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Speaker 1: The volume. This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What

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Speaker 1: is up straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight

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Speaker 1: Fire for Friday, February ninth. It is the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: podcast you've been waiting for all week. I know we've

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Speaker 1: talked super Bowl all week. We did the podcast Extravaganza

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Speaker 1: with Rufus Peabody on Wednesday. You gotta go back and

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Speaker 1: listen to that if you missed it. We'll do best

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Speaker 1: bets at the end of the podcast. I'll chop up

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Speaker 1: some super Bowl stories Rob g and I will discuss

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Speaker 1: the NBA trade deadline where some stuff actually happened it matters.

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Speaker 1: But first I'll just quickly talk to you about the

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Speaker 1: week that was in. It was a wild Wednesday and

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Speaker 1: then a wild Thursday. And Cam Newton's involved. So I

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Speaker 1: found out that, you know, Cowherd was going to have

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday and he's like, well, we got to go

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Speaker 1: was like, okay, I'm in, And of course, you know

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Speaker 1: a lot of media members in Vegas. I was like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: these guys got the gym, they got a game, a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. Get to the party, have fun, hang out,

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Speaker 1: talk to people, blah blah blah blah. And then while

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Speaker 1: I'm there, I get a note from Cam Newton's people. Hey, Jason,

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Speaker 1: Cam would love to talk to you about, you know, debate, quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: talk new media, old media, all that fun stuff. I

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Speaker 1: was like, I'm in. When they were like, oh, come

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Speaker 1: have time. Okay, well we'll record on Thursday. I was like,

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Speaker 1: all right, after the show Thursday, I'll record with you guys. Great,

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Speaker 1: I'm preparing all this stuff my favorite and I'll read

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Speaker 1: directly from the email and I'm not ripping the guys.

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Speaker 1: But they're like, uh so, yeah, we would talk about

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Speaker 1: more specific, like like what, well, nothing, we don't have

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Speaker 1: anything specifically prepared. Cam would likely want to debate with

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Speaker 1: the traditional media slash new athlete driven media landscape. And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Tad is so in my wheelhouse? Because you know,

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Speaker 1: Cam doesn't have my background. But I came up through

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Speaker 1: an untraditional media route. I was on the traditional media route.

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Speaker 1: I realized how laman dumb it was, and I got

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Speaker 1: And you know, Cam, I'm assuming, is talking about how

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Speaker 1: athletes are driving more stories, and I'm like, that's awesome, great, wonderful,

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Speaker 1: love to hear it. Bring it on anybody, whether it's journalist,

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Speaker 1: former athlete, former non athlete, if they're interesting and have

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Speaker 1: takes fire away more, more content for everybody. Nobody loses,

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Speaker 1: more content for blogs, more content for traditional media, more

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Speaker 1: content for social media. Like nobody loses radio TV. Nope,

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Speaker 1: everybody wins with more content. Like I'll gladly have that discussion.

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Speaker 1: The quarterback debates interesting, like do you want to specifically

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Speaker 1: We'll see. So anyways, we're gonna do it right after

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Speaker 1: the show Thursday. So of course I'm driving home and

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Speaker 1: I see a being on my email. Hey Jay, we

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Speaker 1: need to push it back to one forty five. The

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Speaker 1: that we didn't anticipate. Okay, sure, no problem, great, more

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Speaker 1: time to prep for me, so of course, as I'm

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Speaker 1: prepping a one thirty. Hey, Jason, Unfortunately we were slammed

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Speaker 1: tomorrow and there's just too much action. Can we push

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Speaker 1: it to after Super Bowl. I'm a little disappointed. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna lie Cam Newton arguably the goat quarterback in

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers history. Apologies to Jake Dellome wants me to

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Speaker 1: It was a good to be an ambush. Probably was

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Speaker 1: how could you say that? Blah blah blah didn't play that?

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Speaker 1: I love sparring with these guys. Healthy debate is healthy

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Speaker 1: to back up Carmelo Anthony, amazing scorer, the seventy five

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Speaker 1: All right, Rob, we got to talk about Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 1: You guys know how Super Bowl Week works. As we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's fascinating. And we're just folks to

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Speaker 2: Giannie Brunson, Dame.

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Speaker 1: don't have the depth. And again in the playoffs, what what?

426
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Speaker 1: What's what pat Riley say? You play seven but trust six,

427
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: or you play eight but trust seven. Whatever the saying is,

428
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 1: they don't really have eight guys. Middleton's injury history is

429
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: really ugly. Giannis can only carry so much of the burd.

