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Speaker 1: fm to get started. What is Up? Mets fans? Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to episode number ninety of the Mets Up Podcast

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Speaker 1: presented by the seven Line. We have a great series

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Speaker 1: to talk about where we beat the Philadelphia Phillies in

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Speaker 1: some super dramatic fashion. Got started off this series on

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Speaker 1: an absolute high. Then we had some off days, then

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Speaker 1: we had a double header. We got a lot to

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Speaker 1: talk about here. As you guys know, we always going

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Speaker 1: James at Draftneckmark at Jeter had no range, Let's bring

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Speaker 1: in James on the road again. What's up there, James?

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Speaker 1: What's up man? Yeah, I am on the road. Sister's

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Speaker 1: college graduation today. It just came from there. Big day

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Speaker 1: for all the families. You have the graduation, you have

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Speaker 1: mother's days. A lot going on this weekend along with

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Speaker 2: Grandma's in the room next door right now in the hotel.

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Speaker 2: She's listening to this by proxy. And also fun coming

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Speaker 2: my sister's friends because they were some of the first

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Speaker 2: I will have you know, I gotta say, what was

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Speaker 2: that picture you sent me in the bar with our logo.

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Speaker 1: That was interesting. Yeah, I put that on her Instagram stories.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was cool.

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Speaker 2: But one of my sister's best friends, I'll shout out

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Speaker 2: first name, not gonna doctor, Tasha.

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Speaker 1: Lovely Young, lovely, lovely young lady. She's a fantastically talented artist.

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Speaker 1: I just she all these girls have the mets up

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Speaker 2: They put mess up stickers on their phones like that's

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Speaker 2: part of the craze. That's it's a trend sweeping this nation.

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Speaker 2: So we were just like in a bar, like hanging

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Speaker 1: Mets up on the Instagram. But of course, the story

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Speaker 1: another one in which we won. The Mets have still

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Speaker 1: And like we said, down a lot early. And the

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Speaker 2: Now the last two years, I've been telling all you

431
00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,360
Speaker 2: Mets fans out there that Brandon was really, really good.

432
00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,840
Speaker 2: I can't wait for him to do it. I love

433
00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,680
Speaker 2: that we still have the joke that he's a fourth outfielder.

434
00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,040
Speaker 2: But he just very skillful. Sat on the Cory Kanniebel curveball,

435
00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,560
Speaker 2: because that's Corey Kannebel's outpitch. He throws it almost as

436
00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,879
Speaker 2: much as any other curveball and baseball, and he just

437
00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,680
Speaker 2: went right in it back up the box, perfect one

438
00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,320
Speaker 2: hopper to the center field or Odubal Herrero who has

439
00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,320
Speaker 2: no arm. We pinched ran Travis Jankowski for JD. Davis,

440
00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,320
Speaker 2: which I noticed, like the obvious move to make, but

441
00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,359
Speaker 2: I guess maybe not every manager would make it. So

442
00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,440
Speaker 2: Patt in the back for Buck for using his bench there,

443
00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,080
Speaker 2: like we told him over again, use your bench, use

444
00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:23,520
Speaker 2: your bench.

445
00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,520
Speaker 1: Jankowski scored by two steps.

446
00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,320
Speaker 2: Because again Oduba Herrera has nowble for an arm and

447
00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,000
Speaker 2: suddenly this game was tied and I couldn't even believe

448
00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:30,560
Speaker 2: what was happening.

449
00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:31,760
Speaker 1: I was sweating. I was wearing a.

450
00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,200
Speaker 2: Great T shirt that night because I was just at

451
00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,119
Speaker 2: my parents' house. Don't have much options there, and I

452
00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,080
Speaker 2: had pit stains from sitting on my couch all night.

453
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, pandemonium. I wasn't watching the inning, like I said,

454
00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,720
Speaker 1: and I was sweating. I was sweating waiting for updates

455
00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,720
Speaker 1: from Twitter, waiting for the little notification seven to seven,

456
00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,840
Speaker 1: whatever it was. I mean, I felt so great when

457
00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,439
Speaker 1: I saw the mess up notifacation come through. On the

458
00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,720
Speaker 1: next set bat, which was Starling Marte, who have a

459
00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,600
Speaker 1: day Starling. We called out the middle of the order,

460
00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,320
Speaker 1: the top five guys for not hitting, and they all

461
00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,520
Speaker 1: seem to have it and they've been hot. They've been

462
00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,200
Speaker 1: hitting the ball well and Starring Marte three hit game

463
00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,080
Speaker 1: here to start off the series, and this was such

464
00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,840
Speaker 1: a big double off the wall. I don't stupid dimensions

465
00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,320
Speaker 1: out in center field for Philly, but an absolute piss

466
00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,440
Speaker 1: rocket to center field. Oh so, this was just dead

467
00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,880
Speaker 1: ball city. This ball should have been out by fourteen rows.

468
00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,920
Speaker 1: They couldn't. I couldn't even believe myself when that ball state,

469
00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,840
Speaker 1: and even Startling Marte couldn't believe when that ball stayed.

470
00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,320
Speaker 1: Then also, second hit of the inning. You never see that.

471
00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,000
Speaker 1: Two hits one inning. I love that.

472
00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,760
Speaker 2: That's just one of those cool little baseball things you

473
00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,760
Speaker 2: see here and there. And I want to just mention

474
00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:27,199
Speaker 2: something else.

475
00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,000
Speaker 1: I want to shout out the Phillies radio announcers because

476
00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,760
Speaker 1: after that Starling Marte double, they had just seen their

477
00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,600
Speaker 1: team blow a six run lead in the ninth inning

478
00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,360
Speaker 1: to give up seven runs to be losing a game

479
00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,399
Speaker 1: against their bill of rivals, the Mets, and it's a

480
00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,879
Speaker 1: team that's been had their ass so far this season.

481
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Speaker 1: The Philly announcers did not speak for twenty five entire

482
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Speaker 1: seconds after this. I found this onmob dot TV. Someone

483
00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,320
Speaker 1: told me about it than Twitter, and I went back

484
00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,080
Speaker 1: and find it. I tried so hard, guys, I tried

485
00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,280
Speaker 1: so hard to make a video to rip this audio,

486
00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,960
Speaker 1: but MLBtv just does not let you do it. I

487
00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,000
Speaker 1: was underneath my covers with my microphone trying to get

488
00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,920
Speaker 1: I had to play out and play through on quick

489
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,280
Speaker 1: Time to download into into my movie player to try

490
00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,760
Speaker 1: and overlay it with the game visuals from SNY or

491
00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,320
Speaker 1: Fox Sports probably used their broadcast. It didn't work, But

492
00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,320
Speaker 1: if you want to even do it, just go back.

493
00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,320
Speaker 1: It was like the three hour ten minute mark. Go

494
00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,080
Speaker 1: the MLB dot TV calendar. Twenty five seconds these two

495
00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,320
Speaker 1: guys sat in silence on a radio broadcast. You wouldn't

496
00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,720
Speaker 1: believe it if you're watching the video. I'm smiling ear

497
00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,720
Speaker 1: to year. This is just this is like, this makes

498
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,879
Speaker 1: me feel warm and good inside that people from Philadelphia

499
00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,080
Speaker 1: are miserable because this was a gut punch. This was

500
00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,720
Speaker 1: a gut punch and then ripped out their heart and

501
00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,840
Speaker 1: then stomped on it and then also kind of threw

502
00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,359
Speaker 1: it in the garbage and threw it down the sewer

503
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,440
Speaker 1: like it was. This was a disrespectful way to come

504
00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,280
Speaker 1: back the Mets the way the Mets did it the

505
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 1: ninth inning, we're down to two outs. I mean, this

506
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 1: game should have been over and to see this awful

507
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,359
Speaker 1: Phillies bullpen that we talked about all year, and the

508
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,320
Speaker 1: awful defense and just everything kind of culminate in the

509
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,800
Speaker 1: ninth inning. It was. It was so perfect. It was

510
00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,879
Speaker 1: absolutely amazing to see it all come together, definitely, And

511
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 1: the icing on the cake here was that Edwin Diaz

512
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 1: had just the easiest, simplest night thing I've ever seen.

513
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,640
Speaker 2: Made Phillies hitters look bad. He struck the Mets were

514
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 2: feeling themselves so bad, and the Phillies were so dejected

515
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,399
Speaker 2: that he struck Reeze Hoskins out and a hanging slider

516
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 2: he was soly backed up it had armside action. I

517
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 2: sat right in the middle of the plate spinning and

518
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,679
Speaker 2: Reez hobusely just swung right through it.

519
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 1: He's so He's horrible. He's struggled so much. Right now,

520
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,359
Speaker 1: I love it. He's one of my least favorite players

521
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 1: of all time because I this stupid, little fucking home

522
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 1: run thing that he does drives me insane. What a

523
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,880
Speaker 1: loser and he was a loser that day. Phillies lose,

524
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 1: Mets win one of the biggest comebacks in Mets history.

525
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 1: And I mean, you would have thought the Mets won

526
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,439
Speaker 1: the World Series after this one. To be fair on Twitter,

527
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 1: but everyone was having a absolute time of it. This

528
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 1: was it. I mean, we did the Twitter spaces after

529
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 1: the game. That was tons and tons of fun.

