1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Please, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. A greetings and 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: welcome in another beautiful Fox Football Sunday underway. Just a 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: few hours until kickoff of this glorious game. We get 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: it rolling. One game already in the books. We'll review 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: that one in short order. Welcome in on Mike Harmon 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: alongside me, my tag team partner, a legend in the 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: biz NFL films, you know from the NFL Matchup Show. 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Pleased to have him a couple of hours every week. 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: We get to well pick each other's brains, me more 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: than him, but we have some fun and we hope 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: you do too. It's our guy, Greg Cosel. Greg, good morning, 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: Ready for another big week in the NFL. 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: Mister Harmon, I'm always ready for another big week in 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: the NFL. Always ready to talk a little NFL. 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, get me this as we'll get through all the 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: new cast of characters, like a lot of the understudies 17 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: getting their turning lights. If you had a program and 18 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: you said I'm here for number nine, like not at all, 19 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: he's not here. He's not here. But we've got a 20 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: guy your re gonna like, just give this kid a 21 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: chance and we'll talk about Jake Browning and all of 22 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: the particulars as we get going the injury rates. As 23 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: we talk about the quarterback position, I think it was 24 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: fifty seven different starters last year. We'll keep track of 25 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: that as the year goes on. Through two weeks, we 26 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: have six teams with zero turnovers, eight one hundred yard 27 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: rushing games, nine three hundred yard passing games. That's nine 28 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: different quarterbacks, by the way, and then we had twenty 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: one total receivers with one hundred receiving yards. The only 30 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: guys to do a twice ceed Lamb and Jackson Smith 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: and Jigba thus far. So we got a lot of chaos, 32 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 1: a lot of creativity, and a lot of nuance rolling through. 33 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: And already the odds of how long Mike McDaniel's gonna 34 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: get to give us some gems in postgame press conferences, Greg, 35 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: those odds getting shorter by the minute. 36 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a shame. You know. I've been around Mike McDaniel. 37 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: In fact, I had a great conversation with him a 38 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: number of years ago. Actually it was about the run game. 39 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: He was with the Niners at the time, and he's 40 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: always been considered one of the best run game offensive 41 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: minds in the business. Again, we're not there. We don't 42 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: know what he's like as a head coach. Obviously people 43 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: watch the press conferences. He's certainly not charismatic in the 44 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: way we normally think of the word charismatic. But you know, 45 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: we're not there, so we don't know. But it is 46 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: a little strange when you do have a player's only 47 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: meeting after the first game of the season, so you 48 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: know something's not right. We don't know all the details, 49 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: but something's not right. 50 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we know coming out of last season we had 51 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 1: the Tyreek Hill I'm out of here, and even as 52 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: we got into training camp into the first week of 53 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: the season, it's still seemed like there's some things that 54 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: needed mending. A couple of big plays between two and 55 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill in that opening or in the opener for 56 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: Week three, and the one across the middle was one 57 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: of the I think best adjustments we've seen between the 58 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: two of them. Wasn't it just throw it up and 59 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: go get it kind of situation? Greg, But we talk 60 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: about Two a tongue of I looa oftentimes about his 61 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: accuracy efficiency and that you won't get the crushing turnover 62 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: well against the Bills with an opportunity to go get 63 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: that game. Twenty two to thirty four, one hundred and 64 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: forty six yards, a muted effort by Buffalo d but 65 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: the critical turnover trying to place the ball with a 66 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: lot of touch. I always want to see him drive it. 67 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 1: It's like we were talking a lot about Clayton Kershaw, 68 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, Jason Smith on our show, with the greatness 69 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: of his career, and how as a lefty sometimes you 70 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: don't have that big drive through kind of velocity like 71 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: you do with a Randy Johnson. And on that play, Tua, 72 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: with maybe a little more push on the ball get 73 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: to complete, but instead it's a turnover and Buffalo walks away. 74 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot to dissect, I think, certainly with 75 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: that play and with Tua as a whole. That play 76 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: was just a route they run all the time. Everybody 77 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: runs that route. It's essentially what we call a snag 78 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: flat kind scept some people called a spot route, where 79 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: one receiver just runs to a spot it's maybe six 80 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: seven yards from the ball. Another receiver runs into the 81 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: flat hence snag flat, and the third receiver just runs 82 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: a corner route behind it. It's pretty much a timing 83 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: rhythm throw. You're not really reading, you're reading one player, 84 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: you're reading the player underneath, and if he starts to 85 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: expand into the flat, you're throwing the spot or the 86 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: snag route. Now, I did read a comment by Bernard, 87 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: the linebacker for the Bills who made the interception, where 88 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: he basically said he read the route. And one thing 89 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: that the Bills did on that play was they changed 90 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: the picture pre snap to post snap. They showed a 91 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 2: too high look, and then they changed the picture to 92 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: cover three and Bernard that was his area in the coverage. 93 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: He was an underneath hook defender, that's the term we 94 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: use for where he was. So he read it and 95 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: he intercepted it. Now, I've seen so much as you have, 96 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: I'm sure, by a lot of really smart people talking 97 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 2: about the play. It's not really a read kind of play. 98 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: It's it's three step drop timing. Now, it's easy to 99 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: say he should have known he was there, but when 100 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: he started his delivery, Bernard was not that close. Bernard 101 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 2: just read the whole thing and made a great play. 102 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: But it's three step drop timing, so you're not looking 103 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: one way and coming back the other way. It was 104 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: just you know, it's a route that they run. Everybody runs, 105 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: and Bernard made a great play. You know. Unfortunately it's 106 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: you rip the quarterback for that, but it was just 107 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 2: really a good defensive play. 108 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: Yeah. And even in the post game, McDaniel had a 109 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: little bit of a back and forth in terms of 110 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: trying to assess that play. And unfortunately, as as you 111 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: mentioned in his press conferences, sometimes he doesn't help himself. 112 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: Now we have we have a quick little thing here 113 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: that that we've added, Greg to highlight the genius of 114 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: what you gave us with the snag clatt noo sells class. 115 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: There we go. We're we're teachable, so Bo, do you 116 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: like me to do? You gave us the lesson? Ok, 117 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: And we want to make sure we highlight that where 118 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: we get those teachable moments. 119 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: Here's here's the larger point though about Tua, and I've 120 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: said this even when I watched him come out from 121 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: from Alabama and a lot of people didn't see him 122 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: the way I did. And I think in this particular case, 123 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: my evaluation was correct. Too. Is a certain kind of player. 124 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: In order for him to be successful, he has to 125 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: be a pure timing and rhythm thrower. We've seen that 126 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: over the years. There are times when he looks really, 127 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: really good and the offense is clicking, he hits that 128 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 2: back foot, the ball comes out. He's a great between 129 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: the numbers windows thrower. But more and more teams now 130 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: know that that's what he is. He's not much more 131 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 2: than that, so you start taking away a lot of 132 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: those window throws. He didn't have one window throw against 133 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: the Bills. Now the Bills are in their division, so 134 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 2: they know how to play them, and obviously they've beaten 135 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: them numerous times as we know. But teams are really 136 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 2: doing a much better job of taking away those rhythm 137 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: window throws. And the question is is there more to 138 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: his game up to this point? There's not now. As 139 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: I said, when it works, he can be awesome and 140 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: it looks beautiful because he hits that back foot, the 141 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: ball comes out, The rhythm is there, the timing's there, 142 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: he's precisely accurate with his ball location. But if you 143 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: take those things away, as more teams are, I'm not 144 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: sure what the next move is for two in his game. 145 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: Greg Gosel, Mike CARVERA with you here, Fox Football Sunday, 146 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. All right, let's flip to the other 147 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: side of that game. James Cook looked like he was 148 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: gonna run for four hundred yards in the first half. Greg, 149 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: But there's one play I want to highlight a little 150 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: bit of Josh Allen. And we've been talking a lot 151 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: about pre snap and changing your looks. What the Bills 152 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: did on the touchdown pass to Khalil Shakir in the 153 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: pre snap to get him moving with something special. 154 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And the thing is the Bills now have become 155 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: a team that uses a ton of pre snap movement. 156 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: This is something they built up over time with Joe 157 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: Brady Mike and they didn't do a lot of it 158 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: before Brady became the guy. And more and more teams 159 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: than the league are doing this, and pre snap movement 160 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: has sort of become foundational to really become a good 161 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: offense in the league with the nuances and subtleties that 162 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: the defenses now bring to the table. You know, the 163 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: fascinating thing about that game is Josh Allen played that 164 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: game because it was really a James Cook game. Josh 165 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: Allen played that game, and I wouldn't say conservatively, but 166 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: Josh has sort of settled into being a guy that 167 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: plays the game as it demands. He's not really a gunslinger. 168 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: That element of his game is not there unless the 169 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: game demands it, as of course it did week one. 170 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 2: But that's not the way he plays. I saw a 171 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: statistic that I thought was, I think, phenomenal. I'm trying 172 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: to remember it. I think he has thirty touchdowns and 173 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 2: one turnover in something like the last eighteen games. I mean, 174 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: he does not turn the ball over. So he really 175 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 2: plays within the context of the game. And if he 176 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: needs to be Josh Allen Superman, yes he can do that, 177 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: but he really doesn't go out to play that way. 178 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: Well. The other curiosity, as we talk about the evolution 179 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: of Greg for me, ten different targets, nine different receivers 180 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: in that game out against Miami, not trying to force 181 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: the ball. Take what they get, a couple of big 182 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: plays to Dalton Kincaid, who's becoming that much more valuable. 183 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: He's the guy we thought he was from twenty twenty three. 184 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: But the efficiency of Shakir. You know, I do an 185 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: evening show with the Jets fans, so Elijah Moore showing 186 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: up for a big play well on air is not 187 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: exactly what he wants to see. But all of that 188 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: to say, the distribution of the football and being more 189 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: careful and judicious in the decision making that next evolution, 190 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: you know. 191 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: And the other thing too is they are a team 192 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 2: that has really kind of evolved into playing a lot 193 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: of big people. Last year they played with a sixth 194 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: offensive lineman, far and away more than any team in 195 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: the league. This year, they drafted Jackson Hawes in the 196 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: first round from Georgia Tech, the best blocking tight end 197 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty five draft, and now he's playing 198 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: meaningful snaps. So they play more of what we call 199 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: thirteen personnel with one back and three tight ends, so 200 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: they they really play with a lot of big people. 