1 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out Hi. First of all, Hi, 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what is going on for 3 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: a person when you say, hey, where are you from? 4 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: And they go all over? And I understand some people 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: do move a lot as kids and as young people. 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: I totally get that. That makes perfect sense to me. 7 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: But I'm sort of like shorthand think fast, where are 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: you from? 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: Like? 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: Where are you from? It could be you lived in 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: North Carolina and then you moved to Massachusetts when you 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: were older. I don't know, but you know, where are 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: you from? But people seem to dodge that question. Not always, 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: but every once in a while, people dodge that question. 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,319 Speaker 1: And this isn't about like xenophobia. We might cut that out. 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just in case you're thinking that. 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: I just mean it's just interesting. You guys know those 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: people where you go where are you from? And they 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: go all over? And I'm like, yeah, but like, just 20 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: say a place, where'd you go to high school? And 21 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: maybe I should change the question. Maybe I'm the problem. 22 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: It's me. 23 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: I should say where did you go to high school? 24 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: But don't tell me the school because I don't know 25 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: ice high school's off hand but like, what city was 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: your high school in? That's what I'll do. But I 27 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: am really curious about the people and their whole I'm 28 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: from all over, and I'm like, why are you making 29 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: me probe you like this? Maybe you're like, bitch, stop 30 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: asking questions, say that to me instead, But I'm from 31 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: all over. I'm like, I guess I'll ask a follow up, 32 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: where'd you go to high school? What city? I'll start 33 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: with that next time. Anyway, just thinking about these interactions 34 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: I have with people, and I'm like, what, hey, just 35 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: say a place, but also do what you want and 36 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: I'll change my question and I'll see how it works 37 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: and i'll report back. People. So happy you're listening to 38 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: this episode, So happy you're here. I cannot wait to 39 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: be speaking with Titus Burgess in just a little bit. 40 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: It's I bet it's gonna be good. I'm excited. So 41 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: watch this as I do that, we need to do 42 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: an introduction. I want to address something first that she 43 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: might be wondering. You even acknowledge it initially about my beat. 44 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: You look great, Thank you so much. It's a beat. 45 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: It's a beat today. 46 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: Are you not normally assaulted? 47 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: No? No, no, I'm going to an event later tonight, 48 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: and I didn't want to have to sit and glab. 49 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: I go exactly, and so I'm I'm actually made up 50 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: for event, but also for you. Oh come on, I 51 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: want to I wasn't come out here no makeup. 52 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: On listen, you look beautiful either way. 53 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 54 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 2: Agrees A beat don't matter. 55 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes you could get from my face and get 56 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: beat in such a fashion that it becomes a problem. 57 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: Like and not in a like coat. 58 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, like put her in a yeah, put her under 59 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: because it's doing too much. Thank you. I just wanted 60 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: to acknowledge because it's giving contours, giving smoke, it's. 61 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: Giving everything great. And also I'm not crying. I'm just 62 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 2: my alergies are like really doing. I was gonna act 63 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: for the past week, Like I walk outside and just 64 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 2: like I can't stop the tears. So Cleriton and those 65 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: are laughing at me, like and and. 66 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: Now I can't. You know, Zertich is one of our sponsors, 67 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: and so now we can't. I'm kidding, kidding. I take 68 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: a zerotic every day. 69 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 2: Does that work? 70 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: It's hard to say. I even got allergy shots at 71 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: one point. So this this little segment is for the 72 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 1: allergy community. 73 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: Perfect. 74 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: I took, I took. I take their take every day. 75 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: I do flow naise every day. And I got allergy shots, 76 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: but they were kind of I thought they worked. 77 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: And then because we live in such an unsanitary environment. 78 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: Potentially yes, and there's a lot of debris to irritate 79 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: our interiors. And that's that sounds like an official doctor 80 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: every to irritate. 81 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 82 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: All Right, you'll go to talk to the nurse and 83 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: then come back. I need to do an intro for you, 84 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: all right. My next guest is a six time Emmy 85 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: nominated actor and singer. You've seen him recently as Mary 86 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: Todd Lincoln and the Tony Award winning play Oh Mary, 87 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: Songs for a New World and The Cat in the 88 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: Hat out in November twenty. That's coming out soon. 89 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: Titus Burgess should have correct you know, it didn't win 90 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: the Tony. Okay, so it was felt surprise nominated. 91 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 3: It was nominated, though, Okay, whoever wrote this, I'm getting 92 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: up there going okay to share that gotta be fired 93 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 3: someone it job. 94 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: Okay. No, we're not rejoicing people saying somebody wrote this though. 95 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: This is the setup and this is another it's a 96 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: hit job. All right, I'm going to do it again, 97 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: and they should keep that in because I want people 98 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: to know this shit is not perfect. Right. That's the 99 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: problem with entertainment is we try to make everything look perfect, 100 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: in my opinion, and. 101 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,119 Speaker 2: It trickles down into real life. 102 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: Yes, and you're like, everything's got to look and feel perfect. 103 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: But you don't even realiz that you're operating until that 104 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: governance on autopilot. But that is our day to day 105 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 2: and it's unrealistic. 106 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: I when did you realize you were operating in that way? 107 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: Oh? I see, perhaps around forty my body started responding 108 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: to stimuli differently and to people's influence differently, and I 109 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: began to have this knee jerk reaction to being well, 110 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: I call it brutally honest. But I'll just say honest 111 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: because people take it as brutality because most of the 112 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: world operates in these strange niceties. 113 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: Oh, talk to me about it, and let's talk about 114 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: the difference between nice and kind. 115 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 2: And I don't know what to do with that. 116 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: I know I don't either, So we're family, frank. 117 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: Yes, by all means, yes, you know I know what 118 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 2: to do. I grew up in a family that they 119 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 2: were blunt, and we just said what you meant, that's 120 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: what we meant. And there was no filter and there 121 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 2: was no buffer, no cushion, you know, no softening the blow. 122 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: And eventually that became comforting. 123 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: M that's what It's familiarity. It's yeah, it's what It's 124 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: how you were raised. And it's like, this is what 125 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: I know, and so this is now how I operate. 126 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: And now that I'm in a world outside of this community, 127 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: it's being received a differently. 128 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 2: And even when I got to New York, I thought 129 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 2: it was going to be pardon me. I thought it 130 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: would resemble the way I grew up. But I realized 131 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: the articulated the influence of PC culture had done a 132 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: number on New York City culture. 133 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: It made its way here, it made. 134 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 2: Its way here, and you know, I was searching for, 135 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: you know, the funk off, you know. Yeah. But and 136 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: now what I feel has happened is that PC culture 137 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: is gone, and political culture has influenced our day to 138 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: day culture. And now we have returned to a more 139 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 2: frank and Byron. But it's frank in the name of 140 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: cruelty and not frank in the name of me being 141 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 2: clear about what my intentions are with you, and that 142 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: is disappointing. 143 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: It's that's tough to navigate, I feel like, and I 144 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: it's interesting that some people conflate that frankness and directness 145 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: with cruelty just inherently, but it's like, oh no, my 146 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: intent is to be direct with you and to be 147 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: efficient and make sure you're understanding what I'm communicating and 148 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: so that you're not like waffling and unclear about what 149 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: it is I'm trying to say to you. I'm not 150 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: here to hurt you. I'm just here to communicate because TikTok. 