1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel, I'm Matt, and 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: today we're talking how you can butcher your grocery bill. 3 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: And this episode is brought to you by butcher Box. 4 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: Just kidding, that would be way too on the nose. 5 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: I don't even know what butcher box. Butcher box is. 6 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: I want to say butcher blox. For some reason, I 7 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's an expensive way to get 8 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: seat delivered you. Yeah, it's like a meat delivery service. Right. 9 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: That would actually probably the opposite thing you want to 10 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: do if you want to save money on stitch fix, 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: where they just automatically send you clothes and you're tempted 12 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: into keeping it. And again for some people it's it's 13 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: a wild splurge, but for most folks, that's not how 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: you're going to save the most money doing it right. 15 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: That's right, And by the way, but we want people 16 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: to take a cleaver to their monthly gross your budget, 17 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: especially now people just feel the pain and groceries more so, 18 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about give a bunch of suggestions about 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: how to like relieve that pain today, which cleavers, like 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: Chinese cleavers, are totally in. By the way, have you 21 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: seen kates over at our house. Oh yeah, it looks fancy. 22 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't know how to use it though. Let me 23 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: just use it like a regular chef's knife. But it's 24 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: just another tool to add to the toolkit, right, It's 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: another tool in the arsenal when it comes to cooking. 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: But this is going to be a great topic because 27 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: I'll readily admit there are some topics that I know 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: we talk about that we discuss that may not appeal 29 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: to everyone out there. There are certain things that we 30 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: discussed that aren't applicable to everybody. That is not the 31 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: case today. We sometimes talk about real estate investing and 32 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: some people be like, dude, snooze fest. I don't care, 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that, but everybody not going 34 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: to be well. And we want to encourage folks to 35 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: listen to those episodes because I still think that there 36 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: are some little nuggets of information that you are going 37 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: to be able to glean from those episodes. But this 38 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: one is going to be a topic that is most 39 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: definitely applicable to everyone out there for sure. All Right, 40 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: something else, it's applicable to a lot of people. That 41 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: a site that I've heard about Matt but I just 42 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: gave it a test this week because I wanted to know, Okay, 43 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: is this actually a good way to go about saving 44 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: money on getting something shipped across the country. So there's 45 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: an Instagram account I followed. They sell mid century furniture 46 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: and did you buy a fancy piece of furniture? No, 47 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: I didn't yet, I'm thinking about it. But I was like, 48 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: they're in North Carolina, and I was like, I don't know. 49 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go pick this thing up. What's It's 50 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: just like a barcart. Basically, we have a space that 51 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: has been sitting empty since we moved in in July, 52 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: and I've beenactly where you're talking about and looking for 53 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: some sort of barkart essentially to fill that space, or 54 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: like a display cabinet. But and I'm looking for something 55 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: that fits in with the rest of our furniture. And 56 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: I this, you know, seller on Instagram that I've been 57 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: following for years posted one and I was like, that's 58 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: really reasonably priced and it looks good. But I was like, 59 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: how can I get someone to bring it to me. 60 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm not going to drive up there wait for too 61 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: much money. Where in North Carolina? Maybe we can it's 62 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: a Nashville, which we should. Dude, Okay, I'd be a 63 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: good Why would you not want to take it? Give 64 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: up that to Ashville? I guess it's actually getting it. 65 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: Could you fit it in your vein? Yeah? Yeah, I 66 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: can totally fit it into So maybe I should do that. 67 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: Maybe that's maybe we'll take a road trip the best 68 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: way around it. But I was like, okay, what would 69 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: it cost to have someone bring it here? And they mentioned, hey, 70 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: we've got this white Glove service reach out to them. 71 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: The cost is pretty expensive. It was more than the 72 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: cost of the item I was looking to buy. I 73 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: was like, ouch, no way, not interested. Not a deal now. 74 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: But I looked up there's a website called Shipley, and 75 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,119 Speaker 1: Shipley is basically putting it out for bids to all 76 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 1: the people who are are interested in moving the piece 77 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: of furniture. First couple of bids were like seven hundred, 78 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: six hundred, five hundred, and I was like, that's still 79 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: really really, really really expensive. And by the end of 80 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: the bid, because everyone's competing against each other, the bids 81 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: were in the low two's low two hundred dollars to 82 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: move this thing. And so I'm like, okay, cool. I 83 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: still haven't pounced. I haven't decided to buy this thing 84 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: or to have it to you hire someone to ship 85 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: it to bring it to me. But I was like, 86 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: now it's reasonable, So that's kind of cool, and they 87 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: have like reviews and stuff and I love it. Dude. 88 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: How do you spell it? Shi Ply Shipley? Yeah. So 89 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: it's again, not something I've actually used yet except for 90 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: an attempt to get these bids. But if you're looking 91 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: to get something moved across country or at least just 92 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: even just a couple states Ober, because yeah, you're off 93 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: the time to go to Ashville or whatever, even though 94 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: you want to desperately because the beer scene is so good. 95 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: I think Shipley's kind of a cool site work checking 96 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: out very cool. Yeah, anytime there is a platform, a 97 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: website that facilitates a free and open, competitive marketplace like that. 98 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: All for that, but let's introduce the beer you and 99 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: I are going to enjoy during this episode. This is 100 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: a barrel age sour brown ale. That is I believe 101 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: it's called Darken. That's you know, it's written in the 102 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: biggest letters I guess on the label. But this is 103 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: by upland sour Ales. I assume they only make sour beers, 104 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: but I'm looking forward to enjoying. I don't think we've 105 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: ever had a beer by these guys for so definitely 106 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: looking forward to this one. And stick around to the 107 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: end of the episode because that's when we will share 108 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: our thoughts on it, for sure. But for now, let's 109 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: get onto the topic of hand. We're talking abo out 110 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: how to butcher your grocery Bill and Matt, everybody eats food. 111 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: That is what you need to sustain life. You gotta 112 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: have water, gotta have food, gotta have air, and so 113 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: air makes me think of the fact that we all 114 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: have to breathe, right. Well, I didn't really realize this 115 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: until just I don't know, six months ago, until I 116 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: read a new book. But I didn't realize that we 117 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: could all breathe better. It had just not really crossed 118 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: my mind. And then I read this book called Breath, 119 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: which is aptly titled to Makes Sense by James Nestor, 120 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: who's a journalist. He like looked into the science of breathing, 121 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: and he gave a bunch of tips, and it was 122 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: just this thoroughly fascinating excursion of something that I thought 123 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: was basically mundy and boring that there just wasn't much 124 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: to discuss. But a couple of his main tips from 125 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: that book were to breathe through your nose, not your mouth. 126 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: I've heard of that one, apparently, like the conditions of 127 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: your nose just make it so much better. Like you 128 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: get twenty percent more oxygen because of the conditioning that 129 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: your nose is doing versus just breathing and straight in 130 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: through your mouth. Right, I'm breathing through my nose, right, 131 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: I see you look healthier already. The color of my 132 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: cheeks they're rosie. Yes, it's it's just kind of makes sense, right, Yeah, 133 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: I guess he goes through this your sinuses and I'm 134 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: assuming it adds moisture to the air, that's right, warms 135 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: it up a little bit. Yeah. So there's a bunch 136 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: there's like a bunch of different like sciency reasons that 137 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: breathing through your nose is better than breathing through your mouth. 