530
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 2: We had Mets fans going crazy, we had Phillies fans

531
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,439
Speaker 2: crying like it was just a wonderful mix. But the

532
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 2: most clear rather came out of this was that this

533
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 2: is something that usually happens to the Mets, not for

534
00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 2: the Mets, And it was kind of this idea that

535
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,400
Speaker 2: the Mets were exercising demons with this game happening, especially

536
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,679
Speaker 2: this century, like the Mets just hadn't done things like this.

537
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 2: And I went back on Baseball Reference and figure out

538
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 2: that this was actually the mets third most unlikely comeback

539
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 2: win the history of their franchise, the most unlikely being

540
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,120
Speaker 2: a nineteen seventy two game against the Houston Astros in Houston.

541
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,120
Speaker 2: They were down eight to nothing in the seventh won

542
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 2: the game eleven eight. Jerry Kouzman started this game for

543
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 2: the Mets. That's how long ago it was, and the

544
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,159
Speaker 2: next biggest comeback in the game at the time, the

545
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 2: Met's biggest ninth thendn't comeback in their history. A nineteen

546
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 2: ninety seven home game against the Montreal Expos. They were

547
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 2: down six to nothing in the ninth and one nine

548
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 2: to six, So that team doesn't even exist anymore. These

549
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 2: are the only two Mets comebacks comparable of this one, and.

550
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,199
Speaker 1: We just watched it happen. Yeah, the parallels to the

551
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 1: Diaz Mickey Callaway twenty nineteen game against Washington were unmatched.

552
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 1: It felt like, almost exactly to a t what happened

553
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: to us, except we're on the flip side. Even cooler.

554
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 1: We're the road team here, we're the road team. We

555
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,239
Speaker 1: got to do this in Philadelphia. How great was it

556
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 1: to watch the Philly the S and Y broadcast show

557
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: all the Philly fans and that stayed in the stands.

558
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 1: You would have thought that someone in their family had

559
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 1: just passed away. That they're their reaction. They were just somber,

560
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: they were upset, and it's just it's it's so great.

561
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: It's so great. I hate Philly so much.

562
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 2: I also loved all the shots of the Mets fans

563
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 2: like very coyly celebrating and like, ah be like I

564
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 2: don't know how much to celebrates. I't I can't believe

565
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 2: that just happened one and too. I think someone's gonna

566
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 2: hit me in the face. But like I'm sitting here,

567
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: just stupefi even all the credit in the world any

568
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 2: Mets fan who is in Philadelphia for this game and

569
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 2: stuck around that, Yes, you're in Philly and you're down

570
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 2: seven nothing in the fourth inning and you stay there

571
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 2: for two more hours in a miserable may evening.

572
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 1: Just all the credit in the world to you, man.

573
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 1: And you know, for the first two and a half

574
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:44,880
Speaker 1: three hours of that game, it was non stop, Go Birds,

575
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 1: go whatever. The stupid shit Philadelphia people say, she's taking

576
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: any city, it's not Philadelphia, it's not exclusive. The Philly

577
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 1: cheeses are really good. They're fine. They're delicious. Tony Luke,

578
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: that's a good one. If you eat Pat and Ginos,

579
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: you're an animal. Cheese whiz are you crazy? Shout out.

580
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: Jim's Gym's is a good one too. They've I've heard

581
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 1: lots of good things about them. That's the only good

582
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: thing in Philly though. That was a great win. That

583
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: was devastating, and I was so ready. I was so

584
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: ready for the next day, because how do you come

585
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: back and play that next game? The way they were

586
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 1: that the air was sucked out of that stadium. The

587
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: team was just absolutely devastated. They they were uncompetitive in

588
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: the ninth inning they did, they were like, let's go home.

589
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: We lost. That's it quit in one run game. In

590
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: one run game at home with the heart of their

591
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 1: lineup coming up. It would have been so great to

592
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: get that next day and play another game, but the

593
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 1: rain that came from Chicago would not stop. No.

594
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 2: And also that next day was said to be max

595
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: chers around the mound, So after getting just your teeth

596
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: knocked out the night before, you would have to face

597
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 2: one of the five three best pitchers in all of

598
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 2: baseball stare them in the face on a miserable cold

599
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 2: Friday evening.

600
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: But could not get so lucky.

601
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 2: And it just became like the worst blue balls ever

602
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 2: because on Saturday was rained out again and the Mets

603
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 2: had to wait two days after this monster comeback before

604
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 2: playing a twin bill on Sunday, Mother's Day.

605
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 1: Mother's Day, twin Bill, shout out all the mother's out

606
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 1: there again. Yeah, shout out to the mother's. Happy Mother's Day.

607
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: To everybody out there, if there's a mom's listening, shout

608
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: out to you, but I will say I love Mother's Day.

609
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: I love the Mother's Day games because I love the

610
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: pink bats. I love all the pink equipment. I think

611
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: it looks sick. I put out a tweet today. It

612
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: was an easy banger, it was low hanging fruit. But

613
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,239
Speaker 1: I stand by it. Why does Major League Baseball not

614
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 1: let players just use custom colored bats with custom designs

615
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: all year long? The pink bats look so sick. Imagine

616
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: if the Mets had blue and orange bats. If Starring

617
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 1: Marte walked up with a bright orange bat, Francisco Lindoor

618
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: had a neon blue bat, or they had like blue

619
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: and orange stripes, that'd be so sick. And that's such

620
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: an easy thing to allow. It doesn't change anything with

621
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: the game. It makes it cooler. It makes it something

622
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: that you can get more tweets about and people will

623
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: be like, Ooh, look at this bat. Look how cool

624
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: it is. The pink bats, though they are killer. Everything

625
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: they do on Mother's Day, besides the gray hats, is

626
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: an absolute w The only thing I can say about

627
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: the bats being something that em be want to normalize

628
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: is I bet that the pictures wouldn't love neon bats

629
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, Like, I can understand how like

630
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: a fluorescent back would be distracting to a picture on

631
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: the mound. I just like seeing that like waggling like

632
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: behind it hitter's head, you kind of lose focus on

633
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: the strike. So I'm not saying that I know that

634
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: for sure.

635
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's actually some stupid legal licensing situation with

636
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 2: between Mizuno and Louisville Slugger and all these back companies

637
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 2: that they have deals with MLB to be a certain way.

638
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: But I could see because I know that's the thing

639
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 1: with isn't that thing with white cleats? Uh No, you

640
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: can wear white cleats. That's I feel like it isn't

641
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: like a stupid unwritten rule that guys shouldn't wear them. Well,

642
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: I think the US, at least, I was about to say.

643
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: The unwritten rule I think is more so towards pictures,

644
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: and it's more so about white on your glove. That

645
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: you're not really supposed to have any light color on

646
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 1: your glove, which is why when you think about it,

647
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: most pictures rock with like the black or the brown,

648
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: or you now start to see like the blue or

649
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: the teal, like those are a little different. Yeah, But

650
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: that's the only thing I can see. I don't know.

651
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: I agree with you that should be be a cool

652
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: way to add more flair to the game, but I

653
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't have a good reason. Yeah, no,

654
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody does. In Game two, now that

655
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: you think now that we talked about and I remembered

656
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: that there was a delay, it probably is why Max

657
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: Scherzer maybe wasn't as sharp as he had been all year.

658
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: Delay in the start now delay in this game. Yeah,

659
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: No, no delay in the start in that he got, you know,

660
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: pushed back two days, so he was really on what

661
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: like six or seven days rest now a full week

662
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: in between starts, because the last time he pitched was

663
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: Sunday night baseball last week against these Phillies when we

664
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: were there. Yeah, which, and we've known with Jacob de

665
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 1: grim on the past, these guys like to stay on

666
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: a rhythm, especially Max Scherzer, who's very meticulous about his

667
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 1: off days and everything he's been doing. It's been doing

668
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: it for what fourteen to fifteen years now. I'm sure

669
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: the extra couple days off, while it's not a bad thing,

670
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: definitely threw him off his schedule a little bit and

671
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: you kind of felt that in the first sitting a

672
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: little bit too. Yeah, he just very clearly was not

673
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: sharp in this one, Like the first pitch of the

674
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: game to kyleeg Shwarber, which I also thought the Phillies,

675
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: who hadn't been hitting Shorba leadoff, cond just threw him

676
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: lead off because he just hit the two home runs

677
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: against sharser first.

678
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: Sure, some jojiard the gamesmanship, his classic baseball guy stuff,

679
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 2: but the first pitch of the game. First of all,

680
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 2: Shirzer threw a curveball first pitch of the game, which

681
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 2: that's not something I really remember sures are doing very.

682
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: Often, And it was just like he completely just missed it.

683
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: It was like a spinner that stayed high and a

684
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: way to kyleege Warber, like miss in two different places.

685
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: Like James mccannon.

686
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 2: Also interesting, this is the first time all you, James

687
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: McCann caught Max Shares are a storyline that we should

688
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 2: be watching a season unfold.

689
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: But I mean, to James McCann's credit, it's very small,

690
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,959
Speaker 1: and we've me and you have both said the framing

691
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: numbers are nonsense. They're fake numbers. It's not really a

692
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: real thing. But James McCann right now is ninety six

693
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: percentile and framing among catchers in Major League Baseball for

694
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: a guy who we were told cannot frame. So I

695
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: just want to say that because that's at least one

696
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: thing he can wear proudly right now.

