2: I was the leader in the locker room, in that

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Speaker 2: that came into the locker room, Eric Armstell And look

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Speaker 2: at him now Citizen of the Year, Sacramento's finest and

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Speaker 2: one of the top paid and top d linemen in

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Speaker 2: the mouth to get back at Philadelphia. I was at

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited to see what they can do this year.

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Speaker 1: So that was my first time in Philly.

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Speaker 2: Really, I was a rowdy he was so roundy.

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Speaker 1: I told you the buses going into the stadium. I

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Speaker 1: They like line up and they wait and they're they're enthusiastic,

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Speaker 1: Yes they are. They started him young too. There was

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Speaker 1: like five year olds taunting us. I'm impressed. Before we

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Speaker 1: So what do you think about the addition of Javon

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Speaker 1: Hargrave coming from the team We were just talking about

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 2: I'm over here stroking my shoulders. Sorry, no, what we're

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Speaker 2: you know, being able to see him play against these guys.

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Speaker 2: They already know Brendle and the Interior office a Lineman Banks,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch, you know, may

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Speaker 2: have mentioned them. Hey what do you think about this guy? Oh, coach,

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Speaker 2: he's a player, Let's get him. And that's exactly what

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Speaker 1: Were you surprised at the big free agent move just

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Speaker 2: I was very surprised. I didn't expect it. I thought

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Speaker 2: But hey, if you can get a player like that

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Speaker 2: Oh that's huge. And how do you win championships? Defensive

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Speaker 2: the best in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: All right, So for your twenty twenty three season prediction

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Speaker 1: regular season, where did the forty nine ers end up?

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Speaker 2: I think they have the team to make it back

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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey all everything that he is, its only not

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Speaker 2: the best teams in NFC. I was there at the game.

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Speaker 2: I felt the emotion when we lost Bronc, when we

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Speaker 1: Any throw an throw.

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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, we got all

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Speaker 1: So something that's been kind of characteristic of the forty

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Speaker 2: You're kind of always going to have that, especially with

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Speaker 1: If you weren't a nose tackle during your NFL career,

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Speaker 2: I'm playing quarterback. I mean at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: I kind of fell in a position. I was a

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Speaker 2: So that's where I was at with that. And if

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Speaker 1: I was like, that makes a lot of sense.

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