430
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Speaker 1: I think the Bucks are a little vulnerable. This will

431
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 1: not be a good look for Dame if they lose

432
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: early in the playoffs. The thing is, I don't know

433
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Speaker 1: who's beating him because the bottom of the East, well

434
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Speaker 1: not the bottom, but like let's say six, seven, eight, nine,

435
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: ten for the East. I don't think anybody any of

436
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: those teams really scare you. And that includes Philadelphia, which

437
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: continues to plummet after losing Embiid Like the Pacers are interesting.

438
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: I guess you could say Miami, but that team just

439
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like they have it this year after the

440
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: big run last year. Orlando doesn't scare anybody. The Bulls

441
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: come on, Hawks, who I like, are just embarrassment. So like,

442
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: as long as the Bucks don't lose in the first round,

443
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Speaker 1: it feels to me like Celtics, Knicks, Bucks, Calves are

444
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Speaker 1: the top four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that, and you know, don't dismiss

446
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 2: the Pacers because the Pacers own the Bucks for whatever

447
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: in the regular season, like they just are a matchup

448
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: problem for them. I can't figure out exactly why, but

449
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: they are. Yeah, whoever is able to get because those

450
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: four are clearly the four best teams, and as of

451
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 2: this recording, they're all separated by well two through four

452
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: separated by one game, so you know, it's very very

453
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: fluid on a day to day basis. By the time

454
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Speaker 2: you listen to this podcast may have changed again. So

455
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Speaker 2: whichever of those three teams New York, Milwaukee and Cleveland

456
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Speaker 2: can avoid the four seed and thus avoid having to

457
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Speaker 2: play Boston in the second round, you know has to

458
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Speaker 2: be doing backflips because I again, and you know, I'm

459
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Speaker 2: picking the Knicks here, but if Milwaukee ends up with

460
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Speaker 2: the four seed, and even though I believe Boston is

461
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 2: the best team period in the Eastern probably the best

462
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Speaker 2: team in the league quite frankly, Yeah, would you be

463
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Speaker 2: super shocked though, if Milwaukee against Boston in the playoffs

464
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Speaker 2: and Milwaukee is able to prevail.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as of right now, no, I don't see Milwaukee prevailing,

466
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Speaker 1: but you know, injuries happen, like you know, we'll see

467
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: how the teams are health wise when they battle. But yeah, no,

468
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Speaker 1: I think the Celtics are the better team one through seven.

469
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Speaker 1: And I'm higher on Tatum than most future Lakers.

470
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Future. It's weird we're not talking at all about the

472
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Speaker 1: Sixers because of the Embiid injury. Now, they did say

473
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Speaker 1: all these Sixers fans, I guess heard the pod. They

474
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Speaker 1: had know my history with him Beid and I don't

475
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: have like beef with the guy, but it's like he's

476
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Speaker 1: going to be reevaluated in four weeks. Jay settled down.

477
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Speaker 1: I'm like, can you get a clue, Like, look at

478
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Speaker 1: Eimbiad's history. Man, They're not rushing this guy back. He's

479
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: still in the prime of his career, like I do.

480
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Speaker 1: I do not expect him back. I mean, we'll see

481
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Speaker 1: what they say. It's still unclear if they did what

482
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Speaker 1: they did on the cleanup, right, Rob, Have you seen

483
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent details? All I saw was surgery complete.

484
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Speaker 1: They're gonna reevaluate. They didn't detail what happened, did they.

485
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Speaker 2: They didn't even use the word surgery, Like they are

486
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Speaker 2: going out of their way to avoid using the word surgery.

487
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: And all of their press releases and anything that they say,

488
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: they say he had a procedure done and it was

489
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Speaker 2: regarding his knee. They won't even say that it was

490
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: a torn meniscus. They say he had a procedure to

491
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Speaker 2: his meniscus and he will be reevaluated. Yeah, they are

492
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: being so intentionally vague. And I just don't understand why.

493
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Speaker 1: Hmm, what's the edge of being vague?

494
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Speaker 2: Exactly? I don't understand. I don't get it.

495
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Speaker 1: He's either out for the season or maybe he comes back,

496
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: and it's it's like, my this is I know, you

497
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: guys are laugh. My men's league team, you know, the

498
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: MVP of the league is on our team. And then

499
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Speaker 1: he busts up his elbow trying to take a charge,

500
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: you know, which is hilarious. He's just that good of

501
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: a dude, six seven, like wing in college. Anyways, So

502
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: he's like, I had this injury before it was twelve

503
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: weeks and we're like, oh damn, that sucks are out

504
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Speaker 1: for the season. So we found like a more than

505
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Speaker 1: suitable replacement and who's a good play with us before.

