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Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. Jaguars Did Jack

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Did you go? Jaguars Drive Time, Ryan Sex steps

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Speaker 1: that John O. J Ashley Jaguars Drive Time starts right now.

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Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome Jaguars Drive Time Wednesday morning, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Duval Motor Company. It's a very big

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Speaker 1: day to day. The Jaguars are back on the practice

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Speaker 1: bigger day. Oh, it's a massive day because it's the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars gingerbread housemaking contests today and the reigning Champ's champ.

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Speaker 1: It's Brooks Brothers is right here, Hello, John, big day,

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Speaker 1: my favorite day. It's the most wonderful day. Can you

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Speaker 1: do that in Andy Williams key? I can do it

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Speaker 1: in any key? You know, Hey, you know it's I

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Speaker 1: will built that attend. Let's just point this out when

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Speaker 1: you're four and nine, when when you've lost five games

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Speaker 1: in a row by how many points? Have they lost

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Speaker 1: five games in a row by at least an average

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Speaker 1: an average of twenty one. It's it's an average of

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Speaker 1: thirty one to ten that they've been beaten. Um, guys

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Speaker 1: everything is so good. You have to create your own energy.

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Speaker 1: You have to manufacture your own energy. And I feel

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Speaker 1: with sort of a gingerbread mentality and brought us all

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Speaker 1: up to his level. So let's do a good show today, guys,

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Speaker 1: let's do it. Sign me up. Well, big things we're

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Speaker 1: getting in our feelings today, getting in our fields, as

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Speaker 1: the kids say. Big Thing one is confidence? Does this

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Speaker 1: team still have confidence? Do they still believe in themselves?

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Speaker 1: What can they be confident as a head to the

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Speaker 1: West Coast. Great question. I don't have the answer. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I know what I'm confident in. Big Thing to anger.

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Speaker 1: How does Doug myr own channel the anger of the

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Speaker 1: players and drown out the anger of the fan base

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Speaker 1: to create a positive outcome on Sunday? Sounds like a

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Speaker 1: tough task. Sounds easier said than done. Big Thing three Pride.

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Speaker 1: This is a big one. What does pride even have

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Speaker 1: play for? Pride? Is that where we are? Yes? I indeed?

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Speaker 1: Do you think is about pride? Right now, you know.

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Speaker 1: And first of all, great energy. I mean you just

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Speaker 1: nailed big things exactly the way that I envisioned them

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Speaker 1: when we wrote them. Thank you so much, so much.

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Speaker 1: This is not right now. Very proud franchise. No. Two

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Speaker 1: years ago they felt as if they had rekindled some

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Speaker 1: of that pride. But over the last games they've won

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Speaker 1: six and lost nineteen. Forget the last five the way

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Speaker 1: you can't really forget the last five. There is we

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Speaker 1: said a low ebb right now, and historically every franchise

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Speaker 1: has this point. It's just word the misfortunate ones that

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Speaker 1: were living through this right now. Uh and you know

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Speaker 1: we're talking and that's all we have to do today.

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Speaker 1: But those guys have got to figure out a way

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Speaker 1: to find some confidence, to channel the anger and play

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Speaker 1: with some right on Sunday. You know, Well there's no confidence.

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Speaker 1: Um yeah, And that's a great point. There is no confidence.

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Speaker 1: Well there can't be. I mean you've lost five in

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Speaker 1: or fifty seven. There can't be confidence. So fine, I

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Speaker 1: mean it's ten points. Uh, so forget confidence. But I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying that to be negative and saying to be realistic. UM,

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Speaker 1: I do think that they'll play for personal pride. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you can get confidence if you get lead. This is

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Speaker 1: come back. So that's always your chance. The the issue

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Speaker 1: and with all you know, injuries didn't cause this season

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Speaker 1: I'm very angry. Well, there are already a lot of

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Speaker 1: people that are very angry. My wife's angry. But that's

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Speaker 1: that's for another day. Again, it's an emotional you talked about.

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Speaker 1: Would you call it? Get your feels on? Yeah, get

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Speaker 1: think maybe it's not. I might have made that up.

