Speaker 1: Fractors Dolphins factorc touchdown. What a win for this Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphin team. Wow? What is up? Dolphins? And welcome to
Speaker 1: the Drive Time Podcast, part of the Miami Dolphins official
Speaker 1: podcast network, covering your team, your Miami Dolphins, each and
Speaker 1: every day. How's it going everybody? It is Friday. I
Speaker 1: am your host, Travis Wingfield, and I'm here to bring
Speaker 1: you your daily dose of Miami Dolphins football. And on
Speaker 1: today's show, it is in fact Friday, just ahead of
Speaker 1: the weekend of the Dolphins home game on Sunday against
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks at one o'clock Eastern Time out here
Speaker 1: at hard Rock Stadium. On today's podcast, will get final
Speaker 1: injury News, will get John Kigemmi's three takeaways on the
Speaker 1: other side of the Dolphins Seahawks preview from the podcast yesterday,
Speaker 1: and we'll also get to Anthony Fasano on flashback Friday
Speaker 1: Dolphins Seahawks match up the Sprinkler Game. Will cover that
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Speaker 1: And we've got a few good guests coming up for
Speaker 1: you here on this Flashback Friday edition of the Dolphins
Speaker 1: Podcast De Fins Flashback. I should say on this Friday,
Speaker 1: but first before we get to Seth levitt, O, J McDuffie,
Speaker 1: and our preacher guest today, Anthony Fasano, let's first talk
Speaker 1: about John Knjemmy's three Keys to Seattle, and it's kind
Speaker 1: of a crossover between what I had talked about on
Speaker 1: the preview pod yesterday. Number one, he talks about limiting
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's reps. How do you do that you're on
Speaker 1: the football. You try to keep them in third down
Speaker 1: and long situations. But John goes more in depth on that,
Speaker 1: talking about how the dolph Us have to find a
Speaker 1: way to contain Russell Wilson from making those off script plays,
Speaker 1: those scramble plays where he extends, gets out and just
Speaker 1: destroys you down the football field, whether it's running the
Speaker 1: football or throwing vertically. We talked about it in the preview,
Speaker 1: the way that the Cowboys rushed Russell Wilson with kind
Speaker 1: of that rush contained approach Alden Smith working through the
Speaker 1: tackle rather than trying to get up field around the
Speaker 1: tackle and disengage that way, you have to play with
Speaker 1: your eyes and the quarterback. Definitely a key to this
Speaker 1: game is trying to find a way to contain Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: because no one's on it so far through three games.
Speaker 1: Number two, Defend the explosive plays. Anyone who has watched
Speaker 1: the Seahawks on offense knows what their past offense is
Speaker 1: capable of producing. John writes the explosive over the type,
Speaker 1: over the top type of plays with DK Metcalf Tyler Lockett.
Speaker 1: He talks about the big, physical, strong, large catch radius
Speaker 1: of DK Metcalf and how difficult he can be to defend.
Speaker 1: And he also put in here the good news on
Speaker 1: the other side for the Dolphins receiving corps on our
Speaker 1: on our own side is that the Seahawks secondary has
Speaker 1: allowed twenty seven more catches and four hundred more yard
Speaker 1: It's than opposing to opposing offenses than any other defense
Speaker 1: so far in the NFL this season. So and I
Speaker 1: had mentioned this to John's the Buffalo game. Hey John,
Speaker 1: how about an explosive play right here? And he goes,
Speaker 1: I would love that, Travis, And so maybe he put
Speaker 1: a little bit of that sprinkle, that seasoning in there
Speaker 1: for the number two key to Seattle and number three
Speaker 1: is to spread the wealth. Talking about the Seahawks defense
Speaker 1: once again, it might be wise, John writes for the
Speaker 1: Dolphins that have a past first mentality. He writes, getting
Speaker 1: everybody involved early in the game and spreading the football around,
Speaker 1: much like last Thursday night in Jacksonville, might be a
Speaker 1: good strategy this week as well. And he goes on
Speaker 1: to talk about how this might provide more rushing lanes
Speaker 1: and more opportunities for guys like Miles Gaskin and Matt
Speaker 1: Brita as the game moves along. And just to kind
Speaker 1: of echo that last point, they're talking about how you
Speaker 1: can use the Miami and I know it's October now,
Speaker 1: but the early season, September October heat and humidity down
Speaker 1: here to maybe try to wear our team out. We've
Speaker 1: seen that in the past. We saw it with the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers a few years back. I recall the two
Speaker 1: thousand five game against the Broncos, for instance, where the
Speaker 1: Dolphins just had them gassed towards the end of the game.
Speaker 1: So if you can possess us the ball, run the football,
Speaker 1: you might be able to see a you know, Matt
Speaker 1: Breeder with that long speed break off a big run
Speaker 1: against a tired defense once you've worn them down. So
Speaker 1: spreading the wealth is John's third key to the game.
Speaker 1: You guys can find that article up on Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: dot com, as well as the written element to the
Speaker 1: fence flashback the game preview. We have tons of content
Speaker 1: on Miami Dolphins dot com for you, as well as
Speaker 1: a new addition of the Fish Tank podcast with Seth
Speaker 1: Juice and Todd Wade. We're gonna talk to them at
Speaker 1: the end of this interview here coming up with Anthony Fasano.
Speaker 1: But first before we get to that, the injury report
Speaker 1: here for this Friday for your Miami Dolphins. We have
Speaker 1: four players listed with game status is on this injury report.
Speaker 1: Both Solomon Kinley and to a Tongue of Valoa listed
Speaker 1: as questionable, with safety Cavon Fraser and cornerback Byron Jones
Speaker 1: listed as doubtful for the game on Sunday for visiting Seattle.
Speaker 1: Three players listed as out on their Friday injury report here.
Speaker 1: Safety Jamal Adams and cornerback Quentin Dunbar both will miss
Speaker 1: the game, as will Seahawks first round draft pick linebacker
Speaker 1: Jordan Brooks out of excess tech. And then there's a
Speaker 1: few players on the questionable distinction. Running Back Chris Carson,
Speaker 1: quarterbacks Shaquille Griffin, running back Carlos Hide, guard Damian Lewis,
Speaker 1: cornerback Niko Thorpe, and safety Lano Hill are all questionable
Speaker 1: for the game Sunday in Miami. And with that, let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and get forward here into the Fins flashback
Speaker 1: from twelve Dolphins and Seahawks with Anthony fasano enjoining the
Speaker 1: Drivetime podcast now. Is a two time former Dolphin. He
Speaker 1: was here for five years in his first stint from
Speaker 1: twent from two thousand eight to two thousand twelve, and
Speaker 1: he came back again in twenty seventeen for the last
Speaker 1: season of his NFL career. He caught one hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty nine passes for more than two hundred yards and
Speaker 1: twenty four touchdowns as a member of the Dolphins. He
Speaker 1: is Anthony Fossano, Anthony, how you doing man? Great, Travis,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Yeah, we're happy to have you on.