506
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Speaker 1: But now it's like four weeks in and he's like,

507
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: you know, I think maybe I should get a second

508
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: opinion because there's no swelling, the range of motion's fine.

509
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: And now I'm like, oh, wait a minute, could you

510
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: be back for the playoffs, you know, the second round

511
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: of the semifinals, which I think will be in. Is

512
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: there a chance er back that will be about the

513
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Speaker 1: twelve week mark, you know, So we got him a

514
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Speaker 1: second opinion, We got him a guy. He's talking to

515
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: him and like, I don't want to force anybody back,

516
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: but like he would love to play Joel Embiid, you know,

517
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: would love to play. Now he's not going to be

518
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,239
Speaker 1: eligible for any awards, but he's got the hardware, right

519
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 1: he fought for the MVP last year and got it.

520
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: All he needs is the playoff success. And I don't know.

521
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: Does Buddy Healed Maxi, Tobias Harris? Does that excite you?

522
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: My read on Buddy Heel Rob is that Daryl Morey says,

523
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: damn well, if we aren't gonna have Himbiid, we just

524
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: got to go down swinging, and our best way to

525
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: go down swinging is threes with Maxy Healed, Tobias Harris.

526
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: They sacrifice defense with Pas Beverley for a guy who

527
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: can jack threes. Now, I'm sure there's some salary cap

528
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: machinations here at play. I haven't fully read held. I

529
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: believe he's in the final year of a contract, but

530
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: essentially he's a hired gun who's just gonna come in

531
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: there and fire seven, eight, nine threes a game.

532
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was very underwhelmed by what the Sixers did

533
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 2: because they had two options here. They could have won,

534
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: used these expiring contracts to make a big trade to

535
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: get the third guy like you've been talking about Zach Lavan.

536
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: I know he's hurt, but to get the third guy

537
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 2: on that team, or they get another expiring contract kind

538
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: of kicked Candy down the road and hope they can

539
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: sign someone in free agency this offseason because of tons

540
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: of cap space. But as a Laker fan, I can

541
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Speaker 2: tell you this, anyone listening to this podcast, if you're

542
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: in a Philadelphia a fan of the Sixers, having two stars,

543
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: which what they'll have, they'll have MBT and MAXI and

544
00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: tons of cap space, doesn't guarantee you shit, because what

545
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: we've seen in today's NBA is having two guys or

546
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: three guys and minimum level players is not enough anymore.

547
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: Like you can't there's too much talent in this league

548
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: for you to just rely on those two, especially when

549
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: a guy like Embiid who was a history of injuries.

550
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: Like Phoenix, we were all high on coming into this

551
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,239
Speaker 2: season because of the Beal Booker KD trio, and then

552
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: you see them play together and you're like, yeah, if

553
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: one of those guys is out, or if two of

554
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: those guys are sitting like their role players are really

555
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: really struggling out there, and you see them match up

556
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: against a team like the Clippers, who are legitimately like

557
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: seven eight nine guys deep. PJ. Tucker can't even get

558
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: off the bench these days. PJ. Tucker would be like

559
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: a starter in Phoenix right now, Like he'd be their starting.

560
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: Power forward, wasn't he asking out essentially want me, Yeah

561
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: he was.

562
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: He's been requesting a trade and never got it. But

563
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: he was working trade for months. And if you're Philadelphia,

564
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: if you're holding this cap space for what like you

565
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: think you're gonna get Lebron James because all the other

566
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: guys that you would probably want to sign are gonna stay,

567
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: like Kawhi already re upped, Paul George is likely to

568
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 2: re up. You don't want to bring James Harden back.

569
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: It's like, who is it that you're targeting with all

570
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: this cap space. I didn't like what they did. I

571
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: think that when you have a guy like mb It,

572
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: even though he's hurt right now, you got to try

573
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: to have your team ready to go when he comes back,

574
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Speaker 2: assuming he comes back.

