WEBVTT - Drive Time - Fins Flashback with Anthony Fasano 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:07.840 Fractors Dolphins factorc touchdown. What a win for this Miami 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:13.200 Dolphin team. Wow? What is up? Dolphins? And welcome to 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:16.959 the Drive Time Podcast, part of the Miami Dolphins official 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:21.079 podcast network, covering your team, your Miami Dolphins, each and 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:24.760 every day. How's it going everybody? It is Friday. I 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:27.720 am your host, Travis Wingfield, and I'm here to bring 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:30.680 you your daily dose of Miami Dolphins football. And on 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:33.839 today's show, it is in fact Friday, just ahead of 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:36.600 the weekend of the Dolphins home game on Sunday against 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:39.920 the Seattle Seahawks at one o'clock Eastern Time out here 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:42.840 at hard Rock Stadium. On today's podcast, will get final 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.280 injury News, will get John Kigemmi's three takeaways on the 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:49.600 other side of the Dolphins Seahawks preview from the podcast yesterday, 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:54.080 and we'll also get to Anthony Fasano on flashback Friday 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:57.680 Dolphins Seahawks match up the Sprinkler Game. Will cover that 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:00.760 and so much more here on this Friday day, October. 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:07.520 The second edition of the Drive Time Podcast and support 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.240 for phrase podcast is brought to you by Auto Nation. 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:13.240 There are so many reasons to drive pink, but for 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:17.000 Auto Nation, there's only one to finish the fight against cancer. 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.840 In fact, Auto Nation has helped raise over twenty five 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.080 millions to drive out Cancer. To join the fight, visit 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:26.960 the Auto Nation store near you or drive pink dot com. 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:29.440 And we've got a few good guests coming up for 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.319 you here on this Flashback Friday edition of the Dolphins 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:35.600 Podcast De Fins Flashback. I should say on this Friday, 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:38.759 but first before we get to Seth levitt, O, J McDuffie, 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.920 and our preacher guest today, Anthony Fasano, let's first talk 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:45.520 about John Knjemmy's three Keys to Seattle, and it's kind 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:47.600 of a crossover between what I had talked about on 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:51.120 the preview pod yesterday. Number one, he talks about limiting 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:53.560 Russell Wilson's reps. How do you do that you're on 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:55.520 the football. You try to keep them in third down 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.720 and long situations. But John goes more in depth on that, 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:00.680 talking about how the dolph Us have to find a 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:04.000 way to contain Russell Wilson from making those off script plays, 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:06.960 those scramble plays where he extends, gets out and just 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:09.880 destroys you down the football field, whether it's running the 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:13.000 football or throwing vertically. We talked about it in the preview, 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.919 the way that the Cowboys rushed Russell Wilson with kind 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.640 of that rush contained approach Alden Smith working through the 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:20.919 tackle rather than trying to get up field around the 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.240 tackle and disengage that way, you have to play with 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:25.960 your eyes and the quarterback. Definitely a key to this 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.240 game is trying to find a way to contain Russell Wilson, 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.600 because no one's on it so far through three games. 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.800 Number two, Defend the explosive plays. Anyone who has watched 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.200 the Seahawks on offense knows what their past offense is 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.760 capable of producing. John writes the explosive over the type, 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:43.679 over the top type of plays with DK Metcalf Tyler Lockett. 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:47.520 He talks about the big, physical, strong, large catch radius 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.640 of DK Metcalf and how difficult he can be to defend. 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:52.400 And he also put in here the good news on 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.799 the other side for the Dolphins receiving corps on our 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:57.400 on our own side is that the Seahawks secondary has 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.959 allowed twenty seven more catches and four hundred more yard 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:03.320 It's than opposing to opposing offenses than any other defense 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.000 so far in the NFL this season. So and I 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:07.919 had mentioned this to John's the Buffalo game. Hey John, 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:09.600 how about an explosive play right here? And he goes, 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.440 I would love that, Travis, And so maybe he put 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.400 a little bit of that sprinkle, that seasoning in there 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:16.079 for the number two key to Seattle and number three 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.720 is to spread the wealth. Talking about the Seahawks defense 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.320 