Speaker 1: And I always ask our flashback guests here on the podcast,
Speaker 1: what's life like for Anthony Fossano today? You know, I
Speaker 1: couldn't be happier. Um, you know, I was just starting
Speaker 1: a family as as I was leaving football, and that
Speaker 1: has grown. I have three children now. I still live
Speaker 1: in Fort Lauderdale, so I love South Florida and still
Speaker 1: follow the Dolphins and really consider myself a Dolphin and uh,
Speaker 1: you know I do. I do some real estate stuff.
Speaker 1: But I also um found my way into helping current
Speaker 1: and recently retired athletes in the behavior health needs, transitioning
Speaker 1: out of football and any kind of problems or experience
Speaker 1: with a with a facility I'm involved with in in
Speaker 1: Colorado called All Points North Lodge. That's really cool. You
Speaker 1: can he tell us any more about that because that
Speaker 1: sounds really noble. Yeah. Well, I had a family member,
Speaker 1: like many of us, go through the addiction process and
Speaker 1: the rehab process, and it was really my first taste
Speaker 1: of it. You know, of a friend, a close friend
Speaker 1: or loved the one going through it. Um, just picked
Speaker 1: his brain, got to know him, I got to know
Speaker 1: the situation, and he made it his purpose in life
Speaker 1: to to work in the field afterwards. So I got
Speaker 1: behind him. He built a team. We started a facility
Speaker 1: down here in South Florida about six years ago, and
Speaker 1: just over a year ago we merged with a bigger
Speaker 1: facility that was up and coming in Colorado and took
Speaker 1: our clinical staff out there. So UM, I was finally
Speaker 1: able to serve the athletic community with a proper facility
Speaker 1: and the needs today have UM in Colorado, and uh,
Speaker 1: that's what I've kind of tradition transition to do well.
Speaker 1: I love to hear that. I love hearing guys talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, their their post playing career. You talked about
Speaker 1: the Dolphins alumni a little bit there. It's such a
Speaker 1: great program. We had Jed Weaver, another former Dolphins tight
Speaker 1: end on the podcast a while back, and he too
Speaker 1: lives here locally and does real estate also, so plenty
Speaker 1: of good company there. You're in Anthony, and speaking of
Speaker 1: good company before we get into this game, into this flashback,
Speaker 1: you're a Jersey guy as well, and we have Dolphins
Speaker 1: linebackers coach Anthony Campanelli on the Tuesday media availability and
Speaker 1: somebody asked him about the best cold cut sandwich he
Speaker 1: ever had, and Anthony went off, Man, you saw his
Speaker 1: face light up. The jersey came right out of him,
Speaker 1: and it was such a great answer. He kind of
Speaker 1: worked himself up and said, I'm mad now because i
Speaker 1: want one of those cold cuts and I'm hungry. So
Speaker 1: you have to tell us, Anthony, fellow Jersey guy, what's
Speaker 1: the best cold cut or what are the best ingredients
Speaker 1: to an essential cold cut sandwich? Yeah, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: tough to come by in the rest of the country.
Speaker 1: But honestly, besides the northeast South Florida is probably the
Speaker 1: best I've had. It's kind of a lot of Northeasterners,
Speaker 1: you know, transplant down here and small businesses follow him,
Speaker 1: so we do get some good sandwiches. It's nothing like
Speaker 1: the Northeast. Um, and I like, well, I go off
Speaker 1: any diet. I can't eating sandwiches and pizza when I'm
Speaker 1: up north, but um, down here, I mean quality of ingredients.
Speaker 1: So if you if you're not going to have a
Speaker 1: really um cured meat sandwich, I'm I'm a boar's head.
Speaker 1: Guy um, so I got a boar's head and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Lispatas is always a great local favorite, super
Speaker 1: hardy stub. But for more of a curated so, I
Speaker 1: would say there's a place in Fort Laudarel off Oakland
Speaker 1: Park called Buffarella, and it doesn't have a ton of variety,
Speaker 1: but the quality of the meats and cheeses and bread
Speaker 1: is is unbelievable. Yeah, I haven't heard of that one,
Speaker 1: but I was almost certain you were going to mention
Speaker 1: the spots across the street here from the facility in
Speaker 1: Davy every I'm pretty new to the area, Anthony. Everybody
Speaker 1: tells me go get yourself a sub from the spot
Speaker 1: of so I've done it a few times and it
Speaker 1: definitely was up to the hype there. So as much
Speaker 1: as we could talk about sandwiches all day here, and
Speaker 1: I'll have you know I was a former Subway sandwich artist,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure that's blasphemy to you to go to
Speaker 1: Subway for an artist that's what they call very nice.
Speaker 1: I can't stop laughing about that. We'll get out of
Speaker 1: the food takes here and jump into this Dolphins and
Speaker 1: Seahawks clash. I wanted to go a little more recent
Speaker 1: because there are some players in that game. They're going
Speaker 1: to be in this game as well as we play
Speaker 1: the the Seahawks rather on Sunday at hard Rock Stadium.
Speaker 1: And you were actually too and know against the Seahawks
Speaker 1: in your career as a member of the Dolphins game
Speaker 1: and the two thousand eight game, the year the Dolphins
Speaker 1: won the FC East and the Wildcat season. But the
Speaker 1: most unique aspect of this game, Anthony, was the fact
Speaker 1: that the sprinklers came on towards the end of the
Speaker 1: third quarter. How well do you remember that and kind
Speaker 1: of thinking about what was going on in the field
Speaker 1: that day. Yeah, I mean we spoke about this um
Speaker 1: this video interview and I kind of had to go
Speaker 1: back and jog my memory on some of it. But
Speaker 1: that was a memory that that lasted. Um. Just kind
Speaker 1: of funny, just typical, Um, you know, what the hell
Speaker 1: is going on? Now? We always dealt with some some
Speaker 1: adversity or some distraction and and I just you know,
Speaker 1: piled on, but not not a huge deal for the
Speaker 1: players wise. I got a little bit of a break,
Speaker 1: but you know, I wasn't sure if it was transitioning
Speaker 1: from the Marlins leaving and maybe it was on their
Speaker 1: schedule or what it may be, but definitely kind of funny.
Speaker 1: I think the announcers were saying that it was a
Speaker 1: plot to slow Russell Wilson down and the momentum they
Speaker 1: were having in the second half. So um, just just
Speaker 1: a funny memory, but not a huge impact. Yes, certainly
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Wild Wings commercial from way back in the day.
Speaker 1: Everyone wanted to hang out and get extra you know,
Speaker 1: free football as they call it, and so they pull
Speaker 1: the guy in to pull the sprinkles up out of
Speaker 1: the ground and trip the player to cause the overtime.
