WEBVTT - The Ig Nobel Prize

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Tech Stuff, a production from iHeartRadio. Hey there,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an executive producer with iHeartRadio. And how the tech

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<v Speaker 1>are you? So today we're going to talk about something

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<v Speaker 1>goofy because I am still in Las Vegas, and working

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<v Speaker 1>in another city is hard, y'all. For those of you

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<v Speaker 1>who travel a lot for work, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>you do it. When I travel for work, I find

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<v Speaker 1>it incredibly disruptive. So I sought out something kind of

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<v Speaker 1>fun and funny to talk about in order to maintain

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<v Speaker 1>my sanity while I'm on the road. So back in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteenth century, a scientist, a polyglot and an arms

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturer who also happened to have invented dynamite, decided fairly

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<v Speaker 1>late in life that he would devote his massive fortune

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<v Speaker 1>that he had attained through blowing stuff up toward funding

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<v Speaker 1>the Nobel Prize awards. That man was Alfred Nobel Prize. No, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>my wife's just told me. It's just Alfred Nobel. He

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<v Speaker 1>ordered that a panel would award prizes in five categories

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<v Speaker 1>physical science, chemistry, medicine, literature, and peace. The panel does

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<v Speaker 1>not take nationality into account. It could be anyone from

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere in the world. Awards can go to multiple individuals

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<v Speaker 1>per category, per year. Typically they tend to be colleagues

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<v Speaker 1>or they worked on the same problem or area of focus,

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<v Speaker 1>but there can be multiple winners. But we're not here

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the Nobel Prize. Instead, we're here to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about a prize that only dates back to nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety one, and it's for stuff that, at least on

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<v Speaker 1>the surface level, is either very silly or infuriating. So

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<v Speaker 1>we are talking about the ig Nobel Prize. Now. To

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<v Speaker 1>set the stage, it's first to get to know a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about a couple of journals in the science

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<v Speaker 1>world that don't really fit your normal perception of a

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<v Speaker 1>science journal. The first is the Journal of Irreproducible Results.

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<v Speaker 1>Think of it as kind of like a National Lampoon

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<v Speaker 1>or Mad Magazine for science nerds. I use the term

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<v Speaker 1>science nerds affectionately. I also realize that National Lampoon and

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<v Speaker 1>Mad Magazine might be references that none of you get.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's fine. Now. One could argue that the webcomic

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<v Speaker 1>XKCD kind of embraces a bit of the spirit found

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<v Speaker 1>in that journal. The content includes stuff like outright satirical

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<v Speaker 1>pieces to cover of scientific research into seemingly trivial matters,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like the kind of stuff like if there

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<v Speaker 1>was actually a study to determine if you drop a

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<v Speaker 1>slice of buttered toast, are the odds greater that the

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<v Speaker 1>toast will land on the floor butterside down or not?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, someone has to research that. So the story

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<v Speaker 1>goes that after launching in the nineteen fifties, the Little

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<v Speaker 1>Humor magazine began to grow. And this was actually a

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<v Speaker 1>problem because the two guys who had launched the magazine,

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<v Speaker 1>which were a virologist named Alex Cohne and a physicist

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<v Speaker 1>named Harry Lipkin, they started the whole thing. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a joke, but it gradually grew into becoming a success,

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<v Speaker 1>which meant that it went from being a joke to

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<v Speaker 1>serious work to put this together. They already had serious

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<v Speaker 1>work that they had to do with, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>viruses and you know, I don't know, physics. In the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixties, the pair passed the publication off to a

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<v Speaker 1>different publisher, and a medical researcher named George Cher became

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<v Speaker 1>publisher for a while, but then in the late nineteen eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>a scientific journals publisher called Blackwell Scientific Publications took over

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<v Speaker 1>publishing this satirical magazine. Now, the journal has had several

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<v Speaker 1>editors over its history, but one in particular stands out

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<v Speaker 1>with regard to this episode that we're doing today. That

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<v Speaker 1>would be Mark Abraham's. He became the editor of the

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<v Speaker 1>journal in nineteen ninety one and he remained the editor

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<v Speaker 1>for three years. He wrote an essay for The Guardian

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<v Speaker 1>in which he laid out how things unfolded. So apparently

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<v Speaker 1>he submitted a small sample of stuff he had written

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<v Speaker 1>in the vein of funny science articles. Because he had

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<v Speaker 1>written these things, he wanted to get them published somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't having much luck, so unsolicited, he sent them

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<v Speaker 1>off to this magazine. The publisher called him and offered

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<v Speaker 1>him the job of editor of the magazine, which was

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<v Speaker 1>not what he was expecting. But the trick was that

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<v Speaker 1>he would have no real resources to put the journal together.