201 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 2: They run the ball. Cook is a really good cutback runner. 202 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 2: He's almost a natural cutback runner, and I think they 203 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: take advantage of that in their blocking schemes. So they're 204 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: really a fascinating team because there was the sense, as 205 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: you know, Mike for a number of years that oh, 206 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: as Josh Allen goes, that's who they are. It's all 207 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: Josh Allen are nothing. We know he's capable of doing 208 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: anything at any given time, but they don't really play 209 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 2: that way. They don't put it on his plate just 210 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: to say, hey, if you unless you play great, we 211 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: can't win. That's not the way they play. 212 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that rolling the ball out four year, forty eight 213 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: million dollar extension for James Cook, showing that confidence in 214 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: what was the dead position before last year, Greg is 215 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: what I was told. The other for Hawes got to 216 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: point out he was actually improperly identified on a penalty. 217 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: So I think to make up for the shame, they 218 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: took care of him by getting a touchdown. Pass now 219 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: but becoming a bigger part, right, we will watch the 220 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: tight end position always a big thing, not even showing 221 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: up in this scorecard for this one Dawson Knox, who's 222 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: also a part of that offense. So just that curiosity. 223 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: Now three to zero, no turnovers and just a little 224 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: bit of a different brand of football for them. Remember 225 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: they also played defensively without Ed Oliver. 226 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 2: Right and so they played the two rookies T J. 227 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: Sanders from South Carolina who was a second round pick 228 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: and Dion Walker from Kentucky who was a fourth round pick. 229 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: And you might recall, because I know you follow college 230 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: football very closely, that prior to his last year in college, 231 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 2: a lot of people thought Dian Walker was a top 232 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: twenty pick in the draft and he just didn't have 233 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: that great final season. But you're talking about a huge 234 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: man who's naturally athletic and naturally powerful. And the main 235 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 2: thing with guys like that is the pad level is 236 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 2: if they stand straight up, then they're done. No matter 237 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: how big and strong they are. If they can stay 238 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: relatively low, they can move extremely well, and you see 239 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: their physical traits maximized. Walker the last couple of weeks 240 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: has really done a nice job getting more snaps with 241 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: Oliver being out of really staying low and using his 242 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: really great physical traits his advantage. He's become a force 243 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: for them a little bit. 244 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: To give a little bit of the extra Dion Walker 245 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: according to this dat six seven, three thirty one, I've 246 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: always talked about it, Greg. When I have a big 247 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: office that I've built my own little in house studio, 248 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to have my wall of mean because I 249 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: am built like a fire plug. I have always loved 250 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: the defensive tackles. He doesn't fit the mold of the 251 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: guys that I'm talking about, But going back to the 252 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: Nadas and Will Forks and all those guys, those are 253 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: always my favorite guys disrupting the run game and swallowing plays. 254 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, well those guys were built a little differently. Those 255 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: are the short guys, as you said, the kind of 256 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: the plug guys. You know, this guy's different. I mean 257 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: he's six seven. He just looks different. 258 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just crazy. And imagine if you're a shorter 259 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: quarterback just trying to stay in the in the pocket 260 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: and trying to look over if he gets a full extension, 261 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: good luck. A lot of batted down passes in the 262 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: huffing going forward, He's great. Co Sal had great. Go 263 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: Sal where you find him in the Twitter verse, NFL matchup, 264 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: you see some of the videos always with the Colin 265 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: Cowherd on Thursday mornings. 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Wherever however you're listening. 303 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: We've got two hours with you now and then obviously 304 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: at Greg Coast Sell you've got some clips from earlier 305 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: in the week, go back in and add the video component. 306 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: It's layering. It's layering. It's education, it's it's entertainment, it's football, 307 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: it's everything we love. And also, hey, it's not just 308 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: a game. It's a once in a generation of the 309 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: Harlem Globe Trotters one hundred year Tour. That's right, one 310 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: hundred year Tour. Come be a part of the legacy 311 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: and it never stops. Be there when history's made. The 312 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: Harlem Globetrotters one hundred Year Tour. Get your tickets today 313 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: at Harlem Globetrotters dot com. It's one of my favorite 314 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: things growing up. You can get some tickets and you 315 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: go watch some chaos, and then you try to do 316 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: it on a basketball court and eventually someone would basically 317 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: just take the ball from you. All right, stop spinning it. 318 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: You got to play some basketball here, you know, that's 319 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: why football is better. Just put the ball in my 320 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: hand and I can run, and you got to try 321 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: to disengage it from me more physically and violently. 322 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: Greg, Well, you know, I played basketball for a lot 323 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: of years, but you know I'm a football guy now 324 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: in my advancing years. Been a long time I've been 325 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: doing this now, Mike, you know, well. 326 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: You know, a couple of years, a couple of spins 327 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: for you, a couple of few for me. This is 328 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: your twenty in this Sunday morning world. For me here 329 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: in the beautiful confines at Fox Sports Radio, so blessed 330 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: to do it every Sunday morning. Nothing better than that. 331 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: What is it? The Robert Duvall was, smells like victory 332 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: for a lot of teams. They're wishing and wanting and 333 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: hoping that that's what today's smells like. We got one 334 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: matchup that's got a couple of new quarterbacks under center, 335 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: an old name. And I saw this as Adam Schefter, 336 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: I had put this out Carson Wentz today starting against 337 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: the Bengals, the first quarterback to start for six different 338 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: teams in six different and six consecutive seasons. I mean, 339 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: that's just insane. 340 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: That's crazy. That's crazy. You know. Carthon Wentz was always 341 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 2: fascinating to me. I remember watching him coming out of 342 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 2: college and I really liked him. And you know, those 343 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: first couple of years with the Eagles, that second year 344 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 2: when he tore his ACL, I think it was Week 345 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 2: thirteen against the Rams, he was on his way to 346 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 2: being the league MVP. He looked like a big time quarterback. 347 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 2: He's big, he could throw it, he could move, and 348 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, it just mentally, it just 349 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: didn't seem to work the way it was supposed to work. 350 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: And obviously stated as the Eagle starter for a number 351 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: of years, he moved on to a couple of plays. 352 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 2: Actually had a good year in Indianapolis a couple of 353 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: years ago, but they lost that final game as you recalled, 354 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: to Jacksonville, which it was winning. They're in the playoffs, 355 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: and they lost badly, and he did not have a 356 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 2: very good game, and it seemed as if they couldn't 357 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: get him out of the building fast enough. Again, we 358 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: don't know what the deal is, but that's what it 359 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: seemed like. And since then he's sort of been kind 360 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 2: of nomadic, and I guess we'll find out. He certainly 361 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: has a great head coach and a great offensive mine 362 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: in Kevin O'Connell, So we'll see what today brings. I'm 363 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: kind of fascinating to see that of the That's one 364 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: of the fun things about the league, the situations like this. 365 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you just have no idea. The overall was sitting 366 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 1: at forty one, so they're not expecting huge fireworks and 367 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of a defensive struggle here, but yeah, 368 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: that the year in Indianapolis was just fascinating. Right in 369 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: the post, Andrew luck Era, he was one of the 370 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: guys that got a spin. Completed a little over sixty 371 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: two percent of his passes thirty five hundred yards six 372 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: point nine and an average pertempt and you're looking at 373 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: twenty seven touchdowns and seven picks that normally buys you 374 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: a multi year contract. Yes, he was shown the door. 375 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: And from which again you know you'd have to be 376 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 2: there and know everything about it, but it seemed like 377 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 2: they couldn't get rid of him. Fast enough. Didn't it 378 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: seem that way? 379 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely? Yeah, it's like, all right, we've got a fall guy. 380 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, unfortunately for Indianapolis, I've raised my 381 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: hand more than a few times on the network, and 382 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: then appearances of trying to figure out direction and purpose 383 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: in some of the decisions making through the last eight years. 384 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: It's so funny. I mean, there's so many games we 385 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 2: could talk about today, and we'll get to a bunch obviously, 386 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 2: but just you know, talking and things pop into my head. 387 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: You know. With quarterbacks, you know, I think that there's 388 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 2: very few guys, and I'm not sure people really think 389 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 2: of it. There's very few guys that could probably play 390 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: in any system and be really effective players. So so 391 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: much depends on the system that they're asked to run, 392 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 2: how they're coached, what they're asked to do the rest 393 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: of the team. I mean, I remember years ago, you know, 394 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: one of the highlights, maybe the absolute highlight of my career, 395 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 2: was that I got to know Bill Walsh and I 396 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: remember Bill Watshs telling me he was either the quarterback 397 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 2: coach or the offensive coordinator in nineteen seventy six for 398 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: the San Diego Chargers and Dan Fouts was the quarterback, 399 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: and Fouts that always talked about how Wat's just really 400 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 2: sort of got his career on the right path. But 401 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: then everybody knows Bill watsh with Joe Montana. But I 402 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 2: remember Bill Walsh telling me that, hey, Dan Fouts had 403 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 2: a bigger arm than Joe, and there were some throws 404 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 2: that Dan could make that Joe couldn't make. So we 405 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,479 Speaker 2: didn't ask Joe to make those throws. Now, when you 406 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: hear that, people think, oh, Joe Montana one of the first, second, 407 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: third best quarterback of all time. But you know, that's 408 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 2: what coaching is, understanding what your quarterback can and can do, 409 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 2: you know, understanding what he does well, what his limitations are, 410 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 2: and staying away from those, playing to his straints and 411 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: having your team play to his straints. Because there's very 412 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 2: few transcendent guys, very few. 413 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: That's it. We use the term generational on awful. 414 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, business great, and we should never use that term. 415 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's like a four letter word. Here. I 416 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: feel like I put need to go into a swear 417 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: jar here in the sports radio studios for that one 418 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: at Greg Gozzo where you find him in the Joiner verse, 419 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: find me over at Swollen Dome. All right, let's go 420 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: to the other side of the equation and hear a 421 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: throw from their opponent today. Harris snaps it back to 422 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: Browning on the pocket. He flings it deep down the sideline, 423 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: says to the catchick still on his feet, Nacon Higgins, 424 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: he'll walk into the end zone for up Bengals touchdown. 425 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: Bengals Radio on the call. Jake Browning, that guy, we 426 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: had him twenty twenty three, seventy percent completion rate, twelve touchdowns, 427 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: seven picks. Here he is with the surgery finally done 428 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: for Joe Burrow and his timetable three months or whatever 429 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, nebulous term you put on it. We have 430 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: no idea how that toe is gonna respond post surgery. 