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Speaker 2: Welcome in episode one thirty nine What's Right with Nick
Speaker 2: Wright's podcast YouTube show Huge Show Today, Fresh Off and
Speaker 2: National Championship.
Speaker 3: We'll get to the men's side of things shortly.
Speaker 2: We'll discuss some of the women's tournament, which was outstanding.
Speaker 2: But first also little house keeping announce of you have
Speaker 2: seen on this show my son Demanse, he's been my
Speaker 2: co host from day one. You've seen on this show
Speaker 2: my wife Danielle, she is intermittently co hosted. You've seen
Speaker 2: on this show our youngest daughter, Deanna. She co hosted
Speaker 2: one time today, making her What's Right debut at the
Speaker 2: tail end of the show. With respect to my other children,
Speaker 2: my apologies. The most talented of my children and the
Speaker 2: most unenthusiastic about the family business. One Diora will join
Speaker 2: us as she will be taking over for Demanse for
Speaker 2: about four weeks starting next week. You will see her
Speaker 2: at the end of today's show. But before we get
Speaker 2: to that, let's get to what is not on today's show.
Speaker 2: Not on the show thunder fans still being so sad
Speaker 2: about Durant leaving. Durant left them in July fourth, twenty sixteen,
Speaker 2: seven years ago. Endeavor acquires the WWE and the Titans
Speaker 2: are considering trading up to the number three pick. But
Speaker 2: none of that's really on the show. What is on
Speaker 2: the show is some college hoops and also demand do
Speaker 2: you know what week it is before it starts day
Speaker 2: after tomorrow.
Speaker 4: The second week after MLB opening Day?
Speaker 3: That is true, But do you also know what week
Speaker 3: it is?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 4: What is it? Oh? Is it draft? No, it's not
Speaker 4: draft week.
Speaker 2: Oh it's Master's week, buddy, right before you leave the
Speaker 2: Masters the Green Jacket Augusta National, Yeah, buddy, all of
Speaker 2: it all right, Demonse, Let's talk some Kyle every weekend
Speaker 2: after the Final Four. The reason they can't ever move
Speaker 2: the Final four is because CBS has the Final Four
Speaker 2: and CBS with Jim Nance's dulcet tones while he's leaving
Speaker 2: the Final four, ever leave Augusta National.
Speaker 4: Are we still.
Speaker 2: We will be talking masters? All right, let's go, let's
Speaker 2: get to the show today.
Speaker 4: Go ahead? All right?
Speaker 6: So, uh, Yukon obviously crushed San Diego State. But the
Speaker 6: real story, by the way, we realized there's a kid. Yeah,
Speaker 6: he went to basketball camp with a very long time ago.
Speaker 6: He got a lot bigger Jayane.
Speaker 2: Lee from San Diego State. Demonti said this morning. He
Speaker 2: was like, is the Jaydan Lee kid from Houston? I
Speaker 2: think it's j pardon me that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I definitely went to a camp with him,
Speaker 6: like a long like I feel like my freshman year
Speaker 6: of high school or something like.
Speaker 3: That good friend that kid turned into a ball or
Speaker 3: go ahead?
Speaker 6: But yeah, So the real story is obviously on the
Speaker 6: women's side where Uls you beat Liaha And the most
Speaker 6: fun part of the tournament was Caitlyn Clark talking her trash,
Speaker 6: but then she got a little bit of taste of
Speaker 6: her own medicine. Inel rees or your thoughts on the
Speaker 6: how the moment was handled by the players in the media.
Speaker 2: Okay, so first let me say something about the men's
Speaker 2: tournament because it ended last night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then we'll get to the women's.
Speaker 2: Side of it. Props to Yukon, it's their fifth title
Speaker 2: in the last twenty five years. Well, no, you're fine.
Speaker 2: More on that in a second, because you're absolutely right.
Speaker 2: Yukon now has a weird claim, like are they amongst
Speaker 2: in college hoops? You have the blue bloods, which are
Speaker 2: the programs that have essentially been good for decades that
Speaker 2: have won a disproportionate number of titles. So you have
Speaker 2: used CLA, Kentucky, Duke, Kansas, Carolina, Indiana, those six programs.
Speaker 2: But now Yukon has as many titles as Indiana has
Speaker 2: way more titles in the last quarter century in the
Speaker 2: last thirty years than Kansas, and Kansas has two they
Speaker 2: just won one last year and they won to O
Speaker 2: seven since nineteen eighty eight they have two or eighty nine. Kentucky,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Kentucky obviously was historically great under eight Off Rupp,
Speaker 2: then was great under Rick Patino, then was great under
Speaker 2: Tubby Smith, then was great under Calipari, but they have
Speaker 2: fallen off. Carolina had Dean Smith and Roy Williams and
Speaker 2: still is there and Duke with coach k was great
Speaker 2: for so long. UCLA has kind of been in a downslope,
Speaker 2: but they won a dozen championships with John Wooden almost
Speaker 2: they had undefeated seasons all of that. Indiana had Bob Knight.
Speaker 2: Now Yukon, with three different coaches, has won five titles
Speaker 2: Jim Calhoun, Kevin Ollie and now Hurley. So credit to them.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it really makes them a blue
Speaker 2: blood program. I don't know if you can get new money.
Speaker 2: BUTMANI was talking about this into the blue bloods. But
Speaker 2: I think for young people, Yukon has considered a far
Speaker 2: better program than Indiana. I don't think you thought of
Speaker 2: Indiana as some great basketball school, did you. No.
Speaker 4: I knew that they were good, like I know that
Speaker 4: there are a history.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the I think for young people, Gonzaga is considered,
Speaker 2: you know what, I mean, a more prominent program than Indianas.
Speaker 2: But now to what you said about the game. Fact
Speaker 2: of the matter is this, right now, the women's game
Speaker 2: at the collegiate level is better than the men's game.
Speaker 2: Because you don't have your best players turning pro you
Speaker 2: do have the continuity and the shop making and skill
Speaker 2: level of the women's game makes for a far more
Speaker 2: attractive product. And what we ten million people watched that
Speaker 2: championship game. That is more than watched any game of
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty one NBA Finals. Some of the women's
Speaker 2: championship game. LSU scored one hundred and two points in
Speaker 2: a forty minute college game. Here's what I know about
Speaker 2: the viewing public. Is there a bye against women's sports?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Will people watch though if the product looks awesome, Yes,
Speaker 2: people watch women's tennis.
Speaker 3: Why our female tennis players.
Speaker 2: Would the best female tennis player in the world lose
Speaker 2: consistently to the tenth best male tennis player. Yes, they would.
Speaker 2: The strength and the power and all that. There's no
Speaker 2: overcoming it. However, men's tennis, because it became so much
Speaker 2: about who had the strongest serve. What is most attractive
Speaker 2: to watch on tennis is serve and volley, to serve,
Speaker 2: the return, the long points, the back and forth right
Speaker 2: even demands. He was not a big tennis guy, picked
Speaker 2: that up when we were watching the men's game. Doesn't
Speaker 2: happen nearly as much as the women's game. So the
Speaker 2: women's game plus some big personalities. Serena, you know, is
Speaker 2: the obviously the forefront of that kind of propelled this
Speaker 2: to TV ratings alongside the men's Now you go to
Speaker 2: women's college basketball, there is not the athleticism, There is
Speaker 2: not the level of physical dominance that you see in
Speaker 2: the men's game. But because there is not big money
Speaker 2: in women's professional basketball in the United States, these teams
Speaker 2: stay together that you develop dynastic runs, you develop personalities.
Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark can be a National Player of the Year
Speaker 2: candidate as a freshman, and then it is a sophomore,
Speaker 2: and then when it is a junior, you have what
Speaker 2: they were building in South Carolina and people are into it.