697
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,239
Speaker 2: Sure, again, I don't know how many people even told

698
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 2: you that at the end of the day. Maybe it's

699
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 2: just like it was like Joe and Bob and random

700
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: nonsense fourteen year olds on Twitter. But sure, yeah, we

701
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 2: can hang our hats on that. But the first pitch

702
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 2: of the game was basically a hanger the Schwarber that

703
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 2: he sures it was just lucky that missed outside as

704
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 2: well as high, else it would have been in the stands.

705
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,239
Speaker 2: And then not soon thereafter, Price Harbor did put one

706
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: in the stands after Shurezer went down two to oh

707
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 2: on him on a four seamer and a changeup that

708
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: just both barely missed that both like those are pitches

709
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 2: that you don't really see Max Scherz are Mitch miss

710
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 2: especially early in the game, and he grooved a fastball

711
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,719
Speaker 2: that James McCann was set up a low and outside

712
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: directly down the middle on two oh and Bryce Harper

713
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 2: sent it like four hundred and ninety five feet away.

714
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a bomba that was absolutely cruise. It

715
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: was crushed and despite the dead balls, you knew that

716
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: one was gone. Yeah, that was honestly, like you kind

717
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: of felt the Phillies get a little bit rejuvenated after

718
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: that awful ninth inning from Thursday, where they're all right,

719
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: we're still a good team, Like that's kind of what.

720
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: That's what you have a player like Bryce harp Broa

721
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 1: on your team before, like he's one of the best

722
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: players in baseball. He showed you why you could pull

723
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 1: all that stuff aside and be like, I can retake

724
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: control the situation as my team and I'm gonna be

725
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: the best player in the field. You know how like

726
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: after you have a big rally, the shutdown inning is

727
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 1: always so big the one that follows up after it.

728
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: It almost felt like a shutdown inning where if Max

729
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: Ers got through that one, two three Phillies would have

730
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: laid down in it would have been over, Yeah, for sure.

731
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: And then after that home run, the Phillies just kind

732
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: of stayed on Shureser Over the next three innings, the second, third,

733
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: and fourth, they had eight total hits in three innings.

734
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: That's just not what Max chers are usually. That's not

735
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: what usually happens to Max Cherzer. And some of them

736
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: were hit hard, but it was mostly just like things

737
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: and doinks and that's just kind of what happens. But

738
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: the end of the day that we're putting the bat

739
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: on the ball a lot, and that is just not

740
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: something we've come to see from Max very often. Now,

741
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: I know you were at graduation so you weren't listening

742
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: to it. But Keith first came back, which is good.

743
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: He's healthy, he's feeling good. So he's back in the booth,

744
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: which was nice. Nice, and he started immediately with the

745
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: old Keith stuff where there was a ground ball hit

746
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: by either Geene Sigura or maybe Alec Bowm, very very

747
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: softly through the second base hole and he's like, you

748
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: just leaving that right side the infield open is crazy.

749
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: He couldn't believe it was beside himself. It's like Keith,

750
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: there's numbers at work, shifting is better. But happy to

751
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: have Keith back in the in the booth, it felt right,

752
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: felt good and uh, glad to see that he's healthy.

753
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, I wouldn't it wouldn't feel normal watching Keith

754
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: or Nanda has not complained about something that's like very

755
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: clearly statistically proven, which is fine, that's okay, Like that's

756
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: his role, that's his job. But after that fourth inning

757
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: did happen Max cheers. It gave up a lead lof

758
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: single in the fifth, So I believe Bryce Harper again,

759
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: who's just again one of the best players in baseball,

760
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: and he retired the last sixty faced to close this

761
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: out and wind up getting through the last two winnings

762
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: and basically twenty pitches getting to sixth inning and one

763
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: only ended up giving up three runs total with seven strikeouts,

764
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: ten hits, which was crazy. But it's just so insane

765
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: that Max schers are and have like an objectively bad

766
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: start and still have a quality start in terms of

767
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: what Major League Baseball gives you for quality start.

768
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: Six innings, pitch three earned with semi strike gots to boot. Yeah.

769
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: I was about to say, like, man, this is bad.

770
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: This is when he's off. It's pretty it's pretty sick

771
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: to be Max Scherzer. Huh.

772
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: And he was very clearly off, like we've seen Max

773
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: Scherza this year, like spread out his pitches a lot, like,

774
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: throw a lot of sliders, change ups, colors. He really

775
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: was only throwing four seam fastballs in this game. Not

776
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: he was only throwing them because he's still mixed up

777
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: and through five different pitches, but it was the only

778
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: pitch he threw, like a lot only pitchy through more

779
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: than twenty times by the end of the start.

780
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: They were also mentioning on the broadcast too that Max

781
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: mentioned the last start which we were at was a cold,

782
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: windy night at City Field, and he just couldn't get

783
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: a fantastic grip on the ball. He didn't feel completely comfortable,

784
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: which is why he was trying to work fast. Was

785
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: because you just wanted to stay hot, they were saying,

786
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: and that he was a little bit I don't want

787
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: to stay worried. But he was like, it's gonna be

788
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: the same thing again, Like, by no means do I actively,

789
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: you know, seek out to pitch in these kinds of

790
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: situations because I just can't have the best feel going

791
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: out into the game. Yeah, and this was a cold,

792
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: windy game again, so the the kind of starts that

793
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: probably won't happen as often once we get to the

794
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: heat of summer, but just it wasn't perfect, and that's

795
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: just what's gonna happen to anybody. And the fact that

796
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: when Max Chezer is uncomfortable and doesn't have it, he

797
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: could pitch six innings, you have three runs and have

798
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: seven strikeouts, Like that's an incredible floor And I'm happy

799
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: he's on our team, Yeah, for sure. And the Mets,

800
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: I mean, like it was only three runs. At the

801
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: end of the day, they were doing the Mets thing

802
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: that we've kind of seen all year, which I guess

803
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: if this is how the Mets are gonna lose, it's

804
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: better than just getting the doors blown off of you.

805
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: But they had chances and they just couldn't get the

806
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: big hits really until like the sixth inning, which was

807
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: when they kind of had their best chance.

808
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this chance was after uh Marte, who were

809
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: talking about heating up this at the time extended Charling

810
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: Marte's hitting streak to six games. That was broken seid

811
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: game this double Heather, but hey, guys in like four

812
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: hundred and to may will take that. He loved off

813
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: the sixth inning with a double, Luis Garramy his single,

814
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: We had first and third, nobody out and James McCann

815
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: coming up and in classic fashion, just hit it all.

816
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: Play killed the rally, hard ground ball to third base.

817
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: Let me tell you that guy sees guys on base

818
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: and he's like, let me get a hard ground ball.

819
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: He love love to pull the ball on the ground.

820
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: And I was like, I was kind of laughing to myself.

821
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, sh had just told him not to swing.

822
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: I saw the stat that went around Twitter, got semi

823
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: viral over the weekend. I said, Byron Buxton has hit.

824
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: I think it was thirty six home runs since his

825
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 2: last double play.

826
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: That's sick.

827
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: I think that there's gonna be a point where maybe

828
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: James McCanns said, thirty six double plays by the next

829
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: by between home runs here, it's crazy, but it's just

830
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: like those are probably the two most opposite players in

831
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: the entire league. But after that double play, now we

832
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: just had two whouts, numbody on. We scratched out another

833
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: run on a Nemo single and door double. Who looks

834
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: like you're swinging the bat a little bit better, and

835
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: then that was all would get the rest of the game.

836
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: We had another chance at the rally the next the

837
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: inning after this, after back to back walks from Pete

838
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: and Warle westco bar but then sar Anthony de Mingez

839
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: struck three guys out in a row. Then Jose al

840
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: Varado blew the Mets away, then Cork Kniebel made mince me.

841
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: The mess is after Kyle Gibson was just annoying as

842
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: hell for six innings and it's we didn't get anything.

843
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: It happens. Yeah, I was kind of, I don't want

844
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: to say bothered, but as hot as Dom was quotation

845
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: marks because he had that you know, break out when

846
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: he was on the verge of being cut apparently, and

847
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 1: then got Robinson Cano cut, which that's fine, that's a bit,

848
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: that's a big win for the Mets anyway. But he's

849
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: he's just back to not really hitting right now, and

850
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: I think, especially with how JD has been swinging it better,

851
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: you kind of just have to give the bat to

852
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: JD now and that DH spot if it's gonna between

853
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: him and Dom, just because Dom's not really winning it,

854
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: like he's not taking this spot which is kind of

855
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: being given, he's not taking control of it at all, and.

856
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: Also because it kind of handcuffs the Mets bench options

857
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: when Dom is playing first base and Pete is dhing,

858
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: something that we had said the Mets should be doing more,

859
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 2: but where he is, we don't really know what we're

860
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: talking about here to a degree, because when Dom is

861
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: playing first and Pete is dhing, you suddenly can't pinch

862
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: hit for Dom when a left he's on the mound

863
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: because if you take Pete out of DH spot and

864
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: put him in the field, you lose a DH. Now

865
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: the pitcher spot comes up in the order. So now

866
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: suddenly you basically have no one on your bench to

867
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: be playing first. Like JD can play first. I don't

868
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: really want him to play first. No, why the westc

869
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: bar can play first. I don't really want to play first.

870
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: Then who plays third?

871
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: JD? Yeah, exactly, So now you're in a situation. J

872
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: D also made his first air of the season. That

873
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: was a second game, that scond game. But good on JD.

874
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: You're making it this long about making an error. That's progress.

