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Speaker 2: What kind of a show you guys putting on here today?

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Speaker 1: You're not interested in art?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: No, Look, we're going to do this thing. We're going

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Speaker 1: to have a conversation.

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Speaker 2: A film spotter is Adam and Josh.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with our usual format next week. A

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Speaker 2: full review the new movie, the drama Josh, Are you

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Speaker 2: ready for the drama with Zendeia and Robert Pattinson? A

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Speaker 2: new one from a twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Very ready ticket star booked and the good news Adam,

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Speaker 1: don't have to take two buses to this one? Okay,

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Speaker 2: I am as well, and I'm eager for this. We

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Speaker 2: will officially induct two new movies into the film Spotting pantheon.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Film Spotting Family members got their ballot three

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Speaker 2: or four days ago, and at this point, as we're recording,

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Speaker 2: they have three or four more days to submit that ballot.

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Speaker 2: Nine pretty great films, and I submit in my ballot.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure you did as well. It was hard

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Speaker 1: Those titles were moving up and down, back and forth.

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Speaker 2: If you are a family member and you're thinking, I

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Speaker 2: don't really know what Adam's talking about. I don't remember

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Speaker 2: seeing a ballot. For whatever reason, it didn't come to

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Speaker 2: your email, email the show feedback at Filmspotting dot net.

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Speaker 2: and we get those two new movies inducted. The good

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Speaker 2: thing is you really can't go wrong. Any of those

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Speaker 2: This week Forty's Madness Round two results and Sweet sixteen matchups.

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Speaker 2: We do have a couple of notes. First, we have

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Speaker 2: Deacons at the Athenaeum in Chicago, Josh.

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Speaker 1: Very exciting, as you know, I'm a regular listener to

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Speaker 2: We did have a couple of notable Round two results.

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Speaker 2: Here we throw out the question once again, should the

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right how we thought it would play out.

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Speaker 2: They all advanced very easily. Casablanca defeated, yep. Another Archer's film,

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Speaker 1: This matchup not hard for me, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: This was the hardest to pick personally for me of

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Speaker 1: But you made the point, Adam, no vegetables here hugely

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Speaker 2: the temporary abstension. I like that approach. We have to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. Our fourth matchup is the number four seed,

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Speaker 2: I knew Double Indemnity was sunk because you just watched

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Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, recency bias verse, This is vividness. What's more

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Speaker 2: and I feel like I'm sleeping on The Third Man

428
00:25:13,565 --> 00:25:16,165
Speaker 2: a little bit. So I'm going to pick it. But

429
00:25:16,725 --> 00:25:19,805
Speaker 2: before next round, I think I'm going to revisit The

430
00:25:19,805 --> 00:25:20,325
Speaker 2: Third Man.

431
00:25:21,005 --> 00:25:22,885
Speaker 1: You know, we don't talk about that as much. We

432
00:25:22,965 --> 00:25:25,805
Speaker 1: often talk about, you know, doing homework for madness and

433
00:25:26,165 --> 00:25:28,165
Speaker 1: an excuse to catch up with things we haven't seen.

434
00:25:28,245 --> 00:25:31,685
Speaker 1: But yeah, also a great excuse to revisit these wonderful

435
00:25:31,725 --> 00:25:35,845
Speaker 1: movies that it's been a while. I actually, and you

436
00:25:35,885 --> 00:25:38,005
Speaker 1: know how I fare in our prediction brackets will tell

437
00:25:38,045 --> 00:25:40,365
Speaker 1: you how much stock you should put in this. I

438
00:25:40,405 --> 00:25:42,925
Speaker 1: thought this might be the toughest one to predict of

439
00:25:42,925 --> 00:25:48,085
Speaker 1: this round, just because you think of some lists of

440
00:25:48,205 --> 00:25:51,205
Speaker 1: the top film noirs of all time, and both of

441
00:25:51,245 --> 00:25:53,685
Speaker 1: these might be in the top five for some people,

442
00:25:54,125 --> 00:25:59,525
Speaker 1: possibly Third Man and Maltese Falcon. Does Bogart put Maltese

443
00:26:00,365 --> 00:26:04,365
Speaker 1: over the top. Does third Man's Vienna Sewerchase counteract any

444
00:26:04,365 --> 00:26:08,805
Speaker 1: star power? I think that's very possible that that's, you know,

445
00:26:08,845 --> 00:26:11,845
Speaker 1: a sequence that sticks in your memory more than a

446
00:26:11,885 --> 00:26:16,125
Speaker 1: star performance in some ways. So you're probably right. I

447
00:26:16,725 --> 00:26:19,565
Speaker 1: think I don't know where my prediction bracket landed, or

448
00:26:19,565 --> 00:26:21,565
Speaker 1: if I had to make this choice, but sitting here

449
00:26:21,645 --> 00:26:25,845
Speaker 1: right now, it's tougher for me. But I think you're

450
00:26:25,885 --> 00:26:28,845
Speaker 1: probably right. Third Man will take it. But I'm not

451
00:26:28,885 --> 00:26:29,845
Speaker 1: really sure with this one.

452
00:26:30,525 --> 00:26:38,205
Speaker 2: Okay, the next matchup this is Hawks the Hawks. Oh,

453
00:26:38,205 --> 00:26:40,725
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's our next one. I'm already jumping ahead

454
00:26:40,765 --> 00:26:42,885
Speaker 2: to what I think is the much tougher matchup, the

455
00:26:42,925 --> 00:26:46,205
Speaker 2: more interesting matchup. I think we can probably glide past

456
00:26:46,285 --> 00:26:48,805
Speaker 2: pretty quickly, as I tried to just ignore it. Number

457
00:26:48,845 --> 00:26:52,405
Speaker 2: two Citizen Kane versus number fifteen, the Philadelphia Story. Do

458
00:26:52,405 --> 00:26:54,165
Speaker 2: you have anything to say about that?

459
00:26:54,365 --> 00:26:57,165
Speaker 1: Josh, Yeah, I don't think that's going to go well

460
00:26:57,365 --> 00:26:59,405
Speaker 1: for the Philadelphia Story. Unfortunate.

461
00:26:59,525 --> 00:27:01,685
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it nor should it stand a

462
00:27:01,805 --> 00:27:04,605
Speaker 2: chance against Cain. And I don't know that we need

463
00:27:04,645 --> 00:27:07,445
Speaker 2: to dwell on this part either. But I was actually

464
00:27:07,485 --> 00:27:10,645
Speaker 2: thinking and I don't I truly don't mean this as

465
00:27:10,685 --> 00:27:13,285
Speaker 2: a huge slight against the Philadelphia Story. It's in the

466
00:27:13,325 --> 00:27:18,885
Speaker 2: top sixteen for a reason. But which movies in the

467
00:27:18,885 --> 00:27:24,085
Speaker 2: top sixteen realistically could the Philadelphia Story beat? There's a

468
00:27:24,085 --> 00:27:28,845
Speaker 2: reason why it's number fifteen as well. You know, maybe Notorious.