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<v Speaker 1>He would have no staff, he would have no money

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<v Speaker 1>to speak of. But he really wanted to do this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff, so he said okay, And he even

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<v Speaker 1>called out the original co founders of the magazine who

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<v Speaker 1>had been retired for ages. They happily came back out

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<v Speaker 1>to help out with sort of a relaunch of this magazine. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the journal's transformation caught the attention of Blackwell's leadership, and

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't long before Abraham's was told he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to actually get the money and the support that he

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<v Speaker 1>had been needing but had not received. However, before that

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<v Speaker 1>could happen, this is always the case, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>change in leadership at the publishing company and the new

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<v Speaker 1>president didn't see any real value in the Journal of

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<v Speaker 1>irreproducible Results, so those offers of support withered away. So

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<v Speaker 1>then Abrahams decided, well, what if I offered to buy

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<v Speaker 1>the magazine from you? What would that cost? Well, suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>this property that had no value got the price tag

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<v Speaker 1>of a million dollars. It's amazing how something doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>value until a person here is that someone else wants it.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's the definition of value. But to go

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<v Speaker 1>from oh, it's not worth anything to I'll sell it

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<v Speaker 1>to you for a million dollars is quite the turnaround.

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<v Speaker 1>But Abrahams was not ready to put down that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of money, so he bailed, as did most of the

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<v Speaker 1>editorial staff. When Mark Abrahams left the journal in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four, he founded his own science humor magazine. His

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<v Speaker 1>version is called The Annals of Improbable Research, or air

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<v Speaker 1>AIR for short. Now, the reason all this is important

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<v Speaker 1>is that Abrahams actually helped launch the ig Nobel Prize

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<v Speaker 1>back when he was editor of Irreproducible Results, but he

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<v Speaker 1>would continue when he shifted to create the Annals of

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<v Speaker 1>Improbable Research. I'm leaving out a lot of other stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of drama that happened behind the scenes, like

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<v Speaker 1>George Cher brought a lawsuit against Improbable Research and that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing, you know, because George Share, the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who had been the publisher for Irreproducible Results until nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty nine, actually became the publisher again after Blackwell essentially

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<v Speaker 1>abandoned the journal. Yeah, so there's all this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>crazy drama in the background. But that's not really what

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<v Speaker 1>we're here to talk about. We're here to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the IG Nobel Prizes. Typically, it goes to actual scientific

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<v Speaker 1>researchers and rewards work that on the surface seems trivial,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even just a total waste of time, but it

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<v Speaker 1>falls into a category that Abraham's describes as something that

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<v Speaker 1>first makes you laugh then makes you think. And maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it makes you think about something in a really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>new way. Maybe it doesn't, Maybe it just makes you

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<v Speaker 1>think what prompted this research? But yeah, Sometimes something that's

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<v Speaker 1>on the surface level that appears to be ridiculous may

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<v Speaker 1>actually lead you to say things like, yeah, but why

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<v Speaker 1>does that happen that way? Or something similar like does

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<v Speaker 1>buttered toast fall buttersided down? More frequently the butterside up?

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<v Speaker 1>And what would happen if you tied a piece of

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<v Speaker 1>buttered toast to the back of a cat and then

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<v Speaker 1>dropped it. Don't do that anyway. The Ignobel Prizes would

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<v Speaker 1>also go to people as a way to satirically ras them.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it was not meant as a as kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a fun, cheeky award. Sometimes it was just meant to

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<v Speaker 1>say this is messed up. For example, a nineteen ninety one,

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<v Speaker 1>the first year they ever had the Ignobel Prizes, they

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<v Speaker 1>offered an award in edge education and it went to

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<v Speaker 1>former US Vice President Dan Quail for quote demonstrating better

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<v Speaker 1>than anyone else the need for science education end quote zing.