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Speaker 1: We can wrap up with Okay, see number one in

576
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Speaker 1: the West in point differential, A whopping twenty and six

577
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Speaker 1: at home. I think they had to come back down

578
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: twenty three this week. Really impressive stuff. Yet Sam Presty,

579
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Speaker 1: who by the way, deserves some props for building this

580
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: back up pretty quickly traded Harden back way back when,

581
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: which was foolish. Kevin Durant says, I'm out they bring

582
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: in Paul George like, I gotta listen. I know I'm

583
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: not the biggest fan of Presty, but I am impressed

584
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: with how he continually keeps this team fighting. And I

585
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: think you said they have like thirty second round draft

586
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: picks here going forward, they have managed to be first

587
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: in the West, leading the West in scoring, leading the

588
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: West in point differential, number one in offense in the West.

589
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: They are a bit of a juggernaut. However, you look

590
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: Rob at the depth chart because oh, they're going to

591
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Well, let's see here, Okay, Chet Holmgren has

592
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: zero playoff experience, Jalen Williams, Lou Dort, Josh Getd. I

593
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: think Dort in the bubble might have played in the

594
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: playoff series, Josh Getteasy, they have a very young team. Sga,

595
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: of course, has played at high levels with the Olympics

596
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: and Kentucky. I'll just point this out, Rob, if you

597
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: look at their roster, the rotational guys like Dort's twenty

598
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: four Guineas twenty one, Chase twenty five, Home Groun twenty one,

599
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: you know all their dudes are so young. Caseon Wallace,

600
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: who looks really good twenty years old. The Jaylen Williams

601
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: twenty two. They don't really have any vets. I like

602
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: the move of Gordon Hayward. I don't know if it's

603
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: more for a locker room thing or is it like

604
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: an actual on the court because he hasn't played in

605
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: like over a month. I just I wonder how weird

606
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: this is thirty five and sixty in the top the

607
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: West and you're bringing a new guy into the locker room.

608
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: Like I'm sure there's already a hierarchy in the locker

609
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: room of like it's SGA's team and Chet's gotten next,

610
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: and Josh Kiddy's pretty good and Loud Dowart's like an

611
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: enforcer and like the senior member of the team, and

612
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: the Williams guys are good. I just I don't know

613
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: how that works in the locker room. I don't know that,

614
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: you know, Gordon Hayward's a pretty low, low profile guy.

615
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: He's bounced around the league. I just that's got to

616
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: be a little awkward now kind of.

617
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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess the thing about Gordon Hayward is

618
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: he seems to be one of the you know, easier

619
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: guys to get along with in the NBA, you know,

620
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 2: very low main's even going back to you know, Utah

621
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: and Boston, like Anon only had positive things to say

622
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: about him, So that's good. I think the biggest thing

623
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: though is Sam Presty has all of these draft picks.

624
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 2: He's hoarding them for something, you know. But the problem

625
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: though is is their team is very good right now,

626
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: so you don't want to upset the apple cart too

627
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: much by making a huge trade for you know, I

628
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: don't know, but he got traded Pascal Siakam like one

629
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: of those type of deals if you don't know for

630
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: sure how it's going to impact the rest of your

631
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: your your young guys coming up forward. And with Gordon Hayward,

632
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: you get him on an expiring contract, so he gives

633
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: you some help now because as they're a young team,

634
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: they need some kind of veteran presence when they're in

635
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: the playoffs, and none of these guys I've ever been there,

636
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: So he helps you in that regard, But he also

637
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: doesn't jeopardize your future plans if and when they decide

638
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: to finally cash in those chips and get another guy,

639
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: because I'm assuming they're going to I as good as

640
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: their big three is with Shay and chet and and Williams.

641
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: I think that they have enough where they can get

642
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: another high end if it's not like a high end

643
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 2: role player or another star player to fit along those guys.

644
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot about Poku. Everybody loves him and Jang

645
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: who played for My Breakers. The other thing, Rob, like, Okay,

646
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: Gordon Hayward veteran. I know he's been out for a while,

647
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: he's thirty three years old. He I love that guy

648
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: in Utah, man, he was so good and then he

649
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: goes to Boston gets hurt in his first game with

650
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: the Celtics and he's never really been the same. But

651
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: like you see a guy coming into the locker room, Rob,

652
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: it's not that different from like, you know, I'm at

653
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: FS one. If they all of a sudden hired some

654
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: new guy, well, damn, is this guy gonna eat into

655
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 1: my minutes? You know? Is this gonna impact my playing time?

656
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: And then, you know, I know you shouldn't think like that,

657
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: but that's human nature. You know. They hire a new

658
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: body to work on odd couple and Rob, you know,

659
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: you're looking over your shoulder. They're like, oh, what's going

660
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: on here? And I just I don't know the dynamics

661
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: of that locker room. But I know it's young and

662
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: that that means a little probably more fragile, so some risk.