138 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: And just like one other quick tip from the book, 139 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: if you're if you're like I'm not gonna read it, 140 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: give me the cliff notes. Well, fewer deeper breaths is 141 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: another way to breathe effectively. It's just because like that 142 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: it regulates your body because like you just try just 143 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: breathing short breath like you're having a panic. Yeah, you're 144 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: gonna feel bad really quickly. But if you take those 145 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: I think he said five and a half second in, 146 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: five and a half second out is kind of the 147 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: ideal duration of a breath. I love it. Yeah, So 148 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: all sorts of interesting things to something that you're like, 149 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: I didn't know there was much to learn on that front, dude. 150 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: This is like the Huberman lap, kind of stuffed into 151 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: Like you tell me all these things and I will 152 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: start doing them. Well, you're gonna like this book then 153 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: the rest of my life. If you have you read it, 154 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: ID be into it. I think we've talked about it before, 155 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: which is why I think I know some of these things, 156 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: or maybe I read a summary on it, but I 157 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: don't think i've actually picked up the actual book. Okay, 158 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: all right, well, maybe get the audiobook. It's it's not 159 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: too bad, but after like just a few tweaks, yea, 160 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: you might be breathing better, living better. But the same 161 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: thing is true with groceries. So we've got kind of 162 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: a basic subject today. But something that I think seems 163 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: simple on the surface, maybe, but there are a lot 164 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: of ways to improve your grocery store habits to save 165 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: more money. Yeah, just like everyone out there that they've 166 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: got to breathe air, we all have to eat food. 167 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: And literally, like I was saying earlier, like everyone out 168 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: there has to buy groceries. This isn't one of those 169 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: expenses where you're thinking, oh, you know, this isn't an 170 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: expense that applies to me. No way, We've all got 171 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: to eat and we've all probably seen from personal experience, 172 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: like groceries are the third largest line item in the 173 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: average person's budget, which means this is a smart place 174 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: to start working on being more efficient with your dollars. 175 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: And also inflation. Inflation has also taken a toll on 176 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: food prices now the Labor Department, so that grocery prices 177 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: went up by almost twelve percent back in December air 178 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: to a year prior. And obviously, you know inflation, it 179 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: is starting starting to come down. We've seen some encouraging headlines, 180 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: some encouraging news from the Fed. That being said, it's 181 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: not happening overnight, and groceries seem to be one of 182 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,119 Speaker 1: the stickiest sectors where inflation is hanging out, hanging around 183 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: even longer. So that's just another reason for us to 184 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: discuss savings techniques on the show today when it comes 185 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: to food and how you can save money. Yeah, I 186 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: saw an article about Whole Foods. They're asking their suppliers 187 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: to trim costs in order to drive their cost down 188 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: so they can kind of pass some of those onto 189 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: the consumer. And it makes sense, especially for one of 190 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: the more expensive grocery stores like Whole Foods. They're feeling 191 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: the pinch in a bigger way as people are trying 192 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: to trim their grocery bill. Go figure, why isn't everybody 193 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: doing them right well? And Whole Foods is skin for 194 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: that nice guy discount. That's one of the things that 195 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: people kind of instinctively do is they trade down in 196 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: an environment where costs are rising rapidly, and so Whole Foods, 197 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure of seeing people walk out the door, go 198 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: down the street to another less expensive grocery store, and 199 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: so they're saying, hey, guys, can you loader these prices 200 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: for us, because we got to make sure our customers 201 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: stick around, right, keep coming, keep going in the store. Yeah, 202 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: their customers are going to Trader Joe's trader. Joe's customers 203 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: are going to Walmart. Smart customers are I don't know 204 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: where going all the yeah, or at playing a garden 205 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: in their backyard. But enough about the negative. I think 206 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: that you know, the truth is that there's there's a 207 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: joy that we often associate with food. Right. I can 208 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: still vividly remember Matt meals that I've had on a trip, 209 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: or even just like cooking something together with my kids 210 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: at home, like the communal aspect of food that we 211 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: can enjoy together. There's there's a clear reason that we're 212 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: all not just drinking soilent three times a day, like 213 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: our three square meals are just you know, in some 214 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: sort of prepackaged through a straw, Right, I mean, because 215 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: what we eat it goes beyond just nutrition and an 216 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: attempt to stay alive. Like three soilents a day might 217 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: get me by, but I'm gonna hate my life by 218 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: the end by the end of a week. And making 219 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: strides with your grocery shopping and your cooking, I think 220 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: it could lead to two years, even a lifetime of 221 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: happiness you're able to experience where your meals are enjoyable 222 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: and what you're paying for groceries is leading to like 223 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: delicious things? Did you get to enjoy with people that 224 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: you love? So much of life revolves around the table, right, 225 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: and like when you think about how how often it 226 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: is that we do eat, this is something to pay 227 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: attention to. And also this makes me think of a 228 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: recent movie that was out the Menu, which I would 229 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: not recommend. I don't know. It wasn't that great. I 230 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: didn't like it either, yea all that much. I thought 231 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: I would, but I didn't. It was it was weird, 232 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: I mean, and obviously like not the whole premise of 233 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: the show, but just the way that they did it. 234 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want to sitting here in Bash. 235 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: My one line review was that the social commentary felt 236 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: just super basic and if it had been more interesting 237 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: fell flat. I could have been down with the whole 238 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: premise didn't. Yeah, there wasn't enough depth. Ye anyway, So 239 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: one maybe shining point within the movie maybe my favorite part. 240 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: One of the main characters. He's like a foodie and 241 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: he's just talking. He's kind of like waxing poetic about 242 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: food or specifically too about chefs, and he's talking about 243 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: how so many people were up or pay a lot 244 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: attention to athletes, and he's like, well, and they're just 245 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: down there playing with a rubber ball. It's it's really dumb. 246 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: Whereas chefs, they're working with the actual elements of life 247 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: and he's just talking about why he's so into food 248 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: and that part of that. Actually it kind of resonated 249 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: with me, not to the extent that it does with him. 250 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: Like where you are looking to, you know, drop like 251 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: a you know, twelve thousand dollars on a single meal, 252 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But when you recognize truly how 253 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: central food is to our lives, there are some steps 254 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: I think that we can take in order to make 255 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: it more pleasurable in order, like you said, to garner 256 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: some more joy from it. And one of the ways 257 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: that hopefully you can begin to see meals that's something 258 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: you know that brings you joy as opposed to just 259 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: seeing it as a chore is by learning how to 260 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: cook better. Nobody likes doing something that they're not good at. 261 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: But you're also going to be able to save money 262 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: by increasing your kitchen skills. And so if we're talking 263 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: about your holistic food budget, you're less likely to go 264 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: out to eat and you're more likely going to opt 265 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: for eating in, which is going to be far less expensive, 266 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: and so we would recommend for folks to find ways 267 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: to increase some of those different skills that they might have. 268 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: Early on, Kate and I we took some cooking classes 269 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: actually here in Atlanta, some affordable cooking classes, which was 270 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: a It was a ton of fun. We actually did 271 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: it for like a couple of dates. But also we 272 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: were able to formally learn some of the techniques that 273 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: you would regularly put to use in a kitchen. But 274 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: even before that, so that was after maybe we've been 275 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: married for like a few years or something like that. Well, 276 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: right after we got married, we hadn't launched our business yet, 277 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: and she didn't have a job, so she was just 278 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: hanging out at home. And this is when she watched 279 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: a lot of the Food Network. And no joke, she 280 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: literally credits watching folks cook on TV with her ability 281 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: to just sort of where she is now. I mean, 282 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: she's over the years, she's about her day guy Fiet. 283 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: Everybody says that back then, I think it was it 284 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: was Rachel Ray and her hair looks just like his. 285 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, if she's got the shades as well. 286 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: I love it, but no joke. I mean it's one 287 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: thing to like look up a recipe online, but like, 288 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: how is it that you actually execute that recipe? And 289 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: that's when I think, whether it be affordable cooking classes 290 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: or but just literally watching something on TV and seeing 291 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: how they cut, seeing how they blanch vegetables, just all 292 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: all the different techniques that you might be able to 293 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: read about, but when you can see somebody doing it, 294 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: I think that can oftentimes help. And now she just 295 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: honestly she follows a lot of folks on social media 296 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: as well. I mean, just like anything in life, just 297 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: learning a couple of techniques can help you enjoy the 298 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: thing more. Like I played disc golf, not as much 299 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: as i'd like to, probably three or four times a year. 300 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: I wish I went once a month, But it's one 301 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: of those things where you just learn a couple of 302 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: basic mechanics of throwing the disc and if you try 303 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: to throw it like a frisbee and you're just annoyed, 304 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: you're just angry because like I have to it takes 305 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: me twenty throws to get it to the pin. But 306 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: if you do, it's just certain way that he had 307 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: to do it. Learn a couple of specific techniques. You're like, okay, cool, 308 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: it took me four or five throws and to get 309 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: to the pin instead of instead of twenty, and that 310 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: just makes it way more enjoyable exactly. But then regarding 311 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: what to actually make, of course, you're going to want 312 00:13:59,960 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: to make some inexpensive meals, and so we suggest following 313 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: some of the folks that we've had on the show. 314 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm specifically thinking of Beth Mansell from Budget Bites as 315 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: well as Leanne Brown, she wrote the Good and Cheap Cookbook. 