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<v Speaker 1>Other awards would go out to scientists and others who

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<v Speaker 1>perpetuated pseudoscience, ranging from homeopathy to crop circles to perpetual motion.

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<v Speaker 1>In those cases, the award was perhaps a bit less

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<v Speaker 1>good natured and more of an attempt to shame someone

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<v Speaker 1>for coming up short when it comes to scientific rigor.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to focus primarily on some of the prizes

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<v Speaker 1>awarded for stuff that relates to technology, you know, tech stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>The first ig Nobel Prize for Technology was in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety three, and it went to Jay Schiffman, who had

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<v Speaker 1>been working on a technology that would project instrument gauges

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<v Speaker 1>onto the cockpit windshield of an airplane. So essentially what

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about here is augmented reality. But that's not

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<v Speaker 1>what the prize was for. It wasn't because he had

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<v Speaker 1>come up with this concept or that he was testing

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<v Speaker 1>a technology to accomplish this. Because I mean that application

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<v Speaker 1>it totally makes sense. You would say, well, why would

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<v Speaker 1>you get Ignobel prize for essentially creating a heads up

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<v Speaker 1>display in an airplane cockpit? The prize was for how

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<v Speaker 1>Shiffman was trying to convince the airplane industry and airlines

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<v Speaker 1>and such that this technology was safe and reliable. So

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, he rigged up a nineteen seventy Chevrolet

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<v Speaker 1>panel truck so that he could project television images onto

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<v Speaker 1>the windshield. Now you might imagine that turning your windshield

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<v Speaker 1>into a transparent television screen might not be the best notion,

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<v Speaker 1>but Shiffman claimed it actually improved driver safety because people

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<v Speaker 1>were more likely to keep their eyes on the windshield

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<v Speaker 1>in front of them. Now, to be clear, the image

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<v Speaker 1>that the driver would see wouldn't take up the whole windshield,

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<v Speaker 1>and to the driver it would look like the screen

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<v Speaker 1>sort of in front of their car. Back in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety three, Schiffman met a lot of resistance among auto

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturers and legislators for this invention, but these days heads

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<v Speaker 1>up displays can be found in several vehicle lines. Heck,

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<v Speaker 1>at the last CEES, BMW showed off a mixed reality

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<v Speaker 1>slider technology that would display AR images across the entire

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<v Speaker 1>width of the bottom of a windshield, so you could

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<v Speaker 1>get readouts from the far left all the way across

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<v Speaker 1>to the far right. And then BMW said it would

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<v Speaker 1>be possible to even transform a windshield into a big

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<v Speaker 1>screen TV, So you could argue that Shiffman's concept wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>wacky or bad. It was just way ahead of its time.

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<v Speaker 1>Or maybe it was wacky and bad and we'll find

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<v Speaker 1>out the hard way later on. Okay, we've got some

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<v Speaker 1>more Ignobel Prizes to talk about, but before we get

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<v Speaker 1>into any of those, let's take a quick break to

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<v Speaker 1>thank our sponsor. Okay, when we left off, I talked

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<v Speaker 1>about a nineteen ninety three award. Well, that was also

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<v Speaker 1>the year that saw on Ignobel Prize go to Ron

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<v Speaker 1>Poe Peel, the guy who really kicked off the as

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<v Speaker 1>seen on TV gadget craze way back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>for inventions like the vegiomatic and the pocket Fisherman, a

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<v Speaker 1>device that would scramble an egg while it was still

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<v Speaker 1>inside it shell. Those all came courtesy of a mister

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<v Speaker 1>pop Peel, and I did an episode about him ages ago.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, you can actually do a search and find

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<v Speaker 1>an episode dedicated to Ron Popeel. It was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun to talk about. The next Ignobel Prize related

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<v Speaker 1>to technology came in nineteen ninety seven, when the award

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<v Speaker 1>for Communications went to Sanford Wallace. Now, in case you