151 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, my I think the thing that I want most 152 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: out of life is not to waste time, because there's 153 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: still little of it. And if the closest route is 154 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 2: or the way to bridge the gap is to be frank, 155 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: then that's what I'm gonna do. And I want you 156 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: to do with me, because I don't want you to 157 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: waste time. 158 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, you want it to do and I do have 159 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: shit to do and it's doing. No go to a 160 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: gall to night, but first I need to intro you again. 161 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: And we have to also see to it that whoever 162 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: wrote this initially has to be fired tonight. You who 163 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:06,559 Speaker 1: I'm kidding? 164 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: Okay. 165 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: My next guest is an Emmy nominated actor and singer. 166 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: You've seen him recently as Mary Todd Lincoln in the 167 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: Tony nominated play Oh Mary. Songs for a New World, 168 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: The Cat and the Hat out November twenty twenty six. 169 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: Titus Burgess, how did we do? Baby? 170 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: You're doing so fact checked good. 171 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: And we're good. Okay, Okay, So now you grew up 172 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: in Georgia. That's great, right, So you were people were 173 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: being frank in Georgia. That is interesting to me because 174 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: I equate like the southern hospitality with a little bit 175 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: of the nice cities that is more of. 176 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: A white people thing. Okay, Black people didn't have time 177 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: for that. And I'm not talking like I grew up 178 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: in the civil rights air because I didn't. But you know, 179 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: my I grew up in the sticks in a town 180 00:08:55,440 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 2: called Lexton, Georgia, and all of the diggings people will 181 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: see at Ins, Georgia, and that's where I went to school, 182 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 2: and my parents are still there and all that stuff. 183 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: But I grew up on a farm. We raised chickens, hogs, 184 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: chickens hogs, and I love farm life. My mom and 185 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 2: I lived with my grandparents, her mom and dad and 186 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: funny stories. My mother I thought she was my sister 187 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: because from birth to about seven years old, I heard 188 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: her call my grandmother mom. Okay, yeah, so I called 189 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: grandma mom. Oh so when my mom. I'll never forget 190 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: this about Oh I was six years old. I forget 191 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: what I had done. I'm an only child. And and 192 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 2: also pisces. We can get. 193 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: Pisces is everywhere. You're tending not to cry and it's allergies, 194 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: but it's actually tears. He's emotional today. That's right there. 195 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 1: It's my allergy. 196 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: But we can'tnot be. 197 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: I feel everything deeply. 198 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to report on it, yes, yes, like 199 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: I might if I don't get this out of the way. 200 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. My sister's like, you're sober both you need 201 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: to talk things out and talk it through and don't 202 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: you And she's like, no, I process internally. She goes, 203 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: you're an external processor. I'm an internal processor, and I'm 204 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: like you should be an external processor like me. 205 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: It sings out like I don't know. I don't know 206 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: how it's to be even tell people that I date, 207 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: which okay, I also talk. 208 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: Well, I know because we talked the same way. This 209 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: is going to be a chaotic episode. We did the 210 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: intro five minutes into the conversation, so blame it on 211 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: astrology today. So wait, this thing happened. I'm going to 212 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: I'll remember the dating, but six years old. A thing 213 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: happened when you were six pisces, my mom child. 214 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: Ye, my mom tried to reprimmand me and she was 215 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: giving me a little spanking. And I said, I'm gonna 216 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: tell my mama, and she why did I do that? 217 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: She looked at me and she said what And I said, 218 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell my MoMA, and she goes, I am 219 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: your mama, and then she just took a beat and 220 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: I could see the whole scene. I could see her 221 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: recalibrate in real time. And I swear to God, I 222 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: go the The next week, my mom had an apartment 223 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: in Athens, Georgia, and we had moved out. 224 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, because she knew she oh, he doesn't understand. 225 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: He doesn't understand. 226 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: It's it's like being like, can I speak to the manager? 227 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: And the person's like, I am exactly, that's exactly right. Wow, 228 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: and so ready to. 229 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 2: Because I thought I had been ripped away from my parents, 230 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: and it took about a year and a half or so. Well, 231 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: you should also know that every summer, okay, since I 232 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: was an only child, every summer up until I was 233 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 2: in high school old enough to say on my own, 234 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: I would go and live with my grandparents because my 235 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: mom worked a nine to five and she wasn't I couldn't, 236 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: you know, take care of myself. She didn't want to 237 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: pawn me off on her sisters or brother. She rarely 238 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: let me spend the night with anyone else. And so 239 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 2: I went to spend the night with my grandparents, and 240 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: so I had this relationship with them that is deeper 241 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: than the the other. You know, forty of my first 242 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 2: cousins had and I'm not joking, I have like forty first, guy. 243 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: Forty first, how many siblings did your mom have? 244 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 2: She had three sisters and four brothers. 245 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: Okay, And then are you including four cousins on your 246 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: dad's side. Also, when you say, oh. 247 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: No, dad's dead, no, he's very much alive. 248 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: He's alive but dead to you, Okay, it's thanks dad. 249 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: I also want to interrupt this. This is regularly scheduled 250 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: programming to say, not only are Titus and I both prices, 251 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: we're both wearing white shirts. What does it mean? 252 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: What it mean? Transparency? 253 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: It means, oh yeah, we're going to be transparent here, 254 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: We're going to be friend on this one. 255 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: Okay, tell me what's my biological father. My sperm donor 256 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: lived about twelve minutes away from my mom and I 257 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 2: my entire life. And he has a son, another son 258 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: who's older than I am, who was in and out 259 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: of jail. My dad was not great with money, didn't 260 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: like to pay child support. I remember this one event 261 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: where he knocked down This was in our my mom's 262 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: and i's first apartment, knocked down the door and storry 263 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: to choke her because she had called him asking about 264 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: child support. We had just moved. She did to the 265 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: additional support, and the phone conversation escalated, escalated, escalated, and 266 00:13:55,520 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: then about ten minutes later and I I just had 267 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: they're frozen because I didn't quite know what to do 268 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: and what was I gonna do? 269 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, you were sevenish, right. 270 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 2: My mom and I've never talked about this. Is my 271 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: dad and I have never just spoken about this, but 272 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 2: I remember. 273 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: You remember, and so how did that de escalate. How 274 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: did that situation end? 275 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: My mom ga asking for hair, and my dad sort 276 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: of he's not my father, my stepdad is my dad, 277 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: my biological father, sort of realizing coming to his senses this, this, 278 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: this is enough. And I was screaming, and I think 279 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: the terror, you know, Emmy must have you know, gotten 280 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: somewhere inside whatever's left of his paternal instinct to say, 281 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: oh this is scary. You know, I should stop. Anyways, 282 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: I this is you know, this type of frankness has 283 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: only happened with I'm gonna forget his. 284 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: Name, Mark Marrin. Yes, what the f And now his 285 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: podcast is so maybe this can be Yes fill the void. 286 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: It started before we were starting, were talking about I 287 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: do that. 288 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: Do you think my eye contact is intense? 289 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: No, I don't care. It's it is intense, but it 290 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: feels familiar to me, so it doesn't scare me. 291 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: Okay, I only know. 292 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: I don't know how to talk about the weather me. 293 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: Either, though. That's why I have a podcast like this, 294 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: Like I do comedy, but I'm like, let's be for real. 295 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: I think what do you make of it? Okay? So 296 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 2: your your comedy has such an interesting subtectual energy okay, 297 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: and I love it, and I think it is fueled 298 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: with honesty and just a shred of the truth enough 299 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: that it's funny because it's true, right, And and the 300 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: way you represent the different sects of African American culture, 301 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: which you are not African American, correct, I. 302 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: Am African American American. I am African American. I'm for 303 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: Generation Nigerian, but I grew up born and raised in Baltimore, 304 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: so like that, but I am African American. 