316 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: They both prioritize cooking healthy, tasty food without breaking the bank. 317 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: And we'll make sure to link to those interviews where 318 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: we have those ladies on for sure. Yeah, and Matt, 319 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: I'll readily admit I'm no kitchen expert, like there's room 320 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: for growth for me, right, but I've grown, i would say, 321 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: in my ability to cook for our family, and it's 322 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: like learning those disc golf techniques. It's rewarding to kind 323 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: of make progress in that area. But I think one 324 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: thing that might help if you feel like a complete 325 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: kitchen novice is to check out meal delivery kits. And 326 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: they're not the best option for saving money on groceries, 327 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: and whether or not you should try one of these 328 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: services really depends on how much you're currently spending on 329 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: when it comes to food and how good in the 330 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: kitchen you actually are. But services like Blue Apron, they 331 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: might be a smart decision, particularly for the novice home chef, 332 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: and it could be like a happy medium for a 333 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: lot of people. It has been for us at different 334 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: seasons in our life, depending on how busy we are, 335 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: and Emily really likes using these services. We don't use 336 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: them regularly, but when we get a discount or something, 337 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: we'll go back to them and test them out again. 338 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: And I think largely a good reason to test these 339 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: outis because it could be kind of like a gateway drug, 340 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: leading you back towards home cooking and eating out less. 341 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: Signing up for these kits in perpetuity is probably going 342 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: to be a budgetbuster at getting three or four of 343 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: these every single week, but using them to get you 344 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: back in the kitchen at least totally and then weaning 345 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: yourself back to meal planning and grocery store shopping in 346 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: a smart way that could be a good plan for 347 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people. I think, yeah, absolutely so. This 348 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: reminds me of a listener who wrote in and he 349 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: was talking about how him I think him and his wife, 350 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: I think they're empty nesters. But he was pointing out 351 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: how this was something that they did that was fun 352 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: and it allowed them to do something together, but it 353 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: also introduced them to just some different foods, like different 354 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: meals that they otherwise would never have thought to pursue. 355 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: Look up how to make this thing, and it's not 356 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: just delivered directly to them and tells them. You know, 357 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: they've got all the pre measured ingredients, they've got all 358 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: the instructions, and all of a sudden they're eating something 359 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: that they would never have otherwise eaten. It's not just 360 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: a friend passing on a recipe. It's literally all the 361 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: pre measured stuff that goes with it. And so it 362 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: makes it kind of like, yeah, fun thing to attempt. 363 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: But again, it can be expensive if that's your go 364 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: to every single week. But I think it can be 365 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: kind of like a paint by numbers for a lot 366 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: of people who are like I kinda want to get 367 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: into painting, that's a good place maybe to start. Well, 368 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: And I love again what you said about it being fun, 369 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: because we do things that are fun to us. If 370 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: something is fun, it doesn't matter if it necessarily is 371 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: going to save you money, you will continue to do 372 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: that thing. And so by tricking yourself back into the 373 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: kitchen where you're cooking more, you're intentionally cultivating the joy 374 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: of cooking. Yeah, right, Julia Child. And not to mention, 375 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: like you said, over time you win yourself off of 376 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: that and all of a sudden you have built up 377 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: this joy for cooking food. Yeah, And all the while 378 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: you're likely going to be able to save money. Now 379 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: you just like being in the kitchen. Yes, that matters 380 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: a lot if it's something that you're going to continue 381 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: to do right, it's the it's the psychology of cooking 382 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: right and trigging yourself into some of the different ways, 383 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: which how many personal finance nerds to talk about the 384 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: psychology if the kitchen. You and I we are doing 385 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: it more and more because I think we've realized how 386 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: important it is not to just know the steps to take, 387 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: but how important it is to approach something with a 388 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: certain mental state and based on how it is that 389 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: we actually live our lives. Yes, yeah, exactly. You could 390 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: talk about theoretically the best things to do, but if 391 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: that's not what people want to do. We need to 392 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: give practice. Practical advice is necessary. And I think this 393 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: is one of those things where it's like a lot 394 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: of personal finance X works would be like those medal 395 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: kids are way more expensive than shove to the grocery store. 396 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: And and it's true, like that is true. But what's 397 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: going to get you back in the kitchen over the 398 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: long term, just like what's going to get you working 399 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: out over the long term is it is it the 400 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: most efficient, best three hour workout now? And so you 401 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: got to find the thing that's gonna let you show 402 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: up and continue to do the thing day after day. Exactly. 403 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: It's it's not just about winning this one battle. We're 404 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: here to like win the overall war. And so like 405 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: we're not just focused on what it is that you're 406 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: going to spend on groceries the last week in February. 407 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: We're talking about how much you're gonna spend groceries over 408 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 1: the course of the year. Yes, and I guess so 409 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: far we've essentially made a case for why it is 410 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: that you should be paying more attention to your groceries. 411 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: But we're gonna get to some practical tips on how 412 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: it is that you can butcher your grocery bill. And 413 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: we'll get to some of those right after this. All right, Matt, 414 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: let's keep going. Let's talk about butchering your grocery bill. 415 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: It makes me think of Sam the butcher from The 416 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: Brady Bunch. I thought you're gonna say butcher Bill from Oh, 417 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: that'd be a good one too, gangs in New York. Yeah, yes, 418 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: that was a good one. Some good butchers in classic 419 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: American film and TV history. But you know, we were 420 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: just talking about recipes before the break and how it 421 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: might make sense to order a meal kit to help 422 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: you out. But one of the advantages of going with 423 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: a recipe is that you can plan and buy your 424 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,959 Speaker 1: groceries in a very precise way. You're also not following 425 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: a recipe for every single meal that you're making at 426 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: home today, right there's something that you're just going from memory. 