875
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: I like that. But when Dom is at first and

876
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: Jay and Pete is the ager, basically when those two

877
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: were just in line up at the same time, it

878
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: kind of hamstrings the Mets bench options, which is something

879
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: that I don't think that we really thought about earlier.

880
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: This season. Well, I made that comment earlier, and I

881
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: was like, I know, I'm gonna get some shit for

882
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: this because it sounds really stupid. But the Mets are

883
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: better off when Pete's at first base and Dom's d hing,

884
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: And I think it does come like true. Like you said,

885
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: Dom can't hit lefties. He's not hitting righties right now,

886
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: so especially when a lefties in the game. Right sometimes

887
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: he's lefties. Yeah, but I'm saying right now, he's not

888
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: hitting anybody. So you mean like today Sunday and he

889
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: didn't hit Rindy's kind of all year. But yeah, yeah,

890
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: but earlier this week he was between Sunday and Monday

891
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: and Tuesday. Yes, yes, but he's back to kind of

892
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: being cold. He's doing that helicopter swing. I don't know.

893
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with Dom. Maybe it

894
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: was an early start, he was sleepy. I have no idea.

895
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: Whatever whatever this Mets lost the game. The Mets lose games,

896
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: but luckily for the Mets, not luckily for the Mets.

897
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: The best part about the Mets is when they lose games,

898
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: they just know they're not going to lose a series.

899
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: And they came back in Game.

900
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: Three and Pete Alonso just put this on his back

901
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: and he basically won a game for this team.

902
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he was awesome. In Game three. Pete's been

903
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: swaying the bat well again after that cold stretch from every.

904
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: Play well weirdly well but not well at the same time, Like,

905
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 2: Pete's crazily hitting for average, but he entered this Game

906
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 2: three with slugging percentage like below four fifty.

907
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: Well that's what you're about to say. He's hit in

908
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: two seventy but the slugging percentage is down, but he

909
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: still has seven home runs and he also leads the

910
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: National League in RBIs Like, it's such a bizarre year

911
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: for him. It's weird.

912
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 2: He's also not walking and like the power has come

913
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 2: like in like Spurts. It's very weird for Pete. But

914
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: also the Mets got a big boost for this second game,

915
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 2: the double Heather because early on Sunday morning, Zach Efflin

916
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: along with Zack Wheeler it's a Zach attack in the

917
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: Phillies locker room, both hit the covid il. So this

918
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: was set for a bullpen game.

919
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: And as we've talked about at nauseum, the Philly bullpen

920
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: is not that good.

921
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: So having a bullpen game against the Phillies bullpen, that

922
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: means you're gonna get a lot of Christopher Sanchez and

923
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: Nick Nelson, who the Mets have seen plenty of times

924
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: this year and who were very comfortable with hitting.

925
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pete se and Christopher Sanchez a bunch. He got

926
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: the first home run. It was absolute bomb. He knew

927
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: it was gone. Gary was lit on the mic, he

928
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: was screaming, he was happy. And then he got his

929
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: second home run, a three run homer in the fifth

930
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: inning off of Nick Nelson, who again Phillies had to

931
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: try and stretch him out. They needed to get length

932
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: out of them. So I'll blame Joe Gardi, but I

933
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: also won't because what are you gonna do? Put in

934
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: uh Connor Brogden in the fifth like, and then what

935
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Like? They just theyre bullpen so bad.

936
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: I can't you know what, I can't believe we didn't

937
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: see I can't believe we didn't see Bret Hand.

938
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 2: I mean happy with see brand had. Brandon's a high

939
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: leverage believer in this bad Phillies bullpen. They need him

940
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: for the close games against lefties.

941
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: But that that diatribe just did sounded like the Rick

942
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: and Morley sketch, two brothers and then the moon. He's

943
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: coming into the earth, an old lady's attack and then

944
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Like That's kind of what

945
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: this was for Joe Gerardy. He had almost no chance

946
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: to win this game. So it felt really good that

947
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: the Mets jumped out of the head early and got

948
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: that first inning home run from Pete to put them

949
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: to put them ahead.

950
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: And also both of these Pete Alonso home runs were

951
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 2: with two outs and then on base.

952
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: That's a that's a big deal for any team.

953
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: You're getting two out RBIs in any ball game you've

954
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: ever played ever in your life, at any level, you're

955
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: breaking the other team's back. And the fact that we

956
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: did it twice in the first five innings against bad pitchers,

957
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: like this was all we needed.

958
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 1: We're just gonna cruise through. And when you got Chris

959
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,720
Speaker 1: Bassett on the mound doing the Chris Bassett thing, he's

960
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 1: he's our better Strowman this year. It's it's so funny

961
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: how we fit right into that mold so well. The

962
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: basst Hounds are howling. He's just he's so reliable, he's

963
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: so good. Granted he didn't go six innings today first time,

964
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: he also so sich didn't really need to like he

965
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,959
Speaker 1: was good. He wasn't his best, but he was good enough.

966
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: And did you see did you were you able to

967
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: catch this? The weird thing that happened where Reee Hoskins

968
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: was at the plate and we thought we struck him

969
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: out and everyone started walking off the field, but no

970
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: call him back balk that nobody heard. The first base

971
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: umpire called the balk on bass for not coming set,

972
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it went from getting out

973
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: of the inning to second and third, three to count

974
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: with ree Hoskins up the plate. He struck him out

975
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: on the next pitch, so didn't end up mattering, but

976
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: oh my god, the umpire is just he did balk

977
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: to be fair like it was technically the right call,

978
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: but the fact that they couldn't even be on the

979
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: same page. Relatively speaking, umpiring has been atrocious this year

980
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball. I feel like the worst it's

981
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: ever been, definitely has been.

982
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 2: It's also just it's just so much more into the microscope.

983
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: With as as much as Twitter expands every single year,

984
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: especially in baseball, terms, how many accounts that we have

985
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 2: umpire other umpire worst calls.

986
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: In the night, Like it's kind of hilarious, Like how

987
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: much Twitter rhetoric there is about umpiring. Just do your

988
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: job well and everyone will stop caring. Like, you know who,

989
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: we don't ever hear about the good umpires. The only

990
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: ones that you know the names of are Angel Hernandez Last,

991
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: ds C. B. Buckner, the ones who are complete dog shit.

992
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 2: You know, I actually forgot about this in bad umpiring

993
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 2: in game one, in the first inning of this game

994
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,959
Speaker 2: of the first game, Francisco Indoor had a check swing

995
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: that Phil Couzzy struck him out on where he didn't

996
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: even come close to going around, and then Alec Bohm

997
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 2: the next inning literally the exact same thing. It was

998
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: just like it's a double heather and it was cold

999
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: out there, so I get that, but like, give these

1000
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: guys a chance.

1001
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: Man, dude, everyone's we're all there to watch Phil Couzzy bumpire.

1002
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: That's why we're there. I even laughed at that. This

1003
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: doesn't have to do with the Mets, but the massive

1004
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: Bumgardner scenario with Dan Ballino, where he's like when I

1005
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: first became an umpire, I was told very wise words

1006
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: that umpire is if your children were watching in the

1007
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: first row. I was like, what are we what are

1008
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: we talking about? It's umpiring the game. You just you

1009
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: dictate the rules. Why is there this like big pride

1010
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: thing about being an umpire get the calls fucking right.

1011
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: If no one, if anyone out there hasn't seen the

1012
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 2: this is this Dean Billino or Dan Ballon, Dan Billino,

1013
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 2: Dan Bolino, Daan Belino, if anyone I was thinking, I'm

1014
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 2: thinking of Dean Blandy, you know, the NFL guy, the

1015
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: guy who chimes in on.

1016
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: A fox and gets every call wrong but wrong.

1017
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: If anyone out there hasn't seen what happened that Diambacks

1018
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 2: game from I believe it was Tuesday, Tuesday or Wednesday

1019
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 2: this week? Yeah, yeah, it was Wednesdays. That's my first

1020
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 2: pitch podcast day after. That's not that's not a fancy

1021
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 2: relevant news.

1022
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: And I let off the show with that because it

1023
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: was one of the most shocking things ever seen in

1024
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: a baseball field. Basically this year this is something of

1025
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: an ump shortage. So there's some taxi umpires some way

1026
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: that had teams have taxi players where guys will umpire

1027
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: and Triple A and the major leagues with that, these

1028
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 1: umpires are a little bit green, a little bit inexperienced,

1029
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: and there was an inexperienced umpire umpiring a Massi and

1030
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: Mumguner start massive. Mom Garner knowing this is gonna try

1031
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: to take advantage of a young umpire, and the first

1032
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: hitting he was just barking at him left and right,

1033
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 1: almost every single pitch that was near Black Masism mogar

1034
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: was trying to get that zone stretched out for him

1035
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: the rest of the game. Because as Madison ump Bumgarner's

1036
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: left shoulder and left elbow die a little bit, he

1037
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: needs to expand the brain.

1038
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 2: He has to find other ways to get hitters out,

1039
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 2: and he hass mostly this year's he got to raise

1040
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 2: shockingly incredible. But the crew chief, Dan Blino, knowing he

1041
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: had to stick up for his young umpire, gave Masim

1042
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: Mumgarner what I'll call a thorough sticky stuff examination. After

1043
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: this inning, he rubbed and massaged Madison Bumgardner's hand for

1044
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: minimum thirty seconds. Like you could put the time around.

1045
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 2: It was thirty seconds.