305 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: True Africans. 306 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: Get some of them, do you know? I can't speak 307 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: to their experience, but I'm I'm not I genuinely I'm 308 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: not them. I'm a black woman. 309 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: Check. 310 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: Proud of that. African American woman, check, proud of that. 311 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: Her generation Nigerian woman, check, proud of that. Like, so, 312 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: I don't relate to the part that no part of 313 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: me wants to deny any part of my identity. I'm 314 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: like very proud to be So perhaps maybe that is. 315 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: What they are experiencing when they have such a strong 316 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: response to being lumped in with. 317 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah people, yeah, I don't. I mean, I'm like, there's 318 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: no lumping I'm like, I'm all of these things. I'm 319 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: all of these things at once, and I don't. They 320 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: just don't resonate with much of the distinction. For myself, 321 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm just sort of like, I'm all of the things. 322 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: Right When you're like, you're African American, I'm like, literally, yeah, 323 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: African American, Nigerian American. But I don't feel the need 324 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: to be like, but I'm I'm this, I'm only this, 325 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: and I only want to be seen as this. I'm 326 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: all these things. Nigerian parents born and raised in Baltimore, Maryland, Like. 327 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 2: How can do you go back to Nigeria. 328 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: I haven't been back to Nigeria since I was nineteen. 329 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: It's been a long time, and I'm what twenty three, 330 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm twenty Yeah, I'm not twenty three. But I do 331 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: have a lot of family there. Thank you. I was 332 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: hoping you would say I do have. Some of my 333 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: mom's siblings are there. 334 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: Do you talk to them? 335 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: Do you I talked to my aunts and uncles. Yeah, 336 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: some of them are in Jersey, some are in England. 337 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: My cousin is a famous soccer player for Arsenal Moms. 338 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: My mom's sisters is he Hotah? 339 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: Is the wad to say? 340 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: I can't say that about my cousin. He's a handsome 341 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: young man, but they're like he and his brothers are 342 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: just like upstanding young men that make me really truly 343 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: excited and hopeful if you will, for the future future 344 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: young men, and like they're just such lovely and wise 345 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: individuals and they're younger than I am, and I'm like, 346 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: I love talking to them. 347 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 2: And do you think that's a familial influence that are 348 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 2: all y'all are just just natural born intuitive thinkers and 349 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 2: do gooders in the world. 350 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if everyone is, but I think a 351 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: lot of my my, my siblings, my cousins, I think are. 352 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: But I'm deeply impressed with these British boys. I genuinely am, 353 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: Like they just are deeply, deeply impressive to me. But 354 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: I feel like people quite literally don't give a shit 355 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: what's going on with me. No, I don't understand. No, 356 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: because it's the tightest Burgess episode. So I'm like, I'm 357 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, But you're doing what I 358 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: do because I'm like, well, I'll help you because I 359 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: have a couple more questions. No, no, no, no, no, I'm 360 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: not We're dancing. We're dancing, and it's not so there's 361 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: no leader. It's something else. 362 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: So I'll tell you something else. I don't know if 363 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: you have this. I have great difficulty being the center 364 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:39,479 Speaker 2: of attention. 365 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: I do have it. I know that's strange to be like, 366 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: oh and I have a podcast and I'm a performer, 367 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: but you relate and they're like no, I get very 368 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: like don't look at me. And then also people perceive 369 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: it as like a different thing, like attitude, and I'm like, 370 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: it's actually the little. 371 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: People. People misconstrue a natural in all right. So while 372 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 2: we are external processors, we are natural introverts and I 373 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 2: am a natural born recluse. I don't need a lot 374 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: of outside simulation, nor do I want it, nor do 375 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: I want a lot of attention. Now, the difference is 376 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 2: we know how to handle the attention when it. 377 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: And I only do sometimes. 378 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 2: But yes, well yes, but what I mean is when 379 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: don't confuse me being the lead of a show or 380 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: or the having me my own podcast or anything with 381 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 2: my name on. I'm number one of the call sheet 382 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 2: with me wanting to form a walk in life to 383 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 2: look like that. 384 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: And that is that's actually a word and a sermon 385 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: right now that you are that's true. I do resonate 386 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: with that. That is completely. That feels very accurate to me. 387 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: So you are not necessarily interested in being center of 388 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: attention when people give you compliments like it, because that. 389 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 2: Means they love me. If they didn't pay attention, I'd 390 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: be fucked. Okay, But but I don't seek it out 391 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 2: and I just don't need. That is not what fuels me. 392 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 2: That's not what I don't like to go to two parties. 393 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 2: I don't enjoy the red carpet. I don't care to 394 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: give quick sound, and I hate going on TV shows 395 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 2: because I'm not funny. 396 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: Are you mad to be here right now? Said? You 397 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: heard it? 398 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: By the way, because I because long form, I know 399 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: what to do with it right right. 400 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: Also, I didn't actually think you hated it. I just 401 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: was like it would be maybe funny if you did 402 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: say I'm not happy to be here with you. 403 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: It's different, Yeah, this is different. I don't feel the 404 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: the the pressure to beyond. 405 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm so glad, and I don't want I want 406 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: the I want the real Titus. I relate to so 407 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: much of what you're saying. I really I feel it. 408 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm feeling it so much. Now you said you don't 409 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: want to go to parties. You don't like doing the 410 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: red carpet. Red carpet is really intense and people don't 411 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: talk about it's not so. 412 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: You get to dress up and I'm like, look at me, 413 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 2: you think I want to put on Well. 414 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: Also, the reason I have a full beat on, like 415 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: to the gods right now, is because I'm like, I 416 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: don't want to sit for this again. Later. I'm like, 417 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: one done, let it be done. And so I have 418 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: a thing to go to five hours from now, and 419 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, do it in a way where I can 420 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: have it five hours from now and not have to 421 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: sit again, because I also I don't I don't say 422 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: I hate sitting for glam, but it's like it starts. 423 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: It becomes a whole production to show up to one 424 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: red carpet for one second, and it's and it's like 425 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: you better nail it, and you better nail that pose, 426 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: and you better get the is. 427 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 2: The output of energy, or rather the conservation and desire 428 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: for preservation of energy that is so intrinsically a part 429 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: of who we are that participating in something, even just 430 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: sitting there is give you energy, you know what I mean? 431 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: And if I got to go do this thing. Then 432 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 2: I need you to make this as fast as possible. 433 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: Because I'm like, I'm using so much energy here, the 434 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: energy budget, there's never there's never enough hours in the day. Yeah, 435 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: it's a song. Someone sent me a song called energy budget, 436 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: and one day it's this woman is declaring various various 437 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: uh things about her energy budget and what she doesn't 438 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: have time for. It's more it's a song. She's actually 439 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: just talking and it's mantras. 