Speaker 2: And it was a hell of a product in a
Speaker 2: hell of a game. And what Caitlyn did all tournament
Speaker 2: was remarkable. A forty point triple dobble in the Elite eight,
Speaker 2: a forty point performance against an undefeated, dominant South Carolina team,
Speaker 2: defending national champion in the Final four, where she scored
Speaker 2: or assisted on every bucket the fourth quarter. And then
Speaker 2: you run into LSU who is Angel Reese, who was
Speaker 2: a unanimous All American who had thirty one double doubles
Speaker 2: this year and LSU catches fire. There's some horrid officiating
Speaker 2: that I think l she was the better team, but
Speaker 2: it threw off the flow of the game entirely for
Speaker 2: both teams and LSU wins. And it should be just
Speaker 2: one of the best weekends in the history of women's
Speaker 2: sports in this country, right like it was, and Caitlyn
Speaker 2: Clark helped do that. South Carolina being the dominant kind
Speaker 2: of end boss all of that. Unfortunately, as Demands tweeted
Speaker 2: because he had taken a nap, I just woke up
Speaker 2: to racism. Was I think the tweet there was the
Speaker 2: reaction to the end of the game. So I will
Speaker 2: set the scene quickly for you. Caitlyn Clark is an
Speaker 2: awesome ballplayer and a legit trash talk if we're just
Speaker 2: gonna do the white white comparison, a la Larry Bird
Speaker 2: talks as much trash as anybody and backs it up.
Speaker 3: She talked trash to that Van.
Speaker 2: Lift girl in the Elite eight, did the you can't
Speaker 2: see me to her in this against South Carolina, got
Speaker 2: dared the girl to shoot, told oh, told the Van
Speaker 2: Lift girl shut up, You're down.
Speaker 3: Fifteen the whole nine. Angel Reese at.
Speaker 2: The end of the at the end of the game
Speaker 2: does the you can't see me to Caitlin Clark does
Speaker 2: the Steph Curry pointing it points at a ring finger
Speaker 2: and people get very, very mad. Before I get to
Speaker 2: my thoughts or Demanse's thoughts, public service announcement. Here to
Speaker 2: our wonderful listeners, viewers, We're gonna talk about this and
Speaker 2: race is gonna be a component of it. And if
Speaker 2: the discussion of race makes your head pop off like
Speaker 2: a cartoon mouse, pause the show and come back to
Speaker 2: us in a few minutes. If you're open to having
Speaker 2: listening to an open discussion, stick with us.
Speaker 3: Demonse, why did you tweet I woke up to racism?
Speaker 6: Uh so, obviously I I did take a nap during
Speaker 6: the game like an idiot. And all I did was
Speaker 6: I woke up and I saw a bunch of I
Speaker 6: saw the clip of Angel Reese doing the same exact
Speaker 6: thing that Kaitlin Clark did, and everybody hated it, like
Speaker 6: in the in the words like the uh what was it?
Speaker 4: Uh? Worthless?
Speaker 2: Or class classless, class list.
Speaker 6: It's just like, I don't know, man, and once I
Speaker 6: looked at the game and saw what actually happened she did,
Speaker 6: it wasn't the exact same thing Angel Rees did kind
Speaker 6: of follow her around, you know, made it a big deal.
Speaker 6: Wasn't the same thing. But definitely what she did was
Speaker 6: not warranted for the feedback that she got. Like the
Speaker 6: things that they were saying about this college female athlete
Speaker 6: was just crazy, Like it's just not that.
Speaker 2: So why did you? And I'm sorry to put you
Speaker 2: on the spot here, And you know, because I've talked
Speaker 2: abou this on TV, I agree with you on well,
Speaker 2: I haven't heard you talk about it entirely, so I
Speaker 2: don't know if I totally agree with you, but you know,
Speaker 2: you know where I stand on this. Why did you
Speaker 2: call it racism?
Speaker 6: Because nobody said anything with Kaitlin Clark did it. Nobody
Speaker 6: had a problem with it.
Speaker 2: So here's the deal. And this is why I probably
Speaker 2: shouldn't I wish I probably shouldn't do that little public service.
Speaker 3: Announcement we're gonna talk about race. Tune out.
Speaker 2: These people shouldn't tune out because we've got to be
Speaker 2: able to have honest discussions about this and that IOWA
Speaker 2: team is an essentially all white team. And that's South
Speaker 2: Carolina team that was the defending national champions that was undefeated,
Speaker 2: was essentially an all black team. Same with the LSU team.
Speaker 2: The moment you have in sports an all white teaming,
Speaker 2: it's an all black team. There's a racial component to
Speaker 2: how the game is covered, to how the game is discussed,
Speaker 2: to how the game is viewed.
Speaker 4: And seemed like they wanted to say something else, Man, what.
Speaker 6: Do you mean like in the in the in the
Speaker 6: comments and the quotes like that guy from barstool.
Speaker 2: Oh, that guy you just seem like much of course,
Speaker 2: and he's got a long bad history the and that's
Speaker 2: a separate thing entirely almost, But let me get back
Speaker 2: to just even pre taunt.
Speaker 3: Okay, the dynamics here, there is.
Speaker 2: A knee jerk reaction in media to treating the white
Speaker 2: athlete like an unathletic underdone. This is not, by the way,
Speaker 2: my opinion, this has been. There have been university studies
Speaker 2: that have used that have documented all of the commentary
Speaker 2: about draft prospects in the NFL and the adjectives we
Speaker 2: use to describe then and white athletes consistently get described
Speaker 2: by earned attributes, smart, hardworking, those types of things. Black
Speaker 2: athletes get described by given attributes, talented athletic god given abilities.
Speaker 2: There is there is an undercurrent and that is again
Speaker 2: that's not my opinion, that is documented, studied fact that
Speaker 2: we have a long history of that, and you see
Speaker 2: it all the time in sports. A great white athlete
Speaker 2: gets called, you know, faster than you'd think, sneaky athletic
Speaker 2: coach on the floor.
Speaker 3: Which means smart, sneaky athletics the year at all.
Speaker 2: The time it was I'll take one of the best
Speaker 2: athletes of the last twenty years, one of the most
Speaker 2: physically imposing freaks we've ever seen, JJ Watt. They tried
Speaker 2: to turn into an overachieving underdog. Jj Watt. The dude
Speaker 2: had sixty sacks in three seasons. Well that he had
Speaker 2: three separate twenty sex seasons in a four year stretch,
Speaker 2: one defensive player three times. His brother is a freak
Speaker 2: defensive player of the year. His younger brother's a fullback.
Speaker 2: My guess is they got some good athletic jeans in
Speaker 2: that family produced three NFL players, two of which are
Speaker 2: potential Hall of famers, one of which is no doubt
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer still though, because he's white, you're described
Speaker 2: with again earned attributes. So how does this impact the
Speaker 2: LSU South Carolina. I'm sorry that Iowa South Carolina the
Speaker 2: Iowa LSU game.
Speaker 3: There's an element of we allow and encourage Caitlin Clerk's.
Speaker 2: Swaggery nature in a way we normally wouldn't because we
Speaker 2: are conditioned to look at her as the underdog people.
Speaker 2: And by the way, all get real complete, kind of
Speaker 2: real galaxy brain.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 2: A similar thing happened with Steph Curry. And he's black,
Speaker 2: but he's not big and physically imposing. He's also light
Speaker 2: skinned and he's and he was considered this guy of
Speaker 2: And I know for a fact this really really rubbed
Speaker 2: Lebron the wrong way, that Steph was considered the underdog
Speaker 2: story when it's like, hold on, you mean the guy
Speaker 2: whose dad played in the NBA, the guy who why
Speaker 2: because he went to Davidson, He's an underdog that you know.
Speaker 2: I was damn near homeless growing up, grew up with
Speaker 2: one parent who dealt with her own struggles. But because
Speaker 2: I'm big and imposing, you know what I mean? My
Speaker 2: ride here and again that you it's earned attributes versus
Speaker 2: given attributes. Oh, he had to work for his skill.
Speaker 2: I just was I was just born with mine. Give
Speaker 2: me a break. You see that in sports a lot,
Speaker 2: particularly when you have when you have cross race comparisons.
Speaker 2: So America typically doesn't like arrogance. We like our athletes.
Speaker 2: We prefer false humility to honest arrogance. We prefer athletes
Speaker 2: who we know, they know they're awesome to just thank God,
Speaker 2: thank their teammates, Oh wow, amazing to be here. We
Speaker 2: don't mind it quite as much when it's a white
Speaker 2: athlete because subconsciously or consciously, many of us feel like, wow,
Speaker 2: they are the underdog because you just naturally think they're
Speaker 2: they're they're in a rougher spot. So that's why Caitlin
Speaker 2: Clark didn't catch For all the trash talking, but the moment,
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 3: Not only a black woman doing.