431 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: It sounds like a bogus injury. But everybody I've talked 432 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: to you that's ever experienced turf toe will tell you 433 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: how miserable an experience it is. Greg. So, now you've 434 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: got Jake Browning and he becomes the guy, and it 435 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: makes life a little bit easier when you've got Higgins 436 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: and Chase to get things started. But a guy who 437 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: proved himself very valuable to them back in twenty. 438 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 2: Twenty three and obviously knowes the offense. He's been there. 439 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: He's an interesting guy because he's not a big armed kid, 440 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 2: but he's an aggressive mindset thrower, and so once in 441 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: a while that gets him into trouble and he'll throw 442 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 2: some picks. But the thing is, when you have Chase, 443 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: you have Higgins, he will push the ball down the field, 444 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: and clearly their offense is built that way. I mean, 445 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: one of the things Joe Burrow did just as a 446 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: matter of course, and was maybe as good as anybody 447 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 2: in the league doing it, is when he saw one 448 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 2: on one on the outside with either Chase or Higgins, 449 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: he was throwing to them. And I've had coaches say, hey, 450 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 2: if it's one on one on the outside, that's what 451 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: you have to do. And Browning will do that. Now 452 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 2: he's not as good a thrower as Burrow, but he 453 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 2: is an aggressive thrower, and I think that's built into 454 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: how they want to play, because the bottom line is 455 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: those two receivers, Chase in particular, they're as good as 456 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: it gets in the league. So that's the way they 457 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 2: want to play. You know, you just hope that Browning 458 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: as he plays more because even though he played well 459 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. It's not as if he 460 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: has fifty NFL stars. So you just hope that he 461 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: understands game situations and knows when to turn it loose, 462 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: when to be aggressive, and when maybe not to be aggressive. 463 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: That that just comes from experience. 464 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: You hope Chase Brown out of the backfield as well. 465 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: You look at their schedule, I mean in rarefied position 466 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: for them in September here, Greg, normally we're like, all right, 467 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: they're down two in the standing. Now it's a matter 468 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: of chasing. You got Minnesota this week, and you got 469 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: a Bronco squad, Why don't we transition to them? Sure, 470 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: I had to figure out what they are right now defensively, 471 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: not the unit you were anticipating. They're on the road 472 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: for the first home game for the Los Angeles Chargers. 473 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: Also rising up to the top of the standings without 474 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack though after that gruesome elbow injury. But looking 475 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: at this, the Chargers completing that run of three division 476 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: games to start the season. But what have you seen 477 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: from bow Knicks and Sean Payton in your two. 478 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think Knicks has played quite as well 479 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 2: as he did toward the end of last season up 480 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 2: to this point, and given the fact that their defense 481 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 2: has not played as well as as you said your 482 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 2: points one hundred percent correct, their defense hasn't played as well. 483 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: This gets into the whole team concept. You know, Bo Nicks. 484 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: I really liked bon Nicks coming out. I had an 485 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: opportunity to shat with him before the draft the year 486 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 2: he came out. Really impressive kids, super intelligent, you know, 487 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 2: good player, good good marriage with what he does. And 488 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: Sean Payton. But again, it's a team thing. And for instance, 489 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: last week against the Colts, their defense was not very good. 490 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: They gave up four hundred and seventy three yards of 491 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 2: total offense and then that's too many obviously, And what 492 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: Vance Joseph did it was fascinating. It was really kind 493 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: of an aberration. They blitzed on almost seventy percent of 494 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones's dropbacks. Think about that number, seventy percent and 495 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones ate them up. And they blitzed and played 496 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 2: man coverage. And how many times over the last number 497 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 2: of years have we been able to say the words 498 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones ate them up. 499 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: I've been a Daniel Jones truther. To a point here. Yeah, 500 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: back when we talked about it a little bit last 501 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,959 Speaker 1: week before that game went off, Greg was, you know, 502 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: the last time he was truly healthy with balance there 503 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: with the Giants high completion rate, Look, he wasn't gonna 504 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: light up the scoreboard. And certainly through two weeks, I 505 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: think we're all scratching our had a little bit off 506 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: of how efficient everything's been. But I mean, he was 507 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: a three touchdown per interception guy, took care of the ball, 508 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: made plays with his legs. Yeah, the fact that he's 509 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: doing this behind a pretty good offense not completely a shock, 510 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: but with the expectations of what that Denver defense was 511 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: supposed to be, the fact that he was able to 512 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: pull the strings last week was a little bit eye opening. 513 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you know, one of the things I think 514 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 2: Shane Steichen's doing really, really well. And again this gets 515 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: back to the quarterback discussion. Everybody always wants to talk quarterbacks. 516 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: Sure is that they've done a great job throwing the 517 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 2: ball on first down through two games, and that is 518 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: truly the best down to throw because what you get 519 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 2: in the NFL normally nothing's one hundred percent. The NFL 520 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 2: is about probability, and tendency more than anything else. But 521 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 2: what you tend to get from defenses on first down 522 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: are there more predictable fronts, They are more predictable coverages. 523 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: You have a better feel for what you're going on 524 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 2: up against. It's a normal down and distance situation. And 525 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: Jones through two games has been phenomenal on first down. 526 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 2: He's eighteen for twenty five for three hundred and three 527 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 2: yards on first down, so you know, think about that too. 528 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: That's twenty five pass attempts on first down and he 529 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: has the most passing yards on first down through two games. 530 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: So you know, whether this continues, all we have You know, 531 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 2: I always tell people because they think they hear me 532 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 2: talk and they think, oh, you think Daniel Jones is great? No, 533 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 2: you know what we have. We have Daniel Jones through 534 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: two games on tape. That's what we have right now. 535 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 2: So that's all you can comment on. I can't tell 536 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 2: you what's going to happen today or what's going to 537 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: happen in six weeks, but this is what we have 538 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 2: through two games. 539 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: Curious matchup later on today, divisional foe, the Tennessee Titans. 540 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: What we do know is that they need five guys 541 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: that can dance together to try to protect their young quarterback. 542 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's you know, they thought they really upgraded 543 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 2: their line. I think it will happen over time. Lath them. 544 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: The right tackle, second year player from Alabama who's a 545 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: good player, missed last week. He's going to miss this 546 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 2: week as well. The left tackle who they paid a 547 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: lot of money for, Dan Moore, has not played particularly 548 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 2: well through two games. I actually think cam Ward played 549 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 2: really well in his second game. I think he's a 550 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 2: very comfortable player. I think he has a sense of timing. 551 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 2: I think he knows where to go with the football. 552 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 2: We know he can make better He can make special plays, 553 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: as we like to say those you know that touchdown 554 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: he threw. Not a lot of guys are going to 555 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: even attempt that throw. But you know, they've got some 556 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 2: concerns on both sides of the ball. But they've been 557 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 2: really you know, the thing that's been lost because they 558 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 2: have to win games because I think Brian Callahan I 559 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: think is three and sixteen and nineteen games, so they 560 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: have to win games. 561 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: They're battling, right. 562 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 2: But Yeah, I was just going to say they've been 563 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: really competitive against two really good teams winning in the 564 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: second half and the scores don't reflect they played and 565 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: how competitive they've been. So in many ways, today's a 566 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 2: huge game for them because they're at home, and even 567 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: though Indies two and zero and playing well, it's a 568 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 2: game they really have to win, just you know, for 569 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: the head coach, curse you and know how that goes. 570 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 2: I mean, at some point you got to win games. 571 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: Decent returns out of the backfield from Tony Pollard to 572 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: your point. Right, the final score thirty three to nineteen 573 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: against the Rams, they battled them. I had that as 574 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: my ISO games, Like, all right, they're one play away 575 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: perhaps from flipping this thing, and instead we get to 576 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: see a little more of the Stafford Adams connection. We'll 577 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: get hit on that a little more. Next your hour. 578 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 579 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: With the iHeartRadio app, you can stream us wherever you 580 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: happen to be catch all of our Fox Sports Radio 581 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: shows live twenty four to seven. 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But as we continue, 592 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: so give that to your friends and family, evangelize for 593 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: us as we continue our path the global domination. Let 594 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: me circle back real quick to the chargers of what 595 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: they've been able to share offensively thus far. Greg Jim 596 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: Harbaugh kept telling us he's going to make Justin Herbert 597 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: on an MVP or die Trying. I may be adding 598 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: the or die trying part because it adds some gravitas 599 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: to it. But a lot of billboards here in between 600 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: the lawyers and ambulance chasers here in southern California. People 601 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: starting to believe the hype. But for Justin Herbert, he'd 602 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: been able to pull the strings right now with multiple 603 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: wide receivers. Kind of fun to watch them get back 604 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: to slinging it. 605 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you wonder if Jim Harboy's decided to 606 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 2: take a little more interest in the offense as it were, 607 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 2: because you know, the Greg Roman run game was certainly 608 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: not the defining feature a week ago. And you know, 609 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: Herbert is a big time talent. I think most people 610 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: just from a talent perspective, you know, see him as 611 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 2: in that top five group in the league. And he's 612 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: such an easy thrower. He can get the ball down 613 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 2: the field, as we saw in the Johnston sixty yard 614 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: touchdown last week. We'll see if they stay this way, Mike. 615 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 2: In other words, you know, they've been a little more 616 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: aggressive with the pass game. They still play that Scott Mattlocke, 617 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: who was a defensive tackle in college. They still play 618 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: him at the full back position. He still gets meaningful snaps, 619 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: but they throw out of that now that personnel package 620 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: a little more than they did a year ago. So 621 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: we'll see. Because Najie Harris and the rookie Omari and Hampton, 622 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: they've not really carried the ball very much through two games. 623 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 2: So we'll see if this is a true change in 624 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: how they want to play or if this is just 625 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: the way the first two games have played out. 626 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: Big test today at home, we'll see what Denver brings 627 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: to bear, whether they can tighten up some things on 628 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: defense and how vance Joseph and company attack. As you said, 629 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: the seventy seventy one percent blitz rate an attack rate 630 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: a week ago. 631 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 2: That was crazy crazy watching that. I mean it seemed 632 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 2: like they were blitzing on every play. You rarely see 633 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 2: that in the NFL. 634 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: And think about it, you do that against this offense. 635 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Keenan Allen back and while he's not the 636 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: same guy, he and Herbert it's riding a bike, right. 