469
00:27:29,045 --> 00:27:31,125
Speaker 2: But honestly, if you put those two head to head,

470
00:27:31,645 --> 00:27:34,725
Speaker 2: I think Notorious probably wins. I think the selection committee

471
00:27:34,725 --> 00:27:37,925
Speaker 2: probably failed on that one. I don't know.

472
00:27:38,005 --> 00:27:41,565
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's definitive Catherine Hepburn and you know

473
00:27:41,645 --> 00:27:46,165
Speaker 1: that goes scow Boy, Yeah, goes a long way for folks.

474
00:27:46,165 --> 00:27:48,325
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's by no means do we mean

475
00:27:48,365 --> 00:27:51,045
Speaker 1: to slight it at all. But when you're coming up

476
00:27:51,085 --> 00:27:56,165
Speaker 1: against Caine this relatively early in the tournament. Few films

477
00:27:56,485 --> 00:27:57,405
Speaker 1: are going to farewell.

478
00:27:57,965 --> 00:28:01,165
Speaker 2: Yes, So here we are the seven versus the ten.

479
00:28:02,165 --> 00:28:05,165
Speaker 2: In the real March Madness tournament, we get a lot

480
00:28:05,205 --> 00:28:09,125
Speaker 2: of upsets. Here. It's going to be Hawks upsetting himself

481
00:28:09,325 --> 00:28:16,205
Speaker 2: potentially his girl Friday versus the Big Sleep. Screwball comedy

482
00:28:16,965 --> 00:28:20,965
Speaker 2: versus hard boiled detective. Right, this may be the thing

483
00:28:21,205 --> 00:28:23,245
Speaker 2: that ultimately decides it for a lot of people. And

484
00:28:23,325 --> 00:28:26,845
Speaker 2: I think I'm showing my hand Josh, Carrie, Grant and

485
00:28:26,965 --> 00:28:32,805
Speaker 2: rosalind Russell versus Bogie and McCall. And this isn't the

486
00:28:32,885 --> 00:28:36,285
Speaker 2: right grounds to make your choice, probably, But with the

487
00:28:36,325 --> 00:28:40,685
Speaker 2: Maltese falcon out, I guess you have the third man,

488
00:28:40,725 --> 00:28:42,485
Speaker 2: as you said. But do you need a great, a

489
00:28:42,725 --> 00:28:48,245
Speaker 2: true hard boiled detective noir to advance or does it

490
00:28:48,285 --> 00:28:50,645
Speaker 2: feel like you do it is the Big Sleep the one.

491
00:28:51,005 --> 00:28:54,885
Speaker 2: At the same time, Bogie's good to go with Casablanca.

492
00:28:55,645 --> 00:28:59,085
Speaker 2: You know he's going to advance there. Carry Grant then

493
00:28:59,605 --> 00:29:02,565
Speaker 2: is going to potentially be out right with his girl Friday.

494
00:29:03,605 --> 00:29:08,925
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I think directs voters don't necessarily

495
00:29:09,005 --> 00:29:11,645
Speaker 1: think that way. I mean sometimes, yes, you know, we

496
00:29:11,685 --> 00:29:16,165
Speaker 1: do falling into predictions perhaps, but maybe some people will

497
00:29:16,165 --> 00:29:18,645
Speaker 1: think about in terms of what stars we're losing. I mean,

498
00:29:18,885 --> 00:29:22,685
Speaker 1: great stars are in this matchup for sure. The thing

499
00:29:22,765 --> 00:29:26,445
Speaker 1: for me between these two is, and I'll preface this

500
00:29:26,485 --> 00:29:28,525
Speaker 1: by saying that I love The Big Sleep. I also

501
00:29:28,565 --> 00:29:32,645
Speaker 1: would include it among those great Noirs. It always comes

502
00:29:32,645 --> 00:29:35,605
Speaker 1: with this massive caveat no one knows what the heck

503
00:29:35,685 --> 00:29:40,405
Speaker 1: is going on. It doesn't matter, and it doesn't matter truly.

504
00:29:40,725 --> 00:29:43,845
Speaker 1: Labyrinthine plots come with the territory with Noir, but this

505
00:29:44,165 --> 00:29:49,325
Speaker 1: is particularly convoluted, and it's just something that seems to

506
00:29:49,365 --> 00:29:52,245
Speaker 1: always be acknowledged, even in the greatest appreciations of The

507
00:29:52,245 --> 00:29:55,285
Speaker 1: Big Sleep. I don't know that that his girl Friday

508
00:29:55,325 --> 00:29:57,605
Speaker 1: has a flaw. I mean, I mean we you know,

509
00:29:57,605 --> 00:29:59,125
Speaker 1: we could talk about whether there is or is not

510
00:29:59,165 --> 00:30:02,765
Speaker 1: a perfect movie, but this is one that is clicking

511
00:30:02,805 --> 00:30:06,365
Speaker 1: on every single cylinder, maybe for me at least. That's

512
00:30:06,365 --> 00:30:08,925
Speaker 1: why I don't see this one as too tough to

513
00:30:09,805 --> 00:30:12,485
Speaker 1: choose or predict. But I could be wrong.

514
00:30:13,565 --> 00:30:16,045
Speaker 2: It's funny you say that, though, and I don't want

515
00:30:16,085 --> 00:30:18,565
Speaker 2: to digress into it because it's been years since I've

516
00:30:18,565 --> 00:30:20,925
Speaker 2: seen The Big Sleep and I don't want to clar

517
00:30:21,245 --> 00:30:23,765
Speaker 2: to know that text really well. But I truly don't

518
00:30:23,805 --> 00:30:26,765
Speaker 2: think of that, even Josh, as a flaw, because it's

519
00:30:26,765 --> 00:30:29,885
Speaker 2: one of those things where in the moment of the storytelling,

520
00:30:30,765 --> 00:30:33,005
Speaker 2: I'm not aware of it as a viewer. It's only

521
00:30:33,325 --> 00:30:36,245
Speaker 2: it's only after the fact, when you're unpacking it, do

522
00:30:36,285 --> 00:30:39,045
Speaker 2: you go, oh, that was never really resolved, that was

523
00:30:39,165 --> 00:30:42,965
Speaker 2: introduced and it didn't matter. So it feels like a

524
00:30:43,125 --> 00:30:48,285
Speaker 2: very minor, if at best, a flaw if as as

525
00:30:48,325 --> 00:30:51,845
Speaker 2: a storytelling element in the moment you're not questioning it

526
00:30:51,885 --> 00:30:55,605
Speaker 2: as a viewer, everything else about it is working so

527
00:30:55,805 --> 00:30:59,365
Speaker 2: completely that it truly doesn't matter. And for me, even

528
00:30:59,405 --> 00:31:01,125
Speaker 2: though his girl Friday and it does matter to me

529
00:31:01,165 --> 00:31:05,245
Speaker 2: that it's an all time journalism movie. I suppose Bogie

530
00:31:05,325 --> 00:31:08,445
Speaker 2: and Bacall and I think the Big Sleep of the

531
00:31:08,485 --> 00:31:12,485
Speaker 2: two is the more quintessential Hawks film, and on that

532
00:31:12,725 --> 00:31:16,365
Speaker 2: on those grounds, I'm going Big Sleep that would be

533
00:31:16,405 --> 00:31:16,965
Speaker 2: my stick.