440 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 2: It feels like I love it. 441 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: I'll send it to you. But you don't like going out, 442 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: you don't like doing that whole thing dating. You were 443 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: going to say something about you being an external processor, 444 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: how you're dating, right, So. 445 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: I think I need to get like, I think they 446 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: need to ask my astrologist to do my chart again, 447 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: to tell me what I'm most compatible with, because you know, 448 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: my so, I was just I was in a ten 449 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 2: ten year relationship that ended four years ago. He and 450 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: I are best friend, he's family, and Pablo taught me 451 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 2: so much about myself. Okay, and so I helped Pablo 452 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 2: go to school, to school for psychology. Papa brought me 453 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 2: this book called HSP Highly Sensitive People m and and 454 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 2: that acronym is a bit of an over simplification of 455 00:22:53,920 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: what the actual condition is. And it basically there's a 456 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: percentage of the twenty percent of the population, and medical 457 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: experts are divided on whether or not this is a 458 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 2: real thing or not. But there's a precentage of the 459 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: population that is overstimulated, that processes a lot of information 460 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 2: at once, and our natural impaths and to a fault 461 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 2: where you can't determine decipher what energy is yours and 462 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: what has been deposited or inherited without your conscious I 463 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: accept this as my own or not my own. And 464 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 2: one of the things that occurred while we were together 465 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: was the more I realized what was happening, and when 466 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: I realized that he and I were not compatible. Oh, 467 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 2: it was almost like he gave you the book to 468 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: leave him. 469 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: Oh wow, he had no idea. Okay, what did you 470 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: read in the book that made you be that I 471 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: can't be with Pablo An. 472 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: I read the whole book and it was a slow 473 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: gestation of this is who I am, has nothing, has 474 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: less to do with Pava and who who I, thanks 475 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: to him, had realized I always was and I am 476 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: now becoming more of and that is the ability to 477 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: fight for myself, speak up for myself, say out loud, 478 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: I don't, I can't be here, and not just roll 479 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: over and take it. Because we are we put other 480 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: people's feelings and needs before our own. Even to say, Pablo, 481 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 2: I can't sleep with you and not I me like 482 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 2: have sex, I mean like I have to I have 483 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: to go be in a bed by myself, because even 484 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 2: at rest, that is an exchange of energy when you 485 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: are in the same space with someone, and it is 486 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: so important, which is why you want your beat five 487 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 2: hours before in a way, because sitting in that chair 488 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 2: is absorbing the energy of the person who is doing it. 489 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: Wait, Titus, am I an HSP? Do you think I think? 490 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: Not me discovering I'm an HSP? Because well, also, I 491 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: don't like sleepovers. I don't like sleepovers at all. I like, 492 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: I need to wake up in my I need to wait. 493 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: I don't care if I'm getting home at seven am. 494 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: Someone be like just stay here. I'm like, I have 495 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: to wake up in my. 496 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: It's not about sanitation sanitizing. It is wanting not to 497 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 2: have to sanitize the energy. Oh oh, a space that 498 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 2: you are not. 499 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: Wait, why do legitimately I need the book. I need 500 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: the book. And mind you, when you said you have 501 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: an astrologer, I have been known to say that I 502 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: don't like I'll shout out that I'm a Pisces all 503 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: the time, and then I'll be like, I don't really 504 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: believe in astrology. Fun, heyha, I like to read the horoscopes. 505 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: If I see a moon omens on Instagram or something, 506 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: or astrology or or co star, I'm like, I want 507 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: to read it. I want to see if this applies. 508 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: So I'm not like a hard no, but it's like 509 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: a thing that's like playful for me. But for you, 510 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: you have an astrologer. When did you start to get 511 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: into astrology and what was that journey for you? 512 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 2: Well, I've always like read people's horoscopes and such whatever, 513 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: and I always seemed rather accurate, and I would read 514 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 2: more than one person's recanting of a particular sign on 515 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: a particular day, okay, to cross reference and figure out 516 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 2: if any of this has any merit to it. I 517 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: don't do this often. I do like once a year 518 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: where I get to read my chart or whatever, but 519 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: I'm always and I also have a a spiritual guide. 520 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: Her name is Joya Okay, and she people what is 521 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: going on? 522 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: She says, he's a piss he's crying. He's got a 523 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: spiritual guid in astrologer, I need it. Okay, past and 524 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: you have a pastor. 525 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: Her name is doctor Jackie Lewis. 526 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: Doctor Jackie Lewis, Middle. 527 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: Collegiate church down in the Lower East Side. Okay, with 528 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 2: all these people because they all offer different things. You know, 529 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: you have your pediatrician, you have your gonecologists, you have 530 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 2: your they're all doctors, but they're all different and so 531 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 2: but if you have. 532 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: A pediatrician, you don't have a guy because I'll just say, 533 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: but you might have your internal medicine physicians. 534 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 2: And so astrologer I I she did my chart and 535 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: I was just blown away at you know, the actors. 536 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 2: And she goes, don't tell anything else about you. And 537 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: I gave herm my middle name. Okay, so she couldn't 538 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: look me up or anything of that. 539 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: Can I ask what it is? 540 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 2: Or is that Wemont? My mom got Titus from the Bible? Okay, 541 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: Titus is the shortest book. 542 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: It is, yes, yes, okay, and uh. 543 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: Lamont from San Fernecean. So that tells you a lot about. 544 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: Okay, did she go with Titus because she liked the 545 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: name or because she liked that it was the shortest 546 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: book in the Bible. 547 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 2: I think she liked the name. And then, you know, 548 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: do you believe people grow into a name? 549 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: I do, because I grew into Ago. 550 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 2: What is it? 551 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: What does mean Ago? Literally in Ebo, which is my name, 552 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: is Ebo means money. My family is part of a 553 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: tribe called the People. It's a small tribe, but my 554 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: name is. 555 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 2: Ebo and that's the currency in the tribe. 556 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: It means well, no, Ebo means money. The word Ebo 557 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: means money. And then my full name is Ego Booma, 558 00:27:52,880 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: which means money is good. Okay, interesting, but yeah, I 559 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: actually was like, why is this why I don't I 560 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 1: don't want to have a name that's like celebrating money. 561 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 2: But then my mom would. 562 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: Tell me my child is my Well, money is not 563 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: inherently bad. It's the love of money, and people forget that, 564 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: don't They forget that? The love of money? But I'm like, 565 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: I don't need to celebrate money anyway. Point is a 566 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: go of it all. I dealt with people calling me 567 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: Ego when I was younger, and be like freud like 568 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: or Lego my ago very much a big marketing campaign 569 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: happening during my childhoods. I dealt with a lot of 570 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: Lego my agos because I came home and I was like, 571 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: they're making fun of my name. And my aunt was like, 572 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: you go out there and you make fun of them 573 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: right back. And that's what I did. And so and 574 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: then there was a period in middle school where people 575 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: would be like, you know, I went to elementary school 576 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: with a lot of the same people went to middle school. 