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Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome back to the first episode of the

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Speaker 2: off season. Literally a day later after the season ends,

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Speaker 2: we got some big news. We can finally talk about it.

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Speaker 2: David Stearns officially the new president of Baseball Operations for

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Speaker 2: the New York Mets. Buck Show Walter out as the manager.

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Speaker 2: You guys heard us briefly talk about it yesterday, just

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Speaker 2: a quick minute, but we'll talk a little bit more

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Speaker 2: about it because we learned so much from the David

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Speaker 2: Sterns press conference. James was in attendance. The hard work

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Speaker 2: never stops, no days off. James sheiano professional journalist at

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Speaker 2: the press conference. Got a lot of notes for you guys,

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Speaker 2: got a lot of things to talk about. It's an

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Speaker 2: exciting day for a Mets fan. I know that doesn't

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Speaker 2: normally happen when the season ends, but there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of buzz, a lot of excitement. We're ready to talk

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Speaker 2: to you guys about it. We've been waiting for a minute,

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Speaker 2: We do appreciate you guys again. Off Seasons actually started

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Speaker 2: in James.

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Speaker 1: What do you got for me? Dude? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: This is a great day. I've been so excited by

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Speaker 1: this news, like I'm you guys know listening to this,

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Speaker 1: especially people who listened for a while, like back when

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Speaker 1: they were doing the search and a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: Mark and I went like Canada by candidate, getting everyone's

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Speaker 1: LinkedIn pages and all the information we could find in

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Speaker 1: every single guy. It's just baseball is such an executive

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Speaker 1: run game these days, and so much is about like

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Speaker 1: your internal processes and what you're able to do as

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Speaker 1: an organization from the top all the way to the bottom,

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Speaker 1: from the DSL all the way to the last member

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Speaker 1: of your bullpends, your closer to your shortstops, your triple

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Speaker 1: A roster, everything and just having someone like David Stearns

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Speaker 1: come in who won take away everything about his personality,

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Speaker 1: his childhood and his fandom, like he is so accomplished,

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Speaker 1: he is so successful and what he's done across the

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Speaker 1: Bajor League organizations. We have a huge David Stearns's history

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Speaker 1: to go through before I give you guys some press

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Speaker 1: conference notes too. It's just that alone, the baseball of

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Speaker 1: it is so uplifting and so refreshing and something that

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Speaker 1: I've again lifelong Mets fan. We've all been through the

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Speaker 1: ups and downs together listening to this podcast. It's our

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Speaker 1: lifetime with fandom. I've never felt like this for an

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Speaker 1: executive any team I've ever rooted for in my life,

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Speaker 1: not even just the Mets, where I'm just like, I

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Speaker 1: trust you so much and I can't I can't even

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Speaker 1: describe put in towards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we've been a little PTSD, I think

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Speaker 2: with sometimes some of the decisions that get made, especially

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Speaker 2: we go way way back with the Mets and just

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Speaker 2: some of the stuff that's gone on there. But to

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Speaker 2: bring in a guy like David Stearns, thirty eight years old,

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Speaker 2: Harvard grad, He's been around baseball pretty You usually don't

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Speaker 2: graduate Harvard and go like, I want to be in baseball.

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Speaker 2: I want I want to work in baseball. And he

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Speaker 2: worked at the I think he worked in Brooklyn right

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Speaker 2: have even interned there. I think we've heard a story

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Speaker 2: Just getting a really, really smart guy who's been around

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Speaker 1: As a Mets fan.

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Speaker 2: Like since Steve Cohen's gotten here or been here, he's

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Speaker 2: He wants someone to man this team, take over, run

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Speaker 2: it the way that it's gonna be, build sustainable success,

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Speaker 2: which is something that Stern's even talked about a lot

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Speaker 1: It's just it's it's a great day.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, normally we get really really excited for

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Speaker 2: because I think David Stearns, I mean, I think you

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Speaker 1: Mets future here, huge piece of the Mets future. And

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Speaker 1: in the past, and say he was just hanging out

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Speaker 1: And he was like, all right, I'll keep that one

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Speaker 1: Sturns also did work at the MLB office, and just

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Speaker 1: the big thing about Sterns again, it got hammered home.

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Speaker 1: A lot is that he is a lifelong Mets fan.

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Speaker 1: Like he is, he seems like, for lack of a

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Speaker 1: then we've heard a lot about the statement that David

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Speaker 1: Stearns released this morning through the Mets when we were

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Speaker 1: getting ready for the press conference, he said in a quote,

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Speaker 1: I grew up a Shay Stadium. And the other sound

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Speaker 1: he said he used to sneak into Shay Stadium. So

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Speaker 1: as a thirteen fourteen year old kid coming from Manhattan

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Speaker 1: them baseball. Also fun fact about David Searns birthdays are

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Speaker 2: Fun fact.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, another fun fact about David Sterns talked about the

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Speaker 2: Imagine that just like you, James. A lot of commonality

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Speaker 1: Our colleges are red based, right, same college scheme. He

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Speaker 1: And after those two he spent three years working at

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Speaker 1: So he saw like how the sausage got made from

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Speaker 1: And then right after that he was hired to twenty

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Speaker 1: was the assistant GM. Most organizations in baseball even still

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Speaker 1: Jeff Luna was really like cut to the chase, really

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Speaker 2: And at the time twenty fifteen, if I'm doing my

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Speaker 2: and the Astros GM's like, yeah, this guy's gonna be

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Speaker 1: Definitely, And even right after that, that was when the

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Speaker 2: Don't forget that.

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Speaker 1: Sterns actually had a very podcast too, yeah, and also

435
00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,600
Speaker 1: great official podcast. I probably one of the best that exists.

436
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Speaker 1: But there were just so many things that he said

437
00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,600
Speaker 1: today too, where it was like you could feel the

438
00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,840
Speaker 1: pride that he wasn't met like I never I never

439
00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,280
Speaker 1: thought I'd be. Like, first of all, I never thought

440
00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,600
Speaker 1: I'd be sitting at the press conference if anyone hired

441
00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:51,880
Speaker 1: by the Mets to be the president of the GM,

442
00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,600
Speaker 1: any of the stuff, the players last year, whatever, But

443
00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,160
Speaker 1: just like hearing him gush about the Mets and be

444
00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,200
Speaker 1: like this is it? Like this is what I want?

445
00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,800
Speaker 1: And also hear him talking about the resources. I got

446
00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,560
Speaker 1: a great quote here. I wrote down having resources definitely

447
00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,560
Speaker 1: the advantage. I'm excited we have the resources we do.