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<v Speaker 1>had not heard the name Sandford Wallace, or at least

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't sound familiar to you, maybe you heard one

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<v Speaker 1>of his nicknames like Spamford Wallace or spam King. There

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<v Speaker 1>were also less family friendly names directed at him. Wallace

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<v Speaker 1>was a pioneer an electronic spam mail. He created a

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<v Speaker 1>company called Cyber Promotions that became notorious for blasting out

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<v Speaker 1>spam email to folks all around the world. And remember

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<v Speaker 1>this is in the early days of the Internet, when

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<v Speaker 1>some folks were just getting a handle on what email

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<v Speaker 1>even was. Wallace had a history involving let's say, questionable

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<v Speaker 1>marketing schemes, and his incredibly effective methods for sending out

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<v Speaker 1>spam mail got him some unwanted attention from various sources,

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<v Speaker 1>including the US government. So he was the subject of

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<v Speaker 1>several cases criminal cases, and in nineteen ninety nine he

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<v Speaker 1>found himself temporarily banned from even having an Internet connection

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to his spam efforts. He would later go on

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<v Speaker 1>to create a business that allegedly infected computers with spyware.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he would offer to remove the spyware in return

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<v Speaker 1>for a fee, kind of a smaller scale version of

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<v Speaker 1>ransomware in that regard. By twenty sixteen, he was facing

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<v Speaker 1>jail time and massive fines for his various escapades that

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<v Speaker 1>broadly speaking, attempted to monetize frustration and misery. He served

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<v Speaker 1>nearly two years in prison for all of that. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>the Ignobel Prize had his number way back in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety seven. Another nineteen ninety seven award went to a

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<v Speaker 1>guy named John Bachras. This award was for physics, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was another satirical jab at someone failing to use

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<v Speaker 1>scientific rigor. Bachras was a chemistry professor. He had employment

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<v Speaker 1>at Texas A and M University. He was originally from

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<v Speaker 1>South Africa, and he had made several claims that, if

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<v Speaker 1>they had held up, would have been truly revolutionary. So

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<v Speaker 1>one claim he had was that he had found a

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<v Speaker 1>way to separate hydrogen from oxygen using sunlight, which if

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<v Speaker 1>we're true, would have led to a hydrogen based economy

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<v Speaker 1>right away and would have been a huge jump in

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<v Speaker 1>our and meaning our energy needs without having to rely

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<v Speaker 1>on fossil fuels. He even said later that he came

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<v Speaker 1>up with an alternative method that didn't even need sunlight

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<v Speaker 1>and still was effective at separating hydrogen from oxygen. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you can do this by the way, you can use electrolysis,

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<v Speaker 1>which means you're passing an electric charge through water to

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<v Speaker 1>break those molecular bonds, but that means you have to

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<v Speaker 1>spend energy to get hydrogen to separate from oxygen. And

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<v Speaker 1>if the energy you're spending is greater than what you

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<v Speaker 1>can capture through using that hydrogen as a fuel or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're at a net loss. Right, You're spending more

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<v Speaker 1>energy to get the fuel than the fuel actually provides

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<v Speaker 1>you in useful work. So if Bakraus's methodology had worked,

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<v Speaker 1>it would have been transformational. By the way, that was

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<v Speaker 1>not the the only odd claim he had made throughout

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<v Speaker 1>his career. Another one involved claims about cold fusion, which

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<v Speaker 1>is carrying out the process of fusion, that is, fusing

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<v Speaker 1>two light atoms like lighter atoms like helium or hydrogen,

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<v Speaker 1>fusing those into a heavier atom, but doing so at

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<v Speaker 1>low temperatures, like close to room temperature. That's something that

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't seem to be possible. We usually have to

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<v Speaker 1>do these kind of experiments at very very very high temperatures.