637 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: They got right back into it. Trey Harris, they'll work 638 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: him in more of the rookie that they brought in. 639 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: But Johnston seems like just a much different kid than 640 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: he was going back to that rookie year. Whatever they've 641 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: instilled in him and the confidence that's come back has 642 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: just been phenomenal to watch. And mconkey is just a 643 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: pros pro. 644 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: He's a pros pro. He's just one of those guys. 645 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny when I did him coming out 646 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 2: of college, I didn't really have a weakness in his 647 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 2: game for what he is, and people started saying, oh, 648 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: you're crazy. You know, you don't know what you're talking about. 649 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 2: Because you have to think about how he'll be deployed 650 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 2: in the league. No one's going to put him at 651 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 2: what we call boundary X, the single receiver, you know, 652 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 2: to the short side of the field, and have him 653 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: just win one on one against big time corners. That's 654 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 2: not who he is. So to say he probably can't 655 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 2: do that is to me meaningless statement because no one 656 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: would even think to ask him to do that. But 657 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: for what he is, he really does not have a 658 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 2: weakness as a receiver. 659 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: Lad mcconkee becoming one of those stars. And he stands 660 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: a scant six foot with a maybe a little hair 661 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: towards six one. So yeah, not your prototypical go up 662 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: and get it receiver. No, throw him into a pattern 663 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: and let him go make a play. 664 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly who he is. He's really good at 665 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: great feel for route run, and great understanding versus man 666 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: i've had to attack leverage, great feel for finding saft 667 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 2: spots and zones. But Herbert is just, you know, he's 668 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 2: he's one of those quarterbacks for me, you know, I 669 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: love watching quarterbacks. Who's just fun to watch. He's such 670 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 2: an easy thrower. 671 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: Of the football and eventually it looks like he's actually 672 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: starting to embrace the fact of his star power, like 673 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: he's he's been a reticence star in Los Agles. 674 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well that's a personality thing. And again we 675 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 2: don't know how he is in the locker room, but 676 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 2: you know, obviously, uh, you know the way he presents 677 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: himself publicly, very reserved. But in this past game I 678 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 2: thought he processed really well. He does. He hasn't been 679 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 2: forcing balls, although when it's called and there's there's an 680 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 2: intermedia to deeper shot available, he'll take it. The crazy 681 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 2: thing was in the last game they did all their 682 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 2: damage on second down, and we never think of second 683 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,439 Speaker 2: down as a down. You think of, hey, first down 684 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: and third down the money down, but you never think 685 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 2: of second down as like, you know, a down, you know, 686 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: but that's been their most productive passing down through two games. 687 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, being able to pull the strings that positive yardage, 688 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 1: getting ahead of the sticks on first down and really 689 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 1: open it up that playbook. He's great co Cell, had 690 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: great co cell. Where you find him, check everything he's 691 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: got going on the NFL Matchup Show, his appearances, awesome 692 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: video clips, and of course evangelizing our work here at 693 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Find me over at Swollen Home. I'll 694 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: get you some fantasy goods later on in the morning 695 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: as we get closer to kickoff and those injury reports 696 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: start coming back. The show sponsored by Draft King sportsbook 697 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: and official betting partner the NFL. Right now, use the 698 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: promo code Fox Game. That's Fox Game, Fox Game to 699 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 1: claim your special offer at DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. 700 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: Don't forget promo code Fox Game. Go log in. Now 701 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: get your picks in for your Sunday of football action. 702 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: As we continue, I've filibustered long enough. We got two 703 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: teams that maybe someone will make a defensive play. I'm 704 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: not so sure, the Bears and the Cowboys. Greg co 705 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: Sell and I chop that up next here on Fox. 706 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio. It's Fox Football Sunday. 707 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us, being part of our extended family. 708 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: Mike Carbon alongside Greg Cosel forty six years NFL films 709 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: the NFL Matchup Show, making us all take a different 710 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: lens into our football watching world and we go to 711 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: our televisions and giant grids really looking and being a 712 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: bit and using some of this terminology. Right, you got 713 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: your boundary acts, you got your what was it the 714 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: flat earlier. So I mean, we've got all sorts of 715 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: stuff that we're evangelizing here, Greg, as we get going 716 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: on a week three Sunday. 717 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 2: Absolutely, well, hopefully I'm explaining it because I mean, this 718 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 2: is you know, it's funny. I sit here in my 719 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 2: office and watch tape. You know. I actually came in 720 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 2: real early this morning so I could watch the Dolphins 721 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 2: offense versus the Bills defense, so I could get ahead 722 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,919 Speaker 2: of get ahead of the week for myself. But yeah, 723 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 2: you know, so I just see the game, you know, 724 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 2: So I always try to think, Okay, got to explain 725 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 2: it so that the people who don't live in this world, 726 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 2: you know, know exactly what I'm talking about. 727 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 1: That's it. You're painting a beautiful picture. Again for those 728 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: keeping track at home, it's the snag flatten the boundary X. 729 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: Get our book of terminology together here, Greg. All right, 730 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams through two games, I thought he looked better 731 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: against the Lions, and then once that thing happened at 732 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: the end of the first half that put the Lions 733 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: back on the field where they eventually scored the touchdown. 734 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: Like that took any life the Bears had in them. Yeah, 735 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: out and they expired thereafter, Sir Jared Goff and the 736 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: offense went rolling, but completion percentages up a little bit, 737 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: hit romandonsay with a couple of big shots. It's a 738 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: growing process and unfortunately, you know, people don't like that 739 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: it bleeds along the way. 740 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 2: I know that's a great point. I mean, you know 741 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 2: how that goes. And they've been starved in Chicago for 742 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 2: a great quarterback for a long time, so as you 743 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 2: probably know, being from there, I would say that he Yeah, 744 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 2: I would say it was better early on in terms 745 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 2: of being decisive. I mean that's one of the things 746 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 2: that coaches look for, you know, when they call a 747 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 2: play and not always is the primary receiver open, that 748 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 2: they call it with the hope that that's what happens. 749 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 2: But you want to see your quarterback be decisive. You 750 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 2: want to see him hit that back foot deliver the football, 751 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 2: whether it's to the primary or the secondary. You want 752 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 2: to see the ball come out. And I thought he 753 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 2: was better early on on as the game progressed. And 754 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 2: of course, you don't want to be in a situation 755 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 2: where you're young quarterback who's essentially a rookie all over 756 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 2: again with Ben Johnson where he has to drop back 757 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 2: and throw on every snap, because that's where I think 758 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 2: the issues start. That's where I think his natural way 759 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 2: of playing the position, which is to be a little 760 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 2: Frenetic's not the right word, but you know, he doesn't 761 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 2: have a feel at this point for what is and 762 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 2: isn't pressure by NFL standards. You know, he still shows 763 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 2: a tendency to break down in the pocket prematurely and unnecessarily, 764 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 2: and that's something that you can only learn with experience 765 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 2: because in college you don't see that very often. 766 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then once you're chasing those balance out the window. 767 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: Not that they did anything really to address the running 768 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: back position. DeAndre Swift should be available later on today 769 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: as they played the Cowboys, but can make some hay 770 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: in theory. You got Bland already out. Trevonto Dieggs with 771 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 1: the knee injury, will be limited. Meanwhile, Dallas shot and 772 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 1: Iber gets his first w as they got one of 773 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: the most wildly entertaining games that we might see all 774 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: season against the Giants. But for Dak Prescott getting a 775 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: lot more help from Javonte Williams to give them some 776 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: balance in the offense than I expected. 777 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 2: Greg yeah, and I would think they'd like to continue that. 778 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 2: I mean, look the game played out last week where 779 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 2: Dak had to drop back more than I would think 780 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 2: that that shot he would like him to do. But 781 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 2: I thought, I think through two games, Prescott's played well. 782 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 2: And it's funny. I really did a deep dive into 783 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 2: Prescott this summer from last year and I thought there 784 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 2: were some issues in his game, and they're not really 785 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 2: showing up. Through the first two games, He's been very impressive. 786 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 2: I think one thing that they need to figure out 787 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 2: in my view. Anyway, they may not see it as 788 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 2: an issue. I think they've got to get George Pickens 789 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 2: involved more. I mean, you're dealing with a guy and 790 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 2: this look, I don't know George Pickens, So what I'm 791 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 2: about to say has nothing to do with what kind 792 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 2: of person he is or his character. I wouldn't know 793 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 2: that at all. But he is super gifted and getting 794 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 2: back to your point about the boundary, the single receiver 795 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 2: to the short side of the field, that's exactly what 796 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 2: he is and he gets a lot of single coverage 797 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 2: and to me, just because he's so gifted, and maybe 798 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 2: it's gonna take time just for Dak to feel comfortable 799 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 2: with him, But I think he needs more targets than 800 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 2: he's gotten through two weeks. 801 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: Get the ball up and let the guy go make 802 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: some plays. You got CD, that's gonna always get that 803 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,399 Speaker 1: shade of the safety. Greg seems like he got some 804 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 1: potential one on one opportunities to be had. All right, 805 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: our one in the books. Coming up next, we continue 806 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,240 Speaker 1: with one of the enigmas in the National Football League. 