534
00:31:17,285 --> 00:31:19,285
Speaker 1: There's a lot to distract you. There's a lot of

535
00:31:19,285 --> 00:31:21,965
Speaker 1: sexiness to distract you in the Big so that you

536
00:31:22,005 --> 00:31:24,645
Speaker 1: don't notice those those plots shoes, that's for sure.

537
00:31:24,725 --> 00:31:27,965
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, So I'm going with the upset, even though

538
00:31:28,845 --> 00:31:31,325
Speaker 2: I don't know that that's the way it's going to

539
00:31:31,405 --> 00:31:35,685
Speaker 2: play out. His girl Friday probably wins. But I'd pick

540
00:31:36,125 --> 00:31:39,005
Speaker 2: the ten seed if I could, if if that mattered.

541
00:31:39,325 --> 00:31:44,405
Speaker 2: Let's move on. We have two more matchups, Josh the

542
00:31:44,445 --> 00:31:49,645
Speaker 2: third seed, it's a wonderful life up against the best

543
00:31:50,005 --> 00:31:52,965
Speaker 2: years of our lives? Is is the best years of

544
00:31:52,965 --> 00:31:56,605
Speaker 2: our lives going to be our Cinderella? The fourteen seed?

545
00:31:56,805 --> 00:31:59,405
Speaker 2: Is that effectively going to be the Cinderella of our tournament?

546
00:32:00,005 --> 00:32:02,845
Speaker 1: Did I did? I say? I already used my I

547
00:32:02,885 --> 00:32:04,285
Speaker 1: don't want to pick now card.

548
00:32:04,645 --> 00:32:06,725
Speaker 2: Because I'll give you another one.

549
00:32:06,885 --> 00:32:11,005
Speaker 1: I should maybe have saved it for this. You know.

550
00:32:11,085 --> 00:32:15,965
Speaker 1: The catch here is again on first passing first thought,

551
00:32:16,085 --> 00:32:19,525
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I'm going to go with the grittier,

552
00:32:19,565 --> 00:32:21,925
Speaker 1: the best years of our lives, And then I always

553
00:32:21,965 --> 00:32:25,005
Speaker 1: do this with it's a wonderful life. I remember how

554
00:32:25,325 --> 00:32:31,565
Speaker 1: steeped in like depression and just grim reality. It's a

555
00:32:31,605 --> 00:32:34,765
Speaker 1: wonderful life is despite where it ends up and how

556
00:32:34,805 --> 00:32:37,365
Speaker 1: we maybe immediately think of it in our memory. I mean,

557
00:32:37,405 --> 00:32:40,685
Speaker 1: it's it's been described as a noir itself in some ways,

558
00:32:41,205 --> 00:32:43,285
Speaker 1: and I think that's I think you could make that case.

559
00:32:43,405 --> 00:32:48,765
Speaker 1: So these are closer in my mind, even in tone,

560
00:32:49,365 --> 00:32:51,365
Speaker 1: the more I think about it, which makes it more

561
00:32:51,405 --> 00:32:54,325
Speaker 1: difficult for me here, I'll use I'll use, you know,

562
00:32:54,405 --> 00:33:00,885
Speaker 1: the film spotting bump qualifier to maybe help me make

563
00:33:00,925 --> 00:33:02,805
Speaker 1: my choice. I do think of the best years of

564
00:33:02,845 --> 00:33:05,805
Speaker 1: our lives as more of a film spotting movie than

565
00:33:05,845 --> 00:33:10,925
Speaker 1: it's a wonderful life. So maybe that's how I'll I'll

566
00:33:10,965 --> 00:33:14,165
Speaker 1: feel better, I'll sleep better about voting for best years over.

567
00:33:14,765 --> 00:33:15,805
Speaker 1: It's a wonderful life.

568
00:33:16,085 --> 00:33:19,005
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's hard when you're talking about a film.

569
00:33:20,205 --> 00:33:21,885
Speaker 2: You know, it's one thing. You're talking about a movie

570
00:33:21,925 --> 00:33:24,525
Speaker 2: like Rebecca that you can trace back to a certain

571
00:33:24,565 --> 00:33:28,645
Speaker 2: point in your life and it means something to you perhaps,

572
00:33:28,685 --> 00:33:32,045
Speaker 2: But it's a wonderful life for so many of us,

573
00:33:32,045 --> 00:33:35,005
Speaker 2: certainly so many of us of a certain generation, sort

574
00:33:35,005 --> 00:33:37,165
Speaker 2: of like the Wizard of Oz when we only had

575
00:33:37,245 --> 00:33:39,885
Speaker 2: so many channels on TV. And yes, we are old

576
00:33:40,005 --> 00:33:42,845
Speaker 2: enough to have been at the tail end of that, right,

577
00:33:44,565 --> 00:33:47,685
Speaker 2: that was an event that was still an event to watch.

578
00:33:47,685 --> 00:33:49,925
Speaker 2: It's a wonderful life, and it meant something to my

579
00:33:50,045 --> 00:33:54,205
Speaker 2: dad when that came on television and he forced you

580
00:33:54,325 --> 00:33:57,325
Speaker 2: and you were reluctant at first to watch it, and

581
00:33:57,365 --> 00:33:59,805
Speaker 2: then of course you gave in and you look forward

582
00:33:59,885 --> 00:34:02,205
Speaker 2: to watching It's a wonderful life. So the thought of that,

583
00:34:02,845 --> 00:34:08,605
Speaker 2: of voting against it seems insane. And I was so

584
00:34:08,765 --> 00:34:12,165
Speaker 2: confident Josh about saying that I was going with the

585
00:34:12,165 --> 00:34:15,884
Speaker 2: best years of our lives. And then I remembered that

586
00:34:15,965 --> 00:34:18,805
Speaker 2: when you're having difficult choices like this, that we're supposed

587
00:34:18,805 --> 00:34:21,884
Speaker 2: to do in these madness circumstances is we're supposed to

588
00:34:22,005 --> 00:34:27,125
Speaker 2: apply the incinerator rules like it's it's lost. The one

589
00:34:27,125 --> 00:34:29,605
Speaker 2: you're voting against is lost to time forever. And it

590
00:34:29,725 --> 00:34:32,245
Speaker 2: hit me there it would it would almost be like

591
00:34:32,525 --> 00:34:38,005
Speaker 2: it's a wonderful life had never been born, and and

592
00:34:38,085 --> 00:34:42,645
Speaker 2: could I could I live with that? And despite all

593
00:34:42,685 --> 00:34:48,645
Speaker 2: of that, guess what, I'm still lives. I'm still If

594
00:34:48,645 --> 00:34:50,605
Speaker 2: you don't want to be responsible, I already had been,

595
00:34:50,925 --> 00:34:54,005
Speaker 2: I'll take you as hard as hard as it is.

