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Speaker 1: Welcome back to I Do Part two. I am one

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Speaker 1: of your celebrity mentors, Jen Pessler, and I am here

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Speaker 1: at live in the vineyard in beautiful Napa Valley. I

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Speaker 1: am having the best time with I Do Part two.

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Speaker 2: Crewe new friends.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually seeing some old friends. So we've been talking

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Speaker 1: about this little match making moment that we've had here

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Speaker 1: on the podcast, and I have sitting next to me,

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Speaker 1: the man of the hour. I want you guys to

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Speaker 1: please welcome Pascal from the Golden Bachelorette back to the pod. Hello,

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Speaker 1: my new friend, how are you. I am so happy

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Speaker 1: to be sitting here with you. We have had a

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Speaker 1: chance to get to know each other a little bit tonight. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and it's been an absolute pleasure.

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Speaker 3: Same here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you for saying that, Pascal.

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Speaker 1: Yes again, I've had a chance to spend a little

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Speaker 1: bit of time with you today into tonight and it's

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Speaker 1: been a pleasure. I'm a big fan already. I watched

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Speaker 1: a little bit of you on the Golden Bachelorette. You

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Speaker 1: got very close to the end there, but you were charming.

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Speaker 1: I was charmed, the audience was charmed. I think Joan

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Speaker 1: was charmed. The world was charmed. But now we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about Kelly being charmed. So Pascal, talk to

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Speaker 1: me about you and Kelly. You slid into her DMS.

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Speaker 1: Tell me why, and then we're going to get into

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Speaker 1: a little bit about how the night went.

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Speaker 3: Slim into the d M.

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Speaker 4: I think there was a little misunderstanding in here because

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Speaker 4: I think what I found out from Giddy then he

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Speaker 4: went into the you know, the story about the the

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Speaker 4: Valentine's Days, about the mystery that she was going to

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Speaker 4: take for the Music Award, and I found that. Then

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Speaker 4: the guy was going to go with her, and then

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Speaker 4: I ended up seeing her with Gary, and I talked

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Speaker 4: to Gary on the phone. I said, what happened? So

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Speaker 4: Gary start telling me a little bit about the story.

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Speaker 4: So you know, that's how we get in touch Killy

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Speaker 4: and I.

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Speaker 3: And then I think that's it.

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Speaker 1: You but you heard that she wasn't with guys, she

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Speaker 1: was Gary. And then you just listen to her DMS

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Speaker 1: because you thought, let me jump on board this.

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Speaker 3: She said, she said, trying to be funny. Yes, mostly

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Speaker 3: try to be funny.

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Speaker 4: And then you know she told her, I said, I

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Speaker 4: think I would have better better match as a as

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Speaker 4: a joke.

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Speaker 1: You know, by the way, did you know anything about

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Speaker 1: her at this point? You didn't hear the podcast?

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Speaker 2: Had you? Did you listen to the Daily Game one?

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Speaker 3: I heard about the didn't game.

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Speaker 4: I heard about the didn't game and Valentines when she

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Speaker 4: had to choose one of the board and bachelors you

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Speaker 4: go to the fisty of the Music Award. So I

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Speaker 4: heard that from Gary as well as I heard that

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Speaker 4: from guys. Okay, okay, But I didn't know anything about Katy.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know who she was.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know. I had no idea who she was.

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Speaker 3: You know, she looked like not either, no, no, no, nothing.

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Speaker 1: It was just like, you know what she says, be funny,

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Speaker 1: all right, So you took a little chance there, that's

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Speaker 1: a little chance.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So if I say it one more time, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to throw up. I hate the expression slid into her dms. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the dumbest expression. Excuse me, I agree, thank you. But

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Speaker 1: now here we are at live in the vineyard, the

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Speaker 1: beautiful Napa Valley, California, and you meet the beautiful Kelly

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Speaker 1: ben Simon. So just tell me what was your first impression.

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Speaker 4: The first time I saw that she's very attractive. Definitely,

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Speaker 4: she's tall, she's feet, she's a fashionable.

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Speaker 2: She met her when she was in a bikini from Actually.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was working out of my hotel oom. I

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Speaker 4: was walking downstairs and she was at the pool at

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Speaker 4: the time. She woke out of the pool and that's

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Speaker 4: how we met. So I met her in a bikini,

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Speaker 2: Of course she's right, right.

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Speaker 4: She's attractive, she's she's well spoken, she's uh, she's got.

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Speaker 3: A good personality. She's she's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Was she what you pictured when you were, you know,

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Speaker 4: I didn't, I didn't. I told she was she was, yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: That is that a turn on for you? Do you

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Speaker 4: I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I like to be the dominant. Yeah, you know I'm

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Speaker 2: Five eleven, Yeah that is tall, Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you like I like to be a little

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Speaker 1: we just came back from this whole adventure, and I

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Speaker 1: guess you seem very confident to me.

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Speaker 2: Were you nervous at all.

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Speaker 1: I mean I watched you guys from the getting here,

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Speaker 2: Did you feel that way? Were you nervous?

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Speaker 3: No, I wasn't nervous.

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Speaker 4: I mean remember one time, I mean, I mean nine

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Speaker 4: us toe where I deal with women all day long.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is what I do for a living.

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Speaker 4: So I'm much more comfortable with women than i am

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Speaker 4: with men. Wow, So to me, it's very easy when

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Speaker 4: there is a woman around me. It's very easy for

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Speaker 4: me to engage your conversation because that's what I do.