Speaker 1: I think they referenced that as well on the broadcast
Speaker 1: a couple of times. So some good stuff there. Do
Speaker 1: you remember any like players. Maybe Vegas had a play
Speaker 1: and over and under in Jeopardy there in Vegas, puilled
Speaker 1: the sprint Collers you wind up on Scott Van Pelt's
Speaker 1: bad Beat section or her segment there on ESPN. Do
Speaker 1: you remember any guys that were maybe like enjoying it
Speaker 1: more than others, because I'm sure you know, even though
Speaker 1: it was late November, I think it was. I mean,
Speaker 1: you got to enjoy a little bit of a shower
Speaker 1: when you get it in that South Florida heat right
Speaker 1: for sure, And definitely the fatties were enjoying the break
Speaker 1: um whether I don't know if it was in the
Speaker 1: middle of a long drive, but the big guys definitely
Speaker 1: were probably first to the sidelines and probably didn't avoid
Speaker 1: the water that much. They probably welcomed it. So but
Speaker 1: the skill, the skill guys trying to keep their hands dry,
Speaker 1: I probably avoided it. Are you willing to attach any
Speaker 1: names to the fatties designation there, Richie Cogna, Sure, I
Speaker 1: would say Jake too. He's not He's not really a fatty,
Speaker 1: He's just enormous. But uh yeah, Richie probably welcomed it.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the broadcast talking about, you know, slowing down
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, and maybe that was you know, South Florida's
Speaker 1: way of saying, we haven't had a lightning delay yet,
Speaker 1: because we've had a couple of those last last few
Speaker 1: seasons here in Miami. But does does that change the
Speaker 1: playing surface at all? Even on the grass? Did that
Speaker 1: make it wet and slippery? Not too bad and usually Florida,
Speaker 1: I mean there's some moisture in the air, there's some
Speaker 1: you know do um, so not too bad. There's really
Speaker 1: good drainage, and you know it's usually warm drives up
Speaker 1: pretty good. But yeah, definitely the first couple of plays
Speaker 1: or you know, for the next couple of drives, you know,
Speaker 1: putting your hand on the ground or you know, getting
Speaker 1: a fall but not a huge impact. And you mentioned
Speaker 1: the slowing Russell will us down and that was kind
Speaker 1: of when the game started to shift a little bit.
Speaker 1: I believe it was fourteen seven Seattle at that time.
Speaker 1: The defense gets to stop, offense goes back down and
Speaker 1: score and Charles Clay scored the game winning touchdown of
Speaker 1: this game. And you guys really formed a good versa
Speaker 1: little pair of tight ends. We talked about this off
Speaker 1: air a little bit. Something we now have in the
Speaker 1: current iteration of the Miami Dolphins with Durham Smith just
Speaker 1: wiping out dudes in the running game, Mike get sicky
Speaker 1: catching everything under the sun. How do you measure the
Speaker 1: balance among tight ends with different scale sets, Like, I
Speaker 1: want to know, does doesn't that physical, inline, classic y
Speaker 1: tight end deserve some more credit, some more celebrity in
Speaker 1: your opinion, you know, probably in the in the public size,
Speaker 1: but really I think you know, it was a role
Speaker 1: I was in and embraced my pretty much my whole career,
Speaker 1: and um, you know, to me, I kind of liked
Speaker 1: it because you flew under the radar, uh, and you
Speaker 1: had the respect of your coaches and teammates for kind
Speaker 1: of doing all the dirty work and really making plays
Speaker 1: go um that that you know, not really called out
Speaker 1: by the announcers. So I embraced it and love it.
Speaker 1: I'm sure Smith is doing it good, Notre Dame guy,
Speaker 1: And you know, it's fun to watch it, you know
Speaker 1: every time, you know, every offense you know, utilize his
Speaker 1: tight ends and the combination of them a little differently.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad to see the current Dolphins are are
Speaker 1: doing that. And it's super important. You still have to
Speaker 1: be somewhat versatile, so you don't, you know, giving away
Speaker 1: a package or runner or pass play and you got
Speaker 1: to do some both. But yeah, Charles is a great person,
Speaker 1: great player, uh. And we had a really fun year
Speaker 1: that year. I was almost certain you're going to bring
Speaker 1: up the Notre Dame connection there with Durham because you know,
Speaker 1: you guys both just wipe guys out in the running
Speaker 1: game down there as well. Always, I always appreciate watching
Speaker 1: the you know, teams that can still run the ball
Speaker 1: effectively in this modern day of of passing offense. But
Speaker 1: speaking of celebrity and rushing the football, Reggie Bush had
Speaker 1: a seven yards and touchdown on that game, and I
Speaker 1: recall him kind of getting juiced up towards the end,
Speaker 1: had some big runs and kind of got the offense
Speaker 1: sparked there a little bit. There's got to be some
Speaker 1: kind of story you can tell us about Reggie Bush's celebrity,
Speaker 1: because you know, maybe it's giving him a hard time
Speaker 1: in the locker room. What was it like playing with
Speaker 1: a guy who, even though he had so much notoriety
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy, you know, is number two overall draft pick
Speaker 1: on the football field, he had even more away from
Speaker 1: the football field needed on it. Is there a good
Speaker 1: Reggie Bus store you can tell us, Well, Reggie is
Speaker 1: a great guy. We actually played against each other and
Speaker 1: we're the same class. He played at USC you know,
Speaker 1: is that Notre Dame. So we had a we had
Speaker 1: a couple of great battles for our senior year out
Speaker 1: there in South Bend, um so we got drafted in
Speaker 1: the same class. Finally got um you know, met up
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins, when he came over, and uh, he
Speaker 1: was just unbelievable teammate, unbelievable player. And in that game specifically,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if he had his stats
Speaker 1: were super gaudy, but he was very opportunistic. You know,
Speaker 1: he was getting third down, he had a nice touchdown run. Um.
Speaker 1: So we did a lot more for that game and
Speaker 1: helped our chances more than maybe the stat line shows.
Speaker 1: But as far as far as his uh, his celebrity status,
Speaker 1: I mean I think it was attributed probably to his
Speaker 1: dating resume for a little while. Um, you know, just
Speaker 1: being a good looking guy out in l A. And
Speaker 1: and you know with the dating scene, that's what kicked
Speaker 1: him off. And then uh, Reggie and I and you know,
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys, um you know, at the right
Speaker 1: right times went out and uh, you know, he just
Speaker 1: he knew how to carry and uh, you know, he
Speaker 1: deserves it all. Yeah. I was gonna ask you if
Speaker 1: you guys ever had any keeping up with the Kardashian
Speaker 1: watch parties or anything like that. Uh, I no, I
Speaker 1: think we avoided those shows that that ship had sailed,
Speaker 1: But I'm sure you had a bunch of quick um replacements.
Speaker 1: Pretty soon after it's too good. So you know you
Speaker 1: mentioned something there about the USC Notre Dame rivalry. I'll
Speaker 1: give you an open forum here. The Bush push thoughts.
Speaker 1: It's total bullshit, and uh it's pretty much the first
Speaker 1: thing I said to him when he came in a
Speaker 1: lot room. Uh. So we'd go back and forth, and
Speaker 1: he said, there's legit, and uh, you know I told
Speaker 1: him that, Uh, you know, he needs to give me
Speaker 1: his uh his national championship ring is because of because
Speaker 1: of us. So there you go play some small part
Speaker 1: in that. I suppose. That was a hell of a game.
Speaker 1: I remember watching it, you know, all those years ago.