427 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: A lot of things I cook or the same seven 428 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: or eight things I cook every time. I don't have 429 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: this wide arrange, and I'm not always testing out new things, 430 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: although you know that's something I hope to do more 431 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: over time. But there's a lot of things that you're 432 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: doing on the fly and The same thing is true 433 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: when it comes to setting up a realistic budget, which 434 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: is an important part of butchering that grocery bill and 435 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: lowering your grocery costs. There's a learning curve and you're 436 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: likely to get better over time. And so when it 437 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: comes to budgeting, we don't necessarily once you just spend 438 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: what you spent last month. Depends on how thoughtful you 439 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: are about grocery purchases last month, I guess. But it's 440 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: crucial to know how much money you spent on groceries 441 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: in February so that it can at least inform your 442 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 1: March budget and you can take a realistic approach. Right, 443 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: you can put a line item in your budget for 444 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: groceries that is absurd that you'll never hit. You can say, 445 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: I'm a family is six, We're going to spend two 446 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty dollars on groceries, and that is just 447 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: setting yourself up for failure. Right, Well, what use is 448 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: that really of coming up with a number that you're 449 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: you're never going to be able to actually meet, or less, 450 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: you just really like the feeling of defeat, right, Yes, 451 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: so we would suggest using previous numbers to help you 452 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: come up with an attainable dollar amount to shoot for, 453 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,239 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you'll probably want to use 454 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: that number and then challenge yourself to improve upon previous 455 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: spending levels two in order to free up more cash 456 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: for other goals that shop got. That's the whole point 457 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: of saving money at the grocery store. So you can 458 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: take extra dollars that you were putting towards feeding your 459 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: family and funnel them towards more exciting, more fun areas. Yeah, 460 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: even feeding your family in the future by investing those dollars. Yeah. 461 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: But so maybe you're thinking, well, I have no clue 462 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: how much I should be spending on groceries. I can 463 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: see what I have spent. But if that is you, 464 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: a decent rule of thumb is to not spend more 465 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: than ten percent of your take home pay on groceries. 466 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: So let's say you make a round one hundred thousand 467 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: dollars a year, So after taxes and withholding you you're 468 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: taking home a little less than seventy five thousand dollars 469 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: depending on your eight but meaning your monthly take home 470 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: pay is around six thousand dollars. So that means it's 471 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: a good goal to try and spend no more than 472 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: six hundred dollars a month on groceries. If you are 473 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: spending more than that, or you know, maybe you are 474 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: spending a little more than you want to, then we 475 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: would recommend to work on reducing that amount. Don't do 476 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: it all at once, but look at doing that over 477 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: like two or three months, instead of just doing it 478 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: instantaneously like you're flipping a light switch now, Because again 479 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: we're trying to be realistic here and we want you 480 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: to implement changes that are going to actually stick. We 481 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: don't want you to feel the sting of defeat yet again. 482 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: So another way to help keep you on track then 483 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: is to split up that monthly budget amount just into 484 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: those equal installments for each trip. So again, if you 485 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: have a six hundred grocery budget per month, so let's 486 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: say you hit up the store once a week, well 487 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: we're talking about one hundred and fifty bucks. One hundred 488 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars like that is roughly what you should 489 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: be spending each time. And so we're taking that large, 490 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: larger amount six hundred dollars, and we're breaking it down 491 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: it's a smaller, more manageable amounts of money. In particular, 492 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: that are anchored to time, that are anchored to each week, 493 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: because I think for a lot of people, they might 494 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: say six hundred bucks, that's my grocery budget for the month. 495 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: They go at the very beginning of March, they drop 496 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 1: three fifty because they buy some stuff they wouldn't normally 497 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: otherwise have gotten, and then they find themselves towards the 498 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: end of the month like, holy crap, how am I 499 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: going to keep this under wraps? Because but if you 500 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: think about it as one hundred and fifty dollars per 501 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: trip that you make, you're more likely to actually hit 502 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: the goal that you set. You're more you're more likely 503 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: to keep your spending in check because you've brought it 504 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: down to an even more bite size, more manageable spend amount, 505 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: right right, Yeah, you're pacing yourself. Yeah, okay, And so 506 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: I think meal planning is something else that needs to 507 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: be mentioned, but not I think budgeting is massively helpful, 508 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: and I think that rule of thumb is going to 509 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: help a lot of folks make more sense of their 510 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 1: grocery budget and at least kind of see cool, what 511 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: are we spending of our take on pay? Oh? Fifteen percent? Okay, 512 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: well we can get it down into ten percent through 513 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: some of the tips and tricks that Matt and Joel 514 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: talked about. But while we're discussing like a weekly strategy, 515 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: it's a good idea to plan your meals in advance too. 516 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: You know, pick a time each week where you're gonna 517 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: spend I don't know, like thirty minutes or so thinking 518 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: about the meals for the week, for the family or 519 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: for you as an individual, and what they're going to be. 520 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: You know, knowing what you're going to be eating helps 521 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: you make a grocery list, and sticking to the list 522 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: is one of the best ways to make sure you 523 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: don't overdo it and spend too much at the store. 524 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: So yeah, consider making extra two, I'd say, but only 525 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: if you're actually going to eat it. Matt is the 526 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: leftover king. I don't know anyone who left love leftovers 527 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: more than Matt. I don't know if I love them 528 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: because I know they saved me money and so I 529 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: you know, like when you have something that's associated with 530 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: something else that you like, you like that thing, Yeah, 531 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: you like it even more of that one exactly. It's 532 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: sort of like we're talking about cooking earlier, Like if 533 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: you can trick yourself into doing something that will ultimately 534 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: save you money. Well, it's like win win. Yeah. I 535 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: don't know if I like actually like leftovers because I've 536 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: convinced myself that they taste better because I know that 537 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm saving myself money, or if actually the flavors melt 538 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: together and better. Yeah, after being in the fridge for 539 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: an as things that you know where that's the case. 540 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: Obviously not some things like French fries, but other things 541 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,719 Speaker 1: like a lasagna. I left over French fries is just 542 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: the worst, the worst. Yeah, But I think like meal 543 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: plans and planning for leftovers and then planning how to 544 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 1: use and eat those leftovers is smart. And a lot 545 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: of people will like make everything on a Sunday and 546 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: then they'll put it in the freezer. They'll freeze breakfast 547 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: literally at like breakfast burritos or something like that, pull 548 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: them out every single morning, heat them up, and then 549 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: it's like boom. I don't even have to think about it, 550 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: already made it. And I also know that I'm not 551 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: going to be stopping to get fast food on the 552 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: way to work because I planned my meals and I 553 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: had it ready in advance, so I think meal planning 554 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense, but you just also have 555 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: to like have a plan to eat the stuff that 556 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: you're making too, if you're making extra that's right man. Yeah, 557 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: So that's enough about planning, right, Let's get more tactical 558 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: with it. Listen, envision that you're there in the grocery store. 559 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: What about sales? I'd like you're about to say. So, 560 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: I was just thinking. You said, envision you're in the 561 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: grocery store, and I was like, what if there was 562 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: like a metaverse app where you could put yourself in 563 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: an aldi. I mean, that's ideal. I'd consider going of 564 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: the metaverse for that. I've not been interested in the 565 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: metaverse until I just thought of that pot. So let's 566 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: but for real, though, if if you are at the 567 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: grocery story, do you see a sale, do you take 568 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,239 Speaker 1: advantage of that sale or not? Well, I like the 569 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: idea of making a little bit of wiggle room for 570 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: some incredibly discounted food within your budget. So, for instance, 571 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: getting that pork shoulder when it's been marked down to 572 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: a dollar per pound that is when you pounce sounds 573 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: like a recent example out of You're like that something 574 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: I did recently bought two of those jokers, smoked them both. 575 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: Even though it wasn't necessarily planning on buying one that day, 576 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: the price necessitated it. But just make sure that you 577 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: aren't using a big time sale like a manager special 578 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: to justify a purchase that you shouldn't make. Well, in 579 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: this case, it sounds like the parkness it forced your 580 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 1: hand on this, right, I had no choice? Yeah, No, 581 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: Like you definitely don't want to make a purchase that 582 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: fits that that doesn't fit within how it is that 583 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: you approach your groceries, right, Like it needs to fit 584 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: within your your general grocery buying. Yeah. I mean, I 585 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: think a lot of people might walk through the grocery 586 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: shore and then they walk through the chip bio and 587 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: they're like, thirty cents off to ritos. Okay, I guess 588 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: I'll sale, I'll toss it in. And there's a lot 589 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: of like fake sales that go on in a lot 590 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: of retailers, right, and so it's just as if they're 591 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: cool range or not. It repeat. His joke is like, 592 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: oh yeah, that electric the electric tingle, It's like sticking 593 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: your tongue to a nine volt battery. It's so good, 594 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: which is true. How do you resist? Cool range to 595 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: ritos are delightful, but they're also really expensive, and they're 596 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: and they're terrible, and they're terrible for you, and they're 597 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: the kind of thing that's gonna, you know, bust your 598 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: grocery budget. And it's not it's you know, if you 599 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: like the nine bolt battery tingle of a cool range 600 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: torito from time to time, but put it on your 601 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: list once a month or something like that, that's fine, 602 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: Like you deserve you treat yourself every now and again. 