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Speaker 1: So what feels should they have on this week? Anger?

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Speaker 1: I have a big thing. I think go to US

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Speaker 1: coast with pride. Play with pride. We'll talk about it

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Speaker 1: the next three weeks. It's your only option. They should feel,

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Speaker 1: can appeal to these guys and hey, look your professionals, Um,

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Speaker 1: you've lost five in a row. By whatever the number is,

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Speaker 1: people are laughing at you, So make that stop. Well

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Speaker 1: and look, when you're old enough, you've been in a

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Speaker 1: situation where things seem hopeless. I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: But the only thing that changed for lauder Dale they're different.

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Speaker 1: But people who are watching this have probably been at

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Speaker 1: only thing that changes it is action. That's it. You

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Speaker 1: do what he does right, the whole Minshue magic thing

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Speaker 1: takes three miles for a cruise ship to turn around, right, Well,

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Speaker 1: playing a close game and ending this nonsense of five

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Speaker 1: So turn it around now or next week we'll show

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Speaker 1: you anchor Well, here's hope the Raiders have lost three

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Speaker 1: the Raiders this Sunday. Well, there's nothing like going west

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Speaker 1: three thousand miles with five losses behind you. Absolutely, this

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Speaker 1: kidding aside, When the day is over, we will have

426
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: new respect for stone cold Reaver because what the man

427
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: can do with the gingerbread house is, uh, what's special?

428
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 1: So I was on that bay. I think he's doing

429
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: a gingerbread ring. He's doing a gingerbread shooting gallery. They're

430
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: very rare, very rare very rare very special, hence why

431
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: he is always the winner. All right, Tommy, please get

432
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: us out of gingerbread talk. Hey zone. Last year, the

433
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: old line was the problem due to injuries. This year

434
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: they've been mostly healthy and still have struggled either way.

435
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: The starting quarterback has suffered. For when will they be

436
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: held accountable? Well, you look for ways to make the

437
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: ozone entertaining, which you know I've been doing for eight years,

438
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: so have then found it? Um Uh? I never know

439
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 1: what accountable means, Brian. In the NFL, you're accountably because

440
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 1: the NFL, you're accountable if you're bad because you're out

441
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 1: of the league. Do you know do they want them

442
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: held up for public ridicule? Do they want them Here's

443
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: the thing, accountability. Everybody wants people pulled out of the

444
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: line up in the NFL. Well, they start the player

445
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: they think give them the best chance to win. So

446
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: they're playing poorly and there's nobody behind them to play better. Uh.

447
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 1: Accountability during the season, it really doesn't exist. If you're

448
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: the best player, it's hard to pull you out. Now.

449
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 1: Accountability will happen after the season, when they figure out

450
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: where they want to go next. I think accountability, if

451
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: there is a change, will be more than the past

452
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: because nobody will be connected with these guys. But you know,

453
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: I understand the question. It's just difficult for fans to

454
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: get the accountability that they want because they want people fire,

455
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: they want people out, they want people cut. Well, I say,

456
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: you cut Andrew Norwell, well, by definition, you're replacing with

457
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: somebody that you don't believe is as good. So it's

458
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to do, even though I understand how

459
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 1: fans want it. So pull back the curtain for a minute, uh,

460
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: and let folks see the raw inside of this building. Yesterday,

461
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: I was sitting outside trying to get a little fresh air. Um,

462
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: and I'm talking to a coach that I know well,

463
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: and it's an awkward conversation because you can't talk. You're

464
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: not gonna talk about the Raiders game because you're just

465
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: not uh, you're not talking about Christmas, although we talked

466
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: a little bit about it, You're not gonna talk about

467
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: January and I gonna talk about, Hey, what do you

468
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: do in the next spring. They know where they're gonna be.

469
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: They are having to live with that right now, right

470
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: these coaches, even though no one's I shouldn't say that.

471
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: I don't know that for a fact. Um, But I

472
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: doubt anyone's come down the hall and said, hey, you know,

473
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: just planning being fired when this whole thing is over.