Speaker 2: A bigger, more physically imposing black woman, and she's doing
Speaker 2: it to a white girl.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, folks get upset.
Speaker 2: Because you cannot convince me if that were South Carolina
Speaker 2: there instead of Iowa and Angel Reese did that.
Speaker 3: So here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Everyone's talking about this from the perspective of just you
Speaker 2: got mad when a black girl did it, not when
Speaker 2: a white girl did it. I'm here to tell you
Speaker 2: it is deeper than that, because if South Carolina was
Speaker 2: in that game, not Iowa and Angel Reese had done
Speaker 2: it to a Leah Boston, people would not have been
Speaker 2: as mad. It was not just that she it was
Speaker 2: a black girl doing it. It was that it was
Speaker 2: a black girl doing it to a white girl. And
Speaker 2: people reacted like she was bullying. And nobody likes bullying.
Speaker 2: And I'm here to tell you you know who didn't
Speaker 2: think she was getting bullied Caitlyn Clark, because Caitlin Clark knows.
Speaker 3: Man, I'm better than you.
Speaker 2: You got me, but I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not worried.
Speaker 2: We are athletes. We are two of the best in
Speaker 2: the world of what we do for real, first team
Speaker 2: All Americans. I don't need anyone protecting I don't need
Speaker 2: any want pearl clutching for me.
Speaker 3: But the public does bad with that.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say one other thing where the media does bad.
Speaker 2: We probably don't need to amplify.
Speaker 3: These as much as we do.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: I quote tweeted someone, but I quote tweeted another media member,
Speaker 2: guy that covers baseball for a living, who said Caitlin
Speaker 2: Clark's parents at least know they raised her right. That
Speaker 2: bothered me. Give me a break. She was doing the
Speaker 2: exact again, like the exact same thing.
Speaker 4: One of the less unhinged takes. Though, yes it.
Speaker 3: Well, Keith Oberman called her an a hole.
Speaker 2: I think Portnoy, who's out of his mind on a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff, was way out of line and we
Speaker 2: all know it. So it wasn't It wasn't a straw man.
Speaker 3: It wasn't.
Speaker 2: Oh, this is just folks with seventeen file were trying
Speaker 2: to inflame a race war. It was actual influential people
Speaker 2: being a part of it. But it was not the
Speaker 2: volume that probably a lot of us treated it as
Speaker 2: to where it was the story. But then becomes self
Speaker 2: fulfilling because then angels asked about it, she talks about
Speaker 2: seeing it on Twitter, it becomes a you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Then it becomes a story.
Speaker 6: The timing of it is also crazy, though, how Kaitlin Clark,
Speaker 6: It's not like this is something that happened last year.
Speaker 4: Now. I don't even see how people could take.
Speaker 6: To Twitter with the way that they were talking, given
Speaker 6: that Kaitlin Clark did that same thing six days ago.
Speaker 2: Six days ago, and evidently I didn't see it, but
Speaker 2: that did it at one point to her own bench,
Speaker 2: different against South Carolina, forget against Louisville six days ago.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, sorry, no, no, no, that was it.
Speaker 2: No, it was right there, and it's who we were celebrating.
Speaker 3: They're also there's a lot of.
Speaker 2: Odd dynamics with women's college basketball that so, Page Buckers,
Speaker 2: I might have misproound the last name wrong.
Speaker 3: I apologize.
Speaker 2: Who was the best player in the sport plays for
Speaker 2: Yukon blew out her knee, but unbelievable from the moment
Speaker 2: she got there. She won a major award last year
Speaker 2: and at her speech she said, this is a sport
Speaker 2: carried by black women that white women tend to usually
Speaker 2: get these awards and so, and she was trying to say,
Speaker 2: we need to make sure we shine a light on
Speaker 2: the great black female players as well. So it's complex
Speaker 2: in this regard. If you were to get so, it
Speaker 2: is a women's basketball not as much at the collegiate
Speaker 2: level as men's basketball. But if you were to get
Speaker 2: it is still a majority black sport, but the greatest
Speaker 2: players of all time are disproportionately white. So forget Caitlin
Speaker 2: Clark and Page Brianna Stewart might be the best ever.
Speaker 3: She's white.
Speaker 2: Diana Trazzi, once upon time was considered one of the
Speaker 2: very best ever white. Sue Bird might be the best
Speaker 2: ever white. Now you have Kitlyn Clark, you have Paige
Speaker 2: all that right Now, that's not to disregard Cheryl Miller
Speaker 2: or Cheryl Swoops or Lisa Leslie or Candace Parker, but
Speaker 2: it is the ten best players is a whiter group
Speaker 2: than just the general kind of population of players. So
Speaker 2: why is that? That's a more complicated topic. But there
Speaker 2: is a level of simmering animasi's wrong words, but tension
Speaker 2: within the sport about who gets celebrated who doesn't if
Speaker 2: we're both A plus players. So everybody now knows Caitlyn
Speaker 2: Clark's name. That's in large part because she had one
Speaker 2: of the greatest tournaments ever. Aliah Boston won an actual
Speaker 2: championship last year, team was undefeated this year. She also
Speaker 2: does not look like Caitlin Clark, does not play like
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark. There's a lot of factors here, right, And
Speaker 2: so my point is it is never as simple as
Speaker 2: I think people try to make it out to be,
Speaker 2: even though this one at its base level was very simple.
Speaker 2: People got angry at the black girl, furious with the
Speaker 2: black girl for doing something very similar to what people
Speaker 2: celebrated the white girl for doing.
Speaker 3: You know it was go ahead.
Speaker 6: Also, like what's up with like the level of anger?
Speaker 6: I just feel like some people's level of anger with
Speaker 6: certain things is just unacceptable. Well, you don't have to
Speaker 6: be that angry about it, you know, to call somebody
Speaker 6: out of their name.
Speaker 4: It's not like it's it was in front of the
Speaker 4: sport so like she dragged it.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: So I two answers there.
Speaker 2: One is I think social media inflames everything and people
Speaker 2: are on a ten when they could be on a five.
Speaker 2: I think the other one is this, there are a
Speaker 2: lot of people very angry about racial dynamics in this country,
Speaker 2: and there are people of all colors and creeds angry
Speaker 2: about it. There are white people who think the country
Speaker 2: is being stolen from them, as if it were was
Speaker 2: rightful claim of white people. And there are black people
Speaker 2: who feel like we are going in the wrong direction
Speaker 2: on very important racial justice topics. So when race comes
Speaker 2: into it, knowingly or unknowingly, people run hot, man, they
Speaker 2: run really hot, and people the people they're talking about
Speaker 2: stop being people and start being symbols for what they're
Speaker 2: mad at, and they start being pawns in their bigger
Speaker 2: game of you know what I mean, taking my country
Speaker 2: back whatever it is. And that's I think what happened.
Speaker 3: Uh, Okay, you want to talk about the Warriors.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about the Warriors.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 4: Go ahead.
Speaker 6: Warriors lost to a Yokich listen Nuggets over the weekend. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you said the Warriors winning the title would be the
Speaker 6: death No, for the regular season. You've written off the
Speaker 6: defending champs at this point in this season back on
Speaker 6: back to back years. Now you're saying the Lakers are
Speaker 6: going to win the title because they are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So when the Warriors.
Speaker 6: Winning the title and Steph getting his fifth ring before
Speaker 6: Lebron be the actual worst thing that's ever happened to
Speaker 6: you in your career. No, I think it would be
Speaker 6: the absolute worst thing to happen to you in your career.
Speaker 3: Well, these are two separate things.
Speaker 6: Little rancor thing that we did a while back might
Speaker 6: have to get shifted a little bit where we moved on,
Speaker 6: No where Steph is, but he's going up where.
Speaker 4: Steph at was he top ten.
Speaker 3: He was tenth of the last fifteen tenth so is
Speaker 3: he he was?
Speaker 4: So he was number ten exactly? Yeah, okay, and who was?
Speaker 4: Who is eight?
Speaker 3: And I mean Jack, you jump bass Shack.
Speaker 4: I think you just have to switch him and Lebron.