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<v Speaker 1>If we could do them at room temperatures, that also

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<v Speaker 1>would be transformational. But while people over the years have

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<v Speaker 1>claimed to have success with cold fusion, it's never actually

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<v Speaker 1>panned out. He also pursued transmutation. That's the old concept

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<v Speaker 1>from alchemy that involves transforming base materials into gold, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what got him his Ignobel prize. In nineteen ninety eight,

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<v Speaker 1>Troy Hertubi's received an Ignobel Prize for his Ursu's Suit,

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<v Speaker 1>a suit meant to protect the wearer from bear attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>So essentially this was a suit of armor. It's made

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<v Speaker 1>out of titanium and chain mail and hard plastic. Her

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<v Speaker 1>two Bees billed himself as a conservationist who wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>help save animals like grizzly bears, But the tricky thing

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<v Speaker 1>is those animals are super dangerous. Her two b said

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<v Speaker 1>he had been injured in a previous encounter with a

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<v Speaker 1>grizzly bear, so the suit was meant to keep him

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<v Speaker 1>safe in future encounters. He appeared in a National Geographic

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<v Speaker 1>special in which he tested out the suit himself, thus

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<v Speaker 1>earning him the Ignobel Prize for Safety Engineering. You may

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<v Speaker 1>even have seen video of him from one of these

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrations where a pair of people are holding up a

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<v Speaker 1>log that's attached to a pair of ropes. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>essentially a swing right, it's a big log and they

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<v Speaker 1>let it swing loose, and it's swings down and hits

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<v Speaker 1>this armored dude square in the chest, knocking him flat

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<v Speaker 1>in his back. That was her two bees wearing his

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<v Speaker 1>Ursus suit. Tragically, he would much later pass away in

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<v Speaker 1>a car accident. And it's interesting that he had several

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<v Speaker 1>different inventions that he claimed throughout his life, some of which,

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<v Speaker 1>to put it lightly, I would say, are unsubstantiated claims

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<v Speaker 1>of success, like essentially of creating an invisible ray kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing, like a ray that would turn you or

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<v Speaker 1>anything else translucent. At the very least, there never seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be any actual proof of that. But he actually

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<v Speaker 1>did build the Ursu suit. In nineteen ninety nine, an

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<v Speaker 1>inventor named Hyuk Ho Kwan created the self perfuming business suit.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, a business suit that smells real good. According

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<v Speaker 1>to the Harvard Crimson the suit quote emits a pleasant

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<v Speaker 1>fragrance when rubb end quote, so a scratch and sniff suit.

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<v Speaker 1>Quan actually attended the Ignobel ceremony in person. That has

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<v Speaker 1>happened quite a bit. A lot of people have in

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<v Speaker 1>good humor attended the Ignobel Prizes to claim their prize

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<v Speaker 1>in person. So he went to the ceremony and he

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<v Speaker 1>brought with him four custom made self perfuming suits for

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<v Speaker 1>the four Nobel Laureates who were actually in attendance at

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<v Speaker 1>the prizes. That is class. Also, Quan's category was called

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<v Speaker 1>Environmental Protection, which I just think is brilliant. Also in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety nine, the Ignobel Prize awarded Charles Furie and

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle Wong in the category of Peace. So what had

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<v Speaker 1>they done to merit an Ignobel Prize for Peace. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they had patented a car Securities that included not just

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<v Speaker 1>a burglar alarm, but a flamethrower as well, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>to torch the person who's attempting to steal a car,

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<v Speaker 1>which sounds a lot like they had watched RoboCop two,

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<v Speaker 1>which came out in nineteen ninety that included a satirical

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<v Speaker 1>commercial about anti theft device for cars that delivers a

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<v Speaker 1>fatal amount of voltage to the would be thief. And

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they saw that and thought, hey, what if we

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<v Speaker 1>made that but for real and with fire. Unlike Quan,

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<v Speaker 1>they did not attend the ceremony in person. They had

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<v Speaker 1>invented this in South Africa. I actually remember when this

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<v Speaker 1>happened because I remember watching a news segment where they

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<v Speaker 1>covered this particular invention and I thought, that is crazy

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<v Speaker 1>that setting someone on fire could be seen as an

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<v Speaker 1>acceptable option. Yeah, that was a bonker's one. Now we

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<v Speaker 1>get our first prize awarded for software back in two thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>This went to Chris Niewander, who created a program called

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<v Speaker 1>paw Sense. So what did paw Sense do well. Paw