596
00:34:55,005 --> 00:34:58,085
Speaker 2: I I just I, I do really think it's the

597
00:34:58,205 --> 00:35:01,125
Speaker 2: I think it's the better film, and and it means

598
00:35:01,205 --> 00:35:03,005
Speaker 2: more to me right now, at this point in my

599
00:35:03,085 --> 00:35:06,485
Speaker 2: life than it's a wonderful life. Does Maybe that that

600
00:35:06,605 --> 00:35:09,565
Speaker 2: tells me something? And what it's telling me is I'm do.

601
00:35:10,685 --> 00:35:13,805
Speaker 2: I'm dramatically due for a rewatch of It's a Wonderful Life.

602
00:35:13,805 --> 00:35:15,805
Speaker 2: But that's where I'm at right now.

603
00:35:16,685 --> 00:35:18,845
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a good point. If if you do

604
00:35:19,045 --> 00:35:25,125
Speaker 1: a sit down, concentrated, maybe just you viewing of It's

605
00:35:25,125 --> 00:35:29,325
Speaker 1: a Wonderful Life, like the film critic view right, never

606
00:35:29,365 --> 00:35:32,565
Speaker 1: done that it, Yeah, right, that would be different, and

607
00:35:32,605 --> 00:35:35,725
Speaker 1: you might notice and appreciate other things, and it would

608
00:35:35,805 --> 00:35:40,645
Speaker 1: just add to your genuine nostalgic and rightful appreciation for

609
00:35:40,805 --> 00:35:43,924
Speaker 1: the movie, and that might bump it over the top.

610
00:35:43,965 --> 00:35:46,365
Speaker 1: But for now, you and me, we're both throwing it

611
00:35:46,405 --> 00:35:47,165
Speaker 1: in the inciderator.

612
00:35:47,845 --> 00:35:52,285
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, red shoes. We don't need no stinking red shoes.

613
00:35:52,365 --> 00:35:56,445
Speaker 2: We'll see because we have the Archers, perhaps their greatest film,

614
00:35:57,045 --> 00:36:00,925
Speaker 2: The Red Shoes versus The Treasure of the Sierra Madre,

615
00:36:01,085 --> 00:36:05,205
Speaker 2: the Sixth Seed versus The Eleven Seed, Josh, easy one.

616
00:36:05,285 --> 00:36:07,205
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to know. I'm gonna have to do

617
00:36:07,285 --> 00:36:12,245
Speaker 1: some mental gyrations here as well, because on their faces

618
00:36:12,405 --> 00:36:17,525
Speaker 1: probably esteem both of these movies equally. So how do

619
00:36:17,565 --> 00:36:20,845
Speaker 1: I parse that? I'm gonna do what I say? I

620
00:36:21,045 --> 00:36:23,285
Speaker 1: It seems like most voters most listeners don't do and

621
00:36:23,765 --> 00:36:28,404
Speaker 1: look at who's left in the tournament in terms of filmmakers,

622
00:36:28,645 --> 00:36:32,805
Speaker 1: I do consider that. I think it's important as these

623
00:36:32,845 --> 00:36:37,965
Speaker 1: brackets are representative of an era and for me, Paulin Pressberger,

624
00:36:38,045 --> 00:36:41,845
Speaker 1: the Archers have to be on there at least for

625
00:36:41,965 --> 00:36:47,445
Speaker 1: one more round. Now, I actually have Black Narcissist as

626
00:36:47,445 --> 00:36:50,245
Speaker 1: my favorite of their films, so I can't vote for

627
00:36:50,285 --> 00:36:50,885
Speaker 1: that anymore.

628
00:36:51,645 --> 00:36:54,605
Speaker 2: I had a tough draw it. It went up against

629
00:36:54,645 --> 00:36:55,845
Speaker 2: Casa Blanca early.

630
00:36:56,085 --> 00:36:59,765
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know that would have been I would

631
00:36:59,805 --> 00:37:01,845
Speaker 1: have loved to have seen that continue to march on

632
00:37:02,485 --> 00:37:04,285
Speaker 1: Red Shoes. I think I probably of a second, So

633
00:37:05,085 --> 00:37:08,485
Speaker 1: that being the case, I want the Archers to be represented. Still,

634
00:37:08,885 --> 00:37:11,364
Speaker 1: it's enough reasoning for me to vote for it here.

635
00:37:11,405 --> 00:37:12,245
Speaker 1: But it's not easy.

636
00:37:12,885 --> 00:37:15,485
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I could say I'm going with the

637
00:37:15,485 --> 00:37:18,404
Speaker 2: Red Shoes because I want to see at least one

638
00:37:18,525 --> 00:37:22,525
Speaker 2: Archer's film continue in the tournament after having so many

639
00:37:22,565 --> 00:37:27,445
Speaker 2: good films bow out. But this isn't a tough choice

640
00:37:27,445 --> 00:37:30,845
Speaker 2: for me. And I really do like the Treasure of

641
00:37:30,845 --> 00:37:33,925
Speaker 2: the Sierra Madre quite a bit, but I love the

642
00:37:33,965 --> 00:37:37,565
Speaker 2: Red Shoes. And we've answered this question quite a bit

643
00:37:37,645 --> 00:37:40,165
Speaker 2: over the years when it's been posed to us or

644
00:37:40,205 --> 00:37:43,965
Speaker 2: it's just come up in conversation. The marathons that have

645
00:37:44,045 --> 00:37:47,165
Speaker 2: had the biggest impact on us, and I think we

646
00:37:47,165 --> 00:37:52,085
Speaker 2: we tend to go to similar answers. The Iranian Cinema

647
00:37:52,125 --> 00:37:54,884
Speaker 2: Marathon was a big one. Of course, the Statugate Ray

648
00:37:55,165 --> 00:37:58,765
Speaker 2: Marathon was a big one. These were largually influential, right

649
00:37:58,885 --> 00:38:01,884
Speaker 2: VARDA like those three? I think I think those three

650
00:38:01,965 --> 00:38:07,045
Speaker 2: for sure absolutely changed us and changed the way we

651
00:38:07,165 --> 00:38:09,805
Speaker 2: view films and changed the way we not only think

652
00:38:09,805 --> 00:38:14,445
Speaker 2: about film and talk about film, but regard cinema our

653
00:38:14,485 --> 00:38:18,325
Speaker 2: favorite films of all time. It complicated in the best

654
00:38:18,365 --> 00:38:22,125
Speaker 2: way that conversation. But before or you join the show,

655
00:38:22,405 --> 00:38:26,085
Speaker 2: if I'm recalling correctly, was when we had the Archers Marathon.

656
00:38:26,605 --> 00:38:30,685
Speaker 2: And I came to that not knowing a single Archers film,

657
00:38:32,085 --> 00:38:35,045
Speaker 2: and not even knowing that they were called the Archers.