Speaker 2: Okay, stop it. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 2: All Right, it is. Well, then let's just let's just
Speaker 2: put Russell one and Kareem and Jordan two. We're just
Speaker 2: gonna count the rings. Magic's three steph than ties or
Speaker 2: four magic. That's all we're doing.
Speaker 6: Towns people counting him out, you know, like he's he's
Speaker 6: down in the gutter right now, He's not down in
Speaker 6: the gutter.
Speaker 4: Arguably, this is.
Speaker 6: Like the same thing as Lebron's like twenty thirteen Calves
Speaker 6: team or whatever what caves Okay, sy dragged to the
Speaker 6: finals or whatever.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, twenty thirteen, Lebron played for the Heat.
Speaker 4: Okay, so before.
Speaker 2: That, if you're talking about against the Spurs in two
Speaker 2: thousand and seven.
Speaker 4: Or he had that team of nobody that was the.
Speaker 2: Spur was Lebron was twenty two to two thousand and seven,
Speaker 2: first of all, okay, which is why they can't win
Speaker 2: the title. I got massive respect for Steph Curry. Him
Speaker 2: winning a ring does not all of a sudden catapult
Speaker 2: him to Lebron's status. I'm not even having the argument.
Speaker 2: Lebron has four finals MVP Steph has one. Lebron has four.
Speaker 2: Regular season MVP Steph has two. Lebron has scored the
Speaker 2: most points of anyone. Ever, Lebron's a better defender. I'm
Speaker 2: not having that argument that is not available to us
Speaker 2: on the take platter, because Steph greater than Lebron. Now,
Speaker 2: the reason I said it would be terrible for the
Speaker 2: regular season if the Warriors won the title, Andrew Wiggins
Speaker 2: is just gone for two months, comes back for the postseason.
Speaker 2: The Warriors this year are two and twenty on the
Speaker 2: road against teams five hundred or above. They they've been
Speaker 2: a five hundred team at every turn. If they end
Speaker 2: up winning the title, why would any anyone.
Speaker 3: Care about the regular season? Ever?
Speaker 6: Again, right, it has to matter. You're saying it would
Speaker 6: suck for the sport.
Speaker 2: For the sport, that's what I mean. It would be
Speaker 2: it would just be like, Okay, everyone can just chill
Speaker 2: all regular season. It's five months that doesn't matter at all.
Speaker 2: That would be terrible for the sport.
Speaker 4: Scott Foster enters the change, right That's.
Speaker 3: The point that I was making there.
Speaker 2: Now. The reason I believe in the Lakers right now
Speaker 2: is they've number one deep into the league since trade deadline,
Speaker 2: since the All Star break. I think they're fourteen and six.
Speaker 2: Eight is playing out of his mind. They have a
Speaker 2: rotation that makes sense. Lebron is ramping up they Now.
Speaker 2: What's really interesting is the Lakers, Clippers, Warriors, and Pelicans
Speaker 2: all have thirty eight losses.
Speaker 3: The Lakers actually control their destiny of those teams if
Speaker 3: they went out, they get the five seed. Don't nobody
Speaker 3: want the five seed? The five seed plays Phoenix in
Speaker 3: round one. The sixth seed plays Sacramento. Now I believe
Speaker 3: in lighting the damn beam, but Sacramento's probably an easier
Speaker 3: matchup than Phoenix. With Golden State, the seventh seed gets Memphis,
Speaker 3: the eight seed gets Denver. But if you go to
Speaker 3: the seven line, you're in a play in tournament. You
Speaker 3: gotta play an extra game and you can get eliminated.
Speaker 3: So everyone's gonna want the six You can't really position
Speaker 3: for it. But the Lakers are winning the title. Lebron's
Speaker 3: getting to Ring five, and it is putting the goat
Speaker 3: debate to rest.
Speaker 4: I believe in that.
Speaker 6: I really believe that if Lebron does get a title,
Speaker 6: it puts the goat debate to rest.
Speaker 2: But now you want to know, here's what you don't
Speaker 2: understand about media. Sorry to point at you and say
Speaker 2: what things you don't understand? You want to know what's
Speaker 2: actually bad for my career Lebron putting the goat debate
Speaker 2: to rest? That's actually that for my career? Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that I that It is in my interest for that
Speaker 2: to be a hotly contested debate as long as I'm
Speaker 2: doing media. It's not in my interest for everyone to
Speaker 2: come around and be like, hey, Nick was right, what's next?
Speaker 4: So this is a lose lose ree No if Lebron wins.
Speaker 2: No, because but no. But if I'm telling you right now,
Speaker 2: people won't call him to go. If Lebron went yeah
Speaker 2: in your twenty, people will say they'll find a way.
Speaker 2: People have just decided that it's not available to him
Speaker 2: after the MAVs series in twenty eleven. Next, speaking of
Speaker 2: the MAVs.
Speaker 6: Speaking of bad title picks, okay, let's talk about the MAVs.
Speaker 6: After an overtime lost Atlanta, there reports the MAVs might
Speaker 6: shut down Luka and Kyrie.
Speaker 4: As a whole. The move would be The move.
Speaker 6: Would be to helping sure Dallas keeps their top ten
Speaker 6: protected pick, but would also show they have no faith
Speaker 6: in Luca's ability to win if they go down this path.
Speaker 6: Is there any te Is there any hope of saving
Speaker 6: the Luca MAVs relationship.
Speaker 2: It's a bad versill is bad pick by me?
Speaker 4: Yo.
Speaker 6: I overheard you saying something about nobody can win with Kyrie.
Speaker 4: I don't know what was going on. You said Kyrie,
Speaker 4: it's like a plus minus thing that I got sent.
Speaker 2: Oh are they really good with him on the court.
Speaker 4: No, they're really bad.
Speaker 6: Like it's his versus kyrieesh, who's his? Luca Luca versus Kyrie?
Speaker 6: Luca dontris is minus twenty two on the MAVs. I
Speaker 6: guess Luca's been on the MAVs.
Speaker 3: Can I see it?
Speaker 2: Can I see Region hoops or league past fifteen games?
Speaker 2: Luca's minus twenty there minus twenty two with Luke on
Speaker 2: the court. They're plus six or two with Kyrie on
Speaker 2: the court. So yeah, the past. Listen Passifian games. I'm
Speaker 2: in the best for Luca. My born on Kyrie is
Speaker 2: very very simple. Kyrie in twenty sixteen was the second
Speaker 2: best player on a champion. Twenty seventeen, he was the
Speaker 2: second best player on an even better team. They just
Speaker 2: did win, but they were going. They had been to
Speaker 2: three straight finals. He demands out of that situation, goes
Speaker 2: to Boston. His first year with Boston, they make the
Speaker 2: conference finals, but he does not play. He is injured
Speaker 2: in that playoff run. He then does play the next year,
Speaker 2: they lose in round two. He demands out of there.
Speaker 2: He goes to Brooklyn, they make round two, he gets hurt.
Speaker 2: The next year he's there, they get swept in round one.
Speaker 2: Now then he demands out of there. He goes to Dallas.
Speaker 2: They are the four seed when he arrives, they are
Speaker 2: going to miss the playoffs. That is a seven year
Speaker 2: downward trajectory.
Speaker 6: So when Luca first, I mean Luka, But when Kyrie
Speaker 6: first left the Cavs, when after they won the finals.
Speaker 2: With the well, it was the year after the finals
Speaker 2: they had just lost to Katie and the Warriors.
Speaker 4: Is this something that I'm missing? Was there something going
Speaker 4: on with this contract, Like no, he he he just wanted.
Speaker 3: He wanted to run his own team.
Speaker 6: Okay, I think made one bad, Like I think he's
Speaker 6: like a little tantrum and then like it's just like
Speaker 6: winning a downward spiral wherever.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he also went a little.