1046
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: Crazy the whole time, well, making eye contacts, staring in

1047
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: massive Bumguarner's eyes. I don't even know a one man

1048
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: on earth who had his desire to stare in massion

1049
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: Bumguarn's ask for thirty seconds even have the stomach to

1050
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: do that. It's a terrifying man. It's like almost sexual.

1051
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: How long they looked at it, it was boriderline sexual

1052
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: and then massim Bumgarner basically said what the fuck are

1053
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: you doing? And they went ballistic. Bumgarner had to be

1054
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: restrained by multiple teammates and he was of course thrown

1055
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: out the game. But if anyone didn't see that exchange,

1056
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: please on Twitter, go on YouTube, check it out. Just

1057
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: check it out. Anyone that was like the plane video

1058
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: and not the not the recap lip red version of it. Yeah,

1059
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, I know that was a little bit

1060
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: offbeat there and didn't have anything to do with the Mets.

1061
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: But moral of the story here, Ye, everybody's everybody goes

1062
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: to the baseball game to watch the umpire, So I

1063
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: think we can agree with that, Joe West said in

1064
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: part of My take this week, they interviewed him, which

1065
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: was hilarious, becau Joe West is a podcast. Now, I know,

1066
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: if you think everyone in the world's a podcast.

1067
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: Now everyone in the world really is a freaking Also,

1068
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Speaker 2: I believe he's pushing big Crypto and all these other

1069
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 2: like random things as well. He said that the k

1070
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: zone that all every single TV station shows is incorrect,

1071
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: and that there's no umpire in baseball last year who

1072
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: got less than ninety five percent of the calls correct, which.

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00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: Is awesome that you sad. You also heard the thing

1074
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: of information right that the MLB umpire or MLB came

1075
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: out and said that we give the umpires two inches.

1076
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: There's like a two inch respect zone of if they're

1077
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: within two inches, it's okay. Two inches is huge on

1078
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: the strike zone. That's so massive, that's like the size

1079
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: of a baseball.

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Speaker 2: Everyone support your local unions. Back to the Mets. Chris

1081
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 2: Bassett in this game, well, he did have some stuff

1082
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: going on.

1083
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: First time. He didn't finish six innings.

1084
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: He just see steady as hell, steady as hell. He

1085
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 2: did leave this game for Chasing Shreeve, a guy who

1086
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 2: was also still solid, though he would have finished sixth

1087
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: innings if I believe, I don't remember for Shorebert Harper

1088
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: that came up with a man on in the sixth

1089
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 2: inning here I remember, Yeah, I don't remember, but five

1090
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: and two thirds, five hits, one earned, one walk, four strikeouts,

1091
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: just five hard hit balls. Just very clearly wasn't super

1092
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: sharp in a day that was hard to pitch, like

1093
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 2: we talked about with Max, where it was cold and windy,

1094
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: just downright miserable out there in Philadelphia, where don't that

1095
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: many people out there from Mother's Day game, which is

1096
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: kind of kind of sad. Usually Mother's Day is one

1097
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: of those great baseball days you could pack the stadium

1098
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: on a sunny day, but which has been a really

1099
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 2: cold week in the Northeast for whatever reason.

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Speaker 1: But think of tons of whiffs. But just like you,

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00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: felt super comfortable his entire game with Bassett on the

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Speaker 1: mound with a respectably. The only guy who really got

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00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: the hold of him was Jean Sigura, who hit the

1104
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: home run in the second inning, third inning or whatever,

1105
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: and then definitely should have had another one on a

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00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: ball that was just launched down the line in the

1107
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: fourth inning that somehow we caught with their backup against

1108
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: the wall. Yeah. The dead baseballs, which we will get

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00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: into a little bit more here after we finish up

1110
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: this quick recap here. The dead baseballs are a real thing.

1111
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: It helps us the times, it hurts us the times.

1112
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: In this scenario, it helped us a little bit. And

1113
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: then of course our boy Drew Chains came into the game, sick, disgusting,

1114
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: still doesn't give up runs because he's just unbelievably good,

1115
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: and Lugo finished it off and the Mets get another

1116
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: series win. Any other comments here before I start to

1117
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: talk about the dead ball stuff.

1118
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, from the first game today, want to shout out Joelle,

1119
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: my man, Joelle seven strade scoreless appearances, who just looks

1120
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 2: really nasty doing it.

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00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: You know, Joelle's looked absolutely fantastic, Like you said, Oh Joelle,

1122
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: Oh he's good. Who saw this coming? Not us? Can't

1123
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: believe it. A good believer is good. I can't believe

1124
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: he gets the lefties out, the thing we pay him for.

1125
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: Crazy Michael Castro and his fifteen percent walk right in

1126
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: the Yankees. I wish I had him back because I

1127
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: have a good lefty that the Mets don't have otherwise.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, since the man, what a horrible trade the Mets made. Okay,

1129
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 1: So now to the dead ball conversation becausel Ackersley, Yes,

1130
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: oh my god, Mgail, as you know that I'd be good.

1131
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, back to the dead ball conversation. In between

1132
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: game one the rainouts in game two and three, Eric

1133
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: Shaves made some comments to the news. I don't even

1134
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: know who he made comments to, but to a reporter

1135
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: in which he was talking about the base balls and

1136
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: he was saying that a lot of the guys have

1137
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: been complaining. Pete A Lonzo, of course, had the theory

1138
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: that they use different balls for different games when they're

1139
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: nationally televised, that the Mets or whoever's playing gets the

1140
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: juice base balls, and in other games, especially teams that

1141
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: no one cares about, like when you get a Tiger's

1142
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: Royals game, they'll go to the dead balls because let's

1143
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: keep offense down there. Let's keep those guys stats down

1144
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: so we don't have to pay them as much. Well,

1145
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: Eric Schavez was like, we've actually done our own research here.

1146
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: We've looked at the eggs of veels who look at

1147
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: launch angles, looked at expected distances. That all these balls

1148
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: are supposed to be going, they're not going the same

1149
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: distance as baseball's in the past. Clearly something has changed here.

1150
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: Clearly the balls are different. And shout out to Wick Sachs.

1151
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: One on Twitter who kind of brought this up and

1152
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: wanted us to talk about it. He was saying, the JD.

1153
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: Davis ball that was hit, that was smoked to center field,

1154
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: that you kind of didn't even get to the warning track.

1155
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. Jeen Segura, you mentioned there's a

1156
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: lot of balls in this series, even the Francisco Lindor

1157
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: ball down the line. There was a lot of balls

1158
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: this series, all around baseball that you've seen day in

1159
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: and day out, that look like no doubt home runs

1160
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: that are not even getting close to being hit. The balls, man,

1161
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: I mean, why did they do this? What? I got

1162
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: to assume you think that they did something to the

1163
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: balls too, right, of course they did something to the balls.

1164
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 2: I think you're just trying to figure out the best

1165
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: ball to procure the type of offense they want in

1166
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: the best way. I saw a great graphic that was

1167
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: put up on Twitter the other day. I want to

1168
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: get the person's name so I don't forget. Is a

1169
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: baseball rid for Yahoo. His name is Zach Kreser. He

1170
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 2: put up this and formerly formula from Baseball Perspectives, this

1171
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: crazy chart about slugging percentage based on the exit velocity

1172
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 2: of baseballs.

1173
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: They got you sent it to you.

1174
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, slugging percentage based on launch angle of baseballs, and

1175
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 2: it has every single year. So it's his twenty fifteen

1176
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 2: since kind of right before we realized that Major League

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00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 2: Baseball was screwing with these balls and showing the slugging

1178
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 2: percentage on a specific long jangle and five degree increments

1179
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 2: starting it from five degrees, ten degrees, eleven to fifteen,

1180
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: and then so on and so forth. Basically, once you

1181
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: get to like twenty six thirty degrees, that's basically your

1182
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 2: home run launch angle. It's always been known as your

1183
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 2: selucting percentage is like minimum eighteen hundreds, like twenty four hundred,

1184
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: year after year after year. This year, so far twenty

1185
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 2: twenty two, the slugging percentage on balls and play at

1186
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 2: a launch angle between twenty six degrees and thirty degrees

1187
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 2: is down below fifteen hundred, which is again if you

1188
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: look at this graph, it's very clear it's all who

1189
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 2: every single year basically exactly the same, even the rabbit

1190
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 2: ball year compared to what was thought before as a

1191
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: dead ball year in twenty seventeen and eighteen, this year's

1192
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: created way past that and the most steady the launch

1193
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 2: angle is from year to year, including this one, are

1194
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 2: balls in play between five degrees and about seventeen degrees.

1195
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 2: So it's very clear, I think, especially after this offseason,

1196
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 2: especially after this lockout, the Major League Baseball is trying

1197
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: to procure offense on base hits. They want the ball

1198
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: and play more. They want to incentivize balls in play

1199
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: that are grounder, single type baseball rather than just waiting

1200
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: for the fences. And to their credit these evil geniuses,

1201
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 2: it might actually be working a little bit before. Jeff

1202
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 2: McNeal talk about this a few times this year. He's like,

1203
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 2: I'm just not gonna try it for power. The ball's

1204
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 2: not going out. I'm gonna put the ball and playing

1205
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: make things happen. This Mets team may have walked ass

1206
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: backwards into the perfect style of offense to respond to

1207
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 2: this bullshit baseball and Major League Baseball's putting out. And

1208
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 2: it's kind of hilarious, And.