448
00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,000
Speaker 1: That's a good quote. I like that a lot. That's

449
00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,240
Speaker 1: really cool. He's like, yeah, it's gonna be awesome. Like

450
00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,160
Speaker 1: I just spent no money and now I can spend

451
00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,640
Speaker 1: a bunch of it. But I mean it's all gonna

452
00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,840
Speaker 1: be within reason, Like it's not probably gonna look like

453
00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,399
Speaker 1: it did the last few years, where it's just like,

454
00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,560
Speaker 1: let's get together. And Steve said that too. He's like,

455
00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,119
Speaker 1: and now I have someone new here to collaborate with.

456
00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,000
Speaker 1: I someone knew to talk about this value with. I

457
00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,760
Speaker 1: have someone to talk about the contracts with who I'm

458
00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,879
Speaker 1: giving autonomy to, like and we saw that again, this

459
00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,440
Speaker 1: was the first thing brought up in the press conference.

460
00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:30,800
Speaker 1: We didn't really get to talked about that with you

461
00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,520
Speaker 1: guys yesterday because the first time ever we record the

462
00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,240
Speaker 1: podcast early and then Buck Show Walter announces that he

463
00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,800
Speaker 1: will not be back with the team next year. But

464
00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,840
Speaker 1: like that was that's autonomy, Like this was Buck with

465
00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,679
Speaker 1: someone that Steve Cohen handpicked to come in here and

466
00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,280
Speaker 1: manage this team. And then if it wasn't the cards,

467
00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,879
Speaker 1: it wasn't in the cars and that was David. That

468
00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,680
Speaker 1: was it, Like, that's how it began, Like David Ston's

469
00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:49,960
Speaker 1: now we'll get to pick a manager for the first

470
00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,800
Speaker 1: time in his career because he also inherited the Great

471
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Speaker 1: Council and Council was in Milwaukee the whole time with him.

472
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was something he talked about a lot

473
00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,400
Speaker 2: too in the press conference, is that they are not

474
00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,119
Speaker 2: specifically looking for anything as a manager. They're gonna look

475
00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,400
Speaker 2: at first time guys. They're gonna look at guys with experience,

476
00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,280
Speaker 2: They're gonna look at young managers, old managers, guys who

477
00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,840
Speaker 2: have played baseball, guys who didn't play at the professional level.

478
00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:09,920
Speaker 1: Like He's like, we're.

479
00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,320
Speaker 2: Casting a very very wide net of what the possibilities

480
00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,840
Speaker 2: of managers can be. Got a lot of time before

481
00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,280
Speaker 2: the next season interview guys be very thorough, and I

482
00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,040
Speaker 2: think that's something that you're gonna get with David Surts.

483
00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,760
Speaker 2: It seems like there is there's a process something that

484
00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,800
Speaker 2: we've talked about so so much in the past.

485
00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,760
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, kill for a process, And.

486
00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,600
Speaker 2: It seems like he's gonna bring in a process that's

487
00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,280
Speaker 2: not only been successful, but will continue to be successful

488
00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,720
Speaker 2: and it starts with the manager, which I feel like

489
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Speaker 2: was probably the hot topic as well during this press

490
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Speaker 2: conference too.

491
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people were asking it a couple

492
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Speaker 1: of couple questions. Think Joel Sherman asked one I think

493
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Speaker 1: bruce Beck might have asked to to legends of legend.

494
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Speaker 1: Bruscepec's a legend, Bruce Becc's in New York City, legend

495
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Speaker 1: he got. He's got that great journalist change, He's got

496
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Speaker 1: great journalists, Harry, He's like, great, great journalist's name. Bruce

497
00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,680
Speaker 1: Beck Like, Oh, that's like wrong, that's like a journalist

498
00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,320
Speaker 1: a fake name. You in a book you're writing about

499
00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,000
Speaker 1: a journalist, Like it's like a fantasy novel.

500
00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,760
Speaker 2: Well, it's like it's I don't know, it's like almost

501
00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,280
Speaker 2: I know it's not like Superman Batman name, but like

502
00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,720
Speaker 2: it's kind of like the like the Yeah, bruce Beck,

503
00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,120
Speaker 2: like if that guy was a vigilante at night too

504
00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:06,919
Speaker 2: and prime, I believe.

505
00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,760
Speaker 1: It, Like he's a sports journalist in a comic strip.

506
00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,399
Speaker 1: Bruce Beck, Yeah, Like that's it. But Sterns again had

507
00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,480
Speaker 1: a great quote about the manager was looking forward to this.

508
00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,080
Speaker 1: He really really summed it up so well and summed

509
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,840
Speaker 1: up about how like the manager role is in modern baseball.

510
00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,439
Speaker 1: He just said, like, there's so much like on a

511
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,560
Speaker 1: manager like in modern baseball, and it's not exactly the

512
00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,480
Speaker 1: same way that we perceive them through baseball history, where

513
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,440
Speaker 1: it's kind of like they're the ambassador organization. But there's

514
00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,600
Speaker 1: just like you have to be in between so many

515
00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,520
Speaker 1: different departments, so many different things. And this again, this

516
00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,800
Speaker 1: quote stuck with me. If you to manager your position

517
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Speaker 1: as one of true partnership with the front office. I

518
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,840
Speaker 1: want them to be working closely with the baseball ops

519
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:43,359
Speaker 1: groups to manage people and facilitate culture and to grow

520
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,119
Speaker 1: with the team and stay here for a long time period.

521
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Speaker 1: That's cool. I was like everything he was saying, I

522
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,880
Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, yeah, more and more more, keep talking,

523
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,639
Speaker 1: keep talking, keep talking. You can want to end. You

524
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 1: guys don't understand how hyped James is for this.

525
00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,000
Speaker 2: Like let's peel let's peel back the curtain a little

526
00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,359
Speaker 2: bit here so you guys can get an insight. So

527
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Speaker 2: yesterday when this was like all happening or whatever, and

528
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,640
Speaker 2: the press conference was announced and everything, James was like

529
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,640
Speaker 2: asking everybody like how can I come?

530
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Speaker 1: Can I come? Can I go. He's looking at me.

531
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Speaker 2: He's like, you're not gonna go. I'm like, dude, I

532
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,120
Speaker 2: got like a big I got a big week ahead

533
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Speaker 2: of me. Like this is like one of my few

534
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 2: days where like I could like just sit at home

535
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 2: kind of plan get ready for this next week.

536
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Speaker 1: You're like, I can't believe you're not coming.

537
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 2: Like this is the most excited I've ever been to

538
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 2: go to a press conference ever.

539
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Speaker 1: I'm like, more than like when we Verlanders Sanga Shreser like,

540
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, I've never been more excited for anything,

541
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 1: And to be fair, it fits you perfectly. Like I mean,

542
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 1: you guys have heard some of the episodes that we've done,

543
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,159
Speaker 1: the amount of research that goes into just possible candidates

544
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,399
Speaker 1: for jobs that have been opened in the past, and

545
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,919
Speaker 1: nothing James loves more than a little polyside major who

546
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 1: found his way into baseball. Literally, this is my favorite

547
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 1: thing on Earth and just like talking to him. I

548
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,360
Speaker 1: talked to Will Salmon a little bit because Will used

549
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 1: to be the beat reddit for the Brewers for the

550
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,879
Speaker 1: Athletic before the Mets. I was like, you know, is

551
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 1: he like, is he good to talk to you guys?