807 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Ah, Yes, Greening's 808 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: welcome in hour two of the program, A beautiful Fox 809 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: Football Sunday, Week three of your National Football League season. Yes, 810 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: we already have thirty three games in the books. I 811 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: have my countdown. I celebrate all two hundred and seventy 812 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: two of them. Even if you guys don't eat, if 813 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: you don't love some of the teams, you don't like 814 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: the logo on the side, they don't help your fantasy squad, No, no, no, 815 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: we celebrate them all. Here Mike Carbon alongside Greg cosel 816 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: NFL films. He's diving in deep each and every week. 817 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: I already just did his review of the Thursday game, 818 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: So look for the analysis. We've already talked about it 819 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 1: here on the show. The podcast will go up when 820 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: we're done. Greg some interesting matchups later on today and 821 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: some new participants to it all as well in that 822 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: Monday Night affair. We'll get to it later on in 823 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: the hour. It might be one of the most fascinating 824 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 1: for me, but a game that stands out AFC South 825 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: will celebrate it because others won't. You're Houston Texans against 826 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Jags a narrow home favorite about forty five. 827 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: They're getting some good play out of ETN out of 828 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 1: the backfield, given Trevor Lawrence some balance. So let's go 829 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,720 Speaker 1: to the positive side in terms of what that offense 830 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: has cooking right now. 831 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're still working through you know, Liam Cohen 832 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 2: being there as a new coach, putting in base a 833 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 2: brand new system, and I think that you know, and 834 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, you know, it's funny. We were laughing earlier 835 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 2: about you know, I was saying that quarterbacks are very 836 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,720 Speaker 2: fewer transcendent and certainly Lawrence got nailed with that Moniker 837 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 2: coming out of college generational, which of course is ridiculous, 838 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 2: but you know, he's turned out in the NFL to 839 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 2: be a guy that if you have a run game, 840 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 2: if you have a quality team, he can function effectively 841 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 2: and he can make throws. And I think they're working 842 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 2: toward that, but they do need the run game to 843 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 2: be effective. And this offense is different. There's more motion, 844 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 2: that's what Liam Cohen wants. There's more motion. There's different 845 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 2: kinds of splits than Trevor Lawrence is used to. All 846 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 2: this takes time. It becomes a work in progress. So 847 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 2: there's good plays and there's not so good plays, and 848 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 2: that's what happens, and coaches keep working through that. I think, 849 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 2: to me, the story in this game, though, more is 850 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 2: what's going on with the Texans offense. That's been a 851 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 2: little bit of a problem through two games. And you know, 852 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 2: the kinds of things that stand out to me are 853 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 2: they haven't been able to run the ball at all, 854 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 2: and their old line has still not quite become what 855 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 2: they hoped. It's kind of totally revamped right now. And Stroud, 856 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 2: you know, it's funny. Stroud is a very good throw 857 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 2: over the football, but he's at his core a pocket quarterback. 858 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 2: He's not a statue, but he's a pocket quarterback. So 859 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 2: when you're a pocket quarterback. Two things have to happen 860 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 2: for you to be consistent. You have to be sharp 861 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 2: mentally with your reads and you have to be sharp 862 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 2: physically with your precise ball location, which his rookie season 863 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 2: it looked like, Wow, this guy can be like that. 864 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 2: He hasn't been quite the same the last two years. 865 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 2: Some of it's a function of the old line play 866 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,839 Speaker 2: where he's got to get used to the fact that 867 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 2: everything's not going to be a clean pocket. But it's 868 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 2: not all his fault. Clearly the old line has not 869 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 2: been at its best. But he's going to have to 870 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 2: figure that out because you know what, sometimes in the 871 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 2: NFL you don't have a clean pocket. It's just the 872 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 2: way the league is. But they're going to have to 873 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 2: find a way to have a run game because pocket 874 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 2: quarterbacks tend to need run games. 875 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, we look at last week. I mean, they had 876 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: the big run from Chubb that I guess we debate 877 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: whether they allowed him to score or not because right 878 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: he was bottled up and then Tampa gets the ball 879 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: back and then makes their big push and that celebration 880 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,919 Speaker 1: of Baker Mayfield that we did all week really went 881 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: to that next level. But we'll stay with Houston for 882 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: a second. Right, we talked about the five guys up front. 883 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: Tunsel goes to the commanders and you change it. That's 884 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,800 Speaker 1: never gonna be the same. I mean, how many teams 885 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: survive weeks one through three with the same starting five, 886 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: let alone getting through a complete season and in his 887 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: receiving core at least to this point, Greg, it looks 888 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 1: like he's got Nico Collins and not a whole lot 889 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: of support. 890 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,399 Speaker 2: Well, it's got some young guys. I really like Jayden 891 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 2: Higgins coming out of Iowa State, and we'll see how 892 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,359 Speaker 2: he develops. They've got the other Iowa State kid two 893 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,399 Speaker 2: Jal and No, so we'll see again the development there. 894 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 2: You know, Hutchinson is a kid that came out of college. 895 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 2: Think he's Iowa State as well, and he came in 896 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 2: a few years ago. Yeah, there you go. 897 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: And Pipeline Texas. 898 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 2: That's right. They probably have a scout that just you 899 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 2: know sits at Iowa State has an office there. 900 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: Maybe three guys, that's right, that's right. 901 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 2: And he's you know, he's a possession type guy. Not 902 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 2: a lot of juice to him, but he can catch 903 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 2: the ball and work underneath. So I think they're trying 904 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 2: to figure that out as well, with new receivers and 905 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 2: an old line that's been you know, to be kind 906 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 2: very up and down. So it's just hard when you 907 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 2: cannot run the ball. It's just it makes offense difficult 908 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 2: to play, particularly for quarterbacks like Stroud, who don't give 909 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,839 Speaker 2: you that extra playmaking dimension because like I said, well 910 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 2: he's not a statue, he's not a playmaker. He's not 911 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 2: that kind of guy. So you know, he needs to 912 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 2: feel comfortable in the pocket. He needs to develop that 913 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 2: sense of Okay, I do have to deal with pressure, 914 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 2: but I've still got to make throws. So that'll be 915 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 2: a little bit of a work in progress. 916 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 1: Hey, this isn't just a game, it's once in a 917 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: generation event. Harlem Globetrotter's one hundred year Tour. Come be 918 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: a part of a legacy that never stops. Be there 919 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 1: when history is made. The Harlem Globetrotters one hundred Year Tour. 920 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: Get your tickets today at Harlem Globetrotters dot com. Now 921 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:24,399 Speaker 1: let's transition to the NFC. West gannon in Company rising up. 922 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: But he's got good old Alabama Mac on the other side. 923 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 2: Pierceol born in tongue is right. 924 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: Jennings left my carefit to elect of Jones. 925 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 2: Quicks now from the gun for sure coming bro whine, 926 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,439 Speaker 2: open your one, Jenny's open field twenty five fifty, He's 927 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 2: gone fun touchdown. 928 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 1: Forty nine ers. I'm gonna guess that's forty nine ers 929 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: radio No, no. 930 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 2: Well, fuck gave you the clue. Don't you love these 931 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 2: these radio guys. I've gotten to know some of these 932 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 2: guys over the years. They are the absolute best. You 933 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 2: gotta love these guys. 934 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for that big moment, right yeah, punge, CounterPunch, 935 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: a little jab and then oh we got this big 936 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: explosive play for Mac Jones, a guy that, let's call 937 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 1: it what it is, was never done a whole lot 938 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 1: of favors during his tenure in New England in those 939 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 1: final years, finds himself in San Francisco, Big spot there 940 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 1: to Jennings for the big pop Greg. One of the 941 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 1: plays from week two that ye stood out to me. 942 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 2: And you know what, it was a great play and 943 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 2: I'm going to just walk through a little of it 944 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 2: really hopefully I can visualize it for people. The Saints 945 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 2: showed man coverage to start that play. They ended up 946 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:41,720 Speaker 2: playing Cover two, but they showed man coverage, and I 947 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 2: personally believe I don't know this for a fact, but 948 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 2: I personally believe that if they stayed with man coverage, 949 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 2: the throw would have been to McCaffrey, who was offset 950 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 2: to the short side of the field and he was 951 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 2: running a wheel route, and they would have had McCaffrey 952 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 2: on the linebacker Pete Werner, and I believe that if 953 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 2: they stayed in man, that's where mac Jones would have looked. 954 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 2: But because they switched at the snap, they changed the picture, 955 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 2: which more and more teams are doing. They went to 956 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 2: cover two, so the wheel route to McCaffrey was no 957 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 2: longer a viable option. And then mac Jones did a 958 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 2: phenomenal job of recognizing the change in coverage and he 959 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 2: hit Jennings on the inbreaker to the same side, actually 960 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 2: in breaker to the same side and the void in 961 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 2: the cover two. I thought that was really outstanding quarterbacking 962 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 2: by mac Jones. 963 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, because the eyes take you with McCaffrey's something you 964 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,879 Speaker 1: and I have talked about a bit, and the expectation 965 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: that his reps as a receiver would go up, and 966 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: he goes to that left core, left sideline and just 967 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 1: starts to curl up, and as he looks back, the 968 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: ball's already gone right and you catch Jennings in stride. 969 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,360 Speaker 2: And McCaffrey knew that the wheel route that was not 970 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 2: going to happen based on the coverage change. But you know, 971 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,320 Speaker 2: Jones was really good on third down in that game. 972 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 2: He was seven for twelve for one twenty one. And 973 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 2: the important point is six of the seven completions resulted 974 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 2: in first downs, and the Niners overall were very good 975 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 2: on third down. Jones is similar stylistically to Brock Purty 976 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 2: in how you run your eyes. So in other words, 977 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan doesn't have to make major changes in his approach. 978 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 2: The bigger issue I think might be, you know, I 979 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,839 Speaker 2: guess used check. I don't know if he's probably out 980 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 2: this week. 981 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 1: I would I think he is out let me. Yeah, 982 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 1: we'll get get a confirmation of that. 983 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. So Hodell ended up playing more with two tight 984 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 2: ends as opposed to two backs, which of course they're 985 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 2: foundationally a two back offense. But we'll see. I mean, 986 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 2: those are you know, these are changes that you have 987 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 2: to make throughout the course of a season. But the 988 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 2: quarterback situation is such that they're they're similar stylistically in 989 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 2: how you can structure your pass game. 990 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 1: Now they're saying he was going to clear concussion protocol, 991 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,439 Speaker 1: so game time decision, but potentially back in the mix 992 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: for them today at least to some degree. So we'll 993 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 1: keep an eye on that as we go. The other 994 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 1: side of the coin, Arizona off to a two and 995 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 1: zero start. Kyler Murray. We've seen the turbo mode, yeah, 996 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: early returns in the past, a little different look to 997 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 1: this squad thus far, Greg getting a little more, Trey 998 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 1: Benson in with James Connor, yeah, and still waiting for 999 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison really to pop, but thus far they're getting 1000 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 1: it all around. Yeah, on both sides of the ball. 1001 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know what's going on with Marvin Harrison. 1002 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 2: That's tough to figure out. But they clearly through the 1003 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 2: draft and just through the fact that Jonathan Gannon is 1004 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 2: a defensive head coach and Nick rosis is the coordinator. 1005 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 2: You know, they're very good on defense there. They're probably 1006 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,879 Speaker 2: better than people think. This is a big test for them. 1007 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 2: They do some really interesting things on the back end, 1008 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,319 Speaker 2: probably a little too detailed to try to map out 1009 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,719 Speaker 2: just talking about it. But they do some really good things, 1010 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,400 Speaker 2: and you know, they're a different kind of defense to 1011 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 2: play against, and that always people don't think about this, 1012 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 2: but that's the a preparation issue for teams that have 1013 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 2: to play them, because not many teams do exactly what 1014 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,080 Speaker 2: they do on the back end. And so now in 1015 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 2: that week of preparation, and it's not as if you 1016 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 2: have three weeks to prepare. You know, you have to 1017 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 2: prepare for some things that you don't normally see from 1018 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,720 Speaker 2: other teams. So that just makes the preparation a little different. 1019 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,280 Speaker 2: Now they're in the same division obviously as the Niners, 1020 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 2: so the Niners are aware of it, and they may 1021 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 2: have you know, prepared for it in the offseason as well, 1022 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,280 Speaker 2: which I'm sure they did. But it's just different. 