Speaker 1: Was one of the best collegeotball games I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: But going back to the Dolphins and Seahawks game, they
Speaker 1: running back on the other side of the field. Leon
Speaker 1: washington Man, he was a Dolphin killer for a long
Speaker 1: time Jets and Seahawks. In this game, he took a
Speaker 1: kickoff return back for a touchdown moments after the Dolphins
Speaker 1: had tied the game on a Daniel Thomas touchdown plunge
Speaker 1: the middle of the fourth quarter. What does that type
Speaker 1: of a play do for your psyche, like you get
Speaker 1: the play that kind of you know, gets the momentum
Speaker 1: back on your side and the snap of a finger,
Speaker 1: it's right back on the other side. Is that just
Speaker 1: a total killer? Yeah. And even going back a couple
Speaker 1: of plays before, Tannehill through an interception and it got
Speaker 1: called back, uh for a rough in the passer I believe,
Speaker 1: and we're able to get in close and punch it in.
Speaker 1: So it was really a big swing from a turnover
Speaker 1: to a touchdown. And then they answer right away with
Speaker 1: a long kickoff return. So that second half was really
Speaker 1: back and forth with a lot of momentum swings, and
Speaker 1: you know, it's tough to overcome that, but it's also
Speaker 1: nice being in your home stadium when when a game
Speaker 1: goes like that. And also it's just really tough for
Speaker 1: a West Coast team to travel all the way on
Speaker 1: the East Coast and play play a day game. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, the time factor, either a day or two
Speaker 1: before coming intown, it still makes a difference. So a
Speaker 1: lot of things lined up in our favorite I'm glad
Speaker 1: you mentioned the interception that got overturned because I think
Speaker 1: it was Bobby Wagner that caught the interception and Earl
Speaker 1: Thomas got hit for the flag. On a blow to
Speaker 1: Tannehill's head, which the announcers were ambivalent about at best,
Speaker 1: but in that game, so they took it off the board.
Speaker 1: But I just went and looked at the box score.
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner still had a pick, nine tackles, two pass
Speaker 1: breakups in that game. And he'll be out there this Sunday,
Speaker 1: eight years after the fact. I'm asking I'm curious to
Speaker 1: ask you, Anthony, when you watched him play immediately think
Speaker 1: that was either his rookie year or his second year.
Speaker 1: Did you see it like instantly with Bobby Wagner. Sure,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's rare that you circle a guy um,
Speaker 1: you know in your meetings and practices leading up to
Speaker 1: the game, who's so young. But he definitely got that
Speaker 1: respect back then, and he's only continued that and it's
Speaker 1: gotten better. Just a player that I think unanimously everyone
Speaker 1: else respects um and the way he carries himself, the
Speaker 1: way he plays a game. I mean, I believe he
Speaker 1: did his own contaur his his most recent contract. He
Speaker 1: didn't have an agent, so just you can tell he's
Speaker 1: a super smart guy on and off the field and
Speaker 1: carries himself like a true pro and I personally consider
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner a future Hall of Famer. We'll see what,
Speaker 1: you know, the voters do years down the line, but
Speaker 1: I think one guy that will get in pretty much
Speaker 1: sure fire at this point hasn't missed a game in
Speaker 1: his nine year professional career is Russell Wilson. And you
Speaker 1: saw him there on that field again as a rookie,
Speaker 1: and that was about the time where he started get
Speaker 1: really heated up. I think after losing that game, the
Speaker 1: Seahawks went on to win the rest of their games,
Speaker 1: got into the playoffs. Same question, did you see it
Speaker 1: right away with Russell Wilson even though you're on the
Speaker 1: offensive side of the football. Yeah, being on the offensive side,
Speaker 1: you don't pay attention, but you know, you know the
Speaker 1: Marquete names, and uh, not really knowing what to expect
Speaker 1: with Russell. And I think it was his rookie year. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, not not sure if he's a pro style
Speaker 1: quarterback or running college types quarterback, but he really he
Speaker 1: mixed those skills really well. Uh. And in that game,
Speaker 1: you know, he got out of some sacks and and
Speaker 1: made some really nice plays. He made some plays with
Speaker 1: his feet. But conversely, our defense really played well and
Speaker 1: stepped up when they need. You see that game they
Speaker 1: did and you guys get the late touchdown there from
Speaker 1: Charles Clay and eventually the game winning field goal as
Speaker 1: Tanny Hill kind of gets to heat it up there
Speaker 1: when the team lines up for that game when he
Speaker 1: filled goal at the end. What goes through a player's
Speaker 1: mind as you you know, it's either your one kick
Speaker 1: away after sixty minutes of physical, battling football to come
Speaker 1: down to a kick like that, What walk us through
Speaker 1: how that feels for a player. And on that day
Speaker 1: with Dan Carpenter hitting the game winner, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: we had all the confidence in the world in Dan
Speaker 1: and uh you know, as an offense, you know you
Speaker 1: need to get to that thirty five yard line or
Speaker 1: close to it, and you did your job. And uh
Speaker 1: you know, as an offense, you're just out there trying
Speaker 1: to move the change, you know, having no negative plays.
Speaker 1: We actually had a penalty on a grounding you know
Speaker 1: when we were grounding the ball. So um, like those
Speaker 1: type of things really kill you on those type of drives.
Speaker 1: So for us to overcome that and continue to move
Speaker 1: the chains to bon Best had an unbelievable game. Um,
Speaker 1: some really great catches and runs Ryan found him. Ryan
Speaker 1: ran for a lot of first downs that game as well. So, um,
Speaker 1: a lot of things came together and we overcame a
Speaker 1: lot of obstacles. But really, as an offensive you know,
Speaker 1: you're just trying to get down there and let the
Speaker 1: kicker get in the best position possible. You mentioned Ryan Tannehill.
Speaker 1: That was his rookie season here in Miami, and then
Speaker 1: you came back for a second stint with the Dolphins
Speaker 1: in seventeen and Tannehill was here again. But of course
Speaker 1: that was the year he missed due to the a
Speaker 1: c L and read that he suffered in training camp.