552
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 1: And he was like he is great, Like he talks

553
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 1: to us, like he's just like listening to David Searn's talk,

554
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 1: I was like, this guy's freaking cool, like he's smart,

555
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 1: like he's exciting. I was like, God, he's a New Yorker.

556
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,199
Speaker 1: Like everything, it's all all goes so well together. Like

557
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,719
Speaker 1: even I took the seven train local seven train two

558
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 1: ways today. I our bail almost a full hour community

559
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 1: each direction. I was there for forty five minutes. I

560
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 1: think about that for a second. I almost finished my book,

561
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Speaker 1: Like it was great.

562
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's exciting times. Like there's just

563
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 2: a lot of really really good things happening. And going

564
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,160
Speaker 2: back to what you were saying about the manager thing,

565
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 2: like you said, like it's a collaborative effort, being very

566
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 2: very involved all things that are super important. And again,

567
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 2: you look at all these successful teams in baseball, maybe

568
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 2: outside of the Astros, maybe outside of the Astros with

569
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Speaker 2: Dusty Baker, but he's there for vibes.

570
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Speaker 1: He's vibes. That's it. And that was some of the

571
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Speaker 1: things that Stern's talked about, facilitating culture and managing people

572
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,959
Speaker 1: like that's a huge part of being the modern baseball manager.

573
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Speaker 1: And like maybe some of what's happened in baseball last

574
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Speaker 1: few years, like some of the game flow has been

575
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Speaker 1: taken out of the manager's hands. And whether you think

576
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 1: that's for better or for worse, it's just a simple

577
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 1: reality of how many of these organizations are run now.

578
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Speaker 1: And like it's like seems like he wants someone who's

579
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: basically going to be a partner like he And also

580
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 1: he said find the right person to grow with the

581
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 1: organization and be here for a long time. Yeah, So

582
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Speaker 1: like I'm sure this this higher Mike Skew Younger, I

583
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,159
Speaker 1: could q someone who's a first time manager. I know

584
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people get scared of that. Sometimes we've

585
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: got some PTSD in the past, but I don't think

586
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: it's necessarily a bad thing. A lot great Council was

587
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: the first time manager when he was hired by the Brewers.

588
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: Kevin Cash was the first time manager, and he was

589
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 1: hired by the race.

590
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 2: See Dave Roberts was the first time manager.

591
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, they these guys have been stalwarts over the last

592
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Speaker 1: few years.

593
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 2: I give I'm gonna give John's Marlins a little credit

594
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 2: here to skip Schumacher first time masag looks like.

595
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 1: A really good manager, Like The thing that we've.

596
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 2: Joked about is we're like we want Mets fans to

597
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 2: be a little upset, a little mad with whoever the

598
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 2: manager is, because like it doesn't the notoriety, the publicity, Like, Okay,

599
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 2: there's there's some guys out there that I'm sure that

600
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 2: have like a track record or a resume that is

601
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Speaker 2: very successful, and I wouldn't be opposed to bringing in

602
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: maybe a successful manager like that, Like I want I want,

603
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 2: I want championships, I want winners. I want someone who's

604
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 2: gonna come in here and wants to win, wants to

605
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Speaker 2: be a part of winning culture, been a part of

606
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Speaker 2: winning culture, even experience what it's like to win. And

607
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 2: it's just like, if it's a first time guy, I

608
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 2: promise you I will not be mad. I'm sure we'll

609
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 2: talk a lot more about who the possible candidates could

610
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 2: be whenever the rooms and everything started breaking like later

611
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 2: on the year. But it's just like getting the right

612
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 2: guy in is super important, and it's it's nice to

613
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 2: see that he placed. I don't want to say emphasis,

614
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: but the way that he described what he was looking

615
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 2: for is a very refreshing.

616
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Speaker 1: Take refreshing and incredibly modern, like that is what that

617
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: is what like the well run organizations like to feel.

618
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: And I think emphasis is a good word because this

619
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Speaker 1: is an important decision. Someone's gonna like be interacting with

620
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Speaker 1: the players on this team every single day and the

621
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Speaker 1: team has aspirations to uh compete. Because that's another thing

622
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Speaker 1: that David Stearns mentioned directly that he wasn't going to

623
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Speaker 1: mortgage the future. He was very specific about that. It

624
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: was gonna be a delicate balance, but he said that

625
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Speaker 1: this team, the idea concept, the idea is that they're

626
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Speaker 1: going to be ready to go. Twenty twenty four is

627
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: gonna a year where Mets will compete. And that's something

628
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: that has been talked about a lot because of the

629
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Speaker 1: max sharers are quote from the trade deadline and it

630
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Speaker 1: just way other some media atolts have handled it the

631
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: last few months. But he was very contrite. There's going

632
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Speaker 1: to be a team that we expect to compete. He says.

633
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Speaker 1: Probably again, I want to find the exact word because

634
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: he use I have some as a quote in here,

635
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: but okay, hear this. The goals compete right now and

636
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 1: do it in a way where it won't detract from

637
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: our competitiveness in future years. Yep, and that great. So

638
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: I means I want to win now and then I

639
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: want to win later. Another part about that winning now

640
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: and winning later. As he said, very very simply, he

641
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: expects Pete Longs will be the first baseman of the

642
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: team in twenty twenty four. Yeah, that's to be said.

643
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: That's the red quode. There's no we're not reading it

644
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: to anything here. There's no insight from ACHRE's no insight.

645
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: That's what David Stern said publicly to the media, to

646
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Speaker 1: the media. Everyone heard it the media in May a

647
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Speaker 1: few hours ago. That's yeah. I mean, I'd love Pete

648
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Speaker 1: to still be here. He's the man. I love Pete.

649
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 2: I mean forty six home runs and what people are

650
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: calling like Pete's worst year since he's been in the majors.

651
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 2: This is his worst year at forty six home runs,

652
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: drove in what like one hundred and twenty.

653
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he struck out too much. Oh, don't care.

654
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 2: Don't care that he hit two twenty non important. Forty

655
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 2: six and twenty RBIs one of the best first basemen

656
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Speaker 2: in the game.

657
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Speaker 1: I don't even think he struck out that much. I'm

658
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: guess final season strikeout total right here. Also, if you

659
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: go in Baseball Savanna right now, it still has the

660
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Speaker 1: Mets Marlins game from last week on the top of

661
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Speaker 1: the ninth.