577 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: Then it became a hodgepodge of people from other elementary schools, 578 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: and people meet me and be like, Lego my ago. 579 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: I'd go, no, yeah, and it worked every time. I 580 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: was like, I'm like, I've heard that before, and I'll 581 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: say to people, go, oh my god, I never heard that. 582 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: You grew into your name. 583 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: She chose it right. So Titus was an apprentice to 584 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: the apostle Paul. Paul loved Titus on the Island of 585 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: Crete to spread uh the good word, and Titus means 586 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 2: little warrior, and. 587 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: It means the warrior warrior. I said little, but okay, 588 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: you said like a Baltimore person because they said little, 589 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: little that's little but okay, but okay, it was. 590 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: It was warrior, and I have often felt like I 591 00:29:54,960 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: was leading the charge on the misunders Did I even 592 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 2: still feel that way. Nothing fills me with rage then, 593 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: and I means me today that means to walk around 594 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: full of rage all the time. But nothing fills me 595 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 2: with raged more than people being misunderstood and not seeing 596 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: da da da. And that's such that that also is 597 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: so heavily used that it might not carry the weight 598 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: that it should. But you know, we we walk in 599 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: a roll where now people are seeking out to be missed, 600 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: to misunderstand people, to prevent the the bridging of the gaps. 601 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: As I said when we first sat down, because my 602 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 2: desire is to be frank and honest, and so I 603 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: don't know that my mom did all of that research 604 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 2: to choose my name, but I feel like I once 605 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 2: I realized that that was because I had the same 606 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 2: thing that called me Titus, I mean Tyler. They would 607 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: call me Tito tiger tight ass, which you know I 608 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: grew into that. 609 00:30:54,920 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: Toots your workout, I have a trainer, so okay, okay, 610 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: of course, but okay. 611 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: Which is but as a kid, that wasn't fun, you know, 612 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: yeah and so, but I grew into it and I 613 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: know own it. 614 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: That's how I feel about Ago. When I was eighteen, 615 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: I moved across the country from Baltimore to LA for college. 616 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: And then there's my mom at one point was like, 617 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: if you don't like your name so much, you can 618 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: start going by your middle name. And then I was like, no, 619 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 1: I have earned the badge and a I've lived with this, 620 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: like during the hardest time to have the name Ago, 621 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: I feel, but the lego my Ago marketing campaign as 622 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: a child, I'm like, I earned this. I'm a go now. 623 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: I will not go to LA and be like I'm 624 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: a different name. Which once I got to LA for college, 625 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: there were so many people in my freshman class that 626 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: I knew in the little group that I knew who's 627 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: were going by their middle names. They had like made 628 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: the switch. People who moved from New York or elsewhere. 629 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: Was like, in my people do that, especially when you 630 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 2: go to a place where no one already knows you. Yeah, 631 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 2: just so you can walk walk in with a different identity. 632 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: I think that's oh, I think it is to walk 633 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: in with a different identity. And but it's interesting because 634 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: by the time I was that age and had made 635 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: the choice to move across the country. I feel like 636 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: the person who made the move to move across the 637 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: country and made that bold move was ago. So to 638 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: go and show up and be like, and now my 639 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: name is my middle name would feel crazy to me 640 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: because I'm like, people are gonna ask and it's not. 641 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: I love my name. It's Kalechi. It's what my mom 642 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: wanted to name me. My dad picked my name, you know, 643 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: I interrogated her. Callechi. Thank God, thank god, God, thanks, 644 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: thank you. Thanks. Maybe the podcast should be Kella Dad. 645 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: Thanks Dad. Maybe maybe we'll think about it. Just let's 646 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: talk after I don't know, we have to do all 647 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: the branding over again, and somebody can we get somebody 648 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: on that the person we fired about the intro get 649 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: them back. I need him to redo the branding. Okay, 650 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: So astrology, I do want to know if you'm your 651 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: mom named you after a book of the Bible. You 652 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: go to a church on the Lower east Side, so 653 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: you do have your own faith. So how did astrology 654 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: get introduced? 655 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 2: How did you meet this incomplete? 656 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: No, not at all, but not in my mind, But 657 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: how did it get introduced to you, because I feel 658 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: like often people are like, I have this one thing, 659 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: and this one thing in terms of spirituality is enough 660 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: for me. I meditate, I do your. 661 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 2: God made the stars, God made the moon. They did everything, 662 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: they them. 663 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: They them, Okay, just fair enough, because. 664 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 2: They're in you, there in me. 665 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 666 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 2: Sure, it's a short answer. 667 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: Sure, okay, I will fight you on it. No, no, no, no. 668 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 2: I I think that they offer so many resources to 669 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 2: find them because they realize that we are such narrow 670 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 2: minded thinkers and often we'll cut our nose off spite 671 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 2: our face. Uh. And so they widespread themselves so that 672 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 2: there's a path to something that resonates with you, that 673 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 2: you might be illuminated and vibrate on a much higher plane, 674 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 2: and you can walk around with that as the singular 675 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 2: thing that is. But if you do that, you are bound. 676 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 2: You are destined to run into all the other ways 677 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: that they are here. 678 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 679 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. 680 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: There's a book I love, Barking to the Choir by 681 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: Father Gregory Boyle. Do you know who that is? He 682 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: is a priest who I'm not Catholic, but he is 683 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: a priest. I can read a book. I just think 684 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: that people go, oh, so you're Catholic when I say 685 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: I read this book, and no, I'm just curious. I've 686 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 1: read all kinds of books. But he is a Catholic 687 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: priest who runs the biggest gang rehabilitation program in the 688 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 1: world in la And in reading that book, I remember 689 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: some quote and I'm going to bastardize it slightly, but 690 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: essentially he's like, there's nothing beyond the sanctity of God, 691 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: which in his point in the little section I was 692 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: reading there was just like we put God in boxes. 693 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 1: We put God in boxes we can understand, and God 694 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: is so much bigger and that resonates with me also, 695 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: and I'm like, so, yeah, to your point, they're not 696 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: in conf like how did you find your astrologist? I 697 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: don't need to keep driving home. I'm just like, always 698 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: so curious. 699 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 2: I have. 700 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: I talked to a spiritual coach too, but I'm like, 701 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: how did I get here? 702 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 2: A psychic and an astrologist? And I was like, let 703 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 2: me do this astrologist right, And so I gave her 704 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 2: my my middle name. I gave her the time that 705 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 2: I was born and the location. Okay, and that was it, 706 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 2: and she went on on a tear. I learned things 707 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 2: about She revealed things about myself that I had long suspected, 708 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 2: and she, you know, that, sort of confirmed it. And 709 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 2: now that I have put into practice some of the 710 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 2: things that I learned that were lying dormant, I'm eager 711 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 2: to do it again to to now that I'm coming 712 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 2: with a different energy, it's a different time. This is 713 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 2: also like maybe like the last one was a year 714 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: and a half. 715 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: Ago, so it's time. 716 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 2: It's time just to see. And I'm in pursuit of 717 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 2: a different I'm in pursuit of integrating the titles. I 718 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 2: have to come back into the world. I sort of 719 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 2: retreat it for a bit, not not it has nothing 720 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 2: to do with work, just being a member of society, 721 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 2: and I'm anxious to see how the world responds to him. 722 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm hopeful. 723 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 2: I am too. 724 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm hopeful, I really really am. Now you've been in 725 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 1: this recluse mode sort of working on things. You broke 726 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:29,959 Speaker 1: up with the problem four years ago. 727 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm very single. 728 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: Yes. Is that so when you were talking about not 729 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,240 Speaker 1: wanting to sleep with someone like in the same baths 730 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: of the energy exchange, How are you in terms of 731 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: dating now? In this stage you're in are we single intentionally? 732 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: Do you? 733 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: Are you curious about partnership. 734 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 2: I'm very cute about partnership. Okay, for let me start 735 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 2: with the big thing, and then I'll tell you about. 