474
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: In their minds, their coaches, they're they're their modern day

475
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: nomads right here. Two years here, three years here, one

476
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: year and then move on. They get it. Um, The

477
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: accountability that Tommy seeks is coming, and the accountability is

478
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: almost always the coaches. Now, I wonder if you think

479
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: that someone should say, hey, you gotta be here at

480
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: six am, and you gotta stay here till six pm.

481
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: You gotta work twelve hours a day. They work longer

482
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: than that. Some people think this is a nine to five.

483
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: No way, this is a Monday through Sunday before the

484
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: sun is up, after the sun is down. Miss soccer

485
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: games and miss dinner with your family. Um, you want blood,

486
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: but what you're you're getting is somebody else is their

487
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: whole family. Lie. If it's disrupted by all of this,

488
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: you're gonna get your accountability. They're gonna change things up.

489
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: But the reality of it is is that the roster

490
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: has to change. If you put a better roster in here.

491
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: This coaching staff does a better job, right. They can

492
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: only do so much right exactly. And you're thinking about

493
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: Todd wash and John d. Philippo. I mean, you're thinking

494
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: about the big names, the guys that draw all the attention.

495
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: You're not thinking about John Donovan and his three kids, right,

496
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: and what they have to do. I know because he's

497
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: one of my neighbors. So I'm living it through them.

498
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: When one of my kids says, well, is John Patrick

499
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: gonna be on our football team next year? You go,

500
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, right, So hold off

501
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: on the accountability just a little bit. It's coming. If

502
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: you have to have it wrapped in a bow underneath

503
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: your Christmas tree, then put off a picture of the

504
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: Jaguars coaching staff and open it up and be thrilled

505
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: that they're probably going to be gone, but accountability comes. Unfortunately,

506
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: it doesn't always come to the players who deserve to

507
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: be held accountable because their salary and their dead cap

508
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: and all of that makes it strong. All right, let's

509
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: go to Chris from Jacksonville. This is the second year

510
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: in Rose that the jackson performed significantly worse in the

511
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: second half the season than they did in the first half.

512
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on why this is, well, um, a couple

513
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: or three. Probably one is that they're very different seasons.

514
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: Last year, I honestly thought it was more because of injury,

515
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: and then after injury there was the again reaffirmation that

516
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: the quarterback play wasn't enough to hold up an injury team. Uh.

517
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: This year it's been more, Um, you know, the run

518
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: defense went south and week eight I continue to say

519
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: it was a four and four team that looked like

520
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: an average seven and nine to nine and seven normal

521
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: bad team or uh normal bad to good break here

522
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: their type team, and then Marcel Darius got hurt and

523
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: it just sort of started sliding. Now, one reason a

524
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: team slides in the second half, uh, that you could

525
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: correlate both is depth. As as players have gotten hurt,

526
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: this team has fallen off dramatically each season. Now, I

527
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: don't know that anybody's depth last year could have withstood

528
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: last year. But this year, when you dropped from Marcel

529
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden everything was gone inside, I

530
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: think it did show lack of death. Doug. Doug Maron

531
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: was concerned about it before the season. I discounted a

532
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: little bit as coach speak. But it it has been,

533
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: it has been. Then this is not a d proster, no,

534
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: And I think that's the logical answer. I think another possibility,

535
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: and you and I discussed this a lot during O

536
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: T A S, and that is that this was not

537
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: a mentally tough team that had handled adversity. When things

538
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: went out, it went out, and some of the leaders

539
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: on that team, the Jalen Ramsey's and Telvin Smith's who

540
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: were no longer here, they weren't able to pull out

541
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: of it last year and this year. It's primary the talent,

542
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: but there's still a leadership void. They never replaced Pause,

543
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: they never replaced Mercedes. They're not right you you have Kleis,

544
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: and it's hard for just one guy at Leonard's trying.

545
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: There are guys who are trying um and I think

546
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: Leonard has led. I mean from he stood in that

547
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: locker room last Sunday after that game. It was late

548
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: in the evening. It was an embarrassing loss. He answered

549
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: every question. Leonard for net doesn't do that. But there's

550
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: not at each position group. They got tight End and

551
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: this is probably bad example because it's it's the outlier.