662
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: Oh wait to hear something funny. I'm just like going

663
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Speaker 2: through the playoff teams because that's kind of where my

664
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: head's been a little bit. And we'll talk more about

665
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 2: it later. Baltimore Brandon Hyde, first time manager. Yeah, Kevin Cash,

666
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: tim ber Ray's first time manager, yep. Blue Jays, who's

667
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: their guy, John Schneider, right, I think, yeah, first time manager, yeah,

668
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 2: Minnesota Twins, Rockleball Deli, Yeah, first time manager. All right,

669
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: Dusty's not Bruce Bochi's not Al West. They're they're different.

670
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 2: They're different, but they got some young gms in there.

671
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 2: They got some young smart guys running that organization. Atlanta

672
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 2: Braves Brian Snicker. He was a first time manager technically.

673
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: Technically he was Phillies Rob Thompson first time manager, first

674
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Speaker 1: time manager, Marlon skip Schumacher, first time manager, Milwaukee first

675
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: time manager.

676
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 2: Dodgers. I don't know about Tory Leavello. Honestly, I don't

677
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 2: know about him. I'm gonna I'm gonna check this one.

678
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: I I wouldn't be surprised if he's snuck in somewhere

679
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: like as a as an interim one day. Let's see,

680
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna click is that's that's not the manager page.

681
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: Come on, we're watching this good podcasting, but yeah, keep

682
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 2: looking up your stuff. He was he was first time manager,

683
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: Tory Levello.

684
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: So that's so whole postseason field. Only two prior managers,

685
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: and one of them is a multiple time World Cities champion.

686
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 1: One just got his first yes, uh success, So it's

687
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: actual kind of funny. They're all first time managers and

688
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: two other guys who've been in baseball for upwards of

689
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: forty years. Yeah, but you know what they've done. They've

690
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: won one they've won.

691
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: So that's a little that's why you can do that

692
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 2: when you're a little bit older.

693
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: But like, just I love it.

694
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: I'm excited. I'm super excited about David Surtins. I I'm

695
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,239
Speaker 2: feeling a little bit like you were yesterday because now

696
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: that I've I've seen him talk, I've heard him say

697
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 2: the words, and I'm like, ah, we got him, let's go.

698
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: We've wanted him forever, dude. There was such a buzz

699
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: in that room too. You could feel like something important

700
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: was going on, like Decomo and Gelb's wearing suits, Like

701
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: Hayman was out over there like he was being funny

702
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: having questions. There was nice spread you know out like

703
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: you know just in the media stuff, and it's just

704
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: like of camera people, lots of flashing lights like it was.

705
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: It was a buzz, like you could really feel like

706
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: an energy in that room. Like this is why I

707
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 1: was so excited yesterday where I was just like, this

708
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: is happening, Like this is someone who like for years

709
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: I've been like that he is the guy. He is

710
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: the perfect one, Like he is the one like listening

711
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: to him talk about growing up a Mets fans, like what.

712
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: When we first started the podcast, I think we talked

713
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 2: about guys that we wanted to and I think David

714
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: Stearns was. I think we were like, David Stearns is

715
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: the guy we want, we need him here, we want

716
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: him here. He's a Mets guy, He's got to be here.

717
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: And now that he's come and he's here and he's

718
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 2: part of the organization, right he's running the whole show.

719
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 2: I mean, feels pretty good.

720
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: Feels pretty good.

721
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: Shout out to Mets up in twenty twenty one.

722
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, legendary times. But some other notes about thinks Stern,

723
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: David said, Starwich, David Stearns, I want to call him

724
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: David Sterns, David Searns and David Stearns and mister yeah,

725
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: mister president of baseball ops pop popo, yeah, Hobo pobo.

726
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: But something that Steve saysay he did a lot of

727
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: due diligence on him, of course, and he said that

728
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: the biggest thing that stuck out was that everyone who

729
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: worked under him had incredible things to say that he

730
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: was just a wonderful boss, very collaborative, very open minded.

731
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 1: That's huge to me because there's gonna be a big

732
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: team of people on. Something else that came up a

733
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: lot is that there are people here from lots of

734
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: differ regimes. People who have been here for a long time,

735
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: people have not been here for a long time, people

736
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: who are hired by very different people who were either

737
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: here or not anymore. And Stern's had a very good

738
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: answer when I asked that. He said that I don't

739
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: think is exact quote. I don't. I think that's a

740
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: feature and not a bug, because when you have people

741
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: coming from all these different walks of life. You just

742
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: have different voices in the room. It seems like he

743
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: is very collaborative and very very open minded, and he

744
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: said that where's it quote. He wants to build groups

745
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: of really talented people at all levels of the organization

746
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: who are energized to come to work every day and

747
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: genuinely love working with each other. And I'm sure many

748
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: of those people are already here. I tell you he's

749
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: got two of them right here.

750
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: Anything they need, anything they need besides the podcast, I mean,

751
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: just happy to be podcasting.

752
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: You got anything else for us? Let us know. I'm

753
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: energized and I'm motivated. I'm all both of those things.

754
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm really that right now. He also this one killed

755
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: me as we started with. First of all, he gave

756
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: Steven Alex a lot of thanks, talking about how great

757
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: the process has been getting to know them and working

758
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: with them so far, Excited to keep doing that. Talked

759
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: about the impact the Mets have in the local community,

760
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: which I think is really cool and really true. I

761
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: don't think that there are many teams in baseball who

762
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: are in as urban of an area city field and

763
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: have like as much of that, like their local flavor here,

764
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: like you could just feel queens that every time you

765
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: go to the ballpark, and that's very apparent thing. But

766
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: he said, this one killed me. One might kill you too. Okay,

767
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: it's really cool. And now my kids grew up, can

768
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: cor up to be Mets fans. That's amazing, that's so relatable.

769
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's amazing. And Steve said there wasn't

770
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: really serious conversation with anybody else because once negotiations began,

771
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: it seemed like they were both in the same page.

772
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: He said. They both said they'd be really happy to

773
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: get to know each other. They were like a little

774
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: they were joking, they were a little smiling with each

775
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: other a little bit. Called them dynamic duo and that stuff.

776
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: Twhether it's just they say, he said, expects to be

777
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: here for a long time. Staring said, he expects to

778
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: be here for a long time. Like I I don't know,

779
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: we're Mets fans. Are sound like famous last words. But

780
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: for some for some reason, it's just something in my soul,

781
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: in my chest right now, my plumps like something feels different.

782
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: It's just dues. I'll tell you this.

783
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: I mean, yesterday was a weird day. Yesterday, end of

784
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: the season, bad season. I think we can say that,

785
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: but today sun Son was out beautiful seventy five degrees,

786
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: got a new president of baseball operations. There's as weird

787
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: as twenty twenty three has been. Now it's onto twenty

788
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: twenty four. It's on the bigger and better things. Future

789
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: is the focus, and I'm super excited to see what

790
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: the Mets future looks like with David Stearns at the

791
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 2: Helm calling the shots.