736 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 1: A date that I had two nights ago. 737 00:36:54,200 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 2: So I believe that I definitely, I desperately am desires 738 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 2: of being a wife. 739 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: You want to be a wife? Have you always wanted 740 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: to be a wife? 741 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 2: No? 742 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: When did this happen? In the In the years you've 743 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: been working on the. 744 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 2: Years of working, I realized that my insatiable desire to 745 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 2: take care of someone, I have an insatiable desire to 746 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 2: take care of people. I can't help it. And even 747 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 2: when I walk down the street, I have to not 748 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 2: look people in the eye because I can see into 749 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 2: your soul. And you can too. Yeah, and and and 750 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 2: I and I and and and people. You you said 751 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: something way earlier about people take they miss they misconstrued 752 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 2: you're not even retreating, but holding your energy close to 753 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 2: your person as being egotistical or or or flippant or 754 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 2: stand office And it's anything but. And so I you know, 755 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 2: just in life, I'm like, oh no, because I will, 756 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 2: I will connect myself with you in a way that 757 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,439 Speaker 2: I don't have time for or wish to. But once 758 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 2: I make the connection, the connection is made and fall 759 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: through with it anyway. So with partnership, I feel that 760 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 2: I'm being called to do something else by them in 761 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 2: the world, and that calling is going to force me 762 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 2: to not participate in such frivolity. 763 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: Okay, and my frivolity mean. 764 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 2: I mean I'm I love men, okay. And the door 765 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 2: has revolved, yes, okay, you know in my past, and 766 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 2: I just want to slow the door. 767 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: Down like we're revisiting exis. 768 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just kind of I And also it's exhausting, 769 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 2: you know. And I want the energy to be the 770 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 2: temperature that I set that we decide on together. And 771 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 2: I want, you know, more fur babies. And I want 772 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 2: my good to not be evil spoken of because you 773 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 2: have to explain what you're do in your private life 774 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 2: as a celebrity that no one's going to the they 775 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 2: remove that past, that you are a human, they immediately 776 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 2: I want to know what's going on, you know. And 777 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 2: and I while I can walk around be like, oh 778 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 2: that's not your amazingess, it'll it'll. 779 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: Get it'll get out there there. And so if you 780 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,760 Speaker 1: don't want somebody to know something. 781 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 2: You're going to make sure they figure it out, and 782 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 2: so I just want and let me. I don't want 783 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 2: that for that reason, but I do realize that in 784 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 2: my ask there are things that I have to leave 785 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 2: behind because you have to make room for new things, right, 786 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 2: And so that's part of it. And I'm in the 787 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 2: words of India Irea, I'm quiet, I'm ready for love. 788 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 2: I come on, there's something has risen up in me 789 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 2: that I walk around with and I'm not searching for 790 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 2: me as as much as I was in the past. 791 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,479 Speaker 2: I feel found where where I am and I feel 792 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 2: founding out that I'm ready to share it with whoever 793 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 2: you are. 794 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: And you don't worry that it will deplete you. 795 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 2: No, okay no, because I now know, thanks to Pablo, 796 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,720 Speaker 2: what is a what is properly being yoked? Equally yoked? 797 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 1: I just asked a friend this on a voice note, 798 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: no joke a week ago. What do you go on 799 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: what I said? What is equally yoked. 800 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 2: Mean to you? When you were in the presence of 801 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 2: the other person and you are not thinking, you are 802 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 2: not searching for your peace, It is just there, the 803 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 2: same way God is just here. They don't need you 804 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 2: to prove or disprove it. That love is before you 805 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 2: and after you, and right now that is the same 806 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 2: energy I want in God, in the. 807 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: Flesh, peace, peace, I see Okay, I get it, I 808 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: get it. I hear you. I have to know about 809 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: the state. 810 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 2: Okay. Well this is harkening back to Pablo give me 811 00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 2: that book and me going, oh, I got to sleep 812 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 2: my though. 813 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: So we were in bed and you and the guy 814 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,479 Speaker 1: on the data problem okay, okay, And it was great 815 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: and he's wonderful and you know, fine, I don't know 816 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: that he's my forever person, but do you want to? 817 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 2: But if he sees this, I don't care. He he 818 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 2: is very mature. And before the date started and we 819 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 2: had food and we're watching the TV or whatever, and 820 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 2: I was answering emails and stuff and I kept apologizing 821 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 2: because I do your life like this is so embryonic, 822 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 2: like I don't, and I'm in your space and I 823 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 2: if we were together, you wouldn't. You wouldn't not be 824 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 2: doing what you need to do. So let me see it. 825 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: Wow, your piece, I know your piece. 826 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 2: But I get hot in the bed, okay. 827 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 1: Temperature wise, so cuddling you hate it. 828 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 2: I love cuddling. 829 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: But but then in practically practice. 830 00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So I got up halfway there and I 831 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 2: went slept it in the other. 832 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: Room, Titus, somebody's gonna want to cuddle with your hot. 833 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 2: Body, then the room is going to be ice cold. 834 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: What temperature do you used to be? 835 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 2: Sixty one and in the winter I cracked the windows. 836 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, because I just graduated like three years 837 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: ago to sixty nine. That's too Oh my gosh, who's 838 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 1: gonna clip that. 839 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 2: I'm just I. 840 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:32,439 Speaker 1: Just realized, I know sixty nine degrees is oh lot, 841 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: oh lo. 842 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 2: I can't go back now. 843 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: They can't cut it because we fired the person. Oh no, 844 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: we hired them a get okay, so they're here. They 845 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: a sixty nine degrees is my preferred temperature? Actually, farenheitshaw. 846 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: I'm talking about temperature in the bedroom. And I just graduated, 847 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 1: and I have a hard time if it's if it's 848 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 1: hotter than that. But I used to be a person 849 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 1: who was like, I need the room to be warm. 850 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: Why would I ever have the air on in the winter? 851 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: That was me. Why would I have the air on 852 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: in the winter? Why would I have the air on 853 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night blowing on me, Like, oh. 854 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 2: Really, way from me? 855 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: Wow, So you like the winter. You excited for winter coming, 856 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm excited. I get scared of winter. 857 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 2: Because I don't like how it gets dark. 858 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 1: So that's the thing. And I'm a plant and I 859 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: genuinely need like light, and so even my apartment in 860 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 1: New York, Like, I think one of the two criteria 861 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: I had was I need natural light. Like it's there's 862 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 1: an abundance of natural light and it is not gonna 863 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 1: in any way be obstructed based on where my apartment faces, 864 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 1: and I just like I need I can't. I get 865 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: scared winter. I'm like, oh lord, my, I feel very 866 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: pist season winter though, where I'm like, I'm gonna be 867 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be sad because it's dark earlier. And as 868 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: much as I am an introvert, I'm like, love to 869 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: be an introvert in the summertime. But I love watching 870 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: people bounce around, you get it. I'm like, but I'm 871 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: loving the energy. I'm loving watching out my window and like. 872 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 2: A well, you love being alone with everybody? 873 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the one of the most comfortable times I've 874 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: felt was being at a friend's apartment in La We 875 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: had like had a rehearsal for sketch and we went 876 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: to his apartment and we were just there was no agenda. 877 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: It wasn't like we're going to the apartment because we're 878 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: gonna gout, We're gonna wing too your apartment, we're planning 879 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: to order this. We just were in his apartment right 880 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: at this real moment of clarity for myself where I 881 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 1: was like, this is really nice. There's no agenda, and 882 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm on my laptop because I have something to do, 883 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: much like you and your emails on the date, there's 884 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: something that was requiring my attention on my laptop. And 885 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 1: I was like, this feels like family. Like I'm over 886 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: here on my laptop. We don't have an agenda. There 887 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 1: was no music playing. We were really just like at 888 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: his apartment and I was like, I'm on my laptop. 889 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: We've spent the day together. I feel easy, breezy. Everyone's 890 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 1: doing their thing. And then my friend at one point 891 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: was like what are you doing on the computer, And 892 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: it snapped me out of it and I was like, oh, 893 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: it's not as comforty. It's not as comfy as I thought. 