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<v Speaker 1>Sense would detect if a cat happened to be walking

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<v Speaker 1>across your keyboard. It would detect if there were these

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<v Speaker 1>little patches of nonsense texts that were coming in, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it would block in puts from your keyboard in

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<v Speaker 1>order to try and you know, preserve your important report

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<v Speaker 1>for your boss or your teacher. So it didn't include

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<v Speaker 1>absolute gibberish in the middle of it, you know, apart

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<v Speaker 1>from the stuff you put in there yourself. And then

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<v Speaker 1>it would also make a quote sound that annoys the

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<v Speaker 1>cat in the quote, so I guess it was meant

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<v Speaker 1>to scare the cat from standing on top of your keyboard.

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<v Speaker 1>I personally think that was a truly brilliant invention that

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<v Speaker 1>deserves a real Nobel Prize, not an ig Nobel Prize.

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<v Speaker 1>There was also an award for research into a really

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<v Speaker 1>crappy situation, which was namely the quote collapse of toilets

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<v Speaker 1>in Glasgow end quote. This went to researchers who reported

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<v Speaker 1>that due to aging commodes, essentially there were a few

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<v Speaker 1>cases of toilets breaking from underneath the sitter upon the throne,

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<v Speaker 1>which also meant these poor folks suffered some pretty nasty

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<v Speaker 1>cuts and abrasions in the process. It wasn't just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a plumbing issue and potentially humiliating, but also legitimately dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>So they did a study and then an issue a

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<v Speaker 1>report alerting people to this epidemic of breaking toilets. To

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<v Speaker 1>learn more about toilets, you should search the tech stuff archives.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got an episode I recorded with Josh Clark of

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff you Should Know. We talk all about the toilets

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<v Speaker 1>in that one, including some of the world's oldest toilets.

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<v Speaker 1>Flush toilets if you sort of flush toilets, if you

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<v Speaker 1>think of the tides as being your flushing mechanism, which

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<v Speaker 1>I actually visited several years ago. They were in Scotland, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to take another quick break. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to wrap up about these early Ignobel prizes

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<v Speaker 1>awarded in the fields of technology and related subjects. But

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<v Speaker 1>first we need to thank our sponsors. All Right, we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're up to two thousand and one. We get

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<v Speaker 1>another satirical barb. The award for technology went to two

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<v Speaker 1>different recipients, John Keo and the Australian Patent Office. So

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<v Speaker 1>why well, just let me quote you the abstract on

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<v Speaker 1>the patent application that KO had sent in. Quote in

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<v Speaker 1>a court with a first aspect of the present invention,

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<v Speaker 1>there is provided a transportation facilitation device including a circular rim,

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<v Speaker 1>a bearing in which a hollow cylindrical member is rotatable

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<v Speaker 1>around a rod situated within the hollow cylindrical member, and

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<v Speaker 1>in a series of connecting members connecting the circular rim

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<v Speaker 1>with the hollow cylindrical member to maintain the circular rim

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<v Speaker 1>and the hollow cylindrical member in substantially fixed relation, wherein

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<v Speaker 1>the rod is positioned on an axis perpendicular to the

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<v Speaker 1>plane of the circular rim and substantially central of the

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<v Speaker 1>circular rim end. Quote. Now, in case he didn't pick

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<v Speaker 1>up on that he's essentially describing a wheel like a

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<v Speaker 1>bicycle wheel. I mean, that's what the description of the

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<v Speaker 1>invention amounts to. So he applied for a patent for

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<v Speaker 1>the invention of the wheel in two thousand and one.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the kicker, the Australian Patent Office awarded him that patent. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>in case you're thinking he was trying to pull a

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<v Speaker 1>fast one, well sort of. He wanted to put Australia's

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<v Speaker 1>innovation patents to the test. He suspected that the Patent

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<v Speaker 1>Office was giving very little attention to these patents, which

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<v Speaker 1>have a much lower threshold than other types of patents.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd say his demonstration proved his point. He was

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<v Speaker 1>also a patent lawyer, so he was showing how backward

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<v Speaker 1>the system was, how broken it was, and that this

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<v Speaker 1>could cause real headaches and the court systems. Further on