792
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Speaker 1: Here's another great quote he said. He said, I'm a fan.

793
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: I've been a fan just like you guys. I know

794
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: how much as team means to the fans of the community.

795
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: I've also ridden the roller coaster of disappointment and hope. Literally.

796
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 2: We talked about that when we were talking to Felix

797
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 2: Itzy for the London series stuff that's gonna be coming

798
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: out in a little bit. That's one of the they're

799
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,959
Speaker 2: like explaining being a Mets furner, like it's a roller coaster, man,

800
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: Like it's the hot, the highs are so high and

801
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 2: the lows are about as low as you could possibly get,

802
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: but when it hits, oh my god, it's incredible.

803
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: To another one that proved how much of a Mets

804
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: fans David searins Is and I tweeted this one. He

805
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: shouted out Eddie Coleman, and it's Eddie Coleman's a legend,

806
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: a legend Ville Radio. He said, I grew up listening

807
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: to Gary Cohen, Bob Murphy and Eddie Coleman. I was like,

808
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: damn right, you have love Eddie Coleman. I love Eddie Coleman.

809
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: I was I think coman almost stars struck me the

810
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: first time I saw him, like back in like the

811
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: press room. I think, yeah, Like I was just like,

812
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that com and You're like, what what

813
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: do you mean? But just he's he's like he's so real.

814
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: He say he doesn't take the opportunity lightly. He shouted

815
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: out Omar for hiring way back. Why told him a

816
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: lot about like a lot of things he's taking with

817
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: him his whole career. He just said, like working for

818
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: so many different people in organizations, Like he thought that

819
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: was such a benefit to what he's able, like how

820
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: he's able to learn and grow as an executive, Like

821
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: there was so much good stuff like And he also

822
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: said like he was so excited by this. I think

823
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: Tacoma was like when did this start to feel real.

824
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: He was like, not till it was officials official is

825
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: not really that's a Met fan at heart right theread

826
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: of myself here, and he was like, I had to

827
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: stay balanced because this was just like this was so

828
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: important to me that they didn't take the opportunity lightly,

829
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: just like just like one of us.

830
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: You know, New York guys graduated from college likes baseball

831
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: and the Mets just like us. Definitely not a difference

832
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: in anything else, No, for.

833
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, I fixed that. Maybe his brain power and

834
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: his h his mastery of like things like Python are

835
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: and Excel, like that's probably on the data systems that

836
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: are going to be applied to that with which I'm

837
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: very excited about.

838
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: Probably knows his way around a computer real well.

839
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: You probably do things with a keyboard that would make

840
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: our head spin.

841
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: They have you seen have you ever seen the like

842
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: Excel speed runs on like TikTok or Instagram.

843
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: No, but our old room at alex I've seen him

844
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: do it. But it's crazy, like this is a thing.

845
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: There's competitive Excel where people it's like, do this as

846
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: fast as possible.

847
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: I've watched it.

848
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't I don't even understand what's

849
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: going on here, Like there's buttons that do this unlocking it.

850
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: I mean, it's got ahead of ourselves here. But yeah,

851
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: we're just excited.

852
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: We're happy.

853
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: I didn't expect on October second to be excited about

854
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 2: the Mets season being over, but a lot good things

855
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: have happened.

856
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm giddy. It was amazing. I just I can't believe

857
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: he was just talking like that, Like every single word

858
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: that was just like I trust you, I trust you,

859
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: I trust you, I trust you, I trust We're talking

860
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: about in the office. After I went up to hang

861
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: out John for Lobo was talking to Jenna Brian and

862
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: it was just like like every everything he said, I

863
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, like yeah, yeah, keep keep talking.

864
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: Like he just felt so smart, felt so like comfortable

865
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: and normal, like everything just felt. He also talk about

866
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: like having good relationship with Billy already. He said, like

867
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, we've been competitors. I respect him a lot.

868
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: We're done in the game, which is pretty cool. Honestly,

869
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: he and Zasmer are sitting in the front and there's

870
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: just there's definitely allow the work to be done. He

871
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: didn't take that lightly, and there's definitely no secret sauce.

872
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: It's not gonna look like the Brewers, but he's he

873
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: seems very motivated and very ready to get back to work,

874
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: and also just kind of also took a year, not

875
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: off because he was still an advisory role with the Brewers,

876
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: but definitely step back, he said. He talked about reflecting

877
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: over the last year, spending more time with his family,

878
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: like understanding where he wanted to go next in his life,

879
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: in his baseball journey, and just he seems very grounded.

880
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: He seems very very very excited, and very ready and

881
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: very shout out.

882
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: Billy also put put him in a pretty good spot

883
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: right now, like there's a great core, there's a great

884
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: farm system, one of the budding farm systems right now

885
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball. It's a good spot to come into,

886
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: and Billy definitely helped with that this year, getting rid

887
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: of Verlanders, sheer's a getting rid of guys and bringing

888
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: in these young young talent. Got a great prospect from

889
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,239
Speaker 2: the Marlins for David Robertson. He's a free agent at

890
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: the end of the year. Guy might not even be

891
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 2: in Miami anymore. We might not been in New York.

892
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: Like put him in a very good spot to now

893
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: build this team to become hopefully a championship competitor, win

894
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: some championships here.

895
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: There's so many, so many great things that are happening.

896
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: And also like they did talk a little bit about

897
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: the Buck situation too, and how like how it was

898
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: just felt a little weird, like the timing of it all,

899
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: you know, especially for the podcasters. I'm sure that Steve

900
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: is very uh you know, yeah, very apologetic to the

901
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: team's official podcast. But the fact that he just had

902
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: was literally a tight window, like we knew we had

903
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: to do this today because they didn't want to go

904
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: against the playoffs starting on Tuesday, and so it was

905
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: like it just had to happen, like it just that

906
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: it was unfortunate the way it went down. Certain said

907
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: there was no will will They talked this morning just

908
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: about He said the team is in a much better

909
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: place for Buck having been here, and I agree with him.

910
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean, Buck brought a lot of great

911
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 2: things to the table, had a great season in twenty

912
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: twenty two, There's no doubt about it.

913
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: It's great with the media, gree with the fans.

914
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: I mean, Francisco Lindora loves him like he was very

915
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: you saw the players, players are getting emotional yesterday.

916
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: Like for his last game.

917
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: Him and Lindora was like, yeah, yeah, like whatever you

918
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 2: your personal opinion is on Buck, how his job was whatever.

919
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: I think you can definitely that he made an impact

920
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 2: on the players, on the team, on the culture moving forward,

921
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 2: and you know, wish the best for Bucking. He said

922
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 2: he's not done yet, if he's ready to keep managing,

923
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: so maybe we'll go up against some suit one day.