Speaker 6: I think had he not left the Calves then well, yeah,
Speaker 6: none of this would have.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, but he wanted to go run
Speaker 2: his own team and staid he went to Boston. He'd
Speaker 2: walk into UH team meetings and Brad Stevens would say
Speaker 2: to him, how are you doing today? And he would
Speaker 2: literally say to him, what does the word government mean
Speaker 2: to you? And then he would start talking about the
Speaker 2: Earth being flat and then he would start talking about
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not and I'm not anti vax, I'm
Speaker 2: just pro freedom. And then and by the way, some
Speaker 2: of the stuff Kyrie Dove is really really good off
Speaker 2: the court, incredibly charitable, really really loyal guy, all those
Speaker 2: ever and yeah, I mean so, I mean just whatever,
Speaker 2: I don't think you win with him, and the MAVs
Speaker 2: are stuck. They traded their best defender, they trade assets,
Speaker 2: he's their guy. It obviously doesn't work. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: the day they traded for him. I said this will
Speaker 2: be in the first paragraph of the story, when Luca
Speaker 2: eventually demands a trade the maps of Luka. Doncic has
Speaker 2: a chance to be one of the five greatest offensive
Speaker 2: players in the.
Speaker 3: History of the sport.
Speaker 2: This season hurts him. Now, it should be noted a
Speaker 2: Key missed the playoffs in his prime. Kareem missed it
Speaker 2: back to back years in his prime. All time greats
Speaker 2: missed the playoffs occasionally in their prime. It doesn't usually
Speaker 2: happen to Kobe missed the playoffs once in his prime.
Speaker 2: Doesn't usually happen, but it does happen, but it's not
Speaker 2: good for him.
Speaker 4: How funny would it be if Luke ended up going
Speaker 4: to play with Lebron?
Speaker 2: Well, Bill Bill Simmons speculated that Lebron's gonna go to Dallas.
Speaker 2: Lebron and Dramont going to Dallas.
Speaker 4: Disgusting.
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, next, all right when it comes to MVP,
Speaker 6: A little bit confused. So we got Giannis is the
Speaker 6: clear best player in the league. Yeah, bullied everyone's pick
Speaker 6: for MVP. Yeah, why are we not just giving the
Speaker 6: MVP the honest Well, the last time he played the
Speaker 6: Nuggets was in January?
Speaker 3: Correct, the last time well.
Speaker 4: Yanni's played the Nugget.
Speaker 2: I don't know the last time they played, but I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure.
Speaker 3: I mean, they'll only play twice a year because.
Speaker 4: So listen.
Speaker 3: My opinion on this is very simple. Jannison Embiid.
Speaker 6: What happened they played a week ago? I can said
Speaker 6: I didn't know they played a week ago? That the
Speaker 6: Bucks versus the Nuggets.
Speaker 2: Oh, in a game Yogic didn't play though, right, that's
Speaker 2: the game Jokic sat out or am I tripping?
Speaker 3: I I I could be wrong on that. Let me Oh, they.
Speaker 4: Both both played.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm out of my mind as well. They're
Speaker 2: my apologies. Oh no, I'm sorry. I'm getting Yiannis and
Speaker 2: Embiid confused. Embiid sat out against Jokic on the the
Speaker 2: Nuggets beat the Bucks. I'm looking at it now. Janni's
Speaker 2: had a great game. Jokic had a great game as well. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and the Nuggets beat the Bucks. But set that aside.
Speaker 3: Here's the deal. Jokic is now sitting out games. He's
Speaker 3: won two in a row.
Speaker 6: Maybe the what go Ahead beat the Warriors?
Speaker 4: That hurts his MVP to eight.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it should, but it does. They
Speaker 2: beat the Warriors without him. Everyone's like, ah that he's
Speaker 2: carrying this terrible team.
Speaker 4: They the Warriors suck on the road, So I shouldn't.
Speaker 2: The Well, no, I just I it's not nothing. I
Speaker 2: think it's right now down to between Yiannis and mb
Speaker 2: Yiannis is the best player. However, if it is, I
Speaker 2: am and I don't want.
Speaker 3: We've gone so long, we don't have to spend more
Speaker 3: time on this.
Speaker 2: If it is a coin flip, giving it to the
Speaker 2: guy who's never won one is totally fine with me.
Speaker 2: And Drew Holiday came out and said, you know, Yannis
Speaker 2: has been MVP too much and people are.
Speaker 4: Bored of it.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. I get it, but Yannis's second MVP.
Speaker 2: He benefit from that because in twenty twenty Lebron the
Speaker 2: Lakers are the best record in the league. Lebron changed
Speaker 2: positions and won the assist title, did all of that
Speaker 2: in the tougher conference at the time, and came in second.
Speaker 2: Because people have been sick of Lebron. Lebron already had four,
Speaker 2: Janis had just won one. They gave it to Giannis.
Speaker 3: So now if it's a coin flip between ya.
Speaker 2: It's to call it a three headed coin between Giannis,
Speaker 2: Embiid and Jokic. Embiid's averaging more points per game this
Speaker 2: season than any center in forty five years. He's averaging
Speaker 2: more points per game this season than any player in
Speaker 2: forty years other than Harden, Kobe, and Michael. He's never
Speaker 2: won one.
Speaker 3: Embiid's got your, Jokic has two, Janis has two. Let
Speaker 3: Embiid win it.
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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in What drav with Nick Write
Speaker 2: episode one thirty nine. We went forty minutes in that
Speaker 2: first segment, and I've got got a busy.
Speaker 4: Day to day.
Speaker 2: Leave here do the Herd and I don't host, but
Speaker 2: I go on with Colin. Then I do my show,
Speaker 2: then I do Collins podcast, doing just wall to wall media.
Speaker 2: Then I watch the Lakers win again, maybe watch the
Speaker 2: Warriors loose to the thunder. Oh boy, what a night ahead. Also,
Speaker 2: by the way, the Lakers is such bs. Lakers play
Speaker 2: the Clippers one of the biggest games of the year. Tomorrow.
Speaker 3: The Lakers play tonight. The Clippers will have not played
Speaker 3: since April.
Speaker 2: First, the Clippers get four days off, the Lakers on
Speaker 2: a back to back before Game eighty outrage. All right, next, demons,
Speaker 2: what are we talking about?
Speaker 4: A new NBA.
Speaker 6: CBA goes into effects starting next year, and there's some
Speaker 6: major changes. Yeah, positionless all NBA sixty five game minimums
Speaker 6: for award eligibility. Yeah, and end season tournament highlight. A
Speaker 6: few of the reported big change or a few of
Speaker 6: the reported big changes. Sorry, even Lebron may be able
Speaker 6: to get another star. Now that teams can have three
Speaker 6: max players, that's three max contract.
Speaker 2: Oh so, like there's rules about how many guys on
Speaker 2: a super Max you can have. You still have to
Speaker 2: fit it under the cap. It's complicated. It's just it's
Speaker 2: to encourage teams that draft well to be able to
Speaker 2: max out their all their guys. So that is I'm
Speaker 2: trying to think of the team that is particularly good
Speaker 2: for like the Caves. So they draft Garland, they drafted Mobile,
Speaker 2: they traded for Donovan Mitchell. Donovan Mitchell's already on a Supermax.
Speaker 2: Now you'll be able to max out those guys. There's
Speaker 2: some other things that are good for the Celtics, the
Speaker 2: raises you can give help them, maybe keep Jalen Brown.
Speaker 2: All of that. The sixty five game minimum for award eligibility,
Speaker 2: I think is interesting. I do wonder if guys will
Speaker 2: sacrifice their overall averages. Like let's say they're at sixty
Speaker 2: three games and they want to rest the final two
Speaker 2: games of the year. Well, they check into a game
Speaker 2: for one minute and check out, so they get a
Speaker 2: game played, but then they get zero's across the board, right,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So we'll see how that works.
Speaker 2: But the thing that kills me is the positionless All NBA.
Speaker 2: There are two people in the world that seem to
Speaker 2: care about this, Me and Bill Simmons. It's an It's
Speaker 2: horrible for historical snapshots. So I understand the idea behind them.
Speaker 2: So let me tell you the idea behind it. The
Speaker 2: idea behind positionless All NBA is people were upset that
Speaker 2: last year. For example, for the last two years, Joel
Speaker 2: Embiid finished second in MVP voting and was not first
Speaker 2: Team All NBA because the guy who finished first was
Speaker 2: a center, same position.
Speaker 3: Nikola jokis right, And.
Speaker 2: People didn't like the fact that if we go back to,
Speaker 2: for example, the mid twenty tens, when there were no
Speaker 2: centers in the league, guys like Andre Drummond Al Jefferson
Speaker 2: were making All NBA teams when great players were not
Speaker 2: because we didn't have enough good centers. They'd be a
Speaker 2: third team center. That's why they did it. So now
Speaker 2: they're like, just I have the All NBA teams be
Speaker 2: the fifteen best players. The problem is that ruins our
Speaker 2: ability to use this as a snapshot of each season.