1209
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: It was almost like why the Phillies could be struggling

1210
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: because they have a lot of guys that are very

1211
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: much relying on the old way, or not the old way,

1212
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: but the new way of playing baseball. Home runs and

1213
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: walks the old New way, Yes, the old New way.

1214
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: Mess really stumbled into this one. If this is out,

1215
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: ends up playing all year. Also, the humidor's got talking

1216
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: about that too. Every stadium now has humid doors and

1217
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: they're being used all year long. They're apparently horrendous in

1218
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: the spring and fall months, great in the summer. They're

1219
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: basically calibrated to work for June, July, August, so when

1220
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: you have April cold weather, you just get screwed. And

1221
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: that's like stupid, that's dumb.

1222
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 2: Well and logically too. Humidors add moisture to baseballs, and

1223
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: when there's colder air and the balls more moist and

1224
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 2: makes the ball heavier, so it's less like it's gonna

1225
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: fly through the air with less velocity and not go

1226
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 2: as far. Also, before we wrap up this quick ball talk,

1227
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: before we get to our first prospect report, if you

1228
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 2: guys are still with us in a very very long time,

1229
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: we've just been busy. Prospect report coming up. I want

1230
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: to shout out doctor Meredith Willis at BBL Underscore Astrophysics

1231
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: on Twitter. She's PhD in astrophysics. She is calling out

1232
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: to everybody in the baseball communities going to games this

1233
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: year to send her any baseball that you've gotten from

1234
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 2: a Major League Baseball game this year and labeled with

1235
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: date if you know it and labeled by stadium you

1236
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: guy then and she wants she's she's going through all

1237
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: these baseballs and trying to figure out why the drag

1238
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,959
Speaker 2: is different in different parks at different times and different games.

1239
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: So if any went out there's listening, go check out

1240
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: Meredith Willis on Twitter at BBL underscore Astrophysics, but there's

1241
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: no hy So at BBL underscore A.

1242
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: S t r O P h y scs. Check out

1243
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: her pin tweet. She wants dms people who have gotten

1244
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,959
Speaker 1: baseballs at major league games this year because she wants

1245
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: to figure out what's going on and if there's any

1246
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: consistency or inconsistency with these balls across the league. Dude,

1247
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: this is literally like the bat signal for Zach Hampbell.

1248
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: He could be the hero that we need right now.

1249
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: The dude gets every fucking baseball at every single game.

1250
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: I've got, I've got connections. I'm gonna drop that. I'm

1251
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: gonna drop that ad to him. I'm gonna let him

1252
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: know he's friendly with me. He's a nice guy. He

1253
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: also is a little bit weird with getting baseballs. This

1254
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: might be the redemption arc that Zach Hampbell needs for

1255
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 1: the baseball world. Imagine he's the reason why we uncover

1256
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: because he has so many baseballs that these baseballs are

1257
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: messed up. They screwed with them big time. Oh that's great.

1258
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that you said that too, because that's

1259
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: something I actually wanted to do a long time ago,

1260
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: or back in twenty nineteen, was do a video comparing

1261
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 1: baseballs and just like feeling them and holding them. Be like, Okay,

1262
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 1: I know I have older baseballs. I'm gonna get twenty

1263
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: nineteen baseball. Let's see how it feels like. Let's just

1264
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: play around with it. That's a fun YouTube video, definitely,

1265
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: And everyone again check out Mare that she's doing great

1266
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: work over there, and little astro physicists super genius, smarter,

1267
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: smarter than any of us will ever be by far.

1268
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: But love that she's doing God's work. You know what

1269
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 1: she doesn't know though, what prospects. Nope, maybe she hasn't

1270
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: got a clue about Alex Ramirez. I can tell you

1271
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: that right now, she's got no clue. He's not she's

1272
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: not even on his radar. But Alex Ramirez, this is

1273
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: a guy that you spoke about way back, first ever

1274
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: prospect reported as a Hey, take a look at this guy.

1275
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 1: He's eighteen years old in a ball He must be decent.

1276
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 1: He must be Okay, James, you couldn't have undersold it more.

1277
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: The dude's really really good.

1278
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 2: Alex Ramirez is hitting so well right now that when

1279
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: all the prospect guys start making the mid season updates

1280
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 2: in July, if he stays as high as he has been,

1281
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: that's really freaking hot. He has a potential to lady

1282
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 2: be like a top seventy prospect. And I'm not even

1283
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: exaggerating there.

1284
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been so incredibly good. I mean he is

1285
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: that dude. Send him to Brooklyn. Let's get him in Brooklyn.

1286
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 1: Already was he doing in Saint Lucis. There's no reason

1287
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: he's dominating at the level now. Granted he still doesn't

1288
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: walk four point seven walk rate, that's something that you

1289
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: definitely need to see get up a little bit if

1290
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: you want to see the success that he has be sustainable.

1291
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: But he's also not striking out under twenty percent k rate.

1292
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: Along with he's hitting for power. He's running the base

1293
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: as well, doubles, triples, home runs. He's doing all three

1294
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: eighty batting average, four to twenty one on base five

1295
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: ninety slugging in a ten eleven ops on the year.

1296
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: He is the best statistical hitter in the entire minor

1297
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: leagues for the New York Mets right now. And he's

1298
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: also got the most played appearances, which means they see

1299
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: something in this guy. They want to see him get

1300
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: as many reps as possible.

1301
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 2: He's hit leoff every day because Alexeimira is also on

1302
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 2: top of his good power in his back to ball skills,

1303
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 2: he's in the sick athlete.

1304
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: The guy's faster than lightning. He's blazing p And you

1305
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: mentioned being one of the best Mets best hitters in

1306
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: their system. He's one of the best hitters in all

1307
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: of Low A right now. He had to.

1308
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: Believe a one forty four WRC plus heading into play

1309
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 2: on Sunday, which was top three in the whole league

1310
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 2: as one of the league's youngest players.

1311
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: You know who's really really close with him with these

1312
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: numbers right now, This one's gonna hurt WHOA PCA P

1313
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: Crow Armstronk dude looks good. PC has the whole year

1314
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: older than him, whole year older at least might be two.

1315
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: He looks really good. But yes, Alexeimiirz is our guy

1316
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: right now. He's our super super young prospect that everyone

1317
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: needs to keep an eye out for. Like you said,

1318
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: Keith Flall is the only one who really give him

1319
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: a lot of love right now going into the year,

1320
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: and you hit the nail on the head he was

1321
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: trying to find his next tatist because he did that

1322
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: same thing as well. I don't think he's gonna I'm

1323
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 1: not willing to say he's the next hotist by any means,

1324
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 1: because that's kuyperbole by all means. But the idea is

1325
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: that Alexeimer has got stuff here. Looks like you'd be

1326
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: a little five tool players that the Mets have just

1327
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: kind of casually hiding in the miners right now. Definitely.

1328
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 2: Keith law put him as his number one hundredth prospect

1329
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 2: on his preseason list the same reason I even shatoed

1330
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 2: him out in like the twentieth ever episode of this podcast,

1331
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: because oh, this guy has tools, he got a big

1332
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: signing bonus, and this organization has proven to be able

1333
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 2: to develop players. Let me mention him now and then

1334
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: when he's good, I get all the credit receipts.

1335
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: Baby got receipts. It's a great plan. I'm happy me

1336
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: and Keith Law are like having that the meme where

1337
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: we grab hands with that. Yes, other guys that you

1338
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: guys know about that will mention on the offensive side.

1339
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: Francisco Alvarez, Ronnie Baby Vantos, We'll talk about them all

1340
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: real quickly. Alvarez not looking so great right now. He

1341
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: kind of hit a bit of a skid after he

1342
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: was so incredibly hot for those first two weeks. It's

1343
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: gonna happen. He's twenty years old in Double A again,

1344
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: one of the younger players at that level in all

1345
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: of minor league baseball. So it's nothing to be worried about.

1346
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: I don't think by any means.

1347
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, basically people should just kind of relax with the promote.

1348
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: Francisco Aliver's right now rhetoric Again, he's twenty years old

1349
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 2: in the minor league's playing catcher, the hardest position this

1350
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: whole game to play, and like you said, it's not

1351
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: really that great. He has not the home runsin April seventeenth.

1352
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 2: Basically since we stopped doing these prospect reports. So maybe

1353
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: since now we're gonna start doing these regularly again, hopefully

1354
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 2: as we have the time, it'll get him back going.

1355
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: He said.

1356
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: He one fifty seven over that time too. It's just

1357
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: it's growing pains. He's twenty. Do you have to watch

1358
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 2: James McCann Tom Tomats near the Grand in double plays.

1359
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: I'm sorry about that, but you're probably not gonna see

1360
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,959
Speaker 2: Francisco alvare As this season as even though he said

1361
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 2: he does want to still make his debut this season,

1362
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 2: he's gonna.

1363
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: Have to a lot better to make that happen. Yeah,

1364
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 1: he's definitely gonna have to heat up a little bit. Listen,

1365
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: he's we know he's an avid listener of the Messed

1366
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 1: Up podcast, so he was probably like that a friend friend,

1367
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: The boys aren't talking about me. What do I have

1368
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: to play well for now that we're talking about you again, Francisco,

1369
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: it's fine, we give you the green light. You can

1370
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: go back to mashing again. He'll be fine. Ronnie and

1371
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: Batty both fine again. There's just not really a lot

1372
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: to talk about with these guys. They've all just kind

1373
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: of been playing baseball.