663
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: But on the court, I think Heyward can certainly help them. Overall, though,

664
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: as I got to ask you, as a Laker fan, Rob,

665
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: overall consensus on the Lakers kind of doing nothing.

666
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I really don't, because if you're

667
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: not doing anything of this this, you're you're punting. You're

668
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: waiting for the next big star. Like I said, the

669
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell is the big name that everyone's been linking to.

670
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: Bill Ryder reported on Wednesday that the Lakers believe they

671
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: have a good chance of getting him in a trade

672
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: if and when he asked out of Cleveland, because you

673
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 2: know he's not going to extend there. The problem, though,

674
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 2: is Austin Reeves, Hatchi Mura three first and two pickswaps

675
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: or whatever it is for Donovan Mitchell. Like, I think

676
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 2: that's a fair trade because he's a very good player.

677
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: But the problem is the Knicks can top that, the

678
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: Thunder can top that. There's a there's plenty of other

679
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 2: teams that have more than what the Lakers can offer.

680
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: If they really wanted to get Donovan Mitchell, so unless

681
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 2: he says, like ad I only want to play for

682
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 2: the Lakers, Like, what's to stop another team from just

683
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: coming over the top and getting him? So then you

684
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 2: wasted another Lebron James season, which I don't I don't

685
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: like that term anyways.

686
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: But you wasted Wait a minute, why is it wasted?

687
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 2: I don't. Again, I don't like saying wasting because I

688
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 2: think the Lakers have done more than enough to accommodate

689
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: him during his five plus years here. What I'm saying is,

690
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: you don't know how much longer he's going to be

691
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: at the top of his game or at the top

692
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: of his game, That's what I mean.

693
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: Let me counter with this, though, Rob. If we are

694
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: in agreement that Denver and Boston are the top two

695
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: teams and you want to toss the Clippers in there,

696
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: is that fair? Yes, okay, those three are the teams

697
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: to be if everybody else is healthy. Don't you think

698
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: the Lakers are in that tier right below them? In that? Like?

699
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: How I mean? I know Minnesota maybe statistically and okay,

700
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: setically and records in the dance they're ahead of the Lakers.

701
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: But again, like, I don't know, this idea that you're

702
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: not wasting but not maximizing and seizing of Lebron will find.

703
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: Then the counter to that is, Okay, who's gonna put us?

704
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: What player could we've gotten? It's gonna put us in

705
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: that Denver Boston Clippers category. And I think I think

706
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: we agree the answer is nobody like Dejon Ta Murray.

707
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: He ain't gonna do it, is he?

708
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 2: Yeah?

709
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: I don't believe that.

710
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 2: No, he's not. But you know, there were other teams

711
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: that made moves around the edges that the Lakers could have,

712
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: like the Phoenix Suns. They get roy O'Neil for like

713
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: three second round picks and contract like the Lakers could

714
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 2: really use roy O'Neil, like a guy like that, a

715
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 2: wing who can defend, and they chose to sit out.

716
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 2: I know they're gonna be active on the buyout market.

717
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: You know, they've already been linked to Spencer Dinwiddie. But historically,

718
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: guys on the buyout market don't necessarily, you know, help,

719
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 2: So I just I just didn't like that. The Again,

720
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 2: you don't. When the ending falls off for NBA players,

721
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: it usually happens quickly. And I'm not saying Lebron's gonna

722
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: fall off a cliff next season. But I'm not saying

723
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: he's not gonna fall off a cliff, you know what

724
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 2: I mean? So every every year that he is playing

725
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: at this level, you gotta take advantage of it.

726
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: Well you can, Yeah, I would say this smart move

727
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: for the Lakers would be managed Lebron and a D.

728
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: The rest of the way get us is the six

729
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: within reach. They are oh my gosh, so only three

730
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: and a half back of the six. If they can

731
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: get the six, amazing. If they could get the seven,

732
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: you know you're in the play in less amazing. But

733
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 1: it seems like the Kings are really cratering. Nobody trusts

734
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: the Pelicans. I think as long as they're in the playoffs,

735
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: I think they're they're gonna be okay. And then, given

736
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: Lebron had played sixty eight games in a D sixty seven,

737
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: both are healthy and rested as much as possible. I

738
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: trust them in a one game spot, a seven game

739
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: series against basically anybody. I just don't think the Yo

740
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: kicch matchup is great. And then I don't think they're

741
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: a great matchup for the paper Clips either. But against

742
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: the Suns, I'm telling you, AD is a big problem

743
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: for Phoenix. Ad will be a problem for the Clippers.