Speaker 1: I'm curious, Anthony, what went into the decision to come
Speaker 1: back to Miami and finish your career as a Dolphin. Well,
Speaker 1: I always I always lived in South Florida in the
Speaker 1: off season, kept the home here, and always new in
Speaker 1: the back of my head i'd probably wind up here
Speaker 1: living wise, and um, you know, always kept in contact
Speaker 1: with a bunch of guys on a team, and you know,
Speaker 1: had some mutual contacts with without him Gaze and uh
Speaker 1: in the front office. So when the opportunity came, you know,
Speaker 1: I jumped all over it knowing you know, I was
Speaker 1: on the tail end of my career and it would
Speaker 1: be really nice to be able to finish back home
Speaker 1: and also where I spent most of my career. One
Speaker 1: more question for you here, Anthony. We talked a little
Speaker 1: bit about the you know, two thousand and twelve against
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, two thousand and eight against the Seahawks, and
Speaker 1: that of course was the Wildcats season and you know,
Speaker 1: going back to your college days, your professional days, doing
Speaker 1: so much work in the running game. What was it
Speaker 1: like for you at the tight end position to kind
Speaker 1: of see this new package evolve into the NFL and
Speaker 1: be kind of spearheaded by the Miami Dolphins and and
Speaker 1: your role in that Wildcat package. Did you embrace it
Speaker 1: right away? What was it like for you? Well, we
Speaker 1: you know, we sprinkled it in during camp and you know,
Speaker 1: some meetings and you know, players never really knew if
Speaker 1: it would come to light, but we were owing too
Speaker 1: and going up to New England, so I would I
Speaker 1: would welcome anything, uh, you know at that point, um,
Speaker 1: you know, to change kind of the tide in a
Speaker 1: direction of where we were going. Um. Dan Henning did
Speaker 1: a great job installing it and utilizing the players and
Speaker 1: their skills in that package. And you know, as good
Speaker 1: as it was for us, I think it was overblown.
Speaker 1: You know, I think people saw us as a wildcat
Speaker 1: offense when really we only sprinkled it in, you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of times a game. So it was a
Speaker 1: nice mix up. Um. You know, NFL catches on quick,
Speaker 1: so I don't know how long it lived, but it
Speaker 1: definitely helps spark us um not only yards and points,
Speaker 1: but kind of an attitude and rejuvenation for that team
Speaker 1: for the rest of the year ago on and when
Speaker 1: the division. Yeah, it's cool to hear you say that,
Speaker 1: because we Chad Pennington on over the summer talking about
Speaker 1: the you know, the first the unveiling of the Wildcat
Speaker 1: up in New England. And I'm going to ask you
Speaker 1: one more question here. I lied it. I apologize about that,
Speaker 1: but he he kind of talked about the same thing
Speaker 1: you did. You know, it was more of a way
Speaker 1: to kind of to throw in a wrinkle and kind
Speaker 1: of jump start the offense. But your guys, passing offense
Speaker 1: was still so good that year with Chad Pennington throwing
Speaker 1: so many touchdown passes and so few turnovers. And interceptions,
Speaker 1: and Anthony, I'll never forget. I must have been twenty
Speaker 1: one years old the time you caught the touchdown against
Speaker 1: the Jets right there in the corner of the end
Speaker 1: zone to put the Dolphins into the into the driver's
Speaker 1: seat for that game and the driver's seat for the
Speaker 1: a f C East Championship. What was it like for
Speaker 1: you to go into New York that day and and
Speaker 1: you know Jersey, I should say, and captured the a
Speaker 1: f c's crowned against the you know, hometown team there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was awesome. And I grew up right there,
Speaker 1: just a couple of miles away, so I had a
Speaker 1: bunch of you know friends and family in town. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I always disliked the Jets. I actually grew
Speaker 1: up a Giant fan, So any chance I got to
Speaker 1: stick it to the Jets, I loved it. And for
Speaker 1: that to happen, um, because I believe we locked tom
Speaker 1: week one that year and then came back and beat
Speaker 1: him last game of the season. So it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's always tough to play teams multiple times in the year,
Speaker 1: and then having a huge gap in between also makes
Speaker 1: it tough. So going up there with everything on the line. Um,
Speaker 1: you know it was. It was super important winning. Happy
Speaker 1: to be uh be a part of it. It was.
Speaker 1: It was a very fun year. Yeah. I always look
Speaker 1: back fondly on that season and then you were a
Speaker 1: big part of the Anthony. So as a Dolphins fan,
Speaker 1: we really appreciate that. Anthony Fossano. Six years as a Dolphin,
Speaker 1: twelve years as a pro, two nine catches, thirty six
Speaker 1: of those for touchdowns, and a member of the two
Speaker 1: thousand eight a f C East championship team. Anthony, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for your time today. Man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. But there he goes Dolphins former
Speaker 1: tight end Anthony Fossano. Good memories. They're talking about this
Speaker 1: Dolphins and Seahawks twelve game. And to continue this conversation
Speaker 1: about the Dolphins and Seahawks rivalry and this game, let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and welcome in the Ghosts of the fish
Speaker 1: Tank podcast. Both Seth Levitt and O. J McDuffie and
Speaker 1: joining me now are the host of the fish Tank Podcast.
Speaker 1: Are Seth Levitt, O J McDuffie and Seth. You'll be
Speaker 1: happy to know, man, before I brought you guys on
Speaker 1: I put your name first on the introduction. Man. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that was a smart move, Travis, I know,
Speaker 1: but I definitely appreciate it. It's great to be back
Speaker 1: in drivetime. Man, did you say you know what they
Speaker 1: do with Travis Mays? The quarterback? Quarterbacks always recognized first
Speaker 1: man's going back to receiver. There you go. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's Rino to McDuffie and Levitt to McDuffie these days.
Speaker 1: So we'll we'll keep that. We'll keep that like that going.
Speaker 1: But that's a good company. I'll take you again. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if it was earned, but I will take you. Well.
Speaker 1: That's that's where we're gonna start this podcast today because
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Sprinkler game here. In just one second,
Speaker 1: we had Anthony Fasano, Dolphins tight end on the podcast.
Speaker 1: But you know, I was talking to Seth a little
Speaker 1: bit off air about how these games against NFC teams,
Speaker 1: there's not like with with such few games, it's good
Speaker 1: to kind of encapsulate the entire history of the rivalry,
Speaker 1: I guess if you want to call it. And for
Speaker 1: a while there, the Seahawks and Dolphins kind of were
Speaker 1: rivals because there were some good playoff matchups, the revenge
Speaker 1: in the eighties with Marino and then coming back in
Speaker 1: nine D nine to close down the Kingdom. And I
Speaker 1: want to start with shut that place down, because I
Speaker 1: want to start here with you, Juice. Uh, you you
Speaker 1: shut down my childhood stomping grounds man. That was That's
Speaker 1: where I spent a lot of my youth. I was
Speaker 1: there for the end of the run for the Marriagers
Speaker 1: and they lost to the Cleveland Indians in the ALCS.
Speaker 1: I was my Indians. By the way, Travis, he's getting
Speaker 1: there from all angles. Yes, he's off, Juice, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: I was. I was there for Junior's fiftieth home run
Speaker 1: in NINETI seven. I was there for Mariano Rivera throwing
Speaker 1: me a ball up in the stand during batting practice, Like,
Speaker 1: I love that place, and you shut that thing down.
Speaker 1: Is that the best game you ever played against the Seahawks, Juice? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, what you talked about it's so little history, man,
Speaker 1: But whenever you get into a playoff game, you get
Speaker 1: an opportunity to play against those guys out there. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's definitely the best game I had against those guys.
Speaker 1: I was coming off the foot injury at that point too,
Speaker 1: so not really coming off I'm dealing with that foot
Speaker 1: injury and so playing on that surface, as you know,
Speaker 1: it was not a pleasant situation. Man. But when it
Speaker 1: comes down to play off time and it's everybody, you know,
Speaker 1: stop it up and look you're ready to go no
Speaker 1: matter what the situation is. And I think that was
Speaker 1: the case out there. What a long trip though, man,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's about as far as it goes. Right
Speaker 1: where we were to I'll be out to Seattle. That
Speaker 1: was a long trip. Yeah, I fly it all the time.