1374
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 2: Ronnie and Bailey are both just still better than the

1375
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 2: league average at the Double A level. Both a little

1376
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: bit older than Francisco Baby's twenty two, I believe now

1377
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: Ronne's twenty one, so a little more experience.

1378
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: They both had more reps and a ball in him.

1379
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: At least Baby, the power is may and the strikeouts

1380
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 2: are just basically where they've always been in the system

1381
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: for him in the mid twenties. But he's walking a lot,

1382
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 2: and he's hitting more flat balls than he hit last

1383
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 2: year at the same level over a similar sample.

1384
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: So I like to see that. One of the big

1385
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: knocks on Baby.

1386
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: Heading into the year was that he wasn't lifting the

1387
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: ball enough, and is happy he's doing that. Ronnie is

1388
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: lifting the ball better as well. He's hitting for power.

1389
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: His strikeouts are a tiny bit better, they've gotten below

1390
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: thirty percent.

1391
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 1: He's still not walking.

1392
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: It's fine, we're seeing progress, just seeing these guys who

1393
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 2: are both again lower than the average age at their level,

1394
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 2: Baby being about the average age, Ronnie being significantly lower

1395
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 2: in the average age, and then Prinsis Scoffers being dramatically.

1396
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: Lower in the average age.

1397
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 2: It's nice that we're seeing them at least hold their

1398
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: own and just even just be being hot and cold

1399
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: at times. Seeing that roller coaster, it means.

1400
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: That that's development, that's adjustment, that's seeing them kind of

1401
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: learn this game as they go through the same thing

1402
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: we're seeing with Vento's two, who's in Triple A again,

1403
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: younger than most of the guys are in Triple A.

1404
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: That's basically where a lot of the borderline minor or

1405
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 1: major leaguers hang out. A lot of older dudes that

1406
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: have had a cup of coffee. There, a lot of

1407
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: dudes who have had success and maybe aren't as good

1408
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: any Moore gotten older. He's been kind of hot and cold.

1409
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: Like you said, he just had a big four RBI

1410
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: game on Sunday, which is when we're recording this. So

1411
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: that's good to see. We know he's good, we know

1412
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: he's talented. He's gonna, i think, hit the majors at

1413
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: some point this year. They probably just want to see

1414
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: him play a little bit more, and you don't have

1415
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: to rush him right now. There's no reason for him

1416
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: to be on the major league roster yet, so let

1417
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: him get comfortable and start to figure things out, because

1418
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: there is a massive adjustment on all these levels and

1419
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: especially we know the big jump going from Triple A

1420
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:38,439
Speaker 1: to major leagues.

1421
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and Viento's this is the best week he's had

1422
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 2: all season. He has multiple multi hit games after he

1423
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: hasn't had a multi hit game in almost three full weeks.

1424
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 2: He's striking out more than thirty percent of time, which

1425
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: is something that I thought he kind of worked out

1426
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: of the system last year when he got very hot.

1427
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 2: But teams probably just have more video on him. They

1428
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: probably found a new hole in his swing, and now

1429
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 2: he has to adjust to that, and that's good. He's

1430
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: still legit. He'splitting the ball plenty. There is Patannia power

1431
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 2: in that bat, and he is young for the level.

1432
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: So just let these guys. Let these guys grow in

1433
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: their own pace. And then we got three pitchers for

1434
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 1: you guys. Three names. You've heard a bunch of them.

1435
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 1: Calvin Ziegler, Eric Orrz, Jose Budo. Which one do you

1436
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: want to take, James, I'm gonna let you just just

1437
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: run with one.

1438
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 2: I want to talk about Boodo, Booo's favorite. I've been

1439
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 2: talking about him a while too.

1440
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: Talk about him. Let's hear it. Jose Buddo's made six

1441
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: starts this year at Double A Binghamton. He's a twenty

1442
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: four year old, so he's he's basically league average to

1443
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: the level a little bit older.

1444
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 2: But in terms of pitching, that's kind of where a

1445
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 2: lot of these pitchers kind of stick at this age.

1446
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 2: Not the ones who are like super prospects for have

1447
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 2: really amazing stuff, but the ones who are just kind

1448
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 2: of learning how to pitch, like Buddo, who needs to

1449
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 2: learn how to pitch because he doesn't have a crazy

1450
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 2: breaking ball and he doesn't have a lead vloccity. Like

1451
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 2: we've mentioned before, he had one really awful start the

1452
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: season April twenty seventh, where he gave up five earned

1453
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: and four and at theirs innings, but he's been completely

1454
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 2: lights out otherwise, very shyingy RA under three thirty five

1455
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 2: percent strikeout rate, seven percent walk grate. These are some

1456
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: of the best numbers in the entire Eastern Double A

1457
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: League between that strike out minus walk grade. So this

1458
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 2: is a guy who does have the talent I think

1459
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 2: to contend at the major league level sooner rather than later.

1460
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: Sticking to that, I really think.

1461
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 2: We're gonna Seejose Budo give them Mets some innings this year.

1462
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 2: But I am starting to think, is that maybe the

1463
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 2: Mets kind of similar to the way Tyler mcgills brought

1464
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 2: along last year, especially when he was still in Double A,

1465
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 2: maybe they don't see him exactly as a starter right now.

1466
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 2: Not that he can't become a starter, because he's going

1467
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 2: to develop a change up for a slytherer or a

1468
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 2: curve ball eventually to go along with great change up

1469
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 2: and his fastball with decent velocity but really great shape.

1470
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: I could see Jose Budo becoming some kind of bullpen

1471
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 2: weapon for the Mets later this season, like a two

1472
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 2: to three to four inning guy like McGill was earlier

1473
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 2: last year. He's yet to complete six full innings in

1474
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 2: the minor leagues and with that this season, and he's

1475
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: had a couple starts where he was very clean with

1476
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 2: the last right, I guess, not a lot of walks,

1477
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 2: not a lot of hits, not a lot of runs,

1478
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: So I think it is possible. But I do think

1479
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 2: that they are kind of capping him around that seventy

1480
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,439
Speaker 2: five to eighty pitch mark in a way to kind

1481
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 2: of make sure he's using his best stuff more consistently

1482
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 2: rather than quote unquote learning how to pitch, which there's

1483
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, people could think differently about that in

1484
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 2: terms of development, but I do think that the Mets

1485
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 2: want to make sure that at least he's using that

1486
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 2: fastball with vertical movement and that change up with downward

1487
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: break and fade before he works anything else, because those

1488
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 2: two pitches alone can have him be useful in the

1489
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 2: major league sooner rather than later.

1490
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: The Mets the Boys have been on Buddo early. I

1491
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: picked up a Buddha autograph the other day. Five dollars.

1492
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: Sure give me that. That's free money. That's free money.

1493
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: He's gonna get called up and he's gonna be okay.

1494
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: He has one good major.

1495
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 2: League start in the next eighteen months, you are going

1496
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 2: to make twenty dollars on that card.

1497
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: Yes, and that's that's good. That's what that pays for

1498
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: lunch the next day. I'm happy with that. Here's another

1499
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: Mets pitcher to talk about, Calvin Ziegler. He was one

1500
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: of the top picks last year or two years ago,

1501
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: my bad two years ago for the Mets. Last year

1502
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: in the Kumaraker draft. That's right, he was in the

1503
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: kumar Roker one. Okay, yeah, last year I was right,

1504
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: I doubted myself because I thought yourself, Yeah, I doubted myself.

1505
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have done that. He's looked cool, he's looked

1506
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: interesting in Saint Lucy. He's striking out a ton of guys.

1507
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: His stuff is explosive, which was kind of the kind

1508
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: of the calling card when he got drafted was he

1509
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: has explosive stuff. Maybe he's learned to pitch a little

1510
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: bit more, and his numbers kind of dictate that he's

1511
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: got a forty percent carry in eighteen innings, seventeen percent walk, right,

1512
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: so the walks are definitely high. But again, he's a

1513
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: guy kind of learning how to pitch now as a professional.

1514
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: Great fastball, great curveball. The dude can pitch. Clean it

1515
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: up a little bit. Watch him pitch. If you watch him.

1516
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 1: Jacob Bresnik's been putting out tons and tons of great videos,

1517
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: so make sure you guys follow him on Twitter. He's

1518
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: he's the Prospect Mets guy that you definitely need to

1519
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: be following. Lots of great stuff. I'm watching Calvin Ziegler

1520
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: pitch and I go, oh yeah, I like the guts

1521
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: that we're seeing here with this guy. Clean up the walks.

1522
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: He's got the strikeout stuff already, we're gonna be good.

1523
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 2: And Ziegler, if I remember, along with Dominic Hamill from

1524
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 2: the Mess draft class last year, was kind of just

1525
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 2: one of these like basically stackcast diamonds in the rough.

1526
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,919
Speaker 2: He came from Canada, if I remember correctly.

1527
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: He's Canadian. He's six feet tall, so he's not the

1528
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: prototypical guy that you see who has a big arm

1529
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, look at this guy throwing ninety nine.

1530
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: But Siegler's a little bit smaller. But he's got great spin,

1531
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: great spin, great philosophy, good shapes. That's all it takes.

1532
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:45,919
Speaker 2: I gets to the majors at this point. I'm happy

1533
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 2: that he has shown the strikeout stuff early in his

1534
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 2: professional career.