603 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people are prone to 604 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: do it in the moment just because there's a minor 605 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: discount or minor sale. But when you're talking like a 606 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: dollar pound for part shoulder, that's that's different. Now, that's 607 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: like that's a lot of meals from you know, one 608 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: one one by right there. Totally. Yeah, even if it 609 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: wasn't on the list, I think it makes sense to 610 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: hop on it. Well, sure, And that's a basic proach 611 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: that you can then incorporate into other meals. And again, 612 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,959 Speaker 1: some folks don't cook this way, but if you know 613 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: that you've got a couple containers of pulled pork in 614 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 1: your fridge, the ability to then use that. Oh all right, 615 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: let's make some barbecue sandwiches. Oh okay, let's let's make 616 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: some fried rice O Tuesday. Let's take that meat and 617 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: incorporate it into a pazzole. That's literally something. These are 618 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: all meals that I've our family made last week. And 619 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: so when something like that comes along and it's got 620 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: legs right that you can then apply to other meals. 621 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: That's something you want to pounce off. Yeah, okay. So 622 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: one other thing I think they can help when you 623 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: are buying something like a pork shoulder, which just because 624 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: it's on discount, is if you have a deep freezer, 625 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: and that's yeah. Like, one of the biggest problems when 626 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: you're when you're stocking up or something like that because 627 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: of a sale is when groceries are are perishable. That 628 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: can make it more difficult to do that, right. So, 629 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: non perishable is buying extra cans of something that you 630 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: know you're going to use because it's on sale. Oh hey, 631 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: soup is half price, boom, let me get a couple 632 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: of extra those. That's fine. But when you're talking about 633 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: things that are parish, it's harder to justify that. But 634 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: I think a deep freezer can make that more justifiable 635 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: because you then you haven't wasted money. I completely wasted money. 636 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: I'm buying the thing and not using which would be 637 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 1: the absolute worst. There's nothing that gets get under my skin. 638 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: Is like an ingredient that we haven't used, in particular 639 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: live vegetables, right Like, you got that produce and sometimes 640 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: it starts getting slimy and you have to freak and 641 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: toss it. I hate that. There's nothing that strikes out 642 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: my heart more than taking food that we've purchased with 643 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: our own money and we just didn't have a chance, 644 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: or we chose not to use that vegetable and something 645 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: and I got to toss in the trash. Well, eating 646 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: and not wasting what you buy is one of the 647 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: biggest biggest ways to save money too, because such a 648 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: huge percentage of our grocery bill goes to stuff that 649 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: we throw in the trash, which is a crying shame. 650 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: So we do have to get better at at that. 651 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: But I think the like the freezer. A lot of 652 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: us think that's where we just put the ice cream 653 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: or something like that. But depending on the size of 654 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: your family, how you shop, what you eat, and the 655 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: amount of space in your house. You know, getting a 656 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: deep freezer might pay off in the long run. For example, Matt, 657 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: my my father in law, he buys like half a 658 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: cow at a time. Yeah, and so it's chopped up 659 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: into all these different ways. But the price per pound 660 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: is I want to say, he said, like three dollars 661 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: a pound, which is insane because that's what you pay 662 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: just for ground beef. And he's getting steaks and roasts 663 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: and stuff like that out of it. The yeah, but 664 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: he had to buy the whole rack of ribis sure. Well, sure, 665 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: but he had to buy a deep freeze in order 666 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: to make that makes sense. And so for some folks, 667 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: spending money on a deep freeze can actually pay off 668 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: in the long runs. Or you're making a case for 669 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: me wanting a deep freeze right now. But let's talk 670 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: about coupons, and generally speaking, Joel, you and I were 671 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: both in agreement that coupons are overrated. The typical family, 672 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: they save somewhere between five to nine dollars a week 673 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: using coupons, and depending on how much you're spending on 674 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: groceries every week, this could be chump change or it 675 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: could actually be a meaningful amount of money. But just 676 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: make sure that you're thinking about the overall ROI before 677 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: you go coupon crazy. Right, Like, it's possible to be 678 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: penny wise and pound foolish here just by hunting and 679 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: clipping actual physical coupons when the savings that they'll net 680 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: you they may not necessarily be worth the time Kuponi. 681 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: It might make sense for some folks out there, but 682 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: others should probably spend that time focused on more important 683 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: aspects of their money. Some stores out there that you know, 684 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: they've got apps that make it easy. Certainly make sure 685 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: that you're a part of their loyalty program, give them 686 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: that phone number if they've got that program, if they've 687 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: got that as an option. And also check out the 688 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: site flip dot com. That's flipp dot com, but they 689 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: it's a it's a site, man. I love aggregate sites 690 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: that bring together all bits of information that you would 691 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: normally have to kind of go scouring for. But they 692 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: combine all the different circulars that the different grocery stores have, 693 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: so you can see what is going to be marked down, 694 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: what's going to be on clearance, what's going to be 695 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: on sale. It's easy to kind of plot your plan 696 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: of attack for where you're going to go shopping that 697 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: week based on sale flyers by looking at Flip as 698 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: opposed to waiting for this Sunday actual print section to 699 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: come out. Flips really cool to makes it easy. Well, 700 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: and Matt, I don't really I'm with you. I'm against 701 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: cuponing as well. I use coupons when they're easy, and Kroger. 702 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: When I go to Kroger for some of the things 703 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: that I can't get it all to your costco, I 704 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: use Kroger cupons because the digital coupons are pretty simple 705 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: and they send actual cuponds and stuff that I typically 706 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: buy directly to my house. It's literally based on things 707 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: that I bought in the past, and they say, here's 708 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,719 Speaker 1: sixty percent off a thing of spinach because you buy 709 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: spinach here sometimes, so that kind of stuff is I'll 710 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: use those coupons when it's low hanging fruit. But I'm 711 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: not like searching the internet for cupons because I think 712 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: for most people that's a waste of time. Kroger's They've 713 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: actually got a pretty decent app as well that you 714 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: can keep on your phone. Yeah, so I think it's 715 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: helpful to ye have that app for the stores that 716 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: you're most loyal to. I have the Legal app on 717 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: my phone as well because sometimes I get discounts there. 718 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: And speaking of Leetle, I think where you shop, it's 719 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: probably one of the biggest difference makers when it comes 720 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: to butchering your grocery budget. And Leedle and Aldi we 721 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: talked about them all time because they're two of the 722 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: best nationwide discount grocery chains that you can shop at. 723 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: Trader Joe's are a lovely, slightly more expensive alternative, but 724 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: like if you have one of those three close to you, 725 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: you're going to save money by going there. And these 726 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: stores they don't even have to play the coupon game. 727 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: They don't really get into it at all, largely because 728 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: their prices are so incredibly low already. But just changing 729 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: this one part of the grocery equation in your life, 730 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: you could claw back a huge percentage of your grocery 731 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: budget seemingly overnight. And even when you compare a list 732 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: of basic items between Aldi and Walmart, Walmart, which prides 733 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: themselves on low prices, they're known for low prices. If 734 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: you compare Walmart to Aldi, Aldi wins by a landslide. 