Speaker 1: It's it's not fun. Nowadays you get a little bit
Speaker 1: of space though, because the way flying is with with
Speaker 1: COVID restrictions and stuff. So that's I guess a little better.
Speaker 1: But I mean, um, you know you mentioned the turf there,
Speaker 1: the surface at the Kingdom. I remember watching Omar of
Speaker 1: a Scale he was a Marin before he played for Cleveland,
Speaker 1: you know, catching those high choppers at short stop with
Speaker 1: his bare hand and throwing it across the diamond just
Speaker 1: changed baseball, and I'm sure it changed football too. Now, Seth,
Speaker 1: you had mentioned before about how you learned quickly on
Speaker 1: the flights back home to to kind of keep to yourself, right,
Speaker 1: not to talk to anybody. But I have to imagine
Speaker 1: this one was a little bit better, right that flight
Speaker 1: back from Seattle to Miami. A winning charter flight is
Speaker 1: a whole different experience than a losing one. I mean again,
Speaker 1: you lose from the moment you get in that locker room.
Speaker 1: Your mouth is shut, you do your job. I try
Speaker 1: and choose the bus. I was a bus four guy, Juice,
Speaker 1: when we were coming back from a game. I wanted
Speaker 1: to be as far away from the head coach as
Speaker 1: I possibly could, because he's always on bus one, and
Speaker 1: you know certain players are on certain buses. I sat
Speaker 1: with the guys that they didn't want on any other
Speaker 1: bus and just to stay out of trouble. But still
Speaker 1: you keep your mouth shut. And then his pr guys,
Speaker 1: you're just you're pounding away on that press release, and
Speaker 1: particularly on a long flight, you're gonna utilize all that
Speaker 1: time to get your work done so you don't have
Speaker 1: to go right into the office when you land, even
Speaker 1: though inevitably it may happen. But yes, when you win,
Speaker 1: you know, when the team wins, everybody's feeling great from
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback to the number three pr guy like myself.
Speaker 1: You know, you feel like you're a part of something.
Speaker 1: You can't wait for the next game. Uh, those guys
Speaker 1: who actually did get playoff bonuses. I was not lucky
Speaker 1: enough to get any piece of that action. But those
Speaker 1: guys who did, you know, they were already spending that
Speaker 1: money on the way back. I'm sure and uh, and
Speaker 1: it's just you know it. It is what's magical about
Speaker 1: work in sports. For those victories and being able to
Speaker 1: spend that time with the guys who made it. Half
Speaker 1: were you punching up that press release on your typewriter?
Speaker 1: I didn't have a typewriter. I didn't have a little
Speaker 1: word process my typewriter. Harvey Green would have brought a
Speaker 1: typewriter if we let him. For sure, we were a
Speaker 1: little archaic, even as we tried to advance into some
Speaker 1: more more modern times. But I did have juice. Remember
Speaker 1: we all had the little um the portable DVD players.
Speaker 1: Like that was the thing if you had your portable
Speaker 1: d you know, there was no downloading and streaming Netflix
Speaker 1: or anything if you had your portable DVD player. Uh.
Speaker 1: The thing that always got me about it, though, Juice,
Speaker 1: I always had good movies and j T would always
Speaker 1: want to borrow a movie and he never turned never
Speaker 1: got bad. I was making millions of dollars a year
Speaker 1: and I have all these empty DVD cases because I
Speaker 1: think that was the years of the bootleg DVDs. Two.
Speaker 1: You know, you got the one with the guy walking
Speaker 1: across the screen on you because you wanted to get
Speaker 1: the current movie at that point. You didn't want something
Speaker 1: that came out a year ago. Team charter every now
Speaker 1: and then until you walk across everybody with Google those
Speaker 1: portable DVD players. You know, again, we always find a
Speaker 1: way to kind of to aid you guys here on
Speaker 1: this podcast. Those those I was on travel baseball teams
Speaker 1: back in the day, and those were game changers for
Speaker 1: those days. But we've we've gone far off the rails here.
Speaker 1: I want to get back to the game, the Seahawks
Speaker 1: at the Dolphins, and Juice, you mentioned before we came
Speaker 1: on the podcast here that you never missed Dolphins home
Speaker 1: games since you got drafted by the team, and that
Speaker 1: goes into your post playing career. Now, this game was
Speaker 1: unique because the Sprinklers came on at the very end
Speaker 1: of the third quarter, Dolphins were tilling by seven. The
Speaker 1: announcers joke, maybe they're trying to slow down Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: who we're going to see, you know, in a couple
Speaker 1: of days here back at hard Rock Stadium for the
Speaker 1: first time since that game. Do you recall that. Do
Speaker 1: you remember anything about the sprinklers situation there during that game?
Speaker 1: I do. I do slightly remember that. I mean I
Speaker 1: don't obviously I didn't hear the announcers make any any
Speaker 1: comments like that, but they're right, we did need to
Speaker 1: try to slow them down. Man. I mean, that young
Speaker 1: gun right there already, you know, going head to head
Speaker 1: with Ryan, you know, both the first years. Man, he
Speaker 1: was he was special and we didn't really know especially
Speaker 1: was you know, we knew where he was drafted. I
Speaker 1: know he was on the he was up and coming,
Speaker 1: but he really started to shine in our game, and
Speaker 1: obviously he's Flurri's ever since. But I don't remember Spraaker
Speaker 1: system and no way we did that on purpose. Now,
Speaker 1: we did that on purpose at Penn State versus U M,
Speaker 1: but we would never do that on purpose in Miami.
Speaker 1: I remember that game had a really distinct connection between
Speaker 1: you know again, being a guy from Seattle that you
Speaker 1: know as a Dolphins fan, I would listen to seven
Speaker 1: ten ESPN Radio Open Seattle and they that whole offseason
Speaker 1: it was. It was a show called Brock and Sock,
Speaker 1: and they would it was Brock Heward and Mike Salt
Speaker 1: and and they would talk about how they were so
Speaker 1: distraught because Sock thought that the Seahawks weren't gonna come
Speaker 1: out with any of the great quarterbacks that year, Andrew Luck,
Speaker 1: Robert Griffin. They put Matt Flynn in that group. And
Speaker 1: you guys might recall that Joe Philbin, the Matt Flynn connection,
Speaker 1: everybody linked to the Dolphins to signing Matt Flynn. And
Speaker 1: I actually called into the radio that that's that's what
Speaker 1: I was in that day. I was a radio call
Speaker 1: that I wish we could say because I called in
Speaker 1: and I said, here's what's gonna happen. Mike Sherman has
Speaker 1: a connection to Ryan Tannehill. The Dolphins are gonna draft him.