1535
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: And then the last guy we're gonna talk about here,

1536
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: Eric ors Ors. I think it's or not Ors. I

1537
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: don't know, but he was the fifth round pick back

1538
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty at the University of New Orleans. I

1539
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: know too much about this guy. He probably is going

1540
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: to get to the majors at some point. He's pitching

1541
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: really well in Triple A. He gets blown up a

1542
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: couple times, but what reliever doesn't what I do like though.

1543
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: Forty percent k rate, nine percent walk rate. That stuff

1544
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: right there translates to the next level at the absolute

1545
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: worst when we need an arm to come up. He

1546
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: will be very serviceable, it seems like, because he does

1547
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: have the swing and miss stuff. Someone to keep an

1548
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: eye out for. He does not have a forty man spot,

1549
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: I believe. So the thing right now, yeah, they will

1550
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: have to clear someone. I don't know who that would be,

1551
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: but keep an eyut for Eric Goars. He seems like

1552
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: he'll probably get a shot at some point this year.

1553
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, high strikeouts, low walks. He's giving up seems like

1554
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 2: a significant amount of home runs right now. Triple A,

1555
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 2: which I mean, who knows what the ball looks like

1556
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 2: in down there at this point or what Major League

1557
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 2: Baseball is experimenting with their triple A. Also, if I'm

1558
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 2: not mistaken, they are using the electronic strikes on this year,

1559
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: right I think so.

1560
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: And they have those weird rules too with the pitch

1561
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: clock and if you're not if you're not in the

1562
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: box early enough, you get called out on a strikeout.

1563
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: Like it's it's crazy rules down there.

1564
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if anyone does check out Eric Goars's Fangrafts

1565
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 2: or Baseball Reference page, you'll see an era it's about eight.

1566
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 2: But I really would caution people not to be concerned

1567
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 2: with that, because when you're looking at minor league pictures,

1568
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 2: you just want to look a swing of miss stuff

1569
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 2: and keeping and not walking guys, and right now, that's

1570
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 2: what Eric wrs is doing. Also a stat I don't

1571
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 2: like that I actually railed against on this podcast and

1572
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 2: on Twitter over the last week is x FIP because

1573
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 2: x x FIP takes FIP and it just neutralizes the

1574
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 2: pitcher's home run rate. Which that makes sense in terms

1575
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 2: of like being predictive and looking at guy's future performances,

1576
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 2: but in terms of what the guy does, a lot

1577
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 2: of things that the picture does will make their home

1578
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 2: run rates naturally higher or lower, just naturally based on

1579
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 2: what they throw, how they throw, who they throw against.

1580
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: Eric Gors's x FIP is actually good.

1581
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 2: So the balls that he's allowing in play, besides the

1582
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: ones that are going over the fence aren't really of

1583
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 2: no but like they aren't like being hit especially hard,

1584
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: And theoretically, if you're trying to predict how Eric Orzey

1585
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 2: will pitch in the future, or it's whatever. Less, there's

1586
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 2: less of a likelihood that he's going to allow a

1587
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 2: home run on forty two percent of the fly balls

1588
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:54,439
Speaker 2: that he's given so far.

1589
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's an unsustainable rate. But those eleven innings. Yeah.

1590
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: Who When people throw the X about for a singular

1591
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: game performance like on Twitter, that's like, that's so brain dead.

1592
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: It's like we're using an expected stat even, like do

1593
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: even the expected batting average stuff on like singular balls

1594
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: being hit. Now, it's like, people, we gotta be better

1595
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: than this. We know that that's not how expected batting

1596
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: average and all these stats are supposed to be used.

1597
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 2: No baseball savan is rarely available to every single person

1598
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 2: in the world, so it's very easy to throw something

1599
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 2: out like that and do it. I got really bad

1600
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 2: at one guy because he told me that Jack Flair

1601
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 2: was good, because his except going back twenty eighteen was

1602
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 2: like fantastic. I was like, you're an idiot. That's not

1603
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 2: how baseball what works. Just Eric wars is missing bats,

1604
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 2: Eric Ors is missing bats. We gotta find his name out.

1605
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: We'll figure this out the next prospect. I promise Eric,

1606
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: whatever your last name is, we're gonna get it right.

1607
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna show you the respect you deserve because you're

1608
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: getting strikeouts. That's the prospect report. Guys, haven't done that

1609
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: in about a month. Feels good to be back talking prospects.

1610
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: I love talking prospects, Love talking prospects. Happy that we're

1611
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: able to give like a kind of a cast a

1612
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: wide night here with a lot of different types of prospects. Yeah,

1613
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: for sure. We got Alex Kramerz, the young guy. We

1614
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: got Viento's double A. We're covering pictures, We're covering it all.

1615
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: Let's wrap it up here with the next series. What

1616
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: do we got, James, What are we looking at here?

1617
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: I think to Washington for a three game set against

1618
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: the Nationals, which is the second time this season so

1619
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: far that the Mets have gone literally exactly from Philadelphia

1620
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: to Washington, which I think is kind of funny. That

1621
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: is funny. And what are our pitching matchups? I mean,

1622
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: we know we're a better team than the Nationals, so

1623
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: this should be a fairly easy series, another one we

1624
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: should win. Of course they do have won. Soto and

1625
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: Josh Bell and Nelson Cruz were competent Major League baseball players,

1626
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: but on the pitching side, it's extremely rough and I

1627
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: can't wait to hear who We.

1628
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 2: Get to face off day for the Mets on Monday,

1629
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 2: so it's gonna be the third off day in four days,

1630
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 2: which that kind of just sucks as like wanting to

1631
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 2: watch these games. But I'm sure the team really appreciates it. Actually,

1632
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 2: maybe they'll not. Maybe they just trying to get back

1633
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 2: on the get the ball rolled again. But Tuesday, Tyler

1634
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 2: McGill versus Patrick Corbin, which I pray to God that

1635
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 2: we just hit the ball a mile against him.

1636
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: JD. Davis lock him in for a home run against

1637
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 1: Patrick Corbin, calling it yeah.

1638
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 2: Plus three hundred probably on DraftKings Wednesday night, we have

1639
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 2: a get right spot for Tywan Walker against Again, not

1640
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 2: a very good Nationals lineup, but it's not the worst lineup

1641
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 2: in the world. Like I will say that while this

1642
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 2: Nationals team as a whole is really bad, most of

1643
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 2: that badness has felt in their rotation and in their bullpen.

1644
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: Me this order that always good. The first six hitters

1645
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: are all at least of major league caliber, which is

1646
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 1: better than you could say about a lot of very

1647
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: bad teams. But Tawan Walker against here, this one Aaron Sanchez.

1648
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry what, Yes, Aaron Sanchez is playing.

1649
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, only still twenty nine years old. He has resurface

1650
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 2: with the Nationals and of course doesn't look very good.

1651
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: But the craziest thing you do, he's twenty nine. Yeah,

1652
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 1: that's crazier than he's still pitching. I thought he was

1653
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: like thirty five. Aaron Sages is twenty nine on the Nationals.

1654
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: He came up very young. People, forget what that's mind

1655
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: blowing information to me. You just I can't even believe

1656
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: I just heard that should mess him up. He's not good. No,

1657
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: he's not good at all. The Aras nine this year,

1658
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: small sample eray, don't matter. But he's also not missing

1659
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: bads whatever. And then a Thursday, mattin a one o'clock game,

1660
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: Carlos carrasco versus Joan adone. Juanna don't impressed this the

1661
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: last time. But he's not very good. No, it's not

1662
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 1: for good.

1663
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 2: I think he has a good that's one good breaking

1664
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 2: ball to the kripball slider. I can't remember right now,

1665
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 2: but he's a guy who strikes people out, but also

1666
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 2: that gets hit really hard. So these games in Washington,

1667
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 2: that is a low key, very easy part to hit.

1668
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 2: Mets got to hit, just rip the ball, score seven

1669
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 2: runs a game, and then get to next weekend home

1670
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 2: series against Seattle.

1671
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: Fun series. Mets never played the Mariner, especially at home.

1672
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: So let's win these games, win another series. I'd love

1673
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: a sweep. I still haven't seen one of those. This

1674
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: would be such a good time to sweep coming back home.

1675
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: The crowd would be raucous on Friday night for that

1676
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: Seattle game. It would be great vibes. Still, regardless, Mets

1677
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: are playing really well. First team to twenty wins, first

1678
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: in first place by a good chunk. Right now, I

1679
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 1: know you don't want to talk standings, but you know

1680
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: I have to. And the Mets continue to move on here.

1681
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: That is going to be the episode, guys, mess up.

1682
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: Episode number ninety a long one. We haven't done an

1683
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 1: hour episode in a long long time. But shockingly, we

1684
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: had a lot to talk about with also not a

1685
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: lot to talk about, considering everything that didn't happen. We

1686
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: did five minutes on umpires. If we did do five

1687
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: minutes and then astrophysics, we all, oh yeah, forgot about

1688
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: the astrophysics. It's been a long one. Guys, Thank you

1689
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: for hanging around. Thank you for listening or watching. Make

1690
01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: sure you're following us on all our social media at

1691
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: mets stuff. If you want to watch the YouTube video

1692
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: metsup podcast, search it up. You'll be able to find us.

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Speaker 1: Mark shout out to the seven Line as always always

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Speaker 1: helping us out here on the podcast. And that's where

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Speaker 1: we're wrapping up. Guys. We'll see you next episode, episode

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Speaker 1: number ninety one, after the Washington National series peace Out,

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