1023 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:25,399 Speaker 1: As we look at Josh schwet Kalais Campbell, the ageless wonderful. Yeah, 1024 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 1: hey man, whenever these guys are a little longer in 1025 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 1: the tooth, I'm like, one more year, one more year. 1026 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 1: Like I'm not doing all the political thing where folks 1027 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,839 Speaker 1: want their candidate in right. Players to keep going right, 1028 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 1: which is why I need Aaron Rodgers to keep playing well. 1029 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. I know he was all weepy at the 1030 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,360 Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw thing Friday. They couldn't get him on the 1031 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: TV fast enough. It's like, I need him to keep 1032 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 1: playing because I don't feel so old. 1033 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 2: Then Greg, well maybe Aaron Rodgers will you'll reach the 1034 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 2: Georgia blanda stage. But remember George Bland I think, oh absolutely, 1035 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,279 Speaker 2: I think he started a game. What when he was 1036 00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,280 Speaker 2: like forty eight years old. I can't remember exactly, but 1037 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 2: but he was old bye bye. I shouldn't say he 1038 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 2: was old by. 1039 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 1: Football football standards up one of my favorite. 1040 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,919 Speaker 2: Terms for me. He's a young he was a young man, 1041 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 2: you know, but by football standards he was old. 1042 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,360 Speaker 1: There you go, nineteen seventy five AFC Title Game, sixteen 1043 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 1: to ten, Raiders lost to the Steelers. He was forty eight. 1044 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 2: That's what I thought. That's what I thought. Forty eight wow. 1045 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 1: Extra point and a forty one yard field goal in 1046 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:25,320 Speaker 1: that game. 1047 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 2: That's crazy, forty eight years old playing quarterback. How nuts 1048 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 2: is that? 1049 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 1: I don't know. Could Tom Brady come back out and 1050 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 1: quarterback for a couple of teams now because he's. 1051 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 2: Close but well we'll see you know who knows. Maybe 1052 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers will want. 1053 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 1: To do that and just keep bouncing around and see 1054 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 1: how long he can play out the string. I'm all 1055 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 1: for it, all right, we'll continue. We've got more NFL 1056 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: games to go, so much on this slate. That's absolutely juicy. 1057 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: He can Coming up next, I mentioned Matthew Stafford's one 1058 00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 1: of the games of the day. Don't worry, We're not 1059 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 1: going to do two twenty five minutes on the tush push. 1060 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the game inside the game and the 1061 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,320 Speaker 1: quarterback played therein He's Greg co Sell at Greg co 1062 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,840 Speaker 1: cell where you find him in the Twitter verse. You 1063 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 1: find me over at Swollen Dome. Hey, be sure to 1064 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: subscribe to the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Search Fox 1065 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 1: Sports Radio on YouTube. See the best videos from all 1066 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 1: of our shows, and don't stop there. 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Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 1075 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 1076 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 3: listen live. 1077 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday, 1078 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,879 Speaker 1: Mike Carbon, Greg co Sell with you. Thanks for being 1079 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 1: with us. Thanks to Brianna, Thanks to Sam, Thanks to 1080 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,880 Speaker 1: Mark you tagged out all making us sound so pretty 1081 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,799 Speaker 1: off the sound where we're playing on the air. And 1082 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,439 Speaker 1: of course my guy Greg Cosal at Greg Cosal on 1083 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 1: Twitter where you find him. He does the NFL Matchup 1084 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:17,840 Speaker 1: Show weekly, his appearance on Thursday with Colin must view TV. 1085 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:23,719 Speaker 1: There to get yourself really immersed in the picture within 1086 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 1: the picture, is that the way to describe it. I 1087 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 1: think that's probably the way to do it. 1088 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 2: Remember when that was like the coolest thing with television's picture. 1089 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 1: With picture in picture. Yeah, that was. 1090 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,399 Speaker 2: Like going back years. That was like the coolest thing 1091 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 2: when it came out that you could do picture within picture. 1092 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:42,400 Speaker 1: And invariably someone would press the wrong button and what happened. 1093 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, what's upon a time? And now we just 1094 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 1: use chords and we run like nineteen TVs and monitors 1095 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,759 Speaker 1: together so we can get everything we want. 1096 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 2: I remember when the Mike when the VCR came out. 1097 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 1: Believe it or not, I wish I still had some 1098 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 1: of the old video. 1099 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 2: Sets, yeah, or eighty I think in that range, or 1100 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 2: maybe in the early eighties when and I remember going 1101 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 2: to a video store to get, you know, a video, 1102 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 2: you know, the first one, you know, it was the 1103 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,280 Speaker 2: first I remember the first video I ever got. Really 1104 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,240 Speaker 2: what was Easy Rider? 1105 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 1: No kidding? We're going full on Fonda and Hopper? 1106 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and Jack Jack was. 1107 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:26,400 Speaker 1: Jack sure Jack young Jack? Wow yeah Dan j Now 1108 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,880 Speaker 1: we're going way back. See now, I'm gonna add that 1109 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 1: to my list to. 1110 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,080 Speaker 2: I believe Karen Black was in that as well. 1111 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 1: But see digging a little deeper. 1112 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,799 Speaker 2: But if you remember her, I remember Karen Black. 1113 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: But I mean Greg, think think of all of those 1114 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,240 Speaker 1: like it used to be for us one of the things. 1115 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,279 Speaker 1: And we're nerds. We loved our professional wrestling. It was 1116 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 1: what new tape did we get right? It was you know, 1117 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 1: Rowdy Roddy Piper's greatest hits, like volume forty seven. It's like, 1118 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,839 Speaker 1: all right, so a lot of it was cold from 1119 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 1: the first forty six, but damn it, we were. They 1120 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,480 Speaker 1: were getting our rental money on that Friday Night. 1121 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 2: Now do you do you remember Bruno Sam Martino. 1122 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,000 Speaker 1: Now, now we're going back to the generals of the 1123 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,279 Speaker 1: seventies and eighties. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, as like him and 1124 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 1: the Crusher and the Bruiser and Baron von Rashky. 1125 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, and that's going back a few years. 1126 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. I've got a few miles on me, Greg. Yeah, 1127 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 1: we grew up watching that World Class Championship wrestling out 1128 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,799 Speaker 1: of Dallas with the von Erics, the old man Fritz 1129 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 1: van Eric. I mean it all plays together, yeah, Sam 1130 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: Martino and Ernie Ladd, the. 1131 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,320 Speaker 2: Big Ladd who played for the Chargers. 1132 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 1: See it all comes together. 1133 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:32,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1134 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's our little little hook. We'll go through all. 1135 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,360 Speaker 1: We'll go through the rest of the football players turned wrestlers, 1136 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 1: Roman Reigns, Georgia Tech, the Rock over at the U. 1137 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we could do this all day long. Maybe 1138 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 1: that'll be a very special episode of all the the 1139 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 1: x NFL players that became grapplers. 1140 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:52,880 Speaker 2: Or maybe not. 1141 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 1: No, no, I mean, well, the transition to that being 1142 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 1: you know what, Jalen hurts, I'm told squats more than 1143 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,319 Speaker 1: six hundred pounds. 1144 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 2: And there you go. So there you go. 1145 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,319 Speaker 1: Philly hosting the Rams later on today one of the 1146 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 1: heavyweight battles. See not my first radio that we've got here. 1147 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford in company. They've integrated DeVante Adams into the 1148 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 1: offense brilliantly on you look at he and pukin Nakua 1149 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 1: and I think that's where they can make some hay today. 1150 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 1: The second cornerback position for Philly has been an issue 1151 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 1: thus far. 1152 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,480 Speaker 2: Opposite Mitchell, yeah, that's true, and it'll be very interesting 1153 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 2: to see how Philly chooses to play. You know, the 1154 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 2: thing is everybody thinks about Vic Fangio as he plays zone. 1155 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 2: He plays that quarters, that four across on the back end, 1156 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 2: that everything starts there, which is probably foundationally what he does. 1157 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 2: But he doesn't always do that. So it'll be interesting 1158 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 2: because when they played in the playoffs last year, Vic 1159 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 2: played a ton of man coverage and he blitzed a 1160 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 2: good amount, particularly in the second half. Because the one 1161 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 2: thing you cannot let Matthew Stafford be comfortable. You know, 1162 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 2: you can say that about any quarterback, but Matthew Stafford 1163 00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 2: is still one of the best pure throwers in the league, 1164 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 2: always has been, still is, and you know, when you 1165 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 2: talk to coaches in this league. The respect that they 1166 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 2: have for Matthew Stafford is off the charts. 1167 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 1: Well, it's funny. It goes back even I remember during 1168 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,920 Speaker 1: his time in Detroit when he was pretty categorically dismissed 1169 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 1: by a lot of national media. Yes, I couldn't win 1170 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 1: the big, big game, et cetera. He was always your 1171 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:25,200 Speaker 1: favorite quarterback's favorite quarterback, correct, right, right, Aaron Rodgers didn't 1172 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,240 Speaker 1: say a lot of nice things about a lot of guys. 1173 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 1: He couldn't stop talking about how much he loved standing 1174 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 1: and watching Matthew Stafford throw the ball. 1175 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because you know, everybody talked about Mahomes 1176 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,920 Speaker 2: when he came in the league, and deservedly so. He 1177 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,360 Speaker 2: was great right from the start with all those off 1178 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,760 Speaker 2: platform throws. Stafford was doing that before Mahomes. The problem was, 1179 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,200 Speaker 2: as you said, as he played in Detroit, so nobody 1180 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 2: noticed it, you know, or nobody seemed to care. But 1181 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 2: he has always been a great throw over the football. 1182 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 2: He's an incredibly intelligent quarterback. He's tough as as you 1183 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,800 Speaker 2: can be. And we remember his first two years he 1184 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 2: got hurt and people thought he was fragile, and then 1185 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 2: he never missed a game. I guess he had that 1186 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 2: one year where he did get hurt, but other than that, 1187 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:09,360 Speaker 2: he just doesn't miss games. 1188 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of reports and certainly the red injury 1189 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 1: designation has been tagged on a lot of Sundays. But 1190 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 1: we talk about a gamer and a guy that keeps 1191 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:22,919 Speaker 1: getting back up and refusing to to stop. And nowI 1192 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,160 Speaker 1: they're one of the favorites along with these Eagles in 1193 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:30,440 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship odds. If you look at the betting 1194 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 1: odds to things Greg Philadelphia two and zero. All the 1195 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,120 Speaker 1: talk on the touch push will push it aside, no 1196 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,320 Speaker 1: pun intended for a second. The passing game is the 1197 00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 1: thing I'm questioning. How long and how patient do aj 1198 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 1: Brown and DeVante Smith. They can say all the thing 1199 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 1: right things when they're winning, but eventually wide receivers want 1200 00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:53,720 Speaker 1: the football. 1201 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,640 Speaker 2: No question. Just one quick point on the touch push, 1202 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 2: not not the not the play itself. But I think 1203 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 2: what's more important is how often they get into those situations. 1204 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,439 Speaker 2: Mike people seem to forget that. They get into short 1205 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,440 Speaker 2: yardage situations, maybe more than any team in the league, 1206 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 2: and that allows for them to do the tush push. 1207 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 2: So that's something as a defense, you really have to 1208 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 2: think about how you want to defend them because you 1209 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,840 Speaker 2: can't get into these third and one situations, and the 1210 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 2: Eagles seemed to get in those an awful lot. Getting 1211 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,360 Speaker 2: to the passing game, it's I'm trying to figure it out. 1212 01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,440 Speaker 2: I mean it's it's they have a new coordinator in 1213 01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,080 Speaker 2: Kevin Patulo, and he's been there, but still now that 1214 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,480 Speaker 2: you're calling plays and it's your game, that's different and 1215 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,200 Speaker 2: he I think it's a little bit of a work 1216 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,760 Speaker 2: in progress. They're repeating an awful lot of concepts, which 1217 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 2: if they work, that's wonderful. But we'll see how that 1218 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 2: if that continues. I think there's been a number of things. 