552
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: But tight End there's barely even a starter, much less

553
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: a guy who people can look to and say what

554
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: does he do when things go bad? And more than that,

555
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: I use this analogy. When you're playing baseball or when

556
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: you're playing sports as a kid, there's always that one

557
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: or two guys in the team. If it's a good team.

558
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: Then when they're walking off the bus, we had a

559
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: chance to win because Gary's here, or we got a

560
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: chance to win because John is here, Ted's here. They

561
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 1: never said head about me, Well they please get back

562
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: on the base on the bus. Yeah, it was a thing.

563
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: But um so I think there's not that guy at

564
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: each position. There's not enough of those guys. DJ Charcot

565
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: wide receiver, you know. But he's a second year guy,

566
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: and as good as he is, is he going to

567
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: make that huge play for you every game? Yet I

568
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: think maybe in his third or fourth year, he will

569
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: second year emerging guy isn't often that guy. So that

570
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 1: guy a little off track. But those kind of guys

571
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: pull you out of season, out of late season slides

572
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: because they make the huge play. There's not that guy.

573
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: And just to finish my thought, because I have a

574
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: good example, it's the Steelers right now. Look, primarily they're

575
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: getting it done because their defense is incredibly talented and

576
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: there get their finding ways on offense to make it happen.

577
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: But the Steelers do what the Steelers do. The Steelers

578
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: have a great deal of pride. The Steelers have mostly

579
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: been a winning franchise right since nineteen two, okay almost

580
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: fifty years because the people um in the locker room,

581
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: the people in the coaching suite, the people in the

582
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: front office do the same thing every way. There is

583
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: a measure of pride to do things the Steeler way.

584
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: They also know what they are, right, they know what

585
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: they are and the Steeler way is something just like

586
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: the Patriot way, you know, over the last twenty years

587
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: has become something. Uh, this franchise needs to create a

588
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: Jaguar way, a Jacksonville way, no matter who is sitting

589
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: in control over there or who's in the locker room.

590
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: It has to be established that this is the way

591
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: that the Jaguars do do business on the field, off

592
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: the field, in the community. Um, it's really, really, really

593
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: important that they get that. And one of the things

594
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: that I want to see in in the locker room

595
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: in the future is we're mentally tough. We fight through adversity.

596
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: We may not win because we don't have enough talented players,

597
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: but we don't ever get beat four, five to ten

598
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: in front of our home crowd ever, no excuses. And

599
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: that is drilled not just through the starters, but through

600
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,479
Speaker 1: the backups to the guys that come in. Hey, I'm

601
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: going to play for the Steelers. Hey, when you go

602
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: play for Pittsburgh, here's how it is when you come

603
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: into Jacksonville. This is what they expect. Don't even sign

604
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: the contract unless you can come through on that. It's

605
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: a big, big two thought right now. But the people

606
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: who are responsible for this franchise need to make those

607
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: sorts of decisions and get started on that. All right,

608
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: you ready for this town name? Here we go. We

609
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: worked on this. By the way, Bill from Wooster try again,

610
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: It's Wooster, Worcester Worcester, Worcester, Massachusetts, home of Public Cross.

611
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: In your opinion, what is the best draft strategy for

612
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: the Jags? I see a lot of holes just asking

613
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: for a friend though not him, a lineman, lineman, linement

614
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: and h and that's I don't know they're be able

615
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: to stick to that because there's out of needs. But

616
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: that's sort of got to be the core. I think

617
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: every round you've got to look at it and say,

618
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: is there a reason for us not to take alignment

619
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: in this right? You know? Is there a quarterback so

620
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: good that we can't not take? You know? But I

621
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: think you've got to go into each round thinking how

622
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: do we get stouter up front? Well, I've been saying that, um,

623
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: but I'll stick to my philosophy that is best player available.

624
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 1: So if you're sitting at say seven, and the best

625
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: player is a cornerback, well you need a cornerback. And

626
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: if the guy is really really good, will you take him.