924
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, just so many things, so many things are happening,

925
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: so many things have happened, Like it's just I just

926
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: I can't even understand how different this feels, like, I

927
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: don't know, Like he's talking about the Mets and he's

928
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 1: like the Pride.

929
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: I'm just like, yes, shout out to Ernie. Shout out

930
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 2: to Ernie. Ernie our friend a video of him denouncing

931
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: being in a face. He still likes the Mets, he

932
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 2: can still root for them. He's still gonna get tickets,

933
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: he's still gonna come and cheer. But he's like he

934
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: is a Marlins fan at heart, and that's huge for us,

935
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: you guys know. Or he's been a little bit of

936
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: the mush, a little bit of the Jinks. We love you, Ernie,

937
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: but you switching back to the Marlins.

938
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: Huge stuff.

939
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: Well, get David Surtins right in like two days later.

940
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it, and we're we're all here. We gotta

941
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: devastat said, we've got to create their own blueprint here,

942
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: and that's what we're gonna do.

943
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 2: Yep. Now, just some other little housekeeping things. Of course,

944
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: the wild Card Series is about to start, and even

945
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: though the Mets are not in, I think we're still

946
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 2: just gonna briefly talk about it a little bit. There's

947
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: song really great Matt trying to currently figure out what

948
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: games I'm gonna go to because I'm gonna be flying

949
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: out Tuesday, Wednesday, maybe even Thursday if there's game threes

950
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: for some of them. But you're looking at the matchups

951
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: right now of the Brewers going up against the Diamondbacks,

952
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: you got the Phillies going up against the Marlins in

953
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: the National League, and then the American League you got

954
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: the Rays versus the Rangers, and the Twins versus the

955
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: Blue Jays. I mean, we want to do predictions. You

956
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: want to start it off maybe with yours.

957
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not to talk about too even just talk

958
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: about the tenor of all these series as a whole,

959
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: because I think it's very funny to look at all

960
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: games will be starting, all series will be starting Tuesday,

961
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: play Wednesday and Thursday if they need game three. And

962
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: the cities that these are taking place in Tampa Bay,

963
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: Minnesota and Milwaukee, Philadelphia. I mean it's for content creator,

964
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: like you like, that's a real you know, murderers row

965
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: for for content creation in terms of you know, big

966
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: beautiful cities in America. But tickets for Tampa Bay cheapest

967
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: ticket to getting out of twenty six dollars, Well, Minnesota

968
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: cheapest ticke again into the Minnesota game Tuesday afternoon, four dollars.

969
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: Book it.

970
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: I'm in, let's go to Minnesota, Milwaukee Brewers cheapest ticket

971
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: twenty dollars, Philadelphi, Phillies one hundred sixty six. That one

972
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: makes sense, yes, but I think it's crazy think about that,

973
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 2: Like these are the markets that are in the playoff

974
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: right now.

975
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: It's funny to see the reflection of these prices. And

976
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: you remember the Mets last year, that was a that

977
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: was mayhem. Those three Padres games, that was some of

978
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: the most I've ever had a baseball game my life.

979
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: That game too. Game one three alo quite the opposite.

980
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 2: Some of the least three I love.

981
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: I'd love to forget those I have, they're out of

982
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: my mind. But I do think that as the American

983
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: League especially, I think the series are a little bit

984
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: less straightforward, maybe in a way because I just think

985
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: I think the market series is Wildcard rounds of Blue

986
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 1: Jays and the Twins. I think those are two teams

987
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: with good rosters with holes. It probably has the most

988
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: star power of any of these series. I think, Weirdly enough,

989
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: you don't think I think.

990
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: I think just simply the Phillies having Bryce Harper is

991
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: just yes, that's the That's the biggest star in the

992
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: entire wild Card round.

993
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: That's and then they got the primetime game two eight o'clock.

994
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: I mean, that's sure.

995
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: That tells you everything you need to know. Yes, playing

996
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: against the Marlins who have the dearth of star power,

997
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: but they're also they're also they can Weirdly, they can

998
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: really just win a series because they I don't know,

999
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: the Phillies. The Phillies have weird. The Phillies thing is

1000
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: weird to me right now, because when you have such

1001
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: magical run one year, it's so hard to just what

1002
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: huge news actually breaking news right now.

1003
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: Brandon Woodruff out for the wild Card Series shoulder capsule injury.

1004
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 2: He's available for the postseason. His availability for the postseason

1005
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: up in the air at this point. Com changes my prediction.

1006
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: I think right now, Oh.

1007
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a oh well, he's been their best picture

1008
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: by far for the last couple of months as he

1009
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: came back from injury.

1010
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: That's huge today for tough day for the Brewers.

1011
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: Tough day for the Brewers. Real shame. I would hate

1012
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: to be a Brewer. But I don't know if we're

1013
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: going to just do general predictions. Like raised Rangers, I

1014
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: feel like the Rangers have lost all their juju and

1015
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: the Rays are so good that everything the Rangers are not,

1016
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: which is just basically Bullpen and Lake kind of late

1017
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: game decision making. I really just I think that the

1018
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: organization has gone through so much of this year and

1019
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: they've been so good at home, especially that they I

1020
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: like them to move on, especially because it's Rangers core.

1021
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: Like Semi and the Seger have been in a playoff series,

1022
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: but none of these other guys have really done it.

1023
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: Montgomery has, but I don't think he's ever you know,

1024
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: like he's he's gonna be a game one start, Like

1025
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, It's it's tough because, like especially, I

1026
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: feel like in this wild Card series, pitching is so

1027
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: so important, Like just even keeping the game close, as

1028
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: we saw last year, can completely change the entire outlook

1029
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: of this game. Like being able to keep that game

1030
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: close is important, And I think the Rays will be

1031
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: able to keep these games close, like regardless, as soon

1032
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: as they get into trouble, who's next, They're gonna bring

1033
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: in the next guy.

1034
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: And I'm kind of with you. I was feeling the Rangers.

1035
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm definitely rooting for them to do well

1036
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 2: because I like a lot of the players on their team.

1037
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm most definitely rooting for the Rangers for sure.

1038
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that we both have a seting.

1039
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 2: You just don't don't doubt the Rays. You can't doubt

1040
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 2: the Rays. I might not pick them to go far,

1041
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: but I do think that they're gonna win this series.

1042
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: They're both in just incredible and it's the Rays. They

1043
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 2: just got some weird magic. Just it's gonna be tough

1044
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 2: to beat them. But yeah, that's a good series.

1045
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: They certainly underwhelm the last year in the series against

1046
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: the Guardians, they look they just couldn't score a run.

1047
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: And it's funny that this in a roundabout way, the

1048
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: Rays having one of the best offensive stretches major League

1049
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: history of stars season and then they now came up

1050
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: upon the end of the year and they're back to

1051
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: be in great bullpen and offense. That kind of scuffles

1052
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: a little bit. But I think right now it's kind

1053
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: of went under the radar because he didn't start the season.

