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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sandy and Samantha, and welcome to stuff

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Speaker 1: I never told you, reprection of iHeartRadio, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: another edition of Happy Hour. As always, if you were

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Speaker 1: choosing to drink or whatever you're choosing to do, please

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Speaker 1: do so responsibly. Samantha, are you sipping on anything?

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Speaker 2: I am And this is not a sponsor just f YI.

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Speaker 3: But I decided because I couldn't find my usual diet

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Speaker 3: sodas that I do have some diet sodas that I

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Speaker 3: drink every now and again, that I found the seven

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Speaker 3: up Charley Temple.

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Speaker 2: Who one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so they just recently came out with this, and

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Speaker 3: so I was like, I'm gonna taste.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna try it out. And I think maybe it's because.

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Speaker 3: It's the Zero Shore one that I got, that maybe

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Speaker 3: it's not as good as I hope, but I think

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Speaker 3: I just what I discovered is I like tart drinks,

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Speaker 3: so fruity they drinks, and this is a little sweeter

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Speaker 3: for being a Zero Show one, but like you know,

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Speaker 3: because it has that vanilla kind of ish flavoring. But anyway,

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Speaker 3: so yeah, that's what I'm so being on. What about

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Speaker 3: you throwing it back all school? The Shirley Temples.

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Speaker 1: That is interesting. I am drinking some red wine. But

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Speaker 1: I have to say for this episode, I was going

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Speaker 1: to try to make a cocktail for a very specific reason,

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Speaker 1: and that is because our a good friend of the show,

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Speaker 1: good friend in real life, Holly Fry, has a new

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Speaker 1: book called Killer Cocktails Dangerous Drinks, inspired by History's most

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Speaker 1: Nefarious Criminals, also by her co host Maria, and we

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Speaker 1: went to a little book signing that they did and

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Speaker 1: it was really really fun. A passage was read and

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Speaker 1: cocktail was made and then just good times we had.

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Speaker 1: But I was flipping through this because I thought, you know,

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Speaker 1: we've had Holly on before as a guest around Halloween

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Speaker 1: about cocktails, and we made a cocktail that time, and

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Speaker 1: from Criminalia to come on and talk about the book.

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Speaker 1: So I was flipping through and I was trying to

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Speaker 1: decide what cocktail I would make. There are a lot

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Speaker 1: of cocktails in this book. Yeah, it is so many cocktails,

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Speaker 1: so many amazing stories. The artwork is great. So I

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Speaker 1: just highly recommend they don't know we're doing this. By

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Speaker 1: the way, this is this is also not this is

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Speaker 1: just a genuine ye like review, and there is so

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Speaker 1: many things I do want to try that are in here.

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Speaker 1: But I didn't have to get things together because I

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Speaker 2: Well no, but it also like you have to prep

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Speaker 3: Holly was on, which was a long time ago, a

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Speaker 3: But like getting these ingredients kids is it is an endeavor.

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Speaker 3: To see her, she goes all out in her cocktailing

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Speaker 3: So it is not that not all of them, not

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Speaker 1: great for Halloween, which, by the way, happy Halloween. If

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Speaker 1: Of course what else, But yeah, I did want to

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Speaker 2: But this is a second one. I was like, it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so when I was like, wait, this is a

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Speaker 1: She changed just sweater. Yes. So I purchased these myself,

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