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Speaker 4: So No, I wasn't insecure at all. I feel very confident.

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Speaker 3: I knew then.

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Speaker 4: Whatever happened after that experience is killing. I would be friend, okay,

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Speaker 4: And that's the best part of it is I get

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Speaker 2: I wish that everyone.

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Speaker 1: I hope that everyone's listening who is single and who

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Speaker 1: is looking for love. Here's what Pascal just said, and

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Speaker 1: Kelly and I spoke about it a little bit and

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Speaker 1: takes it to heart, like at the end of the

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Speaker 1: day when you were out there and you were dating.

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Speaker 1: I think the best attitude is when you meet someone

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Speaker 1: who probably not going to be a love connection. But

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Speaker 1: guess what I'm going it to make a new friend.

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Speaker 1: Maybe who knows, we'll hit it off in a different way.

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Speaker 1: But that is the best, healthiest attitude in my humble opinion.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to interrupt, Please go on.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean I think to me, that's the way

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Speaker 4: You know, sometimes you look at somebody and you're very

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Speaker 4: attractive to them, and then when you meet them there

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Speaker 4: is not that spark. But it doesn't mean because there

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Speaker 4: is not that spark, then you cannot be friends. So

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Speaker 4: I think you you know, sometimes you meet some people

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Speaker 4: better keep them as a friend and lovers. And I

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Speaker 4: think Kelly is a very attractive looking woman. I think

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Speaker 4: she's got a lot of class, she's got a great personality.

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Speaker 4: But I see her more as a friend than a partners.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so interesting.

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Speaker 1: What was there anything specific that she said did that

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Speaker 1: made you feel that way that?

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Speaker 4: No? I don't know, No, no, not at all. I

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Speaker 4: think I think we're a wonderful conversation. You're on that

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Speaker 4: I need, you know, to meet all about chemistry. You know,

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Speaker 4: you know when the chemistry is.

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Speaker 3: There or not.

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Speaker 4: You know, have enough experience over over the years my daddy,

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Speaker 2: And it gets like, yes.

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Speaker 4: She sees somebody will say, you know, that's the person

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Speaker 4: there is fire there, okay. And to me, when I

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Speaker 4: see Kelly, I see, don't get me wrong, Katy is.

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Speaker 3: Kelly is a beautiful woman.

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Speaker 4: She's an out Okay, she's she's mean, she's got a

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Speaker 3: But I need that spark.

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Speaker 4: And I had the same problem when I was in

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Speaker 4: the Bachelor. I didn't have I didn't have the spark

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Speaker 1: I think that Kelly could tell and we'll bring her

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Speaker 1: you weren't feeling that spark. I don't think she Maybe

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Speaker 1: we should save this from when she's actually in the room.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think you guys are a little simpotical,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she was, she was getting that.

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Speaker 1: Did you was there anything that you may have learned

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Speaker 1: do think this, but not for me. Do you think

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Speaker 1: of anybody else you would want to set her up with?

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Speaker 4: You know, you know what, I'm not a good matchmakers,

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Speaker 4: you know, as you just don't know her that well.

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Speaker 4: Mean I did spend all the time we serve and

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Speaker 2: Marie Gievo was flirting going on. Was there anything?

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Speaker 3: Where she live?

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Speaker 4: How long did you have found out? And she was

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Speaker 4: even in France in publish for quite a few years.

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Speaker 3: That was wonderful.

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Speaker 4: But no, she didn't do anything to turn me off

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Speaker 4: as you just don't think this is a good fit

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Speaker 1: So I just want to say this to our listeners.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not a psychiatrist, I'm not a relationship expert.

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Speaker 1: I'm just putting it out there, like what I'm hearing

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Speaker 1: from you is so interesting, Like it just because Kelly

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Speaker 1: is a knockout and smart and successful and a wonderful mother.

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Speaker 1: But for some whatever it was, the planets were not aligning.

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Speaker 1: You didn't feel it, and there wasn't that little tiny

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Speaker 1: Kelly's coming from. I think maybe she would have given

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the right thing here is.

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Speaker 1: Again, I'm not a relationship expert, but it sounds like

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Speaker 1: feel it. Let's be friends. You can appreciate the fact

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Speaker 1: but the chemistry wasn't there, and so you.

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Speaker 4: Know, it's not It's not always about beauty. Okay, you

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Speaker 4: think beauty is we we have a tendency to be

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Speaker 3: I think it's not it's not about a beauty.

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Speaker 2: It's just something chemical.

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Speaker 3: The chemical.

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Speaker 4: The chemistry wasn't there, and that's not Sometimes you could

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Speaker 4: sometimes you know, I've meet someone it's there. I know.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to.

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Speaker 4: Get to know her and Kallie, I want to get

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm thinking that this is so

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Speaker 1: You can be you know, so appreciative of who she

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Speaker 2: You know, you can go out with someone.

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Speaker 1: They could see that you're a wonderful person, interesting, beautiful, intelligent,

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Speaker 1: you can spark with someone else. Yes, yes, yes, it's

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Speaker 1: not about Kelly or you necessarily or it's just it's there.

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Speaker 1: I think that some people feel like like maybe Kelly

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Speaker 1: and maybe that would have you guys could have found that,

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't really matter in the end. You both

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Speaker 1: before we move on, we're bringing Kelly back in Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 1: which you know is going to be fun.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're all adults. Yes, I think this is so evolved.

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Speaker 2: We've handled it all so beautifully. Yeah, and we're going

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Speaker 2: to bring back your new friends. Okay, Kelly be love

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