once again, it might be wise, John writes for the 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.519 Dolphins that have a past first mentality. He writes, getting 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:27.560 everybody involved early in the game and spreading the football around, 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.079 much like last Thursday night in Jacksonville, might be a 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.640 good strategy this week as well. And he goes on 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:35.040 to talk about how this might provide more rushing lanes 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:37.840 and more opportunities for guys like Miles Gaskin and Matt 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.040 Brita as the game moves along. And just to kind 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.680 of echo that last point, they're talking about how you 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:45.520 can use the Miami and I know it's October now, 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.800 but the early season, September October heat and humidity down 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:50.400 here to maybe try to wear our team out. We've 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:51.880 seen that in the past. We saw it with the 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.160 Pittsburgh Steelers a few years back. I recall the two 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.760 thousand five game against the Broncos, for instance, where the 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.160 Dolphins just had them gassed towards the end of the game. 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:01.200 So if you can possess us the ball, run the football, 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:03.080 you might be able to see a you know, Matt 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.240 Breeder with that long speed break off a big run 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.440 against a tired defense once you've worn them down. So 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.040 spreading the wealth is John's third key to the game. 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.360 You guys can find that article up on Miami Dolphins 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:14.440 dot com, as well as the written element to the 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:17.520 fence flashback the game preview. We have tons of content 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:20.240 on Miami Dolphins dot com for you, as well as 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.760 a new addition of the Fish Tank podcast with Seth 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.000 Juice and Todd Wade. We're gonna talk to them at 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.719 the end of this interview here coming up with Anthony Fasano. 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.120 But first before we get to that, the injury report 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:33.600 here for this Friday for your Miami Dolphins. We have 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:37.120 four players listed with game status is on this injury report. 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:40.279 Both Solomon Kinley and to a Tongue of Valoa listed 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:44.520 as questionable, with safety Cavon Fraser and cornerback Byron Jones 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:48.080 listed as doubtful for the game on Sunday for visiting Seattle. 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:52.280 Three players listed as out on their Friday injury report here. 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.479 Safety Jamal Adams and cornerback Quentin Dunbar both will miss 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.960 the game, as will Seahawks first round draft pick linebacker 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.160 Jordan Brooks out of excess tech. And then there's a 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:04.440 few players on the questionable distinction. Running Back Chris Carson, 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:08.599 quarterbacks Shaquille Griffin, running back Carlos Hide, guard Damian Lewis, 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:13.080 cornerback Niko Thorpe, and safety Lano Hill are all questionable 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:15.880 for the game Sunday in Miami. And with that, let's 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.240 go ahead and get forward here into the Fins flashback 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:22.680 from twelve Dolphins and Seahawks with Anthony fasano enjoining the 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:26.560 Drivetime podcast now. Is a two time former Dolphin. He 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:28.720 was here for five years in his first stint from 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.520 twent from two thousand eight to two thousand twelve, and 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:33.760 he came back again in twenty seventeen for the last 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.560 season of his NFL career. He caught one hundred and 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:39.279 eighty nine passes for more than two hundred yards and 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.000 twenty four touchdowns as a member of the Dolphins. He 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:45.839 is Anthony Fossano, Anthony, how you doing man? Great, Travis, 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:47.960 thanks for having me. Yeah, we're happy to have you on. 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:51.880 And I always ask our flashback guests here on the podcast, 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.680 what's life like for Anthony Fossano today? You know, I 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.480 couldn't be happier. Um, you know, I was just starting 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:01.440 a family as as I was leaving football, and that 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.200 has grown. I have three children now. I still live 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:06.800 in Fort Lauderdale, so I love South Florida and still 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:11.279 follow the Dolphins and really consider myself a Dolphin and uh, 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:13.440 you know I do. I do some real estate stuff. 