1054
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: But Tyler Glass now is might be the best pitcher

1055
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: pitching right now. As something I can say if you

1056
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: look at the last like six months, like what he's

1057
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: been able to do in that six months, six weeks,

1058
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: like he's been clearly untouchable last time I think one

1059
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: startling once he was against the Yankees of the Red

1060
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: Sox last week or the week before. It's just he's

1061
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: he's been unstoppable. The Rangers starting pitching depthson issue. Their

1062
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: bullpen's a huge issue. They blow saves left and right.

1063
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: We saw many of them over the like over the

1064
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,959
Speaker 1: last couple of months. Jor Montgomery is a great pitcher.

1065
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: He probably got them to the playoffs, but as a

1066
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: game one starter in Tampa Bay. That's a little worrisome actually,

1067
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: because they they platoon and they'll just fill that that

1068
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: line of crushes lefties. I think as well, Yeah, it

1069
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: seems great as pravious right now, he's his man on

1070
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: fire Yondy Diaz.

1071
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: Highest batting average in the American League, not a batting

1072
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 2: average podcast.

1073
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah three thirty, who was shocking to have batting average?

1074
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: And then oh but I keep coming back to his

1075
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: twins blue Jay. Seriously, I just think that's the most

1076
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: It might be the most star power. You'd probably are

1077
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: right just about having brecet Hart, but that's the most funy.

1078
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: I agree.

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00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: I like that's the Minnesota especially four dollar tickets. I mean,

1080
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: that's when I've got circled. Never been to the Great North,

1081
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: but Minnesota is like they are such a such a

1082
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 2: weird team because they have all the makings of a

1083
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: team that could, like sneaky put together a run. Like

1084
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: they've got great starting pitching, great bullpen, and they've got

1085
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 2: home run power in that lineup. But what scares me

1086
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: always with the Twins is that something happens when they

1087
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: get to the postseason. I don't know if the lights

1088
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: are too bright or if they just are choker like

1089
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know if it's rockaball Deli,

1090
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: but they just they don't ever seem to push through.

1091
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: Granted they don't have to play the Yankees huge, plus

1092
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: they can't beat that team in the playoffs.

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00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: They never will.

1094
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 2: The Blue Jays also kind of have a little bit

1095
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: of choke in them as well, just kind of a

1096
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 2: little bit of like when are you gonna really push

1097
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 2: through and actually be good? Like you have all this talent,

1098
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: When's it gonna happen?

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00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 1: That's what I was kind of getting at with this series.

1100
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: Why it's so fun? This is like the unstopped beforece

1101
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: me to see a moveable object where it's like why who?

1102
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: Like who? Someone has to win this series? Like someone

1103
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: has to. And the Blue Jays are lined up really

1104
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: well right now, having pinched in the second last day

1105
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: of the year, Wherekevin Gousman is ready for Game one,

1106
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: and then they kind of haven't decided yet because Cocuchi

1107
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: pitch Friday, basket pitched last Thursday. Who is going to

1108
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: start that Game two? And it's probably gonna be one

1109
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: of them. I think the Blue Jays are also behind Gousman.

1110
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: It's kind of interesting they have. They have one of

1111
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: the sturdiest rotations baseball this year. I think they're the

1112
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: only team to have four pitchers pitch one hundred and

1113
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: fifty plus innings. I'm pretty sure I saw that. But

1114
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: it's also the fact that like Coucci Brios, all very

1115
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: good pitchers, but like, can one of those guys be

1116
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: a stopper behind Gosman, Can someone else go out win

1117
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: a game? Because like Twins Pabo Lopez fantastic, one of

1118
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: the most underrated pitchers in baseball, and Sonny Gray is

1119
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: also awesome. But again like that, like, while those two

1120
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: guys are both below Gousman, I think those guys are

1121
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: both above Kakuchi and Basstt as well and Burrios, So

1122
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: I think that is kind of the advantage there. Even

1123
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: though the Blue Jay has been weird offensive team this year,

1124
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: the Twins have gone hon cold. We will know about

1125
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: Royce Lewis. That's the funds that like that seriously just

1126
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: loses the most fun. The Diamondbacks gave up some of

1127
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: these resources over the weekends to reach the playoffs, and

1128
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,479
Speaker 1: now they're gonna have Brandon Fott pitching in Milwaukee against

1129
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: Corbyn Burne, which that's great for Brandon Fott. He's had

1130
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: a great second half after an abysmal first half. He

1131
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: kind of made a little onmound adjustment and now cut

1132
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: off his fastball kind of works off better. It's both

1133
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: righty's un lefties, but no wardrop helps them out of

1134
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: locks and you can get a gallon against I guess

1135
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: they'll be fare they Prawlton game too. Still great, but

1136
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: that's right, Yeah, yeah, that's all. He's a fun He's

1137
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: are fun. I can't wait for next week too. Yes,

1138
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 1: So you're going twins Blue Jays, then twins Blue Jays.

1139
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: I got something something nice. Some of my stones is

1140
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: telling me the Blue Jays.

1141
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, I'm going twins. I'm going twins on this one.

1142
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: I so you mentioned that said about the four inning

1143
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 2: or four pitchers with one hundred and fifty or more innings,

1144
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 2: twins were unbelievably close. But because they said Bailey obra

1145
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 2: down to maybe limit his innings, it might have seemed

1146
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: like a little bit. He got to one forty four

1147
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 2: otherwise have had four.

1148
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: Nice essentially all right, So two teams and those two

1149
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: teams kind of feel like litt similar in a way

1150
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: to where it's like they do big, big power in

1151
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 1: the lineup, line kind of falls off and then like bullpen,

1152
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: like Twin the Twins Bullpen. I'm excited to see what

1153
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to do in the small sample size.

1154
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: Kind of put them on the map a little bit.

1155
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: Kid deal bar Griffin Jackson, the Alray looks at looks

1156
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: not so good. John Durant's been hit, ran Jon Durantz

1157
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: like he people seeing Joan Durram pitcherre gonna seehi pitch

1158
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: be like what is this? Like this guy, if people

1159
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: haven't seen the splinker and you see the splinker, you're

1160
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh, how that happened? That's all right.

1161
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: So you've got the Rays and the Blue Jays moving

1162
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 2: on in the American League. I've got Raised and Twins.

1163
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: I like that.

1164
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: I like that we're not picking all the same teams

1165
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: and moving on to the National League. Now, you talked

1166
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: about Brewers, Dimonbacks.

1167
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: A little bit. You got there.

1168
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 2: Give me the d Backs.

1169
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: I fun with Woodroff getting hurt.