744
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I don't think the Lakers drift. We'll see

745
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: all right. Time to get to Super Bowl best bets.

746
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: The only thing better than sitting on your couch watching

747
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: the game is making money while you do it. Here's

748
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: your best bet. All right, on to best bets here

749
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: for the super Bowl. And this is weird because I

750
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: don't have as much on this Super Bowl as I

751
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: had last year. I felt really good about the Eagles.

752
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: I think, if memory serves, I had an Aj Brown

753
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: ticket and he had that awesome touchdowns, like oh aj

754
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: Brown could steal the MVP. And I think I did

755
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: okay on last year's Super Bowl. Nothing earth shattering. But

756
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: unlike Rufus Peabody earlier, this week, I will not have

757
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: two million dollars in play. I'll go through some of

758
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: the picks. You guys aren't gonna like some of these, U,

759
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. Agree, And I have

760
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: forty nine ers money line first half minus one twenty eight.

761
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: I like the Niners to win. I know I'm the

762
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: only guy. Everybody else has Kansas City Chiefs. Somebody sent

763
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 1: me you guys. I don't know if you remember this dude.

764
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: He's a guest. He has a what's it called a substack.

765
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: His name is Ethan Strauss. He wrote about are the

766
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: Chiefs really underdogs? And he referenced me saying, I'm the

767
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: only guy with the Niners, and obviously there's a couple others,

768
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: But I guess ESPN there's like sixty four people making picks,

769
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: and I think like forty nine or fifty are taking

770
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: Kansas City, okay, And I know, I know you can't

771
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: bet against Mahomes, and who wants to go into the

772
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: offseason going against Mahomes. Everybody went against him against the Ravens,

773
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: which is dumb. I was included. I just think we're

774
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 1: overreacting to a small sample size of three weeks where

775
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: the Chiefs got hot. And now you have a break

776
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: and the bye week, and things will slow down, and

777
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 1: I think normalcy sets in. The forty nine ers will

778
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: find the level that they had before the playoffs. Remember

779
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: when they had the bye week, and my gut tells

780
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: me the Niners win something along the lines of twenty

781
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: four to twenty three, twenty six to twenty three in

782
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: that vicinity. Now this is where it gets interesting. I

783
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: think my best play is betting a teaser, and I

784
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: know teasing totals is dumb and Jason, what are you doing?

785
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: But the reason I'll tease the Chiefs up from two

786
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: and a half to a six point teaser to eight

787
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: and a half. And I look back, I think in

788
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: the last three or four years, the Chiefs have lost

789
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,959
Speaker 1: three games by more than eight points. They really don't

790
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: win healthy, they don't really get smoked. This team's just

791
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: too good. Now. You could say, listen to two years ago,

792
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: they were a different team than they are now. That's

793
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: one hundred percent true. The offense isn't what it was,

794
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: but at the same time, the defense is much better.

795
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: This is the best defense I've had. So I tease

796
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: the Chiefs up, and then I tease the total under

797
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: fifty three, giving myself some wiggle room. So, for instance,

798
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: we've seen a couple of Super Bowls like last year

799
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: Eagles Chiefs we saw forty nine Ers and Chiefs a

800
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: few years ago twenty one points in the fourth quarter.

801
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: We've seen some late explosions in the fourth quarter as

802
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 1: everybody's bottled up and tight early and then eruptions late

803
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: that gives you a little room teasing it up to

804
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: fifty three and a half. So, for instance, you.

805
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 2: Know you're good.

806
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: I think if somebody gets to thirty, you're in deep trouble.

807
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: But really, who nobody gets to thirty on the Chiefs.

808
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: Nobody listen. We know what's gonna happen here, right. The

809
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 1: forty nine ers know that the softness of the Chiefs

810
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: defense is the run game. You're not gonna win. If

811
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: brock Perty's throwing forty passes against mcduffian's need, that's just

812
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. It's not a recipe for success. But

813
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: here's the problem. The Chiefs just face three of the

814
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: top ten rushing offenses in the playoffs. Miami Buffalo really

815
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: strong now Josh Allen aided, and then the Ravens number

816
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 1: one rushing attack in the league. And the Chiefs beat

817
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: all of them. And I don't want to say handle

818
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: lye because that Buffalo game was still touching go in

819
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 1: the fourth. But it's like, oh wow, so they're willing

820
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: to concede the run. Remember I had that stat. I

821
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: don't remember who posted it, but I guess historically it's

822
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: been around fifty to fifty if you pass four more

823
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: yards than you run than your opponent, you win the game.