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:17.560 But I also um found my way into helping current 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:22.640 and recently retired athletes in the behavior health needs, transitioning 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:24.680 out of football and any kind of problems or experience 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.680 with a with a facility I'm involved with in in 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:31.200 Colorado called All Points North Lodge. That's really cool. You 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:32.599 can he tell us any more about that because that 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.880 sounds really noble. Yeah. Well, I had a family member, 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.640 like many of us, go through the addiction process and 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.760 the rehab process, and it was really my first taste 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:43.960 of it. You know, of a friend, a close friend 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.800 or loved the one going through it. Um, just picked 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:48.960 his brain, got to know him, I got to know 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.960 the situation, and he made it his purpose in life 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.719 to to work in the field afterwards. So I got 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.839 behind him. He built a team. We started a facility 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:01.000 down here in South Florida about six years ago, and 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.960 just over a year ago we merged with a bigger 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.920 facility that was up and coming in Colorado and took 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:10.360 our clinical staff out there. So UM, I was finally 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:14.120 able to serve the athletic community with a proper facility 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:18.640 and the needs today have UM in Colorado, and uh, 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.720 that's what I've kind of tradition transition to do well. 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.119 I love to hear that. I love hearing guys talk about, 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:26.480 you know, their their post playing career. You talked about 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.440 the Dolphins alumni a little bit there. It's such a 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.840 great program. We had Jed Weaver, another former Dolphins tight 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:33.800 end on the podcast a while back, and he too 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.960 lives here locally and does real estate also, so plenty 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:39.600 of good company there. You're in Anthony, and speaking of 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.160 good company before we get into this game, into this flashback, 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.040 you're a Jersey guy as well, and we have Dolphins 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:49.560 linebackers coach Anthony Campanelli on the Tuesday media availability and 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.640 somebody asked him about the best cold cut sandwich he 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.160 ever had, and Anthony went off, Man, you saw his 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.760 face light up. The jersey came right out of him, 0:07:57.920 --> 0:07:59.880 and it was such a great answer. He kind of 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.440 worked himself up and said, I'm mad now because i 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.600 want one of those cold cuts and I'm hungry. So 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.200 you have to tell us, Anthony, fellow Jersey guy, what's 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.280 the best cold cut or what are the best ingredients 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:13.000 to an essential cold cut sandwich? Yeah, it's it's it's 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:14.679 tough to come by in the rest of the country. 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:18.560 But honestly, besides the northeast South Florida is probably the 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:21.920 best I've had. It's kind of a lot of Northeasterners, 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:25.840 you know, transplant down here and small businesses follow him, 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.880 so we do get some good sandwiches. It's nothing like 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:32.640 the Northeast. Um, and I like, well, I go off 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.959 any diet. I can't eating sandwiches and pizza when I'm 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:40.760 up north, but um, down here, I mean quality of ingredients. 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:42.440 So if you if you're not going to have a 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:47.840 really um cured meat sandwich, I'm I'm a boar's head. 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:51.320 Guy um, so I got a boar's head and uh, 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:55.160 you know, Lispatas is always a great local favorite, super 0:08:55.160 --> 0:09:00.319 hardy stub. But for more of a curated so, I 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:03.199 would say there's a place in Fort Laudarel off Oakland 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:06.360 Park called Buffarella, and it doesn't have a ton of variety, 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.120 but the quality of the meats and cheeses and bread 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.880 is is unbelievable. Yeah, I haven't heard of that one, 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:13.600 but I was almost certain you were going to mention 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.000 the spots across the street here from the facility in 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.920 Davy every I'm pretty new to the area, Anthony. Everybody 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.120 tells me go get yourself a sub from the spot 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:22.439 of so I've done it a few times and it 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:24.960 definitely was up to the hype there. So as much 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.200 as we could talk about sandwiches all day here, and 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.520 I'll have you know I was a former Subway sandwich artist, 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:31.559 but I'm sure that's blasphemy to you to go to 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:35.400 Subway for an artist that's what they call very nice. 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.440 I can't stop laughing about that. We'll get out of 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.560 the food takes here and jump into this Dolphins and 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.640 Seahawks clash. I wanted to go a little more recent 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.960 because there are some players in that game. They're going 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:48.400 to be in this game as well as we play 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:51.440 the the Seahawks rather on Sunday at hard Rock Stadium. 