658
00:38:35,405 --> 00:38:38,125
Speaker 2: I had heard of Powell and Presburger. I had seen

659
00:38:38,165 --> 00:38:41,205
Speaker 2: Michael Powell's Peeping Tom because I had to watch that

660
00:38:41,285 --> 00:38:44,165
Speaker 2: in film school, but I had not seen a Powell

661
00:38:44,445 --> 00:38:48,965
Speaker 2: and Presburger film, And so you can imagine how eye

662
00:38:49,045 --> 00:38:52,405
Speaker 2: opening that marathon was for me. And seeing a film

663
00:38:52,525 --> 00:38:56,125
Speaker 2: like the Red Shoes. That that for me, you know,

664
00:38:56,205 --> 00:39:00,565
Speaker 2: and having a mindset about that film a stupid, a

665
00:39:00,645 --> 00:39:04,645
Speaker 2: completely naive just just growing up. I think a chorus

666
00:39:04,685 --> 00:39:08,085
Speaker 2: line the famous Broadway musical, and then of course the

667
00:39:08,125 --> 00:39:11,245
Speaker 2: Michael Douglas you know, movie version of that, The Red

668
00:39:11,285 --> 00:39:14,565
Speaker 2: Shoes comes up in that right as the dancers talk

669
00:39:14,605 --> 00:39:17,125
Speaker 2: about it, and so I always just equated it as

670
00:39:17,165 --> 00:39:21,285
Speaker 2: this as this ballet movie, you know, and growing up up,

671
00:39:21,725 --> 00:39:24,525
Speaker 2: even as I got into film, not knowing anything about

672
00:39:24,565 --> 00:39:28,205
Speaker 2: the movie other than it's a ballet movie. Somehow, that

673
00:39:28,245 --> 00:39:32,525
Speaker 2: didn't particularly appeal to me, Josh. And so to watch

674
00:39:32,565 --> 00:39:38,845
Speaker 2: it and realize that it's about everything, almost everything I

675
00:39:38,925 --> 00:39:42,645
Speaker 2: care about in cinema and art, and made by these

676
00:39:43,165 --> 00:39:48,165
Speaker 2: incredible artists, it it blew me away, to say the least.

677
00:39:48,405 --> 00:39:52,565
Speaker 2: And it's it's an all timer for me. So it's

678
00:39:52,645 --> 00:39:56,325
Speaker 2: it certainly belongs for me in the top six of

679
00:39:56,365 --> 00:40:00,404
Speaker 2: this marathon, or of the of this tournament. And it's

680
00:40:00,445 --> 00:40:02,965
Speaker 2: an easy choice for me, ahead of, you know, most

681
00:40:03,005 --> 00:40:05,085
Speaker 2: films in this tournament, and certainly ahead of the Treasure

682
00:40:05,125 --> 00:40:09,325
Speaker 2: of the Sierra Madre. So that's that's why I'm going Archers.

683
00:40:08,885 --> 00:40:12,645
Speaker 1: All right. We'll see if the archers continue on to

684
00:40:12,725 --> 00:40:13,165
Speaker 1: the next roe.

685
00:40:13,245 --> 00:40:15,765
Speaker 2: We will, indeed, Now let's let's talk a little bit

686
00:40:15,765 --> 00:40:19,685
Speaker 2: about how the bracket prediction contest is playing out.

687
00:40:19,965 --> 00:40:22,085
Speaker 1: Oh boy, you may well.

688
00:40:22,085 --> 00:40:24,285
Speaker 2: We'll get to us in a second. We'll get to

689
00:40:24,325 --> 00:40:27,325
Speaker 2: the better news here first. You may remember last week

690
00:40:27,805 --> 00:40:30,565
Speaker 2: we had at least two people I can't remember if

691
00:40:30,565 --> 00:40:32,045
Speaker 2: there was a third or not, but there were at

692
00:40:32,125 --> 00:40:37,285
Speaker 2: least two Matthew Emery and Anthony Reich who were tied

693
00:40:37,325 --> 00:40:42,285
Speaker 2: for first place, and they remain tied for first place

694
00:40:42,645 --> 00:40:49,045
Speaker 2: all right after round rafts. They have perfect brackets, wosh.

695
00:40:49,285 --> 00:40:52,765
Speaker 2: And we heard from Anthony after round one this is

696
00:40:52,765 --> 00:40:55,605
Speaker 2: what he said, first place in film spotting madness, what

697
00:40:55,725 --> 00:40:58,845
Speaker 2: giddy heights. This needs to go on my CV. I

698
00:40:58,885 --> 00:41:01,605
Speaker 2: am hoping my run of good fortune continues. But seeing

699
00:41:01,605 --> 00:41:03,844
Speaker 2: as I just followed the seeding into the next round,

700
00:41:03,845 --> 00:41:07,565
Speaker 2: two turns out wise, sometimes because it was just the

701
00:41:07,565 --> 00:41:09,885
Speaker 2: film I preferred, and sometimes because I really did not

702
00:41:10,005 --> 00:41:12,805
Speaker 2: have much of an idea. So following your extensive research

703
00:41:13,045 --> 00:41:15,404
Speaker 2: and seting just seem like the sensible thing to do.

704
00:41:16,005 --> 00:41:18,125
Speaker 2: If it doesn't all go wrong, I know Sam and

705
00:41:18,165 --> 00:41:20,805
Speaker 2: Adam are to blame. I can live with that. Follow

706
00:41:20,805 --> 00:41:24,205
Speaker 2: your own advice and expertise. Gents. Thanks for all you do.

707
00:41:24,485 --> 00:41:28,685
Speaker 2: I love the madness of madness. It brings joy to March.

708
00:41:28,765 --> 00:41:30,965
Speaker 2: So I of course had to do a deep dive

709
00:41:31,045 --> 00:41:34,685
Speaker 2: on their brackets. And it's worth noting that Anthony and

710
00:41:34,845 --> 00:41:41,404
Speaker 2: Matthew did also follow the seeding for the final four

711
00:41:42,325 --> 00:41:46,085
Speaker 2: through the championship, so they both have they have Casablanca,

712
00:41:46,245 --> 00:41:49,364
Speaker 2: they have Citizen Kane, they have double Indemnity and It's

713
00:41:49,365 --> 00:41:54,005
Speaker 2: a wonderful life. And they both have Casablanca defeating the

714
00:41:54,045 --> 00:41:58,485
Speaker 2: one seed, yes, defeating Citizen Kane the two seed in

715
00:41:58,525 --> 00:42:03,325
Speaker 2: the final. But there is one notable difference. And here's

716
00:42:03,365 --> 00:42:05,805
Speaker 2: the thing. I put this in the notes earlier today

717
00:42:05,805 --> 00:42:08,205
Speaker 2: that it will decide it, but I didn't fully reckon

718
00:42:08,245 --> 00:42:11,365
Speaker 2: with the fact that there still could be a tie.