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<v Speaker 1>and later on, the Australian Patent Office would quietly revoke

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<v Speaker 1>the patent for the wheel. I think this really kind

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<v Speaker 1>of ties into the recent episodes I did about the

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<v Speaker 1>history of the US Patent Office. If you remember, in

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<v Speaker 1>those early early years, there was this issue where the

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<v Speaker 1>Patent Office was told it wasn't their job to review patents.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just their job to approve them, and that

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<v Speaker 1>the courts sorted out further down, which means that you

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<v Speaker 1>could have two or three or countless people patent the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same thing. The patent office would have to award

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<v Speaker 1>a patent as long as they got the patent fee,

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<v Speaker 1>the application fee, and then the courts would have to

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<v Speaker 1>decide which patent was the legitimate one, which kind of

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<v Speaker 1>seems like it's a really backwards way and wasteful way

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<v Speaker 1>to do things. That's kind of what Kio was pointing

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<v Speaker 1>out here. So I think the Ignobel Prize was really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of calling out like, yes, this was an absurd

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<v Speaker 1>situation and it did need to be called out like this,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were. I would say, this is more of

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<v Speaker 1>a sincere award. Now, there's something else interesting that happened

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and one as I understand it, which

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<v Speaker 1>is that someone who won an Ignobel Prize would later

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<v Speaker 1>go on to win an actual Nobel Prize, which it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the only time that's happened, but it is the

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<v Speaker 1>first time. But we'll talk about that in the future

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<v Speaker 1>episode instead. For our final entry for this episode. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually going to talk about something that happened in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and five, and that's when the Ignobel Prize for

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<v Speaker 1>Peace went to Claire Rind and Peter Simmons, who had

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<v Speaker 1>published a paper that was titled orthoptren DCMD neuron A

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<v Speaker 1>reevaluation of responses to moving objects one selective responses to

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<v Speaker 1>approaching objects. So Orthoptera is an order of insects that

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<v Speaker 1>includes critters like locusts and grasshoppers. The DCMD neuron stands

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<v Speaker 1>for the descending contralateral movement detector. So essentially, they were

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<v Speaker 1>studying how insects like locusts perceive potential threats, like how

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<v Speaker 1>do they perceive movement and then choose to respond, Like

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<v Speaker 1>how does that actually work? Now? So far, nothing about

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<v Speaker 1>that necessarily sounds like it's worthy of an Ignobel Prize, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's studying in and figuring out, well, what

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<v Speaker 1>is the actual process by which they're able to respond

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<v Speaker 1>to threats. Well, the way they determined it is what

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<v Speaker 1>awarded them the prize. So one of the stimuli they

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<v Speaker 1>tested on these insects was that they showed them Star Wars.

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<v Speaker 1>As in the movie Star Wars. They used that stimuli

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<v Speaker 1>to determine that the insects were actually more likely to

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<v Speaker 1>respond to oncoming objects regardless of their size. And previously

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<v Speaker 1>the hypothesis was that the size of the object was

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<v Speaker 1>the main criterion that the insects responded to, that if

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<v Speaker 1>it was big, they were going to go into flight

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<v Speaker 1>mode rather than if it was smaller. But no, it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out if it was something coming toward them, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what would prompt the response. Now, what I could not

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<v Speaker 1>tell is whether or not the locusts had to sit

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<v Speaker 1>through one of the prequels or if you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the good Star Wars movies. No word

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<v Speaker 1>on that. All right, that's enough for today's episode. I

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<v Speaker 1>will have to come back and do another episode and

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<v Speaker 1>follow up and do some more of these Ignobel prizes

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<v Speaker 1>before too long. They're fun to talk about and once

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<v Speaker 1>in a while, like I said, the stuff we learn

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<v Speaker 1>actually ends up being useful, maybe in ways we didn't anticipate.

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<v Speaker 1>You can sometimes learn valuable things from something that's foolish.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd argue, I'm living proof of that. Okay, that wraps

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<v Speaker 1>up this episode of tech stuff. I hope you are

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<v Speaker 1>all well. I will be back in Atlanta next week,

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<v Speaker 1>so things should return to what passes for normal then,

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