824
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: This season, I forget who had the number. I've got

825
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: to dig it up, but it was the team that

826
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: passes for more yards in their opponent wins sixty seven

827
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: percent of the games. It's become a passing league. And

828
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have seen that and said, you know what,

829
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: come on down, Rahee Moster, come on down, James Cook.

830
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: You guys can run all over us. You know what,

831
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: it's hard to do when you're not throwing down the

832
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: field and have an explosive plays. Get separation right, so

833
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: you can't pull away from Kansas City. And sure, we'll

834
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: concede a bunch of McCaffrey four five, six year plas.

835
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead, We'll give them to you all

836
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: the way down the field. And then you just got

837
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: a hope when it's a passing situation. And you know,

838
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: Shanahan doesn't want to be in those. Baltimore was in

839
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: all of them early on, and it was like, oh,

840
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: Lamar's got a third and nine, third and thirteen, like

841
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: ooh gross, And I mean, I I mean, we all know,

842
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: like the forty nine ers. For the majority of the season,

843
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 1: were the best team in the league, and the Ravens

844
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: then overtook them on Christmas. What concerns me with the

845
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: Niners and I have it here somewhere. So since Christmas, okay,

846
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers are one and three against the spread.

847
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: That loss to the Ravens did a lot of damage

848
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: to them mentally. It killed them. I mean, they just

849
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: have not been the same team since that loss. And

850
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: let's be real that some luck involved in the comebacks

851
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: against the Packers and the Allions. This is not the

852
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: same Niners team that was smashing Dallas and destroying the Eagles.

853
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: And those are spots that we had circled and we

854
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: gave them out on the podcast. Those were really good games.

855
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: We knew the Niners were the nineer. This isn't the

856
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: same team. They have not delivered in the playoffs.

857
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: Now.

858
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: Conversely, on Christmas Day, if you guys remember, yes, I

859
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: had the Chiefs in the contest. I had the Chiefs

860
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: every which way betting contest. It hurt and they got

861
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: smashed by the freaking Raiders. That was the game where

862
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: the Raiders didn't throw a pass I think in the

863
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: second half. Since that game, Chiefs five and zero against

864
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: the spread. So everybody sold their chief stock off that loss.

865
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you lost to the Raiders that they

866
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: know Connell at home, Oh my gosh, get out of

867
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: town Chiefs the value in the market, Chiefs covering machines.

868
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: Since now they've really adapted. They've become a run first team.

869
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: So when you look at props, what where do you

870
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: see some an edge where you can take advantage of

871
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs becoming Patrick Mahomes the game manager,

872
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: Isaiah Pacheco running the football and non explosive place you

873
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: could look at, Oh, I don't know, unders on MVS.

874
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: I think there is an opportunity, yes, really for Isaiah

875
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: Pacheco to get like north of eighteen carries Like I

876
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: don't think they're totally against just running him into the

877
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: middle line of scrimmage. That's what they've been doing and

878
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: it's been working. Now here's the problem with Armstead and

879
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: Hargrave in the middle. This is a formidable run defense.

880
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: So what have the Lions and Packers done? The zone

881
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: runs which are outside and they've given the Niners fits.

882
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: But if you look at Kansas City, as we talk

883
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 1: about with Sandal, they don't totally do that. All of

884
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: this to me lines up to like brock Purty under

885
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: thirty one and a half pass attempts. Now it's minus

886
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: one fifty one, so you got to pay some juice.

887
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: But again, do you see a scenario or brock Purty

888
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: stow on the ball thirty five times with the Shanahan offfens.

889
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 1: I don't totally see it now. At the same time,

890
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm not totally hedging my bet, but I do have

891
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: a brock Purty MVP plus two eleven. I thought it

892
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: would go higher, but for some reason it hasn't. If

893
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: he is able to outduel Mahomes, come on, are they

894
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: really gonna not give him the MVP. But at the

895
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: same time, I did see that. Now fan voting is

896
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: twenty percent of the vote, and if you like the Chiefs,

897
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: I think you have to bet Kelsey to win the MVP.

898
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: And again, all these people, these Chiefs fans, are angry

899
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: at me because I said on the Herd like I

900
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: didn't think Travis Kelcey had a great season. Yes he did.