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:53.640 And you were actually too and know against the Seahawks 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:56.679 in your career as a member of the Dolphins game 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.640 and the two thousand eight game, the year the Dolphins 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.680 won the FC East and the Wildcat season. But the 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:05.720 most unique aspect of this game, Anthony, was the fact 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:07.800 that the sprinklers came on towards the end of the 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:10.280 third quarter. How well do you remember that and kind 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:12.000 of thinking about what was going on in the field 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:15.560 that day. Yeah, I mean we spoke about this um 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:18.160 this video interview and I kind of had to go 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.240 back and jog my memory on some of it. But 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:24.400 that was a memory that that lasted. Um. Just kind 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.679 of funny, just typical, Um, you know, what the hell 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:31.760 is going on? Now? We always dealt with some some 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:35.200 adversity or some distraction and and I just you know, 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:38.320 piled on, but not not a huge deal for the 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.320 players wise. I got a little bit of a break, 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:44.080 but you know, I wasn't sure if it was transitioning 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:47.280 from the Marlins leaving and maybe it was on their 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:51.120 schedule or what it may be, but definitely kind of funny. 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:53.120 I think the announcers were saying that it was a 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:57.080 plot to slow Russell Wilson down and the momentum they 0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:00.400 were having in the second half. So um, just just 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:03.840 a funny memory, but not a huge impact. Yes, certainly 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:06.640 the Buffalo Wild Wings commercial from way back in the day. 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:08.640 Everyone wanted to hang out and get extra you know, 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:10.640 free football as they call it, and so they pull 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.240 the guy in to pull the sprinkles up out of 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:14.520 the ground and trip the player to cause the overtime. 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:16.679 I think they referenced that as well on the broadcast 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:18.680 a couple of times. So some good stuff there. Do 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:23.320 you remember any like players. Maybe Vegas had a play 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:26.320 and over and under in Jeopardy there in Vegas, puilled 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.480 the sprint Collers you wind up on Scott Van Pelt's 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.080 bad Beat section or her segment there on ESPN. Do 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.440 you remember any guys that were maybe like enjoying it 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:36.760 more than others, because I'm sure you know, even though 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:39.280 it was late November, I think it was. I mean, 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:41.199 you got to enjoy a little bit of a shower 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:42.880 when you get it in that South Florida heat right 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.400 for sure, And definitely the fatties were enjoying the break 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:49.480 um whether I don't know if it was in the 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.679 middle of a long drive, but the big guys definitely 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:57.360 were probably first to the sidelines and probably didn't avoid 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:01.200 the water that much. They probably welcomed it. So but 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:03.280 the skill, the skill guys trying to keep their hands dry, 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:06.000 I probably avoided it. Are you willing to attach any 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:12.920 names to the fatties designation there, Richie Cogna, Sure, I 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.680 would say Jake too. He's not He's not really a fatty, 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:20.400 He's just enormous. But uh yeah, Richie probably welcomed it. 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.720 You mentioned the broadcast talking about, you know, slowing down 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.360 Russell Wilson, and maybe that was you know, South Florida's 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:28.120 way of saying, we haven't had a lightning delay yet, 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:29.920 because we've had a couple of those last last few 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:33.040 seasons here in Miami. But does does that change the 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.040 playing surface at all? Even on the grass? Did that 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:39.520 make it wet and slippery? Not too bad and usually Florida, 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:41.920 I mean there's some moisture in the air, there's some 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:46.120 you know do um, so not too bad. There's really 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:49.000 good drainage, and you know it's usually warm drives up 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.120 pretty good. But yeah, definitely the first couple of plays 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:53.160 or you know, for the next couple of drives, you know, 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.400 putting your hand on the ground or you know, getting 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:58.520 a fall but not a huge impact. And you mentioned 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:00.920 the slowing Russell will us down and that was kind 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:02.560 of when the game started to shift a little bit. 