1170
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was kind of feeling the d Backs a

1171
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 2: little bit before because I was like, they're fun and

1172
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: sometimes like you need a little chaos, you need a

1173
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: little bit of chaos. Oh do I want to take

1174
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: the Dimonbacks. I think I'm gonna be rooting for the Diamondbacks,

1175
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 2: that's for sure. I just Corbyn Carroll is awesome. Christian

1176
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: Walker South Carolina game Cock could tell Marte stud so jacked.

1177
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 2: That guy so strong, he's incredible. Just a good team,

1178
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: good fun team. Jordan Laller two. Maybe get a little

1179
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: action in the postseason here. Yeah, I'm gonna go dime

1180
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: Backs too. I'm gonna go dimebacks to. That might be

1181
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: more of a I'm rooting for pick rather than what

1182
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: I truly believe. But if Woodroff was healthy, no no chance.

1183
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: I think Brewers take the season.

1184
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: I think so too. The only thing that was caring

1185
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: about the Diamondbacks that they have had major ebbs and

1186
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: flows with their offense over the course of the season,

1187
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: and their last five games played here they lost four

1188
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: of them for in rows end the season, which is great.

1189
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: They still made the playoffs because they went a huge

1190
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: winning streak right before that where they just dismantled the

1191
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 1: Cubs over a two week stretch, scored one run, zero runs,

1192
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: one run one run, three runs in their last five

1193
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: regular season games.

1194
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: I'm going back Brewers.

1195
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: Then go back to the Brewers.

1196
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: I'm back Brewers.

1197
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: I think I think, I think there's something about switch

1198
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: flipping in the postseason a little bit, but I still

1199
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 1: I don't know. Losing like your superstar pitcher and postseason eve,

1200
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: it's probably a little cup punch, but experience manager probably

1201
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: probably get through if anyone can.

1202
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 2: But I like that.

1203
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: And then I just I think I think both of

1204
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: us probably think the Phillies are going to just handle

1205
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: the Marlins.

1206
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm not gonna count the Marlins

1207
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 2: out because they've definitely got some magic going on right now.

1208
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: And Jake Berger has been possibly the best pickup of

1209
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: the trade deadline, as you've declared him. But it's it

1210
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 2: depends like what hazus Lozardo do they get? Do they

1211
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 2: get the hazes Lozardo we've seen this year? Because if so,

1212
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: he's gonna give that line fits he's been disgusting. Is

1213
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 2: Sandy do we know it is Sandy? Get a pitch? No?

1214
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 1: I expect too. Right now, they've lined up for Lazardo

1215
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: and Brex and Garrett for Games one to two against Wheeler.

1216
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 2: Not Uri Perez either, interesting, I'm sure.

1217
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: I just think because of URI's ending stuff, that he

1218
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: is the first guy at the bullpen no matter what

1219
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: game of this, especially because both of those pitchers are

1220
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: gonna be lefties and the Phillies are gonna build out

1221
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: a more ready heavy lineup, So I think then you

1222
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: can kind of bring Urie in as a hammer, even

1223
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: if it's just like even if Lazardo is pitching well

1224
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: but just has a high pitch, get a lot of

1225
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,479
Speaker 1: based runers for four to five inches, just not gonna

1226
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: give give Uri three, and then see if you can

1227
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: get to the bullpen.

1228
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go Phillies. This will also

1229
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: be super interesting because this will be the first time

1230
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 2: that this Marlins team will actually be playing in front

1231
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: of a crowd, because obviously they don't put anybody in

1232
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: Loan Depot Park. And I'll give I'll give Phillies fans this.

1233
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 2: They're gonna They're gonna fill out Bank Park. Then they're

1234
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: gonna be, They're gonna be, They're gonna be raucus, They're

1235
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: gonna be loud. They they did sell out like quite

1236
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 2: a bit during their a little bit prime with you know,

1237
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: Howard and Rollins and all those guys. But yeah, I'm

1238
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 2: not gonna say that Marlins have no chance because that's

1239
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: that's insane. It's baseball, Baseball is This is why baseball

1240
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: is awesome. This is why you watch postseason baseball for

1241
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: the chaos. Jash Chisholm could just take over the series.

1242
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: You don't know.

1243
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 2: This could be cool to see him on the national

1244
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 2: stage too. Give him a little bit more shine because

1245
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 2: he's a fun, awesome player. But yeah, I mean, Phillies

1246
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: are a dangerous team. We saw what they did last year.

1247
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:15,439
Speaker 2: I'm picking them again.

1248
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: The Phillies are dangerous though, But behind one and two

1249
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: right now is a big question mark like Chris ra Sanchez,

1250
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: who's been been probably their best picture all year, possibly

1251
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: even their second best ahead of Aaron Knowles. He get

1252
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: that third start, I don't know.

1253
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: I'll say this, if it goes to three games, Marlins

1254
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: are winning.

1255
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: It, Okay, I mean, who's the Marlins a game three pitcher?

1256
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it, worried. I can't, can't worry about that,

1257
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: worry about getting there.

1258
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: Who are you? Who are you rooting for here in

1259
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: that series? Yeah, Phillies, anyone, any anyone alive who could

1260
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: beat the Braves. Yeah, it's all yeah, whoever could beat

1261
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: the Braves. That's what we want to win.

1262
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: That's why I switched it back to the Brewers, because

1263
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: they could beat the Braves too, if they if they

1264
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: get there.

1265
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: I think, I think, I think you're selling the dimebacks

1266
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 1: a little short. I know that bullpen's probably not exactly

1267
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, the World Series caliber, but it scares me.

1268
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: That bullpen terrifies me. Like just the fact that Miguel

1269
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 2: Castro could be coming out in the eighth inning. It's

1270
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: just like I'm gonna need like to take like a

1271
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 2: and tacit.

1272
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: And its up really against the Braves. Are think I

1273
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: think we're good though here we covered a lot here.

1274
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: This was a funny gain guys, Agatin episodes back to

1275
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: back days, but a lot happened today in the Mets

1276
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: and just like talking ball, yeah, like.

1277
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: Talking ball anything else that happens during the off season

1278
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 2: and stuff. Of course, we will be here for you,

1279
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,800
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1280
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,360
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1281
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,760
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Speaker 2: Google Odyssey, download the podcast, subscribe, give us a rate,

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Speaker 2: and give us a review. We'll start shouting you guys

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Speaker 2: out again. If you're dropping some reviews for us, we

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Speaker 2: do appreciate that. Follow James on.

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Speaker 1: Twitter at James Underscore Ciano and.

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Speaker 2: Me Jiraftnick Mark with a C. Thank you guys for listening,

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Speaker 2: Thank you for washing shout out David Stern. So hope

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Speaker 2: you're listening and watching as well. That'd be cool. Probably not,

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Speaker 2: but hey, we're big fans. Welcome to New York. Let's

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Speaker 2: go Mets.

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Speaker 1: Let's go Mets. See you guys next time.