894 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: But not the friend who owned the apartment, but it 895 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 1: was different and another friend in the group and I 896 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 1: was like, oh see, and I had told him. I 897 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 1: was like, you kind of we talked about it the 898 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 1: next day. I was like you and the the apartment, 899 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: me and the guy who goes, what are you doing? 900 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: Why are you on the laptop? I was like, you 901 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,839 Speaker 1: kind of snapped me out of this. This then space 902 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: where I was like, oh, this feels like family, Like 903 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 1: I don't have to be on and like, of course 904 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: I'm going to chime in the conversation here or there. 905 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the laptop away in a second, but 906 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:16,399 Speaker 1: like I. 907 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 2: Were cognizant of what was happening around. Yeah, but you 908 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 2: also felt safe to be doing. 909 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I feel this is so nice. 910 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: There's no expectation of me, and for me, part of 911 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 1: like being at home and part of why I like 912 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 1: being on my own a lot of the times is 913 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: because I'm like, there's no expectation of me. Like when 914 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm by myself, I'm like I can be whatever I 915 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: want to be and no one's now scrutinizing my every move. 916 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: I still hang out with those friends. I still love them. 917 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 1: There are people that it got very strange with and 918 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure you experienced that right that it got strange with. 919 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: Did you have any friends that like you would be 920 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: like this person loves me, but they don't like me. 921 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 922 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, my friend and I were talking about that. 923 00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had a few of those people. And for why, well, 924 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 2: I had to keep them around because the social circle. 925 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,240 Speaker 2: I was not going to not be in that circle 926 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 2: for a certain amount of time based on several different factors. 927 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 2: So to remove myself would only be able to be 928 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 2: to complicate mm hmm matters. And so sometimes I have 929 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 2: to be the the architect of peace, and to be 930 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 2: the architect of piece doesn't always mean that there is 931 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 2: the absence of war. And so I thought, well, let 932 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 2: me just I'll play along for now until I know 933 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 2: that I can permanently remove myself from this cycle. 934 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 1: And you have removed yourself permanently from the cycle, you 935 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: seem to have no problem getting out removing yourself. 936 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 2: No, no, anymore. I don't want to be anywhere more 937 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 2: than I don't want to be anywhere where I were. 938 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 2: Tightest can't be m hm. And if Titus can't be there, 939 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 2: I want to We can't do that I can't do 940 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 2: it anymore, even like yeah. 941 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 1: Even like hey, TuS, I thought we were about to Okay, 942 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: fair enough, I understand, you know, everything doesn't have to 943 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 1: be said, and sometimes things can just are understood. I 944 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 1: don't know what that was, but I feel like it 945 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:24,760 Speaker 1: was good. It was going to be good. Your dad, 946 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: you call him dad, biological father, sperm donor what? How 947 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: do you actually refer to him if you weren't here, Like, 948 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: how would you refer to him in life? 949 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 2: I try not to. How do I refer to him 950 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:36,720 Speaker 2: to his face? 951 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 1: That? And then also I just remove. 952 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 2: The pronoun or the noun whatever it's called, and I 953 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 2: just be like hey, and I get right to what 954 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 2: I want. Oh. 955 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: So there's no no calling hi, vice first name. It's 956 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 1: not calling dad. It's just but so you do talk 957 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 1: to him. 958 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 2: He will text me. I've asked him not, I've asked 959 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 2: him to leave me alone. Okay. About five years ago, 960 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 2: he I started having dreams about reconnecting and I had 961 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 2: not my current therapist, but my therapist before that said 962 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 2: to me, Titus. My mom had said to me, Titus, 963 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 2: maybe you should call him, talk to him, say what 964 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 2: you need to say and get it off your chest whatever. 965 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 2: I told my therapist what my mom had suggested, and 966 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 2: he said, Titus, you are not going to hear what 967 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 2: you want to hear. If you do it, just know 968 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,359 Speaker 2: that it has to be for you, like it has 969 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 2: to be one side at me. I wanted to say this, 970 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 2: not because you are in pursuit of anything. And he 971 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 2: was absolutely right. And I was devastated. And it took 972 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:48,879 Speaker 2: me a while to make peace with my therapists being 973 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 2: correct and my biological father having not having the capacity 974 00:48:55,560 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 2: to own his part of how my childhood was curated. 975 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 2: And so back in January I texted him after he, 976 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 2: you know, was like happy to hear and I was like, 977 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 2: I said, you're absolutely right, it's going to be And 978 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,800 Speaker 2: I wut down the litany of things that I needed 979 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 2: to say to him, and I said, you got to 980 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 2: know this is not an indictment. I'm not mad anymore. 981 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 2: I'm not any of those things anymore. I said, but 982 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 2: I don't have the fervor that you have to ignite 983 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 2: a relationship with you. I can't do that with you. 984 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 2: And I said, you made your decision a long time ago. 985 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 2: I said, if you need anything, anything, I will be there. Like, 986 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 2: no problem. I had the resources, that's not a problem. 987 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 2: But I cannot have a relationship with you. 988 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: And so what made the fervor that you might have 989 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 1: had dissipate because there sounds like there was a time 990 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 1: where you were maybe on the same page about trying. 991 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:09,919 Speaker 2: Well, I it dissipated it once I realized that he 992 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 2: was always interested to atone for he was aware his 993 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 2: guilt was the impetus, not his genuine love for me. 994 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,759 Speaker 2: And I'm not going to unlocked that prison for you. 995 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 2: That's not mine, that's yours and me especially once I 996 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:36,399 Speaker 2: understood what was underscoring this new move me entering into 997 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 2: a covenant whereby I would agree to participate in this 998 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,479 Speaker 2: non relationship relationship put me in prison, and I spent 999 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 2: forty plus years trying to get out of it, so 1000 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 2: I not can go back and see it. Yeah, get 1001 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 2: out of here? 1002 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah? How did he respond? I don't care, you 1003 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 1: don't care, Okay. 1004 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,840 Speaker 2: I blocked it. I understand, and then I later I 1005 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 2: unblocked him. 1006 00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 1: Why do I block? 1007 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 2: I do that sometimes because I said to him, if 1008 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 2: you need something, how would you get in touch with me? 1009 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:05,839 Speaker 1: That's true? You did say, that's fair. 1010 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 2: Fair, fair, But I deleted the conversation and then I 1011 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,919 Speaker 2: deleted it from doing twice ye And so it makes 1012 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,960 Speaker 2: me sad for him that he can't do it for himself, 1013 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 2: that he can't walk himself through his choices. I'm okay 1014 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 2: because I raised myself the part of me that needed 1015 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 2: my dad. I did that. I got me here. My 1016 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 2: mom was great, she did what she could. She's not 1017 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 2: without her shit. But you know I I I've done 1018 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 2: things where I've had to go back through some extreme 1019 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 2: discomfort where I could have at the time responded differently 1020 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 2: to a covenant that I had agreed to, and I 1021 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,320 Speaker 2: didn't hold up to my end of the bargain. I 1022 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 2: will never do that to anyone. It's awful. It is awful. 1023 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 2: And so if he wants to be free, he has 1024 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 2: to free himself. I had to free myself. 