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:05.440 I believe it was fourteen seven Seattle at that time. 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:07.640 The defense gets to stop, offense goes back down and 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:11.360 score and Charles Clay scored the game winning touchdown of 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:14.440 this game. And you guys really formed a good versa 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.240 little pair of tight ends. We talked about this off 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:18.400 air a little bit. Something we now have in the 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.160 current iteration of the Miami Dolphins with Durham Smith just 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.640 wiping out dudes in the running game, Mike get sicky 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.400 catching everything under the sun. How do you measure the 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:29.360 balance among tight ends with different scale sets, Like, I 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.560 want to know, does doesn't that physical, inline, classic y 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:34.800 tight end deserve some more credit, some more celebrity in 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:39.920 your opinion, you know, probably in the in the public size, 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.920 but really I think you know, it was a role 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:45.560 I was in and embraced my pretty much my whole career, 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.720 and um, you know, to me, I kind of liked 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.680 it because you flew under the radar, uh, and you 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.439 had the respect of your coaches and teammates for kind 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.480 of doing all the dirty work and really making plays 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.400 go um that that you know, not really called out 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:03.360 by the announcers. So I embraced it and love it. 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.720 I'm sure Smith is doing it good, Notre Dame guy, 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:10.640 And you know, it's fun to watch it, you know 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.240 every time, you know, every offense you know, utilize his 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.920 tight ends and the combination of them a little differently. 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:19.120 And I'm glad to see the current Dolphins are are 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.640 doing that. And it's super important. You still have to 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.720 be somewhat versatile, so you don't, you know, giving away 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.000 a package or runner or pass play and you got 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:30.160 to do some both. But yeah, Charles is a great person, 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.000 great player, uh. And we had a really fun year 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.160 that year. I was almost certain you're going to bring 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:37.400 up the Notre Dame connection there with Durham because you know, 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.200 you guys both just wipe guys out in the running 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.640 game down there as well. Always, I always appreciate watching 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:43.040 the you know, teams that can still run the ball 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.440 effectively in this modern day of of passing offense. But 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:49.720 speaking of celebrity and rushing the football, Reggie Bush had 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:51.640 a seven yards and touchdown on that game, and I 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:53.920 recall him kind of getting juiced up towards the end, 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:55.960 had some big runs and kind of got the offense 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.680 sparked there a little bit. There's got to be some 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.440 kind of story you can tell us about Reggie Bush's celebrity, 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:03.640 because you know, maybe it's giving him a hard time 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:05.920 in the locker room. What was it like playing with 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.360 a guy who, even though he had so much notoriety 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:10.760 Heisman Trophy, you know, is number two overall draft pick 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.680 on the football field, he had even more away from 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:15.920 the football field needed on it. Is there a good 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:19.200 Reggie Bus store you can tell us, Well, Reggie is 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:21.600 a great guy. We actually played against each other and 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.680 we're the same class. He played at USC you know, 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:25.160 is that Notre Dame. So we had a we had 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:28.800 a couple of great battles for our senior year out 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:32.280 there in South Bend, um so we got drafted in 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.360 the same class. Finally got um you know, met up 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.720 with the Dolphins, when he came over, and uh, he 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:43.680 was just unbelievable teammate, unbelievable player. And in that game specifically, 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:45.360 you know, I don't know if he had his stats 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:49.040 were super gaudy, but he was very opportunistic. You know, 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:53.200 he was getting third down, he had a nice touchdown run. Um. 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:55.400 So we did a lot more for that game and 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:59.080 helped our chances more than maybe the stat line shows. 