Speaker 1: They're gonna pass on Matt Flynn. And sure enough, all
Speaker 1: of that happened. And this is a way of saying,
Speaker 1: the Seahawks wind up with Russell Wilson and Matt Flynn
Speaker 1: and everybody thought he was gonna start, and then Wilson
Speaker 1: comes in and beat him out, as Juice mentioned as
Speaker 1: a third round pick, and now here he is nine
Speaker 1: years later, hasn't missed a game on his way to
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame career. So it's it's crazy the way,
Speaker 1: you know, it's that one the Benjamin Button thing, right,
Speaker 1: one thing can change so much in the landscape of football, right,
Speaker 1: so absolutely can. Yeah, there's no doubt, And and you're right.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, we all know what this team has
Speaker 1: been trying to find since Dan Marino retired with respect
Speaker 1: of the quarterback position and drafting Ryan where they did,
Speaker 1: and Ryan having some question marks is the fact that
Speaker 1: he played receiver, which for some reason they still talk
Speaker 1: about the fact that he played receiver in college. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, we wanted to see what this young guy
Speaker 1: could do, and and Russell Wilson was starting to show
Speaker 1: the signs of of what we see now, and so
Speaker 1: that was that was a big matchup between these two
Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks and what I remember, you know, and and
Speaker 1: that was a lot different than when I worked with
Speaker 1: the team. So at that point I'm really just watching,
Speaker 1: like any other fan. But what I do remember is
Speaker 1: that was the first time we saw that Ryan could
Speaker 1: bring a team back in the fourth quarter. And I
Speaker 1: think there were two or three scoring drives in that
Speaker 1: fourth quarter that that were required for the Dolphins to
Speaker 1: get the victory. And that was encouraging in that moment.
Speaker 1: You know, that's what you want to see, right, juice,
Speaker 1: you want to see a quarterback. Hey, anybody can make
Speaker 1: the throws. Not anybody, and obviously takes a lot to
Speaker 1: get there, but you can make the throws in the
Speaker 1: first down, in the first quarter and when things are
Speaker 1: going good, but when when it becomes crunch time and
Speaker 1: the team needs you and you gotta put them on
Speaker 1: your back. And that was I think the first time
Speaker 1: we saw that from Ryan. I know, people have their
Speaker 1: own opinions, and certainly he's doing a great job where
Speaker 1: he's at now, but that that was a moment where
Speaker 1: he said, all right, well, maybe we have something here,
Speaker 1: but we know those guys in Seattle have something over there. Yeah, absolutely, man,
Speaker 1: you know, And that was that was at that moment
Speaker 1: that we said, all right, finally we got a guy
Speaker 1: you know that can we know we can count on
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter you said the best those set. You know,
Speaker 1: most guys are pretty good in the first, second quarter,
Speaker 1: first downs, things like that, but when it gets down
Speaker 1: that fourth quarter and it's time to go down there
Speaker 1: and make a play, you know, I played with the
Speaker 1: best to ever do it, you know. And any time
Speaker 1: you've got that held on that fourth quarter, you knew
Speaker 1: we're up or down, we need to touchdown field or whatever.
Speaker 1: We knew we had an opportunity and we're gonna go
Speaker 1: down there and get it done. And sometimes we didn't
Speaker 1: get it done, obviously, but we knew we had that
Speaker 1: confidence and that swagger to go down and get it done.
Speaker 1: Danny didn't ever We never want a kicker to come
Speaker 1: onto the field, you know. That's we're not gonna let
Speaker 1: you know, one of the greatest kickers, peace, let we're
Speaker 1: not gonna we're not even gonna call him one too
Speaker 1: the field to come in here to tired or try
Speaker 1: to win, and we're gonna win it ourselves. And you're
Speaker 1: right that the game Ryan had right there, you know,
Speaker 1: with the the in the fourth quarter, when you go
Speaker 1: down you put a few scoring drivers together. That's the
Speaker 1: coming of a coming of age moment. And we thought
Speaker 1: you know, as a rookie, that's that guy, and you
Speaker 1: know it just wasn't consistent enough. But that game right there,
Speaker 1: definitely you put his big boy pants on, did a
Speaker 1: heck with Force, had the big touchdown pass to Charles
Speaker 1: Clay and then after that the Seahawks got the football back,
Speaker 1: and you kind of thought, well, here's Russ. You know,
Speaker 1: this is kind of what he's done at North Carolina State,
Speaker 1: at Wisconsin and obviously in hindsight now in the NFL,
Speaker 1: it's all he does is take his team down for
Speaker 1: for game winning scores at the end, but the Dolphins
Speaker 1: held him. Get the ball back to Tannehill. He goes
Speaker 1: right back to his guy de Von Best for a
Speaker 1: bunch of big players in the passing game, and then
Speaker 1: the kicker does come on the field, Juice and Dan
Speaker 1: Carpenter hit it to put us into the winner circle.
Speaker 1: So that was a fun game. I mean, I was.
Speaker 1: You know, I had just moved back to my hometown
Speaker 1: from Seattle. I'm from central eastern Washington and I just
Speaker 1: moved back and like I needed that game too for
Speaker 1: bragging rights for four years, and it meant so much
Speaker 1: to me to get like more than a Bills or
Speaker 1: Jets or Patriots game. At the time, I was so
Speaker 1: pumped for that. But I want to go talk now
Speaker 1: about some of the stuff you guys are working on
Speaker 1: at the Fish Tank podcast. We just had Todd Wade
Speaker 1: on and once again to aide you guys, those were
Speaker 1: my golden years, guys, two thousand, two thousand three, Todd
Speaker 1: Wade's career, the Ricky Williams years, right after you know,
Speaker 1: the end of Dan and then coming into Jay and
Speaker 1: then obviously, uh with you there, Juice. Still it's I
Speaker 1: love that era of football with j T and Zach
Speaker 1: And can you guys just kind of tell us I'll
Speaker 1: go ahead and go to you Seth about the Todd
Speaker 1: Wade podcast and and uh, some good stuff you got
Speaker 1: out of that episode. Yeah, Well, we had a great
Speaker 1: time with Todd, and I think even O J was
Speaker 1: surprised a little bit that you know Todd is he
Speaker 1: called him a gentle giant early on and and he
Speaker 1: is a nice guy and a relatively quiet guy. But
Speaker 1: there was a whole other side to Todd. That's that's
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. But I remember when we selected
Speaker 1: him in two thousand, we didn't have a first round
Speaker 1: draft choice, so he really came in kind of like
Speaker 1: the first round draft choice, and uh, you know as
Speaker 1: as a second round pick and just a mountain of
Speaker 1: a man. I mean he's six eight and three plus pounds,
Speaker 1: but also not a not a big sloppy guy, right,
Speaker 1: Jason was put together and he liked to be physical.
Speaker 1: I think he jokes in the podcast about some of
Speaker 1: the fights he'd get in with JT and some of
Speaker 1: the other guys in the D line and he'd look
Speaker 1: around and the other offensive line and he used to
Speaker 1: term grazing, which I thought was fantastic, so that other
Speaker 1: guys were crazy while he's in there mixing up, and
Speaker 1: it shows you he was a physical guy who who
Speaker 1: liked to mix it up and liked to try and
Speaker 1: pound on defensive linemen and get in their heads and um.