1025 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 1: That's fair. Do you want kids? 1026 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 2: Fuck? No, no, no, no, no no. There are too 1027 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 2: many parameters. There are two, there's the absence. There's too 1028 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 2: many parameters that are absent in the day to day 1029 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:34,239 Speaker 2: and globally and on the federal level, that are in 1030 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 2: place where if my kid walks out of the door, 1031 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 2: I'm not my assholes. Not mean fin to be tight 1032 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,479 Speaker 2: when I don't know where you are. That's too much. 1033 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:47,280 Speaker 2: And I see how he handled himself. Not granted, I 1034 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 2: would like to think that I won't do that, but 1035 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 2: I can only think as far as wanting to be 1036 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 2: in a relationship and having to get up out of bed. 1037 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 2: This thing. Then they say when a child is born, 1038 00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,880 Speaker 2: there's a natural you fall in love and information is 1039 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:06,439 Speaker 2: downloaded that perhaps you've never knew was there. A new 1040 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 2: portal is opened up in your body. And I've experienced 1041 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 2: that we're dogs. But I think my children is art. 1042 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:25,839 Speaker 2: And I think what I can leave behind that will 1043 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 2: go on after I leave here is what part of 1044 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,240 Speaker 2: my mind I've let be recorded whereby people can listen 1045 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 2: and revisit it should they want to. I don't deem 1046 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:44,880 Speaker 2: myself some extraordinary thinker that or an extremely artists in 1047 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 2: relation to but this is what I have, and this 1048 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 2: was the truth in my highverd many years. I will 1049 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,399 Speaker 2: have been here when it's time to leave, and that's 1050 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 2: the that is I can get on board with that. 1051 00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 2: I can be confident in that that I feel a 1052 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 2: paternal instinct about. And that is what rises up at 1053 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 2: me when I hear about legacy. I can't do that. 1054 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 2: I don't think it's safe for me to do that 1055 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 2: in the human form. 1056 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 1: That's fair. Yeah, I understand, and I appreciate that. And 1057 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 1: now it's time for a segment called that's nice, But 1058 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:25,440 Speaker 1: what about me? It is stupid, fucking dumb. Okay, Titus, 1059 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 1: you get it. You're busy with acting, entertainment, projects on projects. 1060 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:36,759 Speaker 1: How do I carve out time for myself? What is 1061 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 1: your methodology? Do you have two phones? Do you schedule 1062 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 1: a vacation every year? Well in advance? Like, what do 1063 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:45,480 Speaker 1: you do so that you don't experience burnout? What should 1064 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 1: I do and experience burnout? What are your February or 1065 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 1: March pisces? Are you February? Okay? This is that's where 1066 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:57,760 Speaker 1: the split begins. 1067 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 2: You You're just gonna have to okay, the same way 1068 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 2: you are the face of your art, the same way 1069 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 2: that you are the face of your yeah, chosen family, 1070 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,680 Speaker 2: Like you have to act on behalf of of that. 1071 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,920 Speaker 2: You also have to act on behalf of your piece. 1072 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 2: And these three things, while the currency is different in 1073 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 2: these planes, one is money, one is a type of love, 1074 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 2: and then one is uh self care. They are all 1075 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 2: the pendulum swings in terms of how much weight they carry. 1076 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,839 Speaker 2: And you you have to even if it's a big 1077 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,279 Speaker 2: money grab or the family really needs you, if you 1078 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 2: ain't got anything, or if you're not taking care of 1079 00:55:55,160 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 2: this this one thing you have offered energy and these 1080 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,799 Speaker 2: other two things. That is murky and muddy and not 1081 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:10,719 Speaker 2: as transparent as as it would be were you to 1082 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,840 Speaker 2: take care of your your health. So you just have 1083 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:18,359 Speaker 2: to put out some hard nose and and know that 1084 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,319 Speaker 2: once I take care of this and I'm in the 1085 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:25,359 Speaker 2: right space, I will regenerate these other two things. It's 1086 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 2: just as how it is. 1087 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, So just fucking say no, Okay, say no no, yeah, 1088 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 1: And that's a complete That is a complete. Yeah, Okay, 1089 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,879 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. This podcast isn't just about you, 1090 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 1: and it's not just about me. We also help a listener. 1091 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 1: So we have a listener who needs advice. Kevin, you 1092 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,280 Speaker 1: can play that. It's real life. This is a real listener. 1093 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 4: Hey, I don't know if you're going to listen to this, 1094 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,280 Speaker 4: but I was wondering if you had advice for making 1095 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 4: friends in the city during college. Also, I love you 1096 00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,200 Speaker 4: guys so much. Thank you. 1097 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:00,239 Speaker 1: Bye. 1098 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:02,120 Speaker 2: Making friends. 1099 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:03,920 Speaker 1: Since she goes to college in New York, it sounds 1100 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,400 Speaker 1: like it, Yes, what would you tell her? 1101 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,400 Speaker 2: You got time to go out out of your classes 1102 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 2: and have a social circle. That are people who don't 1103 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,000 Speaker 2: who are not in your what you're trying to do, 1104 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 2: she's not on the line. I'm trying to don't. I 1105 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,000 Speaker 2: don't know. Okay, what do you think she's trying to do? 1106 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:29,080 Speaker 1: She's trying to make friends, she said, do you know 1107 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 1: the answer was in the prompt? Yeah, trying to make friends. 1108 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, well, you can't. How old are 1109 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 2: you would college? 1110 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 1: Eighteen to twenty two? Eighteen to twenty presumably not twenty two, 1111 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,000 Speaker 1: given it's sounding like college is relatively new to this listener. 1112 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 2: I think I think social. I think you're you're going 1113 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 2: to do it anyways. You're going to be social. That's 1114 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 2: that's the thing. Like, you know, when we're in college, 1115 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 2: you want so desperately to not be in school. You know, 1116 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 2: you want to go out and party and and play 1117 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,439 Speaker 2: and do all the things. So I mean, wear tight 1118 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 2: clothes and like show your boobies and like. 1119 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,480 Speaker 1: This is why Titus can't be a dad. You know 1120 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: what we've decided today. 1121 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. What do you think? 1122 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,520 Speaker 1: You said, I'm a love it to you because I 1123 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 1: lead this young soul of stress. 1124 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:20,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1125 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 1: I mean, make friends. What are your interests, Lean into 1126 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 1: those interests, meet like minded people that way, and that's 1127 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,200 Speaker 1: a good barometer for whether you would be friends. Naturally. 1128 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 1: You like that, You're like, yeah, you take it between 1129 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 1: the two of us. Child, Okay, Titus, I really appreciate 1130 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 1: you sharing yourself with me today. I really really really 1131 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 1: appreciate it. I know you would not be here if 1132 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 1: you didn't want to, So I'm honored you're here, and 1133 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate your vulnerability, and I hope you felt me 1134 00:58:54,920 --> 00:59:04,280 Speaker 1: hold that. I adore you. Thank you, thank you. And 1135 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 1: that was my episode with Titus Burgess. I think we delivered. 1136 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,200 Speaker 1: We delivered a product, and you might have opinions about 1137 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,040 Speaker 1: that product, but keep them to yourself, No, don't. Actually, 1138 00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,920 Speaker 1: if you liked the podcast, I hope you subscribed, and 1139 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,160 Speaker 1: I hope you've left a nice review. That would be nice. 1140 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 1: Why not? No one told me to ask you that, 1141 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,800 Speaker 1: but I just thought that would be really nice. That'd 1142 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 1: be very sweet, and I would appreciate it anyway, Titus, 1143 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 1: how fun is he. We got a lot of tea, 1144 00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 1: a lot of juice, and honestly wors chalk full of beverages. 1145 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 1: And I have to be that was like a dad joke. 1146 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 1: That was a dad joke. Oh boy, I have to 1147 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:46,480 Speaker 1: go back to comedy school. If you want advice from 1148 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,240 Speaker 1: me and Titus in the future, not me and Titus, 1149 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 1: me and my guest Titus. Titus may be back. I 1150 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:53,920 Speaker 1: don't know if he'll be back. I don't know if 1151 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 1: he'll want to come back. I don't I haven't repeated 1152 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,360 Speaker 1: any guests yet. I'm everyone's again, just like Dad of 1153 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 1: the day for But if you want advice from me 1154 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,400 Speaker 1: and my next guest or another guest, call me. Leave 1155 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 1: a voice message. The numbers five oh two eight four 1156 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 1: nine three two three seven five oh two eight four 1157 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 1: nine three two three seven five o two eight four 1158 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 1: nine no five oh two. Thanks Dad's anyway, I just 1159 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,440 Speaker 1: wanted to see if you were paying attention. Call leave 1160 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 1: a voice message. I love you so much. I don't 1161 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 1: think you get how much I love you, and it's 1162 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 1: really fucking me up right now. I'll see you guys 1163 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 1: next time. Please come back. I love you, no, I 1164 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 1: seriously love you, and you don't have to love me too. 1165 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 1: You don't have to say it back. There's no pressure 1166 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 1: to say it back, But I love you. 1167 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:42,360 Speaker 2: Bye. 1168 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,160 Speaker 1: Thanks Dad. Is a production of Will Ferrell's Big Money 1169 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,880 Speaker 1: Players and iHeart podcasts. I'm your host Ago wodem Our 1170 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,439 Speaker 1: producer is Kevin Bartelt, and our executive producer is Matt 1171 01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 1: Appadaka