719
00:42:11,645 --> 00:42:16,645
Speaker 2: Because Anthony's bracket title is of all the film brackets

720
00:42:16,725 --> 00:42:18,565
Speaker 2: and all the towns in the world, so you know

721
00:42:18,605 --> 00:42:23,125
Speaker 2: where he's going right now. I think he'd admit freely

722
00:42:23,525 --> 00:42:27,725
Speaker 2: is not as clever, but it's revealing. Matthew's bracket title

723
00:42:27,805 --> 00:42:32,565
Speaker 2: is black and white and then in parentheses like chalk,

724
00:42:33,325 --> 00:42:36,245
Speaker 2: so what he's referring to there is Matthew just went

725
00:42:36,325 --> 00:42:41,085
Speaker 2: with the favorite for every single choice. He never picked

726
00:42:41,085 --> 00:42:45,365
Speaker 2: an upset in any round throughout the entire tournament. Anthony

727
00:42:45,565 --> 00:42:52,125
Speaker 2: actually deviated from that pattern and picked a few upsets

728
00:42:52,125 --> 00:42:55,565
Speaker 2: in this round coming up, the Sweet sixteen, and those

729
00:42:55,645 --> 00:42:59,005
Speaker 2: choices were and these are smart choices, These are very

730
00:42:59,005 --> 00:43:03,325
Speaker 2: strategic choices. Like we just talked about, he picked the

731
00:43:03,405 --> 00:43:06,445
Speaker 2: number eleven treasure this year and Madre over the number

732
00:43:06,445 --> 00:43:09,245
Speaker 2: six red shoes. I think that's got a chance, Josh,

733
00:43:09,245 --> 00:43:10,005
Speaker 2: don't you sure?

734
00:43:10,445 --> 00:43:10,885
Speaker 1: Yeah?

735
00:43:10,885 --> 00:43:14,404
Speaker 2: And then even better, I think I called this one.

736
00:43:14,445 --> 00:43:17,725
Speaker 2: In fact, I think I think this could be the

737
00:43:17,805 --> 00:43:20,765
Speaker 2: for sure upset that we get number nine brief and

738
00:43:21,685 --> 00:43:23,405
Speaker 2: over number eight bicycle thieves.

739
00:43:23,845 --> 00:43:27,125
Speaker 1: So so they'll have to step Yeah, these they'll have

740
00:43:27,165 --> 00:43:29,525
Speaker 1: to separate themselves right after this round.

741
00:43:29,725 --> 00:43:34,325
Speaker 2: Right, except what happens if only one of those two happens,

742
00:43:34,845 --> 00:43:40,444
Speaker 2: then they both only have one incorrect, So they they

743
00:43:40,485 --> 00:43:44,805
Speaker 2: each only have one incorrect, there's no tiebreaker, they each

744
00:43:44,885 --> 00:43:49,925
Speaker 2: only have one wrong. So as of this recording, I

745
00:43:50,045 --> 00:43:53,765
Speaker 2: did send both of them a note and I said,

746
00:43:54,245 --> 00:43:57,725
Speaker 2: since it could end up being a tiebreaker, who is

747
00:43:57,765 --> 00:44:01,485
Speaker 2: your third round choice? If it does play out to

748
00:44:01,525 --> 00:44:04,965
Speaker 2: be double indemnity versus it's a wonderful life. And of

749
00:44:05,005 --> 00:44:07,245
Speaker 2: course they both could end up picking the same choice

750
00:44:07,245 --> 00:44:09,205
Speaker 2: and that's not a tiebreaker, and we may just have

751
00:44:09,285 --> 00:44:12,525
Speaker 2: to call it. We have co winners, right, But now

752
00:44:12,605 --> 00:44:15,445
Speaker 2: I've heard, I know, I know we'll keep right.

753
00:44:15,685 --> 00:44:18,245
Speaker 1: We've talked about, you know, when do we jump into

754
00:44:18,285 --> 00:44:20,885
Speaker 1: YouTube live. I think this is the time for an

755
00:44:21,205 --> 00:44:26,365
Speaker 1: an arm wrestling decision for a film Spotty Madness Champion,

756
00:44:26,645 --> 00:44:29,844
Speaker 1: and we'll just we'll just have Matthew and Anthony roll

757
00:44:29,925 --> 00:44:32,565
Speaker 1: up the sleeves, get on camera and arm wrestle.

758
00:44:33,805 --> 00:44:36,885
Speaker 2: Or is it time for quiz master Thomas Todd in

759
00:44:36,965 --> 00:44:39,405
Speaker 2: nineteen forties movie trivia or something.

760
00:44:39,885 --> 00:44:42,725
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I love Thomas, not as fun.

761
00:44:43,085 --> 00:44:45,805
Speaker 1: I mean, unless Thomas is going to judge the arm wrestling.

762
00:44:45,885 --> 00:44:48,765
Speaker 2: I think you know he would do that. He'd be

763
00:44:48,765 --> 00:44:52,405
Speaker 2: able to do that, he would absolutely do it. We'll see,

764
00:44:52,525 --> 00:44:54,605
Speaker 2: we'll see where it goes, and we'll see what those

765
00:44:54,645 --> 00:44:56,965
Speaker 2: answers are if they if they do, in fact, go

766
00:44:57,045 --> 00:45:00,165
Speaker 2: with the same tiebreaker. But and we'll see, in fact,

767
00:45:00,205 --> 00:45:04,725
Speaker 2: if it matters, because who knows, maybe maybe one of

768
00:45:04,725 --> 00:45:07,925
Speaker 2: them gets both of these matchups correct. I don't know

769
00:45:07,965 --> 00:45:10,605
Speaker 2: where the voting stands on either of those, but that

770
00:45:10,765 --> 00:45:11,885
Speaker 2: is the one departure.

771
00:45:12,285 --> 00:45:15,165
Speaker 1: So I do basically what you're telling me, Adam is

772
00:45:15,245 --> 00:45:17,485
Speaker 1: it's too late for me to upset both of them, and.

773
00:45:18,085 --> 00:45:21,965
Speaker 2: Yes, take them down. Yeah that's not that's not now.

774
00:45:22,125 --> 00:45:22,364
Speaker 1: Okay.

775
00:45:22,725 --> 00:45:26,885
Speaker 2: I just got this just about an hour before recording, thankfully,

776
00:45:26,925 --> 00:45:28,965
Speaker 2: because I love it so much, and I didn't even

777
00:45:28,965 --> 00:45:30,565
Speaker 2: want to put it in the notes because I didn't

778
00:45:30,605 --> 00:45:32,085
Speaker 2: want you to see it. I wanted to get your

779
00:45:32,085 --> 00:45:35,924
Speaker 2: reaction to this in real time. We heard from Anthony Well,

780
00:45:36,005 --> 00:45:41,285
Speaker 2: we also heard from Matthew Emery and I mentioned to him,

781
00:45:41,285 --> 00:45:44,605
Speaker 2: you know how you took this all chalk, all top

782
00:45:44,645 --> 00:45:47,965
Speaker 2: seed approach. I can't wait to hear. I can't wait

783
00:45:48,005 --> 00:45:51,605
Speaker 2: to hear how you respond to Matthew, who who clearly

784
00:45:51,725 --> 00:45:58,285
Speaker 2: is is a listener after my own heart. He said this, absolutely,

785
00:45:58,605 --> 00:46:02,285
Speaker 2: your seeds were too good. I'm a numbers guy, so

786
00:46:02,405 --> 00:46:05,085
Speaker 2: I collected a ton of data about all the movies

787
00:46:05,125 --> 00:46:13,405
Speaker 2: in this tournament letterbox score, IMDb votes, and rating, director, genre,

788
00:46:14,165 --> 00:46:16,645
Speaker 2: English audio. I don't know what he's saying about film

789
00:46:16,685 --> 00:46:19,725
Speaker 2: spotting listeners there if it's been featured on the show.