901
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: His numbers were good, but look what they were the

902
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: year before his touchdowns were I think it was like

903
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: sixteen last year eight this year, fewer yards, fewer receptions

904
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 1: by a significant amount more most drops of his career. Again,

905
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: Mahomes did not have a great season, the worst of

906
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: his career. Kelsey not the worst season of his career,

907
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: but a massive drop off from last year. So what happened? Well,

908
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: Kelsey takes week Week eighteen off rejuvenated and eats totally

909
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: eats against the Ravens now will this week off rejuvenate

910
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: him for the Super Bowl after three straight weeks old

911
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: guy surgeries? Or or will all this tailor swift the

912
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: questions every day? The Japan the flight. You know, are

913
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: they gonna propose on the field. I have no idea.

914
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: I'm just saying there is a lot of narrativey stuff

915
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: around Kelsey and I I don't I'm not. I'm not

916
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: on the Kelsey's gonna have a big game train. I

917
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: did take a couple of flyers on anytime touchdown we

918
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: talked about Kyle hus Check plus six seventy five. I

919
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: did take a flyer on George carlaftis MVP. He remember

920
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: he's not going up against Trent Williams. He will be

921
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: going up against is it mckivitts. I forget that. I mean,

922
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: I gotta look the guy's name up. But their right

923
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: tackle is I mean, the rest of their line compared

924
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: to Trent Williams, is just.

925
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 2: Not very good.

926
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: And Carl Laftis has shown well in these playoffs two

927
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: and a half sacks, ten and a half on the season,

928
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: like he's good. And if there's a if there's a

929
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: world where Spagnolo is dialing up crazy stuff and confusing

930
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: the hell out of young Brock Purdy, who's nervous in

931
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: his first Super Bowl spot, you start to wonder, well,

932
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 1: if this is low scoring thirteen ten, seventeen, fourteen, is

933
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: there a defensive player And I just look at mckivitz.

934
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: That's his name, their right tackle. He is their set

935
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: and lowest graded offensive lineman. He's not having a good season.

936
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: Maybe they help ship Carlaftis with Kittle, But I do

937
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: wonder if Carl Laftis could get loose and give party problems. Now,

938
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: the other thing is perty scrambling, as we saw, is

939
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: like a real thing. So I'm I'm a believer in Purtty.

940
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 2: Guys.

941
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's a max player. I'm not saying

942
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: give him fifty million, none of that stuff. I'm a

943
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: believer in Party the football player that he can get

944
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: this dub because he's I know, the turnover worthy plays

945
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: are there, and Jay Patrick Mahomes has no turnover worthy

946
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: plays in all three playoff games combined per Pro Football Focus.

947
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: I get it. I see that Mahomes has been incredible.

948
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 2: I just.

949
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: I wonder if Perdy is like gonna play error free

950
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 1: football as opposed to, Oh my gosh, I'm playing from behind.

951
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: I've got to make plays, and that's when he's throwing

952
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: dumb stuff against the Packers and Lions in the first half,

953
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: as long as the Chiefs don't jump out to an

954
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: early lead. And that's why I asked sim yesterday, do

955
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,720
Speaker 1: you see the defense of the Niners making some tweaks.

956
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: All they've got to do is stop that scripted drive.

957
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: You cannot let the Chiefs go seven to nothing, ten

958
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: to nothing, ten to three, whatever. You cannot let them

959
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 1: jump out to that lead because then it becomes difficult

960
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: with Spagnolo's defense the second half, they're just choking teams out.

961
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: It's really incredible. I'll probably add a couple more prop bets.

962
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: Let's see what else. What else have I hit? Elijah

963
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: Mitchell over one and a half carries. If you think

964
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: Niners are gonna win and McCaffrey has a big game

965
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: and you know they're salting away the game in the

966
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: fourth quarter and nursing a lead, Mitchell's gonna get a

967
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: couple carries. I have Butker over one and a half

968
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: field goals, longest field goal over forty seven and a half.

969
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: I've got just so much stuff out there. I'll dig

970
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: deeper and hopefully get you guys more stuff over the weekend.

971
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: Remember what Rufus said, The bulk of the bets will

972
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: be coming in on the weekend. Wait as long as

973
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: you can. If you want to take unders on my Caffrey, Kelsey,

974
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: the big names I Yuke. Just wait until the weekend

975
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: and I'll be doing that and hopefully posting them on

976
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: IG stories. Everybody enjoy the Super Bowl back Monday. Can't wait.

977
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: Talk to you then,