Speaker 2: Who was the best at each spot. So let me
Speaker 2: tell you why it's bad, then give you the solution.
Speaker 2: So there's no way to watch the nineteen you know,
Speaker 2: early nineteen sixties basketball. Really but and go back at
Speaker 2: the All NBA list, Wilton Russell?
Speaker 3: Who is better that year?
Speaker 2: Well, in sixty they were the two best players in
Speaker 2: the sport for a decade, right, only one All NBA spot.
Speaker 2: Nineteen sixty It went to Will sixty one, It went
Speaker 2: to Will sixty two, It went to Will sixty three
Speaker 2: to Russell sixty four, to Wilt sixty five, to Russell
Speaker 2: sixty six to Will, went back and forth. Now let's
Speaker 2: go to the mid eighties, right, So the mid eighties
Speaker 2: you have Magic and Isaiah playing guard. So in nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty six, nineteen eighty five, for example, Magic and Isaiah
Speaker 2: first team rookie, Michael Jordan second team.
Speaker 3: Was he better than Bernard King that year?
Speaker 2: I don't know who made first team at the forward,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but he wasn't better than Magic and Isaiah.
Speaker 2: The very next year, Magic and Isaiah again, Jordan was hurt.
Speaker 2: The next year, Magic and Michael Isaiah even though he's
Speaker 2: about to go on a run, of three straight finals,
Speaker 2: relegated to the second team. UH eighty eight, Magic and
Speaker 2: Michael again, Isaiah not on any of the teams, and
Speaker 2: now it's center by the way, a chem Elajau on
Speaker 2: first team, Patrick Ewing's second team. It is Simmons brought
Speaker 2: this up, and he's right. Early two thousands, who were
Speaker 2: the we have in the league playing power forward? Playing
Speaker 2: forward Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Chris Weber, Tracy McGrady, Derk Novitzky? Right,
Speaker 2: who were the two best forwards that matters well? In
Speaker 2: two three, who's Duncan and Garnett. Dirk and c got
Speaker 2: relegated to second team. In four it was Garnett and
Speaker 2: Duncan again, in five it was Duncan and Dirk. Now
Speaker 2: Lebron's into the fold. Now Len now the best forwards.
Speaker 2: We've got Lebron involved. Shortly thereafter Kevin Durant comes involved well,
Speaker 2: So those two forward spots are just locked up every year.
Speaker 2: So I don't care how good you are, Blake Griffin,
Speaker 2: You're not better than Durant or Lebron. Like So here's
Speaker 2: the solution. Because third Team All NBA has only existed
Speaker 2: since eighty nine. First Team All NBA, two guards, two forwards,
Speaker 2: one center. Second Team All NBA two guards, two forwards,
Speaker 2: one center, Third Team All NBA, the five best guys
Speaker 2: who didn't.
Speaker 3: Make one of the first two teams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that way we still get the historical snapshot. You
Speaker 2: don't have the problem of a guy who's the thirty
Speaker 2: first best player in the league, but the third best
Speaker 2: center stealing a spot.
Speaker 3: And we do it that way. That's not how they
Speaker 3: did it. So I hate it.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: Again, I think it's only me and Bill Simmons who care.
Speaker 2: But I care a lot and it bothers me. So
Speaker 2: Like the other thing is, so Kobe for a half
Speaker 2: decade had a lot on First Team All NBA.
Speaker 3: So that means all.
Speaker 2: The other guards in the league, it's only one spot available.
Speaker 2: So who's it gonna go to? So like, oh six,
Speaker 2: it's Nash oh seven, it's Nash oh eight, It's Chris Paul,
Speaker 2: oh nine, it's d Wade twenty ten, It's d Wade
Speaker 2: twenty eleven, it's Derek Rose twenty twelve, it's Chris Paul again,
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, it's Chris Paul again. Then Kobe's done now
Speaker 2: just guards, right, twenty fourteen, Harden and CP three. Then
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, Steph Lay's claim to a spot for a
Speaker 2: half decade, So who's gonna be the other one? Twenty
Speaker 2: fifteen it's Harden, twenty sixteen, it's Russ. Twenty seventeen, it's
Speaker 2: Harden and Russ because Steph got penalized because Durant was
Speaker 2: on the team. Twenty eighteen, it's Harden than Lillard. Twenty nineteen,
Speaker 2: it's hardening Steph again. Also the forward position, Lebron's got
Speaker 2: basically one first team spot on lock for twelve years,
Speaker 2: So who's going to be the forward alongside Lebron? I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do that real quick and we can move on
Speaker 2: because starting in O eight, Lebron was first team forward
Speaker 2: every year. So in O eight, it's Garnett relegated to
Speaker 2: second team, is Dirk and Duncan. In O nine, it's
Speaker 2: Dirk relegated to second team, is Duncan and Pierce. In
Speaker 2: twenty ten, Durant comes into the league. Now Mellow and
Speaker 2: Dirk are relegated the second team. Twenty eleven, it's Durant again. Twelve,
Speaker 2: it's Durant again. Twenty thirteen it's Durant again. Twenty fourteen,
Speaker 2: it's Durant again. Twenty fifteen, Durant's hurt. It's Anthony Davis
Speaker 2: oh Ad popped up. Twenty sixteen, Durant's healthy. Lebron's got
Speaker 2: one of those spots available. Is Durant first team that year?
Speaker 4: Nope?
Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard took the spot. Twenty seventeen Durant healthy. Does
Speaker 2: he have that spot alongside Lebron? Nope, Kawhi Leonard has it.
Speaker 2: Twenty eighteen, Durant takes it back. Twenty nineteen, Lebron gets hurt.
Speaker 2: Yannas steps into the fold. Now Yanna's is first team
Speaker 2: every year?
Speaker 3: You laughing at me?
Speaker 4: No, I mean this is this is a bit.
Speaker 2: It's just this is how we can talk. It's it's
Speaker 2: important for this history of the sport. So twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: Yanis locks up one of those forward spots. So now
Speaker 2: the question is who's gonna have it alongside Giannis Lebron
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, Kawhi in twenty twenty one, them in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. This year, probably Tatum again alongside the
Speaker 2: honest this stuff matters.
Speaker 3: It bothers me.
Speaker 4: Next, Oh, I think that the fix that you you provide,
Speaker 4: it's a it's a good one.
Speaker 2: It's a good fix. They should have done it, all right.
Speaker 6: Many consider March Madness the best event in sports. Yeah,
Speaker 6: even if you're a hater.
Speaker 4: There's only one.
Speaker 6: There's only way, one way to determine the true number
Speaker 6: one postseason slash tournament in sports. Yeah, with a bracket
Speaker 6: to unpack it. So we've got best postseason's ish bracket
Speaker 6: is what we're calling it.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I like it.
Speaker 6: So there's probably gonna be a graphic if you guys
Speaker 6: are watching on YouTube. Yeah, for those listening on the podcast,
Speaker 6: I will list them. Uh so one through eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so here they are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the seeded as following NFL playoffs, March Madness,
Speaker 2: World Cup, NBA Playoffs, the Masters College Football Playoffs, Wimbledon.
Speaker 2: And the number eight is the World Series, which I
Speaker 2: assume means the World Series of poker, because the World Series.
Speaker 3: We don't talk baseball in the shows. So who cooked you?
Speaker 4: So I think we were?
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's all right, don't worry about it. So
Speaker 2: it's one versus eight. So the producers did a very
Speaker 2: interesting thing. Initially they had the one seed as the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. They smartly changed it to the entirety of
Speaker 2: the NFL Playoffs, which does complicate things a bit, But
Speaker 2: the NFL Playoffs obviously beats the World Series of Poker.
Speaker 2: I love the Masters. The Masters is only four days.
Speaker 2: The NBA Playoffs is the best two months on the
Speaker 2: sports calendar. So then we have the NBA Playoffs on
Speaker 2: one side of the bracket against the NFL Playoffs. These
Speaker 2: should be the top two seeds. They should be meeting
Speaker 2: in the finals. Let's go to the other side of
Speaker 2: the bracket if we can March March madness.