1219 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 2: There haven't been a lot of clean, defined looks for Jalen, 1220 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,520 Speaker 2: but then sometimes when there are, I thought his eyes 1221 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,880 Speaker 2: at times were in the wrong place. So it's, you know, 1222 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 2: when something's not working. As you know, Mike, it's never 1223 01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,880 Speaker 2: one thing, and you know, fans wanted to be one 1224 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,320 Speaker 2: thing that they can point their finger at and say, oh, 1225 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 2: if we just fixed this, were great. It's never one thing. 1226 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 2: It's it's a number of things that have to do 1227 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:12,280 Speaker 2: with the quarterback, the route concepts, I think the coordinator 1228 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 2: learning on the fly, and the run game hasn't been 1229 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 2: exactly what they had hoped, and maybe that'll happen today 1230 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 2: against a good defense, but a lighter defense up front. 1231 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,600 Speaker 1: I did like what they did in the preemptive. Hey, 1232 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,560 Speaker 1: people are gonna need running backs, so let's go get 1233 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 1: Tank Bigsby now a couple weeks ago. I thought that 1234 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 1: was a nice astutient move, but also showed the confidence 1235 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 1: that Jacksonville had an ETN and tooting the room. Yeah, 1236 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 1: they brought in. 1237 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,919 Speaker 2: I always like Bigsby. I don't know what you thought. 1238 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,400 Speaker 2: I liked it coming out of college. You know, I 1239 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 2: know we had some fumble issues at times, but I'd 1240 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 2: be curious to see, you know, when will Shipley gets healthy, 1241 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,840 Speaker 2: what they decide to do, because I don't think they're 1242 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 2: not going to keep four backs. I don't believe. Maybe 1243 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, you never know what teams do. 1244 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,920 Speaker 2: But I personally like Bigsby better as a player and 1245 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,240 Speaker 2: a runner than AJ Dillon. But I don't how the 1246 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 2: Eagles feel about it. 1247 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,000 Speaker 1: No, and that's it, right, guy battling back from an injury. 1248 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:04,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's far. 1249 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:08,360 Speaker 1: You've seen six attempts twenty nine yards on the ground. 1250 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:13,520 Speaker 1: Thus far, as we look at transition away from that game, 1251 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,880 Speaker 1: we've got so many big ones on the spot. Let's 1252 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,600 Speaker 1: go to a couple of quarterbacks, young guys and trying 1253 01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,400 Speaker 1: to see what we've seen thus far. We've got Atlanta 1254 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 1: and Carolina. Let's hear a little Bryce Young. 1255 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 5: Young the snap thanks to Hubbard quick throw, redbro makes 1256 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 5: the catch for the touchdown man RPO from Bryce to 1257 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 5: Hunter Renfro his second touchdown catch. 1258 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 1: A couple of touchdown catches from Hunter Renfro, three touchdown passes, 1259 01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:47,080 Speaker 1: short red zone operation and efficiency in that failed comeback 1260 01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:51,960 Speaker 1: attempt last week, though some good battle from Canalys's group. 1261 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 1: In this week, they get the Atlanta Falcons and Michael Pennix. 1262 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really like her. I've seen from Pennix up 1263 01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:02,080 Speaker 2: to this point. Decisive. We talk about that, you know, 1264 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,520 Speaker 2: and sometimes decisiveness and this is never talked about. And 1265 01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 2: I'm not sure there's a way to measure this with 1266 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,560 Speaker 2: any kind of metric, you know, which now every website 1267 01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:11,400 Speaker 2: has these metrics. 1268 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 1: Greg, you can make so much money. Figure out the 1269 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 1: metric that's it. Well, how do we get the decisiveness meaner. 1270 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 2: Right. Well, not only that, but the point I was 1271 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:25,200 Speaker 2: going to make was this is sometimes young quarterbacks, and 1272 01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 2: Penix does not have this problem, but sometimes young quarterbacks 1273 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 2: don't have a clear, innate understanding of what's a viable 1274 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:37,280 Speaker 2: throw at the NFL level versus the college level. Because 1275 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,640 Speaker 2: in the college level, receivers tend to be open. Okay, 1276 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 2: so it's not always the open, Yeah, he's open. In 1277 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:47,400 Speaker 2: the NFL, open is different. So a lot of younger 1278 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:51,680 Speaker 2: quarterbacks don't see throws that are viable by NFL standards 1279 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,439 Speaker 2: as legitimate, viable throws to make. And I think that's 1280 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,040 Speaker 2: part of the learning process, and I think Penix innately 1281 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:03,360 Speaker 2: understands that. So he turns it loose. He's decisive, and 1282 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,320 Speaker 2: you rarely see him get stuck in the pocket because 1283 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:07,440 Speaker 2: he will turn it loose. 1284 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we'll see that that offense start to 1285 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 1: make some strides, certainly beyond Jean. You know, he's been ridiculous. 1286 01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,680 Speaker 2: I think you can make the argument. I think I 1287 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,480 Speaker 2: said this last week that overall he's the best back 1288 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:21,120 Speaker 2: in the league. 1289 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's gonna be fun to watch that Atlanta 1290 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,360 Speaker 1: offense start pulling the strings. Now that you have to 1291 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,120 Speaker 1: count on him both as a runner and receiver. 1292 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 2: Oh for sure, so much. Yep, No, they're they're there. 1293 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,400 Speaker 2: I think their offense will just keep getting better and better. 1294 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:40,560 Speaker 1: Big spot here Division game on the road at Carolina. 1295 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,080 Speaker 1: All right, time to take a turn over to the 1296 01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,880 Speaker 1: news desk. We've got a legend in the booth. My guy, 1297 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:51,240 Speaker 1: Isaac Lowanen kron At Isaac lowan Kron Angel CITYFC does 1298 01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,000 Speaker 1: some play by play for the women's soccer league out here. 1299 01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:57,240 Speaker 1: Greg And you want to talk about enthusiasm when we're 1300 01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,680 Speaker 1: talking about these local calls of games for the the NFL, 1301 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 1: they got nothing on my guy Ilo. My voice is 1302 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 1: still horsed for the other day. Thanks so much, Mike 1303 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 1: and Gregor. 1304 01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,760 Speaker 6: Let's run down in the last night's college football Action 1305 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 6: of the top twenty five. Number four Miami over Florida 1306 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,160 Speaker 6: twenty six to seven to improve to four, and oh 1307 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,680 Speaker 6: Hurricanes Helbigators to one hundred and forty one yards of 1308 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:21,080 Speaker 6: total offense. Number nineteen Indiana blew out ninth ranked Illinois 1309 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:25,600 Speaker 6: sixty three to ten. Indiana quarterback Fernando Mendoza twenty one 1310 01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:29,160 Speaker 6: of twenty three for two sixty five five touchdown passes 1311 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,800 Speaker 6: number twenty five. USC improved to four and oh with 1312 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,840 Speaker 6: a forty five thirty one win over Michigan State Trojan 1313 01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,400 Speaker 6: quarterback Jade and Mayava three touchdown passes, two touchdown runs. 1314 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 6: Baseball Saturday night, Seattle's Cal Rawley at his franchise record 1315 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 6: fifty seventh home run and a six to four win 1316 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,200 Speaker 6: at Houston. Mariners lead the Astros by two for first 1317 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 6: place in the American League West. The Arizona Diamondbacks over 1318 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 6: the Phillies four to three. The Diamondbacks two back of 1319 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,560 Speaker 6: the Mets for the final National League wild card spot. 1320 01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,640 Speaker 6: Sho hey Otani is fifty third home run of the 1321 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 6: lost Angelist Dodgers seven to five win over the San 1322 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 6: Francisco Giants. Dodgers' magic number to clench the NL West 1323 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,280 Speaker 6: is down to three. Cleveland swept a doubleheader at Minnesota. 1324 01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,000 Speaker 6: The Guardians on a ten game winning streak. They're one 1325 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 6: back of Detroit for first place in the American League Central, 1326 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,560 Speaker 6: and the Milwaukee Brewers won at Saint Louis and Tenantings 1327 01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 6: three to two. The Brewers magic number to clench the 1328 01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:25,160 Speaker 6: NL Central is down to one. Mike and Greg all yours. 1329 01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Ilo at Isaac Lohencron check out his 1330 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,320 Speaker 1: highlights from the Angels City Call from the other night. 1331 01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 1: Couple of quick notes here, Mendoza after that huge game 1332 01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,640 Speaker 1: for Indiana, all the vaults, all the way up to 1333 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,040 Speaker 1: the number two slot in terms of your Heisman favorites 1334 01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 1: behind Matier. And then Raleigh with that home run. It 1335 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:48,960 Speaker 1: was caught by the bullpen catcher who returned to him 1336 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,920 Speaker 1: promptly in the post game. And then Mike Trout hit 1337 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,840 Speaker 1: his four hundredth career home run and the fan that 1338 01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:56,600 Speaker 1: got it. All he wanted was to hang out and 1339 01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 1: have a little catch on the field. There you go. 1340 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,280 Speaker 1: Random notes that may interest well only me. But as 1341 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:08,000 Speaker 1: we continue National Football League and we'll get to that 1342 01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:09,960 Speaker 1: in a second. Is it just a game, it's a 1343 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:14,000 Speaker 1: generational event. Harlem Globe Trotters are on their one hundred 1344 01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,760 Speaker 1: year tour, So come out be part of the legacy 1345 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,600 Speaker 1: that never stops. Be there when history's made. Harlem Globetrotters 1346 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,960 Speaker 1: one hundred year Tour. Get your tickets now today at 1347 01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:28,120 Speaker 1: Harlem Globetrotters dot com. Now we obliquely brought in the 1348 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,960 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes into the conversation. An 1349 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,200 Speaker 1: offense still trying to find his stride, its stride, no 1350 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,680 Speaker 1: question about it. Run game outside of Patrick Mahomes has 1351 01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:42,600 Speaker 1: been lacking, waiting for those pass catchers. Just saw the highlight. 1352 01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:48,280 Speaker 1: Worthy's gonna miss today's game, Greg Kelsey. Back to back 1353 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:52,160 Speaker 1: weeks with huge gaps in the red zone and Mahomes 1354 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,640 Speaker 1: has had shots downfield, just the timings not there, falling 1355 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,280 Speaker 1: harmlessly incomplete for opposing ds. 1356 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is their pass offense is really I don't 1357 01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,360 Speaker 2: know what it is right now. There's really no intermediate 1358 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:09,360 Speaker 2: passing game. Mahomes does not throw the ball to the 1359 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 2: outside very often at all. Less he's taking a vertical shot, 1360 01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,040 Speaker 2: so they don't really work that part of the field. Now. 1361 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,680 Speaker 2: He's more than capable, obviously, of making any throw. He's 1362 01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,599 Speaker 2: a ridiculously talented thrower of the football. But they don't 1363 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:25,479 Speaker 2: seem to work outside very much. You know, it's funny 1364 01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:29,960 Speaker 2: you mentioned the Kelsey. I looked at that interception by 1365 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,920 Speaker 2: Macooba twenty times, and I watched that tape and I 1366 01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,479 Speaker 2: couldn't figure out And I'm sure a coach could tell 1367 01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,479 Speaker 2: me whether Mahomes threw it a little, you know, just 1368 01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:43,040 Speaker 2: that hair too early or whether the Kelsey didn't get 1369 01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,760 Speaker 2: his head around quick enough because he was the throw 1370 01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,519 Speaker 2: got on him way too quick. So I don't know who, 1371 01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,280 Speaker 2: I don't know what happened. And like I said, I 1372 01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:55,000 Speaker 2: looked at it so many times. But you know, they 1373 01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:57,679 Speaker 2: score there, they probably win the game, but their pass 1374 01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:01,280 Speaker 2: offense is really non existent. In fact, Mahomes dropping back 1375 01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,880 Speaker 2: and then scrambling has really been more of their pass 1376 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:05,839 Speaker 2: offense than the passing game itself. 1377 01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been an interesting slog through two weeks now 1378 01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,559 Speaker 1: they're on the road at the Giants. We watch them 1379 01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,639 Speaker 1: in that crazy shootout with the Cowboys a week ago. 1380 01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:20,800 Speaker 1: Wandell Robinson through two weeks eight eighteen targets getting a 1381 01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,600 Speaker 1: heavy workload alongside Malik Neighbors, who in year two is 1382 01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,519 Speaker 1: just special on a whole other way. But you know, 1383 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:29,559 Speaker 1: the player of the game had to be Cam Scatamo. 1384 01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,920 Speaker 1: I mean, not only does therop Brian Dable pressers, but 1385 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:37,880 Speaker 1: you know that bulldozer coming from college as a rookie, 1386 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,280 Speaker 1: given a little extra balance for Russell Wilson's offense. 1387 01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,840 Speaker 2: You know, it's one of those games where you watch 1388 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,720 Speaker 2: and you know I try to figure out. You know, 1389 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,439 Speaker 2: sometimes I can, I know based on just my knowledge. 