627
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: If the best player available as a wide receiver, well

628
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 1: maybe you trade back and get into a position where

629
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: you gained some capital and you can take the best

630
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: player available. But you, as we found out with Josh

631
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: Allen this year, you never lose by taking the best

632
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: player on the board. Having said that, watched the Colts

633
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: turn it around because of their choices on their offensive line.

634
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: Give me the best offensive lineman with one of the

635
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: picks and the best defensive lineman with the other picks,

636
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: and I will feel good about my But they took

637
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Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson as the best player available at the time,

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Speaker 1: there were eyebrows rays when you took a guard that

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Speaker 1: never go wrong with great players, never ever go wrong

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Speaker 1: with great players. And I I loved the pick then

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Speaker 1: he's obviously, he's he's played out, the best offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: though always the underpinning of the way that you go

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Speaker 1: about building to your roster. Got a lot of options

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Speaker 1: this year, for sure. For sure. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: field again today to get ready to go to Oakland

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Speaker 1: on Friday. And it is time for top seats. Tweets

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Speaker 1: to tweets, to tweets, top tweets. All right, Brian, you'll

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Speaker 1: like this first one. I love Twitter Field Yates tweets

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Speaker 1: out six teams that have more than two hundred million

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Speaker 1: dollars committed for their cap. You see the Jaguars number

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Speaker 1: one at two thousand and eight or two and eight

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Speaker 1: million dollars. It's not the number one you want to

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Speaker 1: So you want the good news of the bad news. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So here's the good news. The Jaguars can produce that

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Speaker 1: number dramatically. Dramatically, Uh, Marcel Darius a j boy A

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Speaker 1: Calais camp bowlt Uh, Marquis leave. I mean you can

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Speaker 1: get that number too, I don't know, two hundred or

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Speaker 1: a hundred forty million. And and of course the cap

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Speaker 1: is gonna go up. They've got money they're carrying over.

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Speaker 1: They should start next year about eighteen million under the

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Speaker 1: cap before they start releasing players. Uh. And by the

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Speaker 1: time they release those players, they can get to seventy

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Speaker 1: seventy five. And then if the cap goes up, maybe

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Speaker 1: even more so. Finding room is no problem for this team. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Johnny Zick and Dave Caldwell's staff over there have done

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Speaker 1: a good job at creating opportunities to clean up the cap.

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Speaker 1: Here's the bad news. You don't have a quarterback on

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Speaker 1: there that you're going forward with saying it doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: that he's our twenty million dollar a year guy. That's

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Speaker 1: our guy. Right. Um, you look at the and they've

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Speaker 1: got Jimmy Garoppolo at twenty eight million, and after last

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Speaker 1: year people are saying, oh my god, they gave that

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Speaker 1: guy twenty eight million. Well now you're looking at him

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Speaker 1: going twenty millions to bargain. You got him. Um, you're

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Speaker 1: going to release players who have been part of your

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Speaker 1: core and not have a lot behind it. Right. You

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Speaker 1: don't have a replacement for Clays Campbell, You don't have

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Speaker 1: a replacement from Marcel Darius, You don't have a replacement

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Speaker 1: for a j Boy. You you have a replacement for

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Speaker 1: Marquise League. That's the problem here is that the roster

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Speaker 1: is so thin. Yes, you can get under the cap easily,

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Speaker 1: and field Gates didn't have time and what is it

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Speaker 1: characters or whatever it is to be able to lay

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Speaker 1: out each team's individual cap that they're not so far

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Speaker 1: over the cap they can't get well under it, but

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Speaker 1: they can't get well under it without letting go players

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Speaker 1: that they've counted on. So yeah, I think that's the difference.

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Speaker 1: I got that emails is this is this two thousand

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Speaker 1: all over again. It's not because they haven't kicked everything

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Speaker 1: out at nauseam. They can get back under. Will there

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Speaker 1: be a couple of lean years, probably because you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be You're gonna be trying to rebuild this thing. But

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Speaker 1: it's not those lean years anymore. Aren't unusual. This is

734
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Speaker 1: usually the psych in the NFL. You hit a point

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Speaker 1: where you where you slide and you get out of it.