Speaker 4: No, I mean in college football.
Speaker 2: No, just look at the screen, buddy, March madness against Wimbledon.
Speaker 6: Yeah no, no, no, I was just staying the winner.
Speaker 2: Oh I got.
Speaker 3: Oh no, Wimbledon.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I see Wimbledon far more than I enjoy March madness.
Speaker 4: Okay, I do.
Speaker 2: It's a higher level, it's higher quality, it's the best
Speaker 2: in the world. It's not a bunch of misshots. San
Speaker 2: Diego State had like twelve points at the under eight yesterday.
Speaker 3: Give me a break.
Speaker 2: Wimbledon, and I like the World Cup more than the
Speaker 2: college football playoff, but it's only every four years.
Speaker 3: We'll still advance the World Cup.
Speaker 2: So now our semi finals are the NFL Playoffs against
Speaker 2: the NBA playoffs, America's games, and Wimbledon against the World
Speaker 2: Cup the World's games. This is a tough one, but
Speaker 2: my favorite two months of the year, the ones that
Speaker 2: are starting in two weeks we're advancing the NBA playoffs.
Speaker 2: Here's the deal with the NFL regular season is far
Speaker 2: superior to any other regular season by a mile, But
Speaker 2: there are only thirteen playoff games. By the way, in
Speaker 2: any single elimination tournament, do you know, everybody out there,
Speaker 2: any single elimination tournament, do you know how to determine
Speaker 2: how many games are played? So like March Madness has
Speaker 2: sixty eight teams, how many games are there?
Speaker 4: Do you know March Madness says sixty eight sixty.
Speaker 2: Eight teams, or how many games do you think there are?
Speaker 2: Keep this, keep this it might stop stop stop stop stop.
Speaker 2: The NFL playoffs is fourteen teams. There's thirteen games. However
Speaker 2: many teams there are, there is one less game.
Speaker 3: You know why. Everybody's got to lose once except for
Speaker 3: the champion.
Speaker 2: So for however many teams, I don't get if you
Speaker 2: have one hundred and twenty eight team tournament. You know
Speaker 2: how many games you're playing one twenty seven? Do you
Speaker 2: have an eight team tournament? If it's single elimination, how
Speaker 2: many games you're playing seven? Because everybody's got to lose once.
Speaker 2: That's the answer there. The NFL Playoffs gonna do with
Speaker 2: sin coast ten sign co sign tangent.
Speaker 3: I don't think so, but I'm not a geometry guy,
Speaker 3: so I'll be I do like sin So.
Speaker 2: NBA Playoffs beat the NFL Playoffs. The World Cup beats Wimbledon,
Speaker 2: and we have the NBA Playoffs against the World Cup,
Speaker 2: and the NBA Playoffs are winning just two months of
Speaker 2: greatness every single year. That's my winner, my champions, the
Speaker 2: NBA Playoffs. I would have had the NBA Playoffs meeting
Speaker 2: the NFL Playoffs in the finals, but these bracketologists, way
Speaker 2: overseeded March madness, give me a break, way overseeded March madness,
Speaker 2: and we are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there it is. It's the NBA Playoffs, all right.
Speaker 2: Listener questions for me and making her What's Right debut Diora,
Speaker 2: that's next, What's Right? Welcome back? In episode one nine?
Speaker 2: What's Right with Nick?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: So for loyal viewers and listeners. You know Demanse moving
Speaker 2: to LA ten days from now. Apartment locked in, job,
Speaker 2: locked in, job's been locked in working for Fox. He
Speaker 2: will continue doing the podcast from LA once football season
Speaker 2: gets going, maybe a little before then. But as you
Speaker 2: guys know, there's a family business. One member of the
Speaker 2: family has not been on the show before. I'm not
Speaker 2: being allowed to or this is high energy, something your
Speaker 2: brother struggled with for months, and something you are going
Speaker 2: to learn. This is Diora, my middle child. Once upon
Speaker 2: a time I publicly called her my favorite child.
Speaker 3: She has lost that designation.
Speaker 2: Oh, they's just it is, you know, let me rephrase it.
Speaker 2: It's up in the air. Your brother's done. It's such
Speaker 2: a wonderful job with this this last year. It's been
Speaker 2: so helpful, so eager to do it. You, on the
Speaker 2: other hand, I had to twist your arm to be
Speaker 2: a part of this as your bridge project for school.
Speaker 3: You don't remember what what do you not remember?
Speaker 7: I think you're making things up?
Speaker 3: Actually, what do you think I'm making up?
Speaker 7: You never asked me to do this before.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, you're starting your broadcast career with a lie.
Speaker 2: That's how you want to start. I understand that you're
Speaker 2: an actress, and so Door is a theater majors. She'll
Speaker 2: be going off to college next year, so this will
Speaker 2: be wonderful time for us to spend together. You were
Speaker 2: sitting there watching the YouTube stream, reading the comments. What
Speaker 2: was well before we even get to those comments, would
Speaker 2: you like to introduce yourself to the audience? Sure, okay,
Speaker 2: go ahead, right, look just look at me, just keep
Speaker 2: talking to me.
Speaker 7: So my name is Diora. Right, I'm seventeen years old,
Speaker 7: and I'm going to college this year, and I'm going
Speaker 7: to be doing the podcast for like the next month
Speaker 7: or so.
Speaker 2: Yep, maybe a little bit more than a month.
Speaker 3: But yeah, what are your interests? Likes, dislikes?
Speaker 7: Okay, so I like hang out with my friends. I
Speaker 7: dislike my father.
Speaker 3: Let me think, Uh, are you a big sports fan? People?
Speaker 7: No, I'm not.
Speaker 3: Do you play any sports? People want to know?
Speaker 7: I play volleyball?
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean you're in the arts.
Speaker 4: What does that have to do with literally anything? Well?
Speaker 3: Not everyone can have everything. Your brother, I'm on track.
Speaker 4: I'm on track.
Speaker 2: I did volleyball this year.
Speaker 3: That is true.
Speaker 2: That is true, But I wouldn't if we were describing
Speaker 2: you to the audience athlete was not the first thing
Speaker 2: that would come to mind.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't bring up sports.
Speaker 2: You do.
Speaker 3: Do you watch any sports?
Speaker 7: I watched basketball?
Speaker 3: Do yours into basketball? Likes going to nets games?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Which is what It's good.
Speaker 2: You're going to be a part of us when the
Speaker 2: NBA playoffs are starting. You and I are gonna be
Speaker 2: able to watch a ton of basketball together. See, you
Speaker 2: weren't in it. You don't sound excited about it. Your
Speaker 2: brother wasn't excited about watching football with me end up
Speaker 2: being one of his favorite things. Do you think you
Speaker 2: will gamble on the sports the way your brother has? No, No,
Speaker 2: you won't gamble on the sports.
Speaker 3: No, okay, all right, you ready to answer some listen?
Speaker 3: Is there anything else you want to say?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: Door is the You're real quick. You're going to college
Speaker 3: to major.
Speaker 7: In theater, theater, acting, acting for stage and screen.
Speaker 2: Right, and so one of the reasons she's doing this
Speaker 2: is because it gives you. I was forced screen presence,
Speaker 2: interacting in front of a camera, things like that, right, Okay?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: From uh Anthony Phillips, do youorra what's your favorite role
Speaker 2: you've acted in?
Speaker 3: Any role in the future you want to.
Speaker 2: Play hm hmm.
Speaker 7: I think one of my favorite roles that I've played
Speaker 7: is I recently did the play named Amily, and I
Speaker 7: played Elton John in this musical and it was just
Speaker 7: like a small snapshot, but it was my favorite song
Speaker 7: that I've sang before. And one one musical I've always
Speaker 7: wanted to do is Rent and I've always wanted to
Speaker 7: be either Maureen.
Speaker 2: Or Yeah Maureene.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Question.
Speaker 2: Can we tack your Elton John solo onto the end
Speaker 2: of this show?
Speaker 3: Can we do?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 7: I don't know about that later.
Speaker 3: Maybe a later thing.
Speaker 2: Diora crushed it as Elton John did great.
Speaker 7: Sound like the Frosted Flakes guy when you said.
Speaker 2: That, Okay, thank you appreciate that.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Shane Coates asks is Nick the same on and off
Speaker 2: the show or just a little bit acting different?