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:03.040 But as far as far as his uh, his celebrity status, 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.000 I mean I think it was attributed probably to his 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:10.160 dating resume for a little while. Um, you know, just 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.640 being a good looking guy out in l A. And 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:16.160 and you know with the dating scene, that's what kicked 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.240 him off. And then uh, Reggie and I and you know, 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.640 a bunch of guys, um you know, at the right 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.240 right times went out and uh, you know, he just 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:28.000 he knew how to carry and uh, you know, he 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.120 deserves it all. Yeah. I was gonna ask you if 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.600 you guys ever had any keeping up with the Kardashian 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.360 watch parties or anything like that. Uh, I no, I 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.880 think we avoided those shows that that ship had sailed, 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:43.000 But I'm sure you had a bunch of quick um replacements. 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:47.040 Pretty soon after it's too good. So you know you 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.840 mentioned something there about the USC Notre Dame rivalry. I'll 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:52.480 give you an open forum here. The Bush push thoughts. 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:58.360 It's total bullshit, and uh it's pretty much the first 0:16:58.400 --> 0:16:59.760 thing I said to him when he came in a 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:04.400 lot room. Uh. So we'd go back and forth, and 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:08.040 he said, there's legit, and uh, you know I told 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.320 him that, Uh, you know, he needs to give me 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:15.000 his uh his national championship ring is because of because 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:18.000 of us. So there you go play some small part 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:19.320 in that. I suppose. That was a hell of a game. 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:21.200 I remember watching it, you know, all those years ago. 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:23.560 Was one of the best collegeotball games I've ever seen. 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:26.239 But going back to the Dolphins and Seahawks game, they 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.240 running back on the other side of the field. Leon 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.760 washington Man, he was a Dolphin killer for a long 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.080 time Jets and Seahawks. In this game, he took a 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.120 kickoff return back for a touchdown moments after the Dolphins 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:38.959 had tied the game on a Daniel Thomas touchdown plunge 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:41.240 the middle of the fourth quarter. What does that type 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.000 of a play do for your psyche, like you get 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.080 the play that kind of you know, gets the momentum 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.000 back on your side and the snap of a finger, 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:48.879 it's right back on the other side. Is that just 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:52.000 a total killer? Yeah. And even going back a couple 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:56.080 of plays before, Tannehill through an interception and it got 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:59.480 called back, uh for a rough in the passer I believe, 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.199 and we're able to get in close and punch it in. 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:05.160 So it was really a big swing from a turnover 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.320 to a touchdown. And then they answer right away with 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.200 a long kickoff return. So that second half was really 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:14.600 back and forth with a lot of momentum swings, and 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:18.400 you know, it's tough to overcome that, but it's also 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:22.240 nice being in your home stadium when when a game 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.719 goes like that. And also it's just really tough for 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.000 a West Coast team to travel all the way on 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.120 the East Coast and play play a day game. Uh, 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:32.000 you know, the time factor, either a day or two 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:35.919 before coming intown, it still makes a difference. So a 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.080 lot of things lined up in our favorite I'm glad 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:41.320 you mentioned the interception that got overturned because I think 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:44.359 it was Bobby Wagner that caught the interception and Earl 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:46.240 Thomas got hit for the flag. On a blow to 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:50.040 Tannehill's head, which the announcers were ambivalent about at best, 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:52.359 but in that game, so they took it off the board. 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:53.879 But I just went and looked at the box score. 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:56.880 Bobby Wagner still had a pick, nine tackles, two pass 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:59.560 breakups in that game. And he'll be out there this Sunday, 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.480 eight years after the fact. I'm asking I'm curious to 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:06.480 ask you, Anthony, when you watched him play immediately think 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:08.280 that was either his rookie year or his second year. 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:12.080 Did you see it like instantly with Bobby Wagner. Sure, 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:15.600 I mean it's it's rare that you circle a guy um, 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:17.919 you know in your meetings and practices leading up to 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:21.399 the game, who's so young. But he definitely got that 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:24.520 respect back then, and he's only continued that and it's 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:27.679 gotten better. Just a player that I think unanimously everyone 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:31.119 else respects um and the way he carries himself, the 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.520