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Speaker 1: It's just this slide has been so bad. I think

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Speaker 1: people think it's worse than it is. The No one's

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Speaker 1: gonna going to go, oh, he's right here, but I

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Speaker 1: am if Gardner Minshew right turns out to be someone

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Speaker 1: that a new coach can develop, right, thanks, I got that,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know that he is. Or and here's

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Speaker 1: where people are gonna go, are you crazy? Or if

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Speaker 1: someone rehabilitates Nick fools if this was Look, they didn't

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Speaker 1: sign Nick Foles and say what, we hope he's good.

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Speaker 1: He had proven over two years that he was a

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Speaker 1: good player. Did they overpay? For sure? But we overpay

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Speaker 1: in this liek. That's what you do in free agency.

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Speaker 1: If someone can say, now, look, I can build around it.

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Speaker 1: Was Mr Khan and he's on your cap for a

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Speaker 1: couple more years. Well, then you accelerate the rebuilding, you know.

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Speaker 1: I was reading the article that many people probably have

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Speaker 1: with Mike McCarthy, uh Dan Pelliston a right that um

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Speaker 1: on NFL dot com and one of the comments that

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Speaker 1: he made was wherever I go and he's going to

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Speaker 1: go to a place where they fire a coach because

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Speaker 1: the team isn't very good. I don't believe in a

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Speaker 1: total tier down rebuild. I'm going to take what's there

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Speaker 1: and build around it. Well, so you are allowed to say,

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00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: how do we make Nick Foles or Gardner Minshew work?

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Speaker 1: How do we create an offense around them that works?

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Speaker 1: Fresh set of eyes, Maybe they can get that done.

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Speaker 1: The cap situation is not dire in terms of the money.

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Speaker 1: It's dire in terms of the talent. When you have

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Speaker 1: a heavy cap, generally that you hope that you have

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Speaker 1: a lot of talent and you have to find ways

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Speaker 1: to pay it so you're not one quick thing on

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Speaker 1: the cap um. If they want, they'll create enough money

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Speaker 1: to find a way to pay Unique and Gockway because

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Speaker 1: they're not paying Jalen Ramsey and and Gockway is a

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Speaker 1: guy that you'd like to keep, although I don't know

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Speaker 1: that they're going to be able to reach an agreement

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Speaker 1: on a number because his number is astronomical and their

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Speaker 1: number is somewhat south of astronomical. Yes, have you just ridiculous?

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Speaker 1: Have a feeling that will be a off season conversation.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Michael D. Rock with ESPN, who recaps

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Speaker 1: the two thousand nineteen Jags for agency class. When it's

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Speaker 1: all laid out like this, it's pretty eye opening because

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Speaker 1: four of the seven of the free agent class are

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Speaker 1: currently on I R. You can make the argument A. J.

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Speaker 1: Cann and Chris Connolly might be the only positives on

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Speaker 1: that list. Yeah, it is, and it's uh, it's really

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Speaker 1: Fold and everybody else. It was a Foals free agency class. Uh,

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Speaker 1: O'Shaughnessy and Ken. Yes they are free agents, they re signed. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you've got six players who realistically they did not sign

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Speaker 1: those six players with the idea that it was going

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00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: to be buried church a J. Boyer impact. This was

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Speaker 1: a Nick Foles second tier class. Nick nick Foles prime

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00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: and then second tier class. But the way Folds has played,

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Speaker 1: the way that's worked out, it can't be anything but disappointing.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, I don't think it's the worst free agent

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Speaker 1: class in history, I mean his team's history, because I

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Speaker 1: don't think that they thought the other six we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be major impact. They were whole fillers. A couple of

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Speaker 1: quick thoughts stone Cold put that back up. The first

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Speaker 1: is it really puts into your please, I'm sorry, um,

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Speaker 1: although I don't think I've ever heard Reaber ever say please?