735 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: Even still, yeah, even still, even though Walmart is cheaper 736 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: than a lot of the alternatives. All they's cheaper than them, 737 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: And it wouldn't be outrageous to see something like a 738 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 1: twenty percent reduction and what you're spending each month just 739 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: by doing this one thing. And if you're shopping at 740 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: Whole Foods, you're going to see an even bigger discount 741 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: in what you're spending if you moved to Aldi, Yes, right, 742 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: but simultaneously there might be some items that you can't 743 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: get at Aldi that you would you know that you 744 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: might have to go to Walmart. Four But you mentioned 745 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: twenty percent, dude. Back when we before the Aldi near 746 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: us had opened up, we were doing like the majority 747 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: of our grocery shopping at Kroger. And once we started 748 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: shopping at Aldi, literally overnight, we saw a thirty percent 749 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: reduction in our grocery budgets. Like it literally felt like 750 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: magic because we weren't even necessarily trying to reduce how 751 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: much we were spending. We just switched where it was 752 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: that we were shopping. We saw a massive decline. That's 753 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: like it really is like the easiest thing to do. 754 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: There's all these little ways. It really eat around the edges. 755 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: It's the easy button. But that's the easy button to 756 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: save the because it is. But we were kind of 757 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: talking about Walmart and how they certainly have more options 758 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: than Aldi. The trade offs of stores like letal like 759 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: Aldi are that you're going to have fewer options and 760 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: so ins. Instead of their being like eighty two ketchup 761 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: bottles that you can you can pick from, you're going 762 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: to only have like one, maybe two if you're lucky, 763 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: And we actually kind of see this as a plus. 764 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: But also, your grocery trips are going to be shorter 765 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: just because of the food print of these stores are 766 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: going to be smaller, and you're not gonna have to 767 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,719 Speaker 1: spend as much time comparing the unit prices between all 768 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: those different varieties of this you know, exact same thing. 769 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: And you know, we get that this is not for 770 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: everyone out there, but if you haven't tried some of 771 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: the discount grocery stores like Aldi, like Leedle, and you 772 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: are looking to trim your grocery budget, then you have 773 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: got to at least give us one a shot. Yeah, 774 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: So not only are you gonna save money at those 775 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: discount grocers, but also you're gonna spend less time, which 776 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: sounds nice too. And plagues out In reality, man, my 777 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: trips to Leedle are quicker, although in all these the 778 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: little parts for the kids and so I did take 779 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: a little longer. Letals are bigger, dude, like leaders are 780 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: twice as I bet on average. If there's any sort 781 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: of research out there, the size of still much smaller 782 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: than Kroger, way smaller than Costco. But I mean I 783 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: used to pride myself and being able to literally get 784 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: in and out of an Aldi with a thing of 785 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: milk and eggs in like ninety secs because they're just 786 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: they're so quick at the register and it's so easy 787 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: to get back there to the cool they really are. 788 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: I will say that all the people are working, all 789 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: are incredible. They know what I want. They have fewer people, 790 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: they get out of there as fast as possible, but 791 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: they pay them more and they like they crush it 792 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: so well. Okay, something else though on that front, like 793 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: it's not just a major discount, so you can check 794 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: out there are also like smaller independent discount stores and 795 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: you can find one near you at a site like 796 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: buy Salvage food dot com and Matt there's one thirty 797 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: minutes from us. I haven't been there yet because it's 798 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: thirty minutes from us. It's not four minutes away like 799 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: the grocery store I typically go to, but it's it's 800 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: one that I want to go to because they're they're 801 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: selling kind of salvage dented, secondhand food items, but it's 802 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: still good food and they're selling it for a whole 803 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: lot less. And yeah, so we'll put a link to 804 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 1: that one in the show notes. But it's one that 805 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: you can totally check, like check out find if there's 806 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: one within five or ten minutes of you. It might 807 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: save you a ton of money by going to one 808 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: of these stores that's not doesn't have a nationally recognized name, 809 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: but you can you know they've got great prices that 810 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: are gonna save you money. Misfit Market is kind of 811 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: the modern version of these independent discount stores as well. 812 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: You know that you would find on that by Salvage website. 813 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: They've got lots of organic items as well. I just 814 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 1: signed up. I'm gonna give this one a chance. I've 815 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 1: I've never given it ago yet, but like it's basically 816 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: giving you access to nice foods and a discount that 817 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: they will shift directly to your door. Very cool, and 818 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: if you are not interested in the mega discounters or 819 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: in trying a new service like that. Don't forget about 820 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: one of the easiest ways to save at the grocery store, 821 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: which is buying store brands. Name brand items are going 822 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: to crush your grocery bild most of the time. Trader 823 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: Joe's and Costco they have some of the best store 824 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: brands in my opinion. I feel like Trader Joe's in particularly, 825 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: they've got they've got certain items that have a cult 826 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 1: light follow. Yeah, although did you do we talk about 827 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 1: the lead and cadmium and Dart chocolate, we haven't some 828 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: of the Trader Joe's dark chocolates are on the list 829 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: of like high Well, it's a lot of the dark chocolates, right, 830 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,919 Speaker 1: it is, But maybe we'll link to that story as well. 831 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: But there are some certainly some ones out there that 832 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: are a little bit safer if you like to eat 833 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of Dart chocolate every day. It's funny 834 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: because you talk about how like there's certain things like 835 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: dark chocolate that are good for your health. They got 836 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: those flavonoids and all that kind of action going on, 837 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: But you can't. You never want to overdo it in 838 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: any one area before it like turns around and like bites. 839 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: You know, by the way, flavonoids totally sounds like a 840 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: word you just made up. Maybe I did. I'm pretty 841 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: sure that's a real word. But we're talking about name 842 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 1: brands and data from Consumer Reports they say that store 843 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: brands cost between five and seventy two percent less than 844 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: their name brand counterparts. And actually when Consumer Reports, when 845 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: they ran a taste test, they found that seventy six 846 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: percent of store brand products tasted just as good as 847 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: the name brand. So we wanted to mention that because 848 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: maybe you're you're being name brand loyal for no reason. 849 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: And while we're talking about some of these different stores 850 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: as well, I want to give Costco a little more 851 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: love since, in particular for our family, there are latest 852 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: store that is certainly getting more of our dollars. But 853 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: the ability to buy bulk is huge. And when you're 854 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: used to buying small packs of stuff at some stores, 855 00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: but then you can go to a store like Costco 856 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: and buy a massive, double or triple pack of something, 857 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 1: there is serious savings involved there, whether it's chicken thighs 858 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: or whether it's like a giant thing of rice, or 859 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: giant thing of oil. But what's key, and this kind 860 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: of speaks to like the waist side of things. What's 861 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: key is to when you get home to break those 862 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,399 Speaker 1: things down. And so if we're talking like we're talking 863 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: about chicken thighs, like literally take them out of the 864 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: packaging and just go ahead and package of those into 865 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: like ziplock bags of portion sizes that you know that 866 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: you will typically cook with same thing with like oil, 867 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 1: because like at Costco they got like that, I don't know, 868 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: it's like a gallon and a half container thing of 869 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: olive oil. And you think, how the heck am I 870 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 1: supposed to cook with that? Well, you don't. You take 871 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: that home and fill up your little small oil bottle 872 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: that you keep next to your stove, and you're gonna 873 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: fry up some eggs. There are things like you buy 874 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: a bulk in order to save, but then you break 875 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: it down in order to actually use those things and 876 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: not let them go to waste. Ye no, I like that, 877 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: all right, Matt. We've got more grocery store saving tips 878 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: that we want to get to, including like apps they 879 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: can help be saved. We'll talk about that. And there 880 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: are a couple others will get to as well. We'll 881 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 1: get to those right for this all right, we are 882 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: still talking about some of the different ways that you 883 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: can butcher your grocery bill. Joel, do you do you 884 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: think that folks are getting hungry as we're sitting here 885 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 1: talking about all the different kind of money. They probably 886 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: want to taste your like pork and panatas or whatever 887 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 1: it was that you were making fizzole. It's like Mexican soup. 888 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 1: But let's kind of tackle some I guess some of 889 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,240 Speaker 1: these more actionable practical tips that we've got for folks 890 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: in order to reduce the grocery bild, and one of 891 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: those is to avoid processed foods. The old maximum of 892 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: shopping around the periphery of the grocery store is pretty 893 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: accurate because that is where you're gonna find fruits and veggies. 