790
00:46:20,565 --> 00:46:25,285
Speaker 2: Nothing I added to the model. How is your model, Josh,

791
00:46:25,765 --> 00:46:29,125
Speaker 2: go on, just go on. Nothing I added to the

792
00:46:29,165 --> 00:46:32,645
Speaker 2: model improved it enough to pick against a seed. I

793
00:46:32,685 --> 00:46:35,325
Speaker 2: think this is for two reasons. You and Sam take

794
00:46:35,365 --> 00:46:38,845
Speaker 2: into account all the things I mentioned above. Upsets truly

795
00:46:38,885 --> 00:46:42,645
Speaker 2: are upsets. Your seeds didn't have any systematic weaknesses I

796
00:46:42,645 --> 00:46:45,165
Speaker 2: could exploit. We are we're kind of like the Terminator,

797
00:46:45,205 --> 00:46:47,565
Speaker 2: like the T one thousand. I think, while I have you,

798
00:46:48,085 --> 00:46:50,245
Speaker 2: I just wanted to thank you for running the tournament again.

799
00:46:50,285 --> 00:46:52,445
Speaker 2: You got me to watch the new favorites like Late Spring,

800
00:46:52,565 --> 00:46:55,565
Speaker 2: my Darling Clementine and I Know where I'm going Another

801
00:46:55,725 --> 00:46:57,205
Speaker 2: Archers movie.

802
00:46:57,445 --> 00:46:58,045
Speaker 1: They good one.

803
00:46:58,085 --> 00:47:02,405
Speaker 2: So we're talking weaknesses, systematic weaknesses, models, all of the

804
00:47:02,445 --> 00:47:06,725
Speaker 2: different factors he's throwing into the algorithm. Josh, it's just

805
00:47:06,765 --> 00:47:09,125
Speaker 2: it's it's my love language. I think.

806
00:47:10,045 --> 00:47:12,765
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think Netflix killed cinema. I think

807
00:47:12,805 --> 00:47:14,165
Speaker 1: Matthew did well.

808
00:47:14,205 --> 00:47:18,045
Speaker 2: I'm with him. We're together, We're in the boat going

809
00:47:18,125 --> 00:47:23,765
Speaker 2: down with the movies. Thank you, Matthew. Thank you Matthew

810
00:47:23,885 --> 00:47:28,525
Speaker 2: for that fun and getting to watch Josh react in

811
00:47:28,565 --> 00:47:31,965
Speaker 2: real time to that makes that was all worth it.

812
00:47:32,725 --> 00:47:35,725
Speaker 2: We'll see how that plays out. It will be a

813
00:47:36,485 --> 00:47:41,285
Speaker 2: it will be a Matthew Emery or Anthony Reich champion,

814
00:47:42,245 --> 00:47:44,005
Speaker 2: or it will be a tie unless we come up

815
00:47:44,045 --> 00:47:46,685
Speaker 2: with something clever like Josh wants to sell tickets to

816
00:47:46,725 --> 00:47:53,525
Speaker 2: a wrestling match. Hey, okay. As for the internal contest,

817
00:47:53,765 --> 00:47:57,165
Speaker 2: the two of US Producer Sam Madness Godfather Mike Marrigan

818
00:47:57,805 --> 00:48:01,365
Speaker 2: in Dover, New Hampshire. Last week, I was one hundred

819
00:48:01,405 --> 00:48:04,045
Speaker 2: and first. I missed three. That's one hundred and first

820
00:48:04,085 --> 00:48:06,645
Speaker 2: obviously out of the entire tournament. This week, I'm still

821
00:48:06,685 --> 00:48:09,005
Speaker 2: in the lead between the four of us. I moved

822
00:48:09,045 --> 00:48:13,365
Speaker 2: up to fifty fourth. I only missed one in the

823
00:48:13,405 --> 00:48:17,805
Speaker 2: Sweet sixteen Fantasia from round one. You know, I knew,

824
00:48:17,885 --> 00:48:20,765
Speaker 2: I knew I had that crossed off, So that's the one.

825
00:48:20,805 --> 00:48:26,365
Speaker 2: I'm Mike Marrigan. He was one hundred and twentieth this week,

826
00:48:26,525 --> 00:48:29,125
Speaker 2: still in second, but he moved up to eighty first.

827
00:48:29,725 --> 00:48:32,925
Speaker 2: He also missed one. The Great Dictator was the one

828
00:48:32,965 --> 00:48:35,845
Speaker 2: he lost that that went down sixty nine to thirty

829
00:48:35,885 --> 00:48:41,285
Speaker 2: one to Treasure of the Sierra Madre Sam. Last week

830
00:48:41,325 --> 00:48:43,765
Speaker 2: he was one hundred and eighty first. This week he's

831
00:48:43,765 --> 00:48:46,085
Speaker 2: still in third place in our tournament, but he's up

832
00:48:46,165 --> 00:48:50,445
Speaker 2: to one hundred and eighteenth. He lost one. It was

833
00:48:50,485 --> 00:48:51,205
Speaker 2: Mildred Pierce.

834
00:48:51,685 --> 00:48:53,525
Speaker 1: Okay, Now I.

835
00:48:53,485 --> 00:48:58,725
Speaker 2: Love yet in this crazy chaotic world. I love that

836
00:48:58,765 --> 00:49:01,245
Speaker 2: there's at least there's It's not a constant, but I

837
00:49:01,285 --> 00:49:04,685
Speaker 2: love that we're at least we're getting back to basics.

838
00:49:04,725 --> 00:49:07,205
Speaker 2: Like we're at least getting back to a world where

839
00:49:07,205 --> 00:49:11,645
Speaker 2: I can count on Josh being bad at film spotting

840
00:49:11,645 --> 00:49:15,364
Speaker 2: madness like it's supposed to be. He had a few anomalies.

841
00:49:16,045 --> 00:49:19,205
Speaker 2: It messed with my head. Now we're getting back to

842
00:49:19,245 --> 00:49:20,965
Speaker 2: the way it should know what our had to head

843
00:49:21,045 --> 00:49:23,645
Speaker 2: record is. But I'm sure somebody with no life could

844
00:49:23,685 --> 00:49:27,325
Speaker 2: put a chart together on that. Matthew, where are you

845
00:49:27,365 --> 00:49:30,925
Speaker 2: help me? Last week you were two hundred and second.