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Speaker 1: Um do it? So he really is a nice kid, guys, Um,

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Speaker 1: we paid him to be a monster, So you're you

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Speaker 1: said it right. It was fulls. There were no expectations

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Speaker 1: for everyone else. You know, they had hoped to get

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Speaker 1: more from Jake Ryan than they got, but it didn't

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Speaker 1: work out that way. But you didn't sign Nag good

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Speaker 1: thinking man, we gotta get a lot, or Chris Connolly

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Speaker 1: or Jeff Swain. This was on fools. So it puts

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Speaker 1: into perspective just how good seventeen was. So this is

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Speaker 1: what you get in free agency. You overspend and then

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Speaker 1: generally they under deliver for what you're spending the money on.

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Speaker 1: And so what it made seventeen such an outlier in

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Speaker 1: terms of the free agent class, an entire outlier. Folds

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Speaker 1: is the one that drives the class, and so yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a failure. But if you figure you're going

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00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: to build your team in free agency, you're figuring to

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Speaker 1: be where the Jaguars are got to do with through

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Speaker 1: the draft. And the good news here is the Dragon

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Speaker 1: Wars have four first dround picks in the next two years.

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Speaker 1: It's a good position to begin. Have to change it,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure. All right, Now, let's end it with

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Speaker 1: a positive, shall we? Ten ten XL tweets out this stat,

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Speaker 1: but Leonard Fournett has more catches this season than Julio Jones,

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. Alvin Kamara and lady On Bell. I

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Speaker 1: didn't know about the first two. That's pretty eye opening,

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Speaker 1: seeing how those two are superstar players. Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: It's it's fantastic for Leonard. I don't know that it

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Speaker 1: speaks that great to the offense because you're checking down

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Speaker 1: a lot, but it's again, it shows you Leonard Fournette

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Speaker 1: has been uh so key and so good for them,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you know, I think so much better

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Speaker 1: than expected. But it's not a great stat for the

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Speaker 1: offense because you don't want him catching the ball that much.

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Speaker 1: If you don't go back to New Orleans and do

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Speaker 1: the follow up with Leonard, I will because it is

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Speaker 1: it's the Obviously, the story of this season is whatever

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00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 1: happens at the end of you. But the other story

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Speaker 1: of the season is Leonard for nad and I intend

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Speaker 1: to say this to him when the season is over. Um,

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Speaker 1: where he was to where he is is a massive transformation,

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Speaker 1: and star players aren't always willing to subjugate their ego

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Speaker 1: and invest in that kind of work because they've always

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Speaker 1: been star players. For a boy from the seventh ward,

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Speaker 1: as he said, who didn't like cold weather when we

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Speaker 1: were getting ready to go to Pittsburgh for the playoff

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Speaker 1: game two years ago, to invest in a month in Wyoming.

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00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of time in Wyoming in February.

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Speaker 1: It is cold, it is windy, beyond anything he had

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Speaker 1: ever imagined. And then to come in with again, the

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Speaker 1: ego has not been there. He has been phenomenal, um,

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Speaker 1: and he should have had a better season, and yet

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Speaker 1: this offense is a real reason why now he's a

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Speaker 1: part of that. I get that argument. Um, but they

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Speaker 1: didn't run with him in London. They didn't run with

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Speaker 1: him enough. Uh, in Indianapolis games got away from them.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't stick with it, and and they did throw

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Speaker 1: it to him. John, there were always guys running to

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Speaker 1: him because he was the main threat. Well, you're playing

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Speaker 1: back and the teams are keeping everything in front of him,

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Speaker 1: and they know that throwing the ball Leonard for net

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Speaker 1: short is not going to beat them. We didn't know

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Speaker 1: if it was going to be worth it when when

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Speaker 1: everything ended last year. For him to be here this

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Speaker 1: year and now I fully expect him to be there

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Speaker 1: here the next two years. Not questioning it now, all right,

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Speaker 1: And that is our show. Jaguars Drive Time Wednesday morning,

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned, Press conferences this afternoon. Doug Marrone Gardner Mitshew

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour later on this afternoon