894 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: That's what we're gonna find the meat and the eggs, 895 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: the milk. Right, Like, what we're talking about here is 896 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: real foods as opposed to potato chips, the cookies, candy, 897 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,919 Speaker 1: pre prepared foods. And I'm saying those totinos pizzas aren't 898 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: good for me, Matt. They don't count, man, And those 899 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: often aren't going to be as good for you right 900 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 1: or as feeling, and so we want to encourage folks 901 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: to eat real foods whenever you can. You are your 902 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: own person, so you can eat whatever you want. We're 903 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: not your mom. But by eating eating these whole real foods, 904 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: it's going to be better for you. It's gonna help 905 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: your waistline, it'll help your like what you're spending on 906 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 1: groceries as well, not just processed foods, but the ability 907 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 1: to avoid processed drinks as well. I think that's an 908 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: area where a lot of folks can say of like 909 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: juices and spending money on coke sunny d These are 910 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 1: I mean, for one, they're empty calories, but too like man, 911 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: those things, these things are loaded with sugar, and you 912 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,280 Speaker 1: don't necessarily need to be spending your money on that. Again, 913 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: you are you're You're an adult. You do what you 914 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: want to do. And I know this is coming from 915 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: the dude who likes They always hear me talking about 916 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: how my beer, Oh I should have had a little 917 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,439 Speaker 1: more sugar. Yeah, I get it, like I like things 918 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: to be a little bit sweet, but I'm owning it, 919 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, Like craft beer, it's my craft beer equivalent. Right, 920 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: I'm willing to spend money that isn't necessarily helping my 921 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 1: health because I really enjoy ways. If you really love 922 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: sunny dijol, you buy that sunny d but don't think 923 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: you're necessarily buying groceries with it. I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, 924 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: those are the kind of expenditures you're right, that are. 925 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: It's you're getting calories, but you're not necessarily getting the 926 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: good kind, getting the feeling stuff exactly. Well. On that note, 927 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: like should people buy organics, I think that's another question 928 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: that people have because organics are certainly more expensive, and 929 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: different folks have different priorities on this front too, So 930 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: we're not trying to be uber prescriptive here, but the 931 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: price gap between organics and non it often depends on 932 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 1: this specific item, right, Because organic eggs, they're not much 933 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 1: more than regular ones at costco organic milk, it feels 934 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: like it's like twice as expensive, if not more, it's 935 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: a bit more. So, Yeah, it depends on what your 936 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: priorities are, and you might say, yeah, cool, I'm like me, 937 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: I don't mind spending a dollar more for the organic eggs, 938 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: but I'm not going to spend six dollars more for 939 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 1: the organic milk, and so yeah, this is another example 940 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: of how where you shop play such a massive role 941 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 1: in how much you spend because Walmart is the largest 942 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: organic retailer in existence, and their prices are going to 943 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,760 Speaker 1: be much more afford then a whole Foods, for example. 944 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: But you know, we can all make different trade offs 945 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 1: at different stages of our lives as we have different 946 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: amounts of disposable income specifically to spend on food. And 947 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: for some you might prioritize cost over everything else, so 948 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: you might say no to organic at every turn. But 949 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 1: there are ways to buy affordable organic products too. I 950 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 1: think that deserves to be mentioned. And there are a 951 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 1: lot of people who just prioritize that strongly for like 952 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: everything they buy. And there are other people who say, 953 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick and choose the organics I want to 954 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: bring into my life. But I think it's possible to 955 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 1: do the organic thing without completely breaking your budget. That's right, Yeah, 956 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: Costco that's where you buy your organic toilet paper, only 957 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: the finale for your tush. Another tip is we would 958 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,479 Speaker 1: recommend for folks to use the right credit card. We've 959 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 1: recently talked about this, but the American Express Blue Cash 960 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: Preferred will snag you six percent cash back at the 961 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: grocery store on up to six thousand dollars of expenses 962 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: a year. And man, speaking of all d again, when 963 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: they started taking credit cards a few years back, the 964 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 1: choir of angels we're singing it might still remember that day. 965 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: It was such a big stinking deal because, like, that's 966 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: an extra six percent I'm saving on all groceries from 967 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: here on out. It was the only place I was 968 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: using my stupid debit card. Yes, every single it was 969 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: like literally the only place I used a debit card too. 970 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: I don't think I've pulled that thing out ever since. 971 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: But being able to shop with this card is going 972 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 1: to mean that they're already low prices. If you use 973 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 1: that card, they're going to get six percent better overnight, 974 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: like instantly. But of course, only use this card or 975 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: any credit card, like we discussed last week, if you 976 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: can pay that bill off on time and in full 977 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: every month. But if we're talking about easy ways to 978 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: save more money on groceries, this is certainly one of them. 979 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: And you can get the annual fee wave for the 980 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,479 Speaker 1: first year right now. In addition to that, two hundred 981 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars sign up Bonus will make sure to 982 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: link to that card in the show notes for this episode, 983 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: for sure. That's the one that both of us use weekly, 984 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, and okay, so what about apps that 985 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: help you save two And we've talked about the actual 986 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 1: proprietary apps that the grocery stores have themselves. Almost every 987 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,760 Speaker 1: grocery store has their own app, and you can download 988 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,879 Speaker 1: that and find ways to save there, which I think 989 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 1: is good. When you buy into their ecosystem, they offer 990 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: you extra perks, and that's great. You should totally do that. 991 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 1: But there are other third party apps that are worth 992 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: considering too. Flash Food is a new one, at least 993 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,760 Speaker 1: one that I hadn't heard of until recently, that offers 994 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 1: significant discounts, at least in some parts of the country 995 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 1: for buying items from grocery stores that are just about 996 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: to expire. So that's kind of cool. You're kind of 997 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: preventing something from going into the landfill, and you're getting 998 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: a sweet discount at the same time. I like that one. 999 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: I look to see if it was available here near 1000 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: where we live. Matt sadly no, but maybe soon, maybe soon. 1001 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,240 Speaker 1: But Ibota is probably one of the best known apps 1002 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 1: that will earn you cash back for taking a picture 1003 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: of your receipt after you check out. You gotta jump 1004 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: through a couple of hoops. But these can be kind 1005 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: of like, you know, the coupons we talked about earlier. 1006 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: They might be easier than going out there and pecking 1007 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: and hunting for coupons to use at the grocery store, 1008 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 1: but they also might not be worth the hassle. But 1009 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,479 Speaker 1: it's at least worth looking into. You know, some people 1010 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: swear by apps like I boughta and they say they 1011 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 1: save they get tough to cash back just by kind 1012 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: of doing the shopping they normally do. But so much 1013 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 1: really comes down to you, how you shop and how 1014 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: annoyed you get by these apps trying to like having 1015 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: to constantly interact with them. That's true. All right. Let's 1016 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: get to the most dadlike advice that we can offer 1017 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 1: when it comes to saving more on groceries, and this 1018 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,919 Speaker 1: advice is to eat what you've got. And yes, again, 1019 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 1: I want a clean plate out there, folks, Happy plate Club. 1020 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 1: Did y'all ever do that? I know a lot of 1021 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,720 Speaker 1: folks do the Happy Place sometimes, but you know, definitely 1022 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: each your leftovers, of course, but this also means that 1023 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: you should be cleaning out your pantry or your fridge 1024 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,320 Speaker 1: or your freezer. Super cook this is a cool site 1025 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 1: that can help you to create a recipe based on 1026 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: the items that you have on hand. Of course, if 1027 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: it's just cookies, right, like if you just got