Speaker 1: But really just a popular guy in the locker room.
Speaker 1: And I think, uh, whether he was singing or whether
Speaker 1: he was doing his incredible hop pos, we got to
Speaker 1: see in the tank why he was so much fun.
Speaker 1: And I also felt that was interesting to see his
Speaker 1: his run from Mayor for his hometown. Man, you know,
Speaker 1: he made a merrill run for his hit in his
Speaker 1: hometown and the reason that a couple of reasons. It
Speaker 1: was hilarious, man. You know, he just wanted he just
Speaker 1: wanted beer sales on Sunday, man, and want to fight
Speaker 1: beer on Sunday. That's it. He wanted to change a
Speaker 1: couple of rules. That's unbelievable. He Well, I was gonna say, juice,
Speaker 1: you used it out of those fights you talked about
Speaker 1: right with the offensive lineman. That was that was not
Speaker 1: your game, right man? You got to pick another dB
Speaker 1: and the backside, you know, it's your brother in law,
Speaker 1: and you gotta act like you're roughing it up on
Speaker 1: the back side, you know, just hugging each other, really
Speaker 1: shaking each other up a little bit, because you know,
Speaker 1: my hands are too important. Jabers, you can't be going
Speaker 1: there swinging at these dude. These dudes don't care about
Speaker 1: their hands. They face, they take their helmets off. Some dummies, dude,
Speaker 1: you know, for dbs and wide receivers, and we're trying
Speaker 1: to stay pretty the whole time. We gotta keep our
Speaker 1: hands right. So there's no way I was gonna mix it,
Speaker 1: not with anybody, and its transason wearing equipment. So imagine
Speaker 1: if you're standing on the sidelines ten yards away from
Speaker 1: these super human monsters. Town guys just going at it,
Speaker 1: and it is a scary sight. And when Todd got
Speaker 1: into it, it wasn't ever one on one and ended
Speaker 1: up being two, three, four, and guys were coming in
Speaker 1: and you know, you'd see stew would always drop the radio,
Speaker 1: Steu Wine Stee Scurity worker would always drop the radio
Speaker 1: and get in there. And John gimm Those are the
Speaker 1: only two guys. I think they had enough courage without
Speaker 1: a helmet on to try and pull those guys apart.
Speaker 1: But it would get ugly. And I don't blame Juice
Speaker 1: because I know I went the other way, that's for sure. Well,
Speaker 1: you see, Jeff, you seem like lions in the Safari
Speaker 1: right when they go after one of those big animals. Man,
Speaker 1: you need at least three or four of them. Man,
Speaker 1: that's the same way you had to go out Todd. Wait,
Speaker 1: you can't just go at him one on one, as ja.
Speaker 1: You know he was on the bottom of a pile.
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta go three or four deep on him. Man,
Speaker 1: he was that big of a dude, said he's still
Speaker 1: holding to this day. Tom took issue with that. Well,
Speaker 1: you guys, talk about you know, I always think about
Speaker 1: the guys that throw punches at the helmet and I
Speaker 1: never understand that. O J. I'm sure you don't either,
Speaker 1: because you talk about keeping your hands. You know, those
Speaker 1: are the most important part of your entire livelihood. And
Speaker 1: then you see like Brian Balding, your Friendstance, one of
Speaker 1: the greatest analysts there is, and he's got the finger
Speaker 1: that's you know, taking a ninety degree turn of the knuckle.
Speaker 1: I just it always gets me how that works. And
Speaker 1: well they I mean, like Tory holt To, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not from catching passes that that happens, where the
Speaker 1: fingers just get all jacked up like that. It's many ways.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of times you could be with
Speaker 1: the football itself, but sometimes a lot of times that
Speaker 1: helmet you hit somebody's helmet um trying to block. You know,
Speaker 1: I've just located all my fingers as well, somehow, some way.
Speaker 1: But it can be different ways. Man, A lot of
Speaker 1: times when you get that helmet, you know, the face
Speaker 1: mask usual gets you. Most of the time. You guys
Speaker 1: can hear him or banter and stories like this with
Speaker 1: Seth and Juice on The Fish Tank Podcast, Todd Wade
Speaker 1: came out earlier this week. What's coming up next for
Speaker 1: you guys? Seth one of OJ's favorite teammates right where
Speaker 1: Keith Jackson? Oh, nearly right? So ke not that Keith Jackson,
Speaker 1: the Keith Jackson who caught a lot of touchdown passes. Uh,
Speaker 1: just a lot of passes general from Dan Marino. Um.
Speaker 1: And you know, certainly some fans and some other cities
Speaker 1: are cheered on Keith, but he was, he was a
Speaker 1: fan favorite here in Miami. Uh. Sounds like he and
Speaker 1: O J got along just fine when he was down here.
Speaker 1: And really a great interview, just so just such a
Speaker 1: bright guy but also a great sense of humor and
Speaker 1: and you know the way you like to tell us
Speaker 1: how old we are, Travis. Keith Jackson played in the
Speaker 1: era that was you know, I I was that young
Speaker 1: guy that was cheering on Keith and drawing pictures of
Speaker 1: them and everything. So it was a real, uh, just
Speaker 1: a real treat for me to have him in the
Speaker 1: tank and to hear some of those great stories. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's some really really good stories. Just a
Speaker 1: little tease about you know, we see how these guys
Speaker 1: making all this money now and free a me seek
Speaker 1: keuthe Jackson. They cute Jackson a lot of money and
Speaker 1: he says it in the podcast. There you go. It's
Speaker 1: Seth Levitt with one t O J Juice mcdiki here
Speaker 1: on the on the Draft On podcast. Anytime I felt
Speaker 1: I felt horrible about that, Seth. I know you said
Speaker 1: it wasn't a big deal, but I felt so bad
Speaker 1: about it. Well, I'm you know, it is a big
Speaker 1: deal to meet travits. I tried not to let on
Speaker 1: Harvey Green. My boss would turn my name in the
Speaker 1: credential sheet for eight years with two teas on it,
Speaker 1: so my name was spelled wrong in every visiting stadium
Speaker 1: in the entire my entire tenure with the Dolphins with
Speaker 1: two teas. So I know I'm opening myself up because
Speaker 1: just like in the locker room, if you show them
Speaker 1: you're sensitive, they're just gonna go right, They're gonna pounder
Speaker 1: all the two te tweets now. But I appreciate you
Speaker 1: pointing that out, Trams. Yeah, no, bro, man, my my
Speaker 1: credential right now is a selfie I took because of
Speaker 1: if COVID. I had to take it myself. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I've got this like creepy grin on my face. It's
Speaker 1: not a good look for me. So I I appreciate
Speaker 1: the credentials. You got a picture on hires. All right, boys,
Speaker 1: we'll get out of here. Sethan's use fish Tank podcast.
Speaker 1: Thanks to come on Drivetime boys. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having us, oh man, I love those podcasts
Speaker 1: every single time. Those guys are great. Check out the
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