1390 01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:53,040 Speaker 2: But how if you're the Cowboys, can you let so 1391 01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,680 Speaker 2: many receivers get over the top of you. I mean, 1392 01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:59,160 Speaker 2: that's the number one thing that defensive coaches talk about, 1393 01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:03,360 Speaker 2: you know, don't give up explosive plays. And it was 1394 01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,479 Speaker 2: just it was almost hard to watch. But Neighbors is 1395 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,000 Speaker 2: really really good. I know. There are a lot of 1396 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,000 Speaker 2: people and I was not in that group, and so 1397 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:13,880 Speaker 2: far it's played out where I've been wrong. Up to 1398 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,800 Speaker 2: this point. A lot of people thought Neighbors was the 1399 01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:20,040 Speaker 2: best receiving prospect in that draft class, better than Marvin Harrison, 1400 01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,920 Speaker 2: and up to this point it's played out that way. 1401 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:30,720 Speaker 2: He's terrific. He's he maybe stylistically the closest thing for 1402 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:35,400 Speaker 2: a young receiver to a Jamar Chase type player. Big, strong, physical, 1403 01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,240 Speaker 2: can run and is really good run after catch. You know, 1404 01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:41,920 Speaker 2: I think stylistically there are similarities Neighbors. Only being in 1405 01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,320 Speaker 2: a second year. You don't want to necessarily say, oh, 1406 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,479 Speaker 2: that's who he is, But stylistically I think he's like that. 1407 01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:52,479 Speaker 1: But to your point with Russell Wilson, like everybody jokes 1408 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,679 Speaker 1: about it, but like the one thing he still has 1409 01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,840 Speaker 1: is the ability to throw a deep ball. So how 1410 01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,719 Speaker 1: do you get beat on a deep ball that often? 1411 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,360 Speaker 1: Like that's the yah thing. Like stylistically, yes, it's like 1412 01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,160 Speaker 1: they you know, don't let the ball go over your 1413 01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:07,400 Speaker 1: head as an outfielder, and certainly in coverage that same 1414 01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,760 Speaker 1: thing like that. I don't want to call him a 1415 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,240 Speaker 1: one trick pony. That's not fair. He's a guy that's 1416 01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,519 Speaker 1: had a highly decorated career, but at this point in 1417 01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,559 Speaker 1: his career, like, that's the one thing that we know 1418 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:22,080 Speaker 1: has still been the go to even in struggles in Denver, that. 1419 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:25,200 Speaker 2: He sees and if he sees that the throw is there, 1420 01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:29,800 Speaker 2: he will do that. So yeah, I again, you know, 1421 01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:34,320 Speaker 2: without breaking down plays, you know, somebody had to make 1422 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 2: a mistake somewhere along the line because you just can't 1423 01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:38,960 Speaker 2: let guys get on the top of your defense. 1424 01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:42,599 Speaker 1: And certainly the injuries in that Dallas secondary, Yeah, and 1425 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,240 Speaker 1: the you know that the fact that that Parsons kid 1426 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:49,320 Speaker 1: is playing for Green Bay, uh, certainly does not help, 1427 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,000 Speaker 1: you know, trying to mount a big defensive effort for 1428 01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:57,400 Speaker 1: Matt Eberflus right now again Dallas Chicago later on today 1429 01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:01,160 Speaker 1: you can watch that game with me, live and living 1430 01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,080 Speaker 1: and dying with each and every play. 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I'm me over at 1449 01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:06,600 Speaker 1: Swollen Dome. We'll lock and load Detroit Baltimore. Get your popcorn. 1450 01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,599 Speaker 1: We'll review that game next here on Fox. Get your 1451 01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:14,960 Speaker 1: popcorn ready. Hey, this isn't just a game, so once 1452 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:19,400 Speaker 1: in a generation event, Harlem Globetrotters one hundred year Tour. 1453 01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,240 Speaker 1: Come be part of the legacy that never stops. Be 1454 01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:26,160 Speaker 1: there when history is made, the Harlem Globetrotters one hundred 1455 01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:30,160 Speaker 1: Year Tour. Get your tickets today, Harlem Globetrotters dot Com. 1456 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:34,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Fox Football Sunday here on Fox Sports Radio. 1457 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,400 Speaker 1: Blessed to be with you to get Week three of 1458 01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:41,799 Speaker 1: your National Football League Day started myself alongside Greg Cosell 1459 01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:46,160 Speaker 1: forty six years NFL films, the NFL Matchup Show, get 1460 01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,759 Speaker 1: yourself a little bit of wisdom each and every listen 1461 01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:52,000 Speaker 1: that you get in viewing opportunity there at Greg Coasel 1462 01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:55,400 Speaker 1: where you find him on Twitter. Greg, we got a 1463 01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:59,479 Speaker 1: big one to end Week three, Detroit and Baltimore fifty 1464 01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,960 Speaker 1: two and a half. I guess the rumors of the 1465 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,920 Speaker 1: demise of the Detroit offense were mildly exaggerated. 1466 01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:08,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, this will be a little different game though, remember 1467 01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,000 Speaker 2: they played and again, every year is different, but they 1468 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,240 Speaker 2: were there two years ago when GoF was playing really 1469 01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,879 Speaker 2: well and that offense was really humming, and the Ravens 1470 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,040 Speaker 2: just beat them badly. So this is a tough place 1471 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,920 Speaker 2: to play in a tough road game. I know Mata 1472 01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,760 Speaker 2: Bouquet is out this week. He's a really really good 1473 01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,880 Speaker 2: player on the defensive front for the Ravens, and I 1474 01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,360 Speaker 2: believe Van Noy is out as well, So they're gonna 1475 01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,360 Speaker 2: have to go a little deeper in their depth chart. 1476 01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:35,280 Speaker 2: So maybe they're not going to be able to exert 1477 01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,759 Speaker 2: the kind of pressure that they were able to exert 1478 01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:41,519 Speaker 2: two years ago. But there's no question that this offense 1479 01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:44,200 Speaker 2: for the Lions has a lot of good people. You know, 1480 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,360 Speaker 2: we talk about quarterbacks and GoF is a perfect example 1481 01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,600 Speaker 2: of a guy that is essentially a pocket quarterback in 1482 01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,600 Speaker 2: a really good system, and he's big. See. You know, 1483 01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:57,160 Speaker 2: it's funny a lot we've become used to shorter quarterbacks 1484 01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,640 Speaker 2: now because that's what the college game gives us. But 1485 01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 2: when you when you're six four and two twenty, you 1486 01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,240 Speaker 2: know that that matters at the position. I mean, I've 1487 01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,200 Speaker 2: stood next to a lot of these guys. I've stood 1488 01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,559 Speaker 2: next to the smaller guys, and it's a big deal 1489 01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,000 Speaker 2: when a quarterback is six four six', five and it 1490 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,960 Speaker 2: just makes it at times easier to sit in that 1491 01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,599 Speaker 2: pocket and deliver the football when there are people around. 1492 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,559 Speaker 1: You, yeah every TIME i Watch Rokwan smith play and 1493 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,200 Speaker 1: make another big, play the Little chicago part of me starts. 1494 01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:26,880 Speaker 2: To play back still. 1495 01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,360 Speaker 1: THERE i, mean, well get. 1496 01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,320 Speaker 2: Out you, know he's a really good. PLAYER i, mean. 1497 01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,960 Speaker 2: Obviously you know what's interesting is on their, defense they 1498 01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:36,800 Speaker 2: drafted this, Kid Teddy. BUCHANAN i remember doing him coming 1499 01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:38,799 Speaker 2: out of, college And i'm trying to remember now exactly 1500 01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,400 Speaker 2: where he went to, college But teddybuke's from The West 1501 01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:45,080 Speaker 2: coast for. SURE i just can't remember what. School and you, 1502 01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,200 Speaker 2: KNOW i remember watching his tape AND i didn't love 1503 01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,280 Speaker 2: him on, tape but they really like him because he's. 1504 01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:53,120 Speaker 2: Starting he basically beat Out Trenton, simpson who you, know 1505 01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,000 Speaker 2: was the Big clemson kid came out a few years, 1506 01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,519 Speaker 2: ago who's never really been able to find his way 1507 01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:58,519 Speaker 2: as a starter In. 1508 01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,120 Speaker 1: Baltimore, yeah he is a linebacker out of Cal cal 1509 01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:03,560 Speaker 1: actually throttled. 1510 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,360 Speaker 2: Four guys who were. Drafted that's. Right they had four 1511 01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,920 Speaker 2: guys who were, drafted and a couple of them are really. 1512 01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,559 Speaker 1: Starting you could have used them yesterday as they got 1513 01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,240 Speaker 1: boat raced By San Diego state in one of the 1514 01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,040 Speaker 1: late games that, well most folks would have been asleep for. 1515 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:18,320 Speaker 2: WELL i certainly. 1516 01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,240 Speaker 1: Was everyboddy Rich hornberger was on the call of that, 1517 01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:27,760 Speaker 1: one living that one. Up always Celebrate richie's fun in 1518 01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:31,360 Speaker 1: the media circus down there In San diego and the 1519 01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,640 Speaker 1: play by play calls on The baltimore offensive side of. 1520 01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,719 Speaker 1: THINGS i, Mean Grant, delpit you, know had the prediction 1521 01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,760 Speaker 1: of the. Year, now the game didn't quite go according to, 1522 01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:45,000 Speaker 1: plan but when you can average get Him Derrick henry 1523 01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,040 Speaker 1: to eleven carries on twenty three yards where he's basically 1524 01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,320 Speaker 1: just fallen forward right because he's a shade over six feet. 1525 01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,720 Speaker 1: Tall if you can get that to happen, There, GREG i, 1526 01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:55,760 Speaker 1: mean you at least take the moral. VICTORY i. 1527 01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,120 Speaker 2: Guess, yeah they played the run, really really, well, obviously 1528 01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,559 Speaker 2: but you, Know Lamar jackson's playing at a really high 1529 01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:06,320 Speaker 2: level throwing the. Football you, know it's. Funny this SUMMER 1530 01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,080 Speaker 2: i went back and watched a ton of. Tape that's 1531 01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:09,360 Speaker 2: WHAT i do in the. SUMMER i go back and 1532 01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,760 Speaker 2: watch a lot from the previous. Year AND i think 1533 01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,719 Speaker 2: the combination Of lamar being really good from the pocket 1534 01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:18,400 Speaker 2: now and What monkin does with the concepts and the 1535 01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:22,559 Speaker 2: schemes is just a really good. Marriage And Lamar jackson 1536 01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,439 Speaker 2: is just one of the most AND i always hate 1537 01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:26,200 Speaker 2: to use this, word but it, fits just one of 1538 01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:30,080 Speaker 2: the most, intuitive instinctive players at the. Position he just 1539 01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,759 Speaker 2: has a way of seeing things that some other people, 1540 01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:37,360 Speaker 2: WON'T i. Think and he's just become a really really 1541 01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:40,360 Speaker 2: good player in every, area and not just an athlete 1542 01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,439 Speaker 2: who can run around and make. Plays he throws the 1543 01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,240 Speaker 2: ball exceptionally. Well right, now. 1544 01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,559 Speaker 1: Time to take a pause and give the Tire Rack 1545 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,080 Speaker 1: play of the. Day let's switch sports for a. 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Rodgers we talked about 1565 01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,479 Speaker 1: the ageless side of. It he's got The New England. 1566 01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:58,400 Speaker 1: PATRIOTS a little bit later on today through two, weeks 1567 01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:01,599 Speaker 1: how would we evaluate if we gave him a grade 1568 01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,880 Speaker 1: on the usual eight TO f curve, Here Greg. 1569 01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:08,559 Speaker 2: Rogers, yeah, OH i don't Think rodgers has been. BAD 1570 01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,479 Speaker 2: i mean the first week there are a lot of 1571 01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:14,120 Speaker 2: really well designed plays that gave him clean reads and 1572 01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:17,519 Speaker 2: he made the. THROWS i didn't think he played poorly Against. 1573 01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:21,040 Speaker 2: Seattle that game was a little different Than week. One, Obviously, 1574 01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:23,640 Speaker 2: seattle even though they were missing some, Players seattle's got 1575 01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,200 Speaker 2: a very good, defense And i'm not sure a lot 1576 01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:28,400 Speaker 2: of people are really talking about. That But i'm not 1577 01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,400 Speaker 2: in the prediction, business So i'm not going to say 1578 01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,240 Speaker 2: what you, know it's going to happen With Aaron. Rodgers 1579 01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:35,800 Speaker 2: but they're not a bad football, team SO i don't think. 1580 01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:38,200 Speaker 2: THAT i don't think that he's going to be in 1581 01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,960 Speaker 2: a situation where he's going to get. Benched they're going 1582 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,960 Speaker 2: to have to find a consistent run game that has. 1583 01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:47,479 Speaker 2: Value the problem they face is their offensive tackles young 1584 01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:50,200 Speaker 2: players who need to get better and. Better the left 1585 01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,519 Speaker 2: Tackle jones has really not lived up to his first round. 1586 01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:55,920 Speaker 2: Billing he's really not a very good one on one pass. 1587 01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:59,920 Speaker 1: Protector last one really. Quick we've got The raiders at washing. 1588 01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,840 Speaker 1: Him still wondering Why Gino smith threw that fourth, ball 1589 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:07,160 Speaker 1: fourth down pass out of. Bounds, yeah he's still confusing to. 1590 01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:11,080 Speaker 1: Me but then we Got Marcus. Mariota the issue. 1591 01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,160 Speaker 2: Here the issue is The raiders have to figure out 1592 01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:14,920 Speaker 2: a way to run the. Ball they Drafted genty with 1593 01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,320 Speaker 2: the idea that he'd be a foundation, back and it 1594 01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:18,320 Speaker 2: hasn't happened through two. 1595 01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:22,080 Speaker 1: Games Chip kelly told me it's load, management which MEANS 1596 01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,599 Speaker 1: i think we see him thirty five times. Today greg, 1597 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:29,519 Speaker 1: fantastic two, hours go hydrate as we get ready for. 1598 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:30,600 Speaker 1: KICKOFF i appreciate. 1599 01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,439 Speaker 2: You appreciate. It mike another time day. 1600 01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,880 Speaker 1: Again next week Count down To kickoff presented by BET 1601 01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,080 Speaker 1: Mgm next On Fox Sports radio