oreos 1028 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: and some burritos and like a random chicken thigh, you're 1029 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: gonna have a tough time. Would be really interesting meal, 1030 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 1: though most likely hopefully you make a crumble and bake it. 1031 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 1: Bake that chicken thigh in it over. You're not down 1032 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: to like the drugs to the point, but it's smart 1033 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 1: I think to make this a game like that, right 1034 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: because if you're aiming high and an attempt to keep 1035 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,319 Speaker 1: your grocery budget low, we'll trying to make meals out 1036 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 1: of what you've got on hand. Is a way to 1037 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: gamify things in order to stretch your budget. There's a 1038 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 1: lot of Oftentimes you'll see different folks taking on the 1039 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,840 Speaker 1: challenge of like just only eating out of your pantry 1040 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 1: or you're cupboard where you're only allowed to go to 1041 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: the grocery store for like for fresh veggies or milk 1042 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 1: and eggs, right, but a, of course, we do want 1043 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: you to eat healthy, balanced meals. But I think there's 1044 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: a way that we could also challenge ourselves to not 1045 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 1: buy more of the non perishables that are already lining 1046 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 1: the shelves of our pintry. All right, So another last 1047 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 1: suggestion would be just to eat less in general. And 1048 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: I think we get especially when we want to eat. 1049 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: Think about the portion sizes. When you go out to 1050 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 1: eat in a foreign country, you don't get portions that big. 1051 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 1: But for some reason here in the States, we just 1052 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 1: have just something in ore, and if it's on our plate, 1053 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 1: we just assume that's what we're supposed to eat, and 1054 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 1: so we do. And so a lot of us are 1055 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: just eating more than we actually should, and it's led 1056 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 1: to us becoming a pretty fat and overweight nation. In reality, 1057 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 1: the latest data reports to something like forty two percent 1058 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,399 Speaker 1: of US adults are considered to be medically obese. Yeah, 1059 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,800 Speaker 1: nearly half of which tragic, all adults tragic, because not 1060 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 1: only is that expanding your food budget, it's just massively 1061 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: harmful to your health. And now we're like prescribing drugs 1062 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: to help kuro Obesi instead of making a national push 1063 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: towards changing habits which would lead to healthier outcomes. I 1064 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 1: think so, yeah, it's just eating less in general and 1065 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: eating healthier whole food's kind of like you talked about earlier, man, 1066 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 1: instead of eating a lot of the process craft that 1067 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 1: we normally get in the center of the grocery store. 1068 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 1: That's going to make a big difference in how we 1069 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: feel and how much we spend on money on food. Totally. Yeah, 1070 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,720 Speaker 1: And unfortunately I think it's it's sort of become taboo 1071 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: to say that, and we will acknowledge that, like genetics 1072 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,760 Speaker 1: play role, right, Like not everybody can work out multiple 1073 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 1: times a week if they're looking to lose weight, but 1074 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: the ability to reduce how much we're consuming like that 1075 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: is something that is available to everybody, And it's just 1076 00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy that that is not something that 1077 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,800 Speaker 1: is talked about more not to mention and this is 1078 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 1: our whole angle. It also saves you money, and so 1079 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 1: for some reason it's become off limits, which I don't like, because, yeah, 1080 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of something we've been able to talk about 1081 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: openly for decades and decades and decades and hundreds and 1082 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 1: thousands of years. Yeah, and if you but if you 1083 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 1: if you make it off limits to talk about, then 1084 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,399 Speaker 1: people can't receive the help they need. I think. Yeah, 1085 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: so bottom line groceries are a big line item in 1086 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,320 Speaker 1: all of our lives. In the past year has certainly 1087 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 1: made shopping for food feel even worse because inflation, it's 1088 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: been a massive pain for everyone. Egg prices are actually 1089 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 1: coming down now, but they're still expensive. But the tactics 1090 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,919 Speaker 1: that we mentioned today, if they're not going to stop 1091 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 1: the macroeconomic environment, but it can help you to take 1092 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: some more control over the expenses in your own life. 1093 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 1: And you know, when this is with food and cooking, 1094 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 1: when that's something that you do multiple times a day, 1095 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,800 Speaker 1: you may as well get good at it. Yeah, you 1096 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 1: know you're talking about breathing earlier. It kind of makes 1097 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 1: me think about driving, like that's something that most people 1098 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: do and there might be some folks who are better 1099 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:00,959 Speaker 1: at it, who enjoy more, there might be some folks 1100 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 1: who don't enjoy it as much, or there might be 1101 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 1: some folks who are terrible at it. But just because 1102 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: if you were to say, though, well I'm just not 1103 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 1: good at it and you get in like a fender 1104 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 1: bender every single week, you don't just like throw in 1105 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 1: the towel and say I'm just not good at driving. No, 1106 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 1: like you take stetakeing ubers everywhere, you take steps to 1107 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,840 Speaker 1: make sure that you turn into a better driver, right like, 1108 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,720 Speaker 1: whether that's paying closer attention to the road, or driving slower, 1109 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 1: or finding different times of the day to get to 1110 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 1: where you need to go. There are steps at doing 1111 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 1: a coach but in a similar way. I feel similarly 1112 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: about food, you may as well learn how to do 1113 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 1: it well, you may as well enjoy it. And obviously 1114 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 1: along the way, by doing those things, you're going to 1115 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 1: find ways to make it more affordable, saving you money 1116 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,320 Speaker 1: that you'll then be able to funnel into other areas 1117 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 1: of your life. For sure, all right, I agree, And 1118 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,359 Speaker 1: so hopefully all of our listeners are able to cut 1119 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 1: back in big ways at the grocery store. And you know, 1120 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: if you've got other grocery shopping tips we'd love to hear, 1121 00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 1: you can always reach out to us where it had 1122 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 1: a money pott email dot Matt. Let's get back to 1123 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 1: the beer that we had on this episode. This one 1124 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,399 Speaker 1: was called Darkened. It's a barrel age sour brown ale 1125 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: from upland Sour Ales in Bloomington, Indiana. What were your 1126 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: thoughts on this one, man? Yeah, I see on the 1127 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 1: back of a bottle here it says a blended work 1128 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 1: of art. This was a really really interesting beer. So 1129 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,800 Speaker 1: it's a brown ale, but it was a sour brown. 1130 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 1: What tasted like was then married with the spices from 1131 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 1: a Belgian quad, not the yeasts, right, So it doesn't 1132 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 1: have like that the sweetness that you get with Belgian 1133 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,760 Speaker 1: beers that you get from the yeast, but it totally 1134 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: had the like the Belgian spices going on, and so 1135 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: it had the darker sour funk, but then it had 1136 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 1: these notes of like Christmas. It's almost like when you 1137 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,880 Speaker 1: get a song stuck in your head and you're like, wait, 1138 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 1: why can't I get this? Like what is it about this? 1139 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 1: I feel like that's what this sort of had going 1140 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,320 Speaker 1: on with those Baltian spices. Yes. On the back it 1141 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 1: says that it was kind of trying to imitate the 1142 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 1: ud Bruin style, which is like sour brown, right, which 1143 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 1: is a traditionally Belgian style sour and which I love 1144 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 1: in the style beer so much sense. But that being said, 1145 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 1: this had this is incredibly unique. Yeah, that very differently 1146 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,399 Speaker 1: than a nude bruin. Well, of course, Americans, you don't 1147 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: like to shake it up, do things differently. So there's 1148 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,800 Speaker 1: an American take on a Belgian style beer. And I 1149 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 1: really like, I really liked it. But you're right, it 1150 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 1: definitely had some different vibes and different spice action going on. 1151 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 1: But I mean, anytime someone says they're making an ude bruin, like, 1152 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,360 Speaker 1: give it to me, I'm gonna take it. Anytime that 1153 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,919 Speaker 1: there's somebody making a barrel aged yeah, anything. Yeah, the oak. 1154 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 1: The oak came through in a big way on this 1155 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,800 Speaker 1: one too, for sure. So all right, that's gonna do 1156 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 1: it for this episode, though, Matt. For for folks who 1157 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 1: want links to some of the resources we mentioned, we 1158 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,320 Speaker 1: mentioned a lot today specific apps and sites where you 1159 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 1: can go to save money on groceries, well we'll list 1160 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,359 Speaker 1: all of those up on our site at howtmoney dot com. 1161 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 1: And not only are the resources up there from this 1162 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 1: specific episode, but we've got a lot of new content 1163 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,279 Speaker 1: up there on the site. We've got obviously the show notes, 1164 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 1: but just other articles other helpful content to the credit 1165 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 1: card tool. There are a ton of fantastic resources up 1166 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 1: there for you. So we wanted to mention those as well, 1167 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 1: but Joel, that's going to be it for this episode 1168 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 1: until next time. Best Friends Out, Best Friends Out,