Speaker 5: How is he?
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, yes, he's just loud. It's a little bit of acting.
Speaker 7: He tries to be cooler around his audience, but I
Speaker 7: guess you could say he's kind of the same.
Speaker 2: What do you mean, try to be cooler around my audience,
Speaker 2: try to.
Speaker 7: Like just act like, oh no, it's all fun, Like
Speaker 7: you know, guys, I'm just I know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 7: He doesn't know what he's talking about all the time.
Speaker 7: But that's okay, that's okay. None of us can be perfect.
Speaker 2: When I'm talking about this stuff, I know what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about all the time. That's my job is to
Speaker 2: be prepared, buttoned up, to be the expert.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: There's two ways to get into my field. You either
Speaker 2: lived it or you loved it. You lived it, you
Speaker 2: were a pro athlete. That can be like, this is
Speaker 2: what's happened in the locker room. Here's what the coach
Speaker 2: is saying. You loved it, you learned everything you could
Speaker 2: about it, and you become an expert opinion.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 2: Uh, Tim g asks, do any of your friends ever
Speaker 2: find out who Nick is and want to meet him
Speaker 2: or talk to him?
Speaker 7: It wasn't really much of a thing until more recently,
Speaker 7: but most of the kids at my school do know
Speaker 7: who he is. And it's just like the casual like
Speaker 7: passing in the hallways, like tell your dad I said hey,
Speaker 7: or tell your dad that I think blah blah blah,
Speaker 7: tell your dad he should come to our basketball game
Speaker 7: on Friday. Stuff like that. But it's never really anything
Speaker 7: serious until It's like something I post on Instagram or
Speaker 7: something and some random strangers just like yo, can I
Speaker 7: meet your dad?
Speaker 2: Or like no, the let me read another one of
Speaker 2: these here. Uh, this is from Matthew Cook. Do you
Speaker 2: were what skills are you hoping to get from being
Speaker 2: a part of the show, Like, what do you have
Speaker 2: to report on for school?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 7: For school? For my bridge project is what it's called.
Speaker 7: It's like student run projects kind of. I just told
Speaker 7: them that I was doing the podcast to learn how
Speaker 7: to gain a state like a screen presence and be
Speaker 7: able to put my name out there.
Speaker 2: Basically, Uh, all right, question for me, are you going
Speaker 2: to read the comments post appearance? Of course I would
Speaker 2: strongly say you should.
Speaker 3: Wow, I don't.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing I think most people, Here's here's my opinion.
Speaker 2: The vast majority of people will be nice. You will
Speaker 2: disregard all of the people who are nice, and then
Speaker 2: the selestruct who are mean. It will not be constructive.
Speaker 2: It will be hateful directed towards.
Speaker 3: Me, and you will be shrapnel for it.
Speaker 2: Also to someone the handful of people who wrote uh gus,
Speaker 2: most notably Nick, do you do this just to prove
Speaker 2: you're down for the cause. So by that I assume
Speaker 2: the cause they mean black people and to prove I'm
Speaker 2: down for it. Here's the thing.
Speaker 3: This is my goddamn family.
Speaker 2: So I there's no there, there's no like. I'm not
Speaker 2: bringing play actors. The door doesn't leave and you go
Speaker 2: to go, so go somewhere else. This is just this
Speaker 2: is my You guys have met my wife, my youngest daughter,
Speaker 2: my oldest son, and now my middle daughter. Uh let
Speaker 2: me read a couple more of these and then we'll
Speaker 2: move on. By the way, our YouTube comments typically are
Speaker 2: quite nice, but what were Were there any comments you
Speaker 2: saw earlier from me and demonse that you wanted to
Speaker 2: chime in on.
Speaker 3: No, no, you're good.
Speaker 2: Uh, all right. Justin Dubail asks, as they're just getting
Speaker 2: to know you, and then we'll do you know, when
Speaker 2: dor is in deceeat full time, we'll do more straightforward shows.
Speaker 2: But this is a good introductory. Justin Dubail says, what's
Speaker 2: your biggest pet peeve when it comes to your dad?
Speaker 4: That's a good one. Do I have to pick one?
Speaker 2: You know what, Let's just see where you take it.
Speaker 7: Go ahead, one of my pet peeves, I don't know
Speaker 7: allowed to say that?
Speaker 4: Go ahead.
Speaker 7: He spends like an hour on the toilet.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's really it's a hell of an introduction.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what, that's my introduction.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 7: Another one is how you're always right on everything.
Speaker 2: Well, that's I understand why that's frustrating.
Speaker 7: Sometimes he's not and he doesn't know if he's right yet,
Speaker 7: so he just he he gains that like he's like,
Speaker 7: I know it. I know it, even if he doesn't actually,
Speaker 7: but he just didn't.
Speaker 2: I come to you in the kitchen just the other
Speaker 2: day and say, hey, that thing I don't even remember
Speaker 2: what it was that we were discussing the other day.
Speaker 2: I was wrong and you were right on and you
Speaker 2: kind of looked at me like I was crazy, Like
Speaker 2: why are you telling me this? And I was like,
Speaker 2: I think it's important to acknowledge when you're wrong. Yeah.
Speaker 7: It was so passive aggression. It was so passive aggressive.
Speaker 7: I feel as if it's important when I tell you
Speaker 7: when I'm wrong, because it doesn't happen that often.
Speaker 2: Well I did say it doesn't happen that often, but
Speaker 2: this is a skill. You. Here's the thing, whether you
Speaker 2: want to acknowledge it or not, that I'm always right
Speaker 2: even when I'm wrong, I believe I'm right.
Speaker 3: You got that exact trait for me.
Speaker 2: And you get mad, well, because you're not right as
Speaker 2: often as I am. You're seventeen. You understand you don't
Speaker 2: have the wisdom of years in front behind you. It's
Speaker 2: all I mean. Listen, there are so many things, and
Speaker 2: I think the audience will see it. So do you
Speaker 2: ever thinks I'm annoying and.
Speaker 3: Whack and all these things? She also adores me.
Speaker 2: However, so many of your best and least best, we'll
Speaker 2: call it traits you got directly from me.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't give yourself that much credit.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't. No, Okay, somebody asked, can you gamble at seventeen?
Speaker 3: You can't.
Speaker 2: But she turns eighteen in three and a half weeks,
Speaker 2: which is a wild situation. Eighteenth birthday coming up, prom
Speaker 2: coming up, yeap, graduation coming up, all in the next
Speaker 2: like three months, all the next three months, your national
Speaker 2: television and podcast debut.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Sometimes these shows are all on FS one.
Speaker 3: They broadcast them like overnight.
Speaker 7: You never told me that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well there you go.
Speaker 2: Maybe you can get your SAG card early. All these things.
Speaker 2: This is gonna be great. Scoot by the way, I
Speaker 2: call her Scoot. So what it's not allowed?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll try.
Speaker 2: I'll do my best, but if I refer to you
Speaker 2: as that, I want them to know who it is.
Speaker 3: I have a hug this one. No, this was so
Speaker 3: special for me. This was great.
Speaker 2: Oh, Demont's taking a picture. This is so great. Aren't
Speaker 2: you happy? I'm so happy right now. Now everyone in
Speaker 2: the family's been on the show. You're gonna be amazing
Speaker 2: at this.
Speaker 7: He's gonna make a speech about this at what do
Speaker 7: you mean you're little guys. I just want everyone to
Speaker 7: know that I just I really appreciate all of you guys,
Speaker 7: and this past week is just it just really warms
Speaker 7: my heart.
Speaker 2: I do give sentimental dinner toasts.
Speaker 7: He just but it's not a toast. He just decides,
Speaker 7: like every once in a while, he just wants to
Speaker 7: do like some just like random, just like dad, like
Speaker 7: really hardcore dad moment.
Speaker 3: Isn't that nice?
Speaker 2: Don't you think you're gonna think back on that when
Speaker 2: you're older and be like, ah, my dad really loved me.
Speaker 7: I think I'm definitely gonna think back on it, But
Speaker 7: I don't know if that'll be What's going What.
Speaker 2: Right Episode one Thursday. Duor will be here Demon's to
Speaker 2: see you guys.
Speaker 6: Then