846
00:49:31,365 --> 00:49:33,765
Speaker 2: This week you're still in fourth. You have dropped to

847
00:49:34,245 --> 00:49:35,645
Speaker 2: two hundred and sixtieth.

848
00:49:36,325 --> 00:49:38,605
Speaker 1: Hey, there's still Our goal was to stay in the

849
00:49:38,645 --> 00:49:42,525
Speaker 1: two hundreds. So I'm sitting.

850
00:49:42,245 --> 00:49:44,485
Speaker 2: Pretty I was going to say, there are at least

851
00:49:44,525 --> 00:49:47,245
Speaker 2: like two hundred people doing worse than you. You could

852
00:49:47,245 --> 00:49:50,285
Speaker 2: look at it that way. I'll take so that you

853
00:49:50,405 --> 00:49:53,884
Speaker 2: had Sullivan's Travels over Notorious, you had Life and Death

854
00:49:53,925 --> 00:49:57,685
Speaker 2: over Philadelphia, you had Spellbound, which Spellbound didn't make it

855
00:49:57,725 --> 00:50:01,045
Speaker 2: past the big sleep last round. And yes, you also

856
00:50:01,205 --> 00:50:05,285
Speaker 2: thought Mildred Pierce. Yeah, so you should have struggled a

857
00:50:05,285 --> 00:50:09,765
Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah, you struggled on Mildred Pierce. Now, what's

858
00:50:09,805 --> 00:50:12,925
Speaker 2: going to be interesting about how it plays out from

859
00:50:12,965 --> 00:50:15,845
Speaker 2: here for us? I don't know how different our Sweet

860
00:50:15,885 --> 00:50:19,325
Speaker 2: sixteen matchups are. I didn't dig in that much. But

861
00:50:19,365 --> 00:50:22,805
Speaker 2: here's what I know. You, me and Sam all have

862
00:50:22,925 --> 00:50:26,325
Speaker 2: the same final four, which is pretty much the top

863
00:50:26,445 --> 00:50:30,925
Speaker 2: the top four seeds. Mike Marrigan went against the grain

864
00:50:30,965 --> 00:50:35,365
Speaker 2: a little bit. He has the third man upsetting double

865
00:50:35,405 --> 00:50:41,085
Speaker 2: indemnity and making him to the final four. So oh wowkay,

866
00:50:41,285 --> 00:50:46,205
Speaker 2: obviously that could be the decider. But just like last year,

867
00:50:47,045 --> 00:50:49,765
Speaker 2: and this ended up hurting me. I don't know if

868
00:50:49,805 --> 00:50:52,844
Speaker 2: you recall this, but I decided to be bold and

869
00:50:53,045 --> 00:50:56,005
Speaker 2: I shot my shot and I said, I know that

870
00:50:56,205 --> 00:50:59,125
Speaker 2: it's going to come down to Mulholland Drive and there

871
00:50:59,165 --> 00:51:02,085
Speaker 2: will be blood, and I figure everyone's going to pick.

872
00:51:02,125 --> 00:51:04,484
Speaker 2: There will be blood, and I actually think Mulholland Drive

873
00:51:04,525 --> 00:51:06,965
Speaker 2: has a chance. And not only that, if I'm going

874
00:51:07,005 --> 00:51:11,404
Speaker 2: to separate myself, I should pick Mulholland Drive. I'll win well,

875
00:51:11,525 --> 00:51:16,245
Speaker 2: mulhalland Drive lost and I lost. So this year, I thought,

876
00:51:17,165 --> 00:51:20,765
Speaker 2: I think people are going to pick Casablanca. I understand

877
00:51:20,805 --> 00:51:25,125
Speaker 2: why that's the popular choice going Heart Overhead, but I

878
00:51:25,125 --> 00:51:27,805
Speaker 2: think at the end of the day, more film spotting

879
00:51:27,845 --> 00:51:32,605
Speaker 2: listeners just realized that the the eight hundred pound gorilla

880
00:51:32,645 --> 00:51:37,525
Speaker 2: that is Citizen Kane is the choice, and Citizen Kane

881
00:51:37,605 --> 00:51:40,925
Speaker 2: is going to beat Casablanca. And I'm going to separate

882
00:51:41,005 --> 00:51:43,325
Speaker 2: myself from Josh and Sam and Mike Merrigan and I'm

883
00:51:43,365 --> 00:51:45,245
Speaker 2: going to pick Citizen Kane. And that's what I did.

884
00:51:45,285 --> 00:51:47,765
Speaker 2: So once again, I'm the only one who picked differently

885
00:51:47,805 --> 00:51:48,565
Speaker 2: for the champion.

886
00:51:49,125 --> 00:51:53,005
Speaker 1: That's interesting because I thought I was an I've seen

887
00:51:53,045 --> 00:51:55,565
Speaker 1: some of the bracket predictions coming by. I thought I

888
00:51:55,645 --> 00:51:58,165
Speaker 1: was the only one zagging by going Casablanca. But it

889
00:51:58,205 --> 00:52:00,605
Speaker 1: looks like a lot of people, Yes, a lot of

890
00:52:00,605 --> 00:52:04,405
Speaker 1: people went that predictive route. So I think, you know,

891
00:52:04,645 --> 00:52:08,525
Speaker 1: as as chalk as this has been, I think we

892
00:52:08,645 --> 00:52:13,645
Speaker 1: are heading to a thrilling finale here that's going to

893
00:52:13,725 --> 00:52:18,525
Speaker 1: be tight and revealing. And yeah, I just feel like

894
00:52:18,565 --> 00:52:20,605
Speaker 1: I heard that I'm still in the race essentially.

895
00:52:21,005 --> 00:52:25,885
Speaker 2: Oh you, I mean, sure, you certainly are, because I

896
00:52:26,365 --> 00:52:30,245
Speaker 2: could lose, and there's no doubt about that. Casablanca absolutely

897
00:52:30,285 --> 00:52:32,245
Speaker 2: could take this and could take it by a lot.

898
00:52:33,165 --> 00:52:36,085
Speaker 2: That that matchup is still ahead, isn't it, Josh? If

899
00:52:36,125 --> 00:52:38,205
Speaker 2: it does come down to the one versus the two,

900
00:52:38,565 --> 00:52:41,725
Speaker 2: we will see. Sweet sixteen poles are open now. They

901
00:52:41,725 --> 00:52:45,085
Speaker 2: close at eleven fifty nine pm Central Time Monday, April sixth,

902
00:52:45,565 --> 00:52:49,165
Speaker 2: and the Elite eight poles will open on Tuesday the

903
00:52:49,205 --> 00:52:53,405
Speaker 2: seventh at noon. All of this information is available film

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Speaker 2: Spotting Madness dot com. That is our show for this week, Josh.

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Speaker 1: More information is available at wbez dot org. For film Spotting,

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Larson.

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Speaker 2: And I'm Adam Kempinar, Thanks for listening. This conversation can

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